EP 74: The Discipline of Discomfort

Summary

Podcast Summary: EP 74 – The Discipline of Discomfort

Podcast Information

• Title: In Totality with Megan Ashley
• Host/Author: Megan Ashley
• Episode: EP 74: The Discipline of Discomfort
• Release Date: June 10, 2025
• Description: In this episode, Megan Ashley and her sister delve deep into the challenges of maintaining spiritual discipline in an age dominated by convenience. They explore how the pursuit of ease can hinder one's spiritual growth, emphasizing the importance of dependence on God, personal accountability, and the necessity of stepping out of comfort zones to live a life fully devoted to Him.

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode begins with Megan Ashley introducing her special guest—her sister Haley. Megan emphasizes the importance of selecting guests who can authentically contribute to discussions about living a life wholly devoted to God.

Notable Quote:

Megan [02:37]: "You have to wait to see who it is, but I really think you'll enjoy it."

2. The Culture of Convenience vs. Spiritual Discipline

Megan and Haley discuss how modern society's emphasis on convenience can undermine spiritual discipline. They highlight the ease of accessing services and products versus the intentional effort required in spiritual practices like prayer and fasting.

Notable Quote:

Haley [28:26]: "Ordering things online is convenient, but how do we expect our spiritual lives to be the same?"

3. The Importance of Dependence on God

The conversation shifts to the necessity of genuine dependence on God. Megan shares her realization that merely functioning in daily life doesn't equate to true spiritual vitality. Instead, she emphasizes surrendering one's life completely to God.

Notable Quote:

Megan [13:30]: "Dependency is being able to humble yourself before God."

4. Personal Story: Megan's Illness and Spiritual Dependence

Megan recounts a personal experience of severe illness while in Dubai, which became a pivotal moment in understanding her reliance on God. This period of vulnerability led her to recognize gaps in her spiritual discipline and dependence.

Notable Quote:

Megan [12:23]: "That time of being sick challenged me on my dependency on God."

5. Dangers of Over-Reliance on Platforms Over Intimate Faith Practices

They caution against substituting personal spiritual disciplines with convenient alternatives like attending conferences or relying solely on digital platforms. The hosts argue that true spiritual growth requires active and often uncomfortable engagement with one's faith.

Notable Quote:

Haley [27:29]: "We have to deprogram ourselves from conveniences because we live in an era of just being convenient."

6. The Cost of Convenience in Spiritual Life

Megan and Haley delve into the long-term repercussions of choosing convenience over spiritual diligence. They illustrate how short-term ease can lead to long-term spiritual deficits, using metaphors like unhealthy fast food choices that seem good initially but cause harm later.

Notable Quote:

Haley [28:45]: "Just because McDonald's is convenient doesn't mean it's healthy for you."

7. Discipleship and Accountability in a Convenient World

The sisters emphasize the importance of accountability and honest discipleship. They discuss the necessity of providing truthful feedback and correction within Christian friendships, even when it's inconvenient or uncomfortable.

Notable Quote:

Megan [37:35]: "When you're a listening friend and you're not actually giving conviction and correction, you're doing them a disservice."

8. Emotional Regulation and Self-Control

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on managing emotions and maintaining self-control in the face of convenience-driven temptations. They advocate for emotional discipline as a cornerstone of spiritual growth.

Notable Quote:

Haley [33:39]: "You have emotions, but don't let emotions have you."

9. Standards of Leadership within the Body of Christ

Megan expresses concern over the declining standards of Christian leadership, highlighting how leaders compromising their integrity for convenience can negatively influence the broader church community.

Notable Quote:

Megan [46:07]: "There's an increase of people's losing their sanity because we're allowing convenience to infiltrate our standards."

10. Reality of Spiritual Warfare and Judgment Day

The conversation intensifies as they discuss the realities of spiritual warfare and the impending Judgment Day. Megan warns against the dangers of spiritual complacency and the importance of being prepared through disciplined faith.

Notable Quote:

Haley [63:50]: "If you have a part-time prayer life, the devil is playing full-time."

11. Conclusion and Call to Action

In their closing remarks, Megan and Haley urge listeners to evaluate their own lives for areas where convenience has taken precedence over spiritual discipline. They encourage adopting practices that may be inconvenient but are essential for deepening one's relationship with God.

Notable Quote:

Haley [79:26]: "If there's any time to be more serious, to be more consecrated, to give more to Him, it's now."

12. Journal Prompt

To engage listeners actively, the episode concludes with a journal prompt:

Journal Prompt: What more is God requiring, and what's keeping you from giving it?

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Final Thoughts EP 74 of "In Totality with Megan Ashley" serves as a poignant reminder of the challenges posed by a convenience-driven culture on spiritual discipline. Through heartfelt dialogue and personal anecdotes, Megan and Haley encourage listeners to prioritize spiritual growth over ease, fostering a deeper and more dependent relationship with God.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

What's up, you guys? Listen, this week on In Totality, we are having an amazing conversation with my friend. I don't want to spoil who it is yet, but she's my good friend, and we are talking about convenience. Is your life of convenience hindering your spiritual life of discipline? We're going to get into all the things. But listen, you're going. This one might sting a little bit, but it's good. It's going to be good for you. And, yeah, the conversation is great. And you're about to tune in to another great conversation with my special guest. You'll have to wait to see who it is, but I really think you'll enjoy it. Make sure you send this to a friend. Send it to a family member, somebody that you think after you watch it, somebody you think would be. It would benefit them to listen to this episode. So send it. Send it to them, but just put your seat belt on. Okay? It's okay. Take a deep breath. Don't be offended. It's going to be good for you. All right. Check out this episode. What's up, you guys? Welcome back to another episode of In Totality. I am your host, Megan Ashley. I'm so grateful that you are joining me again for another episode. If this is your first time. Welcome. Welcome to season two. Welcome to this podcast. Welcome to a conversation where I will yet again be glorifying the Lord and lifting him up and. And begging you to take your faith and your walk with him serious. This is what this. This podcast is all about. Loving the Lord, in totality. And so I'm so grateful that you decided to join. And today I have another special guest. As you guys know, I'm trying to be. Not even trying to be. I feel like it' important. And the Lord specifically wanted me to be mindful about the guests that I bring onto the podcast. And so, yeah, I'm really selective. And there are some guests that you might see for the first time, and then there are some guests that I'm having back because there are a lot of people that I am going to entrust this platform with. And one of the people that are back today is my sister. I love her. She is my friend. She is just such a blessing to my life. And she is back for another episode, so welcome. Haley, Megan. Hi, sis.

[A]

Hey, sis.

[B]

How are you? Was that your American accent?

[A]

Am I being judged?

[B]

Yes, I'm judging you.

[A]

It was, yeah. Like, hey, sis, isn't it? Do you have a British accent, then?

[B]

No, because, you know, mine is terrible. Every time I do a British accent, I sound like, what do we say, Jeff? Pepe Le Pew.

[A]

That's what I. Pepe Le Pew. Where'd you get that from?

[B]

You don't remember Pepe Le Pew?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. The skunk on Looney Tunes. Y' all didn't watch Looney Tunes?

[A]

I watched Looney Tunes.

[B]

Okay. Wasn't it Looney Tunes? Yeah, it was Looney Tunes. He was the skunk that had, like, a really. Well, it was like a French accent. It wasn't even like.

[A]

Yeah, so it wasn't.

[B]

It was okay, but still, y' all a train ride away. Golly.

[A]

You know, when you was in London, you went to. You went to Paris. You were like, yep, sis, I'm going, Bahar. I was like, enjoy that. The Eiffel Tower. You guys had a time, though.

[B]

We did. I felt at the Eiffel Tower.

[A]

It was great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

How are you?

[A]

I'm good. I'm good.

[B]

Thanks for coming back.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, of course. When Megan calls, you answer, so. No, it was. It's an honor. And I. I love. I just get. I'm just proud every time I see you.

[B]

A. Thanks.

[A]

I feel like, you know, the growth and I just can't hold back. I'll just literally, like. I was watching you, like, interview, and I'm just seeing you, and I'm just behind the scenes. I'm just like. Like, God, you're just so faithful. Because it literally is. It's God's grace, you know? And I'm just happy that, you know, you're. You know. I don't know, man. I'm just happy. I'm just proud of you.

[B]

I appreciate it. I really do. And I. I can't. Every time I see you, I'm just, like, always reminded of, like, that's. You know that scripture that says, a friend sit closer. No, not friends sit closer. But there's. There's a scripture that talks about but a. But a brother is born for adversity or something like that, or a friend for adversity. I don't know. But I always think about you when I. When I hear that scripture, because there was so much going on in my life, and, you know, you didn't have to be a faithful friend, and you always were a faithful friend. Like, you always, like, in the Midst of all the chaos, you were just a faithful friend. And you've always been consistent, whether it's encouragement, whether it's even hard things that, like, asis, I need you to watch that or be mindful of that or, hey, you know, whatever. Like, you've just been a faithful friend.

[A]

It's an. It's an honor, I think. I get to see Megan. They get to see Meghan Ashley. I get to see Meghan, though. I get to see your heart. Like, I get to hear your banter. Even when I was in London, like, I was thinking about the jokes, the conversations. You were really making me laugh like this. Just. Just. I have the option. I have the opportunity. Sorry, should I say, of having intimacy with you. And it's like getting to know your heart and being able to have access to intimacy is always a privilege. Because I think a lot of the times, especially for anybody that has platform, people forget that there's human beings behind platform.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Especially in. In a country like America. I mean, you guys are like Americans. I mean, British people. Don't get me wrong. Like, we're not that way any different. But I feel like, genuinely, like, you guys are literally, it's an entertainment country. Like, literally, you guys are built on entertainment. It's kind of like, oh, I don't care how they feel as long as they're entertaining me. Who cares what they've been through? Like, I'm not that type of person. And I feel like my heart always for you will always be like, how is Megan? Like, even if, you know, you come and take a pause at a sabbatical, there was even a time, and you're just kind of like, sis, I'm taking a pause right now, and I'm just like, okay, cool. I'm praying for you. Yeah, like, because my. My. Like, there's some people who are kind of like, only showing up when you have the mic or when you have the camera. And I just never. I. I never want that for myself, so I would never do that for anyone else in my life.

[B]

Like, yeah, for sure.

[A]

And it's sad because I feel like that is the era that I think a lot of people are kind of in. It's kind of like if the mic isn't on, you don't know who your friends are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, if the camera isn't on, you don't know who your people are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we're in this hyper visibility kind of era, and people generally feel like the only way for them to be loved is if there's a camera in front of them. Like, in front of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's a very scary place to be.

[B]

Yeah. I just appreciate you. And I appreciate. I think it's really important that we have people in our lives that are pointing us back to The Lord.

[A]

Yeah. 110.

[B]

Do you know what I'm saying? It's like for you to be a business owner, me to be a business owner, you know, having, you know, stuff like, it's never like, yo, you go get the money. Make sure you get the money. Make sure, you know. Yes. Make sure your business is in order. Make sure you're stewarding yourself. Right. But you're always like, what is the Lord saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is God saying? This is what I prayed for. This is what I feel like the Lord is showing me. And I love, I love that about having kingdom godly friendships. Like, it just makes sense. It's. And it makes such a difference in how you are experience the context of life. You know what I'm saying? When you have people in your life that's constantly pointing you back to the Lord, you know what I'm saying? And not even making it like, super spiritual, but just like, yo, like what? Like, you know, what do you think God is saying about that? You know?

[A]

You know, I think that. I think it's interesting though, even the fact that you say not making it super spiritual. I low key feel like we do need to be. I'd rather be over spiritual than under spiritual.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

Because this realm is a. The spiritual is a real thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think a lot of times we can be very blase, very passive and just be like, oh, it's not that deep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, there's even certain things where, like, I want to forget. Even my, like my husband, like when we've been in Dubai, like, I'm. Okay, listen, I'm gonna put my hands up. I don't always pray before I eat my food.

[B]

For sure. I don't. I need to.

[A]

I. I know I need to, but I don't always do it because sometimes I generally forget for sure.

[B]

Because I'm hungry.

[A]

I'm hungry.

[B]

So I'm hungry.

[A]

So it's like I would dip a chip and I'll be like, oh, okay. And now I can't even say it properly. And there was a time when we was in Dubai, and obviously Dubai is, you know, it's a Muslim country, but you are allowed to express your faith. Just not. You're not just not allowed to evangelize on the streets and stuff. Like that. But you. You know, everybody can be whatever religion they want to be. So it's one of those places where you kind of have. You have religious freedom. And my husband would pray over every meal, so he was very religious about it. So I wouldn't necessarily see in the uk, but in Dubai, he's very religious about it. And I'll be like, okay, babe. Like, why is it that you're praying over this food? And he'll just kind of like. Because there was somebody else that prayed over this food before I did. Like, Muslims take it seriously to pray over their food, the meat. But we won't. Yeah, I got convicted. I was like, oh, wow. So every six time on the back, I'm like. And it's just that. That just being mindful, that mindfulness and that reminder of, like, listen, if they can do it, like, we. If we're really trusting that showing, like, believing that our faith is really what we believe in, why can't we do it, too?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I got convicted. Like, just those little things in terms of, like, just praying over food. And I still. God is still helping me there. Ja. But, yeah, like, yeah, it's important. Yeah, it's important.

[B]

I just. Yeah, I think in general, like, just in general, just to be mindful of the Lord.

[A]

Oh, that's. That's. That is where I'm at. Like, I was literally. I remember even texting you when I was in Dubai because I got quite ill right, earlier this year, and I had a really bad infection. So literally my sinuses all blocked with, like, mucus. And then, like, my tonsils were, like, really swollen. Then on top of that, like, I couldn't eat. I could not sleep. Like, I was having a headache, pain. Like, it was like the. I've never been that sick before. And I remember literally came out of nowhere. It came out of nowhere. Literally. I got. I started getting feeling sick on the plane, and as soon as I landed in Dubai, I was, like, a bit mobile. And then literally the next day, I just generally, I couldn't get out of bed. Had to get taken to hospital. That, like, to be very, like, explicit. There was blood in my mucus. Like, literally when I blow my nose when I was coughing, like, it was really, really bad. And my temperature was 39 degrees. I don't know what that would be in Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit would maybe be maybe just like. I don't know, maybe like 110. I don't know. I don't know what that would be in terms of Fahrenheit over 100. Yeah, it's over 100. So really high. And yeah, generally could. I couldn't be. I couldn't be awake longer than an hour. So you can imagine I'm going into the New year, everyone's like, 2025, the year 5, 2025, God's going to do a new thing and I'm sick. And I was the person who was fasting for the week and praying into the new year. And as soon as I finished fasting, I became really s. And that period of my life when I was really sick challenged me on my dependency on God. It challenged me in terms of how much, how much do I actually trust God? Because even when we're talking about business now, being able to have a service based business, I have to be present on my meetings.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now I have to lock off my meetings. I can't do client calls, I can't do particular things. And I'm like, God, whenever I'm awake, I'm thinking, God, like money is being lost here. Like, I need to. Things need to. I need to get quick. I need to get better quickly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it got to a point where when I was in the bed, like when I'm going to sleep, I generally couldn't. I could not fall asleep because literally my nose was blocked. And then on top of that, I couldn't swallow, so I couldn't breathe properly. So I had to literally ask the Holy Spirit to put me to sleep every single night for a week. Wow. And in that plane, I literally felt like I heard the Holy Spirit say, like, haley, this is a level of dependency I want you to have for the rest of your life. I didn't even realize that it took me being sick to make me rip that it took me being sick and it made me realize I don't actually really depend on God like I thought I do to the point where it's like, wow, God. Like, we can come and say, okay, good morning. Like, good morning, God. Like, thank you, thank you for opening my eyes. Thank you, God, for this day. And you can do that. But that's. That doesn't mean dependency.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like dependency is really being able to come and say, like, God, I genuinely am really surrender this into your hands.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

And I felt like God was really reminding me about how much he actually loves us depending on him. Like his character and his nature is actually to hold us as children.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I felt like in that time when I was ill, I had a lot of conversations in my head. I took I took a lot of times actually to repent of my independence and where I felt like I was functioning outside of God. And one of the things, the analogies I'm always thinking about is the fact that just because your phone is working doesn't mean it's not dying. Because as soon as you remove the phone from the source, it is dying. It's functioning, but it's dying. So I didn't realize that I was functioning, but I was dying. So my battery was getting lower and I was. And you know what the crazy thing is? I didn't even realize that when I was sick, I was really tired.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So that that period actually allowed me to rest. I didn't realize that I hadn't rested for two years. Wow. So I was leading and bleeding.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I'd be fellowshiping. I'll be. I'll be leading. I'll be evangelizing to other. Everyone else's soul, but I was forsaking my own.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's basically where a lot of people can get to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When they've got a platform or where you're ministering or speaking or when you've got a business, it's like you're pouring into everyone else and you're not allowing the Holy Spirit to pour back into you. And that's dependency. Dependency is God. You are my sour. Dependency is God. Pull back into me. Dependency is being able to humble yourself before God. And I remember even when I was having the conversation in I think December, I think when it was in November, when he was telling me, you're going to take sabbatical to spend time with God and just to, like, refresh yourself. And I was just like. I was just like, wow, I love that for you. And Holy Spirit was just like, when's your turn? Like, literally, you're speaking to me. I was like. I was like, sis, yeah, you go, yeah, take that sabbatical. I love that for you. I just was like, why are you clapping for her where I'm calling you? And literally I was like. I was like, yeah, God, don't worry. I'm gonna do January. Did my fast, still didn't rest properly. And it was literally. It took me being sick bedbound for me to be like, haley, now you really need to rest.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And in that time of rest, be still. I know that he is God. Be still. That's. That's literally the scripture. Like, you know, you hear it, you know, be still. Know that he is God. No, no, no, no.

[B]

It makes for a good poster.

[A]

It's It's a good poster. It is a good WhatsApp picture. Like, a lot of our moms probably have that WhatsApp picture.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or, you know, just somewhere on Instagram. So it's the sunset in the beach.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Be still. Yeah. God, but that scripture means so much to me right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I remember even having a conversation with the Holy Spirit when I was in recovery. So now I'm recovering, I'm starting to feel a bit better. And I literally heard the Holy Spirit saying, haley, I. I needed you to rest because you would. You would have been too tired to receive everything that I had for you anyway. And there's so many of us. As I said, we're functioning, but we're actually really tired.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So even when the Holy Spirit wants to speak to you and tell you, oh, you need to turn left or you need to turn right, you're even too tired to listen to him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. We talk about, you know, driving when you're drunk have. What about driving when you're tired? That's another danger. That's. That's correct. I think that's even more dangerous than being intoxicated. Correct. Because you can just fall asleep at the will at any point.

[B]

Yes. Being sober minded, you need to rest. You need to even have a sober mind. I don't, I don't. I can't even discern properly if I haven't taken the time to rest properly.

[A]

Rest.

[B]

Like, we also have to understand that we live in a body.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, come on, let's talk about that.

[B]

Do you know what I'm saying? Like this body you have, like the Lord has given us a body to also steward. We're supposed to steward this well. And I've been getting gut checked with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I gave you this body.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that it can house my spirit.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Not for you to do whatever you want to do with this body. You are to steward this body well. So that doesn't mean just how you clothe this body. That's what you're putting into this body, how you're resting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When's the last time you took a walk? Oh, what, just go outside and walk?

[A]

Yeah. That's deep, you know?

[B]

Do you know what I'm saying? Some stuff we like. I. I think people want to experience these like crazy, supernatural, spiritual things and sometimes you just need to go walk.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Sometimes you need a nap, sis.

[A]

When I tell you that I'm constantly learning that there's certain things you will never get by Grind, but you'll just get by. Grace, you can work hard, you can do whatever you can. But I'm telling you, if grace, if you run before God, you run before grace. And if you're tired, you will miss God.

[B]

You will.

[A]

You will miss God. Because when he's telling you, oh, actually, maybe this one, you need to be 80 miles per hour or you need to turn left and turn right. If you're too tired, you're going to miss that turning. Yeah, you're going to miss that turning. And grace has gone left and you've gone right.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And grace is the thing that will sustain you. The Bible says grace is sufficient for you.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So if you're running before grace, that means that you're running on your own back, you're running on your own fuel, and that fuel is going to run out eventually. As I said, just because you're functioning does not mean you're not dying.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And I find that, you know, especially last year, I was. I was testing in a lot of places in terms of my discernment and the thing that I've. I learned last year. And I remember having this conversation with you, actually, just after the podcast last year, and I was talking about the difference between good versus God and how that was where I was at. I was like, no, I'm not going to be tested in my bad. I'm going to be tested with the good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm going to be tested with good. And I have to be able to be sharp enough to discern. Is this God, though? Yeah. Just because it. Just because it tickles my fancy. Just because this is what I prayed for. Listen, the enemy knows what you pray for, too. The enemy knows what you pray for. And the thing about the enemy is the enemy gives it before process. Like, let's think about. Let's think about Abraham. The Abraham was meant to be the father of Isaac, but there was still a child that came before Abraham. Which means that there was something that there was a promise that still kind of came, but it didn't come in the right timing. God knew the timing. God knew that he needed Isaac to come at a particular time through a particular woman. And I think about the fact that God is so intentional of our promises that if we are too tired, if we're disobedient, we will end up basically kind of more or less bringing in a counterfeit promise.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

And just because it looks good. I remember literally a few weeks ago, I was studying, you know, Jesus. Right. In terms of when Pilate basically called for who should he release Jesus or Barabbas. A lot of people don't even know that in the scripture, the name before Barabbas is actually Jesus. So he's actually called Jesus Barabbas. So Barabbas was the counterfeit, and Jesus was the one. He was the true son of God. And then there was the counterfeit there at the same time, which means there's gonna come a time where you are gonna have to choose. Is it going to be your Barabbas or is it going to be Jesus? And both will have the same name because there's going to be a good versus God. And I was just thinking about the fact that, wow. Like, the thing that's not good for you is actually going to look like the thing that is good for you. It's going to look like it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Bible says he. He disguised himself like an angel of light. And I'm thinking about last year, and I feel like I'm always caught up in, like, these mad, like, spiritual kind of encounters with, you know, just in life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I remember last year, I was in Dubai, and I was presented a business opportunity. And, you know, it's one of those opportunities that, you know, I prayed, I fasted. I was like, God, give me, you know, give me something that I can really work with. Something that's going to, you know, take our business to the next level. Someone's like, yeah, Haley, like, we want to work with you, and we want to basically put you in a retainer. I'm telling you, Megan, this was like, the biggest contract in my life.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I was like, oh, my gosh. God, this is. This is it. This is. This is you, right? I. I remember skipping through the mall in Dubai. I promise you, I was so happy. I was skipping people. I'm sure people were thinking, who the hell is this girl? And what is this girl? And I was skipping. I was singing to myself. I was so happy. Now I remember literally sending the contract over to the person. And I remember literally hearing the Holy Spirit say, this ain't me, though. And I. I repeat that voice. I was like, for sure. Get thee behind me. Please, God, we prayed about this. And I know this is you. This aligns with my prayer. This aligns with my prayer point. This is exactly what I wanted in terms of a client. Everything that I prayed for. This has to be you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, you know, the Holy Spirit is subtle. He's a gentleman. Like, the Holy Spirit was. It was. Would nudge me in such a beautiful way and kind of be like, this isn't Me. This really isn't me. And I was tired, though. Like. And when you're tired, you will take anything because you're tired.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And you just want something to just shift and something to just.

[B]

Who is that Isaac or not? Was it. Who was it that took. Who gave his birth right away because he was hungry?

[A]

Esau.

[B]

Esau. Yeah, it's like that. It's like, because. Because you're. You're hungry for something, you literally just. You just throw anything away because you're. Because you've starved yourself, bro.

[A]

And I remember literally being in that scenario. And cool. The contract comes. God locks it off. And when. I mean, God locks it off, literally the person ghosts me. So I'm like, okay, I don't have a choice now. Like, this person responded back to me. This person here responded back to me. So I don't have a choice. Come to find out, a few months down the line, I end up bumping into somebody who knows the person. And more or less, basically, the person basically opens up and says, oh, yeah. That the person was actually kind of basically in witchcraft. And the money that that was. They were doing money with, it was blood money. And basically God was protecting me because that money can't touch me. Like, that money. I can't be involved in it because my altar is pure. Like, we don't do that. And literally finding out a few months after that, that that person ended up becoming really sick, maybe losing their life. And it's because of basically what they had been taking part in that made them sick because of the sacrifices and stuff that they had been doing. Now, at the point, I thank God that I, the Holy Spirit, was so gracious to lock it off, and the Holy Spirit was giving me that nudge. But I generally thought to myself, how many people are entering into covenants, entering into agreements, entering into things that generally they are because they're so tired. And, you know, there's warfare that sometimes you can invite.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you're too tired.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You just walk into it. Like, there comes a time when people are like, you know. You know, the. The devil keeps attacking me. If your house is locked. Yes. He's barging in. But sometimes the doors just open.

[B]

Sometimes you forgot. Sometimes because. Because let's. I know I have done that several times where I've been so tired that I forgot to check. Man, that back door. Lock that back door.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

Did I. There were. There was a time that not too long ago, I came downstairs and. Because here's the kicker. I came downstairs in the morning and walked out to my garage door and the garage door was open. But because I was so tired the night before, I don't even remember.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I'm like, when, when did I, you know what I'm saying? Like, when did I, I don't even, I was so tired, I don't even remember checking or not checking or even thinking that I close the garage. I don't even remember the last time it went open. And I think it's the same thing. Sometime not aware spiritually and if you're not taking proper rest that you will leave a door open and you don't even know when did I leave that open, when did I, you know what I'm saying? Like, and, and now all hell has broken loose in, in your life, all because you weren't sober minded, rested enough to make sure that you're being diligent, to make sure all your doors is closed.

[A]

And can I just also add in terms of when you're tired, because this is also something that I've discussed with you before as well about like the amount of Christians that jump from conference to conference hoping that the man of God or the woman of God is going to lay hands on them for their breakthrough. You don't even know where their altar is. You don't know who they believe in. Just because they say the name of Jesus doesn't mean they're surrendered to the name of Jesus. And because you're so tired, you no longer go to God, you go to these conferences thinking that the conference is going to break you through.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is why I'm learning, let God be God, because sometimes we can make idols of these conferences, idols of these platforms and these preachers and pastors. And don't get me wrong, priests are necessary. It's biblical.

[B]

Yeah. Prophets are necessary. Teachers are necessary. Those are ne.

[A]

Yes. The fivefold has been literally given to edify the saints.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But when you are too tired to speak to God and then you now make that your God, this is where I'm like, let God be God in all areas of my life. I'm being challenged in terms of Hayley, where is it that you've ran to a sermon before you've even had a conversation with me? Where is it that you've ran to a council before you've even let me know how you feel? So I'm not. God is not saying you can't do that because Bible talks about, you know, the multitude of counsel is important, but do it alongside with God.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And allow God to be priority first. Yeah, that actually you ask the Holy Spirit, God, who is my counsel first. You're running to counsel without even running to God. You be open up your business too. Some of you even going to chat GPT. You're even replacing the Holy Spirit with chat GPT because you're too, because you're too tired. Because you don't want to wait before God because the Bible talks about waiting.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

So you just go to chat gbt. Tell me what this scripture mean. What? Tell me what this dream. I know I have some people in my life that will literally go to chat GPT, ask them what the dream means. And I'm like, please ask the Holy Spirit. Chat GPT ain't got the Holy Ghost for sure. Stop going to chat GPT, please.

[B]

But that's, but I think that that's. Think that that's the air that we're living in.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And I, and I, Yeah, I kind, I feel like I've been saying this for a long time, but it's like you have to learn how. We have to deprogram ourselves from conveniences. Because. Because we live in an era of just being convenient. Everything needs to be convenient. I ain't even going to hold y' all. I rarely go to the grocery store. I order my groceries period. Because it's convenient. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, y' all want donuts? Bet Ordering them straight to the house. I'm not going out to get no donuts. Oh, you need some glue and some scissors. Bet. Target doordash.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm not going to the store.

[A]

Right.

[B]

When they can come to me. Right. I like to be convenient. I like my life to be a convenience. Right. And that's a lot of the stuff that we live in. That's why Amazon is one of the top companies in the world. Right. Because it's convenience.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Two day shipping, one day shipping overnight. Some stuff I will order at 10pm it is on my doorstep at 4am and we expect our spiritual lives to be the same, bro.

[A]

Like, it's everything you're saying, even the fact that you're relating it to real life. It's like fast food is unhealthy.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Like, at what point has eaten McDonald's every single day been healthy? It's never been healthy. Like things that need to take time, like you need it to process.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think this is, this is where people go wrong. Like as I said, people want promise before process. And because they're so tired of Waiting. They will take the counterfeit promise.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

You will take the Barabbas. Like I generally thought to myself when I was. When I was reading the scripture, Pilate literally. Pilate literally made it clear, guys, Barabbas is a murderer. Yeah, Barabbas was a murderer. Barabbas had some. He had some counts under him. Jesus without sin. They put it to, who do you want, the murderer or the one without sin? But people were tired.

[B]

Yeah, give us the murderer.

[A]

Yeah, give us the murderer. I would. I'm God. I'm tired. Yeah, I'm tired. So the Israelites. I'm tired. Give me Egypt. Yeah, I'm tired. Give me Egypt. And this is how people start compromising. So this is how you end up going to an ex that you have no business talking to. But because you need a little. A little someone in your ear to come be like, oh, yeah, you're pretty. Because you don't know. You're wonderfully and fearfully made. You don't want to go through that inner healing with the Holy Spirit. You don't want to go through the scripture that affirms you in who you are in Christ. You'd rather have somebody affirm you a counterfeit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm constantly learning, like, Haley, when you're tired, you will always choose to counterfeit, even if you don't want to. You will, because you. Your discernment is going to be off. It's going to be off because good is going to look like God.

[B]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you in practical ways how off it be when you go for convenience. When I'm hungry, I pull up to Taco Bell. Oh, it's good in the moment, right? Have you ever had Taco Bell fries?

[A]

I haven't had this in a while, man.

[B]

Let me tell you, them fries are fantastic. You dip them in the cheese. It got some seasoning on it, especially when they fresh. Okay, Bomb, you eat a little taco. I don't know if it's real meat. Oh, I don't know. Do any of us know? We don't know. But when you're hungry and it's convenient and it's. It tastes good. Like, let's keep it a buck. It tastes good. But the next day, your stomach. My stomach is messed up. Because what tastes good, what looked good, what was convenient, doesn't mean it was good for me. It wasn't good for me.

[A]

So good.

[B]

But it was good for the moment.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Because Satisfied what I wanted in the moment. But the long we. We don't ever think about the long term effects of what we want. Inconvenience.

[A]

Come on now.

[B]

Because think about it now. Like I said, I don't ever go to the grocery store. Right. I just always have. I got people dropping groceries off at my house. Right. I got Amazon prime dropping stuff off at my house. I'm order. I don't even go shopping no more. It's like at your house. I order and what am I doing? I'm living a life of isolation.

[A]

Oh, that's deep.

[B]

We are, we are literally discipling ourselves to be isolated. How? Like the, the amount of human interaction that we're limiting when the Bible tells us. And I'm not saying so don't take my words out of context, but I'm saying the Bible tells us to go and make disciples of all nations and I'm limiting my human encounters because I want convenience. And we're not even thinking about the long term effects of that, of how.

[A]

This is going to impact the gospel.

[B]

Because. Because now. Because I'd rather be convenient. I'm not leaning in because what if the Holy Spirit' No, I don't need you to go to Kroger cuz there's somebody that I'm. That I might need you to bump into that I need you to witness to because I need you to make disciples. Right, right, right, right.

[A]

That's so good.

[B]

I'm saying that even for me, that conviction, even for me. Cuz don't think. Cuz you got this podcast. That's the only avenue that the Lord is going to use.

[A]

You, you're speaking to me.

[B]

Do you know what I'm saying? I'm like, we, we have to be mindful of leaning into being convenient, like the convenience of life.

[A]

What you're saying is so good because even in terms of convenience, your emotions are convenience. Right. Your ammonia like. Yeah, yeah. You feel offended, be convenient. Convenient for me. What do you mean? I want to block them. It's convenient. It's convenient. But the reality is you have emotions but don't let emotions have you. Yeah, because once emotions have you, the enemy will have you too.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Like God has emotions, but God is not emotional. Yeah, because if God was emotional, I'm telling you, we'll be seeing meteors and everything hitting every country. America maybe first. I don't know. Because America. Because a lot is going on in America.

[B]

You said we're the first ones to be judged. I don't know.

[A]

The UK will be. The UK will be. And Canada, child, I don't Want to go into Canada, but there's a lot happening in the world. The meteors will be in every different place. Right. But something that I'm constantly learning, even with my emotions, because I'm getting to a place of a lot of self awareness and a lot of self reflection and regulating my emotions because my emotions have deceived me many times.

[B]

Can we talk about it?

[A]

Oh, sis, we can talk about emotions. It's just. Wait, I'm not allowed to sing emotions on here. But I just need to. I haven't listened to it for a long time, but I wanted to sing this song. It's just.

[B]

I think that is such a good point that you're saying about emotions being convenient. Like, oh, like, yeah, that person made me mad. So the convenient thing is to have an attitude. Ooh, that's convenient because you made me mad so now. Or you irritated me. So the convenient thing would be to have an attitude, but the godly thing would be to do what? To lean into love. To lean into humility. Right. But I think, I think what we have, number one, we have an entitlement issue. So we're entitled. However, I feel I got the right because that's what culture tells us.

[A]

Yeah. The entitlement is dangerous.

[B]

It's the entitlement. But then we lack patience, so.

[A]

Good. And that's a discipline. That's a discipline.

[B]

I'm telling you. I think we have to. Really? Because when you said like you're taking accountability and doing a lot of self reflection, I've been like knee deep into the Lord being like, yeah, let's talk about you.

[A]

Sorry. Yeah, so the way God speaks to, you know, gotta be the way God is direct.

[B]

We. I understand, but let's talk about you. We gonna, we gonna put a flashlight on your heart.

[A]

Right?

[B]

So let's, let's deal with your heart. And, and in. I think it exposes. Well, I'll say for me, what is exposed is that you have a self control. You have lack of self control, you have lack of patience, you have lack of humility, you have lack of love, you have lack of generosity. And I think for me, I'm like, I am the most generous person. No, you're not. You're generous in a convenient way. It's, it's, it's, it's convenient for you to buy stuff.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And you think that you're generous because. Oh yeah, here, that's convenient. But are you generous with your love? Are you generous with your patience?

[A]

So good.

[B]

Are you generous with your time?

[A]

So good.

[B]

Are you generous with your ears? Like, are you just being a listening friend?

[A]

Oh, and can you talk? Let's. Let's delve into that in terms of listening, friend. Because one of the things that God conveyed. Convicted me about in terms of friendship is that that when you're a listening friend and you're not actually giving conviction and correction because you're afraid that your friend will not want to hear it, you are actually doing them disservice. Like, you're not even generous with truth. Because sometimes you want to just listen for the convenience. Because I don't want to hear the. I don't want to. I don't want to hear the feedback. Because if you tell them the truth, then they come and give you feedback in your head. You're like, it's convenient for me just to keep quiet because if I tell them the truth, I don't want to get into them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't want to get into it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's actually the area that God's been convicting me about. There's been a lot of people that have been silent. Like, I. I've been tolerating things that I know I just shouldn't tolerate.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm talking about in terms of sin level. I'm talking about there's certain things in my friend. I'm like, bro, you're actually operating at a sin. You're doing stuff that is like this. I can't tolerate that.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But. Because I just don't want to get into it. It. Last year, there's certain things that I just sat at. I just kind of like, oh, man, I don't want to get into it. Like, I'm not. There's no point bringing it up. And the Holy Spirit convicted me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Convicted me. Because it's like, do you know that's selfish? Like, literally, the Holy Spirit said, you know, that's selfish. Like, how can you be somebody that you're willing to listen to your friend rant about particular situations, but you're not generous enough to actually give them my word?

[B]

Because it's convenient.

[A]

Convenient.

[B]

I don't want to deal with the backlash or the. I don't. Like, I don't. I. I don't want to deal with it. And I think that that is just where we are as a culture. It's just like, I want convenience. I want life to be convenient.

[A]

I want life to be convenient. I want it to be black and white. I don't want the blue. I don't want the yellow and this and this is, this. This is the scary thing about choice. Like, I think we have too much choice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We have too much choice to the point that people are going mad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Generally, that's why I think that there's. There's an increase of mental health issues. I think there's an increase of people's. People are losing their sanity voice that we have. It's too much. It's like, you know, it's the. When. Even when you think about opinions. Right. You know, the, the access of opinions we have to. When we're not meant to have access to that many opinions. Yep. I'm not meant to know what people think about Dubai and Kenya and also Thailand. I'm not meant to know.

[B]

Right.

[A]

What food people are eating for their breakfast. Right. I'm not meant to know if. Whether you use sunflower oil, rap seed oil, olive avocado oil, I don't care. But for some. But somehow it's still on my fyp and I. And I have access to these opinions about how chicken is meant to be cooked and how a baby is meant to be fed. Genuinely. Like, you're just scrolling and you're just seeing opinions.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People's opinions about politics, people's opinions about religion, people's opinions about influencers, celebrities. It's a constant thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And people are wondering, why is there an increase of mental health? Why are people losing their minds? Because we're having access to other people's thoughts to the point that now you're distorting gods. Like, I was watching something the other day about, you know, the amount of times that you've watched something and you go to sleep and you dream about that thing. And then I think about the fact that we. This and this is. And we're talking about emotions and. And I'm not a therapist. I'm not a therapist and I'm not gonna diagnose anyone here. But I do think that we have to be careful when it comes to. There's a lot of people that are saying that they hear from God and it's kind of like. Like a level of kind of schizophrenia, like psychosis. And I'm not. I'm not a therapist.

[B]

Yeah. It's like you're not hearing.

[A]

You're not hearing. Like you are hearing convenience. Because the reality is, as I said, if you've been watching a movie, then you fall asleep and you dream about the movie. It was the last thing that was in your mind. So now you watching.

[B]

You've sanctified at the dream that wasn't Even right?

[A]

So now you're coming across all these opinions on social media. One of them sticks. You don't realize that it's entered into your spirit. So now you start saying, oh, my gosh, like, the Holy Spirit is telling me to do that, too. You don't realize it's just another. An opinion that you've just. The enemy's just kind of put onto you, put an attachment onto you. And now you believe that's God. So now you start believing, oh, wow, I believe that God told me to do a podcast. No, he didn't. He didn't.

[B]

And. And this is why you. One of the. One of the things that the Lord. Speaking of convenience, one of the things that the Lord was really dealing with me with, with during my sabbatical was like, I. It's like, lord, I'm ready for you to fully develop me now. Like, I want it now. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, nah, I don't. Like, go ahead, hurry up and do right. What you gonna do.

[A]

I don't want the pain.

[B]

And. And you want to know what scripture. And so I'm like, because. Because there were even things that I was struggling with. Even things, like, I told you, I've been struck. Like, I was strugg, Lord, exposed that I have a. Like, you are prideful. You're prideful. That's pride. You lack vulnerability. Yeah. It's like the Lord is just. I'm telling you, be careful asking the Lord to search your heart, because when he do, you got to deal with that. So, like, and so I. I'm praying, and I was, you know, just certain things that I was dealing with and struggling with and just, you know, being frustrated. And like, I, you know, I've been very transparent with having bipolar depression and. And the challenge that that presents to me and having high highs and low lows and my mood being very, you know, shifty. Like, one minute I'm fine, and then the next minute I'm not. And it frustrates me. And so I'm like, begging the Lord, like, Like, lift this man. Like, fix it now. Fix it now. And the Lord is showing me, like I said, he was showing me that, like, you lack patience. And, like, you lack patience. I am trying to mature you so that when I bring you to the level of glory that I want to bring you to, you have the character to sustain it, but you have to. And the scripture that kept coming to me, wait. They that wait on the Lord so good shall renew their strength. You want the word now you want the deliverance now. You want the answer now. You want the, the problem fixed now. You want it now. And, and just like Paul, sometimes the Lord is like, my grace is sufficient. Wait. Yes, either, either wait or I'm not gonna move it.

[A]

So good.

[B]

And my grace is sufficient.

[A]

So good.

[B]

And you have to know that when you lean into the Lord and you lean into the intimacy, you lean into the spiritual disciplines that, that, that we have in his word right to like. As you're waiting, your strength is being renewed. You're not waiting in vain. The Bible says that he withholds no good thing from you. So if you don't get it right now, it's not because he. He's withholding it for you for like, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

It's.

[B]

He's not withholding a good. You don't have the character all the time to sustain what you're asking for. So be patient in the meantime.

[A]

Be patient.

[B]

Be patient in the meantime.

[A]

Let be still and be. Be still. And let him be God.

[B]

And we. I'm telling you, if we don't get. If we don't start learning how to be wise with our conveniences, we're going to stay frustrated in our spiritual disciplines.

[A]

Do you know as you're speaking, because a part of me has been looking at the body of Christ recently, and it's not with criticism, it's with concern. Because I've been wondering, what is it that people. Why is it that people want convenience more than Christ? Because that's kind of where we're at for sure, especially in the West.

[B]

Because, Because Christ is not convenient, right?

[A]

Christ is so convenient. And we're in a very Antichrist era era, like, it's very clear that there's certain agendas that are very anti Christ. When you think about the Olympics, when you think about, you know, what is on the platforms, and you think about what was it? It wasn't the Grammys. It was another thing that happened, an awards ceremony where there was just like, it was just very blatant Antichrist symbolism. It's like they are very much letting us know, hey, we don't want your Jesus in here at all at all, right? And I've been wondering, what is it that is making people want convenience over Christ? Now when you think about leaders and when you think about the standard of the church, leadership falls into it. When you think about even the Timothy and the fact that there has to be a standard of even what leaders are, who bishops are, who's. When someone's called to ministry. How do they act now when we've got leaders who. Who want convenience over Christ, it will. It will go throughout the church. So when you've got a leader who has. Unfortunately, does not work in walking integrity. Let's say, for example, they're doing infidelity, Then on top of that, they're preaching. You're basically saying, hey, we can have both. I can have Christ and infidelity. No, you can't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is.

[B]

There is a standard.

[A]

There is a standard. And. And let it be known.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is where I feel like our generation is. Is falling off. It's like we don't have standards anymore. Yeah, we don't have standards. And then when. And it grieves me because we. We do have to be careful in terms of, you know, how do we go about correcting people when it comes to when they're doing particular things. And there's been a lot of things happening from the beginning of year. The level of exposure videos that I've seen on YouTube. Jesus. It's been. I had to come off YouTube. I was like, this is a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But for me, I never find joy in exposure videos. And what I mean by that is that it's. If anything, it makes my heart weep that God, where did people. Where did you go? Where did we go wrong? Where did we start to feel that this was okay and that a leader felt okay to do this? And where did we feel it was okay as a body of Christ to even just be passive?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To be lukewarm. The Bible literally says, if you're. I will spit you out. Yeah. And I feel like, honestly, in these end times, God is challenging us in terms of our standards.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

God is challenging us in terms of our temperature. God is challenging us to know, actually, how lukewarm are you? How lukewarm are you? To the extent that this. I didn't even realize that I started to just generally believe when it comes to certain ministers that, oh, maybe that's just the norm. It's never the norm. It should never be the norm. And that's what I mean, because I've started to kind of go with convenience over Christ.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is why the word of God has to be the thing that you're in day and night. Meditate on it day and night. You better be in that word day and night. To refresh the Bible. The reason why the Bible says renew your mind is because convenience will renew your mind if you don't renew your mind in Christ.

[B]

Yeah. I Think this is why a few things that was coming up while you were talking for me is like, this is why Romans 12 has really been a thing for me right now, is because presenting yourself as a living sacrifice means you are living a life of inconvenience. It is not convenient to present yourself as a living sacrifice. And if we go and look at the word of God, and I'm not even because I think people love to take characters and make them the main character of. Of God's story. But let's look at God and let's look at his story. Let's look at how he moves. It wasn't convenient for Abraham and Sarah to wait as long as they did for Isaac. It wasn't convenient for. For Abraham to sack, to even walk that long journey up to sacrifice Isaac. That wasn't convenient. It wasn't convenient when. When God told Jeremiah to do all the things that he told him to do in spite of his youth, in spite of people looking at him crazy. It wasn't convenient. It wasn't convenient for Jonah to go to Nineveh. It wasn't convenient for even, I think, in the New Testament with Peter casting his net the second time. That wasn't convenient. And the main character in all of that is God, and he works through what is inconvenient. And the miracle is on the other side of what's not convenient. So if you're looking for God and you're pursuing convenience, you're gonna miss it because God is going to show his miracle difficult on the other side of what's not convenient.

[A]

Come on now.

[B]

It's not. It's not convenient to read your Word. It's not in the today's culture. It's not convenient to read your Word. It's not convenient. The Lord told me, I want you on your knees, come on. Every day in your intimacy with me.

[A]

Not.

[B]

Not sitting in your bed because it was convenient for me to just get up and lay in my bed and pray. That was convenient. But the Lord was like, get on your face because that's not convenient. I want you to be in a season of being inconvenient because that's where my miracles are. My miracles are on the other side of what's convenient. It wasn't convenient for the Lord to walk everywhere that he went. It wasn't convenient that he didn't have a place to lay his head. It wasn't convenient that he got on the cross. Those were things that were not convenient. You. Every single time God performed a miracle and did Great things. What did he do? He went and prayed and went to be with his father. You think that that was convenient? He probably wanted to rest it, but he didn't. He went to go pray more. He went to go be with his father. We have to learn to stop being convenienced.

[A]

I don't know if I'm the podcast guest or the. The person being delivered. I don't know. On a serious note, that is it, bro. That's. That's my life right now. Like, let God be God. Like, where I'm trying to hold on to the convenience, where I'm trying to hold on to my life. Like, even when you're talking about Romans 12, like, my. Actually, my favorite part of that is actually the word beseech. He says, therefore, when you think about beseech to describe it is imagine like your child is going back at the cliff. You love your children. You're gonna beseech them. You're gonna shout. You're gonna be like, get away from the cliff.

[B]

I'm begging you.

[A]

Like, you're pleading, you're crying. Blood will go. Like, you are stressed.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Paul was stressed. He was like, I'm, like, I'm crying. I don't even know the state. He might have had a blood vessel burst at that point. He's basically saying, lay down your life as a living sacrifice. He's basically saying, listen, wherever you think convenience is going to save you, it's not going to save you.

[B]

It's nice.

[A]

And this is what I mean. Just because your function doesn't mean you're not dying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Convenience is your functioning convenience, but you will die with it too. Yeah, you would die. You would die. Inconvenience, like, it will literally, that place of convenience will deceive you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because when I think about my life before Christ, it was so convenient.

[B]

Like, I did what I want.

[A]

I did what I'd want, feel what I felt, smoked what I smoked, had.

[B]

Sex with who I wanted to.

[A]

Yeah, it's convenient.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is. This is the thing. I remember even having particular conversations a Jesus. Even the. That's what I mean. Convenience has come into the church because I. Even when it comes to, like, Valentine's Day and all this stuff, I've. I got particular people that I've come across where people are like, yeah, you can try before you. You buy. Jesus said. Jesus. Jesus said, what?

[B]

What scripture is it?

[A]

What? Where. This is what I mean, Convenience. People be making up the scripture. I think people are rewriting another Bible currently.

[B]

And so. And this Is. And this is the thing, thing. If you are, if you are listening to a gospel that is convenient, you are not listening to the gospel, the.

[A]

Gospel, you are not. And even the scripture that comes and says, if an angel comes and appears.

[B]

Itself as an angel of light speaking to you, anything other than the gospel.

[A]

Of Jesus Christ, that is not the true gospel. And people think that was only referring to angels. No, people don't know its current culture that if there is a preacher, a prophet, if there's somebody who. I don't care if they are apostle, preacher, prophet, teacher, whatever title they've got, they could be doctor, Reverend, Apostle, teacher, whatever, they could have all of the names. But if they are preaching a gospel that does not refer to Jesus Christ as Lord, does not refer to sin being sin. Because people, people don't want to call out sin anymore because of convenience. As I said. Why am I going to call out sin if my tithe and offering is going to be high?

[B]

Cuz I can do. Yeah, I rather do a conference where we talking about your blessing and breakthrough through.

[A]

Why am I going to not repent? Why, why am I going to do. Why am I going to call out. Why am I going to disciple you on the one, on, on true discipleship, on what it actually means to lay down your life as a living sacrifice? Why am I going to do that when I could just tell you, hey, read this. You know, hey, yeah, God loves you and God is going to. No, no, no, no, no. There comes a time where we have to have standards, as I said. And you have to tell people, listen, what you're doing is wrong.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And yes, you're inconvenienced, but you're not in Christ.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't, don't convenience yourself so much that you literally leave Christ.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You literally leave the word of God. You literally leave the conviction of the Holy Spirit.

[B]

That's what I was going to say. If you, if you have, if you are living a life where you are so convenienced that you have no conviction.

[A]

Conviction over convenience.

[B]

Give me conviction all day.

[A]

Give me bro. And the conviction. It's not nice. It's not nice. It's not nice. I bro, I already told bro, the contract that I was getting was a lot of money, man.

[B]

What?

[A]

It was a lot of money in Dubai. It was a lot of money. Like I was literally skipping through that more sis. That would have been so convenient for me.

[B]

I just had an offer the other day come in. It was a nice little offer. I ain't gonna hold you. I Was like, hey, man, I got bills, you know, I'm trying to get a new car. I need to get a new car. I got to. I'm trying to get my kids in private school trying to move. It was a nice little. It was a nice little. But. But I can't. Al. I cannot go against.

[A]

Come on now.

[B]

It's like. Because convenience is going to cost you somewhere.

[A]

Convenience will cost you some.

[B]

It's going to cost you at some point somewhere. It's going to cost you.

[A]

You have the opportunity to tarry. You have, have. You know, there's a book that says, was it revival that tarries? I haven't read it myself, but I do believe that this. This revival that we're in, we're going to need people that know how to tarry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And tarrying isn't about, you know, just praying. For a long time, Tyrone has been able to be in your word and not being wavered and moved whenever the enemy comes in, like a flood.

[B]

And this, this is in speaking of the time that we live in and the revival that we are experiencing, because I do believe that God is. Is. Is raising up a remnant. I really believe it. Like, we are living in a time where God is really raising up a remnant. And what I was feeling so strongly in my spirit when we were. When we were going through a fast, it. I told you the Lord was really convicting me a lot about. About dependency, all of the stuff that we're talking about being convenient, all the things like that. But I would even. I would even want us to be mindful because sometimes the. Help me, Lord, in saying this right, sometimes the experience in the movement of a revival can even be a convenience.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Because it sparks, it tickles a part of our emo. And I'm not saying that what we're experiencing isn't all true, isn't all real, isn't all genuine. But I'm saying you, if you are, if you are, Are leaning more on that than you are spending time with the Lord. Right. So I only. I'm only. My only time, spiritual time, is when I'm in a gathering of people at the conferences or when I'm in the comments responding to some viral video from my favorite podcaster or my favorite preacher or whoever, or I'm. I'm that, like, we have to, like, I don't. I don't want us to make that an idol. Don't make the revival an idol, but glean, like, learn how to have patience and discipline in spending time with the Lord.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

Reading your word, praying, asking the Holy Spirit. I like Holy Spirit, illuminate this word for me. Help me learn what you are saying, what I need to interpret. Like, spend time with the Lord and not just make an idol out of this movement and revival that God is doing. Because I don't think that he wants us to make an idol out of it. He's using it to draw people to who, Him. The goal is Him.

[A]

You know, I'm so happy you're bringing this up, because that's been one of my greatest worries, that the fact that we're in an era that Christianity is a trend rather than a lifestyle. Like, we've got particular people who are just out here just saying, yeah, I'm a Christian, but your lifestyle doesn't reflect Christianity. Like, what does? Let's talk about integrity. Like, if we're going to pick up a night, be integral about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, don't just be thinking that, oh, me talking about God is going to get the views. Okay, you're going to get the views, but there's also going to be judgment at the end of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is, this is something that, you know, John Bevere talks about so often about, you can love, love God, but do you fear Him? Like, convenience also has to be rooted in, you know, the income inconvenience is rooted in reverence.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Because I have reverence for the Lord, I will be. I'll be inconvenience because what.

[B]

Because the begin. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

[A]

Because, you know, listen, everybody who knows.

[B]

Anybody who has wisdom, like old folks who got wisdom, they don't move with convenience.

[A]

I. You told all at all. At all.

[B]

They don't.

[A]

And like what you said, the track record in the word is literally inconvenience.

[B]

When, when, when my fa. One of my favorite examples, because I feel like the Lord wants. This is always the thing, his thing with me, and this is how I have to live. And. And again, the Lord convicted me a lot about this because even though he spoke this to me at the beginning of in totality, I'm like, all right, I did that for enough time now. Like, switch it up. Give me my answers quickly. Speed up this transformation. Speed up this healing. You know what I like, I wanted I in the Lord. The Lord always draws me back to what he was telling the Israelites when it came to their daily bread. Like the manna. You. He said come. He said, don't store up nothing. Come daily to get your manna daily. And anytime they Stored it up. It spoiled it. It was rotten so good. That made them dependent on the Lord. It made them have to go to him daily, which would have been, what, Inconvenient. Why do I need to do that when I can just store up a.

[A]

Bunch when I can just. And the crazy thing is, why do.

[B]

I need to read my Word when I could just go to the conference?

[A]

Exactly. And this is what Jesus even says when. When the disciples ask him. Jesus teaches how to pray. Give us our daily bread.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's been consistent from throughout the whole scripture. Give us our daily bread.

[B]

Daily dependence has to be a daily dependence.

[A]

It has to be a daily inconvenience. And I was even. I was having a. A conversation earlier today, and I was talking about how this season of my life is actually a morning season because I had realized that, you know, when the scripture says from glory to glory, personally, I believe from glory to glory also means from death to death. So that next glory means that there's another death, another death that requires. Right. It's very. I'm in a very inconvenient season because there's a part of me that has to die.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I remember literally last year I was praying. I was like, praying, and I literally heard a Holy Spirit saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. That. That prayer life. Last month's not going to keep you for this month. Month. I'm like, God, I pray. I've been praying. You want me to pray more?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And.

[B]

And because I'm like, I just. Sometimes I. It just overwhelms me because I really do feel like it's confirmation when I hear the Lord saying some of the same thing to his people. Like, oh, you. He. Okay, so it's like confirmation, like, oh, Lord, you really are doing this with. With the people, like, your people. You're doing this because I feel like the Lord in this season again, because I told you, I'm like God, I'm doing that. I'm doing. And he's like, and I want more.

[A]

And I want more.

[B]

And I want more.

[A]

More living, sacrifice, more living.

[B]

I'm requiring more. Because at the end of the day, to whom much is given, much is required. Is required.

[A]

That was a scripture I was literally meditating on this morning. I literally said that to my husband. I was like, this is the scripture of my. Too much that is given, much is required. And I've been.

[B]

And we want much and don't want him to require more. I want more of you, Lord, but I don't want you to require more. I want you to bless me more, but I don't want to pray more. I want you to give me more, but I don't want to sacrifice more. I want you to do more, but I don't want to consecrate more.

[A]

That's it. And this is a generation, as I said, like, it's, it's. It's literally this generation that wants promise over process, man. Like, you want the promise so bad, but you're not willing to go through the process.

[B]

You don't have the character.

[A]

You don't have the. You can't sustain. Promise, promise. You can't sustain. Just because you're in the room doesn't mean you're going to stay there. People are falling left, right and center, especially in terms of like celebrity world people, because character. People being called out of things that they did in 1990. People. People be like, oh, I remember that in 1990. On this day, this day, lawsuits are being brought up from the early 2000s because character, character. And this is the thing as well, that, that I'm, I'm constantly learning. Like, Haley, if you don't check yourself now, if you don't check yourself now, oh, there's an, there's an enemy that is scheduled to try and pull you down.

[B]

Like, do we think that. We think Satan just be chilling. I think we think like, he just be like, chilling. And like the Bible says he's. He's.

[A]

Seeking.

[B]

Like, he's like, he's on that.

[A]

He's.

[B]

He's on the prowl.

[A]

Y' all see, listen, he is one of the viewers on your Instagram story.

[B]

He is there and he takes our faith with the Lord more serious than we do.

[A]

Bro.

[B]

We over here, relax. Like, we. And I want us to be relaxed because the Lord is in control of all things. But I'm saying we over here laxed in our, in our relationship with the Lord. We just like, I'll pray. Like, you know, I'll pray tomorrow or I'll, you know, I'll fast next week or I'll do. Listen, whatever the Lord is telling you.

[A]

To do, do, you better do it.

[B]

You better do it now.

[A]

Do you know what, sister? Like, and I think we had this conversation before the conference because obviously I had a quips and you had, you had your conference just before. And I remember the level of warfare. Hey, bro, I was on that stage balling my eyes out like I was cuz the level of warfare I faced leading up to my conference, that was a reminder for me that this devil war. Oh yeah, he he is not playing and he is not backing down.

[B]

He not playing.

[A]

And bro, you can't have a part time prayer life of a full time devil.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You cannot afford not to pray.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

You cannot afford not to be in your word. Especially in a time such as this. Especially in a time where the enemy is making it very clear what he's actually on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, he's making it very clear. I'm on. Crud.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm coming and I'm coming hard. The Bible says he comes like a flood.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if you don't raise that standard up in your prayer closet, if you don't raise up that standard in your word life, if you don't raise up that standard in your consecration, in your level of, of surrender, like, I'm constantly being challenged to come and say, haley, where you are going, this is not biblical in terms of new levels, new devils. But the Bible comes and says that you don't fight the, the. The. Was it the giants of, of Egypt, you'll fight no more. Which means there was giants in the promised land. They're just different giants.

[B]

Giants.

[A]

Yeah. Just because. Yeah. You're not fighting the giants of Egypt. There's also scheduled giants. There's scheduled things that you need to go through. Yes, David was doing the light, the lions and the, the tigers and the bears. But then also Goliath was a giant.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

He. He was an uncircumcised Philistine. Yeah, he was. He was a beast.

[B]

And he wouldn't have had the confidence to face Goliath. He didn't have the confidence to face the lion in the bear. You know what I'm saying? So it's like we have to be mindful of where the Lord is, like, what he's doing and if he's required, number one. I just feel like right now the Lord is requiring more. And maybe that's just a me thing, but I just feel like God is requiring more. He wants more. And. And when in any time there is any ounce of me or any ounce of my flesh that's like, it don't take all that. I'm all like, I feel like I'm always combating that with. But he deserves it. It.

[A]

Oh, that's so good.

[B]

Even if it don't take all that, if I'm feeling any nudge to give him more, ain't he deserving of it? Doesn't he deserve that?

[A]

That's so good.

[B]

Why would I give less?

[A]

He's a good father.

[B]

I can't imagine knowing him more. And giving him less.

[A]

So good.

[B]

I can't say that I have more of an intimacy with him and I'm not giving him more.

[A]

Cuz you would never do that in a relationship. You wouldn't, you would never, you would never ever do it in a relationship. Like say for example, like you're in a relationship, you don't speak the whole day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you're expecting them to kind of give you some love. And yeah. It's like, but you haven't spoken to me all day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like we need to be able to understand the Holy Spirit has feelings. Has feelings. Like the Holy Spirit wants to be involved in your life. The Holy Spirit wants to know your day. Even to the extent the Holy Spirit wants to know what hairstyle you want to do.

[B]

I tell them.

[A]

I. I tell, I told, I told her. I'll be asking the Holy Spirit, where did I put my earrings, my keys? I'll be, I'll ask the Holy Spirit the weirdest questions. I'll be like, I don't even know if this sock looks good. Holy Spirit. Like, what do you think?

[B]

What you think?

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

Seriously?

[A]

Seriously.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

But no, seriously, seriously.

[B]

Because I'm about to put this on. Do you like it?

[A]

Are you pleased? Are you pleased?

[B]

Are you pleased?

[A]

Are you pleased? I.

[B]

And I. Cuz it's convenient for me to show my body off.

[A]

O oh.

[B]

It's convenient for me to show I got. I got hips and it's convenient for me to show them. I might get a man quicker. Ain't nobody in my DMs. You want to know why? Cuz I choose the narrow path and I dress with modesty. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying it's like in all ways true. The. The path is narrow and few find it.

[A]

Few find.

[B]

You want to know why few find it? Because it's not convenient.

[A]

It's not convenient.

[B]

The narrow path is not convenient. And if you are on, if you are find take inventory of your life and if you see that you moving in a way that looks like you on a broad path, you might, you might need to switch it up.

[A]

We bro, I feel like literally this episode, it's crazy because it wasn't really meant to go like this, but it still was meant to go like this in terms of the. The Lord's leading. I really feel like this, this, this is, this is a message in seasons. It's like I'm. I'm being so serious because I'm concerned. I'm generally concerned for the body of Christ because of the fact that we have mixed convenience into Christ. We have genuinely for. I remember, literally, I don't know if you saw there was a TikTok video that went viral where someone was kind of saying, hey, I go to church and when I come out of church, I smoke weed. Weed. And the Holy Spirit don't convict me about it. The Holy Spirit said, it's fine for me to smoke weed. As I pray.

[B]

As you praying that that's what the.

[A]

That's what she said in the Tick Tock video. And people. And people are like, oh, my gosh, thank God. I thought I was the only one. I said, jesus. I said, how did. How.

[B]

Everybody exposing themselves?

[A]

How did we get. How did we get here? Convenience.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because your weed is convenient.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Smoking that split is convenient. Smoking that is convenient. But you still want Christ.

[B]

But I beseech you, whatever it is, that TV show is convenient. I beseech that movie is convenient, that music is convenient, that that relationship is convenient. Because you don't want to be lonely. You want somebody to text you every day good morning.

[A]

Right. Even though you know that this guy is literally not about what you. You. What you need right now. He's not going to lead you to Christ. He's not going to lead you any better. And I get it. I get it now. The. The. The more that I'm. I don't know, in this. This place of mourning, mourning my old self. Mourning this. This level that God is no longer pleased with. That's the best I can say. It is. It's. It's. I literally woke up this morning and my husband was like, what's wrong with you? And I was just like. I was like, I know there's a new level. And. And I can feel. I can feel the grievance of the Holy Spirit, that this. This. This ain't it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This ain't it anymore. Yeah, I know. Okay, cool. Yeah. I know you. I know you can speak and I know you can do this. I know you can pray and I know you can.

[B]

No.

[A]

No. But this is not it. For where you're going, you need to up the prayer. Where you're going, you need to up your word.

[B]

I want more.

[A]

I want more. I want more of you. I want more of your time. I want your consecration. I want more of your discipline. I want more of your obedience. I want to touch all the areas. The areas that you keep running away from. I want. I want it. I want that heart. I Want that heartbreak. I want it. I want the finances. I want the business. I want everything. I literally was just kind of like, okay, God, this is a lot. But I know with where you're taking me, like what you said to much that is given, much is required.

[B]

And even if you have to land on, even if you don't know where God is taking you, even if you don't know the direction that you don't know what level he's bringing you to, land on the simple fact that he's deserving.

[A]

Oh, that's so.

[B]

Even if you don't know where he's going, where he's taking you, land on the simple fact that He's God and He's deserving. He is God because He's merciful, plentiful.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

So the mere fact that he wants more is his kindness. The mere fact that he wants more is his love and his mercy and his grace. So if he wants more, even if you don't know how it might benefit you, even if it doesn't benefit you so good, does it mean that he's still not deserving?

[A]

So good. If.

[B]

And I. I promise you, God wants us to really be in a place where. Where we used to say, oh, God, if you don't do another thing, you've been good, I'll serve you. If you never do anything else, prove it. Prove it. Prove it.

[A]

If.

[B]

If he really does nothing else for you, will you still serve him? If he doesn't give you the car, if he doesn't give you the man, if he doesn't give you the business, if he doesn't heal that. That disease, if he doesn't heal that child, if he doesn't, will you still serve him? Because it doesn't change who he is and it doesn't change what he deserves. And if he asks for more, give it to him because he's deserving. Serving, period. Period. It doesn't matter where he's taking you. It doesn't. It matters who he is. He's God, he's holy, and he deserves it.

[A]

Period.

[B]

Land on that. And I feel like that's where he wants us to be at. We gotta stop centering ourselves in it and center him. He's good, he's holy, and he deserves it. Whether he does another thing or not. Not God. If you end this podcast today, I'll serve. I. I'll continue to spend my entire life serving you.

[A]

And that's why you're my friend. That's why I respect you. Because there was particular things in terms of when God was like, yo, Megan, like, you need to lock that off. That's what. Behind the scenes, I'm. I've seen it where it's like the let go. Like, it's. As I said, it's letting go. It's not easy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like when you literally, at the end of last year, when you was like, yes, it's. I'm about to take a call for that. It was like, I can't remember, like two, three months in the back of my head, I was like, damn, sis, that's a lot. That's a long time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you have a whole platform, like, you got a big podcast, like. But for you to still be like, sis, I'm taking this. Like, the Lord requires me to consecrate. Not many people will do. Do that. Not many people will really trust God because he deserves it to be like, man, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna lay this down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna lay this down and pick up my Bible. I'm gonna lay this down and pick up my fast. I'm gonna lay this down and pick up my prayers. And I'm in the place where I'm like, God, I need those reminders. So as I said, even God convicted me and I was end up being sick and I ended up getting my own conviction. Like, that even planted a seed in me. I didn't even realize I needed. Did that reminder and that seed when you was like, oh, sis, I'm taking a sabbatical. And I'd heard the Holy Spirit say, hey, where's yours? When. When's yours come in? Because convenience.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sometimes this. This ministry thing, sometimes the book.

[B]

Yeah. Money is convenient.

[A]

Money is convenient.

[B]

Money is convenient.

[A]

So convenient. So when you now start. Are getting paid to the.

[B]

To do what you love and what you're called to do. Yeah. Yeah. 100.

[A]

And then when God says, like Isaac, lay it down. When you are getting paid to do the things you love and when you're getting paid to do the things you're called to do, it makes it a bit harder because at this point, it's like you get challenged.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is your. Is his grace efficient to you or your bank account?

[B]

Who's your source?

[A]

Who's your source?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's what. That's what convenience actually truly challenges. Who's your source? Is your source to opinions. Let's think about source. Saul. Let's think about Saul. Because Saul had a kingdom. Saul wasn't out here murdering people. All Saul did was he disobeyed the. He disobeyed the instruction from God because of the opinions of others. It was like, oh, but, you know, they, they didn't want me to do. And then it was convenient, convenient, convenient. He was still going to get his kingdom, and the kingdom still got stripped away anyway. So Saul did end up staying as king. He didn't stay as king that long.

[B]

Yeah, because let me. Let me tell you what, it ain't gonna be convenient.

[A]

What?

[B]

Judgment day.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

Oh, that's what's not going to be mean. You can take all the convenience in the world right now if you want to. What's not going to be convenient? Judgment Day is Judgment Day, and we.

[A]

Don'T talk about that enough. You know, I think a lot of people are really scared to talk about hell. Yeah, they're scared to talk about hell, Judgment Day. And this is what I mean in terms of convenience. Convenience going with. Mixed with Christ is that when you remove the theology of hell.

[B]

Because that's also. That's also a convenience.

[A]

That's a convenience. And that's another thing that's being preached right now. And that's where my concern is, is some people generally don't think that hell is real. So if hell isn't real, why am I going to live a life of inconvenience? Why do I need to pray more? We're all going to go to heaven anyway. I've been seeing some of these theologies. We're all going to go to heaven anyway. It doesn't matter. We're going to. Was it purgatory first, and then we'll go to heaven after hell doesn't really exist and all this stuff. And I'm just kind of, oh, that's why you're sinning, that sin. Because there is no fear in you. There's no reverence in you. There's no belief in the devil. And I remember reading a book, there was a book that read in the 1960s, and the book was. I can't remember who was written by, but the book was labeled, if I was the devil, what would I do? And he. He wrote this in the 1960s. He said that I'll go into the school system.

[B]

Everything is happening now.

[A]

Everything that's happening now. And one of the things that he said which was so clear, he said, I'd convince people I don't exist. If I was the devil, I'd convince people I don't exist. I'd on. I'd make things under spiritual. Wow. I'd make people think that, oh, that's not, not, that's not a spirit or that's not the enemy. That's just your laziness or just. And I'm just kind of like, wow. This is why some people literally are very passive about particular things. Because you don't believe in hell, you don't believe in the enemy, you don't believe in the judgment day, you don't believe that Jesus is coming back again. You don't believe in it. Even though you say you're Christian, you can't literally read when. And the mad thing is end times, when Jesus talks about the, the second coming of Christ is one of the most talked about things in the New Testament. And so even when we say, oh, we're in the end times, when the end times, people be like, we're always saying that. No, we're really in the end times though. We really are really. Sis. Bro, I, I kid you not. I saw you, I think last time I saw you in like November, right? Time. I can't. Time is gone. Yeah, the earth is spinning faster. You know, scientifically, the earth is spinning faster. Like when you think about time, the concept of time, these end times, like when you think about how many things are happening so back to back and how aggressive it is, and the best way I can talk about the best way I can say it and I'll end here is like labor, right? I've never had, I haven't had children yet, but you have. So you understand that when a child is coming labor, the contractions are quicker and they're closer together. Don't you see? The contractions of the earth are closer together. Look at the calamities of the earth. Look at how close and back to back before there'll be something that happens like, you know, once every eight months. Yeah, bro, this month a lot. January, bro, how 2025 even started the, the plane crashes, the political economy, the economy crashing. All these back to back. This was happening, that was happening. If it was in the uk, Dubai, it was back to back. And I'm looking at 2024, I'm looking at 2023. And I'm thinking, God, the contractions are getting closer. The Bible literally says the earth is groaning, waiting for the manifestations of the sons of God. The earth is literally groaning, waiting for us to manifest, waiting for the sons of God to wake up and say, guys, we need to pray, to wake up and repent, to wake up and be in our word. Guys, if there's ever a time that you, you, I really hope Hope that there comes a time the Holy Spirit will convict you to repent and to be like God. I'm so sorry that my prayer life, I was convenient about it. I'm so sorry that at my. My word life, I was convenient about it. There comes a time I'm speaking to myself. There comes a time when you actually have to look at the state of the world and be like God. I know my prayer life is not where. Where it's meant to be, because the state of the world is literally showing me Jesus, you are coming back.

[B]

Yeah, that's good. That's good. I think. I think if we could end this on anything, it's. If there's ever a time to be serious about your relationship with the Lord, it's now.

[A]

Now. It's now.

[B]

I don't care what. I don't care if you're listening to this in 10 years, five years, five months, six months. If there's any time to be more serious, to be more consecrated, to give more to him, to be more serious about your faith in Christ, it's now so good at just at the end of the day. And so I would, you know, I always do a prompt at the end of every episode. And so the journal prompt that I would. I would probably say is, what more is God requiring? And what's keeping you from giving it so good. And so if you're listening to this right now, that's your journal prompt for the. For the week is what more? It could be more prayer. It could be more fasting. It could be more consecration. Maybe he wants you to watch less tv. Maybe he wants you to spend more time with him. Or maybe it's more discipleship. Maybe it's more devotion, whatever it is. But what is the more that he's requiring that, you know, he's requiring that you are not giving him, and why? And so that's your general prompt for this week. Haley, I could have you on all day. We, obviously, we talk all day. But I love you, and I'm. I'm excited about what God is doing in you and. And all the things. And I can't wait to be in Dubai with you at the end of.

[A]

This year for, yes, we are doing.

[B]

Dubai, and I cannot wait. Yeah.

[A]

London was amazing. And it's an honor. And I just want to say this, sis, it's an honor to do the 180 gospel view.

[B]

Yeah. Amen.

[A]

Like, I remember when we met in 2022, we spoke about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's pierced my heart, and that's where I have covenant with you. I'm like, this is the sister that I know. I can do that 180 gospel. The 1:1 to. To tell people, hey, turn away.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Turn your back.

[B]

Like, yeah.

[A]

When I remember when we sat down and you was like, haley, it's not a 360. It's a 180.

[B]

180.

[A]

I've never heard that before. And I was like, this is who I want to do that with. So thank you for even honoring the invite from coming to London and then Dubai.

[B]

And, yeah, I'm excited. I can't wait.

[A]

I'm excited.

[B]

I love you guys. Listen, make sure you check Haley out. She has a YouTube channel. There's so much great things that she has going on. She has an equipped journal. You still have those journals. They're amazing. They're fantastic. Fantastic. We'll put the link in the description for you guys. Make sure you check out all the things that she's doing. And we will be in Dubai. So if you want to go to Dubai and listen to more conversations like this and you make sure that you. You check her out and we'll have the information in the description. I'm sure we'll have links and stuff ready for all that. But I love you guys. Make sure you check us out next week right here on in totality. See ya. Listen, guys, we are revamping all things that comes to in totality merch and we still have some pieces left for our first collect. So because it's summertime, I probably won't do this again. But we are having a flash show going on right now. 35% off everything on the site. Take it. I'm stressed out, Jordan. Stressed out. Take it all. We don't have that many pieces left. Even if you have a piece already, buy another one. Bless somebody with it. Whether it's a birthday gift, graduation gift, or even a Christmas gift. I know it's early, but never too early to prepare. I love you guys so much. Buy the merge and get ready for some really cool new pieces that are going to drop very soon. I don't know when, but very soon. Buy the merch right [e-mail]. see you there. What's up, you guys? I hope you enjoyed this episode. Thank you so much for listening and I hope you felt encouraged in some way. Be sure to like and follow in totality podcast everywhere you listen to your favorite shows. Follow in totality on Apple podcasts or Spotify and be sure to to turn on your post notifications so that you can be the first to listen whenever there's a new episode.