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It Could Happen Here
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It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.
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Anti-ICE Protesters in Minnesota Charged with Conspiracy
Jun 1700:39:12Summary readyJames is joined by Olive, Margaret, Mo, to discuss the indictment of 15 anti ice protesters in Minnesota and what it means for the first amendment. Sources: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/everyone-vs-ice-on-the-ground-in-minnesota-319435576 https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/outlaw-criminalization-of-ice-watch-in-minneapolis-326372276 https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.234418/gov.uscourts.mnd.234418.1.0_1.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ0hYCF60og See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummarySettler Colonialism with Andrew
Jun 1600:27:02Summary readyAndrew and James discuss settler colonialism across several contexts. Sources: Settler Colonialism and the Elimination of the Native by Patrick Wolfe https://www.britannica.com/place/Liberia/History Liberia: The Violence of Democracy by Mary H Moran. The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi The Question of Palestine by Edward Said https://rpublc.com/story/2024/02/08/international-affairs/the-false-equivalence-of-liberia-and-israelSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummaryHow the United States Shaped the Dominican Republic’s Immigration Enforcement Machine
Jun 1501:03:55Summary readyJournalist Carlos Berríos Polanco speaks with James about how the Dominican Republic’s border and immigration enforcement was shaped by the United States. Sources: Help Bring Ezra Home and Seek the Truth (https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-bring-ezra-home-seek-the-truth) More than a Massacre; Racial Violence and Citizenship in the Haitian-Dominican Borderlands by Sabine Cadeu Empire of Borders by Todd Miller Border Patrol Nation by Todd Miller From tierra de nadie to terre brulée – From Borderland to Border in Haiti and the Dominican Republic by Sabine Cadeu (https://www.histecon.magd.cam.ac.uk/barriers/July2022_papers/SabineCadeauPaper.pdf) Haitians, Magic, and Money: Raza and Society in the Haitian-Dominican Borderlands, 1900 to 1937 by Lauren Derby (https://www.jstor.org/stable/179294) Making the Dominican Republic Great Again? by Lorgia García-Peña (https://nacla.org/making-dominican-republic-great-again/) Marines in the Dominican Republic 1916-1924 (https://www.marines.mil/portals/1/Publications/Marines%20in%20the%20Dominican%20Republic%20PCN%2019000412600_1.pdf) US warns its ‘darker-skinned’ citizens of Dominican Republic’s migrant crackdown by Richard Luscombe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/22/us-warns-darker-skinned-citizens-crackdown-dominican-republic) Latinobarómetro 2024 Resultados por sexo y edad Informe de estudio #LAT-2024 v1 (https://www.latinobarometro.org/latinobarometro-2024#LAT-2024-selected-country-header) Ten Years After a Fateful Court Decision, the Dominican Republic Still Has a Statelessness Problem by Kevin Appleby (https://cmsny.org/dr-statelessness-problem-appleby-102323/) Addressing the Next Displacement Crisis in the Making in the Americas by Valerie Lacarte (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/news/haiti-next-displacement-crisis-americas) ‘They grabbed us like dogs’: deportation quotas tear Haitian migrants’ lives apart by Shandra Back (https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/sep/07/they-grabbed-us-like-dogs-deportation-quotas-tear-haitian-migrants-lives-apart) Federal Agents Investigate Sugar Exporter Over Allegations of Forced Labor (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/10/central-romana-homeland-security-sugar/) “They Just Came and Started Breaking Houses” (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/12/central-romana-sugar-hoyo-de-puerco-demolished/) Despite US Import Ban, Sugar Cane Cutters Still Face Abuse in Dominican Republic (https://unicornriot.ninja/2023/despite-us-import-ban-sugar-cane-cutters-still-face-abuse-in-dominican-republic/) 10 years fighting for nationality in the Dominican Republic (https://www.institutesi.org/news/10-year-anniversary-of-dr-court-ruling-stripping-nationality) LEA Training Schedule 2024 (https://sansalvador.ilea.state.gov/training-schedule?c=fr-FR) International students graduate from elite federal law enforcement program (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/international-students-graduate-elite-federal-law-enforcement-program) Dominican Republic students graduate from elite US law enforcement program (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/dominican-republic-students-graduate-elite-us-law-enforcement-program) El misterio de Ellen Frances Hulett | El Informe con Alicia Ortega (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKIg2np081M) How Far Will the Dominican Republic Go in Deporting Haitians? by Marius Loiseau (https://inkstickmedia.com/how-far-will-the-dominican-republic-go-in-deporting-haitians/) Fearing Deportation, Mothers Give Birth in Shadows by Hogla Enecia Pérez and Luis Ferré-Sadurní (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/26/world/americas/dominican-republic-haiti-hospital-deportations.html) Dominican Republic and Haiti at the Crossroads of the Massacre River by Simón Rodríguez (https://nacla.org/dominican-republic-and-haiti-crossroads-massacre-river/) US team reveals weaknesses at the Dominican-Haiti border (https://web.archive.org/web/20110526044642/https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2006/8/7/16173/US-team-reveals-weaknesses-at-the-Dominican-Haiti-border) Dominican Republic begins building border wall with Haiti (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/dominican-republic-begins-building-border-wall-with-haiti-2022-02-20/) A 101-Mile Wall Goes Up to Block Haitians Pouring Over Border by Danielle Balbi (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-09-28/big-take-why-the-dominican-republic-is-building-a-border-wall-between-haiti?embedded-checkout=true#xj4y7vzkg) “A Veil of Legality” by Amelia Hintzen (https://www.sciencedirect.com/org/science/article/pii/S1382237316000234) Dominican border wall threatens environment, mangroves by Esteban ROJAS (https://phys.org/news/2023-03-dominican-border-wall-threatens-environment.html) Dominican Republic deports pregnant women in ‘inhumane’ migrant crackdown (https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/apr/29/pregnant-women-deported-dominican-republic-migration-crackdown-haiti) La muerte de Ellen Frances Hulett se debió a infartos agudos al miocardio, confirma autopsia (https://noticiassin.com/la-muerte-de-ellen-frances-hulett-se-debio-a-infartos-agudos-al-miocardio-confirma-autopsia/) La muerte de la estadounidense Ellen Hulett: una cadena de preguntas sin respuestas by Ana A, Elina M (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/2025/07/03/muerte-de-ellen-hulett-una-cadena-de-preguntas-sin-respuestas/3170413) Alert: Ongoing Dominican Migration Enforcement (https://do.usembassy.gov/alert-ongoing-dominican-migration-enforcement/) 87 Aniversario de la Dirección General de Migración (https://migracion.gob.do/87-aniversario-de-la-direccion-general-de-migracion/) Haitians displaced by violence face deportation after fleeing to Dominican Republic (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/haitians-displaced-by-violence-face-deportation-after-fleeing-to-dominican-republic)See omnystudio.com/liste...
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CZM Book Club: Poems by Incarcerated Authors -- with In The Belly Magazine
Jun 1400:30:54Summary readyThis week, In The Belly is doing a take over to feature the poems of incarcerated writers in their own voicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummaryIt Could Happen Here Weekly 236
Jun 1302:51:03Summary readyAll of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. - Bovino’s Visit to Europe - Idealogical Totalism with Andrew - The Globalization of Resistance with Andrew - The Arab Gulf States in the Line of Fire - Executive Disorder: Pogrom in Belfast, Trans Healthcare, Denaturalization Cases You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone Sources/Links: Bovino’s Visit to Europe https://remigrationsummit.com/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/ http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf https://www.cbp.gov/about https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444 https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y The Arab Gulf States in the Line of Fire Andrew Leber’s profile and articles - https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567 Executive Disorder: Pogrom in Belfast, Trans Healthcare, Denaturalization Cases https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/ https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20 https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&countyNo=55&index=0&mode=details https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20 https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/ https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/ https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/ https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20 https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20 https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20 https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20 https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20 https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2ySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Executive Disorder: Pogrom in Belfast, Trans Healthcare, Denaturalization Cases
Jun 1200:56:56Summary readyThe gang discuss election fraud claims in California, a pogrom targeting immigrants in Northern Ireland, DOJ investigations into healthcare for trans youth, new denaturalization cases against 17 people, and Greg Bovino’s potential 2028 presidential run.NOTE: Regrettably this episode contained factual errors and omissions: Rwanda was colonized by Germany and Belgium, not Great Britain. The pogroms we mentioned occurred in Northern Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland. Sources: https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/ https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20 https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&countyNo=55&index=0&mode=details https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20 https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/ https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/ https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/ https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20 https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20 https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20 https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20 https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20 https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2ySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummaryThe Arab Gulf States in the Line of Fire
Jun 1100:23:07Summary readyDana El Kurd speaks to Andrew Leber, assistant professor of political science and Middle East and North Africa politics, with an expertise in Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states. Andrew outlines the different positions of the Gulf states in response to the ongoing war on Iran, the competing visions for the region posed by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and the role of Israel in their calculations. Sources: Andrew Leber’s profile and articles - https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummaryThe Globalization of Resistance with Andrew
Jun 1000:24:39Summary readyAndrew talks with Garrison about how the jailing of political prisoners in Spain inadvertently sparked the Filipino labor movement and helped globalize the anti-imperialist struggle of the late 19th and early 20th century.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummaryIdealogical Totalism with Andrew
Jun 900:29:20Summary readyAndrew talks with Garrison about how apocalyptic cult-like groups override critical thought and promote mass violence.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SummaryBovino’s Visit to Europe
Jun 800:39:32Summary readyFormer Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in. Sources: https://remigrationsummit.com/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/ http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf https://www.cbp.gov/about https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444 https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7YSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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