What does starting over really look like after divorce or a breakup? In this episode of It’s Both — Navigating Life’s Gray Areas & Messy Moments, host Nikki P talks with Olivia Howell and Jenny Dreizen, co-founders of Fresh Starts Registry, about rebuilding with courage, clarity, and community.

Olivia and Jenny share honest storytelling from their own divorces and the people they serve—how relief and grief can coexist, why healing isn’t linear, and how practical support systems make all the difference. Together, they explore the messy middle of separation: paperwork and parenting, identity shifts, and the small rituals that create momentum when you feel stuck. You’ll hear authentic conversations about boundaries, self-trust, and the power of asking for help—plus simple practices to cultivate self-compassion, emotional resilience, and hope.

If you’re considering divorce, in the thick of it, or finding your footing after a breakup, this episode offers tools, language, and companionship for navigating life’s gray areas—without toxic positivity.

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Thank you again for listening and remember, life isn't either/or, it's both.