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DEBATE! EPSTEIN PT 5, God, Atheism, Islam, Hebrew Roots, Catholicism, Global Elite, Espionage!
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Tonight we cover part of 5 of the recent file dump as analyzers sift through the new information trove and open up the calls for those who disagree or have question. Send Superchats at any time here: https://streamlabs.com/jaydyer/tip Join this...
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What they are persecuting me.
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They do not have hair eyes to see. Therefore they must take down what they do not understand. That's that booger whistlebase.
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They're energy vampires.
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That's that booger whistle, baby. I got a booger whistle flute.
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They're energy vampires.
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That's that booger whistleblower. Whistleblow. Oftentimes the communal living that the guru demands. This doesn't match up to the guru, who's driving around in a freaking Rolls Royce. How many swamis got a dang Rolls Royce?
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What?
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I asked Vision Last night, the ascended masters came down to me.
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They says, swami or to get Rolls Royce?
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I said, booger whistleblow.
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They're energy vampires.
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That's that booger wh. I got a booger whistle flute.
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They're energy vampires.
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That's that booger whistle, baby.
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How many Rolls Royces you got?
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Get over there in that communal living. By the way, get out of my Rolls Royce.
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I already got 14 Rolls Royces and by Monday he would have 15.
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That's that booger whistle, baby.
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Their energy V.
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That's that booger whistle. I got a booger whistle fluke.
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They're energy vampires.
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That's that booger whistle. Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. Black king, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. But the Dark ages was a time when black people ruled Europe. So when you go into the real history, you'll see King James was. That's King James right there. That's Jay lebron. That's King lebron right there.
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Black. He was not a white guy. You see his whole lineage of kings.
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Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion. Black king, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion, who was a homosexual himself.
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Who was in love with his sister Lucretia. Who they made the image of Lucretia to be married.
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And that became the Renaissance era.
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Lucretia.
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So hold on. You telling me Lucretia, That's a black name right there. How you gonna say that the people that was framing the black people were also black? That don't make no sense. Lucretia is a black as hell name. Lucretia. Church even allowed it. Know what I'm saying? The church allowed for straight pimping. That have been suppressed. That have been suppressed. Listen to my brother. The 1500s, it was legal to be a pimp. Black kings, black bishops, black players. People of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuasion.
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Sam. Let's create new lives Mormon space wise. Our God has about body. It's a very tone body. He looks good. Magic under. Magic under looking. Right. Mormon space wise.
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Lords of color, let me have intimacy.
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With you on the planet of ne. Magic underwear fits so tight. Magic underwear feels so right. No right. Mormon space wise. Creating new lives. You may think I'm being mean to you. You may think I'm being mean to you. I'm just here to debate that. Sam. Think I'm being mean to you? I'm just your debate, Sam. You may think I'm being mean to you. I'm just your debate. Damn.
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Twerkers of the world, unite. Twerkers of the world, unite.
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I will live forever.
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I see you on that Senstogram girl in them yogurt pants. Made me think.
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Sexy little commun. Sexy little commun. Working out that practice. Sexy little socialist like the bugs we eat for access. You just got a little extra. Me calling for you owe my heart and the means of production. Let me show you my means of reproduction.
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Fetal cell sprite. Tonight's the night.
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Ballin.
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Like Joseph Stalin.
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Sexy little communist. Sexy little communist doing little practice.
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O. I seen you on my Instagram.
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You made it my Instagram. Sexy little socialist. You gon make me moxies. Big girls need that love. You expose the big booty industrial complex.
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Big booty industrial. All right. What's up, nerds? Welcome, everybody. It's time to do it up again. We're going to open it up. Open forum. That means you can call in and put me in my place. That means you can rebuke me, correct me. You can prove me wrong. I forgot to start the. Let's start the beep boop. Hope everybody's in a good mood today. A nice, balmy, freezing sort of day. Ready to get my butt handed to me, ready to get refuted, Ready to get in a large scale intimacy sexual scandal so that I can finally be popular. Apparently the only way to be listened to is to have some sort of big scandal because then everybody will pay attention and you're actually vindicated. So I said, what did I say? I said, I guess I'm at that weird stage where I need a giant sex scandal to actually grow the audience, to have people pay attention. Because actually being correct over the last 10, 15 years really is irrelevant. What you actually need is to touch butts. So who wants to touch butts? Let's arrange a giant touchbot festival. I'm thinking Daytona. I'm thinking at least 10,000 bikers and biker skanks. What do you guys think then? Then we'll have an audience. What do you guys think? No. PSA and tag. Let's go to our first caller, True Bird. Now the, the topics today, you guys are basically pre broad. You can call about anything related to Justine McEffrey, you can call about, that's within the TOS, obviously. You can call about biblical theology if you want to debate that. If you want to talk about your theological issues and disagreements. We can talk about church history, we can talk about tag, we can talk about atheism, we can talk about all of those. The first room that I made, Twitter space, whatever. For some reason it froze up and it kept crashing. So I had to remake the link. So there's a new link, it's in the show description and it's also at the top of my profile. So we're going to start it up now. Welcome everybody. We got our first caller again. The subjects are. The recent file dumps. This is part five in our series covering these almost day by day. We may get into some of the Bannon interview again if we, if we don't get some good calls or challenges, we may go back to that. We may look at some of the updates in terms of the, the information that's come out or that's been discovered in the last day or two. True Bird. What's up? What's on your mind?
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Hey, Jay, how's it going?
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Can you hear me? Yeah, what's up?
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Hey, I wanted to ask you two questions if you don't mind. They're both process related questions. Yeah. So the first question is, with all of the information coming out in the Epstein documents and a lot of it seeming to confirm a lot of what you've been saying for years now, what, what do you do to kind of winnow expectations when there's a lot of ambiguity in some of the emails, like one with all the code words. How do, how do you prevent from, like, I guess, over interpreting?
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I think I've, I had the approach of being very measured and so, for example, the email that's discussing the crazy person's account of being cut on their feet with no scars and that George Bush was humping them in the butt, I mean, I think that's. You look at that and you can tell that's obviously just somebody's tip or story. A lot of that doesn't make sense. So use a lot of common sense with these. I don't put a lot of weight or, or credit in or, or, or I don't rest a lot of argumentation on the more speculative ones because the ones that are less speculative are themselves just absolutely damaging and, and devastating. So the one that you're talking about is that the one where it was just a bunch of list of words or you talking about pizza and grape soda?
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The pizza and grape soda. But I was actually thinking of the one that was a list of random words.
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Yeah, yeah. Again, I mean, we just don't, we just don't know. And so, you know, I think when I covered those, I simply just said it's unclear what those are, the list of words, but they could be code. But I do think that it is admitted that the, the terminology of pizza and hot dogs and all that, that's admitted by the FBI to be potential code. So the frequency of all of that is definitely suspicious. But I don't think we have to rest the, you know, case on that because you've got so many other emails basically saying we're going to tap into a pool of a million children in Thailand. We're gonna. Here's the ages of these kids. And it's, you know, it's all different lists of age groups. You have him asking for wishing that he had two babies that were twins to experiment on. All of those are, as far as I can tell, real emails and real accounts. And you can go most of these, you can look them up because a lot of people are just simply putting you the link or the reference in there.
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Yeah. And there's so much coming out. And it makes me wonder, are you planning on doing any sort of. Aside from the video, some sort of a long thread of analysis and sort of tracing of all the things that you're finding in these emails?
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I mean, that's what these live streams are. We did six hours the first night Four or five hours the next night, Three hours, Two hours. Three hours. I mean, that is what we're doing. What, what do you mean? Do you mean something different?
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Yeah, some like a cohesive, you know, almost like a step by step timeline. A little bit more direct, I suppose.
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Well, I mean, we did, we did it. We did an hour long summary with Sean Atwood and that got a lot of views. Then we did an hour long summary with Harrison Smith. And so that's the best I could say in terms of cohesive. But I mean, I'm not even. There's so much stuff and it's happening so quick every minute that it's almost. I don't even know how to collate it in a cohesive way. You have any ideas?
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Well, that's actually kind of my next process question. It's about your research and note taking methodology. I know you've done a lot of. Of streams on that, but there was one methodology in particular that I've come across called the Zettelkasten or smart note method, where you basically take smart notes that are linked to each other and it apparently helps produce cohesive works of literature, whether it's a report or otherwise. Have you heard of that method before?
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No, I'm not familiar with that.
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Okay, I know that you do a lot of research, so, you know, if ever you could take a look at that note code method. Okay, yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
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Yeah, no, that's a good idea. I need. Maybe I should look into systematizing better. I'm not the greatest system systematizing of information. I'm good at boiling it down and conveying that information in a cohesive, compact way verbally. And I think I do pretty good with writing the information that way. But when it comes to figuring out how to systematize all of this kind of stuff, it's just so. It's so much information. And again, remember, we're not just talking about, you know, these sort of files coming out. We're also talking about the background that I think helps and is necessary for a lot of people to get that don't know, you know, the history books, they don't know what's in, you know, Whitney Webb's book. They don't know, you know, the biography of the Rothschilds. And so what we try to do is give the big picture, the fuller, you know, total context to a lot of this stuff. But yeah, so those are good ideas. Icon. What's up, man?
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Am I up?
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Yo, what's up, dog?
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Hey, what's up? What's up? Okay, so I'm gonna try to keep this real quick. So the first one, it's a little bit funny. All the buzz moves was coming out and yeah, we did this in Sharia law, we would do xyz. And meanwhile, their profit is literally in hell because he's a PDF murderer rapist. All of this. I thought that was hilarious, you seeing all the Muslims posting that on Twitter. But the most important one, I wanted to ask is about the information drop of all of the Epstein files. I was looking at somebody's page. I think it's John. I don't know if Jonathan, but Pajo has a brother.
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But he does. Yes.
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Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, so I seen his page and he was saying that. Why do you think the government. The government published the Epstein files? Several theories not mutually exclusive here. They're really quick. It's really three quick sentences. It's part of the black. No operation to publish samples is part of over plan to replace human government by AI government. It's part of a plan to create confusion. And I was looking at some of the things he was saying, and I think I agree with, like, we're just going to post the sample, and if you don't cooperate, then we're going to put the rest out. Because I thought it was weird how they put out all this information that they had for years. It's not like they just collected this yesterday, and yet nobody went to jail. Nobody's being investigated. Nobody's been. At least nobody's asking my questions from the FBI, like, nothing's happened. So I did want to ask, like, and they're also deleting stuff, too, so I think that's fishy as well. So I wanted to ask, like, really quick, what's your thoughts on why this information is coming out, but yet nothing's happening and it's at this time. Why is it, you know, why now? So that's all I want.
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I mean, somebody asked that the other day. I. I don't know the timing. And people can speculate. I mean, they might have, you know, it might have come out because they thought it would damage Trump. And then you had a lot of Democrats saying, oh, wait, no, actually don't have this information come out. Bring it, take it down. I mean, there's a lot of speculation. I don't know. But when it comes to, I mean, pageo's brother, I don't. I don't interact with pageo's brother. I mean, he's. He's an interesting character. I don't want to be mean, but I think he has some issues with like, paranoia and things like that. And he tends to think that, you know, now that you've mentioned him, he's gonna think that you're tracking him and out to get him. So I think that that's a person who's struggling with. With issues. And I'm not saying that at all to be mean or rude. You know, I want him to do well. I think he's a. A smart guy, but also, you know, he struggles with mental issues, I think. So I don't know how he figures factors into this other than, you know, I wouldn't really pay much attention to that. Pep Jacks. What's up, man? Pep Jacks, what's up? You want to unmute? Okay. Nikon, what's up?
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What's up, man? Can you hear me?
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Yeah. How you doing?
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Good. How are you? Good.
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What's on your mind?
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Living it up. Okay, so I feel like this is perfect time for. You were mentioning you're going to be doing an interview with Kubrick's daughter or some kind of collaboration or something with her. I was just curious, like when that's going to happen. I feel like, I wonder if she would have some insight, you know, on Eyes Wide Shot and just maybe what Kubrick knew. I don't know, I was just curious, like if that. That it'd be cool if you got her on soon. Right? It's like perfect timing for that.
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Yeah. Except that she just simply doesn't really want to talk about that stuff. So she wants to talk about Zionism and Islam and she has issues with both of those. I did get her. She did say she would talk a little bit about Kubrick's films, but I think, you know, a lot of times the children of directors, they get. Get sick of talking about their parents films. So she probably doesn't want to spend a whole lot of time talking about that. So we'll see what she will talk about though. What's up, Swift? What's on your mind, guys? Remember, the topics are pretty open forum. You can talk about whatever you want. You can bring it to the four if you disagree. You can make your argument if you want to talk Tag, if you want to talk about psa, you want to talk about Epstein, geopolitics history, church history, church fathers, you name it. What's up?
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Hello. Am I on?
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Yep. Beautiful.
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Sorry for being stupid. Thank you for having me on. God bless the work you do and it's awesome you let Anyone just hop on. I've been kind of. I don't know, I've been following your streams the last week, and I've been kind of. I don't know, I've been toying with the idea that they wouldn't necessarily need to have farms. Like, I know they have the farms and the factories and the human mills, but I feel like eventually they would try to move away from, like, actually having a physical location. And with the way that everyone's already monitored and the way everyone is tied onto their phones, I feel like they'd be able to groom anyone into being whatever they want. And since they'd be able to track them, they'd probably just be able to, I don't know, be anywhere they want them to be or set up opportunities for them to be at the right place in the right time. Yeah.
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I mean, there were Epstein emails discussing the possibility of modeling an AI, sort of versions of a child's mind. He wanted an AI that was a child's mind. So, I mean, yeah, they probably would like to have something like that. Elijah, what's up, man? By the way, if you disagree or if you'd like to ask a question or if you'd like to call in, you can call in through the Twitter space link how to make a new one, because for some reason that other one just kept crashing. So here is the new link. If you're an atheist, if you're something else you disagree, feel free to call. What's up, man? Swift or. Excuse me, Elijah, we want to unmute.
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Hey, Jay, I was going to ask about epistemology. Can you hear me?
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Yeah, go ahead.
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I was going to ask, what's your tip for it? I'll hear you talk about it a lot, but I don't really understand how to get into it or understand the.
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I would read the book Epistemology by W.J. wood, and then I would read the Bonjour text that's green on epistemology. So that's where I would begin reading wise. And then, you know, there's lectures and people online who. Who have tons of epistemology talks, including Father Deacon, Dr. Ananias. But do you want to be more specific? Like, what do you mean when you're saying getting into it?
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Well, I'm sort of just trying to understand, like, I guess just a foundation or just. Just a foundation, I suppose.
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Yeah, I think those books would probably be the best route. I mean, they're pretty easy and accessible if you begin with the Wood book. And then I would progress to The. The other one, because the. The green one is more of a grad school tech. So it's going to be a little bit of a challenge. But. But I also have my philosophy course which you can get in the show description here. And it covers all three of the basic, you know, areas of philosophy, ethics, metaphysics and epistemology. And I think we had Father Deacon, Dr. Ananias on for the epistemology episode. It's a 1212 lecture course series, kind of a master class type thing. And that is in the show description in the Autonomy Agora marketplace with Richard Grove. Caliora Velta. What's up? What up, dog?
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Yo, what's good? Can you hear me? Yeah, I had a question about. Well, I guess I just wanted to inquire about toll houses. I've never heard you talk about them before. I don't know if you have before, but I was just wondering, like, what's the correct interpretation? Was Father Seraphim Rose correct in his interpretation? The Church fathers. Is it even real in the first place? You know, stuff like that?
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Yeah, I think it is part of the Orthodox mystical tradition. And I would look at his book on it. It's pretty good. Sam. What's up? Sam Decker. It's just usually the, you know, that that subject comes up, I would say once every six months. So. Yeah, we've talked about it a bit, a lot. It's just something that. I don't typically go into Orthodox mystical theology on live streams because it's not very conducive to that, but. What's up, man?
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I.
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Sam, what's up?
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Yo, yo, Jay.
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Yes, sir.
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I just wanted to tack on to something you mentioned in a previous stream about the Epstein stuff and Orthodoxy being the kind of like, one of the last bastions against this, like, debauchery and.
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Yeah, I think we talked about that last night. Yeah. What about it?
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Well, like, I was just thinking about how in Orthodoxy, like, if you're an Orthodox Christian, like, the power of blackmail doesn't really have much control over you because the church has like, the systems and the sacraments in place for you to like, confess all this stuff.
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Well, I mean, maybe on a private level, but even in terms of, you know, Orthodox countries, I'm sure blackmail plays a significant role in. In political life because that's just. It's universal. It goes all the way back to the. To the ancient world, so.
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Right, right, yeah. As like. As like a tool for power. Sure. But. Yeah, I mean, and then I had a question on bitcoin in Terms of your views on it?
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Yeah, go ahead.
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I was, I've just been following the markets the past few years and you know, I haven't really done much investing or anything. But. Are you a bitcoin maximalist in the terms of like, like it's the only crypto or you're just like, in general, like that's the main investment for.
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Yeah, I think it's the only thing that's money. The rest of that stuff is just essentially gambling or some form of, you know, tokenized application. And if you want to play with that stuff, you can. But I think that ultimately they're not really going to pan out unless there's, you know, something that ends up being like a stable coin or something like that. But I mean, outside of that. No, I don't. I'm a big. I call myself a bitcoin supremacist, but if people want to. People want to gamble, they can't. But no, I only, I only promote bitcoin. And by the way, you notice we had the biggest. I don't ever remember one whole day where it went from six, eleven thousand dollars in one day. So that was pretty wild. But go ahead.
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Yeah, yeah. So like I could see bitcoin probably going down for like the rest of the year, maybe hit a bottom. And so it's like. Think that's why I'm like excited because it's gonna be a really good year to like not just. But I mean there's going to be other assets that are gonna go down.
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Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, we haven't left the traditional four year cycle. So we're in the bear market now. And it's, you know, not surprising. I think when we talked about, you know, where bitcoin would go whenever it peaked. So it peaked at 120, whatever it was. I think we said that in the bear market we would probably go back down to, I think I said 60 or 70. So that's exactly where we were. We could go lower because I think this is a bear market. But people are freaking out. That's actually good news. Right. So that what this means is that a lot of the higher price action was due to institutional speculation and to flush out the speculators is necessary for the long term strength of bitcoin. So I bought literally at the bottom yesterday. So anyway, so I put my money where my mouth is. What I'm trying to say. Sam, what's up? And then JR.
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Actually learned is that Epstein runs bitcoin and is Russian agents. And so that's who's really controlling the bitcoin markets. Epstein working for who?
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There we go. Dan Pena, the great boomer. And I gotta mention this because Mike Ben went on Benny. What's that guy's name? Benny Johnson. And they did this interview where.
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You believe it?
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Benny Johnson. Now, let's. This is. We're not going to spend all day on bitcoin. But this is. This is interesting.
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Jeffrey Epstein created bitcoin.
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You have this Daniel Pena clip that's going so viral, and he's like, you won't be able to sleep at night. I'm sure you've seen it. Yeah.
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You know, you find out who's. Who makes. Who created bitcoin, you're not going to be able to sleep at night. And it's going to effing zero.
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Now they don't play the clip, right? They don't play the full clip. It's an edited clip. And I've been complaining about this clip now for two or three years. But who does Dan Pena, the screaming cussing boomer say that was the creator of bitcoin? It's Putin. If you watch the full clip, which is utterly ridiculous. Was Putin working at the nsa? So here's what. Daniel.
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Bitcoin Putin. Could I say something about the. One of the last callers? It's a Ruski conspiracy to up the American economy in the world.
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So Putin is a Russian conspiracy. Go ahead, John.
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Oh, no, go ahead. Go ahead with your clip. I'll. I'll say that.
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No, that is the clip. It's just Dan Pena saying Putin created bitcoin.
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You know who's behind bitcoin? Putin. I was gonna say the guy who was asking about AI. The goal is to make you more predictable. So if you're more predictable, it's a symbiotic thing between the, you know, the. The mathematician stuff behind the AI, but it's not really that. The AI is not that smart. So the goal was always to engineer you to be more predictable.
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Absolutely. Sean, you want to say something? Yeah, man.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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I hope you're. Well, my question is more of like a what now? Question with all of these disclosures and stuff. What. What's your opinion on what the world is going to look like? It seems like Trump is more concerned over attacking the people that actually got these files released than doing anything about arresting anyone that have committed any crimes or anything like that. There's been some stuff overseas with people stepping down and stuff, but I'm. Do you think we're going to go to war. Do you think there's going to be more volatility, you know, in the markets because of it? I'm just, I'm curious on your opinion. We, we did a catechism livestream last night and this, that's, that's all anyone wants to really talk about, you know, is, you know, what's going to happen now. So I'm, I'm just curious about your opinion. Does the world get more volatile? Are there more disclosures? Do people go to jail? Or it's just, you know, life as usual?
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I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. I wish I had better answer. I mean, people were asking this last night. I, I don't know what's. I don't know.
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I mean, we have like hierarchs in town, you know, and we, we were asking, you know, them this question and the one thing, you know, they said, they kind of like stuck with me is that the, the Orthodox Church is the oldest institution in the world today. You know, Rome fell, Byzantium fell. The. All of this stuff is fallen. All of these empires have fallen, but the Church has stayed, you know, so I think, I think if you're in the church, you just do the work of repentance and do all that stuff and, you know, carry on as usual while the world gets more chaotic. So, you know, I mean, we have that solace, I guess, being in the church. But, but I was just curious your opinion.
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B
You know, I don't know. I mean, there's people saying that they think that this was leaked to demoralize people because it shows that. I think Father Spirit on said that it shows that no one will get in trouble. So it's a, it's a demoralizing thing. I mean, it could be, but I mean, to me it demonstrates the reality of good and evil, the demonic and the angelic of, you know, God and the enemies of God, those that hate God, you know, they live, they really do live their lifestyle. And most of us, I guess, are mediocre. You know, we're not on either side. We're kind of thinking that we're good, but we're probably, we're probably lukewarm. But, you know, people like Jeff, Simon, Gaffrey, they. He took his Satanic Kabbalism or whatever his worldview is atheism, Kabbalism, seriously. So, you know, he, he seemed to be into it. I'm not saying that's good. I'm just saying like, well, he's not lukewarm. You could say that. What's up, Verge? What's up, Jay?
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A
What's going on, man? Hey, dude, I have a more of, like, philosophy worldview question. If you're doing those tonight.
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B
Yeah, you can talk about anything.
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A
All right, cool. So are you familiar with.
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B
I think his name is Ken Wilbur? New Ager?
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A
I think so.
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B
Yeah. I know that guy. It's like a new age you guy.
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A
Yeah, yeah. I had a buddy who was like, hey, you should give this a listen. I think you. You. You'd be interested in that. And I'm always willing to at least listen to something. But I think since I became orthodox and since. Since I actually started listening to your stuff and diving more into philosophy, I got just a lot more skeptical whenever anyone sends me something that's like, a world view. Like, I had a buddy who was trying to send me me a book that was some sort of Hindu Veda book. I was like, I'm just not interested, man. I just don't really care to spend any time in that at all. But I. I respect this guy a lot. And so I decided to give it a listen. And one of the things he was talking about was the, you know, the map is not the territory. And he was going into talking about, you know, how every single world view is, like, a little bit correct, and so you can try and pull pieces from each individual worldview that are correct. And I started thinking about that. I was like, well, I mean, I look at it, there's one that's more correct. It can't be that they're all just equally correct. You know, I think that there are things that are more correct than others, and that's why I stand by orthodoxy, and I think it's the most correct representation of God. But I was curious if you had any thoughts on that, like, if you've ever kind of delved into that conversation with people or any of your own, you know, writings or anything like that that you want to point me towards, or videos just about, like, understanding multiple different world views, you know, is it that it's objectively one is correct, that means everything else is wrong from what they believe or. I think you kind of get where I'm going with it.
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I think that people have fundamental elements of a worldview that are necessary. So there's. There's necessary elements within the three paradigm or within the three domains of philosophy, epistemology, metaphysics, and ethics. And you can't have a worldview at all if you tinker with or reject the fundamentals within that paradox within your. Within your. Your Worldview. So the basics. Everybody has to have to have a worldview, but then down the line, downstream from that, that people will have all kinds of differing discoveries and opinions, and that really is not necessarily reflective of their commitments or their preconditions. So in other words, an atheist can make discoveries in mathematics, but the discoveries that he's making are really inconsistent with or not compatible with his pre. Commitments if he was aware of it or if he was reasoning correctly. Because our argument is that atheism and these kinds of worldviews actually lead people to not reason correctly. So the flaw in their reasoning is a result of the atheism. But the atheism is due to moral problems, not actually an epistemic or a. The root of it is moral, spiritual. It's a spiritual problem. It's not. Yeah, it's not mainly an intellectual problem. Exactly.
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A
Yeah. Okay.
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So yes, a worldview, you know, a Hindu guy can discover, you know, something about math or logic that doesn't make Hinduism true. Right. So, but, but ultimately there can only be one paradigm that is internally consistent and, and universally coherent and cohesive. So that.
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A
When you say internally consistent, do you mean that like across the three domains, that it's consistent across those.
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B
Whereas like when you look at other.
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Worldviews like Islam, Hinduism, etc, like they're not consistent across.
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B
Yeah, we're talking about at a fundamental level. We're not talking about at every single element or level.
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A
What do you mean by that?
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When you say at a fundamental level, the pre. Commitments, the basics of metaphysics, ethics and epistemology, you can't deny those and have a worldview. It'll be nonsense.
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A
Right. And so are you saying that like, for instance, Islam denies those.
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Islam ends up denying those things when it has a unitarian, unknowable, un. Unassociable deity because he's. He's nothing like the creative order.
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So if I'm understanding correctly, when you unpack these different worldviews, they eventually end up denying those three areas.
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B
One of those three areas. And so it becomes inconsistent. Correct.
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A
Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
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B
Thank you, man.
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A
I appreciate it.
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B
Yeah, no, it's a great question. I'm glad that. Glad we were able to clear that up. So there's a guy saying, jay, you are wrong call. There's the link to call in right there. So you're welcome to call in and set me straight because. Because I'm wrong. What's up, Ben? Magic underwear fitting tight. What's up, Ben?
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Hey, can you hear me?
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B
Jay.
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A
I was wondering if you well, first off, just want to say hello, man. I'm a big fan. Learned a lot from you over the years. But my question was about Anya Wick. Just seeing if you have checked out her claims and what you think about the legitimacy of what she's claiming with Epstein and her connection.
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B
I don't know who that is. What's her claim?
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A
She was on Sean Atwood's show about.
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B
Oh, she. Oh, is she the one that talked about bail?
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A
I didn't hear that part.
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B
Yeah, that's her. I know you're talking about. I just heard it. Yes, I heard. I just heard the part of the interview where she claims to be that she was raised in a cult that worships baal, so.
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Oh, yes.
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I don't know.
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A
I thought you said Babel.
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B
Sorry.
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Yeah, she did say fall or fail. You know, that she was a part of that cold. And that also she's Shia LaBeouf's twin sister.
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B
Well, this. That, that's. That seems like it's getting a little outlandish, so. No, I mean, I don't. I would assume she's not Shia LaBeouf's.
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Twin sister, so, you know, not, obviously not an identical twin is what she's claiming. But I was just curious if you had checked her out at all. I. I hadn't really made up my mind fully on her, but just curious.
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I would be skeptical. And the reason is because unfortunately, a lot of times when these, you know, high profile cases come out like this, suddenly everybody is connected and they. Oh, I'm. I was actually. Bill Clinton is my father, and David Rockefeller was present when I was being satanically, ritually abused when I was 5 years old at Disneyland in the underground tunnels. And it's like there's just no way to know or confirm any of that. It's just all hearsay and assertion. And I'm not saying there aren't actual cult people that are abused. It's just that I've been reading and studying. The first ritual book that I read was 2003, and it's William Kennedy's book on ritual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church. That was the first one I read. 2003, I think that's when it came out. It's called Lucifer's Lodge. And he was a journalist, traditional Catholic journalist, who wrote about the PDF scandals up to that time, 2003. And I was, you know, shocked. It was very, very difficult read. I think a lot of people, perhaps right now in 2026, are feeling what I felt in 2003 when I read that book and you know, that kind of stuff, I think you can verify. You can see that that's real. You can. You can look up the court cases. You can look up even mainstream, you know, articles that are still out there on that stuff. But the victims, and I'm not saying they're not victims, it's just that a lot of times, watching this for 20 plus 23 years, they end up shooting themselves in the foot. They become some of the worst proofs of this, if they are victims, because they end up tacking on all this crazy, like, okay, it sounds believable that I was, you know, somebody was messed with by a politician. And then the more they do interviews, they have to make the next interview kind of like Candace's show, more and more outlandish and outrageous, and it becomes just nonsensical. Yes, I saw the aliens in the underground base, and they were using my, you know, fetal tissue to clone the aliens. And. And it gets into crazy. I've been seeing this for 23 years. So there's always somebody who steps into the. I mean, let's take that girl. Who is that woman, Annika. And the first half of the story sounds pretty credible, right? She was on with pbd. And I'm saying she wasn't messed with, but like, the first half of the story sounds credible. And then Patrick bet David says, so wait a minute. You were a New York socialite hanging out with the elites in New York for all these years, and you get invited to David Rockefeller's party, but you had never heard of David Rockefeller? Yes, I had no idea who he was. Never heard of him.
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Him.
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I mean, it's just. That's very. Not, not plausible. Like the most famous New York wealthy elite guy, and you're in the socialite circles and you're about to be trafficked to him, but you've never heard of him. You don't know who the Rockefellers are. It's just bizarre. And then when Annette Lucas. That's it. And then when Patrick B. Davis starts asking her questions, she gets really mad that he's pressing her on the details that don't make sense. Well, I'm sorry. Even if you are legitimately a victim of things, people are going to press you on the details. And it's not everybody else's fault if your details don't make sense. For example, that crazy guy's story that when I was getting pumped in the booty by George Bush Senior, they cut my feet with a centaur, but it was a special knife that doesn't leave scars. I mean nobody's gonna listen to that because it just sounds like. And guess what? What are we learning from media people all the time? People love to. They, they lie all the time. Dupers delight. Have you heard of dupers? A lot people actually get off on duping people. That's a real criminal thing.
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A
A lot of people make up stuff especially with the Rockefellers because remember back in the day there was that guy who said he was the Antichrist and he was David Rockefeller's son. Yes, Rockefeller. Right.
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B
Good point. And that's, that's what partly by the way, makes a lot of this stuff look right again, by the way. We got, we got another hit from Candace today, another greatest hit from Queen Qanda. So let's go over here and I'll show you what I mean. So here's. Yeah, here's the Annette Lucas PBD podcast. And then. Okay, there's no chapters to this.
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A
If you want to show. There you go.
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Her face. I see my daughter. I got an 8 year old girl and a 3 year old girl. I'm not okay with that. There's a part of me that is 8. Naturally my entire life have been very protective since we lived in. You're saying let's have men compete against one.
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Where that has been become the thing. The biggest issue that is not every woman would know that being a mother. Survivors of what I've been through would not really say yes to that.
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I agree. I'm trying to find the part in the interview where she gets mad at him over this.
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This.
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And it's. I know it's. It's later on in it they're alive.
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And I went, who is missing? Those, those children.
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I want more attention to it.
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A
Or they're all singing about pedophilia. I read the lyrics. Here's the lyrics. It says she's just 16 years old and survive. I had an extremely big near death experience.
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I'm disappointed with our politicians that they.
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Don'T spend enough time period of Sometimes it's just boom. When he died it was immediate and I immediately got the memories and there was no question.
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B
Okay so. And but here's another thing that's that's odd too is she didn't know any of this until she heard David Rockefeller dying. That's what it was on in mainstream media and she didn't know who he was. This is it. This. Listen to this. This doesn't make any sense.
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A
Animal. So that's what was being sold. So that's how These powerful men would then fall for me and then I could maybe marry a president. You know, that's possible, whatever it was, but it was really Rockefeller who was behind it.
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B
Okay, so when you're spending time with Rockefeller, you said you didn't know was him until he died in 2017.
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A
Yeah.
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So this is. How is that. This is very unbelievable. How would you be in these circles? And by the way, it's not just that she didn't know it when she was young, allegedly being abused. She says she didn't know who David Rockefeller was until he died in 2017. And then she got back all the memories of the abuse. Okay, that just does not make sense. I'm sorry. Possible, if you're going to these events and these parties and they're mentioning his name, don't they say David Rockefeller?
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The name. I never heard the name. I know him as David.
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B
So they wouldn't say, please help me bring up the, you know, great David Rockefeller.
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A
If I saw his face, I probably would have seen it. Because the thing is, I would have.
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Not done so again. It's not just that. Okay, yeah, maybe when you're a kid you don't know who this person is. She never knew who David Rockefeller was at all her entire life until he died in 2017. And then she had the recovered memories of the abuse. Okay, that just does not make sense.
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A
I honestly don't think that the old elites are kind of that sloppy. They were all, they were all very like. Like guys like Rockefeller, like, they were, they were. Guys like that come from that era where they're kind of unblack nailable.
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B
Yeah. It's not just she, she woke up, it's like she had this flood of memories of who he was, which doesn't make any sense unwell.
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A
If I'd remembered him while I was alive because he got so deep, you understand? I was a child sex slave. I had not known any love and this was the best I got at that time. And because of that I would have maybe there's a lot of parts in me that were very attached to him, that loved him very much. It's part of the reason also why I wouldn't want to necessarily say the name. You know, it feels like this. Look.
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B
But she didn't know the name. So how could she say the name without never. Without ever hearing it or knowing it?
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A
Oil summer too.
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This is where she gets mad at him for pressing this issue, by the.
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Way, believe it or not. To who though? To him. To him. Because there's still parts inside of me that are also attached to him.
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B
And so she still loves him. It doesn't make any sense. And I'm not trying to be mean. It's just like. And obviously you understand that people who are mentally unstable and who are schizophrenic, they latch on to conspiracy theories. When they hear conspiracy theories, they then make them themselves. The.
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The.
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The lead actor in the global targeted individual conspiracy.
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A
I've learned a lot the more I heal. You see, you're talking like somebody who doesn't understand healing very well, because the healing comes from. You know, how is it possible. It's very possible that I had vague memories of an American and. And some positive connection to that. But then there was also the memory of how I had met him with.
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B
Now, remember, it's also possible that she was abused.
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A
Just.
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B
It just may not have been David Rockefeller. Right. I mean, there's a lot of possibilities here. But to use these witness testimonies as proof, it only goes so far until there's any. There's substantial evidence. Otherwise, it's just claims and assertions. And the claims and assertions can be true. But again, people have to understand this when it comes to. Especially these victim survivor people. Like, I've seen this for 23 years. And this is a repeated pattern every few years. Even back in. Going Back to the 2000s, there were people who would come out. I'm an Illuminati sex whistleblower. And I was in the underground base, Arizona Wilder. I went to the underground bases and there was cloning and there was this. There was that. And the first part of it sounds plausible, and then. Then it turns into aliens. Right? No different. So I'm just saying that that ends up shooting in the foot. Anybody any credibility. Did you want to say something, John?
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A
Yeah. It's another thing too, is like. It's like similar when people say, like, they come back as famous people.
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B
Like they.
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A
They were a famous person in another life. Like, they choose. They choose famous people in these instances. Similar with this type of stuff, it's always like, oh, I'm gonna. You know, David Rockefeller obviously doesn't mean much to younger people. But like, for me and you and people older than us, he was like the King supreme, you know, conspiracy guy that everybody looked at. So he's like, chooses.
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B
Yeah, look, if I'm gonna be. If, If I'm gonna have people going up in my butt, it's going to be the most important man in the world.
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A
Right? Or if I'm gonna be somebody else in another life it's gonna be Cleopatra or, you know, Napoleon. It's not gonna be. I came back as, you know, the guy who owns the house two doors down for me, right?
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B
And here's Arizona Wilder being interviewed by David Icke. And what does she say? Oh, it turns out it's the queen's a reptile and all this nonsense.
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A
I started looking into my Life back in 1989. I was starting to have flashes of things, and my life was not what it seemed to be, which is why I started looking into it. The Aryans. The Aryans and the purity of the blood. And what it's all about is that the blood and the minstrel blood contains something that is important for the propagation of this race that is controlling things on this planet.
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B
So it sounds Epsteinish, right? Menstrual blood. Epstein talked about that. Nygaard talked about that. We played the clip last night where Nygaard says, I'll pay you black women for your fetal cells for your aboboed babies, right? And then she goes into the alien races that use the stems. It just gets crazy. So you see what I'm saying? It's like you've got things that you can verify, and then you got the things that turn into this just, you know, David, Ike level years to go again.
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She will be put into the body, the essence of her, and the reptilian form will go. The essence of her will go.
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B
So now it's. Now it's reincarnation and alien reincarnation through reptilian bodies, and it just turns into. Dude, seen it for all these years, man. Over two decades of this.
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Of.
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B
Come on, Maddie, what's up? Or Matt. Excuse me. Matt Scroggins. Matt Scroggins. What's up?
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A
How you doing, Jay?
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B
Yo.
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A
So I don't have a question, but I do have two questions for you.
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B
That's the only thing we accept as questions.
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A
All right, well, let's go. Question number one. Have you seen Moses, the Blackhead, and what do you think about it?
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B
No, I don't. I don't have near me any kind of independent theater that would play that. Ain't no independent theaters in the middle of nowhere, Tennessee Dog. I might. I mean, maybe I can find it online. You know, I am looking forward to. To talking about it. Father Turbo is wanting to do an interview about it. So, you know, I think eventually I'm sure I'll see it, but I've not yet seen it now.
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A
Okay.
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Have you seen it? What did you think?
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A
I have not been able to see it yet. I've talked to a few people in my parish back in Birmingham. I'm a truck driver, so I don't really get a lot of free time.
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B
Hey Jamie, did you make me a coffee before you do your podcast? I'm sorry, I'm. Listen. I'm listening. Go ahead.
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A
Okay. If I have some time in the next day or two, I might try to get to a theater, but I gotta make miles for a bit. But anyways, my second question or question, Excuse me.
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B
For you.
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A
What do you think about Ryan Dawson?
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B
Not a huge fan of Ryan Dawson. Honestly, I mean I tried to, you know, debate, we tried to have a debate on atheism and it didn't go well for him. And I don't, I don't think he's ever talked to me since then. Have you seen the debate?
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A
I have not checked out the debate.
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B
It's, it's funny, it's pretty, it's an amusing debate. But also, you know, he tends to, you know, just kind of hop on and align himself with all of the Muslim influencers and it's, you know, it's just kind of, to me there's a lot of red flags there where I just don't even pay much attention to it.
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A
I got you. So I brought it up because he was on a podcast with Clint Russell that dropped maybe today or maybe yesterday.
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B
Yeah, the libertarian dude I was on, I was on Luke Radowski's podcast with Clint, I'm familiar with him.
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A
Yeah, he brought up interesting idea on why the Epstein files are dropping now. And his theory was basically that. So Trump basically ran his 2024 campaign like very heavily on releasing, you know, JFK, RFK and SD files. And his speculation was that, you know, because Trump's like major financial base or his campaign was bunch of zio people that they were basically behind the scenes like, you idiot, what are you doing? You're not gonna do that. And he's like, I'll just, you know, run it by people. He kind of speculated that the bullet was like that, you know, raised his head and 24 was like kind of socio people telling him to get in line. He gets into office, he assumes he can just do the thing, that public event with all those influencers with the binders and then kind of sweep it under the rug and that the reason it's happening now is that that shot like basically his pig headedness and the campaign about this and you know, shining a light on it, basically just rent his face up and then got in like he's not doing anything related to that stuff or his base, like the way you thought he said he was going to. So they get pissed. The Democrats basically see, you know, red meat. They can kind of jump on to, like, run against them because they're brands in the toilet. And then you have Thomas Massie, who's probably just. I mean, I don't think he's the most perfect person ever, but relatively virtuous for being a congressman and just kind of runs the media. And, like, press is really hard on that. And it's like, basically because of kind of those factors, the files are getting released. So it's not like it's a, you know, a part of, like a globalist plan or, you know, I mean, I don't think that.
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B
I don't think they wanted this information out there. That's why they're running cover. I mean, you see, you know, Netanyahu, Ben Shapiro, Bongino, like all of these top people are saying, it's nothing, don't look at it. You know, the UK police are saying, don't share this information or look at it. Remember, they did the same thing with WikiLeaks. Remember the. Was it the. The Acosta guy went on CNN and said, it is illegal to look at WikiLeaks? Well, they don't do that when it's a fake leak. I mean, you know, in my experience, usually over conspiracy theorizing is wrong. Sometimes. Sometimes it's a, you know, deep, deep, deep, weird thing. But most of the time it's. It's not that deep. It's like if you see all these, you know, Zio people running point for it, trying to cover it up. They didn't want that. Like, why would they.
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A
Right, exactly.
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Why are they all saying. I mean, Laura Loomers are saying he. There's an email where Epstein says he doesn't like Israel at all, therefore he's not working for Israel. The email says, I don't have. I don't want a meeting in Israel. Let's say he doesn't work. It's so stupid, right?
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A
Yeah, it's like. It's like the idea that Israel's not involved with this when looking at the totality of how much they come up and, you know, there's.
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The entire mainstream media is saying in unison, it's, It's Russia and he works for Putin. And none of them have covered or mentioned anything about the real issues, which we've been covering for five, six days straight. A week straight.
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A
No, it. No what he's. What it is, Jay is what you don't understand is that it's actually, that's a, like that email that he's going back and forth with Zielinski on how to like basically screw over Putin. That's just. They knew before the Epstein files were going to come out, this is going to come out. So that email was set up to run cover for him actually being a Russian.
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B
So now they're, now they're QTARDs again. Right? That's QTARD level argumentation. I'm serious. Because every time Q would get debunked, they would say, oh, this one was in here on purpose to make it look like it's being debunked and Trump's leading people off of the trail and yeah, it's just totally like anybody with common sense should be able to like get the basics here, right? I mean, I understand people don't know the history of, of Nathan Rothchild and Waterloo. And you know, I get it, people don't know the background. They don't have a context. But like, come on, man, like a lot of this stuff is not even that. Look here, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz. Epstein is not working for Israel. Ben Shapiro, no ties with is. Or Epstein works for North Korea and Russia. I mean, this is so retarded. This should totally discredit these people. But I mean, man, we got really dumb people out here. Half of the country, man, is like SSRI medicated, just mind bombed zombies. And if you don't believe me, look at the people that are supporting antifa. Look at the people protesting ice. I mean, they're, they're actually, what's the biblical term? Sons of Belial. I mean, they're legit sons of belial out here. Dr. Thomas Raspberry. What's up, dog?
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A
Hey, Jay.
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B
Yo.
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Hey, I have a question. I'm sorry, I wanted to ask something that's going to change the topic just a little bit. It's anything a couple of young men at both at church and just in general in my life who are coming across real problems with women. And it's starting to be sort of like the same kind of presentation whenever they approach me and ask me for advice, like either they're young and they're talking about women who kind of fit the same profile like they are. They're looking for women who are under 35. They always find these women who are into tarot and they believe in, you know, New age nonsense. They're far left. They left home when they were 18 and you know, call their dad a, you know, essay or whatever. And they sort of have these, it's almost like they have a narrative that's like, like one personality. And it's just sort of like copied and pasted on just about every young woman who's like under 35. And I noticed also that it kind of stapled to that. It's like Democratic party is almost 2 to 1 now of college educated women. And I just worry about young men now who are coming into the church and just trying to find somebody and they're, you know, having, having these sorts of issues and I don't, I don't know what to say. I mean, I, I think it might come from like social media influencing.
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But yes, the, the last hope, as I've been saying for dudes, is you're gonna have to go to the local evangelical Christian coffee shop or perhaps even your Starbucks or whatever, and you're gonna have to take your orthodox study Bible, this thing right here, and you're gonna go and you're gonna sit in your Christian Baptist coffee house and you're gonna sit and read your orthodox study Bible and you're going to strike up conversations with the Baptist girls and you're going to convert them to orthodoxy. That's your best hope. You're not going to get chicks on Tick Tock or witch talk or whatever. Like the, that's the only avenue left is like if you're in the Bible belt and if you're not, like, you can, can still find these enclaves where. Yeah, that's, you're just gonna have to convert into evangelical.
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Yeah, I, I, I just think it's frightening.
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I had, it is frightening and it is that bad. This is what boomers don't understand.
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Yeah.
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Just get out there and work hard and get a job and show that girl, buy her some flowers. They don't, they, they, I hate men, dude. They're already brainwashed to hate men in so. Yeah, well, somebody said convert a Roman Catholic girl. I mean, that's possible, but I mean Roman Catholic girls are probably a little, I don't know who would be. I would, I would think you probably do better. I mean, look, I live in the Bible Belt. I have relatives I met, you know, Baptist girls that are good girls relatively speaking, compared to the rest of the degenerate society. So I think that's your best bet. I don't know, I don't know what else to tell you. You, I mean, where you go, where else are you going to go? Tinder? Does that still exist? I don't even know.
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No, I, I think it does. They talk to me about, you know, getting on these websites that are, you know, still dating websites or something. They can never find somebody because all the women are, you know, approaching people who are rich or 6 foot, 300 inches or something like that. Like, it's, it's like the women themselves have unrealistic expectations. And I just, I, I don't know. I don't understand, like, where this is coming from and how I can advise.
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It's, it's, it's social media. You're absolutely right about this. It's from social media. You're absolutely right. Social media has become a very powerful, potent brainwashing operation. Exactly what the Silicon Valley oligarchical overlords wanted it to be. Be. It's a feedback loop and that's, that's what it was designed to be. But, yeah, I don't know what to say other than that. Like, you know, it's the best I could come up with. I'm sorry.
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It's been great in the culture the past 25 years as well. And, and if it's cultural, then it gets passed along like a virus.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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And so women, women talking to women, passing that stuff around, if they don't have any grounding in anything Christian or they think Christianity or, you know, anything like that is stupid, then people gravitate towards a form of spirituality that is the direct opposite of that.
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Yeah, I have, I haven't raised anybody in a long time, but, I mean, I know that human nature is still human nature. So there's still going to be some baseline things that are still going to be true with women, but you're also dealing with pretty heavy, you know, social media brainwashing. So I'm sure it is tough. The force. What's up, man? I'm you.
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Hey, what's going on, Jay? Honor to talk to you, man. I've been a fan of you on infowars for a while. Here's my deal, man. Like, what are we doing? What are we talking about? First of all, I just posted in the, the comment section, who did covid19 Forbes article cost us 24 trillion dollars. We're bankrupt. Trump printed 8 trillion from COVID Who did covet19. That's pretty important right now. We have smoking guns. I just came out of the recent testing files. Not one person was talking about Jay. I'm gonna offer you the story of the century on a silver platter. I've given you all the info with the links in the comments. It was Nathan Wolf. Who, who headed the global. The Eco Health that created a virus that gave them an excuse to print 24 trillion dollars for the Rothschild bankers.
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Now are you, are you saying is, is this the, the one that Epstein was colluding with and saying, hey, let's put pressure on the Trump administration, is that you're talking about?
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Nathan Wolf is the virologist who, who headed the Eco Health Global Viral Project. He works for Eco Health, DARPA and Bill Gates Foundation. Now Eco Health former VP Andrew Huff, he was on Alex Jones. I mean, he had a CIA guy or something come to his house and try to like scare him or shoot him. He was the guy who revealed that Peter Dasak of Eco Health told him he's working with CIA RFK Jr. On Jimmy Dore said, yeah, the CIA did it. Well, yeah, Dennis Carroll of usaid, he's on the Global Viral project as well. But, but how do I know that Nathan Wolf headed it? Well, he was boys with Epstein. We have the email where he says let's meet to plot. That's in the comment section. I have the link to it as well. So they, they planned it. In 2010, 2011. You have Boris Nikolic, Bill Gates top science advisor. He's at the WEF meeting. He's, he's there in 2010, in January. We have the smoking gun email. It's in the comment section. I posted it. He said, let's set you up Epstein, he's emailing Epstein, his boy. Let's set you up with Nathan Wolf, this virologist they're planning. So let me read the exact text. So Boris Nikolic, Bill Gates tops. And remember, there's the famous photo of, from 2011, I think of Bill Gates, Boris Nikolaik Epstein and then, and then Jess Staley, right? The JP Morgan banker, the Rothschild banker and somebody else. What were they planning in 2010? What were they all just chilling there, meeting about? It was COVID 19. Now we know this from the files we have. Let's see, Sunday, January 3rd. I'm looking at the email in the comment section right now. From January, Jeffrey Epstein to Bill Gates science advisor Boris Nicolic. What time Monday? I have Nathan Wolf, the virologist here. It might be beneficial for you or Alice to tell him what you guys are up to. So what the hell was was Boris Nicolic, Bill Gates science advisor and all these guys up to? Well, they were planning COVID 19. And then we have an email from Nathan Wolf again. The virologist Jeffrey Epstein in 2012. You and you and New York City, this Weekend meet up to plot. I mean, we have the smoking gun emails. This is the guy who headed the Eco Health global viral project that created Covid. Now, as you'll see in my infographic, he began working with Wuhan Bat Lady Shi Zang Lee. Now, her job was simple, to go out and find wild bat coronaviruses out in caves in China that would never evolve in a million years to infect us. But as Dr. Richard Ebright of Rutgers pointed out, I mean, in 2018, you got Peter Dasick, who told Huff he's working with the CIA. He says, oh, he proposes to darpa, let's graft on a, an activated fear and cleavage site at the S1, S2 junction of a wild back coronavirus that would never evolved to infect humans. They did that. So in 2018, you propose it. 2019, that exact virus comes out. That's what E. Wright said in the great article by the Intercept. And, and Nathan Wolf began working with Wuhan Bat Lady. It's on the Wuhan Institute of Virologist own site. It's right there in the infographic. In 2013. So they planned Covid. They wanted a virus that they could, you know, manipulate to do whatever they wanted. This one killed a lot of old people. People, I mean, anyone over 70 or 80 had like a 4% death rate. If you were healthy under 50, it barely affected you, especially if you had high vitamin D. It only killed people with low vitamin D. That's why Fauci never mentioned it. It's just. So we have, we have the biggest story, and I'm just sitting here stunned, why not? One major influencer has hopped onto this, the biggest story of ever. 24. I mean, Forbes article, 24 trillion. This cost the world. This bankrupted the whole world. But, but not only that, just, you know, the deaths from the, from the, the virus itself of old people and of the vaccines that affected males under 40. Specifically, we have the evidence that specifically hurt them. It hurt us. Because I'm a male under 40. They were coming from me. And so when they declare war on me, that's when I had to wake up and say, what the is going on here? When I have Jeffrey Epstein's best friend who thanked EPSTEIN in his 2011 book Viral Storm, where he predicted, oh, everything that he was about to do and he thanks Epstein and then there he is with Galaine Maxwell, the time 100. But yeah, he, he is one of the top 100 influential. He created COVID 19. So how is Nathan Wolf still walking around and not in prison? And how is anyone involved in this not in prison because Trump bankrupted the country and then he printed just trillions for the bankers. Because the other. Because they released this in September. September 12th was when Wuhan took their virus. Coronavirus lab made sequences offline. They released it 9, 11. I'm pretty sure of that. We know it came out in September. All the data shows it. Former CDC director Robert Redfield 7. Yeah, a lot of funny things happened in September of 2019. The Wuhan lab went under military lockdown, redid their event system, deleted the sequences. The virus came out. He says it and funny. Another funny thing happened in September 2019. There was a repo crisis in the Federal Reserve like they. They essentially went through. And Liberty Savage does a great job analyzing it on X. We were going through another 202008 collapse and so they needed an excuse to print trillions to keep this fiat BS system going. This Rothschild money system you got. You stay small. A secret to the Federal Reserve talks about how the Rothschilds installed the Federal Reserve in 2013 with their representatives. Of course they don't. This isn't Game of Thrones where they go around and put flags on the ground. House Rothschild, we just took you over. No, now they use agents. Now they use representatives. J.P. morgan, that's who. You stay small. And these sites.
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No, I saw. I started that two nights ago. That J.P. morgan was a Rothschild front.
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Yeah, absolutely. So I'm just wondering. We have the biggest story ever right now. No one's taking it. No one's taking it.
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Well, I just heard this. So this is new. This is. Okay, chill out, dude. Appreciate it, man. This is new to me. So all of this is breaking by the minute and all I know is what pops up at the top of my screen. So I don't. I don't see this until I search Search this very topic. So definitely looks like you can see here that they're meeting. Definitely is talking about just Lane and Jeffrey. I have Nathan the virologist here. USAID metabiota. This one says. I wish they would link the. The. Here's the link here. We'll see. Here's one about him. So that one's real. Here is. Let's meet up to plot. Yep, looks real.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'll mention this to Alex because. Yeah. By the way, what makes you a pandemic expert? How exactly does a person do you get a PhD in pandemics? Like. Like my PhD in CIA. What's up? I. Tonya, what's up?
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Hello.
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Yeah. What's up? What's on your mind?
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Hi. Well, first to address what Obi Wan just said is that I feel like what Trump talks about constantly is that things don't appear in the media and they don't break the story because it's dangerous to it. It's against the media's own interests, which is connected to what I wanted to say about kind of.
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He's talking about alternative media, what you.
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Were talking about when I came in, which was like, the point in which these testimonies are even, you know, the accusations become.
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But I mean, to say what becomes. What are you talking about? What? What?
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Well, like, when it comes, like, David Ike, who obviously is full of. He does it because he genuinely believes the. But to insulate himself from what's true.
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Okay.
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And I think when you have, you know, these children who can be three years old and are being bombarded with incredibly, you know, even just violent imagery at that age is, like, connected to whoever it was that was abusing them.
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It's a.
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It's kind of harsh to say. I mean, if they think that there were aliens involved, they could have just been around adults that were talking about immigrants.
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Well, I mean, a lot of these. No, a lot of these that can't.
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Be tracked because they don't have documents.
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Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. I mean, a lot of these interviews don't say that, though. They don't say maybe this is illegal immigrants. A lot of these interviews, the women go on to have these really outlandish wild stories about it being actual aliens and underground bases. Again, I've been seeing this for 23 years.
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Door.
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What's up, Guys? If you would hit, like, and share, it's open Forum. Feel free to call in and offer your questions, disagreements, insights. Door. What's up? I'm mute.
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Yeah, hi. Can you hear me?
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Huh?
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Is it okay if I talk about the Iran stuff with you guys here?
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Anything's open for.
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Okay. I. I'm. I'm Iranian. Myself and my parents and myself, we've been following all the information, like, coming from Iran, but I noticed that there's like an entirely different. Probably social media algorithms or whatever. It's. It's, like, completely split the discourse on what's happening in Iran. It's like, on one hand, you have the leftists saying it's a Zionist color revolution. You know, they hate Israel. They're looking at Iran as if it's like Palestine 2.0. They're, you know, the whole poor little Muslims and all that stuff. And on the other hand, there's right wingers who are saying, you know, it's a Jewish color revolution. You know, I hate the Jews looking at Iran and thinking, I don't want to be in a forever war. And, and to be fair, that that's more fair than the leftist. It's probably true to, you know, point. But the thing is that us Iranians are looking at it and we're like, this whole discussion is being subverted. Iran's like, just to put a little bit of a. Of background here, Iran's secret intelligence agency has, like, a huge online presence and they have a lot of people in the media, a lot of, like, fake journalists who act and pretend. Like feminists and communists.
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Yeah, every. Every country has the exact same thing.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. And one of the, like, the best examples that I can give right now that's happening right now in Iran is they had this like, milk toast rapper named, like, Too Much or something. He got thrown into prison and now he's talking on, like, social media inside the prison. Right. It's like a Potemkin Village sort of thing. Right. Like, at the same time, there is testimony from other prisoners in that same prison who are saying they're like, killing us behind the scenes and stuff like that. But then, like, there's additional factor with Iran where, like, we have, like, a lot of fake critics. You know, they're whitewashing what the regime is doing. They're shifting it into typical, like, Western talking points of anti Semitism, women's rights, feminism, blah, blah, blah, Democracy, democracy, all of this stupid. As if, like, those are the real problems. Sorry, what was that?
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I didn't say anything.
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Oh, okay. And, you know, they're not talking about the actual things that are happening meanwhile, you know, because we're talking to our relatives over, like, WhatsApp and stuff like that. Apparently they're monitoring. Monitoring it a lot, too. So we're usually using, like, code words. I don't know if that's necessary, but we're very nervous here. You know, they're talking about things that are happening, like mass rapes, mass murders, stuff like this just happening everywhere right now. The whole stuff about, like, the body bags, I, I know that showed up in, like, the propaganda. Pro Iran propaganda, not the regime, but the people that that stuff is true. That's actually happening. They are even saying that you have to, you know, pay for the bullet and stuff like this. It's, it's, it's anyways just to get the body back is what I mean, to bury it. But, you know, they're using fake prisoners to make it seem like that's not happening. They're using fake protests to make it seem like it's not happening. And the one thing, and I, I don't imagine that this, what I'm saying right now will change anything because I think Iranians are kind of like too stupid to get their heads out of 1970s level activism. They think that if they appeal to the media and they say, oh, oh, I want Western talking points. I love. You know, maybe if I cram enough Western talking points into a short interview, the Trump is going to send a bajillion missiles and people over here to free us from the regime. They're stupid. They don't get it. I don't even, like, they weren't even that violent in the last protest, which is, frankly speaking, an indictment on them.
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But, but, well, yeah, appreciate that. Yeah, I don't really know what to say or I don't have a whole lot of input there. I mean, clearly the, I mean, I don't, I think Shia Islam is an insane cult, but also I don't want a regime change in war. So I, I don't really, I don't know what to say there. Right wing. What's up? I mean, I think the, the main point here is that obviously the Trump administration is going to do what Netanyahu wants. So I think we all know that. So, cats trader, what's up? And isn't it interesting timing too, right? Like all the Epstein stuff is a week straight time to bomb Iran. What's up?
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Hey. Hey. What's.
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Okay, what's on your mind?
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Yeah, what's on my mind? This is, I guess.
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Can you speak up? I can barely hear you.
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Oh, my apologies. Is this any better now?
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A little better. Go ahead.
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Okay, so on my mind is what I would hope would be on everybody's mind is of course being mindful that you're on YouTube. It's babies. It's the babies. It's the next generation. It's the fact that when we really move past, when you really move past Iran, the is not real. The money, the etc.
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Etc.
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This is a spiritual war when really people want to get to like doing their own research or using some form of.
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Of God. I should, I shouldn't say that, but discernment. Using their discernment within themselves to get.
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To the answer themselves. Because now we're in the age of.
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The influencer, in the age of the complete blindness. The age of the Face Lord. Dude. Age of the face Lord. Sorry. Go Ahead, just making a joke. I'm making jokes. Go ahead.
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Yes, and, and the issue is that if I might say, yeah, briefly I was in Ian the Fed Carol's chat before joining yours and the, the npc. NPC retardation, my friend, of, of people.
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I could not believe it.
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And that was the, I guess second conversation I personally had today where people didn't even know these dumps had happened these million times.
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Oh really?
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No, they hadn't, they had no clue. And I said I thought they were joking and I was like, what are you living under another planet?
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Yeah, and then I showed them the.
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BBC news etc, CNN talking about it. I'm not just a schizo retard.
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They are eating baby la la la. Because obviously I, I started off with this.
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And so the issue obviously to, to.
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A long story short here is that.
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Yes, of course there are all these things going on. I'm sure you know, you're very versed in these types of, of things and yeah, it's very difficult now. Yeah, I believe with all of the symbolic nature of it. We are very much in these end times. It seems like this fourth turning moon cycle, sun cycle, democratic demon cratic control. We are coming into this level of sun God enlightenment.
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All right, appreciate that. It was getting a little too new Agey there for me. But, but look, a lot of you guys over here on this channel, the reason you guys, the reason that you're not vibing well with the low IQ chatters out there is because you like books.
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You, you do got too many doors locking books.
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Reading books is a very cheap way to, I guess entertain. I wouldn't call it entertainment because my brain, brain is far too advanced. I'm too smart to read. I'm gonna sit there and go, smart people read.
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No, I need action.
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I need constant chaos in my life to feel content.
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I need to be driving a supercar.
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And fighting a bunch of hoes and champagne and going crazy.
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I can't just sit there.
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Oh, oh, and the pirate on the boat, like just for, for people with slow brains. Yes, reading is for people with slow brains. That's your problem. Reading is for slow brain people. Did you know that? That's why I played. What? John.
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Another thing too.
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John, can you talk? Are you too slow brain from the books you read, are you able to talk?
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I am not able to talk because I read the book. Another thing that, that, that the guy who was just on here. One of the problems is we have gone from like a world in the 20th century of Mass Media, mass communication to, you know, a lot of people thought, you know, not, not you and me, but a lot of people thought like, hey man, when the Internet comes in, man, we're gonna take control of everything. And they don't realize that they, they themselves built their own digital partitions in their, in their own isolated universe. So whereas there's, there's always going to be good or bad things and it's not, it's not like an either or, it's a, both end. But it seems like they're, they're succeeding with, with partitioning off certain amounts of information that would get out into normieville.
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Right?
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Because like, like you and I were talking about the other day was like I, I was somewhere and Fox News was on and like the, the information that's going on, on the interwebs is nowhere in the vicinity of.
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I know Fox News, I mentioned these things to a relative and the relative was not aware of this information coming out for a week straight. So they have successfully compartmentalized through the many, many outlets that if you're not on X, you're not seeing this or perhaps elements of YouTube. Right. You're not even seeing this information. And for Boomerdom, they don't even know that there's all this Epstein dump, which is absolutely crazy because this is the biggest news story or series of news stories, all of these emails, battles together is the biggest news story of our lifetime. And according to Boomerdom, it doesn't exist. And they're listening to Ben Shapiro say that it's North Korea. Utterly ridiculous. Utterly stupid. Totally. We're getting different realities. And that's what John is talking about is that the Internet and the tech overlords have been successful probably through the algorithm as well. I don't understand or know how this algorithmic censorship goes down, but they're able to I guess control what people are seeing. So that, that's essentially making, I'm not saying ontologically different realities, but in people's minds there's totally different worlds. In the boomers minds, there's not even an Epstein issue right now, which is absolutely insane.
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It's different. It's not like, like you were saying, it's not an ontological reality, but it's like different perceptive reality. Your perception is, you know that Kissinger quote about perception? That's the world we're living in.
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Yeah.
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Is that, is that perception is reality. And like, like I was saying, you have these digital partitions for certain segments and, and going back to the guy who was Asking earlier if you're a creature of habit, which we all are. I, I, Unless you're cognitive, cognitively aware of, like, I'm not gonna go to the same website all the time. I'm gonna, you know, get a different VPN or whatever somebody's gonna do. You're a creature of habit, and that's how they know you. And then through the repetition of what you're doing, you become more predictable, and then they feed you more stuff. That's the loop.
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Yeah. The first night that we started covering this, after my live stream, I went and checked what mainstream media was saying, and my tweet got absolutely buried because I, I said the exact same thing that I saw two days later. Thousands of people saying, I'm going to show you. If I didn't get rid of it. Sometimes I get rid of the tweets that don't get it, that don't go anywhere. But I went to the front page of Drudge Report and it was saying that here it is, look at this. So February 1st, here's my tweet, the greatest leftist disinformation post of all time. And I'm saying that because Drudge Report is essentially Democratic Party mouthpiece now, and they put up right away, bombshell, Epstein, bankroll by kgb. And then this tweet got no traction. And then thousands of tweets days later saying the same thing got millions of views. So, I mean, I'm not saying, like, that's intentionally censoring me. I don't know, it could be. But, I mean, we just, you know, we don't know how the magic of this algorithmic censorship actually works. Because, I mean, some of my posts this week did really well. I got 250, 300,000, you know, impressions on some of these, but a lot of them got absolutely nothing, which is really weird. So, you know, I don't know how it could just be random or it's actually kind of suppressed, you know, who knows? But what is interesting is a little reminder. I meant to show you guys this, and I'm not gonna play the whole clip just to play a little bit of it, but I just remembered that, you know, everybody's talking today about the possibility that Epstein's still alive. I don't have any set opinion on that. I've not seen anything convincing necessarily to that ex. To that degree yet, but nothing would surprise me. You know, they do have the ability to, if they can go down and exfiltrate Maduro and arrest him, although they can't arrest any of these people. So Maduro can be arrested. Who I'm sure he is a socialist scumbag. But, like, what about all these scumbags? Oh, none of these people can be arrested. We don't. That they're all blacked out and protected for national security. But we can go exfiltrate some socialist leader, which is. Which is retarded. Right? So reminder too. I did interview. I did multiple podcasts with the most famous living hitman. Okay, so Sammy the Bull. I know Sammy the Bull. We've had had many, many conversations. And one of the first things I wanted to ask him was, do you think Epstein killed himself? And we had multiple discussions. This just one clip of the five or six lengthy podcasts that we did. So here's what Sammy the Bull said. And the reason that he matters is because he stayed in the exact same supermax. So Sammy spent, I think he said, several months in that supermax prison. He said, he claims it's the same area that Epstein was in. So is it plausible that he killed himself? Let's see Sammy's opinion on this.
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Why Clinton can do what he's doing. He can just keep his mouth shut and. Excuse me, He's. He committed suicide in jail. I'm sure that that is a. Another thing that the Deep State has buried beyond belief that we can't find. So they hold the two correction officers that were supposed to be watching him. Him. They. They fire them, they discipline them.
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By the way, this clip is from a year ago. And YouTube buried this clip when I put it up.
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But. But that's it. That's as far as the investigation went. But that's. That's a total joke, Epstein. That's a joke. Sammy did time at mcc, right in that. In that same area in the hole I was in, the same exact area. And there's cameras, there's gods, there's every. Everything under the sun. There's so many questions with that now. He had a Sally, So a lot of times when you're in the hole in mcc, the place is packed. You got to sell it. He had a salary. Why would they take his cellie out? So now he's alone. I mean, this is so set up, it's crazy who were there all the time. There's always gods, even late at night and they fall asleep. That's. They run shifts that they walk every so often, you know, that the whole thing is. So again, if it's all. Then he didn't commit suicide, just killed him. No, I agree. I don't think he did.
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Now, if you watch the clip, he goes on to say that it is very difficult in that supermax to actually unlive yourself, because if you try to do that, that they will strap you down and force feed you. So they don't let you try to unalive yourself in the supermax. And he says typically what happens is people that try to do that, they do it through not eating right. So they do like a, you know, prisoners fast or whatever hunger strike. And that, he says, ends up usually not working because they'll. They'll force feed you too if you try it that way. So he says if most of the time the prisoners have to resort to hunger strikes, then how less likely is it that he was able to obtain implements to, quote, hang himself? It's just, he said it's very unlikely. He said it would be very, very difficult. He made it. He. I couldn't tell if he's joking or being serious, but he said he actually tried to get out of that supermax. He said that it was very difficult. He failed. He wasn't able to sneak out of it. But, I mean, maybe he was joking. I don't know when he said that, but quite a few people were sharing what I thought was probably was obviously an AI image. They were like, look, we found Epstein walking around Tel Aviv. It's like, come on, dude, that's obviously fake. But then again, they wouldn't be flooding the Information Zone with all this fake crap. I mean, there's not that much fake stuff. Actually, to be honest with you, I'm actually surprised there's not more really, really silly fake stuff flooding the zone, given how wild this is. I also suspect they might think that the population is debased and demoralized enough that they don't care, really, that this is out. I mean, I don't. That's me speculating. But I mean, I see people who basically are saying that who cares? It doesn't matter anymore. Who cares about Epstein? Boomers are saying, who cares? We're tired of talking about Epstein. They're just repeating what the mainstream media is saying. But it's like you don't care about the biggest news story of the freaking century. I mean, Epstein, you've got emails of just Lane being asked to be on the Shadow 911 Commission. I never even heard of a Shadow 911 Commission. I read multiple books on the Big Nine event. So, I mean, I don't know what that is, but like, like this should. You know, 10 years ago, assuming that the media was a real fifth column, you know, the whole people accountable or whatever. Fifth Estate, I should say. It's more. It's supposed to be a fifth estate. It's actually a fifth column of subversion. But, you know, I mean, media, the mainstream media is pretty much dead. And basically what happened was all of the mainstream media people basically just became alternative media people. And these are all the spin doctors and the artists and the people that are like, like turning it into just total ridiculous nonsense or covering up. Ben Shapiro's probably the greatest example of all. I mean, this over and over and over, you know, doubling down, saying the stupidest stuff. I cannot believe anyone still follows these people. But then I have to say, well, people are dumb. I mean, like that one caller said it. We've really got people that are super dumbed down. Cotel, just a stream the other day, and assuming the statistics are right, Kotel was saying that there's people going into college who can't compose sentences and have never read a book. Now how do you get to college without ever having read a book? I don't know. But you've also got Tate over here saying reading is for idiots. I mean, I don't, I. I mean, look, I deal on a daily basis with a lot of people, people, and that's through, you know, my own little media stuff and other media outlets that I work with that are huge. Meeting a lot of people, dealing with a lot of comments. I get, you know, a lot of emails and dms. Now we've had years of people calling in and we have a pretty high IQ audience over here, probably the highest IQ audience on the web. And I gotta say, and I don't mean this to be, you know, elitist or rude, but people are, man, they're super freaking dumb. They don't have any discernment. It's sad. And they fall for the same stuff over and over and over and over and they're. Yeah, exactly. They're relying on AI and chat GPT now and that's making them even dumber. It's crazy, dude. So we're going like full dystopia. And I don't mean to be black pilled or I'm not trying to black pill you guys because, you know, if you're not super dumb or if you're not just totally degenerate, like, like there's a lot of positive things happening, there's a lot of good information coming out, ways that you can position yourself even in these bad times to, you know, actually, by God's grace, still have A very good, you know, wholesome life, even in the midst of all this bad stuff. Noah, what's up? The topics are open. Pretty much anything you guys want to talk about, feel free to disagree, Feel free to offer a topic of debate. If you want to challenge me on something, if you want to ask a question, if you want to get reading recommendations, you name it. It's up to you. What's up, Noah? Hello? You there? Lucas? What's up, Lucas? I'm you, Lucas, unmute. Aries. What's up?
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You know, a lot of times, two. Jay, is the. Is like with something like this happens with the Epstein thing. It black pills people even more.
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B
Right.
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A
It has the opposite effect. But then, like, they get to the point to where you know, because nothing ever happens. So then they're like, nothing ever happens. It's not going to change anything. I'm. I've been there myself, so I'm sure that there's a lot of people who know that this, you know, has happened, but they're like, yeah, nothing's ever going to happen. Nothing's ever going to change. But as if that's up to us anyways.
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Yeah. Aries, what's up, man?
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A
Hey, what's up, Jay? Sorry if y' all can't hear me. I got the flu this morning, so I'm kind of on flu medication. But I was wanting to talk to you about this new term, woke.
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B
Right.
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A
Because I've been seeing a lot of the Zionist side has started to call people who just aren't on board with Trump hiding. Hiding the faces of suspects in this drop. And I was just wondering what your thoughts were on that.
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Yeah, it's all from. It's all from James.
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A
Aren't they the ones like that own Hollywood?
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It's from James. It's from James Lindsay. So of course. Yeah, we've talked about that for a long time. And I asked James Lindsay about five times to debate, four or five times, and of course he said no every single time. Do you still host with Lord Voldemort? Yes. Here it is from seven days ago right here. Renee, what's up, By the way? Are we all gonna overlook who's really Jeff Stein's handler? Are we all seriously going to overlook this when it's right in our face? What's up, dude? Renee, I'm you.
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A
Hey, Jay, thank you. Well done on all the breakdown of Epstein release. My question this evening, please, is what are your thoughts on the future of the Vatican? I mean, via Gladio, via the Vatican bank, and really getting out in the public now. I'm really curious to hear your thoughts on its future. Thank you.
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B
Well, I mean, you know, I don't really have any different analysis other than what we've, we've commented on and covered for many, many, many years, which is that the Vatic continues to be 100% on board with the World Economic Forum Davos globalist agenda. You have since Vatican ii Nostra aetate teaching the radical ecumenist line, which is a violation of the exclusivity of the gospel. In John 14:6, you have the Vatican being at a geopolitical level, compromised with gaudium espes, teaching Marxist Fabian socialism explicitly. And so we shouldn't be surprised that ever since the 1960s in Vatican II, the Vatican has continued that official dogmatic policy, even to the point of working hand in hand, hand in glove with the intelligence agencies. The, the. I'm making a joke, obviously, with this image here, but he actually did visit the island and was reportedly getting it on. We don't know how. Right. I'm talking about Stephen Hawking here, but yeah, the future of the Vatican is obviously to 100% continue on as it's a function area of the octopus, an element.