Jay'sAnalysis: Freemason Hit Squads, CIA “EXTREMIST” MOMS & The Great SCHISM ｜ Jay Dyer & Tim Gordon with Frank ("Quite Frankly")
Date: April 1, 2026
Episode Overview
This episode brings together Jay Dyer (Jay'sAnalysis), Tim Gordon (Rules for Retrogrades), and host Frank for a multifaceted, unscripted discussion. They dive into current headlines about Freemasonic crime in France, the overlap between secret societies and intelligence agencies, church schisms and just war theory, recent revelations about internal CIA documents targeting traditional family models, and the deeper social engineering shaping the West. The trio closes with a frank, respectful exchange about the possibility of Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox reunification.
The conversation is digressive, humorous, and intellectually driven, with each speaker offering sharp historical and theological insights while reacting to breaking news, audience questions, and one another.
Key Topics & Discussion Points
1. French Masonic Lodge Hit Squads & Intelligence Agency Overlaps
[14:29–22:50]
- Headline: 22 members of a Paris Masonic lodge stand trial for murder, attempted murder, and organized crime—accused of running “hit squads” including police officers and military.
- Jay sees this as further proof of his longstanding thesis: "What Freemasonry is and how it functions really overlaps with intelligence agencies. It overlaps with the state."
“Masonry is like a tiered fraternal structure that only really raises people to the higher levels to do these types of things...Blue Lodge is not gonna be functioning at this high of a capacity. But..." — Jay (19:00–21:21)
- Tim reinforces that not all Masons are in the loop—low-level members are intentionally kept ‘unaware.’
“Secret societies are organized in such a fashion to cover up the important stuff...basic American fat suburbs dorks...that’s part of what’s meant to disarm you.” — Tim (23:16)
- P2 Lodge in Italy used as historical precedent for Masonic infiltration and powerful, subversive networks.
2. Church Infiltration & Schism — P2, the Papacy, Orthodoxy
[22:50–26:09]
- Tim discusses the evidence for the P2 lodge infiltrating the Roman Curia in the 20th century:
“There's a lot of evidence that, in my view, is mounting that P2 actually did...surround the Pope with men who would do expressly anti-Catholic things.” — Tim (25:24)
3. Just War Theory and the Middle East (‘Greater Israel Project’)
[26:09–35:16]
- The hosts analyze ongoing Middle Eastern conflicts under the lens of “just war” Christianity.
- Jay describes current U.S. policy against Iran as being dictated by Israeli expansionist interests, referencing Oded Yinon, “A Clean Break,” and the post-9/11 Pentagon plan:
“This is really just the Greater Israel Project...America will do whatever we want them to do...” — Jay (27:31–30:23)
- Tim delineates the Thomistic ‘six prongs’ of just war—arguing that the Middle East wars fail almost every criterion (just cause, last resort, proportionality, likely success, etc.)
“Just wars can be great things, and the war in Iran so clearly is not...one’s a fail, two’s a fail...if recent American neoconservative Jewish wars have proven anything, it’s that we never have an exit strategy...” — Tim (31:51–35:16)
4. CIA Targeting of Traditional Women & The Family as ‘Extremism’
[35:16–47:02]
- Frank introduces a leaked CIA document equating advocacy for homemaking/motherhood with “racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism”.
- Jay historicizes this:
“CIA was never really a right wing institution...It was always a leftist institution.” — Jay (38:10) “It’s only natural they would evolve from that ideology into woke...WOKE is the next logical step...” — Jay (39:59–41:43)
- Adds that the CIA historically cooperated with French postmodernists (Foucault, Derrida) to undermine Soviet objectivism.
- Tim highlights the use of shame vs. coercion:
"Interrogate whether or not it's shame or force that the COVID left uses...the paradigm is actually both, and it's belt and suspenders. It's shame plus force.” — Tim (43:47)
- Nick Rockefeller cited as wanting women in the workforce for taxation and social control.
5. Social Engineering, Identity, and Subversion
[47:02–52:22]
- The group discusses how sexual identity and vice are engineered into central aspects of personal identity (“my identity is getting on my dick from some other dude’s butthole...that is my identity. How dare you!” — Jay (49:09))
- Frank expresses frustration with current activism and “programming” on display in mass rallies.
- Jay: “It’s been engineered to become an identity...The social engineers have been very perceptive at being able to sell a vice as a thing that identifies you...”
6. Orthodox-Catholic Reunification: Theological and Political Obstacles
[52:22–71:40]
- In response to an audience question, both enumerate hurdles for church unity:
- Jay: Issues aren’t just papal authority—there are “30 or so” sticking points (from relics to the filioque, unleavened bread, and ‘created grace’); criticizes political motivations behind modern ecumenism.
- Tim: Emphasizes the importance of not minimizing real theological distinctions (“minutiae actually matters”), and acknowledges Rome’s “seculum obscurum” and the need to clarify the real demands of universal jurisdiction; notes that some concessions have been made (e.g., Eastern Catholics omitting the filioque).
“We should not be diminishing intentionally that which divides us...” — Tim (58:13)
- Jay underlines that ongoing Vatican political entanglements and deviations from ancient canons present additional problems.
7. Bad Popes, Papal Minimalism & Salvation
[71:40–76:10]
- Tim defends “papal minimalism” as historically rooted; most popes have not been saints, and Catholics should “set expectations appropriately” (separating office from the man).
- Frank: “I’ve learned to get along without the Pope since my reversion. And honestly, it wasn’t very hard to do...”
8. Ecumenical Boundaries & Participation in Non-Denominational Ceremonies
[76:10–79:09]
- Both guests clarify under what circumstances, if any, they’d serve as best man or witness at weddings outside their own church traditions.
- Both require consultation with ecclesial authority and typically disallow witness to heretical groups.
Notable Quotes & Moments
- Jay: “This is normal procedures...this is not an aberration.” (Freemason crime) [21:21]
- Tim: “Basic American fat suburbs dorks...drive around with the G on their car...this is part of what’s meant to disarm you...” [23:16]
- Jay: “If you think that the Pope has to be a really holy guy...we’ve had a run of mostly mediocre or worse men. That’s important...to understand.” [73:17]
- Frank on CIA’s document: “It was more so about how in line with nature is she. Not political ideology...building a profile on a type of woman...” [42:56]
- Jay: “The CIA was never anti-liberal...it was anti-Soviet.” [39:59]
- Jay: “It’s been engineered to become an identity...the social engineers have been very perceptive...” [52:17]
Important Timestamps
- [14:29]: Introduction of Masonic hit squad story (France)
- [19:00–21:21]: Masonry’s structural overlap with intelligence
- [26:09]: Transition to just war theory and the Greater Israel Project
- [31:51–35:16]: Just war criteria applied to modern wars
- [38:10]: CIA document: homemaking as extremism, historical context
- [47:02]: Frank on mass programming & social engineering
- [52:22]: Criteria for Orthodox-Catholic re-communion
- [71:40]: Acknowledgement of Orthodox scandals and infiltration as well
- [73:17]: Papal minimalism explained
Tone & Language
- Engaged, irreverent, and often darkly humorous (“my identity is getting on my dick from some other dude’s butthole...that is my identity. How dare you!”).
- Theological references and historical depth, blended with pop culture asides.
- Frequent playful jabs and self-deprecating remarks.
- Unfiltered and occasionally explicit but always in the context of broader philosophical critique.
Further Reading/Watching Mentioned
- Alberta independence movement and secessionism in Canada.
- Operation Gladio and P2 Lodge for context on intelligence/secret society overlap.
- “A Clean Break,” Oded Yinon Plan, Mossadegh/Ajax for Middle East strategy.
- Yuri Bezmenov, Foucault, Derrida for CIA/postmodern connections.
- Metropolitan Seraphim’s 31-point letter to Francis (Byzantine List Model) [79:49].
Closing & Upcoming
- Jay Dyer: Announcements of upcoming interviews (e.g., Jesse Lee Peterson, John Kiriakou) and books.
- Tim Gordon: Debating Jewish interlocutors on Christian Zionism/Judeo-Christianity; promotes YouTube subscriptions.
- Future panel possibility: A full episode just on the Trinity and differences between Eastern and Western understandings.
- Frank: Expresses appreciation for lively, informative dialogue and reiterates his support for dialectic over debate.
This episode is quintessential Jay’sAnalysis/Retrogrades: intellectually fearless, willing to explore taboo or controversial topics, grounded in deep historical consciousness, and punctuated by sardonic wit and sharp personal chemistry.
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