Kurt Metzger: Kurp Derps with Jay Dyer

Summary

Jay'sAnalysis: "Kurt Metzger: Kurp Derps with Jay Dyer"

Date: April 8, 2026
Host: Jay Dyer
Guest: Kurt Metzger

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Overview

This rollicking episode is a high-octane, free-associative deep dive into comedy, esoteric Hollywood, elite rituals, geopolitics, conspiracy culture, and the absurdities of modern pop society. Jay Dyer and comedian Kurt Metzger blend satirical banter, jaw-dropping speculation, esoteric references, and comedic riffing, all centered on questions like "How programmed are we by culture and media?" and "What hidden forces really rule us?"

While the conversation moves fast and furiously between topics—often looping back with in-jokes and wild associations—core themes include the occult underpinnings of Hollywood, the normalization of elite deviancy, the weaponization of culture, and the psychic toll of living in a manipulated, conspiratorial world. The tone is irreverent yet intellectually savvy, with both hosts lampooning the darkness they encounter.

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Major Discussion Points

1. Hollywood Symbolism & Programming

Timestamps: 02:08–04:57

• Opening with riffs on Lucy's premise (Scarlett Johansson uses 100% of her brain and becomes "God"), Jay and Kurt discuss director Luc Besson's creepiness and Hollywood's symbolic programming.
• They review Jay's book Esoteric Hollywood, with Kurt noting, "Is Hollywood lousy with symbology? Isn't it?" (03:18, Kurt).
• Discussion of how Hollywood movies from past decades had subtler, “better” programming, with Jay lamenting, "I think like the last 10 years of movies is trash now, but... the further you go back, the better movies were." (03:42, Jay).
• Metacommentary that “media is always some kind of programming,” noting even fan-favorite films like Star Wars serve larger agendas.

2. Esoterica in Popular Film and Cultural Rituals

Timestamps: 04:17–06:39

• Debating the occult allegory in Hancock, with concepts of separation making mythical beings weaker—a motif tied to Kabbalism and esoteric doctrine ("Some of these movies are just retelling esoteric myths," - Jay 05:15).
• The comedic yet incisive riff that Fight Club is “about a jerk off club” and Top Gun is about repressed homoeroticism.
• Playful nod to Roger Avary, Tarantino, and controversies around defenses of Roman Polanski.

3. Elite Rituals, Esoterica, and Culture Wars

Timestamps: 13:30–22:46

• Jay and Kurt dig into the Epstein files, ritual abuse, “sex magick,” and how elites use occult rituals to degrade society (“You got Elite PDF stuff. Compromise. We’ve got sex magic. ...Epstein would be that explicit in terms of like what he was buying. Book wise. His Amazon wish list was wild.” - Jay, 13:58).
• Bizarre, recurring motif of the "booty as a portal," referencing Kenneth Grant, OTO, and sex-magic.
• Explaining the Super Bowl and award shows as gradual mass-initiation rituals, increasing social tolerance for deviance (“A gradual degrading of the population... it began with the little... Janet Jackson and Timberlake. ...then Lady Gaga's hanging at the VMAs like a sacrificed human, blood everywhere.” – Jay, 22:20).
• “All this trans stuff is the hermaphrodite. It’s the OTO Crolian ritual. ...It's the Aeon of the booty. Right. Basically.” – Jay, 25:54

4. Conspiracy, Pedophilia, and Normalization of Deviance

Timestamps: 16:31–20:29

• The conversation drills into how revelations such as the Epstein files don't lead to accountability: “Where's the arrest? Where the arrest? Where's the wood chipper?” – Kurt, 17:23.
• Both hosts discuss how the system protects perpetrators, and the normalization of topics once considered unspeakable, e.g. sex trafficking, cannibalism.
• “It’s the top of the pyramid. Exactly.” – Jay, regarding why disclosure never happens, 18:00.
• Reference to conspiratorial power structures: “Mossad runs our country...” – Kurt, 12:01
• Heavy mockery of internet figures like Nick Fuentes, who they claim serve to toxify dissident movements.

5. Geopolitics, Zionism, and the Manipulation of Religious Movements

Timestamps: 21:13–56:22

• Kurt recounts being raised as a Jehovah's Witness and arguing with Evangelical Christian Zionist kids: “I don't think that the literal state of Israel is what you got to worry about.” – Kurt, 50:39.
• Jay unpacks the deliberate transformation of American Evangelicalism into a vehicle for Zionism via the Scofield Bible, funded by Rothschilds (“Evangelical Zionism ...was promoted by the Rothschilds ...to get America on board with Balfour Declaration and all of that...” – Jay, 51:51).
• The conversation segues into “ritual inversion,” elites using trauma and propaganda to manipulate populations (e.g., Janet Jackson’s Super Bowl incident marks a shift in public tolerance, “gradual degrading of the population,” 21:56).
• Kurt rails against those exploiting religious or ethnic conflict for power.

6. Speculative Pop Philosophy: Vampires, Energy Cubes, Social Control

Timestamps: 40:42–65:17

• Extended riff on elite “vampirism”—the idea that cultural and literal vampires rule society, siphoning energy, money, and even life force (“Everything is vampiric at the end of the day.” – Kurt, 41:05).
• Wild speculation connecting mysticism, Qabalistic ritual, and science fiction/fantasy in pop media (mentions of Mario Bros., Transformers’ "energy cubes," Lady Gaga's egg performance, hermaphroditic rituals).
• Meditation on how trauma and distraction (addiction, debt, social media) are the true methods of control for the masses.

7. Comedy, Satire, and Coping through Humor

Timestamps: 46:14–48:12; 69:45–End

• Jay and Kurt break the tension with impressions (notably, Kyle Dunnigan’s Jordan Peterson), humorously exploring self-awareness and the need to lampoon our dark reality.
• Reflection on comedy as both resistance and catharsis: “It's an alchemical process. Drama followed by extreme rage. And then to sit with it a little bit, they know comes out.” – Kurt, 26:43
• Final thoughts loop back to the never-ending cycles of manipulation, secrecy, and “getting derped.”
• “You just got derped!” – Kurt, 76:00

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Hollywood Programming:
  “I think like the last 10 years of movies is trash now, but... the further you go back, the better movies were.” (Jay, 03:42)

• On Elite Rituals:
  "All this trans stuff is the hermaphrodite. It's the OTO Crolian ritual. ...It's the Aeon of the booty. Right. Basically." (Jay, 25:54)

• On Epstein Scandal:
  “Where's the arrest? Where's the wood chipper?” (Kurt, 17:23)
  “The truth is so bad. It's the top of the pyramid. Exactly.” (Jay, 18:00)

• On Evangelical Zionism:
  “Evangelical Zionism ...was promoted by the Rothschilds ...to get America on board with Balfour Declaration...” (Jay, 51:51)

• On Social Control:
  “Hopefully you're addicted to something. You got to worry about that. You can't worry about what I'm doing. ...Perfect method of control.” (Kurt, 65:18)

• On Comedy as Alchemy:
  “It's an alchemical process. Drama followed by extreme rage. And then to sit with it a little bit, they know comes out.” (Kurt, 26:43)

• Final Signoff:
  “All right, you just got derped.” (Kurt, 76:00)

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Memorable Bits & Long-running Gags

• The "Tunnels of Typhon"/Booty Portal: A recurring riff on the occult, sexual, and phantasmagoric motifs, blending esoteric jargon and pop culture; both funny and unsettling.
• Podcaster/Comedian Self-mockery: Jay and Kurt riff on their own personas, with Jay's bucket hat as “elderly hip hop expert” and Kurt’s “alchemical” writing process.
• Satirical Impressions: Kyle Dunnigan’s Jordan Peterson, embodied by Kurt as comic punctuation.
• Conspiratorial Metacommentary: Frequent acknowledgment that the conversation itself is looping, surreal, and “organized schizophrenia”—but also contains real, if uncomfortable, insight.

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Conclusion:

This episode is a wild, comedic, and deeply esoteric ride—part rant, part revelation, part satire—united by the shared thesis that power manipulates and feeds off the confused masses, often using trauma, media, and ritualistic spectacle. Dyer and Metzger shift effortlessly from pop culture to fringe history, dropping much food for thought (and many laughs), all while never fully letting the audience (or themselves) off the hook.

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For Deeper Dives

• Heavy occult topics: Esoteric Hollywood (Jay Dyer)
• Comedy/conspiracy crossover: Kurt Metzger’s podcast
• Further satire: Kyle Dunnigan’s Jordan Peterson bits

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For listeners: Nimble, irreverent, and sometimes disturbing—this is a podcast that rewards both a willingness to laugh and a readiness to look into cultural shadows. All, of course, in derpity derp style.

Transcript

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[Kurt Metzger]

Are we recording yet?

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[Kurt Metzger]

Do remember in Lucy. What's his name? Luke Bess Besson. Yeah. So, yeah, it's. It's Scarlett Johansson. Imagine if a woman uses her entire brain was the premise of the movie.

[Jay Dyer]

And is God.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, she takes, like, she absorbs the drug and then like, it shows her getting smarter through animals. It's like stage one. Oh, no, she's as smart as a dolphin now.

[Jay Dyer]

And she looks into the eyes of the first monkey girl, Lucy, Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, is that what that was supposed to be?

[Jay Dyer]

She's the first conscious. They call her Lucy. Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, that Luke Besson is a real creep, isn't he? I mean, what a French weirdo. I thought he had a fetish for. Oh, by the way, welcome to the Derp with Kirp. I'm your host, Gerb, and joining me is Jay Dyer wearing a bucket hat representing the elderly. Pretty hard. We look like two old experts on hip hop just getting together to talk about.

[Jay Dyer]

To talk about Liam Gallagher and Oasis. Yeah, which is why I'm wearing this bucket hat.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, right. Anyway, Jay gave me this book, Esoteric Hollywood. This is the book. Three of it. But already I was getting into it, cuz boy, is this lousy. Is Hollywood lousy with symbology? Isn't it?

[Jay Dyer]

They're low tier now, but they were better and that book kind of went through when they were better. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

What do you mean? Oh, that's. What do you mean by that low tier compared to when they were better?

[Jay Dyer]

I mean, I think like the last 10 years of movies is trash now, but like, the further you go back, the better movies were.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, well, it's better like programming, you know, all my. A bunch of friends might have all like, complain about Star wars and come, you know, all dude, like media and I mean, I got a point. But also, let's face it, always with some kind of programming, you know, that's true, like out of the gate. I mean, what is. What is like you have all Star wars and all that in here, right? What do you got? Is that in another volume?

[Jay Dyer]

That's in an other ones. We get into that kind of stuff. That one is like Christopher Nolan comic book. It's Gnostic feminist archetype.

[Kurt Metzger]

Remember Handcock? It's not Handcock, it's Hancock.

[Jay Dyer]

You talk about Will Smith. Yeah, Will Smith, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's got. The guy loves a pretty lady, I'll tell you that. And he. He's like a superhero. And then Charlize Theron is his Hancock.

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

When they're separated, they are less powerful. That's why they have to be separated. Because they get too much power.

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I didn't know. That's the stupid. You know, Esoteric. I don't know if it's Kabbalah or whatever, but it was like God wanted to separate these. Be one creature that I am the Rebus. They separate them because he'd be way too powerful together. Like that sounds just like stupid Hancock.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, what a bizarre thing to make the.

[Jay Dyer]

I mean. Well, yeah. Will Smith is a character. It's. It's an allegory for black dudes in Hollywood. On the down low, though. Did you not know that?

[Kurt Metzger]

Not at all. I didn't. Yeah. It was way over. My. My naive.

[Jay Dyer]

It's not even about that. I'm just bullshitting. So.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh. Because I think Fight Club is. The whole time was about gay thing. Yeah. I mean. Okay, let's. So. So there's like he is himself. So they're fighting in the parking lot. He was fighting himself in the parking lot. Right.

[Jay Dyer]

His inner desires. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And then a guy goes, can I go next? That's a jerk off club. He was jerking off at that parking lot. That's where those guys go to do that.

[Jay Dyer]

This.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jay Dyer]

If you've seen the Quentin Tarantino clip about Top Gun, I feel like that's. This right now.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's a lot of great, bro. I mean, I. I could pick up that. And then I like when he beats up Jared Leto. You know, Jared Leo's all deformed. He's like, why'd you do that? Because I want to destroy something beautiful. He was talking about Jerry Leto's butthole. He wanted to not. He wanted to be in a special. This is for the rest of his life.

[Jay Dyer]

This is the viral clip right now.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jay Dyer]

If you don't. Because he's like, so listen, Top Gun.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay.

[Jay Dyer]

It's about gay guys. Okay. Because it's like, you can ride my butt anytime.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's about gay feet. Okay. So I've been talking to Roger Avery. So I want to. I want to. You did? Yeah. I mean, a little bit. I want to get him on the show.

[Jay Dyer]

Nice.

[Kurt Metzger]

And so I don't know, his whole thing.

[Jay Dyer]

That Rogan interview is awesome.

[Kurt Metzger]

I know. That's how I got. I go. I want to talk to Roger. He hooked me up with him.

[Jay Dyer]

Awesome.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because I wanted. Yeah. God. Immediately. Because I'm so curious about that. Because Quentin, I mean, I don't want to bring this up to him when he comes on, but I. I'm curious about it. And by the way, it went right over my head when it happened. But when he's on Stern, Quentin talking about Polanski. Did you Ever hear that? Him defending Rome?

[Jay Dyer]

I have heard that, yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay. I don't feel bad for these 13 year old party girls. I've never heard of such a thing. You sound like you're so accustomed to it. You're sick of them. You're sick of these 13 year old party girls going around and they were dating. They were not dating.

[Jay Dyer]

It's Tarantino, okay? It's fucking Tarantino.

[Kurt Metzger]

Tarantino.

[Jay Dyer]

I like that you don't smoke, but you have the pipe.

[Kurt Metzger]

I stole from Scott Horton. Scott Horton has a pipe. I was like, this is like.

[Jay Dyer]

You're like Sherlock but not solving shit. You're just.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I'm a dirt. You could say I'm a dirt detective if you wanted. Derp, lock, dirt block.

[Jay Dyer]

This is getting retarded.

[Kurt Metzger]

But I like it. That's right. So I just got some weird news. That Professor Zhang, who I had on this show.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, no, not this guy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, his taking the channel down. He's not allowed. He's not doing it. He's not saying shit no more. I think his last interview is with my engineer, Mark. In fact.

[Jay Dyer]

He took it down. Or YouTube took it down.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, he. I'm gonna clap here for Mark Zed, because I'm gonna set this up. That Mark, my engineer. Because you normally. I stream. And Mark did like, I think the last interview with him when he's like, yeah, I'm getting. I'm gonna have to take all my stuff down. And so I'm gonna. It's Mark's pod. But I'm just gonna put on my channel so people see it. Because that's wild. And I think he had been in trouble before in. In China because somebody like smeared him into the CIA, which he. I don't think he is. Otherwise it'd be weird for him to just keep living there. I know how China is with. If you get accused of something, they're gonna arrest you. Sure. To talk to you. It don't mean you're gonna. Anything's gonna happen. When I did comedy there.

[Jay Dyer]

You do a lot of standup in China?

[Kurt Metzger]

I did a tour there.

[Jay Dyer]

Wow.

[Kurt Metzger]

And it was technically banned to do standup in there because someone got jealous. It's very popular. So some other bar, you know, some karaoke bar got jealous or something and said they were spreading communist propaganda. So if you're an expat and it's your thing, like you got no chance in hell. But these guys were smart and friends with the local politicians and, you know, they were in good with everybody. You're supposed to be in good with.

[Jay Dyer]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

So they brought him in there. We know you didn't do that, but you just can't do. Stand up for a month because somebody said something. So we have to. Look, we can't have, like, foreigners, and we didn't put a stop to it and blah, blah, blah. It was that kind of. So he's been. And he kind of talked surprisingly critically of China, where I was like, that's a wet weird. I think he's in Beijing. I was like, all right. I hope that's cool. It sounded like the way you put it was, as long as you stay in your lane, they don't really come after you. So, like the guy from Alibaba who disappeared for a few months, Right? Yeah. And then he stopped doing those stupid guitar shows for. I mean, don't make me love you, China. Anyway, there might. It's something like that. I think it's something Chinese, because I can't. I don't know why there's. Oh, because he predicted the Iran war, which is. Anybody would have.

[Jay Dyer]

A lot of people thought there. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

But somebody spread that. He caused it in by predicting it. Apparently, that's. I'm gonna. I'm gonna show this preamble a little bit and then play the thing. And then people could say, okay, I haven't seen it myself yet.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

But, yeah, that's all done. But I'm still waiting. The prediction, he said to me, which I still think about it, because there's two things. One, George R.R. martin can never finish the books because that's what's keeping him alive. The tension with the fans is some

[Jay Dyer]

kind of sexual tension with the fans and George Martin.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Well, occultic, but therefore sexual. And that's how they do all that. But if he ever finishes the book, he'd be dead, so he can never. There's almost like a Dorian Gray thing, in a way, going on with never finishing the book. So I laughed, but he was being kind of serious, and it kind of probably is. Which dude? Like, almost 12 years ago, I seen George R.R. martin at the Emmys, and I remember being like, what the. He. He didn't look like he was gonna be alive now, I'll tell you back then. Look like he didn't have much time left.

[Jay Dyer]

Are you, like, physically ailing Big fat

[Kurt Metzger]

with a captain's eye?

[Jay Dyer]

They'll take him out.

[Kurt Metzger]

Dude. He's built like Peter Griffin with a little sea captain hat on.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Hard will take him out. I'm like, why are you out here around at The Emmys, when you should finish that book years ago. But now he can never finish it. So that way just attention will keep him alive. I think that I, I think Jang's right about that. And when Maduro, remember they kidnapped Maduro and energy weapons were used and he goes, I think that's misinformation. I think Maduro's CIA, maybe the previous iteration of CIA asset the entire time. So he had to be in on his own kidnapping. He went with his wife. That's right. I forgot. And I was like, why would Venezuela be cool? I thought his own people got sick of him and betrayed him. It never occurred to me that, that he was CIA the whole time. But the guy we've had been. Had the CIA run Greece before. Yeah, the dude that Philip Seymour Hoffman played in Charlie Wilson's war ran Greece. Did you know that?

[Jay Dyer]

The villain in Mission Impossible 3.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, the villain. Yeah, right. He's like, yeah. And he ran Greece so that we did all the time. Oh also you know Mossad runs our country so it's not out of around possibility. And he said watch, he'll go to trial and then he'll say the Democrats rigged the 2020 election and then he'll be let off or something. And I was like, I had already heard him saying some dumb about that. When they grabbed Maduro about them Venezuela rigging the election. I'm like, we said Russia gay. Don't hear this dumb. So this is, I say this for Professor Zhang. There's two intriguing things that he told me that I'm waiting to see. We'll find out, I guess.

[Jay Dyer]

Give me the rabbit's foot. I want the rabbit's foot.

[Kurt Metzger]

What?

[Jay Dyer]

I'm going to find her. I'm going to hurt her.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's my Philip Single Hunter from Mission Impossible 3.

[Jay Dyer]

You're like 50 miles.

[Kurt Metzger]

You have any kids that we find them before. I'm going to make him into a pizza and I'm going to eat.

[Jay Dyer]

I'm going to make him a pizza.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm going to your girlfriend. I'm going to make her do jerky.

[Jay Dyer]

I want the Rab's foot. I want to tickle it.

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[Kurt Metzger]

So how. What kind of fun have you had with the Epstein files? Did you read it on an empty stomach?

[Jay Dyer]

Cuz it's 30 hours of live stream on the Epstein files.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh my God, crazy with it. Don't read it on an empty stomach. You'll get a real grumbly and you tumbly because all the pizza talk.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, you've gone crazy with. You're a coder now. You're essentially coding AI videos non stop.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I use grock and Suno, but I'm gonna try the others. Yeah, no, you really could. Any stupid thing I think of, I pretty much could make.

[Jay Dyer]

Now it's fun. I've got some ideas I want to make with with it. But also. Yeah, you're right that. I mean we've got Elite PDF stuff. Compromise. We've got sex magic. We just covered that a minute ago with Alex. He's buying Crowley books on sex magic. I even. I didn't expect Epstein would be that explicit in terms of like what he was buying. Book wise. His Amazon wish list was pretty wild.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, it's the same as Bannon's.

[Jay Dyer]

Exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. The title bomb book, which I'd never read, but Dr. Heather Lynn like a couple episodes ago said this one's good because it's not like just some shit lib. It's. It's actually about his. And that dude's a dark magician. I promise you that when you read it for five seconds all I'm sitting there. Oh, let me guess. And he's got the theosophy too. Oh, here we are.

[Jay Dyer]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

And I didn't know traditionalism is a very specific thing and not just, you

[Jay Dyer]

know, Rene on and Jules, Eva, all those guys. And it's funny too because I got in a debate with a guy about evil because I read Eva and people were coming on the live stream a while back and they were like, Eva doesn't say anything about doing butt stuff with young people. And yes he does. He has a whole section where he says it's a noble vice. Where you can. If you're a noble person.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's a great mag as an intellectual magazine to start. Noble Vice magazine.

[Jay Dyer]

Noble Vices, right. Which is essentially just.

[Kurt Metzger]

I have the same mustache as Gavin McGinnis when I started doing

[Jay Dyer]

There's Vice and Noble Vice.

[Kurt Metzger]

So Cecil Rhodes knew he wanted no part of women right away.

[Jay Dyer]

That's true. That's in the authorized biography. They're like, yes. And Cecil was really into boy Scouts.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, you know, say I just love the. I Heard some like. It was like some young kid that looks like Fuentes bait, you know. Is the voice British? And so he's putting this out because you could tell he really admires the shit out of this guy. Is right away he knew he wanted no part of women and he went to the diamond mine. He goes, then a clever Jew hooked up with him and then. But then he gets to the Rothschilds and he doesn't have nothing bad to say. It's amazing watching these people's like weird because we now know the whole thing is rigged by Epstein and Bannon and. And I guess Epstein's a fucking mouth of Sauron of the Rothschilds.

[Jay Dyer]

Apparently that that was a big revelation in the files. And it's weird because I had just been revisiting a Rothschilds biography by Morton which basically lays out all the conspiracy stuff in the biography they brag about. So they're like.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're right.

[Jay Dyer]

They're like oh yes. This legend about us gaming the stock market in the 1800s after Waterloo on advanced int. Intelligence. Of course they're bragging about it. Of course we did that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh you were who I was watching talking about. That's the history of intelligence is banking is bank cheating. And it is. That's right.

[Jay Dyer]

You think it's James Bond.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's not.

[Jay Dyer]

It's freaking boring ass bankers, dude.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, right. Boring.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. It's not sex and assassinations. That's like a little bit of it. But it's. It's origins are banking.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean obviously you take a jerky break sometimes, but it's not, you know, 24 7. You got to get your.

[Jay Dyer]

What did you think the jerky is? You think it's eating like flesh?

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I know nobody freezes real beef jerky. They're a real connoisseur as these sheer volume. No need to get it analyzed by a lab to see what's in it. Also there should be zero redactions in a legitimate.

[Jay Dyer]

Agreed.

[Kurt Metzger]

Beef jerky. We don't want anybody to know those herbs and spices. You got to keep that low. To me, the fact they redacted any of it means guilty. The fact that there's no arrest any. Who's going. Oh, because Democrats were. Yeah. Oh I agree. They sound like real monsters. Where's the arrest? Where the the arrest? Where's the wood chipper?

[Jay Dyer]

They're like we're gonna protect the victims. And everybody blacked out is a perpetrator.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right. And they. They revealed all the names of the victims exactly like they did the exact.

[Jay Dyer]

We all Know who Virginia Jeffrey is and all these people, the victims, but no one knows.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, they can never be honest about it because it's. The truth is so bad.

[Jay Dyer]

It's the top of the pyramid. Exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like just disclosure. The whole idea that makes me laugh every time. Because if they told people the. They did, dude. I mean they. They'd be torn apart like a Georgia Barrow zombie movie by hand. And I promise you they have they. In those words, they say it. Those words. They go. People found out.

[Jay Dyer]

Give me the human.

[Kurt Metzger]

The crazy shit we get up to.

[Jay Dyer]

Give me the human foot.

[Kurt Metzger]

Give me.

[Jay Dyer]

Give me the Tarantino foot right now.

[Kurt Metzger]

I want the rabbit's foot now. Because here's the thing. I know I was trying to explain this to people. The people understand because you want the study of symbology a lot. Like it's very mundane, these kind of spells and. And so just explain a little bit in your opinion what these rituals are and like exactly what it is that they're doing. You're like a halftime to me. The halftime super bowl between Bad Bunny. What do you like. Do you like hermaphrodite weirdness or do you like an old fashioned rock and roll pedo?

[Jay Dyer]

I want it just smooth. I want all of the parts removed and it just smooth. That would be true. Transcending of the genders. Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

So what have you just smooth like the Barbie movie. Yeah.

[Jay Dyer]

Because if you're a hermaphrodite, you've got them both. Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, but like vampires. Bret Weinstein's mentor, Dr. Robert Drivers had a great email about how we can make these hermaphrodites and how it's perfect.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's quite a. Sean Atwood read it to me. Like, I mean I make a clip of it because it was horrific.

[Jay Dyer]

That one was horrific. The. The. Well, I can't. Some of these. I don't even want to say like the one about the pacifiers. Alex has mentioned this like 20 times. The pacifiers get. Get the infant.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, this is quite. I mean I'm gonna do a show with him. I think. I think it's being set up now, but so on Jimmy Dore, Alex is talking to Nick Fuentes again. Not sure why anyone still talks. I assume that kids in everybody's blind spot because I watched this asshole sell Epstein merchandise and say Epstein's got a lot of aura and that there's no way Israel could have killed Charlie Kirk and that. So. So I'm like, that's weird. This anti Semite is like when it push comes this Shove. He comes through. He comes through. Also, I noticed people that say I don't like the Jews kind of aren't helping. It's almost like they're helping Zionists more because as you know, anti Semitism is a vital fuel to run the state of Israel. Jews never wanted to traditionally live in that hole. They wanted in America.

[Jay Dyer]

They wanted it. Yeah, exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

So that's why it's necessary to enact false flags and pogroms and to encourage them to move there. And right now when they really are on the cusp of something great, of course they're going to scare as many of the trauma based mind control slaves.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And this little piece of shit out of the gate has been a very obvious guy that's supposed to stink up your reputation with like anti Semitism. And he chooses his words like a piece of shit. And I think it's on purpose. I've watched him do it. Watch emerge people in the Capitol on January 6th haven't got an explanation for why he didn't go to jail. Right. Didn't people not even there go to jail? His followers went to jail. Why didn't he go to jail? He said, disregard the police and break down the barriers. You ever see that?

[Jay Dyer]

I have seen that. I'm curious because you are. You were to raise Jehovah's Witnesses, but are you Metzger. Is that Jewish?

[Kurt Metzger]

No, it's German. Well, it could be. It just means butcher and German. So there's that Nazi and then there's some rabbi. I think there's a wrestler. There's a Nazi rabbi. He's Ukrainian. So. Okay, those exist. He's from Right Tech. Yeah. No, I talked to the guy from the Atlantic Council who's a.

[Jay Dyer]

You talk to somebody that landed Council?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Vlad Davidson and Lev took the fucking. Is the Breaking the Rules podcast. I feel it was some kind of ambush to beat me about still giving money to Ukraine. To Ukraine, motherfucker. Is that where we're at? You're gonna jump. They want to talk about Epstein files. But then it became about that.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, you asked about the rituals first, so go back to the inversion and the ritual. What is it? I think what they're doing with the high profile, like super bowl, all that stuff, it's a gradual degrading of the population because it began with the little. Remember the titty slip of Janet Jackson and. And Timberlake back in the day? That was like the big first super bowl thing. That was like a big deal. But then it turned into, oh, Britney Spears is like sucking on A serpent. And then it became Pink is up there doing an actual Masonic ritual on stage. And then it was, you know.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, all those masks.

[Jay Dyer]

Events, they got crazier, though. They, like, they doubled up, tripled up. Then it became, you know, Lady Gaga's hanging the VMAs like a sacrificed human with blood everywhere.

[Kurt Metzger]

Remember the Little Monsters tour where she comes out of the egg?

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

I showed my podcast, which was ushering in.

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that's just before an aeon. That's right. Because this is just before, like, so at the time it sneaks in under. I don't care if you're. I don't care if you're gay. I don't know why you're not you. But I don't know why you're in the closet. Why are you in the closet still in this day and age when there's the most loud and proud. Because you're a fucking psychopath. That's who's still in the fucking closet. So. But. But it's so. I thought with all that shit at the time that we could stop talking about how gay you are. I don't give a fuck about it. And I was like, this will people do what they want. So they're adults, right. All of a sudden that blossom into nothing is anything, and we're all just fucking gender blob monsters. And I'm being hatched out of an egg and do that. It's so gross. It's on one of the earlier episodes and my podcast, we watched that. You see that news report where she's. And you don't. When I watch it again, I'm like, oh, this is really creepy. Like, you can see what this is. Just another CERN tunnel opening just like any other thing. But then all the sporting events are rituals, aren't they? Isn't baseball that. Yeah.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, when you came on my podcast, it was about. I call. I titled it Esoteric Booty Cults because it was about portals being open and how the booty hole is a portal.

[Kurt Metzger]

In their religion.

[Jay Dyer]

In their religion. It is.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's probably the key to time travel.

[Jay Dyer]

It's. Yeah, that. No. And Kenneth Grant, right. In his book, it's Typhonian Oto. And it's trans. You Gotian magic where you travel through the booty hole.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, dude.

[Jay Dyer]

Which is essentially Mario Brothers.

[Kurt Metzger]

The pipes, Right? Yeah, right. The pipes, the mustaches, the shrooms.

[Jay Dyer]

The sh. Oh.

[Shopify Commercial Voice]

Tunnels of Typhon.

[Jay Dyer]

The tunnels of Typhon.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, my God, the mushrooms.

[Jay Dyer]

That Mario does.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, my goodness. Patel's been down the tunnels of Typhon. We know that. That's one thing that's clear with that little sweetie pie. Oh, the tunnels have done. I want to do like Doctor Strange comic book talk by the tunnels of Typhon.

[Jay Dyer]

What is the Doctor who? Yeah, exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, Doctor who dresses like every Emmy award winning lesbian.

[Jay Dyer]

Exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, now it's like Joe Soloway. But last time I was there, you know where Jeffrey Tambor is on Trans America? He gets fired on trumped up harassment charges because they resented that he wasn't trans. The co stars. I mean, I didn't believe their story at all. It sounded absolutely ridiculous.

[Jay Dyer]

He's not.

[Kurt Metzger]

What, harassing them?

[Jay Dyer]

No. Trans.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I know he's not. That's why they.

[Jay Dyer]

No, he's a woman.

[Kurt Metzger]

Jeffrey Tambor.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't think.

[Jay Dyer]

I'm just joking with a couple.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, yeah, I know you argue because he gave a speech that he goes, first of all, nobody watched the show.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. I remember when it was. When it was a controversy.

[Kurt Metzger]

I bet most people in that crowd did not watch the show. I bet you my friend that wrote on his show didn't watch a show. But it's the thing. They had to be like, oh, finally. And he comes out, Jeffrey D. And he goes, if I could be the last CIS man to play a trans woman, I wouldn't be disappointed. Everybody's like, yeah, they love him. And I'm looking at like, what the. What are you doing?

[Jay Dyer]

All this trans stuff is the hermaphrodite. It's the Oto Crolian ritual. It's. It's what Crowley said would be the new Aon, where everything is about booty stuff. It's the Aon of the booty. Right. Basically.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, sweet baby Rebus.

[Jay Dyer]

He says, the eye of Horus is better than the mouth of Venus. Mouth of Venus being the vagina.

[Kurt Metzger]

This guy just has to not use any hole the right way, doesn't he?

[Jay Dyer]

That is the ritual.

[Kurt Metzger]

His old thing is every hole.

[Jay Dyer]

Correct.

[Kurt Metzger]

We find all the ways to not. Not under warranty for this hole. Correct. I'm gonna jailbreak this hole. There's a reason you're not supposed to jailbreak.

[Jay Dyer]

Is this your writing? How do you write jokes, Kurt? I'm curious. I'm curious. Is this the process?

[Kurt Metzger]

It's an alchemical process. Drama followed by extreme rage. And then to sit with it a little bit, they know comes out.

[Jay Dyer]

Is it for real? Anger? Like anger is part of the.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, I get traumatized three days a week. Or doing Jimmy Doy show and looking at news and it's not learning the news. That's all. Because, I mean, that's pretty upsetting because you can't really get this news again. It's not like we're reporters or something on, you know, showing up. I mean, it's the same job as fake reporters are all just buying stories from AP and whatever. Yeah, I know people understand that. They probably don't. But it's just Jimmy knows good news sources, so he would talk about the stuff that he'd see. So that's like Max and Aaron, Gray zone, always. And. And he. They're like, good.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, Gray zone's good.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And they're very not. I'm. I'm not in any Overton window. I'm in the Rick Overton window. I can't say I'm, like, way out there now of what I'm into. So I need to have, like, good sources of, like, terrestrial, not anything weird, so that I have, like, a base to compare other to. Because when you. You're dealing in, like, esoteric horseshit, it gets real nebulous.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's like astral, you know, it's too

[Jay Dyer]

far out, probably, for. It's just for speaking to a comedy crowd.

[Kurt Metzger]

Once you get in these realms that these people are in, where it's consciousness and blah, blah, you're already in some trippy. I was telling this guy, Lynn Buchanan, that remote viewer, who said, like. Because I. I don't really understand the difference between that and astral projecting.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I go, so why not just ask for Project? And he goes, no, it's useless. It's absolutely useless. If you ask for project, it's so subjective that the things you're seeing are completely being determined by your subjective.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Whereas a remote viewer, that's all about not having any other thing, interfering. And so they're basically people that are. This is not saying. I'm not. Maybe it's all made up. But I'm just saying this is what the. What was explained to me is a difference. And there's a. I just watched it with Benedict Humper Badge. The.

[Jay Dyer]

It's cucumber snatch.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, yeah, Benedictine. Cucumber snatch is a wonderful Henry Sugars or something. So. Roald Dahl book. But it's all about a guy.

[Jay Dyer]

British Intelligence, by the way.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, no, I know. And then. And then. So the main. What's the. He's in it. Somebody's playing Rob Dal. It's Ray finds his planum.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then Benedict is playing this guy who finds. I think they're calling it It's a Gurdjieff book or something he found. I'm guessing that's the reference. Some Indian guy who has hair come out of his ears could easily be an Armenian mystic.

[Jay Dyer]

To me, also a spy. Gurdjieff.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, I was not aware of that. Spy for who?

[Jay Dyer]

It's unclear, but he was suspected of being a spy when he left Russia. They thought he was a Russian spy. Other countries thought he was a Russian spy. I'm not saying he was, but they thought he was.

[Kurt Metzger]

Was. Well, a lot of people are spying. It don't have to be for a state. Well, people. I don't know what the Bannon is a spy for, but I think he's a spy.

[Jay Dyer]

You could be a self contracted sort of corporate spy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, the guys into the traditionalist thing, that's a very. He's real tight with Moonies. As soon as I see them hanging out with Moonies, that's a giveaway.

[Jay Dyer]

That's a CIA thing. That was the Washington Post. Used to be owned by the Moonies. And then that was Bush bought or sold that. But the CIA also set up the kcia and that was all connected to the Moonies, which is crazy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right? So the. So and the KCIA is from the American CIA because it is kind of a general. Correct. Because I always think that's funny. The kcia, the gay CIA.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. I mean, which is just the c. Gay pop into.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, because, you know.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, K pop's a mind control thing, I think.

[Kurt Metzger]

How. How could it be anything? But that is crazy.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'd rather live in North Korea than be a South Korean K pop. Boy, you're gonna have a better time in North Korea, I promise you, than South Korea as a K pop.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

In fact, North Korea. Not that I want to live in North Korea, but you know, that little own of their lights are off at night. I don't know if that's as big an own.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. Somebody was on Tim Cast and he was bringing that up and I was,

[Kurt Metzger]

oh, no, they get natural sleep, Tim.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, we had a huge debate and I was trying to remember, but they brought that up and I was like, is it really the case that the lights go out?

[Kurt Metzger]

I said, not that the lights went

[Jay Dyer]

out in North Korea. I mean, is that true? I don't know. I'm serious.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. You know, I'm a big fan of Tim Pool. Just his music, believe it or not, Nothing else.

[Jay Dyer]

I have heard some of the. The.

[Kurt Metzger]

His politicians. The commentary is horseshit. But my goodness, what a talented band. What a.

[Jay Dyer]

And he's from Hooting the Blowfish.

[Kurt Metzger]

Who, Tim? No, he's from Chicago. A half Korean family.

[Jay Dyer]

I thought he was in Hooting the Blue. You see the music, right? You're talking about Hootie Darius.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know what his band's called.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, you like the music. You don't know the name of the band. It's Hootie.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's. I. I think. I wouldn't insult Darius Rucker the way you just did. Let me tell you something. His name's not Hootie, okay?

[Jay Dyer]

Make me cry.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, Everybody calls Moody. It's not his name seems. Darius.

[Jay Dyer]

Darius. It's Dontarius in black.

[Kurt Metzger]

Is. Yeah, but. Well, there's a countryfied version of it. You know, I. I know we hear him in Nashville a lot, so. Yeah. Anyway, now there's all these people I resent the. Out of when I watch them, because I'm watching them knowingly, like, to me, knowingly, like, first of all, if you pretended the Israel thing didn't. Is it what it is? And that's got nothing to do with anybody's religious prejudices but Iran. Yeah, we all know that's what that is. But you know the genocide they did in broad daylight, the thing that irritates. They just kill a lot of people in Gaza. Yeah, okay. Okay. So when I got to hear people that are rational, whatever, tell me, like, some stupid shit about you can't hide, like, UFOs or whatever, anything. I just hit a fucking genocide in broad daylight for your dumb cow face. What are you talking about? They hide it in front of you all day long.

[Jay Dyer]

Was it hidden or. I mean, it's just like they did it and they didn't.

[Kurt Metzger]

Even plain sight would go, it's hiding. If you. If you're taught not to look at something, then you're not going to look at it.

[Jay Dyer]

They're like, yeah, we got them all. We killed them all. But it's not genocide.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I didn't want. I thought I was like a real Charlie Kirk about it saying it's ethnic cleansing because I wasn't comfortable saying genocide. Then I looked up what genocide means as defined by the victims of it. Oh. And guess what? That's what it is. So I don't want to call it that. The people that were in the Holocaust call it that. So that's a little bit of a bitter pill to swallow. I'm not sure what color of a pill that would be. I know the Holocaust definitely happened because there ain't no way you'd be that vicious and that mind controlled. The level of trauma inflicted to be able to cause that level of mind control. The only thing close is like that Depression era, hiding your money in your mattress instead of a bank. Kind of old person that they'll never trust a bank again, no matter what. I mean, they're probably right. But you. You, that's the only. I don't know what else is that solid.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, it was interesting that BB did just recently re reference Amalek because I remember when he said it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, Amalek.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, I remember when he said it two or three years ago and I mentioned it the other day on Twitter and everybody. He never actually said this. I mentioned on a podcast somebody said

[Kurt Metzger]

he never said that.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, that's the gaslighting that the people who defend that will. They'll just be like, they never said that.

[Kurt Metzger]

That Vlad Davidson, dipshit from the Atlanta Council, he talked to me like I have never heard any information before. He set me up.

[Jay Dyer]

That's why I do his Benjamin I'm not even familiar with.

[Kurt Metzger]

He goes, yeah. Then he. Oh, well, I have the clip of some. Some fan recorded it because they took the podcast down. I guess I broke the rules on the Break the Rules podcast. But to have a guy in a foreign accent telling me how we got to give our money to a war to kill the last of the Ukraine. I mean, I go, dude, put on a kipper when you talk to me like that. And then he hung up. He got off the thing.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, wow.

[Kurt Metzger]

You don't have a Eastern European accent talking that shit to me. And then you don't got nothing to say except like slander about Max Blumenthal.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, right.

[Kurt Metzger]

No matter.

[Jay Dyer]

I read Max's book Management Management of Savagery. We did a whole podcast on that. It was pretty killer. Like the way that the.

[Kurt Metzger]

Max was a True Believer dude. This is why I really like him.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because that guy went there intending to prove the quite the opposite of what he thinks.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So anybody that's got to just look at the facts and not. Not be precious with their. That could just respect that it's respectful.

[Jay Dyer]

Absolutely. Yeah. His book was Great Management Savagery.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's the thing I get from the Jehovah's is that. That where you're like a true believer and then you're like. Then you don't believe. Right. Like, it's in every walk. I mean, it's in jobs. You know, everybody's got a career that like is a big disappointment when you get to the top you take your pick of things. Yeah, but that point where you realize it's, that's like the thing that everybody needs to be focused on right now because I'm watching people focus on real horseshit.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. See John Hagee was like we must support the blood moons of Israel.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yo, that sack, I think his brother got caught in some pedo scheme.

[Jay Dyer]

Really?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, he's Cornerstone Church. They're up. I think Cornerstone. The guy who made the weapons movie. I messaged it. I messaged him actually because I wanted

[Jay Dyer]

that because I, I, well you talking about the guy from Webman wise because

[Kurt Metzger]

you know the comedian and he got, he got molested at a Cornerstone church in our Arlington. I want to say.

[Jay Dyer]

Wow, I didn't know that. That's crazy.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm very. He's talked about on things I'm not like.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, I don't doubt you.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that movie he made was like nightmares I had as a kid. I mean very specific.

[Jay Dyer]

I didn't know that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Dude, I used to be so terrified I would start lucid dreaming because the nightmares were persistent of.

[Jay Dyer]

Or were you astral projecting or remote viewing?

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay.

[Jay Dyer]

I think that was actually better be precise.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right. Well I'll tell you what, is it scientific? Yeah, I, I would see not they call it the Night Hag but I wasn't frozen. I would be like alone getting stalked through a house and it'd be like some horrific I I up the stairs I hear people noises so I'm like I know something's waiting to get me. Like that lady from that movie, right?

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

I go up the stairs which light coming out of my parents bedroom and like there's like a get together in the room. So I'm like relieved you know because I see light and I open it up and there's just a spotlight on a record player playing people noises to trick me and I feel it grab into my ribs.

[Jay Dyer]

Sounds like a David lynch movie all of a sudden.

[Kurt Metzger]

David lynch is the closest ever come to the nightmares I had.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that thing in Mulholland Drive is the closest to the thing in my dream.

[Jay Dyer]

That's okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I think it's a lot. Who is the niece of Lilith if you want to get but I don't know. That's based on a burnt up party

[Jay Dyer]

girl demon genealogies on the Kurt Metzger podcast. This is great.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh I got real into looking shit up but you know let's just throwing that out there because the appearance is like she's be like a real party dance girl who's like now kind of burnt up looking.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So that's why I associate with that, because.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

But the knowledge that they were gonna get me every time made me so terrified. In my dreams, I was like, oh, I'm dreaming. And I would fly away to escape. Okay, okay, then I'll fly to people I know. I'm like, check it out. And fly. And they wouldn't look at me. I'd be like, dude, I'm flying. Like, check it out. And so now looking back, I'm like, maybe that's what that was.

[Jay Dyer]

Or you were like Muhammad and you were flying to Jerusalem on a steed.

[Kurt Metzger]

Never been. Never been. I've never been. To quote the great Douglas Murray, this feel.

[Jay Dyer]

I've never been.

[Kurt Metzger]

Haven't you been.

[Jay Dyer]

Have you been inside George Clooney? I've actually been.

[Kurt Metzger]

I would just think. I should think you would have been. He called Dave Smith a shapeshifter. The only Jew in the room that's come back. Why is a comedian talking about it? That's what he was saying to Dave Smith. Who laid him the out.

[Jay Dyer]

He did.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jay Dyer]

He totally dominated live stream that debate. It was crazy. He dominated him for sure.

[Kurt Metzger]

I thought. People tell me they thought Douglas Murray did really well.

[Jay Dyer]

What?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, because like I said, dude, the part that makes you crazy is looking at the same reality and watching somebody

[Jay Dyer]

just say somebody have a totally different.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, a whole overlay over everything.

[Jay Dyer]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like, everybody lives under the same vinyl covering. And then you can add extra layers to get different effects.

[Jay Dyer]

You know, this is a very Mulholland Drive podcast that you like with the. If you remember the. The scene where there's the stage and they're like, everything is the tape, but the tape is blank.

[Kurt Metzger]

This is the Brown Lodge.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, we're in the. Okay, not the Black Lodge. The Brown.

[Kurt Metzger]

We discussed the tunnels of Typhon. Normally, women are laughing.

[Jay Dyer]

This is the Poo Poo Lodge where we talk about the brown.

[Kurt Metzger]

This is a real groiper hangout. No tuna allowed.

[Jay Dyer]

No tuna.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, how is that little shit still around? Anyway. Oh, I heard Alex's feelings because I was like, why the would he even be talking about any of this? I watched Nick. Nick Francisco. Well, you got to vote Democrat because they're going to do an investigation.

[Jay Dyer]

Alex asked me about that today. He's like, I don't think we don't need to vote Democrat.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know about all that. What do you think? But why are you talking this piece of that just said Epstein has a lot of aura. I'm just Gonna say it. Epstein's really. I can't remember what moronic thing he said, but I watch him, just in an aura. Yeah, no, he's selling the shirts, the Epstein like zip rods.

[Jay Dyer]

But I'm saying the, the term, the young terms. Motion and aura. Youth terms.

[Kurt Metzger]

I didn't know that. You don't know about because I'm innocent of those. So I don't know about what kids say.

[Jay Dyer]

Gunar, maxing, mogging.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, the new terms. Oh yeah, I heard clavicular got mogged pretty hard.

[Jay Dyer]

Right? Exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

I heard Peter Till's blood boy got mocked. Did you just mock my blood boy?

[Jay Dyer]

No, I Gunar maxed him in the tunnels of Typhon.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm trying to goon max my blood boy and this guy comes over and mogs him. I gotta get a new blood boy.

[Jay Dyer]

We're ruled by vampires, Kurt. Real vampires.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, no, on every level. On every level. Because I think it has something to do with, you know, the idea of God's finite and then the people that separate are. God is infinite. People separated are finite. So they can't make anything new. They've got to continuously, yeah. Siphon off little bits of God floating into this shitbag world they made for you. And so everything is vampiric at the end of the day. And then they're planning who's going to get what when the heat death of the universe happen. What unit of energy to the last dime of that. They're going to plan that out for trillions of years.

[Jay Dyer]

Units of energy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because what would be inevitable if you, if you have to face that there's either eternal or, you know, infinite or not infinite, Right? So if you're something that's can only be, can only live by getting sipping off of the.

[Jay Dyer]

It's energy cubes, man.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, right.

[Jay Dyer]

Nathaniel Witwicky. It's energy cubes. Transformers, energy cubes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Anyway, after all that genocide and all, especially the pedo cannibal stuff. And I, I know you're gonna say I'm in a bit of a purity spiral here, Jay, but I, I, I know, and I admit it. I get a little extreme about Beto cannibalism. Why had, I want to ask Alex, why had you already not given up on Trump? He betrayed everyone pretty much immediately. I watched it. I had to watch it.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. Alex said the other day, look, I don't want to give up Trump because I'm going to jail, okay? Democrats come in, I'm going to jail. That's why.

[Kurt Metzger]

So he, that's what I thought. But why Would he be hurt by me thinking that I didn't know Alex was hurt? He said that to Duncan, and he might have been hurt by Kurt. Yeah, he was hurt by. He was hurt by curb. That's exactly right. So I feel bad because I. Metzger. The thing I always said about him is I don't think he's out of the woods with his lawsuit. This is what I was. Yeah, postulating could be okay. Like, he's kind of. But not really. And if he turns against, you know, in prison. We all saw the one with Ed Norton where he turns against his former allies and he gets a. You know, so I'm like. Or with. What's his name? The. He was great during the pandemic. And now he. Don't say Darius Rucker. Derek with Darius Rucker. No, the dude from get him to the Greek. I'm blanking on his.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, Russell.

[Kurt Metzger]

So Russell Brand.

[Jay Dyer]

Russell B. Rand.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay. So we used to play his clips all the time. Because during the pandemic, he was dead on. Hello, Cat. Yeah, and then the EU was like, we're bringing these, like, sex assault. Which, by the way, what a laugh to bring these charges against Russell Brand when your king fucking hung out with Jimmy Savile and his pedo uncle. And they all have black berets to commemorate. Oh, and also Jimmy Savile was his marriage counselor.

[Jay Dyer]

And Jimmy Saville gets a papal knighthood award from the Pope himself. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like maybe. Shut the fuck up. It's clear what this is about.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So how they do you. The dialectic. Right. So first you get. Or how they used to do in the twenties to Italian and Jewish pimps like Luck. Charlie Lucky and his buddy Myelinsky.

[Jay Dyer]

Yep.

[Kurt Metzger]

You have her. You have the chick graped. Then you come to the rescue like they did to Jordan Peterson. Like they did, too.

[Jay Dyer]

No, no, no, dude.

[Kurt Metzger]

He hangs out with Gail Pooley. That's bad news. Wait, wait.

[Jay Dyer]

Jordan Peterson was grapes? What are you saying? I'm confused.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm saying it's metaphorically. Yeah. You get some then because he got sick. Then I show up in the Daily Wire, I give you $60 million, and you're just coming off of benzos and your wife's in a hospital. I see what you're saying. And now you're obligated to me because I gave you 60 million and. And, like, you know, you almost lost your wife. Now you. I don't care about nothing else. My wife was sick. I'm not gonna go die. You know, I'm gonna go talk What I want. I'll just stay away from this one issue. Yeah, right. It's not, like, so sinister. First.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, I remember early on they were like, asking Jordan, hey, what about Soviet Union? And what about gulags? And I can't go there. No, can't go there.

[Kurt Metzger]

Why? Wait, why would he be hesitant to go there about gulags in the Soviet Union?

[Jay Dyer]

Because of it. Eventually, getting back to topics of Middle Eastern countries,

[Kurt Metzger]

that's pretty far. Seeing ahead to dodge a question.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, it's because Solzhenitskin, Solzhenitsyn's book references the relationship between the Russians and Middle Eastern peoples. And Jordan knew that because he's read the book and this was like, 2018 that he got asked this question. He was like, well, you're just not going to go there. So ever since that.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then he started having split color suits because as a Jungian guy, his cognitive dissonance has to express. It's like a. Like a chick cutting her bangs. To have a change in life, Jordan Peterson had to show up with these split suits because how you supposed to hold these things together when you know better? Exactly how the. You do that without it coming out?

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. And then people asked him later, you know, what about genocide? What about genocide? I'm not gonna go there.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Why would you not go there?

[Jay Dyer]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Buckle, clean your room of Gossens.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Your room's filthy with Gossens. You gotta clean this. A room. They're cleaning.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, dude, put in Kyle Dunnigan. Jordan Peterson, will you. This is one of my favorite. So we made a long time ago, me and Dunnigan made this where it was Jordan Peterson making an emotional plea to women. And I think Kyle is one of the better impressions of him. Although Tyler Fisher did have a good one. Oh, yeah, there it is.

[Jay Dyer]

You don't like mine? I've been working on mine.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's not bad, but, you know, I'm used to, like, real. I thought. I thought you, Seymour Hoffman, though, could really. Some microphone could. Could go far. All right, Kick this up so that everybody can hear his wonderful Jordan Peterson emotional play. Is it going well?

[Jay Dyer]

Jordan Peterson joins me now.

[Kurt Metzger]

Jordan Peterson, welcome.

[Kyle Dunnigan]

I'm sorry for getting emotional, but I'm afraid every minute women are gaining more weight. It's not going the other way, I'm sorry to say. They won't stop eating. It's not like it makes me happy to say this. I wish it did. I wish I could say, yay, look how fat they are. Hooray. Let's throw a Parade. And what do the men do? Who are they supposed to make love to? Men can't reach their holes. It's like, sure you want to get on top? Well, you bloody well sign my will and testament, because I'm not gonna make it through this. Happy birthday. To who? Not me. Not any man. I know. I've been to McDonald's. I've been to Wendy's. It's all women in there. It's like, oh, God. How about a me too? For she also ate all my fries. No child should go to bed hungry because their mother ate all their fries.

[Kurt Metzger]

Food.

[Kyle Dunnigan]

When I was a boy in Canada, you used to be able to leave your pies cooling on the windowsill. Good luck with that. Now don't blink. There's a fat woman eating your pie.

[Kurt Metzger]

What's his last thing?

[Kyle Dunnigan]

I was afraid Lizzo was going to eat that flute.

[Kurt Metzger]

Lizo played that crystal flute. And a fat. Yeah.

[Jay Dyer]

Kurt's podcast is like 100 mile per hour organized schizophrenia. But it's good.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, schizophrenia is really just a collection of symptoms, some of which I exhibit,

[Jay Dyer]

but not all of them. And it's like it's a stream of. A stream of consciousness of association.

[Kurt Metzger]

It all comes back around. I promise everyone. You know. But it's called Derp with Kirk, because that's.

[Jay Dyer]

No, it's. It's. This is.

[Kurt Metzger]

This is because I get into those things when you. Because I did. What's redacted after you. Because you were talking to what's her head. Natalie, about, you know, the William Branham cults.

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

The NAR that took over America.

[Jay Dyer]

The. The evangelical sort of charismatic, New Apostolic Reformation stuff.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then this thing blows. My mind is really where we get these charismatics, like the mo. Because they started out with snake. You know, they're all jumping rope with snakes. They get bit a lot. So they need safer tricks. They had to come up with safer tricks.

[Jay Dyer]

Safer tricks.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then they had some Armenian faith healer, EVOC or something. Hagobian. Okay, okay. There's a guy who. Who's a former NAR guy that he just talks about all this. Hagobian's last name. I think it's evoc, but some like a Ghostbuster villain name.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And he's like a guy looks like Jesus, like that other guy that was making the rounds that looks like Jesus. That isn't Russell Brandt.

[Jay Dyer]

Jared Leto.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, he's a guy who starred in some Jesus movie. And I know you've seen him on And.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, the Mormon chosen guy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Maybe.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

But he go he shows up to Palm Springs. They had a. These faith dealers. Like all these people came because I heard someone could heal the sick. All these rich people, like Jesus Christ, a lot of people here. And we gotta, like, really get rid of them. So it was like this weird opportunity to make money and get the people the out. And anyway, long story short, the reason we have the evangelicals we have now is because of the Kardashian family.

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

What?

[Jay Dyer]

My wife went on a deep dive studying that. She went deep understanding the. The history of the Kardashians connected to faith healing, which I didn't even know this, but a lot of these.

[Kurt Metzger]

Where do they come from? Will you. Is this work? Well, no, I know that part.

[Jay Dyer]

They come from the tunnels of Typhon. They pop up out of.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, but.

[Jay Dyer]

So yeah, and. And a lot of these influencer people of that caliber have also followed the trend of starting their own little churches, which is, I think, a way to hide tax money, that kind of stuff. But.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, right.

[Jay Dyer]

But also, as I was talking with Natalie, it redacted. Like, the evangelical movement as a whole has always had the CIA's hands in it. It's a huge.

[Kurt Metzger]

I try to explain this to people because it's so I. When I was a kid, all my little. My friends that were like, born again and I was a Jehovah, we would argue because they were all hardcore Christian Zionists. Joe's Witnesses are neutral politically. So I was like, I don't think that the literal state of Israel is what you got to worry about. They're like, no. And then the red heifer. I'm gonna hear this red heifer. Like, where's this coming from? I'd heard that red heifer. It was baffling to me.

[Jay Dyer]

I've heard it since I was a kid. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And I'll bring up people now, they don't know what the it is, but Tim Pool had one of that. That Jonathan Cahn and some other maniacs. One guy holds up a baggie of red heifer dust.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Being a snort some. You fucking freak. What is that shit?

[Jay Dyer]

Like their version of a relic? I guess. So the idea is that it's coming soon, but again, I've been hearing that from that crowd since I was a kid in the evangelical world. But they believe. Yeah. They have to, you know, rebuild the Third Temple. That. That will be the Mashiach for the Jews. Traditional Christian interpretation is that that would be the Antichrist temple. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because why would a Christian. So, I mean, whatever you believe with it, if you're Jewish, I don't care. But why would a Christian give a. About the wailing Wall of the third Temple? Didn't Christ say, the temple's going to be destroyed, so don't cry about it.

[Jay Dyer]

The traditional paraphrasing. No, that's the traditional Christian view. But then evangelical Zionism, which was promoted by the Rothschilds, promoted by Samuel Untermeyer in America to the Schofield Study Bible to get America on board with Balfour Declaration and all of that, which again, the modern nation of Israel is founded as a socialist atheist state, which is weird because that has really nothing to do with Christianity or even traditional believing Judaism.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, right. You know, there's like. I know this sounds insane, but it sounds so crazy. But there's like a far right, like, dolphin cult. Now I'm really being reductive about what

[Jay Dyer]

their is, but the dolphins made me cry. We're back again.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's. I don't know.

[Jay Dyer]

Dolphin cult.

[Kurt Metzger]

What? Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna tell you the name of it because. So I had Dr. Heather Lynn on who was talking about the Anunnaki, which as you know, is a real. And who recommended the banner book to me. And she knows some wild. Very interesting because all the Anunnaki. I've always been disinterested because all that Zachariah Sitchin bolt, you know, that Rockefeller horseshit. But she had some really interesting facts about it. And. Okay, so I'm gonna tell you what she told me because I'd heard this

[Jay Dyer]

right wing dolphin cult.

[Kurt Metzger]

This is me. Like.

[Jay Dyer]

That's your joke.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, I'm condensing it, but I'm not, dude, I'm not. I'm not far from. Okay, okay.

[Jay Dyer]

You're not talking about John C. Lilly, are you?

[Kurt Metzger]

No.

[Jay Dyer]

Although he was in the dolphins. The dolphins made him cry.

[Kurt Metzger]

Let it cry. Let's see, it's. Are you Billy, you big Billy Carson guy, by the way, Billy Corson.

[Jay Dyer]

No, I'm not.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's an ex Jehovah.

[Jay Dyer]

He's what?

[Kurt Metzger]

He's an extra.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, interesting.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And his thing is three figures came in through his wall and. Oh, here we go. Wait, let's see. Is this the same. Let's see. Ashkenazi occult to see themselves as the competing bloodline to the Merovingians Khazar aristocracy back through Byzantine and Central European intermarried into the same Merovingian dragon bloodline, effectively arguing that certain Jewish elite families carry the same sacred or serpentine bloodlines as European royalty. Does that sound like Larry Loomer's? Messages of we'll make an Ashkenazi Aryan baby. Remember Laura Loomer's stupid emails that were baffling to me when I saw them, but now I'm looking at it and I think I know why she's saying yes.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay, well. But okay, so. So I see Dagon, Merovingians. That's where you're getting the dolphin cult.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, yeah, but I thought Dagon is not a fish God. I thought Dagon is a grain God, maybe grain to make fish. But I thought that's some Jordan Maxwell nonsense. He was saying Jordan Maxwell. Oh, because I. Moses looked at God's ass. Yeah, and the tabernacle that flying over Los Angeles. I do know a handful of people I've spoken with who are members of both the London and Paris Masonic lodges and consider themselves Illuminati. Believe some of that dolphin narrative. Now, I'd heard this. Now, this is like a thing I view as retarded, just so you understand. Okay, Is it dolphin me? Okay, this town's very tied into what the thing. Okay, so supposedly Trump and Net Yahoo. Are aligned with some dolphin thing. Creatures that I saw. I. Dude, this is a random thing I saw get on a flight on

[Jay Dyer]

like, we're back to Darius Rucker. This is straight up hoodie. It was always blowfish.

[Kurt Metzger]

Blowfish. So when I hear the. Yeah, the blowfish. Well, blowfish is. But anyway, when I. When I heard that, it stuck with me because it's retarded, right? So I go derp with. I go, how come? But if you watch Daryl James, a secret space program guy who has a wet. Who. I just watch it just to hear the story. Not to tell you, to believe it, just to hear it. Because it's very interesting, okay? It's just fascinating, okay? It's like the Star Trek mirror universe. His whole thing, like, all Nazis and in space, just a Nazi Star Trek where nobody tells Earth there's a Star Trek. Okay? And anyways, I would. When I was looking for Alien, I would watch all these things because I just want to hear something. I haven't heard that. So I'm not bored. Anyway, so I hear this dolphin thing and I said to her. And she goes. And I go, this is like really retarded. But have you ever heard it? She goes, well, I know some people that are. That believe some of that dolphin narrative. They link it to the Merovingians, who claimed their bloodline came from a sea creature called the Kinotar, the Queenotar, a beast of Neptune that traces back Even further than the Sumerian Apkalu, the amphibious sages who brought civilization from the water. Is that the aquatic beings in elite bloodline mythology is ancient. The Starbucks logo is Melissoon Siren Melusin was a serpent woman water fair associated with the Lucinian dynasty. But the broader symbolic thread connects back with this whole current of sacred bloodlines descending from amphibious or aquatic non human beings.

[Jay Dyer]

Human.

[Kurt Metzger]

Now all that NHI they talk about now they keep saying from under this. Under the sea. All the tic tacs come from under the sea up there. It is a mess.

[Jay Dyer]

Ariel. Ariel, that's another name for.

[Kurt Metzger]

They went down here. You rap with a crab.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, yeah. Ariel, by the way, is a name for Israel. It's in Isaiah, I think, but.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I had this guy Ra Castaldon who's a. He's into the. He's Gary Wayne's guy. They does. They do research together. You know Gary Wayne. You never seen Gary Wayne? I do. Should check him a out. I had him on one of my podcasts. I'm a bad interviewer, you know, so you're not going to get the best out of it. But it was a good talking to him and he wrote Genesis 6 conspiracy. Now why I like that guy is think that guy's a genuine Christian. I think he's not phony at all. And I'm really harsh on people I think are phony with their Christianity especially.

[Jay Dyer]

Do I pass the curt test or do I. How do I come out?

[Kurt Metzger]

It depends I guess how pro war you are. But. But I'm talking about like here's the example of what I would think is who I think is a fake. And for one reason Ellie Marzulli, who a lot of people like who. Who I like. But I watch that call these Palestinian kids Amalek. He said they're Amalekites. And I did watch on Jimmy a bunch of orthodox Jews on the border of Gaza. You know the other offense, there's kids starving on one side. They on purpose set up carnival. Like, you know, kids like. Like cotton candy and. And shit so they could look at it. Yeah, they did that on purpose. So that disturbed me for a long time. And then I come to find out there's like 43 more of them videos since then on Tick Tock. That's why Larry Ellison bought it. Yes, because the psychopaths in Israel were bragging about their crime so much and you know, they had. They're like in a time warp without wokeness that was inflicted on us by Wall Street. So they have no concept of how to do Hasbar anymore. They just have no concept of it. And so that should I find very upsetting so call this little starving kid. I had to look at an Amalekite, you know. Really Russell's my jimmies, you know.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. So where do I rank on the curtain meter? Am I. I don't know.

[Kurt Metzger]

I've never. I've never seen you do what I don't know. I mean for me to. For me to make a judgment.

[Jay Dyer]

That's the Kurt smell test. That's.

[Kurt Metzger]

It ain't up to me for me to judge somebody though. You had to say some outrageous thing where I'm like all right so you I know you're on the wrong side so just look I I not. I'm not this where it's okay that oh Trump's got a secret plan but we're gonna have to genocide these kids you dude no more you've I never heard you say some like that but I've watched people talk like that.

[Jay Dyer]

No that's retarded. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I'm just like are you. Do you not get how they do how they're working this whole canny canny pedo thing is because some jerk off is gonna be like I don't feel like thinking about that. Never mind the secret. What were the last we haven't won a war in 80 years. We haven't won. How does that happen where you have a military industrial complex and then go on to never win? Yeah well somebody wanted just not anybody

[Jay Dyer]

that volume Banks won. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean I guess we got some valuable Gilgamesh treasures or something. Inky do and also I'm not a fucking racist. So it bothers me when I hear like anybody being cute and trolley about it. I'm like tell me what the you are. Don't. Don't be a goddamn.

[Jay Dyer]

You mean about Gaza or just race in general?

[Kurt Metzger]

I I find Nick Fuentes to be the biggest piece of I've ever seen because that will say some retard and it you know like pedos do online they like to say like they're just kidding. You know they got to be like. Like the kid from Kiwi Farms is right. He there's these horrific vtubers that they call it Connie posting. You know it's a crab or something means in Japanese it sounds like cunning C U N N Y you know is in a child's vagina. Nick Fuentes fans they call it cunny posting. Really? Yeah. Do you know how he's always bringing up the age of consent. As a feminist.

[Jay Dyer]

Heard this. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Which, I mean, great thing. And, and before everybody gets mad that this is pedo talk, keep in mind he's a homosexual. He wants to set a standard that could never be met by any woman so he doesn't be pressured into doing the trad thing that he's preaching to these other gay kids that are in the closet that probably have a crush on him because they like, like fashy gay fashion, you know, like there is

[Jay Dyer]

a connection between the suppression of the sexual desire and fascism that does exist.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, yeah, I'm retaining my semen so I could hate Jews better.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, there was a, there was a book written about in the. The Reich. Pink swastika. That's it. Where there's like this weird. And I, I suspect that that notorious underground German BDSM type culture is a kind of a manifestation. Which is still there, by the way.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, in the files we find out that Hitler's youth hostel, wherever he stayed, was in Epstein and Rothschild. And they owned the.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, the, the homeless house is correct.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. It sounds like how Charles Manson was found on the streets by Sydney Gottlieb. Yeah, that guy's an agent. They all come out of one part of California. Him and Jim Jones and. I mean, there's a whole list of them. I, I see it start to come out, but most people don't know it or think about it. But we just had a shooting here. This is why I think it's important, because we just had a shooting here.

[Jay Dyer]

Do you think that was an organized. Perfect timing?

[Kurt Metzger]

I think that's one of them MK Monarch retards. They still got left lying around just like Ralph, just like the other kid. Just like the guy that shot the President of Slovenia. Do you know the President of Slovenia was going to investigate. I'll never forgot this story because the President, Slovenia is going to investigate Pfizer. And this is during the pandemic.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, the Kuf. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And, and something. Oh, and stop giving money to Ukraine. And I go, what's this guy want to get shot? Well, not two months later he gets shot by like a 72 year old man with no history of violence.

[Jay Dyer]

Wow.

[Kurt Metzger]

So that's somebody calling a hypnotic suggestion or when you hear the same phrase over and over. I'm worried about the future of democracy or whatever the fuck.

[Jay Dyer]

Or the dolphins make me cry.

[Kurt Metzger]

Whatever it is. There's a bunch of fucking, let's call them Disney adults rattling around that they're gonna hear that hypnotic phrase and it's gonna kick some of them into action. They did this to a lot of people. From what I understand, it's millions of people they did this to. So now what they got to do. Never admit they did this, they gotta slowly do. Because they don't need to do all that to control you. Now I got great news for everybody. You're all such cattle that they don't have to take you underneath Disney World and you in the. And take you in the tunnels of Typhon no more. We've found a better way to do it with, like, I don't know, blue

[Jay Dyer]

light in the open, though.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And it's in the mass initiation.

[Jay Dyer]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

The externalization of the Tulpa dude. Yep.

[Jay Dyer]

ISIS unveiled.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, I think the Epstein files is. That there's. We're gonna tell you what we do. What are you gonna do? Nothing. That one guy in the airport's gonna yell. That's it.

[Jay Dyer]

You know, it's funny. Heidi Fleiss said that when her black book was published. Remember when that was a big controversy, like 20 years ago in the early, late 90s, early 2000s, she was like. That actually, like, made sex workers in this whole industry a lot more acceptable because it was now being discussed by the entire nation. And then people didn't care anymore.

[Kyle Dunnigan]

So.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I don't think it's an accident. And I think they have their.

[Jay Dyer]

On the way to, like, normalizing a lot of the stuff.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's a pyramid. It's like a pyramid's a generational project. That's why they love that. To me, I think they love it because it's this generational thing. And these are the people that think ahead in generations. That's why they name all their kids after themselves to, like, the fourth, because it's like a way of cloning without, you know, like, you could just see what they're doing and then. And they plant. Whereas poor people. You're in a state of. You have to just survive every day.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So there's your hypnosis of the day.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Hopefully you're addicted to something. You got to worry about that. You can't worry about what I'm doing. I mean, it's such a perfect method of control. And. And I really do think that these got it from someone way back because it's that perfect. It's like, I'm not. I don't believe in astrology, you know, because I'm a Gemini. And we're skeptical, obviously, but I don't think the astrology. The rich people Use is the same as the one dipshits get to use.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I think what they're using is something akin to a statistical science. Okay. As Joseph P. Pharaoh. No, they're orthodox. Aren't you familiar with Feral? Yeah, yeah. Feral is great, dude, but it, it, it'll. If you have thousands of years of observing things based on. And so when people being born on certain dates is very important. So. I mean the story of Jesus. Why do you send three Persian wizard hitmen to go find them? They do this to. They lie about their birthdates and shit. Because they're making war on each other. Do you know that?

[Jay Dyer]

You think they're hitman?

[Kurt Metzger]

The three magi were not good guys. No, the star was not. That's being led to Herod is trying to kill all the firstborn. I know that. Yeah. So. Well, look, that's what I was taught.

[Jay Dyer]

It's funny. I just think it's funny.

[Kurt Metzger]

One of the things that Jovi's have. A few things that I was taught that I think are right still. That being one of them. The other one being you can't join the military and God doesn't approve any government. He allows their authority to be in place. But this seven mountains mandate, where you're supposed to go to battle. Jesus clearly said the majority of people ain't gonna. Ain't gonna get it. There's no mass awakening. That's horseshit.

[Jay Dyer]

That's a political thing about new absolute reformation. Seven mountain mandate.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, but how many. It's just another version of the same thing. If we're gonna go conquer and say it's God, but I don't think God really is telling you you to do that. I think you just want to do that. And I think that you've heard of Caesar's Messiah, right? Yeah, I never bought that because I don't believe top down works that well. What I think is Christ was populism to such a degree. What do they hate the most? Populism. Okay. People not blaming the guy next to him, but blaming the leaders is. We can't have that ever. Right. And I think that spread so quickly that Constantine took the Persian model that had already been done with Zoroastrianism. They had already done this in Persia. So he had a model to work from. And so he just fuses it together because his generals and shit are all doing them.

[Jay Dyer]

The Mithra cult, the model from Persia, like Cyrus. What do you mean?

[Kurt Metzger]

Whoever was dug it just before Constantine. So the Mithra cult is like the Freemason of its Time, Right. So Mitra is a God, but Mithra is some theosophy style alchemy, Hobo chili.

[Jay Dyer]

It was a soldier culture.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's what these things are that in our military, they're a soldier. In fact, intel, you could say is a soldier cult in general. It to me, the appeal of Christianity is you. You get to know your beliefs up front for free. You don't have to pay money. You don't have to find out later that you think xenu is a thing. You go, you know, up front what the deal is. That's. I used to knock on doors trying to sell this. So I'm telling you, the selling point is that it don't cost no money and Christ is trying to save you from the slavery you're born into. So there's no mystery cult shit. That's Babylonian. The mystery cult is J.J. abrams mystery box storytelling horseshit to keep you coming back week after week for a very disappointing ending. So Lost and Scientology kind of have the same disappointment.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, like Z new. That's what the end was like. You like. Did you just make this up as you went along, like that?

[Jay Dyer]

Lost had a shitty ending, you're saying?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And Jay James called it mystery box.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, he called. Everybody was disappointed in the ending of Lost. Yeah, I got you now.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, why aren't more people disappointed? Well, I guess plenty of people disappointed in the ending of Scientology because it doesn't have a lot of members. They have to lie. But it's a CIA cutout, so, yeah, that's why it's still there and.

[Jay Dyer]

And banned. Like James, witnesses were because they're used by intelligence, which.

[Kurt Metzger]

Dude. My mother will tell me about how Russia is persecuting Joe's witnesses. And. And so naive as I am, Mo is surprised by the despic, by the absolute infiltration by intel covens into every aspect of life. Quite a shock, but they're in everything. They're continuing. Yo. Joe's club, I'm sure, is lousy with intel. Of course it is. He's the seat of Western power now because Trump got elected. So I promise you, there's all kinds of. There's probably private spooks and who's.

[Jay Dyer]

Who's the top spook comedian? And are they.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know.

[Jay Dyer]

But are they any good? Are they no good?

[Kurt Metzger]

I would say if. If you're really funny as a comedian and you're also a spy, I'm impressed because I would say, I would say that's really good if you could be like, yeah, this guy maybe have been one. I don't know. Bob Hope wasn't funny. He was MK Ultra.

[Jay Dyer]

He was a handler. Yeah, exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right. He'd say some and do the good. When they always had golf club.

[Jay Dyer]

Do you think, like the A list levels of like the Will Ferrells and those types are.

[Kurt Metzger]

I think you got to just show you'll be cool no matter what. And then how far you go depends on the opportunity to be somewhere and show your class, as the Hell's Angels put it.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And you show class. Right. Right. By being down. And then all these rappers you see that ain't had a hit in years, why are they still around? Why are they showing up? Reality show, which is.

[Jay Dyer]

You know what Cat Williams say? They go in the booty hole. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And people accuse him of that. I don't know who go. Went in what Typhon tunnel, but. And I also don't give that much of a. I just am amazed at the level of. You got to do some gay. If you're straight, you're gonna have. If you're gay, you have to pretend you're straight. Like it's not just like, if you're straight, you gotta do gay. Right. But, oh, you're gay, you're gonna do some straight. Whatever you don't like, you gotta do that. I need to see your loyalty.

[Jay Dyer]

Left hand path. That's the whole. Do the opposite of what you believe in, and then we know that you're loyal.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, yeah. Would you do anything? It's in Kingsman. I was probably in a book in Kingsman. You got to shoot your dog.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah. The Nazis did that. British indulgence. Yep.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, Mossad does as well.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. No, it's good to adopt the. The evil of your enemies. That's the most important thing. And then you got a great moon child. Like Hitler. That's why they love him.

[Jay Dyer]

Exactly.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's an empty vessel. And if they got the right night to conceive and all that they go through. Yo, there's people clocking when you're born. It's just like at the funeral homes where they sell body parts. And you always hear a story about that. There's a big one in Pennsylvania. Saw that. Right. Oh, wow. The guy had been selling.

[Jay Dyer]

I've heard of those, but I didn't know it was a recent thing.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And so the guy. So also when you're being born, there's all kinds of creep doctors in on this. Yeah, yeah. And they're gonna take your blood and they're Gonna send it somewhere and they could get. I bet they get a little head hunt bounty. Hey, this kid's born. It was Eclipse's kid was born.

[Jay Dyer]

He's a Gemini. He's a Metzger.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what that's where I don't. I doubt that. Thus far it hasn't proven to be that valuable. But there's still time. But because of the way. Have you heard all this about like how they believe. How they believe these sun cults? So basically you'll hear this new age thing. It's like. Like a light frequency. That's why the star position is so important because different bodies are shining down. And I guess that's that plasma around the earth and all influences. Yeah, that's like the allegories about the river of sticks and all that. That's a plasma river.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And so what do people see plasma balls when they do that stupid CE5. You know that thing when you use your phone, like a Ouija board to contact UFOs. You ever do it?

[Jay Dyer]

No.

[Kurt Metzger]

You wanna.

[Jay Dyer]

We did do Randonautica one time and it took us to a weird spot.

[Kurt Metzger]

We did what?

[Jay Dyer]

That's that app that people were doing like a couple years ago where it's like quantum AI that tells you to go to some location and something weird will occur.

[Kurt Metzger]

Did it happen?

[Jay Dyer]

Well, in many cases it does. Like people found like dead bodies, they found treasure. All kind of weird.

[Kurt Metzger]

I never heard of that. That sounds way more interesting than C5.

[Jay Dyer]

And it did take us to the true story. We. The first time we did it, it didn't work every time. But after a couple times it took us to a place out in the middle of nowhere. And we think that it was probably people meeting up for a lady of the evening, shall we say?

[Kurt Metzger]

Interesting.

[Jay Dyer]

It was. And it was real. Yeah, it happened.

[Kurt Metzger]

I wonder if it was like Patous, my. My beloved children's book character, Patouche. She was an Indian boy pretending to be A.I. you know, A.I. is like artificial. Indians go out at this time.

[Jay Dyer]

Right now you have a crazy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because Albania, you know, Albania's got an AI Prime Minister. Right.

[Jay Dyer]

I heard this. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And she's pregnant with 83 young like Yog. So thought. Wait, who's the black she? Goat of the woods of H.P.

[Jay Dyer]

lovecraft.

[Kurt Metzger]

Shub Nigroth. Yeah, the racist stereotype of the woods with a thousand yards.

[Jay Dyer]

The N word, Kurt.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, it's nigure Roth. So it's Jewish. Really? Did. You're wrong.

[Jay Dyer]

It's Kabbalistic. Actually, the book. There's a whole chapter on Lovecraft and the Kabbalah in that book.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, yo. Do you know then that Necronomicon they talk about, that's supposedly a real one? That's. Lavender wrote that. Peter Lavender wrote that.

[Jay Dyer]

His book Simon. And that is he. It's the Lovecraft is the author, or excuse me, gives the ideas for the Simon Necronomicon, which I think is. Is that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, yeah. You ever do Sean David Patrick has the show Through a Glass Darkly. That's a good show, dude. That guy has some good on there.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay. Who?

[Kurt Metzger]

Sean Patrick Haslett. It's called Through a Glass Darkly.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

But you should talk to him, dude. That would be a good show.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Really, my show is just to meet people and tell them about other people they should talk to.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay. Other people's podcasts. That's meta. I like it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. You down with OPP Beef?

[Jay Dyer]

You down with ccp?

[Kurt Metzger]

All right, I got a pee. So that you. I don't know what you all want. Thank you for the book, by the way. That's a Tower Hollywood 3, which I cannot wait. Like it, dude. I cannot wait.

[Jay Dyer]

It's extreme of consciousness derp style.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, that's how you gotta channel it, you know?

[Jay Dyer]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

I. I really.

[Jay Dyer]

The telluric influences of the shub nigger Roth. I fatho my information Typhonian. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Typhonian ass magic. I'm a master. I just gaped your fourth eye right now.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, touching butts.

[Kurt Metzger]

I just gave you a stream from my second butthole up here.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, no.

[Kurt Metzger]

And you know, hopefully that entered your fourth eye and now we're in the convergence of the zone theory.

[Jay Dyer]

We're full on zone theory.

[Kurt Metzger]

All right, you just got derped.