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MK ULTRA MEGA STREAM! DARK SECRETS REVEALED! -Jay Dyer
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Jay Dyer
I got a feels that's a season I want to slide this out you now be get over here now I got a hex stars now you gonna punch that in the good right now get over here on now somebody heaven I not the punch in the good bitch
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she got a dem I did
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a coochie she got a deeper diva she got a diva. I got a feel that's a season I'm on a slab the out of sh get over here now I got a hex styles now oh you don't punch that in that girl right now get over here on now somebody heaven I'm not the perms and the good bitch. She got a divot in a cruel tonight she got a divot in a primer sa. I got a feeling oh I want to slide this out you nappy get over here now I got a hex stars now you gonna punch that in the good right now get over here on now somebody heaven I not the plum shin the good
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she got a dema did a cool tonight she got
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a diva diva die she got a
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diva diva now she got a deeper diva Sam.
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I got a feel that's a season I'm on a sl the out of shop get over here now I got a hex st now oh he don't punch that in that girl right now get over here on now somebody heaven I not the punch and the good
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it's hunch trainer
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she got a deeper in a cruise now she got a deeper in a PR I'm about a cruelty.
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Did you ever have victory outreach experience when you're on the west coast? What is that? It's basically like Cholo church. Oh, really? Cholo church? Hey, dude, this is straight up, bro. Look, homie, you could go anywhere, bro. So cholo church. I'd be going here instead of freaking Rusevo's church or whatever, dude. Cholo church. Dude, this church is about 50 times less gay than freaking Roosevelt, bro. Cholo church. Dude, how come I didn't even know about freaking Cholo Church, jb Dude, how come you ain't at Cholo Church, bro? Cholo church. He's over here trying to get inside of the freaking Ruslan's butt, buddy church. Cholo church. Do you need to go to cholo church? I'm gonna grab me a little blonde haired, blue eyed white boy and put him on the white side of town, you know? And if that ain't good enough, I'm gonna grab me a little ching ching, ping pong playing China boy and put him on The Asian side of town. Whoa, dude. Damn, bro. They based as hell over at cholo church. They making freaking white dude jugs, Chinese drugs all. They don't even give a. How do all the cholo women like, they were fat before everybody was fat, dude. It's like cholo women were just always like a circle, dude. Like, they was born coming out like a circle, bro. Like, they didn't even go through like a transformation where they were like high when they were young or whatever. Like, they was just straight a circle the whole time, bro. The spheres, bro. That's the orbs that Sams was talking about. And how could you refute me or whatever?
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I got a feels that's a season. I want to slide this out you Nappy B, get over here now. I got a hex stars now you going to punch that in the good right now, Bis, get over here on now. Somebody heaven. I not the plum in the good.
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What's up, nerds?
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Jamie
Welcome, everybody.
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Jay Dyer
It's time to get into it. We have huge evening of streams immediately after this. We will transition as you know, into tonight's sort of debate. I don't know if I can call it a debate, but friendly exchange. Is that a safe enough term for all of you people? Is that a safe space term for you snowflakes? What if we have a friendly exchange with our trad cat buddy David Riley? You probably know him as blonde in the belly of the beast. Co host. They've always been friendly to what we do. They've had me on their show. We've had some good conversations. So we're gonna have a conversation with a trad cat tonight about the SSPX status and excommunication. What does that mean? What does it mean for people in the trad cat world in terms of Rome, in terms of Orthodoxy? I'm not 100 sure if David Riley attends the SSPX, so we're gonna have to find all that out tonight. I don't know a lot of the details, but we'll see and I'm sure we'll have a good conversation. I don't need to be mean to have friendly conversations, so I'm looking forward to that. That will be immediately after today. Did you see Pearl did a video about you? No, I don't know anything about Pearl's videos. I don't keep up with Pearl. What's the Pearl video about me.
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Jamie
Sh.
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Jay Dyer
Right now? I hate them. Actually, I didn't. If anything, I'm trying. I don't think I was that mean about her. Interviews. So I don't know why she said, I hate them. That seems like a little extreme. We make jokes about all kinds of stuff, so I don't know. But today, because there are hearings about MK Ultra. Hearings about MK Ultra. And for those that don't know, we had the representative journalist Tom o', Neill, who wrote Chaos with regard to the Mansons. He. I didn't realize this until today. Somebody sent me this video, so I thought it'd be a good topic to discuss today. I didn't know he was, as an author, would be invited to testify.
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Testify right now. Got an MK Ultra demon in a.
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Guest Expert
Cool.
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Jay Dyer
But I noticed that when I search for my many talks on MKUltra, I would say we've done probably 10 times on this subject. Guess what comes up in the YouTube search? Like one or two. So essentially I spoke for hours on end on the subject for no reason whatsoever, only to speak to 8 or 10,000 people at the time. So perfect timing to rehearse this information and actually get back into two of the key documents, two key texts that were written very early on. And I would say with this new information that we have these classic texts. You have the Walter Boer book, Operation Mind Control, first written in 1978. And then John Marks, his classic book, CIA and Mind Control and the Search for the Manchurian Candidate, who also wrote other CIA tell all sort of critiques. This is the Marks book there and. But it was written a little bit later, maybe 1982, I think. So a few years later, the books cover some of the same material, but they also have some of their own unique insights and information. And then Jamie also has quite a bit in her books that will look at a few of the imagery, symbolic, archetypal associations that are made with regard to MK Ultra. And of course, I wrote a trilogy that speaks heavily of MK Ultra Hollywood 1, 2 and 3. I've got another stack of books over here as well that will relate to MK Ultra, all of which seem to be pretty much vindicated. Now, given that there's new hearings, I don't expect there to be much new in these hearings. There could be new information. As you guys probably know, there were 14 boxes supposedly of books relating to MK Ultra files, and MK Ultra files were half destroyed by, I want to say, Richard Helms. I think he ordered them to be destroyed. Seven of the 14 were destroyed and supposedly there's only seven left. And that's at least the story of what's going on. And so we're going to start with Operation Mind Control. By Bulwart. This one was pretty thorough and I'm a little pissed off because I did an entire discussion of this and it's disappeared. I don't know if it got pulled or, or what, but there are versions of these still out there. So you can find most of these at the website archived and in the member section. I also have a separate talk for members that almost nobody knows about, which is MK Ultra operations in Australia. I stumbled upon a book written a few years ago on just MK ULTRA in Australia. It was very fascinating and it really opened up a window into how broad these operations were. They were not just located in the United States, they were present throughout the Western world, throughout the Commonwealth, of course, porting down Tavistock. They were participating in the other side of the Atlantic in the same operations under different code names, as well as in the us, Canada, and also, as we know now, Australia and probably many other countries. You know, with Gladio, we saw a very similar situation where over time we learned that Gladio didn't have cells just in Italy, but all throughout Europe. And so as time goes by, as more stuff gets declassified, more people write books, more and more information gets collated. We learn more about the Mkheltra projects. And I think the best place to start would be to look at some of the symbology that we associate with it for good reason. And so one of the things that Jamie highlighted in her two books, she wrote a book called Weird Stuff and some of that info, some of that symbology, I think you'll note that this type of trauma based mind control, which is usually associated with Operation Monarch, we'll get into Monarch here in a little bit. We'll talk about the gateway process, we'll talk about Stanford research, all of those adjacent types of programs. But Jamie argues in her essays that it's also used quite often in fiction. And so she tied it into pop culture. Over the years, we've seen a lot of pop artists, really kind of almost like zombies, adopt all the symbology that goes along with the archetypes of MK Ultra. We could say, for example, I'm sure we've all seen the pop stars doing the one eye, all seeing eye, left eye, etc. Now obviously it doesn't mean that every one of these pop stars knows everything about what's going on. Many of them just do the symbols and they, they think they're throwing gang signs because it looks cool. However, many of them are actually initiated into witchcraft. Many of them might even be into Cabala. We know for sure that Madonna for example, is a kabbalist. Lady Gaga has spoken of influence from Marina Abramovich, other witches. We know that Katy Perry speaks of being initiated into witchcraft. So I think a lot of the symbology here is more so explicitly, perhaps out of witchcraft, but also crolian. And we know, for example, that Jay Z and Beyonce are devotees openly of Aleister Crowley. And they've discussed that. It's been well known for probably 15 years now. And so when you look at the imagery that they use, it's. It's often kind of repeated styles and repeated archetypal pictures, archetypal structures. We will find, for example, Beyonce playing quite often on Metropolis imagery, where she's sort of like the AI Sex bot that's created in Metropolis. She does that all the time. She uses a lot of Masonic imagery. She's the queen bee in the sense of the beehive. That's actually pretty prominent in Mormonism and Freemasonry. And you'll notice down there at the bottom, that's the triangle of manifestation. If you read Crowley or if you study anything to do with witchcraft. And that's definitely what's going on with Jay Z. Because as. As a devotee of Crowley, they learned very early on to do what they call a triangle of manifestation, whereby they position their eye and they believe that through will and intentionality they can. Will yo. They can manifest that dog. They could cause it to manifest if you are powerful wizard.
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Guest Expert
Also.
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Jay Dyer
A lot of artists, I think, are susceptible to this type of cult, this type of thinking, because artists are, you know, creative types. They tend to be influenced by imagery, by feeling, by emotion, and perhaps things that normies or normal people. And obviously artists can be normies, but they're influenced by things that we might not necessarily connect. So association at a level of right brain, left brain integration is something that's the case in a lot of artists and very successful artists or musicians. And so they're able to think and see patterns perhaps at a level that many people do not. But also you can have an illicit version of that, an invalid version of that, which is just schizophrenia. Sometimes artists become schizos. So we want to be careful to avoid the schizo tier of this kind of stuff. And thinking something like, oh, every time a butterfly appears, that's Monarch, CIA, MK Ultra mind control. Not necessarily. Really depends on who put the image there, who the artist is, why they're doing it, what their thought was, or perhaps producers and handlers behind the scenes. That's also a possibility. But no, it's not the case that every time a cross appears, every time a lion appears. Right. These are images that can be somewhat versatile. For example, Gnostics use their own Gnostic Cross. Does that mean that every time I see a cross, it's a Gnostic cross? Crowley uses an image of a chalice and a dove coming into the chalice. Does that mean that every time it's see a chalice and a dove, it's croweanism? No, that's common in Latin Roman Catholic churches. And that's not all croweanism. Although maybe in the Roman Catholic Church's case, it might be quite a few crolians, you know, sneaking around, touching butts. So symbols are polyvalent. Symbols have multiple layers to them. And the meaning of any symbol, especially if it's something very generic, very broad, like a geometric structure, like a triangle. Triangles are everywhere. Okay. They don't always mean illuminate. Confirm. So we want to be careful to avoid a symbolic version of the word concept fallacy, where we just assume that a single symbol has a single referent that leads to schizo. That's why Charles Manson literally said Jesus is the devil, because they're both in the scriptures as a lion. All right, so if there's a roaring lion that's going around seeking who may. Whom he may devour, and it's a lot, and, well, that's the devil, Peter says, then Jesus is the devil. You see, that's literally Manson, Carl Jung level argumentation. Masons do the same thing. Lucifer is the morning star, but Jesus is also described as the morning star, therefore Jesus is Lucifer. You see how stupid this is? It's literally insane schizo level stuff. And it's the same type of mistake that people make with the word concept fallacy. All right, so with those caveats out of the way, and if you want Jamie's essays on pop culture and mind control, I wrote, helped her write one of the chapters in this book. So this is also a little bit partly me. You can get signed copies at the website in the shop of my books and Jamie's books. So let's get into Walter Bowart's. This is one of the first books written exposing MK ULTRA in the west. And BO did a really good job. And I think most of what he wrote has been vindicated. Bower says that really the goal of MK Ultra is to create a kind of zombie population that could be controlled through a variety of means. So it's not just a matter, for example, of finding the CIA assassin, you know, sex op girl who's gonna, you know, choke Putin out in a, in a honeypot sex operation, right? It's not Scarlett Johansson in Black Widow or Mila Jovovich in Resident Evil. There was a, an element of that kind of stuff where they did study people at that level. Part of, for example, Monarch and Artichoke and other operations that are classed under MK Ultra. But in reality, as Boer correctly says, he says, I read Zbigniew Brzezinski and when I read Brzezinski's technocratic mind control book, which is essentially between two ages, how to create a technocratic technotronic era, Pop up the jam, Pump it up Technotronic. It's much more than the idea of just creating assassins out of our children. It's actually to create a zombie population of zombie kids and zombie, zombie public. So invisible weapons or psychotronic weapons, as you may know, emf, vlf, that type of technology which is real, which was mentioned in many documents mentioned in Brzezinski's Between Two Ages. Bower begins the book by saying that these developed out of MK Ultra projects. Probably everybody's seen the Manchurian Candidate movie from the 1950s. Frank Sinatra is in it and that's based on the Richard Condon novel. But what's unfortunate about that presentation of one of the first pop culture presentations of MK Ultra, if you've not seen it, you probably would for research purposes, enjoy it. It's kind of a slow movie. I think Angela Lansbury is in it. Let me, let me find the old one. But the problem with this movie is that as you can imagine, this is set in the Cold War. The Cold war, excuse me, 1962. I think the novels from the 50s, because it's based on a novel. And then of course they remade it in 2004 with, with Denzel. It's a pretty good version too. But if you go Back to the 1962 version with Frank Sinatra, the problem with this presentation of it is that it's clearly Cold War propaganda. The problem is not the Soviets these days, right? We're not having to do MK Ultra secret mind control research because of Soviets. But that was the justification back then, as we will see as to why they, quote, had to do it. If we don't do it, the Soviets will. And so in this presentation you have, I think Sinatra is kind of the lead in this kind of busting up this mind control operation run by Sino Soviets, right? So you've got Chinese, hence Manchurian Candidate, you've got Soviets, and they kidnap various soldiers and brainwash Them to come back and be communist assassins for the Soviet state, the super state. And there are some interesting elements that were used in the film very early on, like the idea of mind control, symbology and triggers. You know, you have the girl wearing the playing card, the queen, this kind of stuff. But the problem with this, this movie again is that it's a little slow. And it's also just set within Cold War dialectics. Like, oh, it's not the CIA doing this. No, no, you see, it's the Soviets doing it. It's Stalin, it's Andropov, it's Brezhnev, it's Gorbachev, it's all the Soviets doing the mind control. And in America, no, we're all about freedom, bro. We're all about that freedom dog. We would never ever do such a thing. Of course that's obviously not true because the west was engaging in all the exact same mind control operations. And the Soviets had their own programs and versions of this. They, they even had a version of Stanford Research Project SCI Spies. Mark Hacker translated some good KGB essays and histories relating to the Soviet version of SCI Spies, their version of Project Stargate. If you watch the terrible Steven Spielberg, Indiana Jones with Cate Blanchett where she's playing like that Soviet SCI spy that Indiana Jones 4 is about, that
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want to know your mind. So I would say Manchurian, Canada is worth watching just for historical insight, but it is absolutely Cold War propaganda. When they did the Denzel update, it's interesting they added in the idea of implantable microchips. So in this story Denzel was deployed, I want to say to Vietnam or something like that. Maybe it was Desert Storm, I think it's Vietnam. But he finds another soldier who was in Desert Storm who also underwent MK Ultra style mind control. And I won't spoil the whole story for you, but it turns out in this version that the soldiers are being trained and ultimately they're looking for the perfect political assassin. So there's a private corporation that has taken some of these soldiers and they've mind controlled Leave Schreiber to be a political assassin. And one thing I did appreciate about the the update is in the updated version they make it a corporation. So that's a private corporation that's engaging in the mind control rather than the Soviet state or the Sino Soviets. And this is also similar. If you saw the Warren Beatty movie Parallax View. Parallax view is another MK Ultra classic type of movie. This is from the 1970s and in this version Warren Beatty plays this Sort of broke ass journalist who's on, on the case. He's got the scoop and he tracks down this, this story about mind control and creating, you know, microl assassins to a corporation that's going to do a high profile event with some political, some politician. And it's, it's a, it's a pretty good movie. I won't spoil it. But as you can imagine, Warren Beatty does end up also having to enlist in the MK Ultra mind control projects. Yeah, leave Schreiber is the patsy. I'm not saying that he, he's the one that they chose to be the sort of assassin for another high profile political person. So we've seen this type of story repeated throughout Hollywood and Hollywood loves to just keep it at the level of, you know, the individual spy. I did a video on Black Widow. Black Widow was a more recent fictional presentation of the same stuff right when they did the Marvel Scarlett Johansson story of, of her character Black Widow. She is a Soviet ballerina chick and she's brought into a honey trap. So she's intended to be another one of these sex operatives. I don't know why the video is not working. And she's kidnapped when she's young. So there's quite a, quite a bit of revelation in this one because if I recall it's Mila Jovovich's daughter plays her when she's young and she's kidnapped and put into a mind control program to be an assassin. But of course she gets saved and recruited by the west and she becomes an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. which if you follow the narrative of Marvel, S.H.I.ELL is actually Bilderberg and NATO. They actually say, you know, Samuel L. Jackson is working for NATO. So the so called good guys, right, are actually the bad guys. But I did a video if you want to see it, breaking down MK ULTRA and symbolism in Black Widow. So to get back to Walter Bower's presentation, by the way, if you want to support the stream, you can do so through super chats. Super chats are done through streamlabs. The link is pinned. You can also super chat me through YouTube natively if you feel so inclined. Any of your questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. By the way, I've also, I've read pretty much most of the public books that are out there on MK Ultra. So it's a subject that I do know very well. There's one book I've not read yet, which I do have, but I'm looking forward to getting into and that's Gordon Thomas who's written many books on intelligence history and espionage. He wrote the famous Mossad history, Gideon Spice, which we've mentioned many, many times. But he also has a book on MK Ultra but I've not read that one yet. But I feel like given sort of the, the theme of the critiques of MK Ultra are usually centered around illicit medical experimentation. Right? And I mean, that's not bad. I'm not saying that there aren't victims. We had, of course the Canadian government has apologized to the victims. The US government has apologized to the. Bill Clinton even did a public. I won't apologize to the victims of MK Ultra. Wink, wink. He did an apology many years ago. So it's been well known and admitted people have gotten payouts for being abused in these various programs. And you know, it's not that it's wrong to come out and talk about these victims, it's just that it's really missing what the purpose of all this was. Everybody still thinks because of movies that the purpose of all this was just to create the perfect mind controlled sex slave or to create the perfect, you know, Mila Jovovich assassin or something. That's not the real purpose. The purpose was mastering the mind, mastering the inner world, such that the masses could be controlled. And that's the element that nobody ever talks about. That's the whole purpose of it. I mean, what's the purpose of a perfect mind control assassin when political assassinations are actually very rare? Furthermore, you don't actually need a mind controlled assassin or some lunatic that you've shot up with a thousand drugs when you can hire a hitman like governments have hired mafia for over a century to carry out political assassinations. You don't actually have to have some risky operation of some drugged up lunatic, although you can have that. Those type of people can make good patsies. There have been many patsies for these types of operations. In fact, there was a, there was a Marky Mark Wahlberg movie called Shooter. And Shooter has sort of the same pattern of the idea of the guy who's, you know, just the patriot type of soldier guy who gets, you know, brought into something and then he's the patsy and then he has to prove that he didn't really do it. And A Shooter is a pretty good movie. It has this exact same theme. But again, I'm not going to talk too much more about all the Hollywood stuff. Last one I'll mention is, and there's quite a few of these, I mean there's, you know, this is a trope in so many movies and we've covered it so many times. It's not. There's Banshee chapter, there's American Ultra with Jesse Eisenberg, all based on MK Ultra and put into, you know, very fictional Hollywood eyes presentation. There's also, I think, Identity with John Cusack. And we did a whole breakdown of both Identity and Butterfly Effect with Ashton Kutcher. If you come over here to this video that I did probably five, six, seven years ago, we broke all those movies down so you can get into the more Hollywood side of it. But today I want to focus on the actual documents, on what was going on. So I think it's interesting that he just comes right out Bower and says the idea is to just create zombies. They really want to create a zombie population that they can control. Some of the early experiments and the MKTRA experiments begin initially back in the 1940s, they experimented with weed. So marijuana was one of the first things they experimented with. And they wanted to find a true serum. So they were using different drugs and saying, can we give some of these soldiers, they began testing with army soldiers a truth serum that would make them tell the truth. And this is another aspect to this. Most people don't know. And this is something that is theorized by Dr. Richard Spence, not Richard Spencer, the Zionist guy. Richard Spence, the intelligence historian whom we've interviewed, he wrote a book on Crowley called Secret Agent 666. And in that book he says there's a very interesting possibility that Crowley, who wrote a bunch of drug diaries, right? This is Aleister Crowley writing these diaries about his and other people's experiences on various drugs, what they would tap into, what kind of experiences they would have, deities, demons, creative influences, etc. And he thinks that because Crowley partied pretty heavily in many instances with Aldous Huxley, they partied together. I don't know if that means Touch and Bots, but I wouldn't be surprised that that also led Huxley and the British side of this to also have their version of MKUltra. Perhaps their version was even first. If we look at Doors of Perception, which we covered in depth a couple years ago, we have a whole lecture on this book. This is a very closely adjacent, deep dive into MK Ultra type stuff before MK Ultra. In fact, he's describing his intense LLSD experiences in 1954. Or maybe it's mescaline or peyote. I forget exactly what it is. But we have a whole lecture on that book and then we learn that when we get into books, Like Brave New World, we're seeing the application of those same principles. Now, Brave New world was written 20 years before, 22 years before doors of Perception. But you can begin to see that it's the same elite power structure in the UK and in the west, in America that's in, that's using studies on drugs, cults, shamans, shamanism, Amanita mascara, the Shroom. Right. Gordon Watson, as you probably know, sends or is sent with JP Morgan money to go find various entheogens in Latin and South America, various mushrooms and so forth that could be synthesized into some form of truth serum or some form of mind control drug. Powerful hallucinogens, and that becomes lsd. That's eventually synthesized by Sandoz Pharmaceuticals and Abby Hoffman. But some of the other projects that are also part of MK Ultra are things like memory studies and wiping out memories or recovering lost memories. I need to see if I can find that one. There was a very helpful page some years back that had a list of all the titles of MK Ultra sub projects. And this is because MK Ultra was not one project. MKUltra was a host of dozens of projects at dozens of universities all over the world studying everything from shamanism and the occult to mental telepathy, telekinesis to remote viewing to indigenous religions, indigenous religious drug practices, shrooms, entheogens, etc, sleep studies were a big part of MK Ultra. Near death experiences were a big part of MK Ultra. Let me see if I can find that one. There's one page that has a list. It used to come up. I might have it saved. This is it. But it's, it's, this is way too. Let me check my bookmarks because I forgot to bring this up. I think I have it saved in my bookmarks here. Yes, this is it. Perfect. Can't believe I found it. And this is a very helpful list here from government documents, from National Archives. So even though this is at a site website based around abuse and ritual ra, you can see the title of all the documents. And so this is the first box from 1940s to 1970s. And this is the box of documents that are under the classification of artichoke. So you're going to notice that there's, there's odd names, there's Bluebird, there's Monarch, there's artichoke. These are all sort of projects with many other sub projects underneath them. And MK ULTRA is just sort of a blanket term that covers kind of a lot of these mind control projects. It's still debated actually what MK stands for. A lot of people think that it's the German because in Marx's book he says there was this German name for, you know, mind controller and that that's where it comes from. Who knows? It's not, it's not 100 sure, as far as I'm aware. But you'll notice that we see in box 1, under sub projects of Artichoke we have studies of LSD first and foremost, LSD in the air Force and the Smithsonian. So you can begin to see like wait a minute, there's all kinds of crazy that you wouldn't even think has a connection. What does, what does LSD and the Air Force have to do with the Smithsonian plants in isolation? In the characterization of Rivia coramboza drugs in general? The Mulholland Manual. What is that? Mullen Drive? Who knows what that is? Denver University Hypnosis studies. This is another element that people overlook. Hypnosis was a huge part of MK Ultra even to the point of a lot of psychology and sociology throughout these decades is part of McCulture Projects. Some of them were done even without the participants and the doctors and the researchers even knowing they were part of MK Ultra. For example, John Marks will highlight the Human Ecology Fund which was set up with this innocuous name of Human Ecology. And a lot of the people engaged in that research, getting the grants and whatnot, they didn't even know they were part of MK ultra. It just had these innocuous code names. So hypnosis was a big part of it. Office of Naval Research is mentioned here studying depressants and schizophrenics and alcoholism, botanicals, personality assessments. In fact, John Marks has another paper that he wrote that I found some years back where he shows that I just went blank. Who's that? Abraham Maslow. Maslow's hierarchy of needs and the entire development of the personality profile of intj, inf, sspx, all the infp, intp, whatever, that's all comes out of MK Ultra studies. And the reason they did that was at that time they wanted a. A way to classify world leaders into these personality profiles that they thought could give them an edge in terms of international relations and geopolitics and espionage. So even the hierarchy of needs of Abraham Maslow was part of all this? Yeah, of course Sidney got leave. He's going to be mentioned very prominently. I mean we're not even going to be able to get to all of the doctors because there's. There were so many I've got right here. This is a very rare Book. I don't even know if you can get this. In fact, I think this is Jamie's book. Jamie actually got a physical copy of Dr. Jose Delgado, famous for putting the mind control chips inside of the bulls and the animals. Right. His book, Physical Control of the Mind Towards a Psycho Civilized Society. So even from the title you can tell that. What's a psycho civilized society? Oh, that's talking about Clockwork Orange, right? That's what they do to Alex in Clockwork Orange. I've. I've got. As you guys know, we've covered this one. This is a actual MK Ultra Dr. MKUltra book. Dr. John C. Lilly, the weirdo that had the dolphin fetish who thought that he was stepping outside of time and space to the edge of the universe to be bathed in the white light of the beyond. That's how he describes it. John C. Lilly was an MKULTRA doctor and of course he was one of the pioneers of implantable RFID microchips in monkeys and he was doing all that research for the Navy. But in this book here he actually describes dosing children with lsd. So you can begin to see that these are absolute lunatics. They're mad scientists and they're part of the cult of intelligence according to Bowart. But I think it's very relevant that we look through more of these insane, just all over the place projects. By the way, guys, if you want to support the stream, nobody else is covering the full story of MK Ultra. So if you are enjoying this information, please support the stream through super chats right there. Accordingly. I guess I'm a grifter if you ask for super chats, but that's what pays the bills. That's what keeps the lights on, dog. Yeah, Psycho civilized society run by Circle. In fact, one of the most prolific serial killers in Australian history was the one doing the sleep studies and putting people all the way to the edge of death and then bringing them back. His name was Harry. Harry. Harry something. I forget his name. I always forget this guy's name when bringing up. But he's Australia's most prolific serial killer, but he was working in a mental institute in a hospital. So he's not a serial killer because he wore a lab coat. And if you wear a lab coat, you're. You're not a killer, obviously, you're a science man. Let me bring that up because I always forget that guy's name. No, it's not him. Harry Bailey. I think that's him. Many of the patients were dosed and eventually passed away or committed unalivings. I think this is it. About the treatment. All we knew is that he was going to be put to sleep for three weeks and it was just going to give his brain a rest. And that's all we knew. We didn't know about drugs, we didn't know about electric shock treatment. We knew nothing. These lives have been wrecked.
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And not only that, they were fraudulently
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told that they were suffering from a mental illness, when in fact they were suffering the damage from a very dangerous and unorthodox treatment. So it turns out there's an entire documentary on Dr. Harry Bailey, the sleep studies psycho serial killer that you can watch there. I'll put it in the chat for you guys later if you want to watch it later. Yeah, that's him. Dr. Harry Bailey, Australian psychiatrist, notorious for the Kelmsford Private Hospital scandal in the 60s and 70s. He championed his deep sleep therapy by keeping patients basically in comas at the point of death and then bringing them back. This, by the way, if you watched that weird show the OA with Brit Marling, that sci fi chick that's always in all these like alternate reality cult movies, the OA was a very bizarre Netflix show. Everybody was really into it and then had that really weird ending where they did basically some sort of performative public sequence of dance that stopped a mass pop pop event. And then in the second season it got even totally crazy with full on just alternate acid trip reality stuff. People either love it or hate it. It's. It was very bizarre. Brad Pitt was one of the executive producers by the way. But in the first season the villain is exactly Harry Bailey. He's the guy who is kidnapping people and basically putting them into near death experiences and then bringing them back to study the near death experiences. So I don't know if if the villain in season one is based on him or not, but it's very close. All right, so let's get back to the list here. They were studying CIA support at Fort Detrick. And Fort Detrick is where the CIA studies or the MKUltra studies transition into MK Search and MK Delta. So as you probably know, there were House Senate inquiries into MK Ultra, the Church Committee and others, and they did find that this was a huge insane level of decades of abuse and they shut down MK Ultra. But MKUltra didn't actually shut down. It just got turned into a new name and it got moved to Fort Detrick, which was actually where they study a lot of bio bio warfare and bioweapons. So it transitioned into more so biometrics and implantables and tech, transhumanist type stuff. And Walter B. Was so ahead of his time that in 1978 in the last chapter of the book he says this is all ultimately now about transhumanism. So he was way, way ahead of its time. What else were they studying again? More LSD magic. They were studying both stage magic and ritual magic. Both of those things come up. I have a book over here on CIA studies into stage magic and how that could be used in various operations. They were studying synthesis of yohimbe hydrochloride. So shamans, drugs, drug studies again, Amanita mascara.
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Jamie
Right there.
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Jay Dyer
See that? So there is all the research that Dr. David Patrick Harry has focused on his PhD. We've interviewed him many times. And there you have MK Ultra sub project 22. Studying under Artichoke. Studying amanita mascara. Office of Naval Research funding for lsd. Three studies at Fort Detrick. Biowarfare. We don't know what botanicals plants. More support of magic. We don't know exactly what what type of magic, but collections of botanicals. Abrams LSD research. Here's a weird one. Sub project involved getting a man into a diverted freighter. Just studying people in weird situations. Even box number two, MK Ultra CI safe houses. Drug traffickers. Studying combinations of drugs with sensory deprivation tanks and hypnosis. Studying of aromatics. So smells sense basically Fart studies, cancer studies, more lsd, Cornell research. So this is happening here, you see Cornell University. Here's a blanked out university of hypnosis artichoke being done at Cornell. Here's three more projects on botanicals. Studying of brain concussions, pharmacology, drug tests, alcohol sleep, sleep studies and insomnia. Look at that. There you go. Now I mentioned Gordon Watson who was sent by JP Morgan to go find the entheogens in the shrooms. And here you have it mentioned right here in box 3. Sub project 58. JP Morgan funding Gordon Wasson. Sub project 60 is the human Ecology Fund. And that's what I told you was one of the fronts. There it is right there. Sub project 60. Studying Hungarian refugees. Just weird. Just random ass weird will pop up in here. Studying electroshock. There we go. Alcohol drug studies, Rutgers University studies. Knockout. I wonder what that is. Just knockout. Here's six different biolab studies. Don't know what those are. Mental health Studies at Massachusetts. Massachusetts Mental Health Studies, University of Kentucky Narcotics Studies. Small HEF. I don't know what HEF is. HEA. The studying HEA. Them studying HEAs. More Hungarian refugee studies. I wonder if that means. I wonder if they were experimenting on Hungarian refugees because in one of the documents the MK Ultra doctor said they requested more undesirable persons to experiment on. So you can see what they think of people. Toxins in Cuba. Now we heard, according to viral videos recently that one of the things that was recently declassified was this idea that they would use weaponized bugs, ticks and sprays in Cuba that perhaps could have its origins in sub project 93 here. Osgood, George Kelly. Schizophrenic studies. By the way, the Australian stuff that I mentioned earlier, the, the book on MKUltra in Australia there was quite a bit that had to do with studying schizophrenia and dementia perhaps to weaponize it. Mass conversion studies. I don't know if that means religion. It could mean conversion to religion. So they were even studying, you know, indigenous religion. A lot of shaman type studies come up. African studies, African Attitudes is mentioned right there. Studying adolescent gangs and children's summer camps. Look at that. So I mean they're, they're into everything, dude. And adolescent gangs could be relevant too with the eventual usage of the gangs for, you know, the CIA's drug, drug trafficking stuff. Sabotage of petroleum. That's a weird one. Studying electrodes. Russian study MK Naomi. Okay, there's another one of these projects. Don't know what that is, but it's, it's here just mentioned as MK Naomi. Studying gas sprays and aerosols. Studying the mentally disturbed in their environment. Cultural influences on children. Look at that. Pop culture. So MK Ultra absolutely connected to pop culture right there. Project 117. Microbiology. Telecontrol. I don't know what telecontrol is, but presumably sort of radio rc. Radio control. More, more drug research, more chemical studies. Studying disaster and stress responses. Rapid hypnotic hypnotic induction. CIA safe houses. Two of these. San Francisco. That might be Midnight Climax. Right, because we know that. I mean, I don't know, but we know that Midnight Climax was the CIA's project that we, we talked about this with John Kiriaku. The declassified usage of prostitutes to dose the johns at the house of ill repute with lsd. And that's, that's an actual declassified operation. You can look it up. Midnight Climax. One of the most famous out of MK Ultra guys. If you would remember to hit like and also subscribe to the channel. We cover this kind of material quite often. Appreciate those super chats. We'll get to some of those here in a minute. Remember, we will transition directly after this Stream into tonight's sort of debate. We will be having a discussion with a traditional Catholic, David Riley over at. I don't know if he's still on Blonde and the Belly of the Beast channel, but he's was. Is the co host of her podcast and I think he's an SSPX tradcast. So we're looking forward to that conversation. He's a friendly trad cat friend of the channel, so we will have a friendly exchange. Bird studies. That's weird. Studying, handwriting analysis, esp. So there's some esoterics. Psychometric drugs, two studies on marijuana research. George White and the FBI or federal, excuse me, Federal Bureau of Narcotics. I don't know who. There's a famous British intelligence guy named George White. I don't know if that's him or who that is. MK Ultra Ape. I don't know what Ape is, but it's probably not monkeys, although it could be. And then here's a whole bunch of artichoke documents. It doesn't say what they are. Let's see. Vacaville. This is the famous prison complex Vodkaville out in California that Dave McGowan mentions. And there you can see it is part of MK Ultra for sure. Here is subproduct under artichoke. Here is brain studies and brainwashing right there. In fact, they even mentioned John Marks's book about MK Ultra. So John Marks's book about MK Ultra comes up in the encounter documents, which is interesting. I mean, I'm assuming it's the same John Marks. It could be a different guy. Now look at this right here. Bluebird and artichoke. Cold War cybernetics. Cybernetics as well as the study of Soviet defectors, drugs and operations, drug research, again, that's a huge part of artichoke. So it seems like artichoke and Bluebird is the key element of the sort of brainwashing and drugs and cybernetics vector here, box number seven includes federal penitentiary studies. Flickering lights. So what you can trigger with lights, McGill University comes up. That was where of course, Ewan Cameron was at Mount Royale, associated with McGill University. So a lot of the cybernetics research that you find from Norbert Wiener, who is the father of cybernetics, that's adjacent to and connected to rockefeller funding at McGill University in Mount Royale. That's where the famous Dr. Ewan Cameron was. And Ewan Cameron is one of the most notorious up there with sort of Gottlieb and Delgado for the human experimentation, removing people's parts of people's Brains to see if that helped them or fixed them. Imprinting was another thing that Ewan Cameron was big on, which was this idea that you could traumatize people, kind of put them into a catatonic state and then play a tape over and over and over and then sort of reprogram them to be a new person or to fix their maladies or their, you know, whatever their problems were. I don't think any of that worked. But that's why Ewan Cameron is famous for being one of the more notorious MKULTRA doctors. And here you see John Lilly told you. John Lilly is mentioned right here in connection with LSD and counterculture. The old Sandoz pharmaceutical files on LSD and counterculture. So notice that all the boomers that thought they were like, yeah man, we're like go fighting system man. We're gonna, we're gonna stop the man, man. It's like, yeah, but you're literally just promoting everything that the CIA wanted. And again, I always have to play this to remind you guys. Tim Leary himself. Says you can thank the CIA for the counterculture. Safe houses were not the only testing grounds. Millions of dollars would be spent on LSD research at universities throughout the country. And word would begin to spread on campus about this so called mind blowing drug. And suddenly there was the counterculture of the 60s.
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Guest Expert
I give the CIA a total credit for sponsoring and initiating the entire consciousness movement. Counterculture events of the 1960s, Dr. Timothy
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Jay Dyer
Leary, the 1960s, Johnny Appleseed of LSD.
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Guest Expert
The CIA funded and supported and encouraged hundreds of young psychiatrists to experiment with this drug. The fallout from that was that the young psychologists began taking it themselves, discovering that it really was an intelligence enhancing, consciousness raising experience. I know that some of the studies in which the CIA had supported used as subjects people who later became strong proselytizers of lsd.
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Jay Dyer
So you know, in that, and I've read Leary extensively, as you guys know, we've covered several of the psychonauts. We've covered. Could you maybe ask Russell?
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Guest Expert
Thank you.
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Jay Dyer
We've covered Terence McKenna and his BFF butt buddy relationship with the mushroom. And we've covered Timothy Leary's book, Tibetan Book of the Dead. He has a whole commentary analysis which we did a whole lecture on that. I've also read Robert Anton Wilson, another one of these sort of counterculture psychonaut figures, heavily pushing all of this. I've read several Anton Wilson books. So I'm not just coming from this, from the academic sort of history side. I've also read the Psychonauts Themselves who were evangelists for this ideology. So what else do we have here? We have Naval research again, MK Noom. I don't know what that is. Operation Paperclip is mentioned explicitly right here. Including parapsychology and Nikola Tesla. How do we apply Tesla's technology to today? There you go. Sub project. What is that one? It's just mentioned as artichoke. Box 8. Here we go. Let's see. What else? Which doctor studies. Which doctors? I told you they were studying shamanism. Right there. Box number nine. Sub project 47. Penn State Pharmaceuticals. Which doctor studies prison studies prison mental patients. Private corporations and programming psychological assessments. Edgewood Arsenal, the famous biowarfare arsenal. There you go. Personality assessments in the oss, the predecessor to the CIA, the Psychical Research Foundation. Psychopharmacology, psychosurgery. I mean, it's pretty much everything that you could possibly think of. Safe houses. There's quite. I wonder why safe houses come up so much in this. It's interesting. Tradecraft. So here's espionage and tradecraft. Toxic psychic states. Ultrasonic weaponry. Electric fish and animal radars.
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Jamie
What?
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Jay Dyer
Sleep machines. Biocommunications and bioelectronics. Animal esb. I don't know what ESB is. Toxicity in mice. A bunch of mice studies. Rat studies. So there you go. That's at least the titles of all the sub projects and projects of the seven boxes that I think are the ones that we do have. All right, so get back to Boer. Bo says that really the way that they were able to do all of this and kind of keep it on the down low. Well, remember, a lot of people that involved in this stuff, they don't know exactly what they're involved in. So the information is kind of compartmentalized, which is normal for government and military structures. Everything's on a need to know basis. Unless you're at a high level of clearance, you don't really know. And he says you could think of intelligence like a cult, a cult of intelligence. And so he says it's a lot of agencies, by the way, that were involved throughout the government. So it's not just the CIA that was doing this. You have Office of Naval Research. You have FBI. You have a lot of agencies throughout the government. National Science Foundation, Atomic Energy Commission, Bureau of Narcotics, Naval Intelligence, Veterans Administration. All of these entities, including airlines, oil companies and aerospace contractors, participated in various MK Ultra projects and sub projects. So this was a massive, massive project. He says one of the early things that they discovered that's pretty fascinating is that dreams do show suppressed memories of real events at times. So that was something that they thought was very relevant. This is interesting for 1978, he says, one of the figures who I interviewed for this was involved in a top secret crypto security, not cryptocurrency, but cryptographic security clearance project. He was assigned to Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota. He continued to feed and supply numbers into a computer, developing an excellent memory. His job was well done and received a letter of commendation. And computer programming in his case was a cover for his intelligence work. But what they were working on was high level computing as part of MK Ultra as well. He mentions various facilities. He mentions that they really wanted to create files on everybody as part of mkiltra as well. He says that the idea was to create essentially a massive data surveillance grid of everyone and everything. Not in the world at this point, but at this point, just amongst the MK Ultra studies and projects. He mentions the various studies that you probably heard about of trying to create the hypnotic courier that comes up in the DSM V4. The way that they were able to convince a lot of people that this was justified, he says, was through massive, massive Cold War paranoia. Cold War mega fear mainly churned out of the Rand Corporation through creating this mega fear through, oh, we're going to get nuked at any moment. Gorby is going to nuke us. Thus we have to do all of this for the greater good to save the West. Just like with what we saw in the kuf, they used massive, huge, large scale fears to justify anything and everything beyond the limitations of law and supposedly, you know, human rights and human dignity. So the fear is what bypasses that. He again discusses the fact that ELF VLF frequencies and sound studies were a huge part of this. George Estabrooks, as you probably know, is the guy who wrote the famous hypnotic courier study. Dr. George Estabrooks, another one of the MK Ultra doctors. And he claimed to be able to mind control men and women, put them in a state such that they would have multiple personalities. This is where we get the whole idea of the altars and all that in the MK Ultra sphere. Obviously that goes back before MK Ultra, but in regard to MK Ultra, the sleeper cell with the hidden courier, secret information that could be brought out through triggers and codes. That is something that Dr. George Estabrooks wrote about. You can still read that essay.
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It's.
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Last time I checked, it was in the dsmb. Still, they studied antisocial behaviors and could you induce psychosis and antisocial behavior and could you create and craft serial killers. This is where it becomes adjacent to the Phoenix program, whereby they did actually create and engineer serial killers in the Vietnam War. And we've covered Douglas Valentine's book on the Phoenix Project. That was something masterminded by William Colby. They studied false memories, the implantation of false memories, false memory syndromes that was also used by the CIA later on to discredit anyone claiming the 1980s SRA. Martin Orne himself worked with the CIA and then was later convicted of being a creeper. And he was the one running the False Memory Syndrome foundation which was intended to debunk the children at the McMartin preschool trial and others. There were studies on LLSD and Ritalin. Dr. Abby Hoffman synthesizes tons of LSD for the Department of Defense in the 1950s. 1953 bio research. The very first episode, by the way, of the Twilight Zone is actually about MK Ultra. Imagine that. Nobody knew. Imagine watching the Twilight zone in the 1950s and you don't even realize that what you're watching is actually part of the MKUltra project. Now, Boer doesn't say that, but I'm saying what he describes in this chapter is what the very first episode of the Twilight Zone is about. It's about. If you never watched it, it's great. You should watch it. It's a soldier. It might be the pilot to the pilot or episode one. It's a soldier who comes back home from some conflict and he gets to his small hometown and there's nobody there and he sort of wanders around and can't find him. I eventually find somebody and it's this real. It's a very engaging episode. It's an excellently written episode. But then, spoiler alert, you come to find out that he was in a float tank undergoing mind control experiments by the military the entire time. That's exactly what they were doing in the 1950s when they first started doing this sort of LSD research, when what was his name, hoffman, had created 10 kilograms of LSD in 1953 for the CIA that the Department of Defense then experimented with. We mentioned earlier in these studies listed here, the idea of socializing or creating a psycho civilized society. That's Dr. Delgado's book. They did experiment on prisoners in 1960. Timothy Leary himself says that he was working with prisoners at various prisons throughout the U.S. with the National Institute of Mental Health to, try to, quote, civilize the prisoners with mind control experiments. Lo and behold, it's exactly what happened to Charles Manson. And of course, we can debate to what degree he might have been or not been handled or whatever, but there is absolutely documented proof that when Charles Manson was in prison, he went through all the levels of Scientology. He achieved Theta clear, and then was involved in all the LSD stuff out in California and became this, you know, insane cult leader. Let's see. I think. Does he mention Crowley? Let's see what he says here, Timothy. Here's this. This chapter is largely about Timothy Leary. He says Leary frequently took lsd, and in his speeches, he began to push the idea of a new cult of true believers based around this drug. Oh, I remember why I put Crowley in here. Because did you know Timothy Leary claimed to be the new Aleister Crowley? In fact, he would appear underneath banners of a demonic Jesus. I'm not making this up. Let's see if we can find that clip. Yeah, here it is. Here is him. Here he is talking about pushing Croweism.
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Guest Expert
Well, I've been an admirer of Aleister Crowley. I think that I'm carrying on much of the work that he started over 100 years ago, and I think the 60s themselves. You know, Crowley said he was in favor of. Of. Of finding your own self and. And do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law under love. It was a very powerful statement. I'm sorry he isn't around now to appreciate the glories that he started.
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Jay Dyer
So there you go. And here he is sitting under a demonic version of Christ with a 666.
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Jamie
Crowley had hoped to get his disciples into influential positions in America to influence the masses. One such disciple was former Harvard professor turned drug guru, Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary, the defunct Harvard professor, led the drug revolution in the 1960s as he handed out mescaline and LSD like it was candy to the youth. This in turn opened up the hippie youth of the west through the pagan demonic gods of the east, who were also promoted by a Lester Crowley. We can see here that Timothy Leary is under a painting which bears the number of the Antichrist, 666, who is prophesied to rule the world until he's destroyed by Christ at Armageddon. Timothy Leary claimed that he came to the realization that he was to usher in Crowley's new age. When he was using Crowley's tarot cards, Leary asked the question, who am I and what is my destiny? Leary claims that he then cut to the ace of disk. Robert Anton Wilson declared, this shows a large disc bearing the Greek letters to Megatherion, the great beast. Leary interpreted this to mean that he is Crowley reborn and is supposed to complete the work Crowley began.
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Jay Dyer
So here you have Leary himself saying, yes, it's all from the CIA, and it's all Croweanism, and we're going to initiate all these dumb boomers into a new occult satanic Aeon.
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Jamie
On a PBS interview, Timothy Leary let his hair down and admitted that he was carrying on Satanist Aleister Crowley's work and that the 1960s is when the plan began to come to fruition.
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Guest Expert
Well, I've been an admirer that America
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Jamie
would pick up, quote a few axioms on which a working majority can agree, a few dogmas which it could rally. Do what thou will, of course, became do your own thing, and if it feels good, do it. In the 1960s, Timothy Lyric came up with a few of his own.
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Guest Expert
He looked out at that crowd and he said, turn on, tune in. That's right, and drop out.
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Jay Dyer
Oh, yeah, man. Profound, dude. So profound, dude. LSD had a impact in Vietnam. In fact, the CIA was very involved in the Golden Triangle drug trade in Southeast Asia. And not only was heroin a key point, but also LSD was a key point. I think it's pretty, very plausible, according to Doug Valentine, others, that they wanted the, you know, Vietnam guys, which is why you have this archetype of the crazy Vietnam vet. They wanted them doing all of these drugs as part of the experiment. So experimenting on the soldiers experiment, experimenting on. When they're in these traumatic, you know, battle situations. He talks about the deals that were made together with the Mafia. Former CIA agent Victor Marchetti, in his books noted that the CIA was implicated in the drug trade in several countries. The Mafia, thanks to the CIA and their alliance, has a free hand in vast opium trafficking from Turkey to Italy to the United States. And so we've. We've covered Operation Underworld many times. We don't have to rehearse all that. But one of the most famous unwitting subjects who was dosed with LSD was Frank Olson, who you may have heard of him. I think they made a whole documentary on the Netflix a few years ago about Frank Olson. When he was dosed, he jumped out of a window. So maybe he was unalived, or maybe he unalived himself. It's hard to know. A lot of. A lot of people in these circles end up unalived. So let's see. He goes on to talk about Bluebird and Artichoke. We already covered those. Here's a list of the drug projects. According to Walter Boer. They're known as Artichoke, MK Delta, MK Search, and ultimately These were geared towards perfect and total control of the mind. Death studies were conducted at the Vacaville prison complex. We mentioned all the industries already used the story of Cardinal Mazinski. I don't know if you know about that, but they made a movie about Cardinal Mazinski, the Catholic cardinal who was supposedly kidnapped by the Soviets. It's in the movie with Alec Guinness. Obi Wan Kenobi plays Cardinal Mazinski. If you've never seen that, I forget the name of the movie, but they actually have, like the mind control stuff in the movie. It's. But it's another one of these Cold War propaganda films, The Prisoner. That's it. The 1955 movie, the Prisoner with Obi Wan Kenobi, and he's playing Cardinal Minsky who ends up getting arrested by the Soviets. And he's brainwashed, supposedly. Right. That's the story. Now, I think he was probably arrested and messed with by the Soviets. But the problem, again with this, the story is that that becomes a justification for the CIA to say, ah, you see, we must then do all the same things, because look what they're doing to the Catholic prelates. But according to the movie, and I think it's in the movie, but according to Boer, they were. The Soviets were using not just drugs, but both hypnosis and sound weapons. So they wanted to supposedly use sound weapons to see if they could break Cardinal Mininsky in the Cold War. The next chapter talks about the possibility of altars and altars that would unalive themselves were they to be discovered. It's hard to know how extensive this was, how successful this was. If you are interested, and I did. I put this in SR Color with three. There is a Hitchcock movie that deals with this. And in fact, many of the Hitchcock films actually deal with MK Ultra alter themes. I don't know if it mentions M. Kiltron explicitly, but if you've never seen the 1964 movie Marnie, which is Tippi Hedren and Sean Connery, this is actually about. I mean, it's not explicitly MK Ultra, but loosely it is, because Marnie, the character has been traumatized. When she was a child, she grew up in a very dysfunctional home with a. A lady of the evening as her mom. And so she was traumatized and throughout. What's interesting about the film is that there's certain things that trigger her. The color red and thunderstorms trigger her to go back into her childlike alter state. It's a really good Hitchcock movie. If you've never seen it. And of course, Sean Connery plays the. The alpha male. That's the only person that can tame her before Hollywood was totally woke. But if you've never seen Marnie, it's basically the same idea as what Bower's discussing in this chapter on altars and the possibility of unaliving programming in the individuals who are perhaps couriers. He talks about different figures that might have undergone this. There's the story of Candy Jones. It's debated to what degree Candy Jones's story is authentic or not real. I don't have a certain answer about that. But this is Candy Jones and this is the book that was written many years ago by Donald Bain, the Control of Candy Jones. And it was again, one of these early sort of. This was the who's that woman? Transformation of America. This was like that woman before, right? This is the older generation of this kind of stuff where they allege that she was brought into one of these programs. Now she was a pin up calendar model, very beautiful woman. So it does seem plausible that she could have been brought into one of these projects. To what degree they were able to control her, it's hard to know. And I think I put her in the, in my first book. But she did go on USO tours and some people have speculated that people like Bob Hope and others were handlers to some of these USO tour pinup girls for the, for the soldiers. But again, that's a lot of speculation. It's hard to know exactly what's real in these cases of first person testimony because. And I'm not trying to always bring this up, when we bring up the women that have undergone this type of. There's another one, Bryce Taylor is another one. She alleges that Bob Hope was her handler. Again, I don't know. It's very, very possible. Yes. People say some of the Playboy Playmates were in these kinds of roles. Very, very possible. I think even Marilyn Monroe is another key figure that fits this pattern, this profile as well. And of course, you know, having slept with the Kennedys and the mobsters, she probably knew too much. And so that might have contributed to her unaliving. I also think that's very plausible. The only problem is that with some of the first person testimony people, it's not that. And they always get mad when I say this. Remember Fiona Barrett? She went off on me because I. She said, you're denying. I'm not saying that what happened isn't true. I'm just saying that we can't verify all of a first Person testimony claims, unless there's something that verifies it. And people that do the, the psychological psychiatric treatment for these types of people, they'll say the same thing. They'll say, look, I can't verify or not verify all of the things that you claim happened when you were 3, 4, 5, 6 sometimes that's from regression therapy. We don't know if that's always reliable. It could be. I'm just saying that it's very hard to get certitude about first person testimonies, especially when a lot of the people who were in these projects end up having mental problems. So that makes it all the more difficult because they'll remember or misremember or they'll tie in kind of crazy stuff, right? Like you're, you're reading them and they're going from, oh, I was taken to Kissinger when I was 10 years old, then I was taken to David Rockefeller when I was 12. And then, then they took me to the underground base and I saw the aliens. And it's like, well, at that point it's like you've ruined the testimony that you might have had. And I'm not saying they're all lying, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that it's hard to verify when a lot of these people have kind of outlandish things and details that can't be verified. And then it turns into total kukri. We saw the same thing with that woman that was on pbd, whatever, Anika, where she claims to have been trafficked by David Rockefeller for years, but she had no idea who David Rockefeller was. It's like, and then when Patrick bet David asked her, like, well, how did you not know who the most, the wealthiest, most famous guy in New York was? She was like, how dare you ask me that question? Was a fair question, like, why are you getting mad about it? He connects Sullivan and Cromwell, the famous CIA law firm that we just mentioned in the old boys lectures that we did, we covered the entire history of the oss and of course Alan Dulles and Dulles brothers and Sullivan and Cromwell played a huge role in the founding of the oss. And then later the CIA. He says that the idea that there was an international Soviet conspiracy that would justify a lot of these operations was actually itself propaganda by the military industrial complex. As I've been saying, not to say there aren't dumb leftists, there aren't real Soviets, and that that's a, that obviously that's a bad ideology. But the NUANCE here is that the patriotism and the worship of American Americanism is what allowed for people to set aside any of their morals to justify all these operations. Because we have to. If we don't do it, the Soviets are going to do it and we'll lose the Cold War. A lot of Pavlov out of the Soviet domain and J.B. watson out of American. External stimuli, conditioning, behaviorism, both sides of that dialectic played into MK Ultra studies. So the CIA and Western intelligence studies were very interested in Pavlov as much as they were in JB Watson and other operant conditioning specialists. Also the Skinner Bach box. JB Skinner, who abused his own children by putting them in Skinner boxes to see if he could reprogram them from external stimuli. All that played into these Cold War dialectics. And he says that the Cold War really is what releases this cryptocracy on the world whereby we have this military industrial complex, breakaway deep state, national security state. That's the brains and the, the bronze behind all this MK Ultra operation and both sides of the east and the West. He says, and this is very perceptive of him to say this in 1978, he says both sides, whether Soviet or America, were based on the exact same materialistic view of man. So it's a materialistic plasticity view. And if you don't know, that comes out of H.G. wells. H.G. wells pioneered this idea of the plasticity of human nature way before anybody else. In island of Dr. Moreau. We've covered that whole book. We've done lectures on that. And he says that ultimately this was to create a socialized public, much like Brave New World. There is a chapter on hitmen and assassins. The Navy doing programs, studying programs to create serial killers and assassins. We know that that is real. As to how extensive or successful, it's debated. There is, of course, Operation Phoenix. Phoenix program. Boer concludes that they were able to create people who were willing to, or more willing to commit assassinations. He says that he knows of three supposed hypnotized killers. There's a pretty extensive chapter on the KGB and Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby. I think he questions the whole narrative there. Sam Gianna and the Mafia plays a key role in this. There's a whole chapter on them. We've covered that in the past. Not going to rehearse all that, but coming to the last chapter, which I think is the most important in the Bower book, we might have to do a part two, because we're going to have to head over here and do the the debate with David Riley debate very soon and I got to read Super Chats. But he concludes the book by noting that the black budget that funds a lot of these operations didn't get shut down. It just transitioned into other places. Fort Detrick for MK Search and MK Delta. And they began to study weather modification, alpha waves, cybernetics through Norbert Wiener. As we've seen, TV signals and radiation, perhaps even microwaves and microwave studies, as well as anything that could contribute to technocracy. And he basically says the goal is what you read in Bertrand Russell about technocracy. He says AI and artificial intelligence is where they want to go with biometrics and a completely controlled and surveilled society with a tech smart grid smart city overlay. This is 1978. Boer was reading this. So this is obviously a critical conspiracy book, but this book was 100 spot on, especially in the chapters about where they wanted to go with the crypto cryptocracy running us through transhumanism and sex bots. In fact, he says James Bond plays a key role in this research in terms of creating a Hollywood mind control society through programming through Hollywood, which conditions you to eventually accept these ideas. The mind control and all these studies were not for individuals or for assassins or for sex honeypots. Ultimately this was all for the masses. And so Boer was completely vindicated. Maybe if we, we want to get into John Marks's book, we'll do that on part two or something. But there's also John C. Lilly's autobiography, which I've read. And again, all the same stuff is in all of these MK Ultra doctors. So I think hopefully at this point we realize it's not really, quote, conspiracy theory. We didn't even get to Tom o' Neill here speaking at the MKL Ultra hearings that we just had. So we'll have to do a part two because there's just too much to get to. But I'm going to try to get to these super chats really quick because you guys remember we're going to immediately transition over into a SSPX Rome papacy debate discussion. We'll have to see how it goes. Anonymous says no, we did that. Greenie says for 100 Australian. Thank you so much, Jay. If you could do a book in 10 minutes, do a video on the Milner Fabian book and emphasize the chapters on immigration. Yeah, the second half of the Milner Fabian book by Johan Ratio is actually about open borders immigration. This topic is actually firing up here in Australia. Normies are getting fed up. They're Beginning for the first time to think about third parties. And we do not want to be like the uk. That's a great point, Greeny. He says also, Christianity is beginning to grow here. We're beginning to get a nationalist sentiment and we want to reduce this insane immigration. That's good. People want to embrace ideas that then are adjacent to Christianity and nationalism. That's good. That's. I mean, the worse things get, the more people wake up. So unfortunately, people should have awakened to this 20 years ago when we were sounding these alarms. Victor Ziegler, $10. Jay, I'm loving this series. Can you. You've entered your prime. This is the time when the dire star rises. Hopefully, you can impact people. I hope so. Pray for that, Victor. Again, $10. I'm sure a lot of people know in the past that they didn't follow what you were doing, that they will watch a certain podcast that happened recently and be shocked that you made it to that. Yeah, the big podcast, as you guys know, drops Monday the 13th. So that's eight days, so about a week. Echo, $10. Quick question. How long does it take for you to do location scouting, casting and filming for the music videos? He's making a joke. Yeah, those. Some of those. Those locations are done via Dr. Evo and Ozzy, so you can ask them. Sin City, $10. What's up? Hero Bomb Entertainment? Yo. Can you please unblock Harold Born Entertainment? Hero Born. I was baptized. Oh, you probably said a bunch of goofy stuff before that. It's probably why you got got banned. But mods can look into unblocking Hero Born Entertainment. Cost seats, $15. As somebody who went through MK Ultra Cognitive infiltration, your earlier research helped me a great deal. It wasn't hysterical, it wasn't debunking. It actually provided sobriety. Thank you. I'm glad to hear that, man. Mason Rice, $7. I noticed sometimes you wear a Mercedes hat. Did you watch F1 racing? No, I'm not into racing. It's just a hat I got when I got up. Mercedes, John Con, $5. Good books that critique various worldviews and psychology and psychiatry, especially Freud, Young and drugs. I don't know of a good. I mean, Francis Parker Yockey's book Imperium, in the first 300 pages critiques Freud and Marx, but not from a position of drugs per se and psychiatry. Mango, $10. What's up, Kazark? $5. Dwyer, you never said how I can send you the montage. I mean, just go to my website and there's the email or My. You can just message me on Twitter. Matthew, $5. Have you heard of Poppy? She. Yeah, I remember when Poppy was popular for like a day when she got like 10 million views because she put out that video where she was just going, I'm Poppy. I'm Poppy. I'm Poppy. Yeah, it's very robotic and. But I don't think. I mean people have forgotten her. I don't think she's going to be some big MK ultra pop star. Birds aren't real. $5. Duncan Idaho. $5. In Frank Herbert's doom Messiah he coins the term distrans, which is a hypnotically induced message in the subconscious of the Gula of Duncan Idaho that was sent to kill Paul. Yeah, I remember that. We covered. We covered that MKUltra stuff when I did my doom Messiah analysis. Analysis. Theophon 1776. Happy 4th. Do you have any Science of Life series by Huxley and Wells? No, I don't have that book or those books in the Phil, $5. The Mexican neighbors keep using sound weapons on me every weekend. Yeah, dude, that's just cholo, bro. That's just being a solo. Dude, that ain't a weapon. They keep calling it Keen Sensora or something. It's festivals. Gabe, $10. How are you feeling about the atheist goober that you're going to debate? I don't know much about him yet. So we do have an atheist debate coming up on Modern day Debate. I think he's doing academic work but I'm not familiar with any of his arguments or where he's going to go storm the cat. $10. That's not in person. That's an online debate coming up and I think four or five days. Do you like Moondog? He made modern classical music. I'm not familiar with Moondog. I'll have to check that out. Gregory, $5. Have you heard of lysine price fixing in 1990? What is that? I have no idea. Goat mice for $3. At my university in Canada they're doing land acknowledgments. This goes against my conscience like Jordan Peterson. Have you ever had an institution require you to violate your beliefs? Not really, but I wouldn't violate my. Just say I can't violate my conscience. Chetnik. $10. Here's for the coffers of Wigsantium. Thanks bro. I'm underwater. $15. I keep missing your call ins from your and Jamie's talk on Buddhism. I'm trying to find a source for the esoteric women hitting. It's a Victor Chandi book. William Magani $20. I went to the Museum of the Bible. They have a section where you can answer questions on a screen. One of the questions was, is it okay to change the Bible for your own interpretation? And 75% of the people said yes. Well, that's the fruits of Protestantism right there. What do you expect? All right, let's get to the last of super chats and then I'm gonna have to go and make the thumbnail and get ready for tonight's SSPX discussion. But we got more super chats on YouTube. I was part of the GATE program. What are we smelling? Hans says for $10. Alfonso. Jay. What about Colonia Dignada? Yeah, this is supposed to be a tiny mustache man cult in Chile. I'm familiar with that. We'll have to have another look into that. I've looked at that in several years, but I'm familiar with it. Blank $5. You deserve more money for this research. Unfortunately, this is all I can contribute. Well, thanks, man. Appreciate that. Thank you for doing all the stuff. This is very important. Zombie Hunter 50. Thank you so much, man. I just listened to the first half of your lecture on Manchurian Candidate by John Marks. This is a great book. This lecture was on point. Did you read Nicholas Baker's book Baseless? I've not read that. He actually found more stuff on the bioweapons. I'll have to check that out, man. Appreciate that. Nicholas Nicholson Baker's book Baseless. Let me write that down. In the Phil. $5. What drug they'd be putting in the Popeyes? Because I get sleepy after I eat a Popeye plated occasion. Goodness, I love that chicken. They be putting essence of Yakub in that. Gabe says. Got to check out the new Robert Eggers werewolf movie trailer. Looks insane. Yeah, I won't definitely want to see that. That was actually one of the first. That was the first movie Jamie and I ever analyzed was Eggers is the. With Anya Taylor, Joy. All right, guys, we're gonna have to call it a night right now. But remember, we'll be right back in the next 10, 15 minutes with a discussion with David Riley from the world of tradcatism. So hopefully that will be a profitable civil discussion. I'm not gonna be mean, so.