Pt 1 Candace Goes FULL DAVID ICKE: Counter Intel, UFOs, CIA "Looking Glass" & Pure Baloney

Summary

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Jay'sAnalysis Podcast Summary

Host: Jay Dyer
Episode: Pt 1 Candace Goes FULL DAVID ICKE: Counter Intel, UFOs, CIA "Looking Glass" & Pure Baloney
Date: January 19, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Jay'sAnalysis takes a critical and often satirical look at the growing trend of disinformation, “counter-intelligence,” and conspiracy culture, using Candace Owens’ recent podcast as a prominent case study. Jay Dyer explores how high-profile personalities move from legitimate critique into promoting unfounded, outlandish theories—highlighting parallels with classic disinfo agents, UFO mythology, “Project Looking Glass,” and the recurring blending of fact with fiction in the alternative media and conspiracy world.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

Disinformation in Conspiracy Culture

• Critique of Candace Owens’ Claims:
  Jay responds to criticism that he hasn’t watched the full Candace episode, clarifying he's watched several and finding her full embrace of time travel, Sumerian technology, and similar topics even more nonsensical than expected.

  "It’s actually worse for you idiots that I actually went and watched it because it’s dumber than just the clip about the Sumerian time travel technology…" (02:00)

• Classic Disinformation Patterns:
  Drawing from personal experience and referencing David Icke, Tom DeLonge, and others, Jay identifies a recurring formula: truth laced with extreme, unverifiable claims.

• Hostility in “Truth” Communities:
  Jay recounts how criticism and rational debate are met with ad-hominems and cult-like defensiveness.

  "The people in these groups...take any criticism as attack, and the cult followers pile on, even if you’re trying to be helpful." (06:08)

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The UFO Narrative and Counterintelligence

• Mirage Men and Disinfo Tactics
  Jay heavily recommends the documentary Mirage Men, explaining how intelligence services deliberately planted UFO lore using narcissistic “chosen” personalities ripe for manipulation (e.g., Tom DeLonge, Linda Moulton Howe, Bob Lazar).

  "Generals are not going to disseminate UFO information through a pop-punk singer. But there's a key piece of data...watch Mirage Men..." (13:10)

• Purpose of UFO Myths:
  Disinformation’s dual function: distracting from real programs (e.g., military tech) and providing cover for illegal activities (e.g., trafficking).

  "This kind of stuff is a good cover for keeping those secrets. It can also be a way to cover for illegal operations..." (20:09)

• Mocking of Celebrity Conspiracy Figures:
  Frequent satire of the idea that musicians like Tom DeLonge or pop stars such as Demi Lovato and Katy Perry are disseminators of government secrets.

  "Are you serious? You actually believe that magnetic Wave...The singer of Blink 182 has figured out all physics mysteries?" (20:46)

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Candace Owens, Project Camelot, and "Project Looking Glass"

• Source Criticism:
  Jay scrutinizes Candace’s reliance on sources like "Project Camelot" (hosted by Kerry Cassidy), mocking the program as emblematic of boomer-era, attention-seeking fantasy.

  "You heard me right. For Project Looking Glass, a 2012 interview with Carrie Cassidy and some guberd talking about how the Sumerian time portal technology stopped working in 2012." (37:08)

• Satirizing Disinfo and Its Reception:
  Jay parodies both Candace and her audience, highlighting the uncritical acceptance of increasingly bizarre claims, especially by "wine moms...and dumb potheads."

  "I’m calling you dumb and calling you names because you keep tripling down..." (37:18)

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The Psychology of Conspiracy Proliferation

• Messiah Complex in Media Figures:
  Analysis of how personalities like Candace, Jordan Peterson, and Kanye fall into “anointed” or “savior” roles, losing connection with critics and reality.

  "When they get to this mega level of popularity...they take on a messiah complex and...boot out anyone who would give them pushback." (43:26)

• Gnosticism and Paranoia:
  Jay notes Candace’s themes are drifting toward Gnosticism—reality as an evil “prison planet,” uncoverable only by the special few.

  "This is beginning to move towards Gnosticism, right? She keeps referencing the Matrix...The Matrix is 100% Gnostic." (70:25)

• Blending Fact with Fiction:
  Jay demonstrates how real, documented programs (e.g., GATE, Stargate) are conflated with fictional constructs (“X-Men schools,” Sumerian time travel) as the myth grows.

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

Satirical & Sarcastic Highlights

• On Conspiracy Trends Among Celebrities:

  "I'm waiting for [the Pogues] to really give us the truths of zero point energy. Maybe it's RuPaul. The future is trans." (21:57)

• Dismissing the Cult of “Weird Coincidences”:

  "Are you noticing a pattern that...there is this mystical intuition that [Candace] just goes by...The problem with this is that now millions of people...now think they are figuring this out because they feel it. This is female logic, which is not logical." (86:17)

Alerting to Manipulation

• Why Preposterous Claims Go Unchallenged:

  "They just assume that anybody who would try to correct them...is just out for their own motives and...being nefarious." (10:03)

• On the Function of Disinfo:

  "If you watch this [Mirage Men], this deflates the whole UFO nonsense...They even interview people who worked on [faking UFOs]." (18:45)

Cautionary Advice for Listeners

• On Scrutinizing Sources:

  "There's a real Project Looking Glass but it has to do with tabletop exercises...Absolutely nothing to do with seeing into the future, nothing to do with Babylonian Sumerian relics..." (52:28)

• On the Importance of Discernment:

  "If you're envious and...I actually go and do the work, that's a problem with you, not with me. It's not my fault that you didn't do the work. It's not my fault that you fell for these people's nonsense..." (40:43)

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Community Call-In & Discussion (91:45+)

• Jay and guests (including Rachel) discuss personal experiences from "gifted and talented" school programs, confirming much of this targeted education is about New Age and UN-style indoctrination, not covert grooming of "X-Men" or psychic super-agents.

  • Rachel:

    “I got a full-ride scholarship to school, which I never used...but all that just to say it’s kinda gay. Like who cares, right?” (91:58)

  • Jay:

    “You weren’t put into a pod and linked up to the matrix and given LSD doses...? No? Okay.” (92:39)

• Further examination of why people fall for such narratives:

  • Rachel:

    “It’s not that they’re not intelligent, but it’s like they lack this specific skill of being able to connect things...” (94:48)

  • Jay:

    “You need to figure out when something could or could not or not necessarily logically follow.” (95:22)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:00 | Jay begins direct critique of Candace Owens’ episode | | 13:10 | Mirage Men, UFO disinfo and the narcissist recruitment strategy | | 20:09 | Purpose of UFO myths for real-life black ops cover-ups | | 37:08 | Ridiculing Candace's use of Project Camelot as a "source" | | 43:26 | How high-profile media figures develop messiah complexes | | 52:28 | Dissecting what “Project Looking Glass” actually is (not sci-fi) | | 70:25 | Candace’s content becoming overtly Gnostic in outlook | | 86:17 | The perils of “mystical intuition” as argument and mass influence | | 91:45 | Rachel joins to discuss gifted programs and Candace fandom | | 95:22 | On the logic gap in Candace’s and other conspiracy narratives |

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Conclusion

Jay’sAnalysis delivers a spirited, comedic, yet pointed critique of how influential media figures recycle, amplify, or even originate Modern American conspiracy mythologies. Jay cautions listeners to discern between the sober documentation of malfeasance and the allure of wild, Gnostic, Marvel-movie style “mega” narratives, emphasizing the latter are frequently created, fostered, or exploited as counterintelligence and social engineering. Ultimately, the episode is a primer on critical thinking, skepticism—and the importance of not out-sourcing discernment to celebrities, pop stars, or internet cults.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

There.

[A]

I said it. What are you gonna do? Go ahead, cancel me. Yeah, I said it. Jeffrey Epstein was cool as fuck. Now what? Go ahead, cancel me. Do it. So sometimes we have to be the villain. Sometimes we have to be on a villain arc. That's okay. I'll be a little unpopular. I've been unpopular before now. I'm sure that everybody will say, oh, he's saying that. Because people call him a villain. And so he's being satirical and he's saying, Jeffrey's a villain. I mean, okay. Yeah, I mean, whatever. Okay, that's. If you think that's what it is, go for it. But, you know, I. I've. In the last year, I've had thousands and thousands of these bots, and people come after me, harass me, and what I've done is simply try to put out information that would turn people in the right direction on these topics. And every one of these people goes in the wrong direction. They become Roman Catholics, they double down, triple down, quadruple down on the Roman Catholicism. You continually try to warn these people, and you get called every name in the book, harassed, attacked, and for what? Like, what did I do to any of these people other than try to point out correct information? Now, as with the case of Candace, I don't know Candace. I've never talked to her, but I have made many, many streams. She has talked about a lot of the material that we've talked about. She referenced me on her show without naming me because I was in the documentary that Tim Gordon made. And no, I'm not salty because she didn't mention my name. I don't really care if I was her. I wouldn't mention it either if I was a Roman Catholic and I was committed to Catholicism. So. And the other thing too is, like, when you talk about this stuff and you try to put out good information, it's very frustrating because the. The people in these groups, they take any criticism as attack, right? They take any criticism as that you hate the person and the cult followers pile on, even if you're trying to be helpful. Now, in the case of Nick, I reached out in DMS many times. The only reason I offered a debate was because many people were saying, you should debate Nick again. And I said, I'd be happy to do that again. I didn't say I was going to debate him again. So that was taken out of context. It's not true that I wasn't demonetized and canceled. He said that I wasn't. That's not true. I was. So what happens is a lot of these people will do anything, I think, for the media positions, and they get in an insulated position where they think that anybody who might criticize them is suddenly their enemy. And part of the reason for that is because in this domain of media and entertainment, Internet, whatever, there's a lot of people who backstab people. But I think, you know, if you look at, for example, I've hosted the Alex Jones show for six years. Alex has never censored me. I've never been. I've never backstabbed Alex. I've never. I tend to be a pretty loyal person. Even if I disagree with you, I will disagree with you openly, right? I mean, Tim Gordon is a friend and I've disagreed with him openly, and I don't have any. I don't shy away from pointing out disagreements, but when it comes to other people, I think they just assume that anybody who would try to correct me or try to put me on a different path or whatever, oh, they're just out for their own motives and they're just being nefarious. And, and the sad part is that you can see people's trajectories and that it's going in the wrong direction and they don't listen. They won't listen to you. It reminds me of I had a buddy who was an alcoholic and I would try for years everything I could to get him to not drink. And then I finally realized that, you know, he's ultimately going to have to come to that realization himself. Right. I can't fix him. I can't make him change his course. How has Alex Jones gone off the rails? I don't even know what you're talking about again. So first of all, let's get some fallacies out of the way. The topic is not Alex Jones. Alex Jones has nothing to do with what. Yeah, we got somebody in the chat who knows who I'm talking about. The point of, of the, the conversation is not, does Alex Jones have points I disagree with? I've talked on Alex's show openly about positions that I know Alex doesn't agree with. I critique libertarianism openly. I critique evangelical dispensationalist type theology, which Alex tends to have. Not so much he's not a Zionist, but I critique the evangelical positions. I critique classical liberalism and libertarianism, which Alex affirms. I critique the American view of the Enlightenment. Alex has never told me to not talk about that. Never told me that I can't discuss those disagreement topics on his show. And I've done probably 10 episodes of the fourth hour on that topic. So I would actually argue no. Over the years, Alex has become more and more level headed and not more unhinged. So I have no idea what you're talking about. That Alex is off the rails. That's totally not true. And what I'm talking about today has really has nothing to do with Alex. Now there is a black dude over here. Coach calling, yo, this coast call in, man. This diet dude, he just want to debate. Look at this dude. He said, let's debate. Well, why can none of the Kansas people come and rationally present their position? Okay, we got wine moms again over here. My husband says, fuj, that's an argumentum ad hominem. And my response is go back to the box, baby. Put you back in the Box mama. Wine mama. Candace's audience is wine mamas and like dumb potheads. The other people defending it are like dumb potheads like this guy, Dr. Hollywood Hogan. You talk about the same crazy that she does. No, I don't. Please tell me what the crazy that I talk about is. That's what she talks about. I do not talk about ancient alien tech. I don't talk about aliens. I have debunked aliens for 12 years straight. My first podcast on YouTube that I uploaded was an interview with the Collins brothers. You can go listen to it 10 years ago. 11 years ago. Debunking aliens as disinformation. The first time I went and spoke at a conspiracy conference, I called alien nonsense disinformation. Go watch the lecture. It's still up on YouTube. And another guy says, you dude, you man. So has. Does nobody care about what's true anymore? Like, is it, is it just about screaming at people now? It's just about cussing people? Like, it's not at all about what's the most logical, rational, likely position when it comes to Charlie Kirk, Egyptian Planes, Mitch Snow, Quantum time consciousness. I mean, dude, come on now. Where have we seen situations like this before? Well, if you remember some three to eight years ago, and this is the whole span of the last three to eight years, Tom DeLong from Blink 182 was approached by, according to him, generals from the military who said that they had chosen him to be a special person who could put out information regarding the reality of our secret deals with various alien races. And the more that you dig into this obvious nonsense, it is utterly preposterous that military generals would take the singer of Blink 182, a fake ass pop punk band, and use him as the means to disseminate the disclosure stories. Utterly retarded. This is disinformation 101. Okay, generals are not going to disseminate UFO information through a pop punk singer. But there's a key piece of data that I want everybody to go watch because it would really help you have discernment. And if you watch this documentary and think about actually makes the most sense about this whole phenomenon of aliens. And why am I talking about aliens? Because there's so many parallels to counterintelligence or disinformation type operations and what we're seeing now rolled out on a massive scale that it would really do well for you guys to understand this position and to understand what's going on. Now. I think you can watch Mirage Men here for free on YouTube. But this documentary deals with the actual history of Air Force intelligence operatives and people like Richard Doty who were worked in counterintelligence using alien mythology and alien disinformation on purpose. And one of the things that they would do is they would pick out of the conspiracy world people who were narcissistic personalities. Yes, you heard me right? They talk about this in the documentary and they use those personalities playing on their profiled self importance, right? So they profile people, they find them, they pick them out and they bring them in and they say, we're gonna. We're gonna use you because you're so special, you're so important. As the singer of Blink 182, as the, you know, Linda Moulton. How. As you know, I think one guy in the 70s was called Bob Moore or as Bob Lazar, right, Bob Laser, all of these guys who then disseminate the secret alien technology. And we always find in the case of these people that the stories are absolutely outlandish. They're totally narratives, there's holes all in the story. The people have no credibility whatsoever, and they gain a following and then they're done. So they're kind of limited hangouts, a lot of these situations. And we're going to be talking. This is very important because this is directly related to Candace's source for this nonsense, Project Camelot or Project Camel Toe, as I like to say, with Carrie Cassidy Kerry. Camel toe. Wait till you see the song to her, her show, the introduction to her shows, because it's pure Boomer wine mom comedy. But Mirage Men is. Is a very crucial watch. And you know, when you watch this, you know, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but you're gonna. You're gonna feel this. You're gonna feel sad because you. If you believed in the alien nonsense or any of this gibberish that comes out, you're gonna feel upset that you were lied to. And they interview the people behind these operations who are very candid about it. They even talk about how they bring in people from Hollywood to the military base to help stage famous UFO sightings. Okay? And this is what they show to people that they want to disseminate disinformation. Now, the people who are chosen, they don't know that they're necessarily. That they're part of disinformation operations. They think that they're actually, you know, important chosen people. This is the guy here that they chose in the 70s. Let's see if they name him here in gaining that person's confidence. And I used those techniques against Bill Moore. And they worked. Bill Moore and Bill Moore took me into his confidence and we had a professional relationship as far as him providing us information about the UFO community and agreeing to say things that we wanted said regarding the UFO community or within the UFO community, the process of studying this phenomenon and the people. So the guy ran or was involved in MUFON Mutual UFO Network in the 1980s. Bill Moore was a chosen operative of disinformation and he was an informant a, an in a and a source of intel on these idiot UFO groups. And they're, they're all very candid. This is an absolutely necessary watch. And by the way, this will really, I think if you watch this, this deflates the whole UFO nonsense, right? They even interview boomers like Linda Molten, how coast to coast veterans who, I mean it's, it's almost like they throw it in your face that you're stupid enough that you believe this stuff. I'm highlighting the, the main points of the documentary. I mean, they brought in people who worked on Star Trek to help film some of these classic UFO sightings, right? There's one where the UFO is supposedly taking off at an Air force base and that was filmed by the guys that, that filmed Star Trek. So like this is what you are believing, right? And the people who work in these kinds of areas, whether it's counterintelligence or disinformation, Black operations, PsyOps, etc. Another reason they do this and they study this is because a lot of this has to do with smoke screen and deflection. So for example, if they're working on some really advanced technology for drones or you know, Raytheon or whatever is working on some, some advanced Lockheed Martin style technology, this kind of stuff is a good cover for keeping those secrets. It's a way to kind of deflect. But it can also be a way to cover for other types of illegal operations. It could be human trafficking, it could be trafficking drugs, right? I mean, this sort of COVID allows for all kinds of nefarious activities to be done under the aegis of aliens and UFOs, right? And then when you listen to this nonsense, it's so obvious that this is just pure nonsense. And it's, and it's embarrassing really that people believe it honestly to believe this kind of stuff. And why are you believing, why would anybody trust this idiot pop star to disclose to the world the most important discovery in the history of humankind and it's this idiot pop punk star? Are you serious? You actually believe that magnetic Wave that is the foundation of everything, of all mass, of everything. Like it's. Some people call it zero point energy. Okay, so the singer of Blink 182 has figured out all physics mysteries because he knows everything now in this grand unified theory of how physics and zero point energy works. You really believe that? People call it the. The vacuum energy, but, like, one inch of air could power the United States for like hundreds of years. Kind of one inch of air can power the United States for hundreds of years. I mean, it's already just preposterous, pure nonsense. And why are y' all so stupid? Like, why are you guys believing this stuff? I don't understand it. Or maybe more. So what they got to do is isolate very specific atoms to where all the noise of all matter and cell phones and everything that's going on on Earth can be. Can be separated from this one atom. Yeah, I. I actually choose to believe, you know, Michael Stipe of rem. You know, when I'm going to go to the mysteries of metaphysics and the secrets of the universe, it's not Tom DeLonge and Blink182. It's clear, clearly, Michael Stipe of REM, right? And of course, he lost his religion. So I guess, like, how do we know which band really knows the secrets of physics and metaphysics? I mean, Is it Blink 1 8? Is it perhaps the Strokes? Maybe we should go to the Pogues. Maybe the Pogues know actually what's really going on. And I'm waiting for them to. To really give us the truths of zero point energy. Maybe it's RuPaul. I mean, seriously, the future is trans. How do we know RuPaul doesn't actually know the ancient esoteric mysteries of Sumerian looking glass? Technology can do that. With the right material, you can get access to that electromagnetic wave that's powering the atom, the invisible wave pattern that. That's under everything of all existence. I mean, who believes that Tom delong actually knows anything about physics at all? Does he even have a college degree? I don't even know. But come on. I mean, this is Terence Howard level, like, schizo stuff. And by the way, people are saying Candace is actually sounding more and more like a. Like she's gonna go to full Terrence Howard next, right? And my thought was, I mean, she's with that British lord dude, Candace, I mean, you need to find you a good brother, a fellow bipoc, like Billy Corson, okay? I mean, you're just like one foot away. You're one or two Episodes away from Billy Corson. Let's just go full Billy Corson. Oh, Prepper profit is a good point. He says it's not Tom Delong or R.E.M. it's actually the Insane Clown Posse that knows the secrets of physics and how zero point energy and levitation technology works. Oh, definitely right. Juggalos had it all along, y'. All. We should have just joined the Juggalo secret society community. They could have passed on the oral traditions of the Anunnakis. And once you do that, it's not.

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Like splitting an atom.

[A]

This is the power behind the atom. It's extraordinarily dangerous, but it's also what will turn Magnets, dude. How do they work? Going back to Bob and that technology, I want to know your opinions of when we look at the petrodollar and fossil fuels and the way that the world runs today and the knowledge that the government possesses and potentially possesses that could free us of all of that is the other thing that's interesting is, first of all, why does anybody. And why do most people immediately jump to the conclusions when there's any kind of this phenomena or technology that they see that it's alien, It's a total non sequitur. There's nothing immediately about a craft in the sky or some unexplicable, inexplicable video that immediately tells you anything to do with aliens or extra biological entities. But because we've been propagandized with a zillion Spielberg movies, that's the immediate leap that people, people make. That's why propaganda and fiction is much more effective than propaganda done through, you know, news repeaters. There's plenty of news repeater propagandist, Walter Cronite, CFR classic propagandist, news repeater for the establishment and all of those, you know, boomer era, you know, Dan Rather, talking head people were all just, you know, mouthpieces for the intelligence establishment and the Council for Relations. Absolutely. However, now, because people don't listen to them, they're just simply choosing the pop stars to push this. Now, it wasn't just Tom delong. Do you remember that Demi Lovato was also pushing the alien narrative? Do you remember that Katy Perry was pushing the alien narrative? And again, all of the alien stuff is just an analog example of the exact same type of disinformation that's being pushed, unfortunately, through the new supposedly biggest media outlet. Now, I'm assuming that that's true. I haven't fact checked to see whether she is the biggest podcast people are Saying that since she's adopted all this nonsense, that her podcast has lost popularity. I don't know. But whether she's in the top five or not, it doesn't really matter to me. Except that that's why it's worth covering. Because if the biggest people in media now, the biggest outlets are going to be pushing the same type of Tong delong Tom to schlong bull crap, then it is worth talking about. And I understand that when people are new to these topics, you go through the, you know, the cycle and the phase. But I'm not new to these topics. I've been into these topics for 25 years or so. I mean, I've got. Let's look at a couple of the examples here. This is the original first, I think, David Ike, Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center. I've had this book for, I don't know, 15 years. I read a significant amount of the first David Ike text. And is there some of it that's true? For example, does he have a chapter that discusses yeoman $0.05 reality in the Cheetah Uri? Well, he has a chapter talking about problem, reaction, solution, and that's true. Well, Candace talks about a lot of true things. Like you do. Yeah, that wasn't in question. The question is, what does disinformation do and how does it work? What about more David Ike? Oh, you mean this giant 700 page David Ike book, Perception Deception, which I've read? Oh, yeah, I've got that one too. You don't actually deal with the claims? Yeah, no, I actually do. I actually read the books. I've read hundreds of books in the last 25 years. There's my notes. And what ends up happening is that there's a lot of truth that's mixed in with completely batshit crazy stuff. Very same thing happens in the domain of MK Ultra Sex Kitten Survivor World. Okay, guess what? I've read a bunch of those books too. I've read Kathy o' Brien's Transformation of America. I've read Bryce Taylor. I've read Fritz Springmeyer and Cisco Wheeler. I've read all of the. I don't know about all of them. I read Fiona Barrett's book. Now what happens is that you get these credible stories, okay, in the case of the MK Ultra Women, where, okay, I was a former Playboy Playmate and Hugh Hefner trafficked me, and then you'll look up this person and turns out, yes, they were actually a Playboy Playmate. Okay, sure, that's. That's very possible. That Something happened with you and Hugh Hefner. We know that Hugh Hefner did have connections to the intelligence agencies. We know that it's very likely that the Playboy Mansion was bugged and probably was compromising people. And then you'll be watching these people's stories or their interviews or reading their books, and then suddenly the next chapter is the ancient Sumerian Acadian demon technology that the elites are getting through, drinking the. A drink of chrome from the. You know, from the pineal gland of the. It's like, what? So it went from credible to insane. Now, in some of the cases of the people that have been traumatized, I'm sure that they mean well and they are sincere and they've been put through stuff, and they're. They're looking for answers, and then they come across crazy stuff that they think puts the story together and they fall for it. Do you remember at the time of pizza stuff, there were multiple profiles that popped up on Twitter. One of them was a girl who. I forget her name, but it was something like she claimed to have been trafficked by Tom Hanks, and she was just. Every day it was about Tom Hanks. Right? And a lot of people bought into this, and then that got synthesized with the qtard crap. But the point where I noticed that her story wasn't making sense was when it suddenly became, they're doing this because they're all actually Sumerian Acadians. She said it's the Sumerian Acadians that are running everything from behind the scenes in the underground bases. Okay. Once you start hearing the underground base stuff, and there are underground bases, but once you start hearing underground base stuff, immediate red flags. There's no alien clones and underground bases. Let's go to another classic disinfo piece. Let me see. Let me see if I can think of that. This one has been floating around the conspiracy world for, like, 20 years. Is it this one? Maybe you can find all kinds of, you know, retired generals and major colonels and all these that have the same story of, I was taken to the underground bases, and they showed me the cloning facilities where they've got the aliens bodies that they're working on. I mean, it's just nonstop gibberish. And then what happens is that it gets recycled. This same story will be said, you know, 20 years ago on the History Channel by Linda Moulton Howell, as you see right here. Right. And then It'll get repeated 15 years later by Tom DeLong or somebody else. Right. There's a specific one. I'm looking for. I might have to go into full on Skitso World with this website to find this one. Let's see if we can find the classic aliens in the underground bases, the clones and all this nonsense. So it doesn't even come up here on this website. So I don't know, maybe their search doesn't work, but maybe it'll come up on X. Let's see if we can pull it up over here. Now let's see. See, we can't even get it on. On. On here. But you'll notice that Carrie Cassidy. By the way, who is Candace's source? This is Candace's source on her new episode. She's gone full Project Camel Toe here with Carrie Cassidy. And let's take a look at Carrie Cassidy. Is she a viable vetted source here? Okay, so she works with her husband Bill, who founded Project Camel Toe Lot, and she's an investigative documentary filmmaker exposing aliens and what's her handle? Camelot Q carry Q supporter. Qtard crap. And I've seen Project Camel Toe videos for the last, I don't know, 20 years of conspiracy nonsense. If you were to scroll through this, you would find just the most absolute, batshit insane stuff ever. I mean, it is like the ultimate boomer conspiracy, just nonsense. Right? But if you really want to see the secrets, let me play you Carrie Cassidy's theme song. Because she's a Jaguar. Yes, you heard me right. She's a Jag. She's a Jag. She's a Jaguar. This is the source. This is Candace's source. Okay? This is what you guys are tripling down on. You idiots. You idiots. Cussing me out today. Calling me every name in the book. This is what you're siding with. You.

[D]

Okay, so do you read Sanskrit or pre. Sanskrit. Because I understand you're. You're also studying tablets that you f. That were found in the United States.

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Isn't that true? Oh, yeah. Feel those vibes. It's about to get sexy and mystical up in here. Y' all ready to get sexy and mystical? Get that box one out, baby. Pull out some of that burgundy or some of that. Some of that strawberry Franzia. You know what I'm saying? You know what? Want some of that burgundy, baby? Let's have a little sip. Just get. Just. Just pull that little plug out. Suck. Get a little suck off of that. Off of that nipple of that box. Cuz it's about to get sexy.

[D]

There is a jaguar outside my door. See? Stretched out and purring. Waiting for more. Strange shade of Stone deep cat eye green. No way to escape. No one hears my scream.

[A]

There is a jaguar outside my door. He's so much scratching that I'm scratching for more.

[D]

He's come here so often. Just when I'm alone I can't help belonging I'll feel any more.

[A]

The jaguar is scratching and she's moaning. This is getting kind of weird. What the heck is she talking about? Oh, we got a. We got a Reddit man in the chat. Oh, you talk to a sky daddy. You talk to a sky daddy. Okay. Do you want to. You want to call in Mr. Reddit man there, Remy. Let me give you this, the Twitter space and put down your Totino's pizza rolls, Reddit man, And let's hear your smashing logical argumentation. Here is the link, Remy. Isn't Remy some kind of a black drink? You know what I'm saying? Isn't that what my people drink? Is that Remy there is a like a cavacier or something called Remy in it? Or is that I don't drink none of that nasty stuff? Trying to get the link, dude. There is a jaguar outside my door. He's scratching and crying for more. I am moaning as I suck on the burgundy box wine. There's the link dog. Let's listen to this music.

[D]

He's a giant. He's a giant. He's a giant.

[A]

You are.

[D]

He's a job. He's a child. He's a J. You are. He's a child.

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J.

[D]

He's a J. He's a J. You are. He's a jock. He's a jock. He's a J.

[A]

You. These boomers are on point, dude. Exposing the deep state.

[D]

Stretched out and purring. Waiting for more stream Sheet of stone deep cat ey green.

[A]

You'll wait.

[D]

Way to escape. No one hears my scream.

[A]

No one hears the scream. A jaguar.

[D]

He's a J. He's a J. He's a jaguar. He's a J. He's a J. He's a jaguar. He's a jack. He's a J. He's a J.

[A]

You are. Is that enough or y' all want more? Do y' all want the whole musical ensemble? Y' all had enough? So this is Candace's source. Project Camelot. You heard me right. For Project Looking Glass, a 2012 interview with Carrie Cassidy and some guberd talking about how the Sumerian time portal technology stopped working in 2012. Now all of you idiot Candace followers and cult members cussed me out and called me names. Hundreds of them in the last several weeks. Hundred, maybe thousands. Okay, so you wonder why I keep replying on this is because this idiot cult literally thinks that they have solved the mysteries of the universe together with Candace and Tom delong, Tom to Schlong and all of these idiot boomer disinfo people that you've. That you bought, that you buy into. This is how dumb you people are. And I'm calling you dumb and calling you names because you keep tripling down and you keep calling me out and saying about me. Oh, you just do what Alex tells you. I disagree with Alex Jones on multiple things, as I already said. And Alex never has told me to not talk about criticizing classical liberalism. He's never told me to not criticize evangelical whatever. So. And what does Alex Jones have to do with whether or not Alex is telling the truth or not? Literally nothing. It's nothing whatsoever. So let's hear a little bit of this, then we'll go to the calls.

[B]

Guys, Happy Wednesday. I'd like to everyone in the chat right now saying, yup, yup, yup. It had a cornucopia. I knew you guys were my people. I want to start by saying that the way that I feel, the way that I think a lot of you.

[A]

Feel the way that she feels. This is another common refrain. Her feelings have nothing to do with what's true. And this is a big red flag here because she's appealing to her wine mom, soccer mom audience who goes by how they feel. The sad part about all this, by the way, before I meant to mention these other books, is like, if you, if you really want to know what's going on, it. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of time to read and most people are lazy. Most people don't read. And that's why you guys don't get anywhere, is because you don't read. You spend your time on YouTube. You spend your time on Tick Tock, which is the lowest IQ tier of the conspiracy gibberish. Just total nonsense all the time. And you don't actually go and read the materials. You don't read books like One Nation Under Blackmail, which is actually a really well done journalistic expose on this type of material. Is it perfect? No. Do I agree with Whitney Webb on everything? No. But that's a grounded, sourced book. Okay? There's a book called Old Boys that we're reading right now on my, my reading list, my Oprah's reading list. Okay? This is a very long, historical, technical book written by a guy from the Council on Foreign Relations. This tells us what they Believe about their history, just like tragedy and hope. But you guys are not going to read these books. And that's why you get duped. You don't do the homework, but I do the homework. And if you're envious and you talk at me because I actually go and do the work, that's actually a problem with you, not with me. It's not my fault that you didn't do the work. It's not my fault that you fell for these people's nonsense and then you double down because of your pride and your arrogance. That's a problem with you. Books like Milner Fabian conspiracy, super sourced, very historical, covers all the bases, British intelligence, all of it. Another good source. But those are 500, 600 page books. You guys are not going to read those books. You're going to go listen to little Oprah because you feel a connection with her and that's why you're duped.

[B]

The vibes that are surrounding us right now is that the details vibes that.

[A]

We feel just like Mary. Mary assured her on the immaculate conception day that her stories were true.

[B]

Some sort of a panic, right? We've acknowledged that over and over again on the show. Something doesn't feel quite right. It feels almost like we are at the beginning of the end of a long satanic run. That's why, just so you guys know, despite the obviously sobering reality that the world is run by these people, I'm pretty optimistic every day. I can't explain it. I don't know why things are obviously coming apart, but like you gotta. Things have to come apart before they can be put back together. And they're just getting sloppy. And if I could put it into a sentence, I would say that it's almost as if our awareness is the threat. Right? Awareness. Just our.

[A]

So a little side note here on things that I've noticed with media people that get very, very popular, there's a similar phenomenon between Candace, Jordan, Peterson, Kanye. In all the cases of these individuals, when they get to this mega level of popularity, what often happens is that they take on a messiah complex and they sort of booted out of their life, which is one of the worst things that they can do for their, for themselves. They've removed from their inner circle anyone who would give them pushback. So you wonder why a lot of stars and celebrities and people go insane. It's because they get very prideful, which it's. It would be almost impossible without, you know, extreme divine grace to avoid being seen as this sort of salvific figure when you've got millions of people just like worshiping everything you say. So it's very difficult for people who aren't repentant and in the, in the church and even people in the church is going to be difficult to not fall into this delusion. You're going to think of yourself as God has sent me, as this almost prophet like figure. And we've seen that with all three of these characters. Now, for example with Jordan Peterson, eventually at a certain point he felt like it was his destiny he was called to save the west and he was going to do it through his archeology of ideas that he would go back into the mythology of the ancient world and piece together this possible worldview and paradigm for the future so that we could survive. Right? It's a delusion. And is there anyone in those circles to give pushback? Well, the problem is that you've surrounded yourself with media people who don't want to give you any pushback because they don't want to jeopardize a media relationship. So they don't give you critiques, they don't give you pushback and you're so full of yourself that you don't want that. You feel like, because you do get a lot of attacks, you immediately feel like anyone who's criticizing you or giving a little bit of pushback is attacking you and double, you know, stabbing you in the back and you know, whatever. So that's why It's a catch 22. It's a double edged sword to get in these positions where you don't have rational, sane people giving you pushback and you just sort of huff your own toots all day long, so to speak. Same thing with Kanye. Kanye felt like at a certain point he was Jesus, he was going to do his own Bible, right? And then when he converts, he's now the going to be the preacher of Jesus. Jesus's number one homie, right? And then all of that falls apart because of the delusion of being so arrogant and so prideful and so full of pre last that you can't be corrected. That's the problem. So as Jim Bob said on his stream today, you actually become your own worst enemy. So there's a curse to this whereby the more that you begin to believe that you're the anointed prophet to save Western civilization, to save the world, you're Jesus number one homie. You and Charlie Kirk are twin flames that are going to save the time continuum and you know, Doc Brown is going to get you back Together through building a flux capacitor. All this. Dude, it's so obvious to, I think, people who've noticed this pattern in this track. Setting aside the information, this is a separate topic from. Is every point that she's saying false? No, we're not saying that. Is every point that she's saying true? No. And what I'm saying can apply to everyone. It's not just those three people. It could apply to Alex Jones, too. Alex can be wrong about his view of when, you know, when he gets on Joe Rogan and he says stuff that. Where he speculates about quantum stuff or whatever, I don't agree with all that. But the other thing is that somebody that. That black dude that was trying to call me out, that I don't think he won't ever come to bait. He said, oh, why you. Why aren't you going to debate Alex Jones? Because he said the same thing. He didn't say the same. Same thing. He said that AI can have predictive algorithmic technology that gives you a percentile prediction of what is likely to happen in the future. Okay? That's real. That's not the same thing as stolen Sumerian ancient technology. That's a portal into the future. That's not real. Okay? That's the difference. That's a big difference. One of them is real, the other one's not. So even the analogy to Alex doesn't even work because it's not even the same. But, you know, when Alex starts talking about theology, I disagree with him and Alex has never told me. I don't want you to talk about that on the podcast. I've always been able to talk about on the fourth hour, whatever I want to talk about and pretty much have any guest I want on. So. So none of that has anything to do with what with whether Mishnow was reliable or whether the Foreign Legion was coming to kill her or whether. I mean, this episode is even crazier than I even could have imagined. So I'm actually glad that the Candace cult people were saying, oh, you need to go watch this, because you didn't actually watch it, because she was just speaking rhetorically. No, she's not. It's even worse than what you said, you idiot liars. It's 10 times worse than that. And we're going to show. We're going to. We're going to see it today.

[B]

Conscious of what they are doing somehow spells their doom. Which is bringing me to wanting to discuss today, as I promised you, the CIA's Looking Glass Project, now we Briefly touched upon this at the end of last episode. Obviously I'm a conspiracy girly and I'm thrilled that we get to dive a little bit deeper on this topic. For those of you that don't know, the first thing that I want to remind you guys is exactly what I said at the top of the show. It is an absolute fact that Charlie Kirk thought that he was a time traveler. He told me he was a time traveler repeatedly. I showed you guys that text message exchange. I said to him in response that I didn't feel the same way and.

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That I thought at this point though, I don't even believe. I don't know that I even believe or can trust her supposed text messages or that she's even able to competently interpret a text message. Because what you get in the conspiracy gematria level community or like the Jordan Maxwell level community, people don't understand basic ideas in literature. They don't understand hyperbole. They don't understand word concept fallacies. They don't understand that words can have different meanings. So for example, you know, think of the classic Jordan Maxwell tell live vision. The television is tel. Lie vision. It's lying to you. Okay? The origin of the word television has nothing to do with the word lie. Literally nothing. So that's. That's like tik tock level, you know, bipoc my people's level conspiracy stuff. Atlanta is Atlantis, cuz that's the name Atlanta. I'm being serious. There's videos of people in Atlanta talking about how Atlanta is Atlantis because it's the name Atlanta. I've given you guys the analogy many times. I had a person come up to me at one of our live events who had some issues not trying to be mean, but he said he'd figured it all out because in the Garden of Eden they ate an apple. And Apple technology uses an apple as its symbol. Therefore, Apple, the company, was in the Garden of Eden and we are now in a simulation. That was his conclusion. Okay, that's. I'm sorry, but that schizo level nonsense, that is a non sequitur based on words being confused. And what schizophrenic people do, as we talked about in the last show, is that they will confuse the different meanings of words with the ontological reality. So if Apple in one context can mean the apple in the garden and Apple computers, they'll collapse these two into the same meaning. If you don't believe me, watch a lot of interviews and documentaries on people with schizophrenia. And that's exactly what they do. They will confuse words and ontological realities and yes, it becomes solipsism. Of course, I've heard of solipsism. We've. I've done. I've written articles and done podcasts critiquing it for years. And solipsism is similar to this delusion where everything is a manifestation of your mind and you are the center of all reality. So these are all red flags. These are all warning flags. Not because I hate these people, but because I do actually care about what's true. And all these people calling me out and calling me names all day long, cussing me out, just shows that, like, and. And every one of these people has no idea what my views actually are. You. You say the same thing. No, I don't. Let's take an example. The Gateway Process is a real document. You can actually go read the PDF of the Gateway process. Now, the Gateway Process is a document studying the possibility of different esoteric and sort of fringe medical techniques, Right? It talks about transcendental meditation, right? Like David Lynch. It talks about biohacking and biofeedback. It talks about remote viewing. It talks about meditation, okay? It doesn't even know or necessarily posit that all of these things actually tap into. It's a study of those things. Much like the Stanford Research Project and Stargate, which is real, was studying remote viewing. Now if you just watch a mainline documentary on remote viewing and project Stargate, they admit that, yeah, we studied this and it didn't really produce enough results to continue the funding, so we stopped funding it. That's just the mainline story. I can't believe you believe it, Dyer. Well, where is the evidence then that it continued on and that there really are X Men children? There really are Elevens and, you know, stranger things, kids running around. There's no evidence of that. That's also part of the New Age narrative the Indigo Children like John talked about, which, by the way, Tom delong started some Starfleet Academy for the X Men kids. This is literal Gaia level stuff. You were on Gaia? I was on Gaia because John. Because what's his face? Blow the beans. What's his name? Because he was the video producer there and he wanted to do a show with me. Now, when you watch the episodes, do I ever say that aliens exist? Do I ever say that there's interdimensional portal technology and I'm not joking. No, I don't ever say any of that, because the Gateway Process, which is a real document, which we cover right here as we actually walk through the document. We talk about these esoteric practices and these studies and what it, what it led to. And guess what? It didn't really produce much as far as we could tell. So the people saying you talked about the exact same thing that Candace talked about. No, I didn't. I've never talked about Looking Glass as a time travel time portal, future technology, total bull crap. Just make, just people just making up nonsense which shows they didn't actually watch the Gateway process podcast. Now Project Looking Glass, Is that real? Guess what? There is a Project Looking Glass, but it has to do with tabletop exercises in terms of national defense. Here it is right here. This is the actual document of Project Looking Glass. And I know. Oh, she's talking about the other one. There is no other one. That one's. Let's take a look. This document is to. For an analyst or the voice of the intelligence community. Intelligence failures can result from inadequate collection of data, etc blah, blah, blah. Therefore, this is a priority of the new Director of National Intelligence. This is a 2016 memoir, the Commission on the Capabilities of the US regard to WMDs and the possibility of future attacks. So this is a tabletop war gaming exercise that has to do with collecting intelligence on supposed terror threats. Looking Glass disambiguation, military buildup, aircrafts, Boeing and the Navy. It's a bunch of boring military crap, build up crap. Absolutely nothing to do with seeing into the future, nothing to do with Babylonian Sumerian relics, nothing to do with Charlie Kirk, nothing with any of that. Now what is funny is that when looking a bunch across a bunch of websites for various PDFs or the possibility, and now feel free to correct me if there is an actual Looking Glass document which the CIA somehow researched the possibility of peering into the future, which I'm sure in the SRI projects they consider that possibility, but there's no evidence that any of that was successful. They did anything. If there is, show me where is any PDF or documentation or declutter. And I'm at like the famous this is the Black Vault site, which is all the FOIA documents. This, this came out and got popular at the time of Snowden and WikiLeaks stuff. And by the way, even still, you know, they can declassify fake documents. Did you not even think about that? So even if there is some document, remember that document supp. Oh, the CIA declassified the Tartaria document. There's no Tartaria document. Oh, it talks about Pole Shift. There's a publication that was for whatever reason classified for Some time that had 60, 70 pages worth of articles. And there was an article that considered the possibility of pole shifts and that that had some effect on the medieval world and agriculture. Okay, that doesn't mean that the CIA is hiding the, the coming Nibiro Planet X pole shift bull crap. And if you don't have evidence of that, then what are you talking about? You're just spouting. Now. When looking for Project Looking Glass, I did find this interesting website, which is a full on schizo website full of gamatria rabbit trails of Matrix nonsense, Area 51. And I'm not. I wouldn't even be surprised if Candace didn't come across her or her team didn't come across the schizo website, the Geocities website with the reverse rabbit, white rabbit and Project Aquarius and the Looking Glass facility that's at S4 within Area 51. Okay, so this is pure Boomer tier geoci. Oh, and what do you know? It's got time travel technology within it. Interesting. And it's about the time the doctrine of convergent timeline paradox. Okay. So if you really want to know what's going on, you got to watch Back to the Future, Inception, the Matrix, and you'll figure out the Platonic solids and the swivel point, which is 42, and the source delta points of 011-231-2312. This is schizo stuff. I mean, have you ever watched documentaries on famous, say Internet schizophrenic people? I'm being serious, I'm not being mean. There's a channel I think called Chilling Scares. It's a popular kind of spooky channel. Right. And most of his stuff though is not about ghosts. His stuff is about real stuff. And he did a great video on a. What was the name of that one? There was a guy who, who was like a physicist or something, I think, and he went. He had. He got schizophrenia and he's like a famous case. It might be this one. Let's see if it's this one.

[E]

Didn't trip on Aug. Yeah, it might be this one.

[A]

Yeah, this is. That might be this guy here.

[E]

What's the deal with this video? Is it real or just an elaborate hoax?

[A]

Because that was a guy claiming that he was like stuck in an acid trip for like a week. Here it is. This is it right here. This is it. This guy.

[E]

The guy in it genuinely thought he was tripping for two months. Amos might have stumbled across the initial post before it disappeared and then decided to create a hoax based on it. Unfortunately, given the sparse amount of information I found, it's impossible to nail down the truth in the off chance everything was real. I hope the person in the video found the helping.

[A]

It's this guy.

[E]

Poorly planned comics.

[A]

So the guy that did poorly planned comics was a guy who developed schizophrenia. And his, his comics stayed up online. And there's multiple people in this, I think. I think there's another guy. This is different from the physicist guy. He might be at the end of it, I'm not sure, but. So this guy, for example, was drawing kind of silly comics or whatnot. And as time progressed, as he, as he drew more and more comics, he believed that he had kind of discovered, like, the secrets of reality. And it tied into TV shows that he was watching and cartoons. And so you'll notice here he's tying in this Disney cartoon. And it's just. If you think about this in the sense of symbolic analysis or, you know, iconography, let's. Let's look at what I'm talking about with this point where people mix up symbol and referent, especially with schizophrenia, they collapse the references into the same metaphysical reality, right? So they start thinking, oh, all of these things are here for a purpose, and they all sort of mean the same thing, right? Watch this.

[E]

Before he ended his life, starting with the statement, if you are reading this, I am dead, the rest of the comic listed his will for his various possessions, both physical and digital. Below the comic, there was also a personal reminder Jack had left for himself, listing things he needed to do. However, the most mysterious part of the comic was this. A link that explained why Jack did this. Clicking on this link led to an archive of thousands of emails between Jack and various people, including friends and what seemed like an online therapist. These emails are in no particular order and have absolutely zero organization. So as you might imagine, going through them is a long and arduous task. Unlike other Internet mysteries, where there's barely any information here, there's almost too much more than any one person could easily go through. I went through as much as I could, and one thing became extremely clear. Jack was struggling with severe mental illness. That much was already clear from his comics. But going through these emails gave me a good idea of the exact illness Jack was dealing with. For starters, Jack had extreme schizophrenia, which led him to having extremely violent and disturbing thoughts. In one of his emails, he stated, I'm full of seething, boiling hatred, pain, and the only reason I'm not going out killing people right now is that I'm lucid enough not to want to deal with the consequences of such behavior. In addition to this, Jack also had dissociative identity disorder, or D.I.D. for short. This is evident from his constant mentions of a person named Susie, which he referred to as his best friend and better companion than no one.

[A]

But anyway, you get the idea, you can go watch the rest of Chilling Scares video. It's a pretty good video here, if you're interested in that topic. But there's another guy who was a physicist. He just popped up, by the way, on, on my Twitter the other day. If anybody in the chat knows who I'm talking about. He's kind of an Internet famous person who was, you know, like a mathematician or physicist. And he kind of gradually went kind of crazy, but he, he created a Temple. Temple something. Temple Os. Temple. It's like a program, like a DOS program, something to do with temple. This is it. Temple os. Yeah, this is it right here.

[C]

I can't believe most people who use computer don't pay very much attention to the operating system.

[A]

Now this is important because you're going to notice the similar sorts, yeah, Terry Davis has said, the similar parallels with how they begin to collapse symbols and reference there.

[C]

It works. As long as it keeps going, that's just good enough. In fact, you probably wouldn't be all that we know about today. Davis, to the surprise of no. Growing up during the 70s, he was one of the lucky people who got to experience the true explosion of the home computer market as it happened, rather than having to view it retrospectively through vintage computer channels on YouTube like most of us have to now. Now the thing is, Davis was not simply prepared to let the world of computing go wherever it wanted, just dragging him along behind it. He wanted to shape the future. In spite of being born seventh of eight children, an environment that doesn't usually lend itself to an abundance of spare cash, he was able to get his.

[A]

Hand.

[C]

For gifted students at his school in Wisconsin. By the time he was 13, he had not only moved on to the Commodore 64, but also taught himself assembly codes.

[A]

And so he becomes a famous, you know, computer coder guy. I'm going to skip ahead a little bit to where it's a little more relevant to what we're talking about.

[C]

In order to be safe, he knew, he just knew that this was the voice of God. The start of Davis's direct communications with God were, shall we say, equal parts confusing and tumultuous. Upon arriving in Texas, he himself claimed to have dismantled his car in search of tracking devices. Before disposing of the keys and wandering off into the desert. If it were not for the fact that he was spotted by an officer of the law and transported back towards civilization.

[A]

So in the case of Terry Davis, he's coding. He thinks he's figuring out the secrets of the universe, probably through analogies to how computers work. Oh, we live in a, you know, matrix or whatever. It's a code. And he begins to believe that because he's discovered something so powerful and so, you know, important. Important that it's the greatest discovery in history and the government's after him. Right. The agents are coming for him because of the importance of this amazing world changing discovery. Right. But that's feeding into the delusion and the delusion of grandeur. Right? So it's, it's. And I'm not saying that he wasn't in some way a victim. It could be, but I'm trying to say that even if you're a victim, you can still be a sinner. You can still give in to pride. Right? It's not all either. Or you can have a degree of volition and guilt, even in situations where you're not primarily guilty, but you can still concede to, or acquiesce to the temptation to pride and delusion, which is what a lot of this is built on. Now, in the case of Candace or in the case of these other people, they buy into conspiracy theories which then begin to dominate the entire worldview. Not saying that there's no conspiracy theories, but I'm saying that this becomes a worldview. It becomes a all pervading grand narrative. And because you've gotten so much opposition from people and you're in this position of having 5, 10 million followers, you begin to believe I'm a special anointed person who's figured it all out. Therefore, they've got to be after me. I've got to be being tracked. And I'm not joking. Okay? Now she could be a grifter, it could be fake, she could really believe it. I don't know the motives. I'm just going to go by as far as I can determine. And you'll notice when she gets to the part where she plays the Daily Wire Ben Shapiro video that was poking fun at her, she actually starts reading into it that the red letters are secret Mossad codes, that they're going to kill her. Okay? This is, I mean, that's where it's getting into like the Terry Davis level stuff here.

[C]

His story might have ended right there. Still, you know, God works In mysterious ways. And after telling Davis that the officer was in fact trying to abandon abduct him and he should jump out of the moving car, our programming genius ended up in hospital with a broken clavicle and a psychiatric observation order. Initially the doctors believed Davis to be bipolar, but he was eventually diagnosed with schizophrenia. Something that would not only cause Davis problems going forward, but would eventually lead to his demise. He invented his own programming language, built his own compiler, and developed the kernel from the ground up. This isn't a tech tutorial video, but it's probably worth explaining just a few things as well as you go along. I'm not going to go into huge detail, you probably don't want that. But compiling your own compiler, a specialized program that takes human written code in a high level programming language like C or Rust and translates it into a lower level machine code or assembly language that a computer's processor can actually execute is usually the job of dozens of people. We were unable to find any other examples of a single individual creating something of such complexity. Of course there might be. Really wasn't any other choice. Had he chosen to use a pre existing compiler such as GCC or llvm, then he probably would have had to limit himself to pre existing programming language. Davis had worked tirelessly to not only make it clear that the project was a work of God, but also to ensure that nobody forgot it. Technically speaking, it was pretty good for its time, or at least pretty good for what it was. TempleOS was a 64 bit operating system capable of taking advantage of multicore CPUs use, working with 3D graphics, gaming and even on a moderately powerful system booting in just a couple of seconds.

[A]

Now notice is everything that Terry Davis is doing insane? No, he's actually building a thing that works. It plays some games, it does some stuff. Right. So it's not like the progression is totally debilitating, but obviously there's something wrong, there's something off. And other people are saying in the chat, yeah, John Nash is another classic example of this. If you've seen the movie, you know, Beautiful Mind, it's. It's the same situation. Although I actually think in John Nash's case he might have actually, you know, there might have been because probably the nsa, he did work with the nsa, so like, who knows what could have really been going on with him. They might have been concerned, for example, that if he knew national secrets and he was beginning to be mentally unstable, that might be why he would be a security risk. Right, because then he could be, you Know, approached by Soviets or something like that. So that, I mean, that's also a possibility. Yeah, but you can watch the rest of the Terry Davis story if you want. I'll put it in the chat here. And the only reason I'm referencing that is that you, you'll, you'll see the parallel to the idea of I'm the anointed prophet who's here to sort of change the world. I've discovered the great mystery and, oh, it turns out it was, you know, hidden within Lewis Carroll's, you know, two Alice novels and it ties into cern and here's all the My Geocities schizo websites that you can follow to figure it all out. It just becomes nonsense, right? It's pure nonsense. And unfortunately that's the direction that it's going in. But again, what did Richard Doty say openly in the Mirageman documentary? We find people like this to disseminate disinformation and those people can be manipulated, they could be abused, they could be mind controlled. All those things are possibilities. So, you know, again, what exactly is going on? I don't know, but I can tell you that it's getting worse and worse and that should be obvious to any of you that have discernment. So let's move on to more. What she says here, thought I was.

[B]

From another planet, that I was an alien my entire life. Just do not get it here. This planet is ghetto. That's how I feel. I don't understand it. The rules don't make sense. I think that's also why I like cats so much. I feel that they can relate to that.

[A]

They think that's what, you know, Jim Bob made a good point too, which I think we said the same thing in our last stream, is that this is beginning to move towards Gnosticism, Right? She keeps referencing the Matrix and how important the Matrix is to figuring out how the world really works. And The Matrix is 100 gnostic, right? I mean, we've talked about the Matrix from a conspiracy perspective probably for 15 years. And I think the last time we covered the Matrix with maybe the guys at Psyops Cinema who are orthodox guys, we pointed out how the Matrix really has blatant neo Gnostic themes. The idea being that this world absolutely makes no sense. This world is, you know, ultimately kind of a prison planet, perhaps created them by and by an evil God. And if it's a galactic ghetto and all that, then we're really just moving in the direction of Gnosticism. And I would not be surprised If Candace doesn't actually move towards believing again, something like Gnosticism or Yakub could is even on the table here.

[B]

Humanity is ghetto. They don't want to be around us. They don't like us. They know it's ghetto. It is ghetto here, right? Well, another bizarre fact is that back when Charlie and I were running around, we met in 2017, top of 2018. So I would say, obviously Turning Point was an organization, but it wasn't the organization. It wasn't the behemoth of an organization that it became. No, he had.

[A]

Okay, let me stress again, because of the idiots who come in saying this incessantly, I have critiqued evangelical black ops, CIA, fake churches for 10, 15 years. We've done podcasts on this, going back to afternoon commute, going back to hoaxbusters call 10 years ago. I did anti TPUSA, anti new absolute Reformation live streams a month ago. So do not come in here saying that I'm covering up for tpusa. Are you. Are you serious? Oh, you must believe Cash Patel. No, I don't. I don't. I'm a skeptic on all of these things. Sure.

[B]

No real degree of fame. I think that's fair. But he was required to have security on him at all times. That was orchestrated. His security Shaffer security was orchestrated by Bill Montgomery. He has since passed the late Bill Montgomery. And he was from the military. One of the. He founded Turning Point USA with Charlie. Charlie wanted to go to West Point and then instead started Turning Point USA when he was 18 years old. Thinking about that, the security, him texting, saying, I'm not allowed to go anywhere. I feel so important. I think was the exact message that to me is objectively weird in retrospect. Wasn't weird time weird now? And it makes me think that Charlie may have been marked since he was a child. We've discussed these gate programs that they have in school. And I just think on the basis of what he told me, that when he was really young, they wanted to drug him, but his mother said no. And he was really grateful for that. And instead they decided that they could send him to this X Men school. That's the best way I can describe it. I would certainly.

[A]

Okay, again, I was in the gate program in California, in San diego, in the 1980s. I know all about the gate program firsthand. There's no X Men program where you're. You're taking like, you know, l in Stranger Things. This is Stranger Things stuff. Okay. Now, they do groom people to be future roles Future leaders type stuff. For example, Claus Schwab had the young, you know, World Economic Forum leaders thing. That's real. In trying to remember whose book it was, I want to say Servando Gonzalez's, you know, intelligence analysis book. He talks about how people are. Are spotted and recruited into the cfr, into the Rhodes scholarship programs very early. And that could be middle school. I mean, maybe it could be younger than that. Who knows? Maybe if you come from an elite family, it could be. But for the most part, that recruiting happens in high school and then you're. You're recruited in college. Right. Something akin to what you see in, I don't know, Good Shepherd. Right, where you have Matt Damon being recruited into the early OSS by British Intelligence. Right, that kind of a thing. Yeah, but this idea that you're chosen when you're a kid and then you're through the GATE program and then you're sent to, you know, some X Men, Professor X's school, it's just total. Dude, that's just nonsense. And they, they try to drug all kids. Okay? There's nothing special about. Oh, they had to drug Charlie because he was just some, some future quasi savior. Why are they making Charlie Kirk into this quasi savior? This is another weird thing too. Now, I don't have any disdain or dislike for Charlie Kirk. I didn't really follow him or keep up with his stuff. I think it was a tragedy that, you know, he was taken out. But I think what makes a lot more sense is that the motivations would be to take him out by the left. But there could be other nations that had motivations to take him out because of beginning to move away from, you know, that level of support for foreign nations. That's possibility too. But again, another sign of, of problem here is every week the narrative changes like an X Files episode. Okay. I mean, what, two months ago it was the planes and then. And it was the tunnels, and then it was. Before that it was. And then it was the tunnels, then the planes, the Foreign Legion, the Mossad, the. I mean, the, the narrative just keeps getting diff shifted so that you don't remember the. From last week. And I'm so disappointed in all the people who claim to be truthers out here who can't notice that. It's just. It's just sad, really.

[B]

By the way, for you, Internet, I'd like to find out which school Charlie had to attend. So he was pulled out of regular school. He was attending and he had to go to some special school for the gifted, like he was next, man. And I am of the opinion. It's an opinion. I'm allowed to have it. It's obviously not a fact, but I am of the opinion, based on the discussions I had with him, that he's been monitored since that his test scores, whatever the score, every test they probably did on him, he was off the charts. And.

[A]

Yeah. So in other words, Charlie is L from Stranger Things. And like that guy said on Twitter, you can literally tell what fiction shows she's been watching. So if she was pregnant for the last several weeks, she was laying around watching Netflix. And then basically she was watching these shows and was like, okay, yeah, this is what's happening. Charlie is L from Stranger Things and his powers were too great. So they had to monitor him and drug him. I mean, why not just take him out? Like, it's not like that the NWO has any problem. I mean, they killed how many children in Iraq, you know, in the war in Iraq, Right. Oh, but no, Charlie was special. He was guarded by God and protected. And they couldn't take him out because they had to wait until this. The. The time space continuum allowed it. When, you know, the Spring Hill clock tower struck 11. Right. That's when they had to do it. No, I mean, this is just so preposterous.

[B]

Wanted to make or that he was being watched. That's my theory in general on all kids that are in extraordinary and gate type programs. Maybe we should be training our kids to get like an 85.

[A]

Why don't you ask people that are in the gay program or like talk about the actual, like what it is. Right. So all this was. And I could tell you the bad part of it. I made a video on this. So when I was in San Diego in the 1980s, California had. Was pioneering a lot of this stuff. Gifted and talented education program. And it basically is a. A sort of a experimental way to test new education models to see if these would be better ways for children to learn. That's at least the public story of this. Right? And it would single out very high IQ children. That's why I was put into this program. I tested as having a really high iq and they put me into this from fourth to fourth to sixth grade. And really all it was was you had a separate room where you would read books instead of doing a lot of rote memorization type stuff. I don't. I remember having to take a test where you would listen for sounds. But that was part of the IQ test. That had nothing to do with like, oh, they Put things on my ears to make me listen to tones, to mind control. It was just part of the. Just part of the IQ test. That's all it was. And I do believe that, yes, you could have people in the gate program spotted and recruited into thing. Into things, and perhaps, you know, abused by the government. That's all possible. But none of this immediately speaks to or is in. Is in any way a. A It's a non sequitur to say, oh, well, because Charlie Kurt was in the gate program, therefore he had to have been monitored from birth because he was a threat to the, you know, time continuum by the Archons, right? This is like David Ike level, right? This is Indigo Children stuff.

[B]

On the test, most, at most, before the government agents are gonna swoop in and go, who is this genius child? You know? And a lot of weird things used to happen to Charlie. He would go on runs. I think I told you guys this after sundown. And when he was running, street lights would go out. Like it.

[A]

Okay, so let's see what the evidences are that lack. That stack up here that weird events happened to Charlie which make it possible that he was l. From Stranger Things. Okay? When he would run, the street lights will go. Guess what? That happens to everybody. Okay? I go on walks. I've run, I run. And street lights go out. It doesn't mean anything. It means absolutely nothing. I don't have an extra, you know, emanating vibe essence that shuts off the street lights. Okay? But this is what she's rolled out as her first piece of evidence that Charlie had weird things happen to him. Okay? This is. This is. This is chill's level stuff, guys. And I like chills. It's entertaining. But this is not journalism. This is not proof of anything. This is like entertainment level stuff. You guys know chills is, right? Number four. Burger King foot lettuce. Right? Number 15. This clip shows a normal psychedelic filter, the electric color surrounding the girl in frame. She then turns her camera to span the room. The filter follows for a moment before becoming absent from the shot. As. I mean, I'm starting to think Candace has been watching too many Slapped ham videos or too many chills videos, because it's going full chills.

[B]

It was like. It was a burst of energy, like he was a lightning bolt or something. So to slow this down for you, there are just, in general, all of these inexplicable experiences that we have in life, and they try to make it weird for us to discuss them, like just even being philosophical.

[A]

No. Nobody thinks it's weird to discuss that because everybody talks about weird experiences that they have. There's gigantic YouTube channels with millions of views and millions of followers every day talking about weird experiences. Gigantic Tick Tock followers. Nobody thinks that's weird. What's weird is to leap to conclusions that are the most outlandish or the most irrational. Now, I do think that weird things happen, right? But what a mature adult does is that you typically look for the most rational explanation first, because that's more likely. Let me give you another example of this. That happened to me a couple years ago with a fellow YouTuber streamer person who got mad at me because we had a debate, an argument over something that was so stupid I could not believe that he was doubling and tripling down on this. Do you remember a few years ago, there were these mysterious rings appearing in the sky? See these? Remember this? And if you follow the, you know, spooky video sphere, as I like to do for fun, this was a popular thing on tick tock and YouTube and whatnot. And people were saying, is this an alien manifestation? Okay, you guys remember kj, who, you know, I was friendly with? We were nice, too. I was always treated him cool. He had me on his channel a couple times, and KJ kept making videos about how the smoke rings or the smoke monsters were demonic alien manifestations. And I sent him this video and I said, no, kj, these are obviously. You can rent these for parties. Okay? You can rent a smoke machine that creates a giant ring in the sky. There it is right there. It is not an alien manifestation. It is not otherworldly. And KJ tripled down and then made a video exposing orthodoxy as theosophy over me telling him this. And I was like, well, just what an idiot, dude. Like you want to be that much of it? And, and. And his channel at the time was huge. So people would rather believe that orthodoxy's theosophy and smoke ring machines that you could rent for parties are demonic manifestations. This is how silly this stuff is. And that's unfortunately the level that we're at over here.

[B]

Unfortunately, thinking about these things for a long term, for a long time. They don't want that. Deja vu is probably chief among them. We all have experienced deja vu. We are certain something happened, that we already did that, but it didn't actually happen. But I feel like it did. Oh, I just got a bad case of deja vu. Well, guess what? There's no official expert explanation for that. Sleep paralysis. For those of us who suffer that, I Did had some terrifying experiences before I knew what it was.

[A]

So notice there's another thing that we see, you know, that happens often in this domain. It goes all over the place. Right. For example, Father De Anas was recently debating on Cotel's channel a mushroom bro. A shroom dude. Right. A DMT bro. And it's a fascinating debate because there's no point at which there's a, a single thought or idea that is followed through with any like, thoroughness. It's this, to this, to this, to this, to this, to this, to this, this, this. All of these things that have absolutely no necessary connection. So she started with, we all have weird things happen to us. Yeah, sure. Okay. Charlie would walk and street lights would shut off. That happens to everybody. And we have deja vu. What does that have to do with what happened to Charlie? Nothing. No connection there. And they don't want us to talk about this. Who? There's no government agents that give a whether you're talking about deja vu. Like what? And now she's moved on to what was the last thing she said.

[B]

Here they don't really give us a full explanation for that. Similar. Also another example of things that are inexplicable and maybe somehow related to deja vu. The story. How about my husband? I've told it many times, how I got engaged 18 days later. No one believes me. They don't want to accept it. Except maybe Charlie Kirk, because he was there for it. But I already knew George. That's how I describe it. I saw his face. I know that doesn't make sense, but it happened that way.

[A]

Okay, so are you noticing a pattern that with her there is this mystical intuition that she just goes by and so she met George and married him within 18 days because she just knew him. There was this mystical twin flames idea that she just knew him. And the problem with this is that now millions of people, especially as she's vibing, as she said the beginning with all the soccer moms and the Karens, they now think that they are figuring all this out because they feel it. This is female logic, which is not logical. And I'm not being mean to the women, but this is why women are not really made for this type of stuff. Now, there are some exceptions. Some women do have very rational, very logical minds and they're capable to do certain activities that most women aren't. But that's very rare. Very rare. For example, Nina Kuprianovina, right? She is a very, very rational historian and she's a woman And I. I've never met a woman that's that sort of masculine in her rational process. And I'm just saying that just as somebody who's, you know, she's an acquaintance, right? But that's not most. Most women are not built that way, okay? Women are built for being nurturing, being, you know, fending and protecting the group, being feeling oriented for a reason. It's not actually a bad thing, right? The feminists have demonized female characteristics, which are actually beautiful, good characteristics that God made women to have. They're not bad things, but they're made for women things, just like men's characteristics are made for men things. And so when you get men, women in this domain, which is more properly a domain that men should be involved in, it becomes a thing based on feeling and intuition and mystical vibes. And it's not that those things are totally impossible, but for example, in the Orthodox Church, as we talked about on Jake's channel yesterday, if you have mystical experiences of a dream, a vision, the first thing you do in the Orthodox Church is you doubt it and you take it to your spiritual father. And what did I say about the Roman Catholic world? The first thing you do is believe it and do a podcast on it. Taylor Marshall with his visions of Mary's milkers. That's not me, that's him. If you think that's blasphemous, well, then stop following a blasphemer like Taylor Marshall, who's in delusion. Candace thinks that when she has a feeling on the Immaculate Conception feast day, that's Mary telling her that she's on the right track. Okay? This is a feminine approach to a domain that is not based on feminine feelings. This domain of geopolitics and conspiracy absolutely requires the most rigid masculine analysis and discipline. There's no other way to navigate the minefield that is geopolitics and media. It's just. It's just the truth, whether you like it or not. And that's why I've already seen at least three red flags so far. I feel this. The vibes tell me this. The dreams tell me this. This is absolutely, perfectly in synthesis with Roman Catholic histrionic mysticism. It's Roman Catholic charismaticism. That's the delusion here.

[B]

Looked at my husband's face and I already knew him. It was like a sigh of relief. And, yeah, there's other explicable events and things like Charlie telling me that he was going to die young anyway. Today we are going to be showing you clips from a YouTube channel called Be Inspired. We're going to link it in the comments as well, because they did such a fantastic job of diving into the. Into these phenomena and how they likely relate to another shady government CIA program which came to be known as Project Looking Glass. This actually happened. These are whistleblowers that came out like.

[A]

Now this channel that she's talking about is playing. The Carrie Cassidy video would fail when the date switched to the year 2000. All the software used only two digits to record years.

[E]

So two nails might be read as.

[A]

1900, potentially disrupting banks, credit cards and ATMs may cease to function. Hover grids, airlines, airplanes and trains may come to.

[C]

Governments and corporations spent over $300 billion updating systems.

[E]

It was one of the largest coordinated tech efforts in history.

[A]

People stocked food, withdrew cash, and prepared for the. Oh, I didn't even know we went full Y2K. Jim Bob skipped the Y2K part. So. Wait a minute. So she's tying in Y2K now? Okay, wait, let's go back because now I got to see what the heck y2k has to do with Charlie Kirk. This is so skitso, dude. This is so crazy, you guys. I mean, I feel so sorry for you guys. Believe in this nonsense. Rachel, did you want to say something before we go full skitso? You want to unmute?

[F]

Yeah, sorry about that. I had earbuds in and they were trying to connect or something. I was just wanting to chime in a little because I was also in one of these programs in the 80s and early 90s in Michigan. It was called the PEP program. So I was doing like long, long division and sentence diagrams and stuff in first grade and, you know, some pretty advanced stuff. When I got to high school, I got a perfect score on the MEEP test, which is like Michigan's Educational Assessment Program. I was one of, like 11 kids who did that in the whole state. And they made all of us sit down and retake the test with someone standing over our shoulder to make sure we couldn't cheat. And I did it again. So I got a full ride scholarship to school, which I never used because I just wanted to have a family and stuff instead. All that just to say it's kind of gay. Like, who cares, right?

[A]

You mean you weren't. You weren't put it. You weren't put into. Hold on, Rachel. You're saying you weren't put into a pod and linked up to the matrix and given LSD doses and ketamine to create the altars that would control you?

[F]

No.

[A]

Okay. No.

[F]

But I do think that part of the, the point of those. Because, like, they sent me to do, like, I won like a statewide trivia contest. I did debate stuff in high school and things like that. And I think part of it was to see, like, of the gifted kids, which ones could be ideologically, you know, placed into different things because they wanted me to go into like, biology, earth sciences and like, you know, probably climate change type of stuff.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. When I was in the game, teachers.

[F]

That were pushing, pushing, pushing really hard to get me to go in that direction.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[F]

I think it was the. Because like, the, the trivia competition I won had nothing to do with this. And I. I won a whole statewide trivia thing in 8th grade. I was like, oh, what am I gonna get, like a car? Like an exciting trip somewhere? Because it was on the news, it was this big deal. Guess what I got. I got an Earth squishy ball, like a stress ball that was like the planet Earth and like a little pencil for Earth Day. And they just turned it into like this Earth Day propaganda thing.

[A]

No. Yeah. So when I was in the gay program, they were pushing a lot of UNESCO stuff. So the real conspiracy of the gay program was to brainwash future potential leader people into believing UNESCO New Agey type stuff. I wasn't strapped down, nobody touched my butt. Nothing like that happened. But there was, There was a lot of, you know, promotion of the idea of in culture, multiculturalism, you know, Earth worship type stuff that was absolutely part of the California Gay program.

[F]

Yeah, that's. That's kind of what my experience was too. And I think the. I have the same Candace people freaking out on me. So does Andrew, where it's like, I used to love you guys and I used to watch everything that you did, but the fact that you just can't see that Candace is speaking the truth and they just go schizo.

[B]

It's.

[F]

It shows you kind of. Some people are. It's not that they're not intelligent, but it's like they lack this specific skill of being able to connect things. And when. When there's no connection. Recognizing when there's no connection between the things, but still trying to tie them together. And the way you can tell this, you can spot it in the language is they'll just say stuff like, this is weird. Well, don't you think this is weird? You. Are you saying that's not weird? And it's like, yeah, life's full of weird things, but it doesn't mean that Everything weird is connected.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's a non sequitur. Right. So you need to figure out when something could or could not or not necessarily logically follow.

[F]

Right. And that's. That seems to be the defining characteristic of the people who are hardcore Candace fans is that they do believe it's about intuition. It's like this. I just feel like something's off. Something in my gut is telling me, and don't you think this is weird? And how do you explain that? And it's like going through a normal day, any number of things will happen that are not instantly explainable or super obvious. And it's like those things, it doesn't mean they're all necessarily connected, like you said. And they just. They think that if you point out anomalies in a situation, this means there's something nefarious and that doesn't follow. And I keep telling these people, the minute that we get to the trial for Tyler Robinson, you're gonna see a ton of evidence come out that's not out there right now. This case is going to be locked down tight until they get to trial. And if it's televised and everything comes out, Candace Ian Carroll. All these people are going to have to retract a whole bunch of dumb that they've said.

[A]

No, they won't. They'll double down and claims that they've made. They're not going to retract anything. They'll double down and say that the trial was fixed and the trial's fake. That's what they're going to say. Right? True.

[F]

They'll say, this seven is. But it's like, okay, then no one has any way of knowing anything ever. And exactly the truth about how these things work. And this is the difference between goofy people who just started paying attention yesterday. And these are the same people telling me, rachel, you're running a Fed narrative flop. How much are they paying you to reinforce the Fed narrative? It's like, if you knew anything about me, you know, like, I have a piece on my sub stack where I talk about MK Ultra and transgender, like, programming stuff in pornography. Like, I have some stuff that's kind of out there, but I don't put it out unless I feel like I can confidently demonstrate the links and, you know, the. And. And make a really, really good case. I think of it like being a lawyer, if I don't have a really good case that I have a really high shot of winning, I'm gonn mouth shut about it. And I kept telling these people Just wait. Just wait. Because the kind of stuff you want to spot and the things you want to connect, there will be enough stuff that will come out in the trial. Because you, you could never fix a trial to that degree. It's kind of like with election fraud, you can do a lot, and there's a lot of that you can manage to, to do in these things. And they do. We're not. Jay's not saying. I'm not saying. Andrew. Jim Bob, none of us are saying that the government doesn't lie or that things aren't, you know, total psyops. We know they're psyops. We're the people who are always talking about these things. It's just that if you've been paying attention for a long time, you start to notice patterns in what they do, how they do it, why they do it, who is doing it, these sort of things. It's not just like, oh, every weird thing means that there's like interdimensional Jewish aliens underneath the ground in tunnels, shooting up from the ground, like, and come up with all these crazy things. And she was just throwing so much crazy stuff at the wall that it's. To me, it feels really heavily. It feels like my intuition, like I just have this gut feeling, right? My spidey sense is telling me no. It just seems like a very clear pattern of throw a bunch of. At the wall, drum up a ton of interest, get the low iq, people who really can't discern or understand what it is that they're seeing, and whip them up into a frenzy. And then when real fuckery comes out in the trial, like, let's say the trial starts and we do see some stuff that is concerning and is problematic or does implicate certain organizations or government people or who knows what, or, you know, that this kid's getting radicalized in a discord or that there's people pushing him to do it. If any of that comes out, the mainstream normies are going to discount it. They're going to look the other way and they're going to say, oh, you're just like the crazy people that believed in the Candace stuff. So it concerns me. They're like, why do you hate Candace? You're just jealous of her.

[A]

No, I mean, that's what they're doing in the chat right now. The people in the chat are like, literally just. Jay Dyer is just an awful piece of person. And that's like, that's all they have is to say that, you know, I'm just, I'm the, okay, fine, I'm a piece of person. So how does that make Candace's arguments correct? Right.

[F]

That's, that's exactly what I've been saying. Even if you think I'm terrible, the concern I have is not, oh, she's getting more views than me, she's getting more attention than me. I'm no threat to Candace Owens. I'm like, nobody. There's, I don't compare myself to her. I'm not like, that should be me up there. It's just that if there is stuff going on with this, if there was any type of conspiracy, if there was any sort of, you know, crazy stuff going on with the Kirk assassination people, it's just like what happened with 9 11. It's just like what happened with JFK. Whenever you have these big high profile events, they love pushing the crazy people to the front.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

And, and getting the disinfo stuff out there so that if there is a plausible conspiracy theory of something that actually happened.

[A]

Yeah. Then people have already been.

[F]

People will just reject it and say, no, you're like the crazy Candace people.

[A]

Yeah. That's what, that's what PR people and fixers do is that they will preemptively put out a bunch of crap. There's actually a movie that covers this. There's a movie with Jessica Chastain that's worth watching about this because she works at a PR firm and she basically steers scandal stories for politicians. So when there's a scandal coming out, what you can do is if you know it's going to come out, you preemptively put out a bunch of crazy crap so that when the scandal comes out, it gets grouped in with the crazy stuff. Right. So that's also a possibility. That can be. Yeah. That Rachel's highlighting here. But yeah, I'm really eager to see though what, what Y2K has to do with it. But. Father Deacon, did you want to have any comment? I know you're, you're in the chat too. And Rachel, if you want to keep talking, feel free, but fda, I wanted to get your take if you had anything on the notion of pre last here because you usually have good insights on that and we have a pretty large audience tonight. We've got almost 2, 000 live. So could you speak a little bit if you're available to kind of what pre list is and why it's a danger, especially in sort of pro charismatic groups. Are you, are you able to. Or maybe you're not able. We'll see if he's able to. But. Rachel, did you have any other comments or points you want to make?

[F]

No, I think that was mostly it. I was just saying. Yeah, I was in all these gifted and talented programs, too, but I never got the idea that, like, everything revolves around that. That is the one thing I was leaning more towards. She's either dumb or she is being pushed to the front and put at the top of the podcast and everything to disseminate a bunch of disinfo. To cover up whatever might have happened. But there is a case to be made, as you've been pointing out today, that, like, the fact that she thinks everything is, like, it's almost like a weird. And this is why it's so popular, because women listen to this stuff and they just gobble it up. Charlie and I had such a special relationship.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

She won't say it was romantic, but she implies, like, it could have been, like, we were special. We had this special bond, special connection from childhood. We were both different and exceptional and. And I feel like, you know, there's something out to get us and, like, all this kind of stuff. And it's like, no, like, I was in smart kid class, so I went to cosmetology school. Like, I have a cosmetology license. I'm not special. The government isn't following me. No one's concerned that Rachel's gonna, like, I have moved the needle somewhat with some of my work on feminism, which is cool, but I don't think that that means government agents are coming after me to, like. Like, monitor me or check on what I'm doing and make sure that I don't, you know, ruin their plans or something.

[A]

So you're saying you're Jane Gray. You're basically saying, no, no, no, no. So you just expose yourself because you're saying basically that you're Jane Gray from X Men. That's what you're saying. Literally.

[F]

Yeah, basically, my psychic mind meld powers, Andrew and I, actually, that's. That's what the Crucible really means. If you look at the symbolism really closely, the fact that the logo is red and the shape of the letter Tick Tock. Invasions. You know what I mean? Invasions. Like we're invading your mind using our psychic mind meld powers. That's. That's why there's all this controversy as to, you know, there's all these theories, like, Rachel and Andrew aren't really married or they pretend to be married. There's, like, all these crazy conspiracy theories about us. It's because we're using Our psychic mind meld powers through the Crucible to control people.

[A]

So you're Dark Phoenix. And what, let's see, does that make Andrew? Is he Professor X? Is he the mastermind? Or is. Is Andrew? Well, Andrew's not in a wheelchair, so Andrew would have to be.

[F]

That's why he's smoking all the time.

[A]

Okay. I'm trying to think of who smokes because there's special.

[F]

A special plutonium based stuff in the cigarettes that makes his mind power stronger. It's the secret to how he's so convincing.

[A]

He could be ties.

[F]

Is everybody with the cigarette smoke?

[A]

Okay, does Andrew play cards?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Yes. He's Cyclops. Doesn't. No. Wait, who throws the cards? There's one of the X Men that throws the playing cards trying to figure out which. Which one? That one is Gambit.

[B]

I don't know.

[F]

I don't watch any of the Marvel movies, so I don't know very well. But there is another conspiracy out there that I'm CIA and I'm actually the person who runs everything behind the scenes. I wear the pants.

[A]

Oh, you're Gizlaine. You're Gizlaine. You're Ghislaine. And he is Jeff Stein. McGuffrey.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. You're running it. Yep, yep.

[F]

Meanwhile, I'm just making like a burrito casserole in the kitchen.

[A]

Yeah, it's Gambit that is the. Yeah, he throws the playing cards.

[B]

So.

[A]

So that's who. That's who Andrew is for sure. Fda. Would you want to comment on pre. Less for this for today's large audience? I don't know. I. I didn't get asked. I didn't get asked to gate school. I was told I was. So I don't know about how much I can add to this conversation. No, I asked you to talk about the pre. Less stuff. We know, we know you weren't in the gay program. I thought you wanted me to talk about retardedness. No, we do not.

[C]

No.

[A]

Like, like, like Jake said you were in the gay program. I was in the gifted program growing up. Well, remember the last time we spoke, we were talking a bit about two of my friends who had schizoid affective disorder. Right. And the one thing that you notice is that just similar things that are going on with Candace. So she's special. She has cracked the code, the secret information. And then also one thing that's really interesting too, that I brought up with you previously, is that somebody with a schizoid affective disorder or some sort of mental.