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Podcast Summary: Joel Osteen Podcast – Believing Without A Sign

Episode Title: Believing Without A Sign
Host: Joel Osteen, SiriusXM
Release Date: December 22, 2024

Introduction: Embracing Unseen Faith

In this motivational episode, Joel Osteen delves into the profound concept of believing without a sign. He encourages listeners to maintain their faith even when tangible evidence of their dreams and prayers seems absent. Osteen underscores the idea that true faith transcends what is visible, aligning with the biblical principle that "faith is the evidence of things not seen."

The Challenge of Maintaining Faith

Osteen acknowledges that life’s struggles—whether they pertain to health, finances, or personal relationships—often leave individuals yearning for visible signs of divine intervention. He states:

“If you can see it, it doesn't take any faith. If you have the evidence, it's easy to stay encouraged.”
[05:45]

This sentiment resonates with many who face prolonged periods of hardship, where the absence of immediate results can lead to discouragement and wavering belief.

Biblical Examples: Hezekiah and Elijah

To illustrate his message, Osteen references two pivotal biblical figures: King Hezekiah and the prophet Elijah.

King Hezekiah’s Trial

Hezekiah’s story is a testament to enduring faith amidst dire circumstances. When faced with a life-threatening illness, Hezekiah sought a sign from God to confirm his healing. Initially granted a reversal of his condition, doubts soon crept in as immediate evidence of recovery was not apparent. Osteen recounts:

“Hezekiah said, 'What sign will the Lord give me to prove that I'm going to get well?'"
[15:20]

Despite the initial promise, Hezekiah’s request for a concrete sign highlighted a common human tendency to seek proof before sustaining faith.

Elijah’s Unwavering Belief

In contrast, Elijah exemplifies unwavering faith without reliance on signs. During a severe drought, Elijah confidently proclaimed the forthcoming rain despite the clear skies and persistent drought conditions. Osteen emphasizes Elijah’s steadfastness:

“Elijah didn’t get depressed. He kept thanking God that rain was coming. He didn’t let the lack of evidence convince him that it wasn’t going to happen.”
[25:50]

Elijah’s perseverance despite repeated reports of no impending rain serves as a powerful model for believers to hold onto their faith irrespective of present circumstances.

Personal Testimony: Overcoming Legal Obstacles

Osteen shares a personal experience to further illustrate the power of believing without a sign. After acquiring a new facility—the former Compact Center—a significant legal battle ensued, threatening to derail the project for years. Despite months of stagnant progress and mounting frustrations, Osteen remained steadfast in his faith:

“I just kept thanking God because I'm not moved by what I don't see. I'm not looking for evidence. I know when it's your time.”
[22:10]

His unwavering belief culminated in a breakthrough two years later when the opposing party unexpectedly sought negotiations, leading to a favorable resolution. This experience underscores the reward of persistent faith even when immediate signs are absent.

The Power of Historical Faith: Lakewood Church’s Growth

Reflecting on his father’s legacy, Joel Osteen recounts the early days of Lakewood Church. Founded in 1959 with humble beginnings, the church faced years of limited growth despite the dream of becoming a large, influential congregation. Joel emphasizes:

“They just kept being faithful, preaching to those 90 people, thanking God that what he heard in his spirit was on the way.”
[28:15]

Thirteen years later, through continued faith and perseverance, Lakewood blossomed into one of the largest churches, illustrating the long-term rewards of believing without immediate signs.

Encouragement to Listeners: Sustaining Faith

Osteen fervently encourages listeners to adopt Elijah’s mindset over Hezekiah’s. He motivates them to:

Trust in Past Victories: Reflect on previous instances where God has been faithful.
Resist External Doubts: Ignore naysayers and remain committed to personal faith.
Maintain Positive Outlooks: Continually affirm belief in God’s promises despite current lack of evidence.

He reinforces the idea with a powerful affirmation:

“I don’t see any sign of what I’m believing for. But that’s okay. I don’t need a sign.”
[27:30]

Conclusion: The Promise of Breakthrough

Joel Osteen concludes the episode with a message of hope, assuring listeners that their persistent faith without signs is recognized and rewarded by God. He envisions a future where their steadfast belief culminates in miraculous breakthroughs:

“You are closer than you think. Your seventh time is coming. It’s going to happen suddenly, unexpectedly.”
[29:55]

Osteen invites listeners to embrace this unwavering faith, promising that their dedication will lead to fulfillment beyond their imagination.

Final Thoughts

In "Believing Without A Sign," Joel Osteen delivers a compelling message about the strength and necessity of faith that does not rely on visible proof. Through biblical narratives, personal anecdotes, and heartfelt encouragement, he inspires listeners to maintain their belief in God’s promises, even in the absence of immediate signs. This episode serves as a reminder that true faith can withstand any trial, leading to profound personal and spiritual growth.

Notable Quotes:

Joel Osteen: “If you can see it, it doesn't take any faith. If you have the evidence, it's easy to stay encouraged.”
[05:45]
King Hezekiah: “What sign will the Lord give me to prove that I'm going to get well?"
[15:20]
Joel Osteen: “Elijah didn’t get depressed. He kept thanking God that rain was coming. He didn’t let the lack of evidence convince him that it wasn’t going to happen.”
[25:50]
Joel Osteen: “I just kept thanking God because I'm not moved by what I don't see. I'm not looking for evidence. I know when it's your time.”
[22:10]
Joel Osteen: “I don’t see any sign of what I’m believing for. But that’s okay. I don’t need a sign.”
[27:30]
Joel Osteen: “You are closer than you think. Your seventh time is coming. It’s going to happen suddenly, unexpectedly.”
[29:55]

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Hi, this is Joel in Victoria. Thanks so much for listening to the podcast and thanks for supporting the ministry. We believe you're going to have an awesome 2024 healthy, productive and favor filled. God bless you today and enjoy the message. God bless you. It's great to be with you today and I hope you'll stay connected with us during the week through our Daily podcast, our YouTube channel. Social media. We'll keep you encouraged and inspired, but I'd like to start with something funny. I heard about this pastor. He was raising funds for a new auditorium. He said to the congregation, anyone who will give $1,000 can pick out the next three hymns. Little old lady in the back stood up, said, pastor, I'll do it. He was so excited. He said, thank you so much. Now which three hymns would you like? She looked over the congregation, said I'll take him and him and him. Say it like you mean it. This is my B. I am what it says I am. I have what it says I have. I can do what it says I can do. Today I will be taught the word of God. I boldly confess. My mind is alert, my heart is receptive. I will never be the same. In Jesus name. God bless you. I want to talk to you today about believing without a sign. We all have dreams and goals, promises we're standing on. And when we see God's favor, doors opening, our health improving, the right people showing up, it's easy to believe. We know God's at work. But sometimes we're doing our best, praying, believing. But nothing's happening. The medical report is not getting better. Doors are not opening. Our finances are not improving. There's no sign that it's going to happen. It's easy to get discouraged and give up on what we're believing for. But the scripture says faith is the evidence of things not seen. If you can see it, it doesn't take any faith. If you have the evidence, it's easy to stay encouraged. But to reach your destiny, there will be these times where there is no evidence. Every circumstance says, you'll never get well, never meet the right person. You'll never accomplish that dream. You're no better off now than you were a year ago. We think God, if you just give me a sign, if you just let me know that you're working, if I just see something improving, this is when you have to dig down deep and say, I don't have to have the evidence. I'm not moved by what I see. I'm moved by what I know. And God, I know you are faithful to what you promised. Just because you don't see a sign doesn't mean God is not working. Don't believe those lies, that nothing is happening in the unseen realm. God is arranging things in your favor, lining up the healing, the right people, the promotion, the fact that you can't see anything happening, that's God showing you that he trusts you. You don't have to see everything to keep moving forward. You've matured to the point where, where you walk by faith and not by sight. Where God is taking you. The amazing future he has planned is going to require you to believe without a sign, to trust him when there's no evidence. If you have to see everything to stay encouraged, see it, to keep believing, it will limit how high you can go. You have to pass this test of staying in faith when nothing is improving, thanking God when all the circumstances say it's never going to change. You may be there now. You've been praying and believing, but it doesn't seem like it's doing any good. You don't see any evidence. Kind of feels like God's on vacation. He doesn't even hear your prayers. That silence doesn't mean God has forgotten about you. He sees your faithfulness. He sees you doing the right thing when it's hard. When you could have given up, you went the extra mile and kept believing. When you felt like complaining, you kept praising. When every thought said it was never going to happen, you kept thanking God that he was working. Let me encourage you. Your time is coming. What God promised you is on the way. Don't get talked out of it. Don't let people delays, doubt convince you to give up. Your breakthrough is already on the schedule. Your miracle has already been set in motion. Seems like nothing is happening, but suddenly it's going to change. Suddenly the dream comes to pass. Suddenly the right person shows up. Jesus told Thomas, because you've seen me, you have believed. But blessed are those who have not seen yet. Believe. You haven't seen it, but you keep believing. God says there's a blessing coming because you believe without the evidence. Believe without the sign. Favor is coming, Healing is coming. Victory is coming. Now don't be a Thomas, God, show me a sign, then I'll believe. Let my circumstances improve, then I'll stay in faith. Open this door, God. Then I'll know you're working. God is looking for people who believe without a sign, who are not moved by what they don't see, who don't need the evidence to prove to them that God is working. Second kings, chapter 20. King Hezekiah became very sick. He was close to death when the prophet Isaiah showed up at the palace. I'm sure he was hoping for good news. Maybe Isaiah will come, prophesy that things are about to turn around, that I'm about to get well. But it wasn't what he was thinking. Isaiah said, king Hezekiah, I have a word from the Lord for you. God says, set your house in order, for you will surely die. He didn't say, maybe you'll pass. There's a chance you're not going to make it. It's not looking good, King. He said there was no doubt. This is the end. You will not recover from this illness. Hezekiah could have been depressed, given up on life. But he began to pray. He reminded God of all the good he had done, how he'd torn down the pagan shrines and removed all the idols. He poured out his heart and asked God in his mercy to spare his life. Before Isaiah left the palace grounds, God changed his mind and Told Isaiah to go back and give him this new report. Isaiah said, hezekiah, the Lord says he has heard your prayers and he's going to heal you. In three days, you will get out of this bed and he will add 15 more years to your life. You can imagine how excited and how overwhelmed Hezekiah was. He just received this amazing promise that this death sentence had been reversed. But Hezekiah was kind of like us. After the excitement wore off, he started thinking, how do I know I'm going to get well? I don't look any different. I don't feel any better. Nothing has changed. Doubt started to come. Is it really going to happen? Are you sure that's what God said. Hezekiah said to Isaiah, what sign will the Lord give me to prove that I'm going to get well? He was saying, isaiah, I appreciate what you've told me. That's encouraging, but I need some evidence. I need to see something so I'll believe. I need God to prove that he's going to do it. Isaiah said, all right. God will give you a sign. Do you want the shadow on the sundial to go 10 degrees forward or 10 degrees backwards? Hezekiah said, backwards. They watched as the shadow defied the odds and went backwards. And God is merciful. He'll give you a sign sometimes. But here's my point. If you live by this approach, God proved that you're going to do what you said. God, I need some evidence. If I don't see something, then I'm not going to believe. If you're always dependent on a sign, you won't reach the fullness of your destiny. Maybe, like Hezekiah, you're praying for a sign, but you're not seeing anything. The sundial is not going backwards. The right attitude is God, I don't have to have a sign. You don't have to prove to me that you're going to do it. You've already proved to me who you are. You've already made ways where I didn't see a way. You've already opened doors that I couldn't open. You've already defeated giants that were much bigger. You've already broken chains I could never break God. I trust you with no evidence. I'm not a Thomas. I don't have to see it to believe it. I'm not a Hezekiah. You don't have to prove to me that you're faithful. You've already shown yourself faithful. And yes, it's great when you get a sign, but don't rely on a sign, don't become dependent on seeing. Then you'll believe. That doesn't take much faith. Your faith kicks in when there's no evidence. Instead of asking God to prove to you what he's going to do, why don't you turn it around and prove to God who you are? Prove to him that you're not going to be moved by what you don't see. Prove that you're not going to give up because things aren't changing. Prove that you're going to stand in faith when every circumstance says it's never going to happen. What's interesting is right before Hezekiah got sick, he had just seen the greatest victory of his life. The Assyrian army was coming against him. And the people of Judah, they were much bigger. They had more resources. The night before the Assyrians were going to attack, the angel of the Lord went into their camp and killed 185,000 of their soldiers. The others took off running. Hezekiah and the people of Judah were spared. You would think that Hezekiah wouldn't need a sign. He just saw a supernatural victory. He just saw God show out. But how many times do we forget what God has done? Like Hezekiah? God has shown up and turned things around for us. He's healed us, protected us, freed us, promoted us. If you need a sign, look back at the goodness of God in your life. Look back at how he brought you through the pandemic, how he gave you strength when you didn't think you could go on. How he promoted you when you weren't next in line. How he turned your child around. How he brought someone great into your life to love. How that one good break caused your business to take off. When you need evidence, look back at the faithfulness of God. This is what Elijah did. There was a great famine in the land. For three and a half years it had not rained. No water, no crops. People were barely surviving. When nothing looked any different in the middle of the drought, Elijah showed up and said, I hear the sound of the abundance of rain. He was so bold, he went and told King Ahab this drought is coming to an end. Rain is on the way. When he said that there wasn't a cloud in the sky, no rain. God will put things in your spirit that contradict what you see. He heard an abundance of rain. He saw barren ground, dried up crops, drought, famine. The key is, don't let what you see override what you've heard. If you're always looking for a sign, you're going to get discouraged. I heard rain, but I see drought. I heard healing, but I see sickness. I heard abundance, but I see lack. Joel. I heard freedom, but all I see is dysfunction, addictions, depression. When I see something different, then I'll believe. When I have some evidence, then I'll get my hopes up. No, don't be a Hezekiah. Be an Elijah. You don't have to have a sign. God doesn't have to prove to you that he's going to do what he's promised. You've seen his faithfulness. You have a history with him. He's made things happen all through your life that you could have never made happen. Now do your part and believe without a sign. Stay in faith when there's no evidence. Don't let what you see talk you out of what you've heard. It's very powerful when you can say, I don't see any sign of what I'm believing for. But that's okay. I don't need a sign. I know God's on the throne. I know he's in control. I know what he started, he will finish. Elijah went on top of Mount Carmel to pray. He bowed down and began to thank God that rain was coming, that what he heard in his spirit was on the way. He asked his assistant to go out and look on the other side of the mountain, see if there was any sign of rain. Now, he wasn't dependent on a sign. He was looking for God's goodness. He was expecting rain. That's different than, I'm not going to believe unless I have a sign. His attitude was, I know God's at work. It could happen anytime. I know rain is coming. He had this confidence, this unshakable faith. The assistant came back, said, sorry, Elijah, there are no clouds in the sky. It's as clear as can be. Checks the latest radar. Super Doppler. Nothing in sight. Elijah didn't get depressed. God, I must have heard you wrong. He kept thanking God that rain was coming. He didn't let the lack of evidence convince him that it wasn't going to happen. He kept looking for the rain. He kept talking like it was going to happen. I can hear King Ahab kind of laughing, saying, elijah, where's that rain you were talking about? Thought you said there's going to be an abundance. I haven't felt one little drop. Elijah said, ahab, I'm not worried. I don't need a sign to believe. I'm not dependent on the evidence. I know what God has spoken to me. Elijah sent the assistant out again. Asked him to look, see if he saw any sign of rain. He came back again and again and again with the same report. Not a cloud in the sky, perfectly clear. Six times no sign. Six times nothing had changed. Six times this negative report. It's not going to happen, Elijah. Just accept it. No rain is coming. You may be where Elijah was. You know what God has promised you? Health, freedom, abundance. A spouse, a child. But you've been looking, standing in faith, thanking God. But there's no evidence. Nothing is improving. No good breaks. You still can't conceive. This is when you have to dig down deep and say, God, I'm not moved by what I don't see. I know you're a faithful God. I'm going to keep looking, keep expecting, keep praising, keep declaring. Keep thinking. That is on the way. Don't let the clear sky fool you. God can change things. Suddenly he controls the universe. One touch of his favor and you'll see the abundance of rain. You're not seeing any sign of it. That's a test. What are you made of? Are you going to give up? Get discouraged, settle for mediocrity? Or are you going to do like Elijah and keep believing despite what you're seeing? On the seventh time, the assistant came back and said, elijah, this time I saw a small cloud, about the size of a man's hand. Wasn't long after that that the heavens opened up. There was a huge downpour. The three and a half year drought suddenly came to an end. Like Elijah, many of you have been faithful. You believed when every circumstance said it wasn't going to happen. You didn't listen to the naysayers. You didn't get talked out of it. You've been looking for God's goodness. I believe you're about to come in to your seventh time. You're about to see the open windows of heaven. Something better than you've imagined. More rewarding, more fulfilling. The scripture says there was a remarkable rainstorm. God is going to do something remarkable in your life, out of the ordinary that will exceed your expectations. It's significant that Elijah's assistant, someone close to him, kept bringing him the news that it's not going to happen. There are no clouds. He didn't mean to be negative. He was just reporting the facts. But sometimes the people closest to you will try to talk you out of what God put in your heart. They may mean well, but they didn't hear what God spoke to you. They'll keep telling you what they saw. You can't let that drown out what you've heard. Don't let their negative comments, their doubt. You still think you're going to get well? Man, it's been a long battle. You really believe your child's going to get on course? He's doing worse than ever. You think you're going to have a bountiful year? I don't see it, man. The economy, the gas prices, inflation, the pandemic, they're looking at it in the natural. But we serve a supernatural God. There will be seasons like Elijah that you're looking, expecting, believing. But again and again there's no sign, no improvement. What if on the fourth time, Elijah would have said to the assistant, I guess you're right, it's not going to rain? Or on the fifth time, he got discouraged. God, I know what I heard. Surely it would have happened by now. At least I would see some clouds, some wind, a sign that things were about to change. Maybe that's where you are on your fourth time, no evidence. Your fifth time, still no sign. Your sixth time, sky's still blue. Don't give up now. Those are tests. Yes. It'd be much easier if, like Hezekiah, we always got a sign. But we'd never grow. We wouldn't reach our potential. Where God is taking you is going to take unshakable faith. Not move by what you see. Not discouraged because of a lack of evidence. I know today I'm not looking at Thomases. Lord, show me and I'll believe. I'm not looking at Hezekiah's. God, give me a sign and I'll trust you. I'm looking at Elijah's. God, we believe. Without a sign, we keep looking for rain even though the skies are clear. We don't let people time delays what's not happening Talk us out of what we've heard in our spirit. I'm looking at people that are headed for an abundance of rain, an abundance of joy, an abundance of favor, an abundance of resources for something remarkable uncommon that will take your family to a new level. Right after we acquired this facility, the former Compact Center, a company filed a lawsuit to try to keep us from moving in. They were a huge real estate company that owns all the property around the building. And we'd just come off this great victory only to find out that it was now tied up in the courts and we couldn't move forward. Our attorneys told us it could take up to 10 years to settle. They had met with the other side, but they were in no hurry. To do something. In fact, the more they delayed, the more at a disadvantage we were. Our main attorney called and said, joel, they're playing hardball. They don't want to talk, they don't want to negotiate. They're stubborn. A month went by, nothing happened. Two months, nothing. Three months, four months, five months. Like Elijah, not a cloud in the sky. No evidence that it was ever going to work out. I had to do what I'm asking you to do. I just kept thanking God for Father, I'm not moved by what I don't see. I don't need a sign. I'm not looking for evidence. I know when it's your time. All the forces of darkness cannot stop what you have ordained for us. Doubt would try to come. Negative thoughts. People tried to talk us out of it. Our main attorney asked me, what if I got them to give you enough funds to build a facility like this somewhere else? I told him, we don't want somewhere else. This building is a landmark in Houston. Two million Houstonians had come to this building every year for 30 years. Don't let a lack of evidence cause you to water down your dreams. Don't settle for mediocrity. What God has for you is going to take resilience, determination, perseverance. You have to have a made up mind. You can't be talked out of it. You can't be moved by what you see. What you see may contradict what God put in your heart. You may not see anything improving. I didn't see the other side letting up. I didn't see any sign of progress like Elijah. We heard no three times, four times, five times, no evidence, no budging, no movement. But if you'll stay in faith, you're going to come into your seventh time where things suddenly change. Suddenly the door opens. Suddenly people are moved out of the way. Suddenly your health begins to turn around. One day, unexpectedly, almost two years later, our attorneys said that the other side had called and they wanted to meet. He said, joel, don't get your hopes up. This is probably just a ploy to distract us. He didn't realize my hopes had already been up. For two years I'd been thanking God, looking for his goodness, expecting his favor. When we met the CEO of the company, the first thing he said was, joel, I watch you on television every week and my son in law is a youth pastor. God knows how to bring the right people at the right time. 24 hours later, he had agreed to let us have the building and to lease us 9,000 covered parking spaces so we didn't have to build a garage. You may not see any sign of what you're believing for. You could get discouraged. Let the lack of evidence talk you out of it. No, stay in faith. God is working behind the scenes. Who knows, you may be on your fourth time, your fifth time. This is not the time to give up. You are closer than you think. Your seventh time is coming. It's going to happen suddenly. It's going to be supernatural, something that you couldn't make happen. The truth is that CEO could have shown up two years earlier. He could have come three months in. I wouldn't have had to pray and believe and trust. But these times that we have to wait, believe, not be moved by what we don't see that's preparing us for the new levels God has in store. Don't get discouraged because it's not happening on your timetable. Everything is serving God's plan. When you're waiting, staying in faith, believing. When there's no sign, you're growing, you're showing God what you're made of. Instead of God proving to you who he is, you're proving to him who you are. Anybody can get discouraged. Anybody can be a Thomas. I'm not going to believe unless I see it. But God is looking for Elijah's. People that aren't moved by the lack of evidence. People that don't water down their dreams. People that believe without a sign. 17 years old. God put a dream in my father's heart that one day he would pastor a church with thousands of people. He was raised very poor, but he got off the farm. And in 1959, he and my mother started Lakewood on Mother's Day with 90 people. He eventually named the church Lakewood International Outreach Center. The fact is, it was a small neighborhood church, but he called it an international outreach. That dream was still alive. But for 13 years, Lakewood didn't really grow, had less than 200 people. My father knew what God had spoken to him. A church with thousands. There was no evidence he could have gotten discouraged. God, show me a sign. Let me know that it's going to happen. But year after year, my father, my mother, they just kept being faithful. Preaching to those 90 people, thanking God that what he heard in his spirit was on the way. Be so much easier if we saw a good break or little growth there. The right person show up. But sometimes God will withhold the evidence he's seeing. What we're going to do. Are we going to be a Thomas God, I'll believe. I'LL give you my best if you show me a sign. God is giving you an opportunity to grow, to trust him in a greater way, to prove to him that you will walk by faith and not by sight so he can entrust you with more. 1972. It was like God opened up a faucet. People started coming to Lakewood from all over the city. Lakewood grew from a couple hundred to a church of many thousands. He saw what God put in his spirit. But God could have done that the first year or the second year. But we have to pass these tests. We all go through silent seasons where we're believing, praying, but nothing is changing. You don't see any sign of what God promised is going to happen. You'll be tempted to walk away from a dream, to give up on a child, a spouse, a breakthrough God. If you'll just do what you did for Hezekiah, prove that you're going to do it. Then I'll start believing again. But most of the time it's going to be like Elijah. No sign, people saying it's not going to happen. Your thought's telling you it's never going to rain. Do like he did. Don't be moved by what you see. The skies may be clear right now, but your seventh time is coming. God sees your faithfulness. He sees you believing when there's no evidence you are closer than you think. The clouds are starting to form right now and I believe and declare your abundance of rain is on the way. What you're believing for is going to happen suddenly, unexpectedly. Healing favor, breakthroughs, the fullness of your destiny in Jesus name. And if you receive it, can you say Amen? I'd like to give you an opportunity to make Jesus the Lord of your life. Would you pray with me? Just say Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins. Come into my heart. I make you my Lord and Savior. If you prayed that simple prayer, we believe you got born again. 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