In this episode Val is joined by Jana Riess, author and researcher of the LDS spectrum of experience and Jason Bergman, former BYU professor & faculty member. Together they discuss the many facets of the Clark Gilbert call to the Q12 of the LDS church.

In this conversation Jason contrasts his experience on the BYU faculty both before and during Gilbert's leadership and candidly shares the painful and life altering impact Gilbert's fervor for loyalty and conformity of LDS orthodoxy had on him and his career.

They also explore the possibility that well-intended loyalty to tradition can actually fracture lives, families, and even the potential good that churches can do in the long run--especially when loyalty to old ways end up getting in the way of further light and truth hiding in plain sight.

Join them for another bold, courageous, and candid conversation inviting spiritual growth in and around the LDS church.

Jana's Salt Lake Tribune Article

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome and Guests

00:36 Why This Topic Matters

01:55 Jana Riess Research

03:42 Jason BYU Background

07:20 Mixed Reactions Online

12:11 Why Gilbert Stands Out

17:27 Culture Warrior Defined

27:12 Polarization and Autonomy

35:53 BYU Orthodoxy Crackdown