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Learn more@schwab.com you're listening to Life Kit from NPR. Hey, it's Marielle. When Margaret Lee was a kid, she watched her mom doing something that was a little unusual.
Margaret Lee
She used to like to save takeout sauces from every restaurant. So she would have ketchup from one restaurant, barbecue sauce from another restaurant, maybe some kind of soy sauce or duck sauce from a Chinese restaurant.
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After she collected a bunch of them, she would mix them all together and
Margaret Lee
then she would use it to make a a sauce for barbecue chicken, almost always barbecued chicken. And honestly, it was usually really good.
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Years later, when Margaret and her sister wrote a cookbook called Perfectly Good Food, they dedicated it to their mom and the way she would rescue takeout sauces. Because this was a formative lesson for Margaret, it showed her that you don't always need a recipe to make something delicious. And you can find creative ways to use up just about any ingredient in your kitchen.
Margaret Lee
You can, you have these great intentions to cook and eat the things that you're spending your money on. And especially as food costs go up, that's so frustrating. And to use it and make sure that you eat it feels very satisfying.
Marielle Segarra
The latest estimate from a nonprofit called Refed is that a quarter of all food products in the US get dumped. And the residential food sector accounts for a big part of that. Which means if you spend $200 a week on groceries and takeout, you might be throwing away the equivalent of $50 of food. But also once you get the hang of how to use more of your food, it makes the daily chore of feeding yourself easier.
Margaret Lee
Food waste, in some ways is this trendy new idea, but for many thousands of years, that was just cooking. You just used up what you had.
Marielle Segarra
On this episode of Life Kit, reporter Emily Siner is going to talk about how to make creative meals out of leftovers, out of odds and ends. And anything else you usually end up throwing away might shift your perspective.
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Emily Siner
It's a typical Tuesday night in my kitchen. I open the fridge before dinner and ugh, they're the remains of yesterday's takeout. A half eaten rotisserie chicken still on the bone, a couple of raw vegetables, and I usually end up saying something
Margaret Lee
like, oh, there's nothing in the fridge. I don't know what to make.
Emily Siner
But cookbook author and chef Margaret Lee has a different outlook on my sad Tuesday night fridge. To her, these odds and ends from previous meals aren't the roadblock to dinner. They are dinner.
Margaret Lee
Okay, well, the bone will add flavor to a broth or a stew, and all these vegetables will work. So, you know, maybe the potatoes go in first and then the fresh leafy greens go in last, and then these vegetables are left over from another meal, so they're already cooked. So I'll pop them in sometime in the middle.
Emily Siner
In other words, think of the end of one meal as the beginning of the next. That's takeaway one.
Tamar Adler
I don't think there's almost anything in my kitchen that isn't made out of something else.
Emily Siner
Food writer and chef Tamar Adler is the author of the Everlasting Meal, which is basically a love letter to the style of cooking. The day I talked to her, she was putting together a salad for her lunch. She looked in her Fridge found like
Tamar Adler
a half eaten burrata arugula salad.
Emily Siner
Burrata is a soft cheese and it had kind of melded into the arugula and tomatoes. I might have tossed it right then and there. But Tamar saw potential.
Tamar Adler
I kind of picked the arugula off of the burrata and then added lemon juice and olive oil to it and mixed it really hard so it became like a creamy dressing. And it was so good. And I might, I might remake a burrata dressing and it won't be as good because something about it, sitting all night with the little bits and pieces made it better.
Emily Siner
These byproducts of yesterday's meal are the foundation for today's. Maybe you have some leftover rice lying around. Tamar says that is the perfect start for tonight's dinner.
Tamar Adler
I will fry anything with rice into fried rice. I will, you know, saute some aromatics, so maybe some ginger, garlic, onion, and then whatever other leftover bit there is. So maybe there's like a little bit of beans left.
Emily Siner
And just because the meal is built from leftovers doesn't mean she treats it like a second class dish. No, she's trying to give these ingredients new life in their new form and
Tamar Adler
sort of just take the approach of making it more flavorful and crispy and then spicy and then usually adding like a squeeze of lemon.
Emily Siner
It's all about building up your arsenal of Go to recipes that are flexible enough to use up just about anything. Margaret calls them hero recipes.
Margaret Lee
For example, my house eats a lot of bread. My children love bread. I bake bread. We always have bread ends around.
Emily Siner
So one of Margaret's hero recipes is an Anything Goes savory bread pudding. You throw all that leftover bread into a freezer bag and when it's full,
Margaret Lee
you soak your bread in milk or cream and you add in eggs. And I like to add in all the different cheese bits that I can find from foraging my fridge. And then it can take just about any other meat or vegetable that you can think of. Generally, I just saute them with maybe onions and olive oil and make sure everything's well seasoned. And then you pile it all into a casserole dish and you bake it
Emily Siner
for about an hour and then.
Margaret Lee
And it is so delicious.
Emily Siner
These hero recipes do rely on some advanced planning. You need to make sure you're stocked up on staples. Aromatics like onion and garlic are essential to building flavor. Margaret always has puff pastry in her freezer, which she uses to repurpose leftovers into a savory galette. And she always has shelf stable essentials like rice and pasta in her cupboard.
Margaret Lee
Well, I've got chicken thighs, and I've got canned tomatoes, and I've got pasta. So all of a sudden you have this, you know, roast chicken and tomato pasta, and then you've tossed in some fresh greens and some alliums and aromatics, and then you have this really flavorful meal that you just kind of forged from what you have.
Emily Siner
Another essential ingredient to have on hand is eggs.
Tamar Adler
Like, you could put anything in a frittata, and it'll be great. So just, like, thinking of it as, like, okay, well, if I don't know what to do, I will. Frittatas or.
Emily Siner
Tamar says the even easier version of this is just to cook an egg and put it on top. It has the effect of making almost everything feel heartier and fancier. Whatever you make with the staples, you can set yourself up for success by making sure you cook enough to produce leftovers.
Tamar Adler
I probably cook for, like, six to eight people every single time I go in the kitchen because I can't fry rice anything if there's nothing to fry rice.
Emily Siner
Tamar also recommends thinking about what you're going to do with all the leftovers before you put them away in your fridge. For example, she might chop up the ends of the parsley she used for dinner and put them on some leftover pasta and then put it in the fridge already combined. Now the next meal is halfway started. Or at the very least, she labels the leftovers with their intended use.
Tamar Adler
If I had a little bit of leftover blueberries, I wouldn't say leftover blueberries. I would say, like, muffins to be on Tuesday with grated cheese. I would say, like, for pasta this week, or, like, cheese rinds to turn into broth. I really liked doing that, assigning the destiny of the food and labeling it.
Emily Siner
This brings us to takeaway two, which is a very practical one. Labeling is your friend.
Margaret Lee
I always have some painter's tape and a good Sharpie in my kitchen, so you can label and date things.
Emily Siner
It's a method that chefs use in restaurants, Margaret says, but it's equally applicable in your home. And this becomes even more important when you store food in your freezer.
Margaret Lee
What is this brown container that I shoved to the back of the freezer six months ago? Like, is it. Is it soup? Is it cider? I have no idea. You always think you'll remember, but often you don't.
Emily Siner
Using the freezer is a whole art in itself. Margaret has her freezer bag for the ends of bread, as we talked about. She also has one for making chicken or vegetable stock that houses the carrot peels and the ends of onions and extra garlic cloves and chicken bones. And then there's the freezer bag for smoothies.
Margaret Lee
You know, this blueberry is too squishy. Mom, I can't eat this. I just stick into the freezer. This banana is too brown. I can't eat this. I stick into the freezer and then eventually I just put it all in a blender with some yogurt and some juice and I make a smoothie. And then the smoothie is delicious for all ages, even if it's made up of all the things that have been rejected in the past.
Emily Siner
Margaret also labels an entire section of her fridge for the odds and ends of ingredients. She calls it the eat me first box.
Margaret Lee
For example, you want a lemon for your your cocktail and you cut open a lemon and then you open your fridge and you realize you already had a lemon open. And I will often find like three more lemons in the back of my fridge. And the idea is I feel like
Emily Siner
you're looking in my fridge right now.
Margaret Lee
I'm staring at your fridge, finding your secrets.
Emily Siner
She assures me this is nothing to be ashamed of. But having an eat me first box or even an eat me first zone of your fridge can help. It makes it easy to see the half cut lemons and the open container of coconut milk and the apple that's getting a little wrinkly but still isn't quite ready to retire to the smoothie bag.
Margaret Lee
That's an organizational tool that I feel
Emily Siner
helps for everybody in Tamar's fridge. Her organizational tool is making sure everything is stored in her own containers. It becomes kind of a psychological trick.
Tamar Adler
Last night I served olives at this party and I had gotten them in like a plastic kind of clamshell thing from the olive lady. But I put them in a mason jar before I put them away.
Emily Siner
Tonight, she says she'll be more likely to reach for her own jar than a plastic container that screams leftovers. Coming up, I put our chefs to the test with the ingredients that have stumped me in the past.
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Emily Siner
I decide to put Tamar Adler and Margaret Lee to the test. I mean, it's not often I get to ask professional chefs for personalized food advice. So I bring a list of ingredients that I have personally thrown out many times because they've stumped me. One thing is tomato paste. So if I have a recipe with tomato paste, I buy it. I use like the 1 tablespoon and then the rest of it just sits there until it goes bad.
Tamar Adler
Yeah.
Emily Siner
What's like an easy thing to do with tomato paste?
Tamar Adler
There are a lot.
Emily Siner
And then, to no one's surprise, Tamar starts rattling off a list of options.
Tamar Adler
Every time you make a tomato sauce, use some, any kind of a marinade, like a rub on chicken or whatever, olivey dressing or an olive tapenade. Putting a little bit in there. Any minestrone would be very, very happy. Oh, a fresh pot of rice would be great. And it would all just end up like pinky and delicious. I mean, we've probably used it up, right? I think we. Yeah. Alternately, this is what I do more often. I just ignore it. When it says use tomato paste, I'm like, no, I'm just gonna use a tomato. Cause I can buy one tomato.
Emily Siner
In other words, you can use tomatoes in just about anything that calls for tomato paste and vice versa. And this is such an important cooking technique that it's takeaway.
Marielle Segarra
3.
Emily Siner
You can substitute similar ingredients for each
Tamar Adler
other, even without knowing a technique going, okay, what is this like that I would know what to do with.
Emily Siner
For example, in the case of Tamar's leftover burrata salad, she looked at the cheese and thought, this is a creamy dairy product. It's a similar consistency to a thick yogurt or sour cream. I could make a dressing with sour cream. So why don't I make it with the burrata? Another example, courtesy of Margaret, is coleslaw. It's usually made with carrots and cabbage. Carrots are a root vegetable. Cabbage is A hearty, leafy green.
Margaret Lee
Maybe instead you could swap it for collards and daikon radish or something. And that allows you to try something new. If you got something from a CSA box that you haven't used before, or something that's kind of hiding in the back of your crisper drawer and you didn't know what to do with it, then all of a sudden you have these opportunities to swap one thing out for another.
Emily Siner
You might end up with a dish that is totally different than what you expected, but equally delicious. One of the many ingredients that tends to hide in the back of my crisper drawer uneaten is lettuce, because as soon as it wilts, I find it unappetizing. And then I'm relieved when it turns brown enough to just throw away. And then I wonder why I bought it in the first place. So I bring this stumper to Margaret. Lettuces that are getting a little suspect. How do I know if it's good to eat? And what do I do with it if it's wilty?
Margaret Lee
We've evolved with the senses to help us make this decision. So, like smelling things, the smell test is actually really pretty solid.
Emily Siner
This applies to lots of food. If it smells bad, don't eat it. But otherwise, she says, I could pop the lettuce into a bowl of ice water, which plumps it back up. Alternatively, instead of trying to make it as crisp as possible for a fresh salad, I could just expand my idea of how it can be prepared.
Margaret Lee
You can sort of change the texture totally. So you could make a lettuce soup. You could make stir fried lettuce.
Emily Siner
This is takeaway four. When in doubt, change the texture. This could look like cooking things that you might normally eat raw, like lettuce or cucumbers. It could look like pureeing wrinkly veggies into a soup, or it could look like grinding down the stems of parsley or basil. They still have that same herby taste, but the texture might be off putting. So Tamar turns them into an herb oil.
Tamar Adler
I'm going to chop these herbs up or just stick them in the blender with a clove of garlic and blend them up and add olive oil. And then it's going to be my base sauce for everything.
Emily Siner
I tried this at home and I can attest a pesto made with the stems tastes exactly the same as a pesto made with the leaves. And it saved me from having to buy twice as many herbs as I need.
Tamar Adler
And so I would never throw those things out. They're so good, you know.
Emily Siner
One way to increase the lifespan of all the parts of your veggies is to store them with the right balance of moisture. Baby spinach that you buy in a plastic bag tends to get gooey, Margaret says, because the plastic just retains too much moisture.
Margaret Lee
So if you stick a paper towel or a kitchen cloth in there with the greens, then they'll stay fresher much longer. So things that you notice getting soggy, you could what, wrap in a dry cloth or things that look really dry, you could wrap in a wet cloth and so kind of managing the right moisture and humidity for things.
Emily Siner
Not every experiment with every ingredient is going to be successful. In fact, this is takeaway 5 cooking with leftovers should be an adventure. Like Margaret's mom throwing all the sauces together on a chicken, not trying to achieve the exact same outcome each time. Or Tamar frying rice with whatever she has in her fridge. Going off script is essential to using up leftovers, and that's a good thing.
Margaret Lee
It ends up being this fun game where you are creating something from what seems like nothing and solving this puzzle and then you get to eat it. I think the more that you're creative in the kitchen and you take risks and you try new things, the better of a cook you become. And then the more likely you are to get a delicious dish over and over again.
Emily Siner
And if it doesn't work, well, that's an adventure in its own right.
Tamar Adler
I over salted the pasta water like three nights ago and we just all had to suffer through really salty pasta. And I was like, it's so wonderful to know that we can survive eating this too salty pasta.
Emily Siner
Now if it's really inedible, I give you permission to toss it and order takeout tonight. So to recap, Takeaway 1 Think of the end of one meal as the beginning of the next.
Margaret Lee
Next.
Emily Siner
Takeaway 2 Labeling is your friend. Takeaway 3 Substitute similar ingredients for each other. Takeaway 4 When in doubt, change the texture and Takeaway 5 Cooking with leftovers should be an adventure.
Margaret Lee
It's kind of a game, you know, it's like your own version of Chopped, but hopefully you're not having to put gummy bears in your dinner or something.
Emily Siner
But you know what? If you want to try it, go for it.
Marielle Segarra
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Host: Marielle Segarra
Guests: Margaret Lee (Cookbook Author, "Perfectly Good Food"), Tamar Adler (Author, "The Everlasting Meal")
Air Date: June 11, 2026
In this practical and encouraging episode, Life Kit investigates how to creatively transform leftovers and those kitchen odds and ends into delicious meals—saving money, time, and the planet. Host Marielle Segarra, along with guest reporter Emily Siner, interviews culinary experts Margaret Lee and Tamar Adler for actionable tips, personal stories, and inventive strategies that make "rescuing" food feel easy and fun—not a chore.
This episode encourages listeners to shift their attitude—from seeing leftovers as a problem to seeing them as tasty potential. By sharing both concrete tips and inviting a playful spirit into kitchen experiments, Margaret Lee and Tamar Adler make the prospect of “leftover rescue” seem not just manageable, but exciting.