Barbie Ferreira

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Long Winded with Gabby Windey

Episode: Barbie Ferreira
Date: April 16, 2026
Host: Gabby Windey
Guest: Barbie Ferreira

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Episode Overview

This episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey dives deeply into the modern realities of dating, sexuality, mental health, and the creative industry with special guest Barbie Ferreira. Using her signature humor and heartfelt curiosity, Gabby explores Barbie’s journey from e-commerce (“E-com”) modeling to indie-film success, candidly discussing career pivots, the pressures of Hollywood, family, and pop culture—plus a good helping of true crime and internet rabbit holes. The tone is open, fun, and irreverent, with both vulnerability and gut-busting laughs throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sexuality and Dating Openness

• Defining Fluidity:

  • Barbie and her friend Grace open up about sexuality beyond binaries.
  • “[My sexuality is]…you can never pin me down, you know?” – Grace (01:14)
  • “Never let them know your next genitalia.” – Gabby (01:28)

• Dating Life:

  • Barbie admits to dating someone new—a guy—but keeps details private due to the "evil eye" and fear of jinxing things.
  • Discussions around the thrill of new relationships and relatable nervousness (“…that’s the best part. It’s like when you’re new…hot and horny…everything’s beautiful.” – Gabby, Barbie, Grace, 03:09–03:24)

2. Identity, Career, and Creative Fulfillment

• Career Risks and Fulfillment:

  • Gabby praises Barbie for leaving Euphoria and pursuing projects that truly excite her.
  • “Every choice I make, I’m like, is this the correct one? Even if it’s something small, like what I’m wearing to the premiere tonight.” – Barbie (07:07)

• Balancing Money vs. Creative Happiness:

  • Barbie discusses the financial sacrifices and satisfaction of working in theater and indie movies.
  • “It’s been like two years of my life kind of doing these maybe less lucrative financially things that were really fulfilling for me.” – Barbie (08:28)

• Manifesting & Navigating Modern Hollywood:

  • Both discuss how online presence has become a form of nepotism and a gateway into the industry.
  • “Do you think…having kind of an online platform is like a different type of nepotism?” – Gabby (10:22)
  • “It’s gotten me everywhere that I’ve gotten today.” – Barbie (10:34)
  • Barbie recounts her start via Tumblr and Instagram, how “the Internet kind of liked me.” (10:58)

3. Modeling, AI, and Generational Differences

• E-com Modeling Origins:

  • Barbie shares her American Apparel days, starting from open calls to modeling on Supreme and Palace-wearing New York streets.
  • “[W]e were like on the bridge and…wearing Supreme and Palace on the streets of SoHo. I’m painting a picture here.” – Barbie (13:52)

• AI and Authenticity Concerns:

  • Discusses the threat of AI replacing real models and generational differences in recognizing filters and altered images.
  • “Can you imagine big campaigns with an AI model? No, sorry, I do need someone…to look up to.” – Gabby (17:13)
  • “My mom will post a face app photo of me and be like, ‘My daughter…she’s so gorgeous.’” – Barbie (17:58)

4. True Crime, Internet Rabbit Holes, and Skepticism

• Documentary Obsessions:

  • Gabby brings up the Lucy Letby case and the group debates healthcare workers and AI in documentaries.
  • They spiral into favorite true crime topics, missing persons, and the bizarre (e.g., Russian mountain disappearances).

• Online Mysteries & Scams:

  • Barbie and Grace discuss the podcast “The Telepathy Tapes,” parental wishful thinking, and how quickly belief can slide into exploitation.
  • “It slowly unraveled…this has been happening since like ancient times…my daughter’s an oracle…it’s a subconscious, almost Ouija board effect.” – Barbie (40:12–40:24)

5. Feminism, “Mile End Kicks,” and Life in Montreal

• “Mile End Kicks” Discussion:

  • Barbie reflects on shooting the indie film in Montreal, the city’s French/English dynamics, and her cast's vibrant community.
  • “The average American doesn’t even know they speak French in Canada.” – Barbie (26:07)

• Feminist Themes and Character Analysis:

  • Gabby praises the film’s low-key feminism and the complex, messy sexual and professional lives depicted.
  • “It’s quite feminist. Naturally…if [the main character] wasn’t so obsessed with these D-squad boys, she could have been a lesbian.” – Gabby (46:48)
  • Candid discussion about sex scenes, heartbreak, and coming-of-age missteps.

6. Young Fame, the Industry, and Self-Care

• Child Stars & Modern Pop Culture:

  • Heartfelt reflection on the pitfalls of child fame (Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, Amanda Bynes).
  • “I think kids shouldn’t be famous…You’re set up for failure.” – Barbie (63:32)
  • The need for guidance, and the hazards of growing up in public.

• Self-Care & Indulgences:

  • The joy of buying bags and shoes instead of gambling, swapping PR freebies, and cherishing family moments.
  • Barbie’s pride in buying her mom a house: “…I have to give back to my family because of the way that I grew up.” (69:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“Never let them know your next genitalia.”
— Gabby (01:28)

“Every choice I make, I’m like, is this the correct one? Even if it’s something small, like what I’m wearing to the premiere tonight.”
— Barbie (07:07)

“The Internet kind of liked me. So I was like, oh, there’s got to be something in this.”
— Barbie (10:58)

“My mom will post a face app photo of me and be like, ‘My daughter…she’s so gorgeous.’”
— Barbie (17:58)

“The hate was so forced, you guys. The hate was forced.”
— Grace (62:14, on Justin Bieber & Chapel Roan)

“It’s the gays, girls, and Isaiah. He says it all the time.”
— Grace (51:28, on inclusive friend groups)

“I balance [doing indie projects] with being a part-time influencer, you know, make the money while I do these incredible projects…”
— Barbie (69:08)

“Kids can’t make decisions. No, famously, we don’t let them.”
— Grace (64:07)

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Segment Timestamps

• Sexuality & Dating Games: 01:10 – 03:24
• Career Moves/Newfound Freedom: 06:53 – 08:36
• Navigating Hollywood, Online as Nepotism: 10:00 – 11:54
• Modeling, E-Com, and AI Clones: 12:35 – 17:13
• True Crime Obsessions/Rabbit Holes: 19:13 – 41:02
• “Mile End Kicks” & Montreal Life: 21:17 – 26:43
• Feminism & Film Realness: 46:47 – 47:58
• Child Star Reflections & Pop Culture: 63:04 – 65:28
• Self-Care, Shopping, & Family: 54:38 – 69:27

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Final Thoughts

This freewheeling conversation gives listeners:

• Honest, sometimes hilarious insight into the realities behind the façade of showbiz and influencer culture.
• Comforting affirmation of the messiness of early adulthood, heartache, and balancing ambition with self-care.
• Fresh perspectives on representation, nostalgia, and why we chase certain things—plus killer recommendations if you love sleuthing or bag shopping.

Recommended for anyone craving unfiltered conversation, pop culture savvy, and a reminder that everyone—even the stars—are figuring it out day by day.

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Films/Projects Mentioned:

• “Mile End Kicks” (in theaters April 17)
• “Face the Death” (in theaters April 10)

Podcast Referenced:

• “The Telepathy Tapes”

Pop Culture:

• Trisha Paytas, Justin Bieber, Chapel Roan, Lana Del Rey, Slayyyter, Coachella, AI/FaceTune, Housewives, Euphoria

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Transcript

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[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, my God. Pan.

[Grace]

Hi, I'm Pan.

[Gabby]

I know. Hi.

[Barbie Ferreira]

You know. No, I do both.

[Grace]

I do a little bit of both. You can never really. You can never pin me down. Like, you know what I mean?

[Gabby]

I think that's great. You gotta keep people on their toes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

You gotta keep people on their toes.

[Gabby]

Let them know your next move.

[Barbie Ferreira]

They will never guess. They will never guess.

[Gabby]

Never let them know your next genitalia.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Never. And to me, I'm down for whatever. Yeah, I'm literally down for what?

[Gabby]

Have you seen anyone?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Gabby]

Not to start like this. Wait, this. How do you pronounce your last name?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Ferrera.

[Gabby]

Okay. Ferrera. Ferrera. The eye is silent.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The eye is silent. It's like a fajada. If you really wanna get fancy with it. Yeah.

[Grace]

People tend to think it's Ferreria, which I understand.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Okay. But it's not. So Barbie Ferrera.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes, hello. Thank you for having me.

[Gabby]

And she's dating someone.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, my God, stop. Maybe no one ever cares about who I'm dating. So it's actually perfect.

[Grace]

I'm like, hey, always take a couple of guesses.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Like, okay, it was single. Wait, is it a boy or a girl?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Boy.

[Gabby]

Somewhere in between sometimes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, definitely sometimes.

[Gabby]

How long have you been seeing him?

[Grace]

Not very long.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God. So cute. Wait. Okay. I'll stop asking you about your date.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm not getting shy already.

[Gabby]

I know. I'm like. I'm not going to get anywhere. And I don't want to push.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like, blushing.

[Gabby]

So you like him?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Grace]

And I keep saying, like, the evil eye, you know, we got to keep it. The evil eyes out there.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So we keep it hush, hush for now.

[Gabby]

Okay, that makes sense. Would the evil eye being like the public trying to tear you down or just spirit?

[Grace]

I just feel like when you. I don't know. I've also never done that.

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[Barbie Ferreira]

I, like, dated someone for three years and no one. They just thought we were friends. Like, it really doesn't really matter. So I don't know what evil eye at all, actually. Probably just.

[Gabby]

No, I get it. You don't want to, like, you don't want to not curse it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It just feels like. Jinx it. Yeah, jinx it. Yeah, jinx.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

We don't want that. But I mean, still, I'm.

[Gabby]

I know, but that's the best part. It's like when you're new.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And you're just like, no, no.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, it's like just started. And we don't have baggage with each other yet.

[Gabby]

Literally.

[Grace]

It's great.

[Gabby]

Yes. You're like, hot and horny.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Exactly.

[Gabby]

Everything is.

[Grace]

Yeah, everything's beautiful.

[Gabby]

It really is. Sometimes when Robbie and I, like, I don't know, we get a glimpse of it, I guess of, like, being back. I'm like, oh, we're back.

[Grace]

How long have you all been together?

[Gabby]

We've been together for like three and a half years. She tells people five, of course.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like, why? Just to, like, amp it up a little bit. Yeah.

[Gabby]

She's like, I can't wait to.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She's obsessed with you for a year and a half.

[Grace]

So she counts it.

[Gabby]

Literally.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, literally.

[Gabby]

She watched my bachelor Bachelorette seasons. I freak out that the cameras aren't rolling. Okay, but they are.

[Grace]

But they are.

[Gabby]

Thank God.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Love it.

[Gabby]

It's a one woman show. Grassroots.

[Grace]

I love it. I love it.

[Gabby]

Okay, so we. I feel like we have so much to talk about, but I don't.

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[Gabby]

Nowhere to start one. I think the way you've done your career is like so inspirational. Thank you. Yes. Like stepping away from euphoria and like doing things that actually fulfill you. Because it's like, it's scary.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But yeah.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like everything being an actor is scary. I feel like I. Every choice I make, I'm like, is this the correct one? Even if it's something small, like what I'm wearing to the premiere tonight.

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Because they're like, everything matters. It doesn't.

[Grace]

Honestly, this year I've just let go. I've like, I'm at a point where

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like almost three. Like I've let go and let. God girl.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

I'm just like I can't control anything, so I just do it.

[Gabby]

No, that's amazing.

[Grace]

I just keep chugging along.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. Come on. Come on, girl.

[Gabby]

In front of the other. Yeah. It's like an alcoholic. It's just like a day at a time.

[Barbie Ferreira]

One foot in front of the other.

[Grace]

Let's go.

[Barbie Ferreira]

We can do this.

[Gabby]

Were you like. Because I feel like I'm in a place kind of not to make it about me, but in my career where it's, like, same. I want to. I want to, like, not worry about the money as much and, like, take a step back.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And, like, not told. I mean, I'll sell my soul for the right thing. Yeah.

[Grace]

Of course. If you believe in it. Sell my soul away.

[Gabby]

But it's like, okay, I still have to, like, wait. And then I'm not making as much money. It's the balancing act. And then it's, like, scared.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's scary. Cause it's a balancing act of, like, what? Like, you know, I have all these, like, things that are real life. Tangible bills usually, or, like, problems. And then I have, like, my creative fulfillment. And I've been trying to balance those two things. Like, I, like, went away to do a play, you know, and then, like, went on to do two indie movies.

[Grace]

Movies.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's been like two years of my life kind of doing these maybe less lucrative financially things that were really fulfilling for me.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I really love it.

[Grace]

I feel like I just am finding the balance of that, of how to, like, do things that are still commercial and fun. I love doing those, too. I want to be in a Minions movie. I keep putting that out there.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I like, listen up. I keep mentioning, I noticed there's a new one and I wasn't asked to audition. And I keep putting. I'm pretty good at Manifesto and I keep talking about the Minions. But since, like, Minions 3, I've been like, I would killed to be in this movie.

[Gabby]

Keep talking.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I think if I just talk

[Grace]

about it enough, maybe they will put me in it.

[Gabby]

No, you have a great voice, Banana. I feel like I'm practicing. I don't even need any concerts.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I actually don't. I've been what they call miniones or something like that. I, like, have been learning. There's, like, YouTube tutorials. Anyway, all that to say. All that to say is like, I've

[Grace]

just been finding what Also navigating Hollywood now is different.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's not like.

[Gabby]

What do you mean? Also, I love voiceover.

[Grace]

Oh, my God. You have an incredible voice.

[Gabby]

Thank you. You do too.

[Grace]

Us two is yapping and then the. An made in show, please.

[Gabby]

But I want to be in the Minions too.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Then let's all be the Minions.

[Grace]

The bad Minions. Bad prequel.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The baddies. Minions. Baddies.

[Gabby]

No, actually, can you imagine a Minions for Girls?

[Barbie Ferreira]

This is Minions for girls. Come on.

[Grace]

Come on now.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, it's already cooking you.

[Gabby]

Literally what we need is representation.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I think that they just got, like, an incredible idea here for free. So let's get it done. We're available.

[Gabby]

It's on the back end.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. Baddies. Minions. No, I love it. I'm like a really.

[Grace]

It's fun because it's like Hollywood right

[Barbie Ferreira]

now is just, like, you're, like, selling yourself as a brand as well, a different way. Like, you're not, like, at the studio, like, you know, living at the studio and they pay you pennies to the dollar and they just own you. And you play, like, guest spots anymore, or even the traditional movie star or TV show thing. It feels like people are trying to figure out how to navigate the world now. Now that we have, like, streaming and online stuff, people can make their own things.

[Gabby]

Right? Do you think, like. Do you think because I do that now, like, having kind of an online platform is like, a different type of nepotism.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's gotten me everywhere that I've gotten today.

[Grace]

And I used it literally.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. Every step of the way.

[Gabby]

Right, right.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's what I had.

[Gabby]

And when you come from, like, nothing.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. So I had no family that was, like, producing movies or someone who's like, a sound guy. Like, nothing at all. Not, like, working on.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I. I had to, like, kind of figure out.

[Grace]

And I really early on just found

[Barbie Ferreira]

out the Internet kind of liked me. So I just was like, oh, there's got to be something in this.

[Gabby]

How could they not? I know me looking at your Tumblr pictures last night.

[Grace]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby]

Thank you. How's she making those faces so young?

[Barbie Ferreira]

I mean, my mom's so good. You can, like, see, like, the, like, floral Latina, like, bedspread, like, with my mother's room and, like, her pictures of,

[Grace]

like, our first communion in the back,

[Barbie Ferreira]

like, from, like, the 70s. I like, look back at this and I'm like, oh, my God. Me and my mom's room just, like, laying and, like, I mean, those are so fun. I was just, like, always. I felt like the Internet was a

[Grace]

place where people understood me more. And I also was like, maybe this will one day turn into something lucrative in my acting careers. I've always wanted to be an actor.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I was just trying.

[Gabby]

No, you literally did it.

[Grace]

It's about ambition.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes.

[Gabby]

No, you're a manifester.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Thank you. Early on, I love that. I've just kept trying my whole life. I think that that's like. That's honestly what you have to do. Just keep trying and maybe one day it'll work out.

[Gabby]

Right. Right. Because I'm like, kind of everyone. Maybe not everyone, but isn't it everyone's to, like, be on tv?

[Grace]

Of course.

[Gabby]

Right. So it's like we all have the same dream. So at some point you're like, okay, I'm just gonna give it up.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I know. I told my friend who's a nurse.

[Grace]

I was like, when I was a kid, I just, like, really knew I wanted to be an actor. I would watch movies and see.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And she's like, we all think that. And I was like, oh, okay.

[Gabby]

You're like, sorry.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I thought it was like, only me wanted to be in the big screen. She's like, we all think that. Like, I'm like, oh, okay. I didn't know. I guess I just thought that this was unique to me.

[Gabby]

Right. But I really wanted it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. No, and then, you know, doing like, little, like, I was like, little Peter Pan. Like a little theater production.

[Grace]

But, oh, my God. So fun. Yeah, it was fun.

[Gabby]

So you like. Which I don't know if you're sick of telling your story, but you went into, like, how did you get discovered for E. Com? Modeling.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, my gosh. That was honestly really funny.

[Grace]

So I started modeling for American Apparel

[Barbie Ferreira]

when I was 16.

[Gabby]

I.

[Grace]

This is like, the first time I ever seen, like, an email that was like an open call. And I was like, okay, I am clearly not a model, like, a traditional model, but the girls that do American Apparel are, like, kind of at the point at, like, 2013, 2012, it was

[Gabby]

like, and you're hot as hell. I mean, you're such, like, American Apparel.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I will say at 16, I did not think that. I'm gonna tell you that right now. I didn't think that at all. But I was like, you know, maybe

[Grace]

this will be something that could help me with my acting career.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Always acting career. So as a little kid, I was like, come on now. Like, you know, I was like, at agent's office, like, I'm the real deal. Like, at 10, it's, you know, razzle dazzle. So I was like, maybe this will help. And they did get back to me, and then I did a shoot, and

[Grace]

then they offered me a job at the mall.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I lived in Jersey at the time, the Garden State Plaza. And so they offered me a job. I was like, sure. So I worked at the.

[Grace]

At the store for a little bit.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And then the pictures came out like

[Grace]

kind of a few months after I started working there.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And then, you know, it went like. It went platinum in New York. You know, it went real platinum in New York. Like the New York indie scene. It went platinum.

[Gabby]

What do you mean? Like, you just like the pictures of

[Barbie Ferreira]

me and Diana, my friend, like, they

[Grace]

were like very New York.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, you know, we were like on like the bridge and we were like. It was very of the time, I would say, you know, we were all

[Grace]

wearing supreme and palace on the streets of soho.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm painting a picture here.

[Gabby]

Literally. Nostalgia. Yeah, I want to go the dollar

[Barbie Ferreira]

pizza outside the opening ceremony that we can't afford anything in. But we're like sneaking into parties. We have no business being in lots. Lots can relate in that. So it was like kind of a fun time.

[Grace]

And then I started working with Petra Collins, who's a good friend of mine who we met.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I met from sneaking into a party that I probably shouldn't be at. Cause I was like 17 or 16. I did that a lot.

[Gabby]

Is she the photographer? Yeah. Okay. Yes.

[Grace]

She's wonderful.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And we still have a relationship to this day. We still like, shoot together and stuff. So it was like my first editorial

[Grace]

shoot and I started doing that for more artistic id. Like girls in bedrooms. Kind of really fun stuff. And then I eventually got signed to willame. I was 18.

[Barbie Ferreira]

After trying really hard, I had to

[Grace]

literally had totally 10 editorials to before

[Barbie Ferreira]

people were like, maybe she could make us a. A dollar.

[Gabby]

Isn't that crazy? And it's like, what do you mean? I. I come from nothing. I have no money. How am I supposed to build this? Like, put this together? You see my best pictures. You see me like, come on, you're gonna make me. You're gonna make money struggle.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I was literally like, please. I was like, I was doing like 17 magazine pear shaped photo shoots. You know, like hourglass pear shape.

[Grace]

I'm like, they're like, who's a bubble pony?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, I'm trying here. And eventually I got assigned to Wilhelmina. And then I started working a lot of E. Com.

[Grace]

Like, at the time it was just like for everyone.

[Gabby]

I have a wet cough, Everything's fine, and that's okay.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I vape and smoke too much weed.

[Gabby]

So kind of my conscience smoking. I'm like, I guess I should stop.

[Grace]

I love smoking.

[Gabby]

Me too.

[Grace]

What can we say?

[Gabby]

No. Like, I like to inhale things.

[Grace]

I love to have something in my fingers like this.

[Gabby]

It's something to do and it's like an excuse to take a break. Go outside. Yes. If I could take anything in, like food, any kind of substance in through smoking, I would do it.

[Grace]

Oh, I would do it. I love to smoke. I grew up in a smoky childhood too, so everything was smoke filled. It brings me much comfort.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But my voice, as you can hear, have been through it. My 12 octaves.

[Grace]

It's like down here.

[Gabby]

I should take a break.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I sound like that 20. Like, I sound like an old smoker's voice. But it's part of my charm. Part of my charm. He modeling.

[Gabby]

Boring. Boo.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But yeah, then I did that.

[Gabby]

No, because E Com. I feel like even I was listening to something and you brought it up and he was like, what's E. Com? It's like, loser, loser.

[Grace]

How else do you buy clothes?

[Gabby]

Literally, Come on.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Someone that you're buying the clothes from, hopefully is someone wearing it now. It's just like, I. I was just

[Gabby]

going to say that doesn't work for me. Like. Yes, you were like the original kind of like, what model? Whatever for AI.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, my God. Really? I was modeling for AI without knowing they were harvesting my data. I was a plan in the technology industry to AI.

[Gabby]

You knew that.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I didn't. I first hear.

[Grace]

Well, I hear even like in that

[Barbie Ferreira]

time there were murmurings of like, they're going to get rid of E Comm models. We're all like.

[Grace]

And they were starting to be people, like, putting clothes on mannequins. First of all, it never works.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

If I'm an online shopper all the time, I need to see it on a person.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Even when I'm on the real real.

[Grace]

It's really hard for me to envision

[Barbie Ferreira]

what this looks like. I understand. It's like vintage, yada, yada.

[Grace]

I want to see a person wearing the clothes.

[Gabby]

Yeah. No, I agree. Because then you're not as, like, drawn to it. I do think there's like a block or even whatever on, like, can you imagine big campaigns with an AI model? It's like, no, sorry. I do need someone. Like, I look up to girl.

[Grace]

I'm scared.

[Gabby]

Mia Goth.

[Grace]

Yeah. Like, but I'm scared because a lot of people older than a certain age really buy the like, AI and the filters and everything. Like, I posted like a picture of me like, super yassified. Like, I don't know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

You're like, gorgeous and no I literally go, is this.

[Grace]

And my mother, everyone I know that's over the age of like 45 was like, it's you, baby. You look amazing.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I was like, that's not it. No, I don't blindness. Like, my mom will literally like. And I love her, she loves me. She will post a face app photo

[Grace]

of me and be like, my daughter.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She's so gorgeous.

[Gabby]

She's gorgeous and she looks exactly like this. And she sees it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She sees me as there. And I'm like, I. I think it's like a Yassify blindness. And then soon we will never know the AI blindness.

[Grace]

Pinterest.

[Gabby]

No, but that's the thing is I feel like they don't even know like how to yassify or that it's a thing.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

So they wouldn't know to like put the two together.

[Grace]

They don't know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And we need, I think this is a big thing. We need to like show people this is not what real people think.

[Gabby]

No, no. Literally, because it is a nuance.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Gabby]

Right. It's crazy smooth skin. Do you know Teresa Giudice? Like her facetune?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, it's great.

[Gabby]

Oh my God, it's so beautiful.

[Barbie Ferreira]

There's a lot of queens with great facetune. And the thing is it works for certain people. And then when I see and then I.

[Grace]

It's so easy.

[Gabby]

I don't need to get anybody.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Not just anybody. You gotta like really, first of all, lean it. You have to sure that. Judas. Judas.

[Grace]

And you have to really, really, really, like lean into it and like do it with your chest.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like your videos have to have full glamour.

[Grace]

Like, you have to continue the bit. Like, I don't want to see it half assed.

[Gabby]

No, I agree. But it is something. Yeah. That these boomers need to pick up on because even like what we. I feel like the difference between. Oh, there was a documentary on Netflix about this nurse, Lucy Letby.

[Grace]

Oh, I haven't seen it.

[Gabby]

Anyways, she was the one that killed all those. Yes. Yeah. But I think she's innocent.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gabby]

Wait, after the doc, a lot of people think she's innocent.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The true crime.

[Grace]

Gabby Wendy.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes.

[Gabby]

And I think they're retrying her.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Because like apparently, however, if this like any kind of health care worker that's been like indicted or accused of anything, it's only like, like 1 in 10 or something that are guilty. They're like almost always the found innocent. So the fact that she's in jail is crazy.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And like she just didn't it wasn't her fault.

[Grace]

I need to really tap into this because I love going down a Reddit thread of just like. And just going down and down the

[Barbie Ferreira]

TikTok and then just going so down.

[Grace]

Hours later.

[Gabby]

Coming up for air, literally at 2am

[Grace]

I have my decision of who I

[Barbie Ferreira]

think is guilty or not. Like, I. I love that.

[Gabby]

And so you should watch.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes, yes, I'm vaguely aware.

[Gabby]

Yeah, no, you already know the story. You should. It was really interesting to watch. But they have like, they used AI in a way instead of like just using this person who didn't want to be on camera, instead of just like blocking out her face or blurring it. Yeah, they did like an AI mold of her. Oh, no, it's like one is okay. They did this and then literally later in the docu, they had pictures that they were filming, like hand pictures. And I swear she was in.

[Barbie Ferreira]

They forgot.

[Gabby]

Yeah, we can see what she actually looks like.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I think I have seen a clip of this.

[Grace]

Does it look like someone's wearing a

[Barbie Ferreira]

hyper realistic skin mask over it, but, like, in a virtual reality way?

[Gabby]

Yeah. Oh, I like it. I'm afraid. Your mom would buy it.

[Grace]

My mom would buy it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

My grandma's like, oh, that's gorgeous. My grandma's gonna be like, oh, the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

[Gabby]

Literally. Yeah. And it's just a little different, but, like, I like it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

They should put that on me for every role that I do now. Just the AI like, skin mask.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Grace]

You look beautiful.

[Gabby]

But I was surprised. I'm getting over. I'm getting over the bronchitis.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's okay, baby. You're good.

[Gabby]

So I want to get into like, Mile end Kicks. Okay, so you filmed it how long ago?

[Grace]

A year and a half ago. Maybe two years almost. It was a summer.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It was two summers ago.

[Gabby]

Okay. Did it feel like forever for it to come out? Because it came out in Canada.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It came out in Canada.

[Grace]

It came out tiff. It actually didn't because Phase of death

[Barbie Ferreira]

actually we shot even longer ago. So then I was for Mile and Kicks.

[Grace]

I was like, oh, what a fast turnaround.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I was like, we went straight to the film festival. We got, you know, acquired. It went. And now we have like, a date. I was actually kind of like, surprised

[Grace]

because a lot of the things sometimes

[Barbie Ferreira]

take a little bit longer. But I think with indie films, it's just like a little bit easier to go through the film festival and have

[Grace]

it come out in different ways.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But yeah, it was. I like, have. I. I Distinctly remember it because it was like such a fun summer in Montreal, which I really enjoy.

[Gabby]

Yes. Do you love Montreal? I do, yeah.

[Grace]

I actually really do. I used to go when I was an econ model back for this like lingerie brand. And I was like a kid who like didn't even know what I was up to. I was just like getting like, you know, drunk there because the drinking age was like 19 or 18, so I

[Barbie Ferreira]

was like, I think 19. 19 year old lingerie model. And I was just fucked up. I was just like. And so I recall that. And then I like couldn't. Couldn't do that again because of the nature of the work.

[Grace]

But it was. I got to really explore it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It was really, really, really fun. And like, also the cast was really

[Gabby]

fun to be like French Canadian.

[Grace]

Juliet is in Robert and so Juliet's

[Gabby]

like the queen of your roommate.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Yes. Everyone was so good.

[Grace]

She's really amazing. Like, red room. She's really just incredible. And she's like the queen of Montreal.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Especially like in Mile End. She like knows everyone. Like everywhere you walk it's just like, Juliet, Juliet. You know what I mean? It's like literally. So it was fun to have like an insider tea. I was like, this is my cool girlfriend. She like runs these streets or whatever.

[Gabby]

We're on the legs.

[Grace]

Check the list.

[Gabby]

Yeah, Check it again. Fair Matt by name.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

With my girl Juliet too.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Candace, sweetheart, you know.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Bonjour. Did you learn any French? You spoke a little. Okay, maybe.

[Barbie Ferreira]

No, I feeding you the line.

[Grace]

I like spoke it so badly. Obviously. I know that Grace doesn't speak any French, but also Canadians learn French, like Spanish, like for Americans. So they have like a little bit of like Puerto ear albano.

[Barbie Ferreira]

You know, that kind of vibe.

[Gabby]

Yes, yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I wanted to do the French version of Pedo IR Albano. So I was like, how do I do that? And so I tried to just kind

[Grace]

of sound out the words.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I mean, I really know next to nothing with French. I see Portuguese, which is like a

[Grace]

little bit simple, but I also had to like, make sure I wasn't speaking

[Barbie Ferreira]

Portuguese with a French accent because that's not great. So it was.

[Grace]

But to be honest, I just didn't

[Barbie Ferreira]

have to speak it. So I actually don't know any. If anyone wants to.

[Gabby]

Yeah, my wife Robbie's from Montreal. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Quebecois.

[Gabby]

She went to like grade school, kind of part of grade school and high school, and then she went to Miguel. Oh, God. Yeah. She can speak French, but It's like, that makes what you're saying, because it doesn't sound like other French.

[Barbie Ferreira]

No, it does not sound like other French at all.

[Grace]

My French friends who watch the movie

[Barbie Ferreira]

can't really understand the French parts that well, but they're also not, like, French, like, from France. They're, like, American French. So we don't know the truth here. We don't know the truth, but there's like.

[Grace]

I mean, within, like, Quebec, there's, like, such cool.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, it's just like a different version of the language that's, like, so. So based off of where they live that it's so cool. Like, there's. It's like a pretty small community. And, you know, we got the whole

[Grace]

crew is French Canadian pretty much, apart

[Barbie Ferreira]

from maybe a couple people, but it was just really sick. And the bagels there are so fire.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God. Oh, I bet.

[Grace]

Oh, I had so many, I think.

[Gabby]

Yes. And smoking cigs the whole time, baby.

[Grace]

I was smoking cigs.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God. And being in Canada, I was shooting a TV show for five months in Toronto.

[Grace]

How was.

[Gabby]

Great. I love Toronto so much. I mean, Montreal. And that's what I was gonna say. It's so funny. Cause was his name Hugo, the boyfriend? What was his name?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Archie or Hugo? Hugo, the French Canadian one.

[Gabby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he was so pissed at you for moving in. Like, all these white people want to colonize Cabanak. It's like, that is Montreal. That's why they. Everything is still French. They will not give it up.

[Grace]

And I like that. There's a cool history of, like, that I learned about, like, just Canadians in general, because originally the movie was called

[Barbie Ferreira]

Anglophone and which is like, Francophone. Anglophone. Anglophone. You speak English and, like, you know, you basically, like. I just learned a lot about, like, the, like, Quebec and Ontario and all of that together and kind of like

[Grace]

the nuances of it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And so, yeah, they're trying to preserve

[Grace]

the culture of, like, French Canadians.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I think that's sick.

[Gabby]

And no, it feels like France when you go there. I'm like, I've been to Paris once. Like, everyone's so chic. Like, the young kids are staying out till 6am yes, they are smoking skinny cigs. Like, nobody speaks English. The signs are in French.

[Grace]

And I think it's a law that you have to have French signs on just to. To, like, preserve it. I had no idea about any of this.

[Barbie Ferreira]

No. The average American doesn't even know they speak French in Canada.

[Gabby]

No, you just think it' place. And Then you go and you're like, why? Like, I feel like it's like a joke.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's like, it's like, wait, why is everyone.

[Grace]

I like, went to a public school.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, I went to like pretty low income public school my whole life. I remember the first time I went, I was like, wait, why are people speaking French here? I thought this was Canada.

[Gabby]

Literally anything of Canada, we don't learn

[Barbie Ferreira]

anything about anybody, like straight up. So it's really you just a.

[Gabby]

Or nothing you say, or nothing.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I was like, I, I am glad that I got a little bit of a taste before because I literally from going to public school in America for so long, I, I, no one ever mentions that there are French speakers in Canada.

[Gabby]

No one. Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I went. And I was like, yo, something's a

[Gabby]

little off here, right?

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like, am I in the right place?

[Gabby]

And yes. How did I get to France?

[Grace]

I literally didn't know. I was like, this is so the first time there.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I mean, obviously when I went back, I had a, I'm a little bit older. I knew, I knew. I got, you know, I got learned. I, I read, I read Canadian history.

[Gabby]

Right? Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Did you? No, no, I just got other people

[Gabby]

to tell me, but they're really proud. They're proud people.

[Grace]

I love it.

[Gabby]

Yeah, no, same, I'm like, if things go right, because Robbie's a citizen. So it's like, I don't know, we get a blackout, we're going to war, like, I guess we're going to Canada.

[Grace]

That's such. And it's right there.

[Gabby]

And yeah, it's really. And there's lots of production in Canada these days.

[Grace]

Production.

[Gabby]

Nice people, right? Nice. So nice. Whenever I was on a plane to go to Canada, a man every time would ask me if I would want to, if they, they would put my carry on for me.

[Grace]

Oh, that's so sweet.

[Gabby]

Never coming back to the States. Never, not once has a guy ever asked me. And this thing is like, who knows what I have in there? But it's gotta go like to the stomach, to the chest, to the head.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. And then you're like, yeah. Balancing act, literally.

[Gabby]

And nobody asks if you need help but the Canadians.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Well, I also, I noticed this with like, when I'm going to New York, Louisiana. Men will trample me to go in

[Barbie Ferreira]

front of the door.

[Grace]

Excuse me.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And then, you know, you go to the south and men with like cowboy hats opening the door for you. My lady, like, please. And I'm like, okay, I'm like, literally, I'll be in New York, and a man will trample me to go in front of me to the same place.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Excuse me.

[Gabby]

Literally, I'm a. I'm a woman.

[Grace]

I'm a lady.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Also, like, what. Where are you going?

[Grace]

Where are we all going?

[Barbie Ferreira]

To the same place.

[Grace]

We don't need to. Trampling me, like, literally, like, pushing me

[Barbie Ferreira]

out of the way, like, in their.

[Grace]

Their giant backpack. I'm like, what happened to just, like,

[Gabby]

being polite and be a man? Be a man and get a wallet.

[Grace]

Just literally be like, walk off. Don't push me out of the way

[Barbie Ferreira]

to get in front of a door.

[Gabby]

Oh, it's terrible. Walking on the sidewalk with a man that's small and he's coming towards you. He's not moving out of the way. You have to move around him.

[Grace]

Oh, I can't.

[Gabby]

Excuse me.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I can't do it.

[Grace]

And I notice it every time at the airport. And I notice when men are very,

[Barbie Ferreira]

very kind and very gentleman.

[Grace]

Y. And I'm like, oh, yes, we're not

[Barbie Ferreira]

in LA no more.

[Gabby]

No.

[Grace]

Right?

[Barbie Ferreira]

No, we're in Canada. Somewhere else.

[Gabby]

Yes. Just not here. No. I feel like immediately when you get there, you feel, like, safer also, because there's no guns.

[Grace]

Well, that's the thing. I used to, like, literally, like, talking

[Barbie Ferreira]

to people outside of America about guns is the craziest thing, because to them, it's like, such a foreign. I'm like, oh, we like. I'm constantly like, oh, there are people with guns here.

[Gabby]

Yeah, everybody has a gun.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Everybody has a gun.

[Gabby]

Not me, but it's like, should I get.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Not me. No. But, like, at this point, if everyone has a gun, what is the girl to do?

[Gabby]

Yeah, I'm not gonna be the last one to get a gun, I'll tell you that. That much.

[Grace]

I can't even shoot again, I'll be honest.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I literally went to a shooting range

[Grace]

once, and I thought I would be cool. I thought it'd be cool.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I had a panic attack. I know. I literally started sweating.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm not that kind of girl. I can't even play violent video games. I'm playing Pocopia right now, which is

[Grace]

the Pokemon Animal Crossing.

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Barbie Ferreira]

That's my kind of thing.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Grace]

Building a island, keeping my Pokemon happy. No guns. But to them, it's like, you know, they're like, oh, my God, did you hear there's a shooting? I. I'm like, babe, this is every day. Like, actually, we are desensitized to it because it's like, this is what happens all the time.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God. Actually, like, another. What is School shooting. It's terrible. Any kind of mass shooting where, like, whenever something comes across my. My whatever phone, I'm like, thank God it's not la, or thank God I wasn't there. It's like you thank your lucky star when you get a notification that it wasn't you, because you know it could

[Barbie Ferreira]

be and you get scared.

[Grace]

You ever had the app, Citizen? Yeah, I can't have it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, can't have it.

[Gabby]

I turned off my notifications and it's much better because I'm nosy.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Like, if something were to go around, around, then I'll look it up. I never find anything. Yeah.

[Grace]

I. Citizen. I think during the pandemic, I downloaded

[Barbie Ferreira]

it and just caused, like, a psychosis in me where I was like, man with machete, 10ft away all the time.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I was very. It was very scary. I, like, I had to, like, not go on. Citizens. I'd rather not know what's going on. And I get, like, the helicopters around me and I'm like, none of my business, Gary. None of my business.

[Gabby]

Yeah, let's hope and pray it's not coming after me.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I hope not. Oh, yeah. I'm like, outside like hell.

[Gabby]

Because it could be like, I didn't do it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I didn't do it, I swear. Canada is really funny because it's like just a sweet. Like, it's like the. Like, if there's like a little devil and an angel, it's like us. The little devil and the angel on your shoulder is Canada is so true. Yeah.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Have you been to Toronto?

[Grace]

I did for the movie for a couple of days. It was actually my first time in Toronto.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God, I love it. They have the best shopping. The best vintage shopping. It's cute.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Gabby]

Good coffee, good food. Everything's like. Just doesn't have, you know, whatever. Whatever pesticides or the GMOs. Whatever the.

[Grace]

That's where I see. That's. When I was in Toronto, I remember being. I was in the bath and I

[Barbie Ferreira]

had a really long day. I was like, I'm gonna order some McDonald's.

[Grace]

And it didn't hit.

[Gabby]

Yeah, no, that's. No, we're like, we need that.

[Grace]

I need the Red 40.

[Gabby]

Yeah, it was.

[Barbie Ferreira]

There was clearly no Red 40 in it. I could tell by the look of it. I'm like, something's off.

[Grace]

This looks too natural.

[Gabby]

My hot Cheetos are, like, pink.

[Grace]

They're like a natural maroon it's like

[Barbie Ferreira]

a dusty, like I'm like a cayenne color.

[Grace]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I want. And I, I honestly, whenever I leave the country, I do feel the lack of red 40. Yeah, know I do. I'm like, good. Like I need a little hit of a red 40 here and there.

[Gabby]

No, it's like a drug.

[Grace]

Of course it didn't comfort me without the red 40. And I remember being in the bath eating my nuggets and just being like this doesn't really.

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[Gabby]

do you like to eat in the bath?

[Grace]

I love to eat in the bath. If I'm stressed, I'll eat in the bath. That's super fun.

[Gabby]

Do you like watch TV in the bath?

[Grace]

I don't ever. I'll do like a meditation on the bath and I'll just have like sound bowl And I'm just sitting there. They're like.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Or I'm just scrolling through TikTok.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Literally, I'm like, I'm gonna take a 20 minute bath. Like, five minutes later, I'm like, I gotta get outta here.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm literally looking up what that lady did, the nurse did for hours in the bathtub.

[Gabby]

And then I'm like, you're pruning when you get out. You're like, but I know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I now know.

[Gabby]

I know she's innocent.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I solved it. You guys. I love solving things. I will watch a documentary. Like, I got it. Like, y' all just ask me.

[Gabby]

Oh, yeah. No, And I'm righteous about it. I'm like, actually, I do know the right answer and here's the receipts. Yeah. And I don't take anything out else.

[Grace]

Well, yeah, that's like the whole point, right? So, like, I love, like an online sleuth.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I like, think if I had more time, I'd probably be solving more crimes online.

[Gabby]

What's your, like, favorite crime?

[Barbie Ferreira]

My favorite cr.

[Grace]

I also, I always think it's really fun when people just disappear.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Because what happened?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Right?

[Gabby]

Where did they go?

[Grace]

Where did they go? They were like. There's like this, like, famous, like, story.

[Gabby]

I love those.

[Grace]

Like, she's hiking and then. This is the last image you've ever seen of her?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, what? Like Bigfoot is real?

[Grace]

Literally, Bigfoot took her. There's that one where they were all in the mountain. I think it was like maybe like 12 Russian people. And then they all, like, randomly.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Half of them disappeared and they all died. But it was like, really, like they were naked, like, you know, half a mile away from the tent. Like, what happened?

[Grace]

No blood. Like, what. What could have occurred?

[Barbie Ferreira]

They think it's like psychosis from being too cold.

[Grace]

Oh, that kind of shit I eat up.

[Gabby]

Yeah, that kind of shit. My favorite.

[Grace]

It's my fucking favorite.

[Gabby]

Have you seen the one where this girl disappeared from the cruise? No. I love that.

[Grace]

Oh, so many witnesses, but no one knows where.

[Gabby]

Yes. Also on Netflix. You should watch. It's crazy, but it's pretty clear she was sex trafficked. Yeah.

[Grace]

Like, taken style. Oh, that's like, scary. That's so scary.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Did she go with her family?

[Gabby]

She went with her family. And then, like, the dad Woke up at 3:00am and, like, the brother was in bed, but she wasn't and her shirt was there and they couldn't find her. Ugh. But I forget because somehow she got off on a stop.

[Grace]

She got off on a stop and never came Back to the cruise.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes.

[Gabby]

But they like, they were looking, looking, looking. So this is like over years. And then finally they. I don't know, they got some kind of a tip to the island that she was at. And they had a website, these sex tracks.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Wait, I do.

[Grace]

I did.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I watched so much stuff. Yes.

[Gabby]

And it was her.

[Grace]

And they're trying to find the IP address and like, that she was there. Oh my.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I did watch it. I'm getting chills.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's all coming back to me.

[Grace]

I watch too much stuff and thus I forget. And I'm also. Me smoking weed.

[Gabby]

No, me too. I can never remember anything. I'm like, sorry, baby.

[Grace]

I have watched a movie 30 minutes and been like, oh, my God.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I've seen.

[Gabby]

Takes that long to realize, whoa, this is familiar. I can predict every single thing.

[Grace]

I know this one because of the IP address.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And it was like online and the

[Grace]

family never stopped looking and was like, have you seen this woman? Have you seen this woman? I recall, I recall.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, my God, I'm getting chills.

[Gabby]

Yeah, but there was like a number on this sex. Sex trafficking website and they didn't call, right? Or maybe, maybe they did and it was just like, cut out.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It was just like.

[Gabby]

Yeah, it didn't lead anywhere. But it's like there was a phone number. Like, did you call.

[Grace]

But did you call. Did you call from a different number and like called from multiple numbers? See, what's up? Like, why is there a number on the sex trafficking website? For like sex trafficking, I assume, right?

[Gabby]

Just on a website. Can you do that?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Just openly like this?

[Gabby]

I don't think, like, I mean, you can assume the girls are sex trafficked, but I guess it's just like, yeah, like a prostitution website. But is it legal to do that online?

[Grace]

No, but I think, yeah, she wasn't in the US right? She was somewhere they like.

[Gabby]

Yeah. So maybe that's it.

[Grace]

I, like, a mystery is always just

[Gabby]

so it is because it's like real life.

[Grace]

Because you'll never know the answer. And that's always fun. It's like when you like have, like when you can like really like, think about. I actually got into a rabbit hole. This might be like super like left

[Barbie Ferreira]

field, but I got into a rabbit

[Grace]

hole about these, this podcast that I started listening to. And this is like outside of. It's outside of my, my knowledge of scope of anything, but it's about like basically talking about how a lot of people are non verbal.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[Gabby]

I think I'm a Witch. I knew you were gonna talk about that one.

[Grace]

And that they are like magical beings.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Grace]

And then I, I by myself was

[Gabby]

like, this is so incredible.

[Grace]

Like, I'm listening to this podcast. I'm like, oh my gosh.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Grace]

People have this incredible, like, third eye. They like, are, you know, reading minds. I then go down this rabbit hole.

[Gabby]

She's a scammer.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's.

[Grace]

Oh. And it's been since the beginning of time, they've been like, my child is the next coming of Jesus. And this is what. And it's not conscious. It's a subconscious thing. And it was the most interesting thing I've ever.

[Gabby]

Wait, so it was saying that, like, the parents think that like, of their child.

[Grace]

Well, the mystery is still there. Are they reading minds or not?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Probably not.

[Grace]

But the idea is that it's never been been studied because the caretaker is always in the room.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Exactly.

[Grace]

And you can give kind of small signs of things.

[Gabby]

It's not like, objective. There's bias everywhere. And obviously as a caretaker, you have a better relationship with the non verbal child. So they're gonna look at you, you're gonna understand what they're saying.

[Grace]

You're gonna mind.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Grace]

Subconscious. I don't think the caretakers are like

[Barbie Ferreira]

necessarily trying to scam people, but they're.

[Grace]

It's like a subconscious shame.

[Gabby]

She's a scammer. The one who did. Who like, narrated the podcast.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

She's not even a doctor and she rich as hell. Oh my God. She funded this study. And like, the guy that she had interviewing was like the videographer and using him as a witness.

[Grace]

I bought the videos.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The Raw foot. I like, literally was like, I gotta investigate this. Because I was like, this is too good to be true.

[Grace]

I used to it. I bought into it. I was like, this is. And I watched the videos, I watched the document. I was like, oh my gosh, this is incredible. Like, how are we not talking about this? It's actually a way of abusing people who are non. I went down like a crazy rabbit

[Barbie Ferreira]

hole and it really, like, told me

[Grace]

about the human psyche and how subconscious

[Barbie Ferreira]

things can really happen when it, when two people are really close. And I just thought it was like the most interesting thing. I literally bought. I spent like $10 to, to like, watch all the tapes. I was like, they are in the room. They are in the room. They're right there. Oh my God.

[Grace]

They're not outside the room. And like, it slowly unraveled. And then I went down this Reddit thread about how like, this has Been happening since like ancient times where, you know, people have been like, this is,

[Barbie Ferreira]

is like an oracle, right?

[Grace]

Like, this person, like, my daughter's an oracle.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And it's really just a subconscious kind of almost like Ouija board effect. So I thought that was a pretty interesting mystery.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

That I thought was like real, like

[Grace]

about the human brain.

[Gabby]

Right, the brain. No, I didn't read that part or like hear that part, but that makes sense.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm so down. Me in the bath, just like going down, just like figuring out like, you know, really deep psychiatry theory.

[Gabby]

So told you will not get out.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, that one. Like, still. I still think about it.

[Gabby]

I'm like, wow. Yeah, Well, I did like, right when it first came out, I feel like everyone was talking about it. And then you got to episode like three or four and you're like, this seems weird things a little off. Right.

[Grace]

And it was kind of like, almost like it was like exploitative in a little bit. And I kind of. I started picking up on that because I was really into it and I was like, this is so wonderful.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And like, I thought it was like

[Grace]

a really scientific, scientifically based podcast. And then being like me down the Reddit threads, being like, I've been lied to.

[Gabby]

Right? No, literally.

[Grace]

It's even more complicated than that. It's not that I've been lied to. It's like everyone's living in this reality that is being constructed by very vulnerable people. It just honestly was a really interesting. I've never thought of it like that and I love, like, I really thought

[Barbie Ferreira]

it was really interesting.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Well, and if, you know, if you're non verbal, it's not like you can consent to something like this or like be able to say your piece and like what you think about it. So to your point. Yeah. Like, it's is exploitative.

[Grace]

It's extreme. I mean, I think since the beginning of time, it's been like a method of. It's just interesting that humans will always

[Barbie Ferreira]

have this, like, kind of. We all kind of do the similar things just in different societies.

[Grace]

And like even having like an oracle

[Barbie Ferreira]

or like a psychic and having that

[Grace]

and being kind of like, you know, these magical thinking thoughts are just really. I mean, I bought it.

[Gabby]

Yeah. No, I feel like everybody, like my friend was just listening to it and she. What is it called? I need to tell people. The telepathy tapes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The telepathy tapes, yes.

[Gabby]

Was just listening to it. She was like, this is so crazy. You have to listen. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You Listen up here.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And I still don't think she believed me, but a lot of people don't. Yeah. Because it is. It's something like. Like you said, there's so much history, maybe a subconscious way to it like, that you want to believe it.

[Grace]

You don't want to believe someone is doing that.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's the same thing like Munchausen by Proxy.

[Grace]

You don't want to believe. But the thing is, like, you know, people are so complicated.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And that's what I find really interesting in the world is like, that's why

[Grace]

I crime podcast and just like, kind of like even. Or watch. Listen to them and watch like, true crime documentaries and stuff like that. Because I think that, like, there's so much capacity and such in. In human world for things that we don't even, like, register because it's like billions of people and they all have their own lives. It's like how people react to how they're. They're raised or their circumstance.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Very interesting.

[Gabby]

Yes. That's why I like Housewives.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Exactly. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Gabby]

I feel like it's an.

[Grace]

It's an analog anthropological analysis, right?

[Gabby]

Yes. Of each personal. Like how you interact together. Then you learn about your backstory. It's like, okay, it's obvious. Like, you learn about their bad relationship. It's like, this is why you're acting like this.

[Grace]

And then you like reality shows. The, like, they like. It's like an experiment of, like, what happens when you put people without their, like, loved ones or any contact and

[Barbie Ferreira]

just pump them with dreams.

[Gabby]

Right. Literally. And stir the pot behind the scenes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Just literally serving them one other martini and just see what happens on camera. I mean, I love.

[Grace]

Because it is kind of like. I mean, it's just such a fun thing to watch because it's like real.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, even though I know producers obviously are like, whispering people's ears. I guess, like, because I'm in showbiz, I can kind of see through that and see the reality of what's happening.

[Grace]

But I just think it's so interesting.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I've always been really attracted to that, like vlogs and people who make like,

[Grace]

long form vlogs on YouTube. I could sit and watch. I'm dead like a Trisha Paytas. I grew up watching just like 45 minutes of her, like, sitting on the kitchen floor and just like, analyzing the human condition.

[Gabby]

No, she's amazing. I was just. Well, I did watch the first episode of Euphoria.

[Grace]

Oh, did you?

[Gabby]

I haven't Seen it yet.

[Grace]

I haven't seen it yet.

[Gabby]

Oh, well, then I don't know if I'll tell you, but something reminded me of Trisha Paytas. I know she's.

[Grace]

I think she's in the season.

[Gabby]

She's in it, but this was. Well, I guess they don't have. Anyways, did you know?

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like, I didn't watch it yet.

[Gabby]

I know. Speaking of Trisha Paytas, but did you know that she was, like, used to be, like, kind of a superhero on Hollywood Boulevard?

[Barbie Ferreira]

I did.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Right. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She's mentioned.

[Gabby]

Explain to people who don't.

[Grace]

I know Lore.

[Gabby]

Yes. Who don't know everything. It's like, no. She's been in every.

[Grace]

America's Got Talent.

[Gabby]

Yes. Big Brother.

[Grace]

She was in not Intervention. Like my crazy. Was it Obsession 1.

[Gabby]

Oh, right. To tanning. The tanning. Right. Was it tanning? It was tanning. Okay.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She.

[Gabby]

Wow. Yeah. She did it all to, like, try and break through, and here she is.

[Grace]

She's now she's like a mom and, like, all these things that she's doing really well. I've been following her for so long that it's like. I know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, I, like, frequently have had nights where I'm like, are you familiar, Paytas? No.

[Grace]

Let me show you.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'll take you through a journey through YouTube videos. I'm like, let's first start at the reality shows. And this is like.

[Grace]

And the ones she was just, like, out there, like, hundreds of them. I think she was just, like, doing, like, little guest spots on, like, America's Got Talent or, like, whatever and, like, random stuff. So she was always just like. She wasn't like, nathan for you episode, was she?

[Gabby]

Yes, she was. Oh, my God, yes, she was. Wait. Iconic.

[Grace]

She's incredible. She really working and, like, you know, so.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I. I've watched hours of her just sitting around talking. She's a fabulously entertaining woman.

[Gabby]

She really is. And she talks a mile a minute. And she's like, like, she's a. I mean, not only does she talk fast, but she's like, a good talker and, like, a good conversationalist.

[Grace]

I like that she's so earnestly herself, and I hate when people have, like, a bit and, like, you could just

[Barbie Ferreira]

tell this is really who she is.

[Gabby]

No.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah. As a longtime fan and lover of Trisha, like, this is who she is, and I respect it. Even if, like, you know, maybe it's not, like, the best choice. It's like, I.

[Grace]

The domino, like, remember, like, domino.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'M like, oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense.

[Gabby]

Yes. And she had been dying for a Domino's.

[Grace]

Like, she's gonna dress up as the employee. Why? We don't know.

[Gabby]

No, we don't.

[Grace]

We don't know.

[Gabby]

But those little bits are so good.

[Grace]

Yeah. And I love watching her in her car and same.

[Gabby]

Her original mukbangs and, like. Yeah. Embed at night. Yes. Well, back to my line, kid.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Gabby]

I. I loved. Wait, what. What was her name? My memory. What was your name?

[Grace]

My name is Grace.

[Gabby]

Grace. That's what I thought. I like. She. I feel like you wouldn't expect it maybe going in, but it was, like, quite feminist.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Loved. Naturally. Yeah. I'm like, if she wasn't, like, so obsessed with these, like, D squad boys, she could have been a lesbian.

[Grace]

She. I think that that may be the future for her is to understand that, like, she just kind of is only

[Barbie Ferreira]

to them because they're cool and they. She wants that and she doesn't really know what she's attracted to.

[Gabby]

I loved the part where you were like, do you think, like, you just want to date someone? A band, or do you want to, like, be the guy in the band?

[Grace]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gabby]

I feel like that's a very gay thought, you know? It is kind of. Yes. Like gender expression. Like, which one do you kind of

[Grace]

want to be just, like, tearing through

[Barbie Ferreira]

Montreal with her French Canadian, like a butch girlfriend? I want it.

[Gabby]

Literally. She was making me so nervous, though, Grace. I'm like, you have to make some money.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She, like, oh, and she won't.

[Gabby]

No, not at all. I mean, it's like, I didn't expect. Well, which. How much are we allowed to talk about it?

[Grace]

I mean, a little.

[Gabby]

Right, right, right.

[Grace]

Let's talk about it.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I didn't expect her to, like, whatever, lose the book deal. I thought she was really gonna do it.

[Grace]

Well, I. I think that I thought

[Gabby]

that she did hurt.

[Grace]

I did want her. It's like, it sucks because I really

[Barbie Ferreira]

did want her to finish a book and because that was her passion. But it is, like, so real to

[Grace]

be so distracted by absolute garbage. I mean, you look at that. It's like, I felt so, like, when I read it, I felt so, like,

[Barbie Ferreira]

gross and funny at the same time. Cause I'm like, these sex scenes are so real in a bad way, literally. It just really shows how bad of a decision Grace is making. And I hope that that's a reflection, because we all are, like, idiots. I guess so. Including me.

[Gabby]

We've all been there, though.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Babe, we've all been there.

[Gabby]

No, like, waking up. Yes, well. And waking up next to someone who you're like, oh, like that Chev. What was his Chevy? I'm like, he's gay, isn't he?

[Grace]

He might be gay.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

I think he has a lot to figure out and.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, I know he has a lot

[Grace]

to figure out and people.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Stanley does such a good job at playing this character. I think he's like, so good. Crazy boyish charm and just like the

[Grace]

guitar, but then also, like, in the kind of leading her on. But like. Right. It's one of those situations where you. When someone is so desperate that they can't see the truth and they're just trying to force something. And like, every hint of the way, every step of the way, he's been hinting that this is not it for him.

[Gabby]

No. He's treating her like shit. Yes. She just, like, wants any kind of peace. It's like. Well, I guess I. Oh. Because he said he was celibate because the herpes.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I mean, at the end, it was like our love story.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

But also I'm like, you can take meds for that.

[Grace]

Yeah. And literally, I'm like, yes, he can.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And yes, he can. And he didn't.

[Grace]

And.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And it was. I feel so bad for Devin. He had to, like, walk around with that, like.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

It's like a time. It's not a great look.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Grace]

No, but he just sold it. Sweetheart. Rom com.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Grace]

Hero.

[Gabby]

No, it was amazing. It wasn't what I thought it was going to be at all. Really?

[Grace]

What do you think it was going to be?

[Gabby]

Alanis Morset.

[Grace]

No. That's funny because so many people were

[Barbie Ferreira]

like, Barbie Ferreira, like, stars in Atlantis movie. They're like, you're playing Atlantis more set. You can't sing. I'm like, oh, no.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, no.

[Gabby]

No.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Actually not.

[Grace]

What's going on?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes.

[Gabby]

Like, to get you there.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's just like Alanis is her punk. Like, not she's a pop iconic, but, like, her, like, feminist icon is Alanis. And that's like the driving force of

[Grace]

her going and being herself in, like, a creative city and then losing it to, like, gross dudes.

[Gabby]

Oh, God. But it's like you have to go through that to learn. Because also, what. The monologue at the end was so good about the semicircle.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

It's like, it's such a good visual. And again, we've all been there.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And it's like, it's the worst feeling in the world because you Feel like you're not being listened to, Nobody cares about you. But I'm like, at this point, like, I just keep myself so far away from the semicircle. Like, I see dudes and run the other way.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Me too.

[Grace]

Historically, like, historically, I just. I grew up with all women. I really don't know how to interact

[Barbie Ferreira]

with a lot of guys.

[Grace]

And the guys that I do interact with are like hyper specific. Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

They like, are like, you know, they like the guys that I do see and that I do allow. And first of all, I give them

[Grace]

a hard time all the time and

[Barbie Ferreira]

then they love it. Of course.

[Gabby]

No, but it's like, if you have like a guy friend, you have to tease them a little bit. Like, I know what you're thinking.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's.

[Grace]

You gotta be. You gotta be like, you gotta like,

[Barbie Ferreira]

let them know their place, like a little bit as a man in the girly group. Because there are guys who are like, like really? I mean, Isaiah, who's staying with me, who's in the movie, he is like the perfect example.

[Gabby]

Like, which one is he?

[Grace]

Isaiah's the drummer, the gay guy.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But he's not really gay. And I'm sorry not to, you know, ruin the illusion, but not to ruin

[Grace]

the illusion, but he is like, so that, like I. Him and the girls just.

[Gabby]

It's.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's the gays girls in Isaiah.

[Grace]

He says it all time.

[Gabby]

I love it.

[Grace]

Special person.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Grace]

So cool.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like my favorite. I love Isaiah so much.

[Gabby]

No, it's the best. We kind of have a friend like that too. It's like. Okay, I get it. You are like one of the girls, like, really, right? It's like, you're not like, creepy. You're not like, you can just like kick it and hang and like, you actually appreciate women.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, no, he like, he like literally, like knows like Cat's Eye songs. It's like, it's like the interests are like, oh. Like the kind of guys that are in my life. I'm like, oh, you, like, have a similar interests and. And. And sensibilities as me as a woman. So.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I love it. Yeah, you can hang.

[Grace]

I'm like, we can go, like, listen to Zara Larson. Like, you know, I mean, they're like

[Barbie Ferreira]

into it and it's not even performatively. It's just who they are.

[Gabby]

Yeah. He could be gay maybe.

[Grace]

Maybe.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But he's got.

[Grace]

He's got his little wife, so it's like.

[Gabby]

Yeah. And it's like culture, like, I appreciate when culturally clear, like. Yes. In the culture. Because then we have something to talk about. Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Or else I'm like, like the big game. I don't know what you guys gambling?

[Grace]

Yes, Gambling On. On. On, like who's going to win the game.

[Gabby]

Literally all it is is games.

[Grace]

It's just gambling.

[Gabby]

It's baseball, maybe basketball and football.

[Grace]

It's crazy. Men are gambling at everything too. Like.

[Gabby]

Yeah, I.

[Grace]

It's something that is like going. They need to like, talk amongst themselves because I can't, I can't.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I can't imagine anyone's of making any money.

[Gabby]

No. And like, I. I know it's an addiction, but it's like how spending money is.

[Grace]

Your addiction is crazy.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Right?

[Gabby]

I mean, I'm a shopaholic. Maybe, but it's like, maybe that's like, it's not losing it. I feel like I get something out of return every single time I don't pay some, like a store money. And you're like, maybe you're gonna get a bag. Maybe, maybe not.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, I love it.

[Gabby]

It's like, hell, no, that's not fun for me.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I grew up with a grandma who loved a slot machine.

[Gabby]

Oh, okay. My grandma too.

[Grace]

Oh.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And that to me is the perfect kind of gambling.

[Gabby]

I agree.

[Grace]

I want to sit down. I want and I do it like I to Vegas twice in my life. I've gambled maybe three times my whole life.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And it's just me sitting at the thought machine pressing a button and losing all my money.

[Grace]

But you guys, I cannot even imagine

[Barbie Ferreira]

what it's like to go into a table and put it all on something. I don't even know what the words are.

[Grace]

But the guys aren't even gambling on games anymore. They're gambling on, like, will it rain tomorrow?

[Gabby]

No. Anything.

[Grace]

They will literally gamble on that. And I respect it. But I'm also just like, what are your wives? What's happening with the wives? The girlfriends. They're the ones that are taking the L. Yeah.

[Gabby]

I mean, that's coming out of her, like, self care. That's coming out of her Botox. That's coming out of her nails. Yeah, that's coming out. Nails are expensive, right? They're so expensive. I have to go on and off. I'm like, if I get my nails done again, like, if I get these off and get. Then I have to like, go back again. That's the problem.

[Grace]

You gotta keep going.

[Gabby]

Are we gambling?

[Grace]

We are gambling. I gotta go get my lash lift every three weeks. Yeah.

[Gabby]

I mean, do you like a lash lift?

[Grace]

I've been back in My lash lift game.

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Grace]

Mostly. Cause I just love the place.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Cause it's so cute.

[Gabby]

Do you have it right now?

[Grace]

I do.

[Gabby]

Can I see?

[Grace]

But I have a little mascara on.

[Gabby]

Love, love, love.

[Grace]

I had to put those sunglasses on for you. But I have a little lash lift. And that's just my vibes. So I guess we are gambling.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

But I think, no, the service.

[Gabby]

You feel good, and that's how I'd like to spend all my money.

[Barbie Ferreira]

To make you feel good.

[Gabby]

Yes. Self care.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I could walk around. I want a keratin treatment. Oh, I want one, too.

[Grace]

I've been looking into it. Hair Botox. What's that?

[Gabby]

Yeah, what is that? I don't know.

[Grace]

They call it hair Botox.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God. See, they know how to market. Yeah. They're like, it's like $400 to, like, I don't know, make your hair smooth. And I guess it dries faster. It's like, maybe I won't. But, like, if I get a pay. If I get a good paycheck, I probably will.

[Grace]

Every time I get a good paycheck, I buy myself a bag.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Grace]

That's, like, my favorite thing. Even if I, like, I've never bought, like, a really super fancy car, like jewelry. I can't do jewelry because I lose it.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

But I will.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I love fashion.

[Grace]

I love a shoe at a bag.

[Gabby]

No, I know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I know you do, too.

[Grace]

I will spend.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, I remember I was, like, asking my friends, like, how much is the most you'll spend on a bag? And I was asking, like, people were like, in the healthcare industry, like, girls

[Grace]

who, like, are more influencers, like, asking

[Barbie Ferreira]

a bunch of people. And so we were like, 200 bucks. And then my other friends will be like, any amount for the bag. We don't care.

[Grace]

No if it's a cute bag.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I'm like, unfortunately, that's my mindset as well.

[Gabby]

It's like, do we need Birkins? I don't know. But, like, what about the small one?

[Barbie Ferreira]

The small Birkin is cute. I think it's.

[Grace]

The smaller it is, the more expensive it is.

[Gabby]

Yeah. I think, like, Kylie Jenner has, like. Remember she had that yellow Birkin that she put on top of her head? And it was silly.

[Barbie Ferreira]

She's so crazy. She can't take her nowhere.

[Gabby]

And it was like, $60,000 on her.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I love that. I. I love.

[Gabby]

I feel. I'm gonna check the time, but I feel like I could do this all day.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I love chatting with you.

[Gabby]

I know. But. Yeah. What Kind of like, do you have, like, a bag that you want now?

[Grace]

My last big bag purchase was a Chloe bag. That's like my airport bag. It's like, she's big, she's boho. She has, like, a couple charms on her.

[Gabby]

She's brown, cute.

[Grace]

She's like, not like the other girl. She's not the Paddington. She's the other one. I don't know her name, but she's just a little different.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Right now I want. I want new shoes. But I always want new shoes.

[Gabby]

Yes. Yeah. What kind of shoe? I don't know. Well, it's like, so you can't. When you see them, I.

[Barbie Ferreira]

You got to think, right, a lot

[Grace]

of times, like, I'll be styled in them.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I'm like, wait, these are meant for me. Like, these are mine. Right? And then, like, sometimes I don't get

[Grace]

them, but sometimes I do. What's fun. Thanks. Chris Ran.

[Barbie Ferreira]

He.

[Grace]

I see your style.

[Gabby]

He's so good.

[Grace]

He's amazing, right?

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes.

[Grace]

Chris, so much. That is like, my king. I've, like, they've been working with him

[Barbie Ferreira]

for, like, eight years. Like, my entire career being styled has been with him.

[Grace]

So just.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's so fun that I get to like.

[Gabby]

Yes. Because he styles, like, all the cool girls.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Star girly.

[Grace]

I mean, it's like Christina Aguilera.

[Gabby]

You do Christina Aguilera?

[Grace]

Oh, my God, we do Adela. We're on to. Oh, Adela. Yeah.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

I'm loving the pop girly. Slater did it. Did you see the Slater?

[Gabby]

I didn't watch.

[Grace]

She good? She's really good. I love her new album. She, like, did a crazy coachella's at like 3pm where everyone was fucking going insane.

[Gabby]

And I saw the video. But, like, what's her. Is her music kind of country?

[Grace]

No, no, no, not at all.

[Gabby]

Thank God.

[Grace]

It's like hyper pop, like sex pop, sexy, like, kind of like 2003. Like, really fun. I think some of it is, like, it's giving like a little Britney. It's giving a little Madonna. It's giving, like, kind of hyper pop to it. She's good, honestly.

[Barbie Ferreira]

But I just want her set from afar because I didn't go to Coachella. I just was there. Wait, I was there and I left.

[Gabby]

You were at Coachella?

[Grace]

Well, I was around the area.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I was in India and I went somewhere and then I went home. I didn't even go to the festival because I was like, it's a big weekend for me. I, like, I don't need to be Seeing I don't need to be walking around.

[Gabby]

No.

[Barbie Ferreira]

My feet are going to hurt.

[Gabby]

What do you wear? What do you even wear when you leave Coachella?

[Grace]

Why is it three hours?

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

If it was easy, if I could just go in and out, right? That would be so easy. I. I will go for. I went for Lana and I was happy to have my feet hurt for hours.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Happy to do it.

[Gabby]

Right. Wor it worth it?

[Grace]

Went with my bestie, who's also like, a huge Lana fan. Happy to do it. But, like, if it's not for me, it's like, that's like my big one.

[Gabby]

So totally. If it's not Lana, it's bust.

[Grace]

It's kind of like, okay, I'd rather just get tickets to a smaller, like, venue and not have to deal with coming out anyway. I'll be being party pooper.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I also, like, had.

[Gabby]

I'm the same way. I'm like, I will never go to Coachella. We were so close to. We weren't that close to going.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Kind of like maybe toying with the idea that maybe one day I'll go to Coachella.

[Grace]

Be cool.

[Gabby]

Robbie wanted to go to Justin Bieber, so I do love Bieber, but it's like now it's like, who needs to go to Coachella when the cinematography is so good on YouTube?

[Barbie Ferreira]

That's what I'm saying.

[Grace]

You can watch this streaming live. Yeah, I would love to have been.

[Gabby]

I remember watching Lana streaming live a couple years ago. It was not as, like, the actual whatever, like, picture wasn't as good on her as it is now.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, they like, locked in. They like, figured out how to make it look cinematic so everyone can watch from home. I like.

[Grace]

Yeah, I've been really a late in life Belieber. I like.

[Gabby]

Okay, yeah, I do kind of thing.

[Grace]

I like Justin Bieber. I really like him now.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Ever since, like, the Grammys performance and like, just swag in general, I've been like, oh. I'm like, I'm understanding what's going on here. This is cool.

[Gabby]

Yes. No, because also, it's like people were complaining about his set. Whatever, whatever. But we haven't really seen, like, we've known him for so long. He's not gonna dance around like he used to.

[Grace]

I don't want that from him.

[Gabby]

No. Because now he's a man. Yeah. Like, now he's a dad.

[Grace]

Grown ass man should not be dancing

[Barbie Ferreira]

and singing like that. No.

[Gabby]

If he's doing, like, whatever. Not the running man or whatever. Any kind of like a moonwalk. Dance move.

[Grace]

Yeah, like no, like, like he's also like in a swag sexy era wife and kid. Like he's a grown ass man.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Grace]

I also want to see. I really liked him just like on the, with the like loop machine or whatever you call it. Just like making. I thought that was really cool. I know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm.

[Gabby]

I loved his YouTube DJ set.

[Grace]

It's great.

[Gabby]

Died for it.

[Grace]

Love it.

[Gabby]

Yeah. I rather that we were all like in the living room getting high and he was. Was picking the music naturally. All about himself. He would only pick his music videos in the living room.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's like gay guy music video night. I love gay guy music video night. It's like a whole thing the Internet created where it is true. It feels like the girls and the gays, we all like hungry and we just watch music videos.

[Gabby]

No, I love it. That's what I only want to do when I pull over. Yeah, but they're like watch music videos. I'm like, yeah, like we all sing together and we all like watch our

[Barbie Ferreira]

favorite music videos and it's fun.

[Grace]

And we're like watching, watching like you know like we're watching like Christina Aguilera and like ballads about.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Like yes. We're.

[Barbie Ferreira]

We're going to the greatest hits. Like Gwen Stefani.

[Gabby]

I feel like Despacito. One billion views and counting.

[Grace]

We're music video night is good and I'm glad that Justin Bieber took that and made it into a headlining Coachella.

[Gabby]

Honestly.

[Grace]

Hell yeah.

[Gabby]

Yeah. And maybe he's the only one that could get away with it. But it's like that's because it's Justin Bieber.

[Grace]

He has so much lore.

[Gabby]

He.

[Barbie Ferreira]

He has.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Grace]

He has the career to back it up also.

[Gabby]

Poor thing.

[Grace]

I feel like he's so young, just getting like over like all the time on the Internet. People were like, you look a lesbian. Like I know that.

[Gabby]

I know. I had like. I always thought he was just so hot. Yeah, he was a cute guy. Because I didn't know what a lesbian was back then. Here I am, full blown Les.

[Barbie Ferreira]

We all find out one day, baby.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Maybe that's why I liked him so much. Apparently he's a lesbian icon.

[Barbie Ferreira]

He is.

[Grace]

And that was like a big thing at the.

[Gabby]

At that time.

[Grace]

And they were like be so medium.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Just being like, just like trying to like be. And he was like what, 16 years old?

[Gabby]

Right. And he never read is like gay to me. No, like even though not at all. Yes. Again came from nothing. He was, he's so Good at like soccer, skateboarding, instruments. He's just a really talented guy. So, you know, like, the way he dresses, that's just like him. He's not like trying to be anything because that's all he knew.

[Grace]

And like, you can see him like, grow. And like, I love seeing someone's like, long form career that like, is evolving at all times. And like, we get to like, follow with him. I don't even know how old he is, but, like, I'm probably a similar age to him, so it's just like

[Barbie Ferreira]

interesting to see and like, I don't know.

[Grace]

I'm a big believer now. The hate was so forced, you guys. The hate was forced.

[Gabby]

No, literally, it's the same thing with Chapel Roan. It's forced up now. We can't just be happy for anybody.

[Grace]

No, we can't. And it's, I think it's just been a long, like it's always been like that. It's like always like, let's tear on whoever is doing the best.

[Gabby]

And I'm like, you're on top. You're done.

[Grace]

We all have to be off to open our eyes to that propaganda, people,

[Barbie Ferreira]

the people of the world.

[Grace]

Like, we have to open our eyes to the propaganda of like hating someone just, just because they're really big right now. I'm like, right. Like, we had to have some discernment.

[Gabby]

I agree. He deserves it. I mean, especially like now that we all know his history.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And like, you know, he wants to be a different person now. It's like there's, you can tell before whatever the little music video part, like there was. He wants to make a separation between his past and now.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And I think, imagine being a teenager.

[Grace]

Imagine being a teenager and you're Justin Bieber. You're a teen, you're a teenager. You're gonna, you're like learning about, like, you're like going through puberty and you're learning about yourself and like having some

[Gabby]

managing music contracts, like people taking advantage of you.

[Grace]

Oh, hell no. Like being a teenager who's famous, I like, I really don't envy anyone who

[Barbie Ferreira]

has like that kind of vibe because it really, I, I, it's, it's hard. And I think kids shouldn't be famous because just.

[Gabby]

I agree. Look at our child stars. Look at All Amanda by like.

[Grace]

And some of them are really good. Some of them really do kind of slay.

[Gabby]

And I like Ariana Grande. Like, I feel like barely made it out.

[Grace]

You're just, you're set up for failure.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Straight Up.

[Grace]

You're, like, starting to set up. You're set up for failure. And that's the problem, is that you don't have any guidance. And it's hard to be an adult and famous. I can't imagine being Justin bieber at, like, 15 and the whole world just staring at you and, like, watch you

[Barbie Ferreira]

make mistakes at 15, 16 years old.

[Gabby]

You're like, yes. Yeah. So true. And people are telling you what to do and you, like, don't want to make anyone mad, so you just agree.

[Grace]

Because you're a kid.

[Gabby]

Right?

[Grace]

Kids can't make decisions. No, famously, we don't let them.

[Barbie Ferreira]

We don't let kids. Don't let kids make decisions ever. They're like, literally. Because they can't and they shouldn't.

[Grace]

So why are they, like big pop stars? I mean, listen, I. I get it. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a child star. I'm so happy I didn't have a job when I was 10.

[Gabby]

Yeah, you tried really hard, though.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I did. I tried really hard. It was like a universe being like, please.

[Gabby]

Yes. That's why I try not to beg for anything too much.

[Grace]

Because you don't know, right?

[Gabby]

Because I don't want to wish something bad upon myself.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I never manifest specific things that are like, project based or, like, specific event based because I'm scared that if I manifest it and it happens, it wasn't meant to be. It's like, bad.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Does that make sense?

[Gabby]

No, Total. Like, I have an audition out kind of right now, and I'm like, oh. Which they just don't let you know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, they know.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I stopped asking.

[Gabby]

I know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I actually now in my career, I have literally stopped asking about auditions. I used to be like, so how did that.

[Grace]

I just stopped.

[Gabby]

Everybody stops asking. But now I did it once, and now that it's like, okay, well, no,

[Barbie Ferreira]

you really want it.

[Gabby]

You're like, I know, but I was gonna be like, let me know if there's anything I could do. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. If it's supposed to happen, it's gonna happen. Because I don't want to wish anything bad upon myself. If it's not supposed to be, be mine. Like, it's not. And that's okay. I'll just be broke for another six months maybe. Which it's like, I'm not broke, but I'm putting.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm putting my spiritually broke.

[Grace]

Where you're like, what is next?

[Barbie Ferreira]

We live in a career where it's not like, we, like, have salaries that we can like.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Barbie Ferreira]

With healthcare. And it's like, you have to continuously be reinventing yourself, Especially in this world.

[Grace]

You're, like, relevant one day, the next day you're chopped liver, and people don't even recall you.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, they'll just, like, you know.

[Grace]

And so it's, like, such a hard industry to navigate. And I think that, like, people don't

[Barbie Ferreira]

understand that a lot of actors and a lot of musicians actually aren't making as much money as they think.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby]

I did my first whatever, like, a 24 indie movie.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, were you paid to be in it?

[Gabby]

But I don't even know.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Barely.

[Gabby]

I mean, I was. But I asked my lawyers. Like, we were on the call. They were like, yeah, you know, you don't have any trailers. I was like, okay, pull up. Yeah, right. I'm like, okay, whatever.

[Barbie Ferreira]

We set up a little bathroom for you over here if you want to lay your things in the toilet.

[Gabby]

No, no, literally, we had, like, which. It was an amazing. But to your point, it was an amazing movie. I worked with amazing actors. It was so much fun. We all clicked. There was, like, a green room that we all had to hang out with each other in. I'm like, oh, not these boys. But, like, a week or two in, I was like, okay, they're my family.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yes, Yes.

[Gabby]

I kind of like them.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Maybe. I understand that.

[Gabby]

You indie.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I mean, I've been. I love indie movies, but there are cons to it, which is lower budget, less glamorous.

[Grace]

And you know what?

[Barbie Ferreira]

I've just been taking it for the story, of course. It's really hard in the middle of it, and it's really tough. And, like, I'm like, oh, my God. Spent 15 hours running around, like, memorizing all these things. Like, it's, like, so fast. And because it's cheaper to make things fast and to go. It's just, like, so much more than, like, a cushy, like, procedural that you're,

[Grace]

like, literally showing up and you're like.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Which is lit, I hope.

[Grace]

Later in my life. I have incredible procedural.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm Doctor. Doctor whoever.

[Grace]

I'm here to save your life. I have psychic abilities or something. I could, like, I can. I have telepathy where I have a.

[Barbie Ferreira]

You know, we're all bearing it all, you know, some kind of doctor who can, like, fix you, like, from her special powers of being invisible or something. I would love that. In my 40s and 50s.

[Gabby]

Right? That's how you're gonna retire.

[Barbie Ferreira]

That's like, I. Thank you for having me in mind In a few decades.

[Gabby]

You work Monday through Friday, maybe like

[Barbie Ferreira]

in, out, see the kids before school, like, right? I don't start working until you have

[Gabby]

to buy kids three to pick them up.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And that's my lunch break. Yeah, people have that. And that like, is the dream. That is the, the act. I think the true actor's dream is not being a movie star. It's having like a really long standing show that you can like literally see your kids and like hang out with

[Gabby]

them and like, have a normal life.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I have to get paid handsomely. Yes.

[Gabby]

That's the dream, right? No, I don't. This is. It was just the first time I've ever like even not. Not heard of an indie movie. But I was like, wait, what is this baby?

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's giving, you know, it's like, what

[Grace]

if we make a movie with zero dollars?

[Gabby]

Right? I mean, some, like, I'm. I'm sure some people didn't even take a paycheck. But with that being said, like, it was amazing and I'm sure, like, I'm never gonna be, you know, on a cast and it was a comedy, so. So we were just laughing our asses off the whole time. It's like, how am I supposed to do anything different after this? But like, I have a bag obsession.

[Grace]

I also have a bag obsession. I balance these two things as well.

[Gabby]

I will sell vibrators online, like, if it's gonna be right.

[Grace]

I love doing a brand deal because it really frees up what I can do. Acting, which is so much more time consuming than doing a brand deal of something that I really like.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And I always try to have. I always try to work with people that I really like. Actually fuck with the products.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

And so, but it's just like the money's there.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The money's not necessarily in acting. I don't think people realize that, that like all these indie movies. I don't think people can live off of that. Thankfully, I like have the privilege of like having a social media presence. So I kind of can be like a part time influencer, you know, make

[Grace]

the money while I do these incredible

[Barbie Ferreira]

indie projects or go to Broadway and do all these things and still like be able to pay my mortgage and my mom's mortgage and maybe buy a bag if I'm lucky.

[Gabby]

Yeah, you bought your mom house. That's insane and amazing.

[Grace]

Oh, thank you so much.

[Barbie Ferreira]

The whole family's there right now.

[Grace]

I got my aunt there. My grandma stays there.

[Gabby]

Where is it?

[Grace]

It's in New York.

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Grace]

It's a little bit upstate.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Not too upstate, but yeah.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God. How long had you been planning it? Did she, like. Was it a surprise?

[Grace]

It wasn't a surprise, but I. My mom was, like, living in, like, not the best apartment ever at all

[Barbie Ferreira]

while I bought my house. And, like, there's. I'm an immigrant child. Immigrant. It's like that. The guilt and the, like. I always knew that I wanted to get my mom a house. It almost didn't feel like. It felt like I had to do it in a way that's, like, just spiritually, I have to give back to my family because of, like, the way that I grew up. So I think a lot of, like, kids from immigrant parents, like, totally. Like, I have friends who are, like,

[Grace]

Egyptian, and they, like, moved back in with their parents to help pay the mortgage when they, like, lost their job or, like, friends who, like. You know, it's like, I feel like there's this kind of sense of more family unity. So I'm really happy. I honestly, it's made me the happiest.

[Gabby]

Oh, I bet it's probably, like, the best thing you've ever done, like, for her and Kyne for. For yourself.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It just feels like a weight of, like, taken off my shoulder. It's like a. It's. Try not to. Obviously, selfishly, it just. A weight, you know, that your family's good. Like, everyone has a place to go. That wasn't necessarily the case.

[Gabby]

Oh, yeah. And you guys are so close. Yeah, right? You and your mom.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So close. She's.

[Grace]

Yeah, she's at my house right now.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God.

[Grace]

At my house right now. She's coming to the premiere today.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God.

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[Barbie Ferreira]

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[Barbie Ferreira]

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[Gabby]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.

[Grace]

She's gonna borrow clothes. Her favorite thing to go is like, did they give you any free makeup?

[Barbie Ferreira]

And they do. And so then I just like, oh, yes, you can have it all. And then I just give her a bath that she takes back to New York. So I'm about to go through the makeup.

[Gabby]

No, they Love. All my pr. I give to Robbie's sister.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby]

They, like, die for it. I mean, they've gotten, like, one time I gave her niece, who's like, six, this really cute, like, shiny star bag. It was silver. It's, like, half her size. And I know. I looked at the tag, and it was like, capernau. And then we looked it up online, and it was $750.

[Barbie Ferreira]

That's always.

[Grace]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby]

She. It comes from nothing, you know, she has, like. She's being raised by grandma and dad. She's the best little kid. She.

[Grace]

She deserves it.

[Gabby]

The bag, she will not take it off. But her mom was like, you gotta give that back.

[Barbie Ferreira]

That's like, so me growing up, oh,

[Grace]

don't take the movie.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Movie theater popcorn. That's too expensive. Don't ever get someone to buy you that. Sorry, Mom.

[Gabby]

I didn't know they offered me, you know. Right.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Yeah, it's a lot. It's interesting because I really. I grew up with that. And like, now even my mom, when I bought her the house, she's like, you don't have to do this. I'm like, mom, like, I don't want to hear anything about it, right? And it's, like, very sweet, but I just don't want to hear anything about it. Just go in. Here's the keys. Like, all that stuff, you know, it's just like. It's. I just grew up very.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

What's funny is I grew up poor, but I was kind of a bougie kid. Like, I wanted so much more. I would, like, go to thrift shop

[Gabby]

and be like, no, no. Living on the East Coast, I feel like you're, like, around it, you know?

[Grace]

You are so around it. It's not as separated by wealth. So I was like, my grandma cleaned houses.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I would go with her on the weekends to whatever house she, like, apartment she was cleaning and is, like, of

[Grace]

some, like, you know, Upper east side, like, socialite. And I'm like, yo, this is cool, right? This is, like, what I need to be on.

[Gabby]

Right? Then it's like, your inspiration. You're like, I do want to dress like. Yeah. An Upper west side, like, old Jewish grandma one day.

[Grace]

Love it.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I want to.

[Grace]

And I would like, every single apartment. I'd be like, whoa, loving this.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like.

[Gabby]

I'm, like, learning.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like, okay. Like, we don't have to live with just, like, packets of Splenda everywhere. It's like, really can be something else.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So many packets of stuff.

[Grace]

Splendid. Like in like straws and stuff that. I just feel like when you live in a family in a small apartment, you just acquire so much.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I'm like, whoa, this is cozy.

[Gabby]

You can tell it's very cozy.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's cozy here. There's not like a whole bunch of trash everywhere. Like 14 people live in this room.

[Gabby]

The Splenda is put away.

[Barbie Ferreira]

It's put away. It's like, that's so crazy.

[Gabby]

My grandma loves Splenda.

[Grace]

My grandma's still. I mean, I. I have that in me where I sometimes I'll take the little to Tabasco got put in the bag.

[Gabby]

Oh, yeah. The tiny Tabascos that come with like an oyster.

[Grace]

People take the whole diner. Sugar in her bag. I'm like, we have sugar at home. We do.

[Gabby]

That's me with an ashtray. Every party I go to with. Oh, yeah. I mean, we wear whatever at the W Mag. Charlie Xia.

[Grace]

And you must deal.

[Gabby]

It's a. It was a YSL like ashtray. I'm like, you think? I. And there were a ton of them, baby.

[Barbie Ferreira]

I. I have a friend.

[Grace]

I won't name name. Just in case the police are watching.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, I name names. The ashtrays from places like svb Chateau.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

So I got a little, you know, we got a little collection in the circle. I won't name names.

[Grace]

So.

[Gabby]

It's the best.

[Grace]

It's the best.

[Gabby]

Yes. And even without a purse.

[Grace]

A napkin too.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Oh, oh, that's a good idea.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Like an embroidered.

[Grace]

That was. It wasn't me. It was a friend.

[Gabby]

Oh, see, you're giving me ideas. Cuz we love napkins.

[Barbie Ferreira]

We love napkins. And we love an ashtray that has like a little.

[Grace]

I mean, honestly, it's good advertisement too, because it has their.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Like, it's like, it's right.

[Gabby]

What are you gonna do, throw these away? Give them to me.

[Grace]

Give it to me. I'll take it.

[Gabby]

Yeah. People will come over every once in a while.

[Grace]

Oh, look at Chateau Marmont. Never heard of that.

[Barbie Ferreira]

Never heard of these before.

[Grace]

Now I'm keenly aware of what they are. We should go.

[Gabby]

You're welcome.

[Grace]

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[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Grace]

So you're welcome.

[Gabby]

Oh, thank you so much.

[Grace]

Thank you for having me.

[Gabby]

Wait. Okay.

[Grace]

Go see Mila kicks April 17th.

[Gabby]

Yes.

[Barbie Ferreira]

And Face the Death came out April 10th. So you can go to your theater if you'd like.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

It's absolutely killing it. Thank you so much for coming on.

[Grace]

I love it. So fun.

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[Gabby]

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