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Summary

Podcast Summary: Long Winded with Gabby Windey – Episode: "Before the Breakup...."

Release Date: December 19, 2024

In this engaging episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey, hosted by Dear Media, Gabby Windey delves deep into a variety of relatable and thought-provoking topics alongside her guests Robbie Hoffman, Becca Moore, and Shannon. Skipping superficial introductions, the conversation swiftly moves into the heart of relationships, sexuality, self-image, and cultural observations, all infused with Gabby’s unique perspective and humor.

1. Relationship Milestones and Anniversary Celebrations

The episode kicks off with heartfelt discussions about relationship milestones. Shannon shares the joy and minor mishaps surrounding her and Robbie’s seven-month anniversary.

• Shannon [03:21]: “We just did seven. We did every month. She forgot our seventh month.”

• Gabby [03:37]: “Robbie is the sweetest. Like, just like, so...”

This segment highlights the couple’s playful and affectionate dynamic, showcasing the blend of love and humor that underpins their relationship.

2. Exploring Sexuality and Addressing Biphobia

A significant portion of the episode addresses complex topics around sexuality and biphobia. The conversation delves into the misconceptions about sexual orientation and the inherent nature of being LGBTQ+.

• Gabby [02:04]: “I'm not treating anyone gay. No one could be turned gay. You're born this way.”

• Becca Moore [02:24]: “But it's like. But argument born the way. That's why they get, you know, human rights, you know, gay rights. You're born that way.”

The guests vehemently affirm that sexuality is innate, dismissing the notion of choice and emphasizing the importance of inherent identity in the fight for rights and respect.

3. Pop Culture Analysis: Ellen’s Special

The hosts transition into a critique of Ellen DeGeneres’ recent special, discussing public perceptions and the backlash she received.

• Becca Moore [07:08]: “Yeah. Becca likes the bad boy again, so.”

• Becca Moore [08:22]: “She was fucking amazing. And I think the backlash of her, like, live, it was so good.”

The discussion underscores the dichotomy between on-screen personas and real-life behavior, pondering the extent of celebrity accountability and public response.

4. Intimate Relationship Dynamics and Sexual Practices

One of the more candid segments involves an open discussion about intimate sexual practices, specifically scissoring. The hosts share personal anecdotes and explore the nuances of their sexual relationships.

• Becca Moore [20:06]: “I want to go on the record. I am biphobic. I'm very afraid of bi people.”

• Shannon [26:08]: “We’re scissoring here.”

This frank conversation underscores the importance of communication and comfort in intimate relationships, highlighting both the challenges and the bonds formed through shared experiences.

5. Body Image and Top Surgery

The conversation takes a deeply personal turn as Becca and Shannon discuss their experiences with top surgery, addressing body image, surgical outcomes, and the emotional facets tied to their physical transformations.

• Becca Moore [38:45]: “Oh, yeah. What do you want to know?”

• Shannon [39:56]: “I actually really love mine, too. I feel like I wish I could be naked all the time.”

The hosts advocate for body autonomy and dismantle the stigma around surgical enhancements, emphasizing the positive impact these procedures have had on their self-esteem and comfort.

6. High School Memories and Friendship Dynamics

Reflecting on their formative years, the hosts reminisce about high school experiences, social hierarchies, and the lasting impact of teenage friendships.

• Becca Moore [62:04]: “I was kind of in the riff raff here.”

• Robbie Hoffman [65:37]: “That's a crazy quote.”

These nostalgic reflections provide insights into how early social environments shape individual personalities and future relationships.

7. Lesbian Aesthetic and Cultural Observations

The hosts explore the evolution of lesbian aesthetics, cultural contributions, and the shifting landscape of representation within the community.

• Becca Moore [49:54]: “Gay men lost their handle on the culture and the arts...”

• Gabby [50:24]: “I think we’re going through a bad time right now as mask, like, lesbians.”

This segment highlights the interplay between fashion, identity, and cultural prominence, discussing both progress and areas needing attention.

8. Family Interactions and Acceptance

Towards the end, the discussion shifts to family dynamics, acceptance, and the integration of partners within familial structures.

• Shannon [55:36]: “They were so excited to meet Shannon.”

• Becca Moore [56:34]: “They're like, you guys are so warm and welcoming as people.”

The hosts share heartwarming experiences of their families embracing their partners, underscoring the importance of family support in personal relationships.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Gabby [02:04]: “I'm not treating anyone gay. No one could be turned gay. You're born this way.”

• Becca Moore [28:22]: “She was fucking amazing. And I think the backlash of her, like, live, it was so good.”

• Becca Moore [60:00]: “I’m the boy one. I’m kind of the boy one.”

• Becca Moore [70:10]: “That would probably make me feel a lot better if you got a labiaplastic.”

Conclusion

This episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey masterfully navigates through personal experiences and broader social topics, offering listeners a blend of humor, honesty, and insightful commentary. From celebrating relationship milestones to dissecting complex issues around sexuality and culture, Gabby and her guests provide a nuanced and heartfelt exploration of the modern human experience.

For those seeking authentic conversations that go beyond the surface, this episode delivers a rich tapestry of discussions that resonate on both personal and societal levels.

Transcript

[Robbie Hoffman]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[Becca Moore]

No, this is. This is Cat Denial. Shout out to my grandfather.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I dare not to leave with that.

[Becca Moore]

This is a Zadie original. As we would say, my family.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Hello. Hello, Hello.

[Becca Moore]

This is Old Montreal that he.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay, one at a time.

[Shannon]

Hello, Hello, Hello.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay, okay, hold on. You too. Okay, you.

[Gabby]

Hey, guys. How are you? What's up?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay.

[Gabby]

How's it going?

[Shannon]

I'm going.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay. Hello. Hello. All right.

[Becca Moore]

I love my girlfriend.

[Gabby]

That's my boy.

[Becca Moore]

That's cute, lovey. Look at that. Why don't you wear something like this?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon]

I was about to say that to Robbie.

[Robbie Hoffman]

What are you wearing?

[Shannon]

That's so cute.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know, it's so cute.

[Becca Moore]

But see, I think that the girl one should have it on more. But I know you guys are very closer to me. You guys are very, like, closer. Which one's the girl one?

[Shannon]

Right.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It's harder to tell.

[Becca Moore]

You know, you have, like, one slight edge now. Are you having new 70s chucks every few months?

[Gabby]

Yeah, I just keep buying new ones. This is, like, probably my seventh pair of these shoes.

[Shannon]

Oh, my God, you love meeting my mom.

[Becca Moore]

Wait, why do you like them so new?

[Gabby]

No, I don't, but I was meeting her parents, and my other ones were dirty, so.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I like that.

[Shannon]

It was good. It was, like, fun, I feel. Am I.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Please sit.

[Becca Moore]

Okay. Nara.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That is it.

[Shannon]

My parents love Shannon, though. Like, my entire family. My sister has a crush on Shannon. It's really obvious.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, my God. Is she gay?

[Gabby]

I think now I hear, like, nine.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yes. Literally.

[Gabby]

She's, like, a little by.

[Shannon]

Yeah. There was this window washer girl that was always in our life when she was in high school, and it was terrible.

[Robbie Hoffman]

A window washer.

[Gabby]

I think it was her girlfriend.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but I didn't know that they were dating.

[Becca Moore]

That's a dikey profession if you become a window washer. I know.

[Shannon]

I feel like she was, like, turning my sister gay, but now I realize she's probably.

[Becca Moore]

This is actually.

[Gabby]

I'm not treating anyone gay. No one could be turned gay. You're born this way.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, lady. It's got to come up. I feel like anytime there's a gay conversation, I'm like, I don't know if Lady Gaga really knew what she was doing, obviously, or how much had come up.

[Becca Moore]

I don't care if you're born this way or not. What if it is a choice? So what?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, if you buy and it kind of, like, is.

[Shannon]

It's kind of a choice if you're bi.

[Becca Moore]

But it's like. But argument born the way. That's why they get, you know, human rights, you know, gay rights. You're born that way. You don't even choose it. It's like, so what? It has to be. It has to be inherent for you to want to respect this.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. I think it's for the Christians. It's like the only thing we had to really get through the. To them it's like, don't worry, I cannot control it. And then maybe what if I did it a little more? Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Have you seen the balls? I'm a no. Like, I'm a no. I'm a no.

[Gabby]

Me too. Yeah. I would choose this life too.

[Shannon]

I would too. That's why I used one time I tweeted, I know sexuality isn't a choice because I wouldn't be straight. I tweeted that and then I like quote tweeted it when I met Shannon. And I was like, nevermind, never mind.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, your first clue. Well, how's it going? You guys just had your six month anniversary.

[Shannon]

We had seven. We just did seven.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We did every month.

[Shannon]

You did? Yeah, we were. She forgot our seventh month.

[Gabby]

I don't know what day it is. Any day. You know what I mean? Like when she's like, do you know what day it is? Every time she's ever said it, I'm like, oh, it's our anniversary. I just told.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She's like, no, it's just Wednesday.

[Gabby]

Like, I just don't know what day it is.

[Becca Moore]

Well, it isn't technically an anniversary. I'm gonna be like, actually, what was the first.

[Shannon]

It's the day that we met.

[Gabby]

Well, we just met a year ago. December.

[Shannon]

December 3rd.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I saw. And then it took a while for you guys to start dating, right?

[Shannon]

Yeah. She drunk forever. Robbie had to be like, ask her out.

[Gabby]

Oh yeah, Robbie harassed me outside.

[Shannon]

Thank God though, cuz you did like a week later.

[Becca Moore]

Oh wait, you guys weren't official when we went on that double date?

[Gabby]

No, we were.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Remember when Shannon came over and did my pod?

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And you guys met briefly outside. No one knew that we were dating.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, yeah. And you were dating. And I was like, she your girlfriend? You said. I said, what's going on here? Y.

[Gabby]

You're like, well, do you love her or not? I was like, oh my God.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay, like an existential question. Like, do I love her?

[Gabby]

We just met. Like, Robbie, he was like, so do you love her or not? I'm like, oh my God.

[Shannon]

We hadn't just met. Yeah, yeah.

[Becca Moore]

I was like pulling laundry out of my.

[Gabby]

The story.

[Robbie Hoffman]

You're still wrong.

[Gabby]

Yeah. You were getting your laundry out.

[Becca Moore]

I was getting my laundry. I'm like, well, do you love the.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That is how Robbie meets people. Which is like. Because I was. I was gonna ask, like, if there's anything surprising about each other, like, now that you're in a relationship, which is probably such an annoying question. But I'm like, what about, like, Robbie? And then she's like. She just leads with herself.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So there's nothing to be surprised about.

[Gabby]

Is there anything surprising about Gabby to you?

[Becca Moore]

Everything. Yeah. No, of course. I mean, Gabby is just so funny. I'm not allowed to say this because I'm a professional comedian.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, no, it feels offensive.

[Becca Moore]

Like, I'm delighted in hanging out with her because of how funny she is and just how smart she is.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I think we just have a lot of fun together.

[Becca Moore]

But I haven't been in a relationship that I'm hanging out as much with the person. Like, I would always keep, like, kind of a separate. So that's. It's not surprising. It's just delightful. It's just like, oh, thank God.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Surprise.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Robbie, you talk so sweetly about Gabby after our double date. I told everybody that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I was like, oh, my God. Robbie is the sweetest. Like, just like, so. You're so.

[Shannon]

You're not. You're definitely different off camera. Like, you're nicer.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I'm a sweetie.

[Becca Moore]

I just said this. I am a sweetie. I am the opposite Ellen. Ellen comes off hoarding to be nice and kind and dancing, but she's actually a terror to work with. I come out aggressive, little rough around the edges, but I'm actually a delightful.

[Shannon]

You made sure we got in our car. You were like, waving us good bye last time we were here.

[Gabby]

You're very sweet. You're very sweet. Opposite Ellen is a crazy.

[Becca Moore]

I am opposite Ellen. I come off aggressive. I'm actually quite kind. It will come out one day. Unkind.

[Gabby]

Wait, we watched Ellen's special, Like, the new one?

[Becca Moore]

Yes.

[Gabby]

I saw Becca's watching this special and she.

[Shannon]

How canceled she got. I didn't understand what happened with her.

[Gabby]

Okay, well, that's not what I was going to say. What I was going to say is she's watching her do that, like walking back and forth, and she looked at me and she goes, I think I'm a lesbian.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I was like, are you like.

[Becca Moore]

Ellen looks good.

[Shannon]

I thought she looks good.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I think lesbians age well. Yeah, I'm like a middle aged lesbian. Like, exactly I feel like there's something so attractive about it. A middle aged dude. I'd throw up.

[Shannon]

Yeah, they just don't do the same age.

[Becca Moore]

Well, no, you're.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Never mind the beer belly. It just, like, all goes south, but I feel like women get better.

[Shannon]

I know. She's, like, hot. I mean, good for her. We're gonna cancel. I feel like. I mean, she did something good to her, but. Yeah, I did.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. Becca likes the bad boy again, so.

[Shannon]

Yeah. Because I. And then I posted on my Instagram story that I, like, loved her. And then everyone was like, you're you. Everyone got so mad.

[Becca Moore]

No, please, listen.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Robbie posted it too.

[Becca Moore]

Ellen's a g. Yeah. You know, there's something you're gonna say. She's like, okay, she's canceled for being mean. I understand. First of all, Jimmy Kimmel, all these people are mean. Or. Or whatever. Fallon or. All these people are probably CEOs. They're probably mean.

[Gabby]

Her big.

[Becca Moore]

She. She, you know, purported to be nice. Her old brand was that. But who cares? Big whoop. She didn't rape no one. She didn't kill no one.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

It's like, we have real criminals.

[Robbie Hoffman]

There was no casting couch.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, like, this is what I'm saying.

[Shannon]

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. It's like, okay, she's just a boss. Like, good for her.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

It was blown. Women and black people are always gonna.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Look this back and be like, well, we really wrote a little too bad.

[Shannon]

For being mean, for not being sweet enough.

[Becca Moore]

Like, yeah, it's like they really get canceled. Like, we. We go like, yeah, like. Like women. Any. Any minority, they really. It's. It's a little scapegoating. It also has validity, but great. Now, you know, I saw her live at the Log. I'm like, we gotta go see Ellen live. Yeah. My buddy Roxy.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Was that the one that she taped that?

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, she taped. And it was.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She probably only could get it one shot because I don't know how many people. Everybody, whole location. She's like, we got.

[Becca Moore]

She was sold out every show.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, I bet I did. Definitely.

[Becca Moore]

And she was fucking amazing. And I think the backlash of her, like, live, it was so good. Like, we were. I. I was thinking, my head just tell everybody fuck off. And then she's like, I should have told everybody fuck off. And then people were like, that's what Ellen says. So the public response to it live, it was great. It's like, yeah, bitch, tell them to fuck the ride off.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, well, because you're safer.

[Gabby]

I feel Those are your fans.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

You know, if people are there, they like you, not the people who already decided they don't like you. And then they're gonna find anything you said and be like, fuck you.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, Ellen.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I felt like it was closure watching it back. I can't remember anything else. We watched some of her old clips after, but I'm like, good for her for bringing it up.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

You know, and that special was way.

[Gabby]

Better than her special before. Now their special was, like, so much about her being rich and being like, sorry, I'm rich. But it was a little special. People knew she was mean, and so it was like. It was a foreshadowing.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I feel like everyone was taken aback by that special. And then this special, it was like, okay, just better to have everything out there.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Right.

[Gabby]

Which is kind of interesting because I. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say that you gave Becca such good advice about, like, her fault. I tell people all the time about it because I thought it was so sweet.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And Robbie helped me with that, too. It's just, like, going down the line.

[Gabby]

Just, like, say what you like, and then the people that like you will, like, like, follow you and keep following you, and then you're not so worried all the time about getting disliked.

[Shannon]

Yeah, totally.

[Gabby]

I'm not there.

[Shannon]

I think I'm getting. I'm going back to my villain era.

[Gabby]

Oh, you are?

[Shannon]

I just decided today, actually what you say she's talking about my villain era.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Because what is your villain era? This sweater brings out your eyes.

[Shannon]

Oh, my God.

[Robbie Hoffman]

My God. Yeah.

[Shannon]

You guys, I love it here.

[Gabby]

I love you guys.

[Shannon]

Well, I used to, like, just say everything wrong about me, like, publicly and, like, let people know everything bad I've ever done. And then I, like. I think when I started dating you, I kind of was like, I'm good. I swear, I'm good. I've never done anything that bad. Mostly having to do with, like, I don't even know, like, jobs I've gotten fired from and, like, random guys I've. Which I've dated randomly. A lot of bachelor guys.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

And Shannon fans, they hate that. Like, he really.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Why?

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Shannon]

They think I'm the Bachelor because I don't think.

[Gabby]

I think some of my niche. Part of my audience.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. I think there's just that. Hates the Bachelor. Hates the idea that you've dated, dated.

[Shannon]

Men and, like, talked about it online.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, but that's, like, such a part of, like, you know, whatever. Our journey.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

You were on the badge, but in the. I posted you know the thing, I just ignore it. I just posted about Shannon, like, meeting one year ago today. I. One year ago today, I, like, posted a bunch of, like, screenshots from my camera roll on TikTok of, like, what I was doing a year ago today, like, talking about Shannon to all my friends. And in one of the screenshots, there was a screenshot, like, from my camera roll of Blake Port. No, not Blake Horse. Blake. What's the guy's last name?

[Gabby]

Why are so many of them named Blake?

[Shannon]

Blake from the Bachelor.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It was like a Chad.

[Shannon]

Katie. Katie Thurston.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yes, yes, yes. I forget his last name, too.

[Shannon]

I went on a date with him, like, three days before I met Shannon, and I was, like, sending a screenshot to, like, be like, oh, my God, he always posts shirtless. What the hell? Like, to almost. No offense, Blake.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So embarrassing. Offense.

[Shannon]

But, like, it was.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Take it back.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I'm sending it to my friends to make fun of him for, like, being like, so. I don't even know, like, a gym bro. And so in my one year post to Shannon, there was a screen.

[Gabby]

You can see, like, this little, like, a little picture of a man at the bottom and her face.

[Shannon]

And then they were sending it to Shannon being like, your girlfriend is straight. Like, you. Straight, like what, though?

[Gabby]

Like, it's just biphobia at the end of the day, isn't it?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Here we go. Biphobia for five minutes.

[Gabby]

We're not allowed to talk about that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Here we are. I'm back on my bi shit, though. I change my mind every five seconds. I'm like, I do believe it. Yeah. I believe in heterosexuality. Not for me.

[Gabby]

Did you start believing when you went back to Regina? Because when I went to Pennsylvania for my cousin's wedding, I was like, oh, wait, no, straight people do exist.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Actually, maybe I went back to Colorado for a wedding and I'm like, oh, my God, everyone was straight except for me.

[Shannon]

I know, but maybe they just don't know.

[Gabby]

Yeah, but there's. I don't know. In Pennsylvania. I was like, no, some of you guys, really, you should only sleep with the opposite gender.

[Shannon]

Yeah, maybe you're right. I don't.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, we don't want you around.

[Becca Moore]

I don't think you would.

[Gabby]

You don't fit in.

[Becca Moore]

I just want to go on the record. I am biphobic. I'm very afraid of by people. You are bi. Please leave me alone. I don't feel safe around you. And this is what it is.

[Shannon]

I am too. I think. I don't really like him.

[Becca Moore]

By Men, do not come near me. Do not even try.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know patients by man. I do.

[Becca Moore]

Harry Styles.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I feel like. No, I think that's performative. My first boyfriend in junior high, he was my first kiss, my first dry hump. He.

[Gabby]

That's memorable.

[Robbie Hoffman]

You gotta let it out. Yeah, but. And then he would ever. He was like, you know, feminine. I always liked him a little more effeminate. Kind of makes sense. And in high school, he had to transfer schools because he was on the cheer team. Everyone was calling him gay. And I think he did want to transfer school so he could, like, maybe experience it more. He was gay in college. There's, like, pictures of his boyfriend on his Instagram. And now he's married with a woman. So what do you think about that? He's like, not on. I'm like, is this. He's not on. Like, he's just, like, living a normal life. Like, he's not, like a social media person.

[Becca Moore]

He used a woman to have a family. And I see this a lot.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Men, you can have a family.

[Becca Moore]

There's no limits to their use of women included. We forget gay men are men.

[Shannon]

We do forget that a lot.

[Becca Moore]

Simple content.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I feel like. I don't know. Yeah, no, no. I totally get it.

[Becca Moore]

They want a family. He'll do. He'll put in 18 years and he'll go back to taking. Happens all of the time. It literally is a gameplay for these. Well, how do you want to have family? You can do it with a gay man. Really gay. Who wants to do that? Okay. Or you can take an L for 20 years for the sake of family and having kids forever.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, I don't know. I guess because he's already, like, lived it once. I understand what you're saying. It's like surrogacy. Like, we're just using women kind of as vessels. But if he's like, if he already did it once, he didn't have to go back.

[Gabby]

Like, when you guys dry hump, did he enjoy it?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, totally. I was like, what's so hard in his pants?

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

I feel like it is hard for everyone to conceptualize that men are.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Like, even me, I'm like, I don't know.

[Becca Moore]

We just don't care if you're a man and you're like, okay, that's true. Why do I need to care about you?

[Shannon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gabby]

I don't care.

[Becca Moore]

I don't care.

[Gabby]

I knew centered man a long time ago.

[Becca Moore]

I need that Melania jacket that she wore to the children's shelter. Or something horrible where she wore a jacket in the back for all the photos that. I don't care. Do you? And it's like, melania, you're literally right.

[Robbie Hoffman]

This is not the time to wear it.

[Gabby]

I think she should ever wear that jacket, like, anywhere. Anywhere.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I think if someone's not allowed to, it should be Melania Trump. Like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. Or just lean in, kind of, like, back up to her villain era is the most beautiful, most stylish.

[Becca Moore]

It really is true. You gotta give it up.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

You gotta give it up.

[Shannon]

She's really hot.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, she's really hot. She's really hot.

[Gabby]

She did. She wrote the book, like, as he's running for president, where she, like, came for him, too.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She obviously really.

[Gabby]

He said something in the book about him. I forget. I don't care enough about that either.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I don't know. I don't care. But she obviously hates him.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Every time, like, on the stage, she's like, it looks like she's trying not to throw up.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. I mean, they're sharing spray tans. His spray tan line gets me every time. Anytime he comes on the TV doing anything, I, like, look for it. And I'm like, how. I mean, I know we really, like, wrote it home the first time around when he was president and how orange he was, but really, though. But I just thought it was from, like, carrots or, like, you know how you can turn, like, vitamin A if you have that, or I thought he had a disease or something. It's like knowing that it was from a spray tan is so crazy.

[Becca Moore]

They're just not a couple that spends a lot of time together.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And that's really how she likes it.

[Becca Moore]

You know what I mean? They're not.

[Gabby]

No, they're some kind of. She has a contract, obviously, with him where she's like, okay, I'll stay until they signed any.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, yeah, she's good to stay forever. But it's like, they're not like, a couple. Like, we know of couples. You know, they're not. Not hanging out together all the time. I love to see a couple together.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. I would love to keep talking about this. Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, we got an agenda.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Let's get back to our scissoring Super Bowl Lesbian. We've talked about it before. Or, like, title of our podcast.

[Gabby]

And also, I noticed today that I don't have my name. It just literally is called Scissoring. It's not like, with no name, I.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Get in so much trouble. Like, who is this guy? Which, like, everyone, mostly people know I think they're just kind of trying to be annoying, but it's like, look it up.

[Gabby]

Yeah, right. Who could.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well, yeah, we. I wasn't going to bring it back. Just. Do you guys scissor? I wasn't here.

[Gabby]

I wasn't going to. Do you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, we have.

[Shannon]

Chill.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yes.

[Gabby]

Are you okay?

[Robbie Hoffman]

How was it? Did you do the legs or did you do. What did we do?

[Shannon]

Shannon knew what to do. I didn't know how to do it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Shannon's like, moving you like a dummy, literally.

[Shannon]

Well, we took an edible one time and watched Shrek. That was the best time. I think every time Becca and I.

[Gabby]

Hook up afterwards, she goes, that was my favorite time.

[Becca Moore]

And I'm like, every.

[Shannon]

It keeps getting better. We keep getting better at hooking up.

[Becca Moore]

What are the tips? What are the tips?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Right. What do you guys do?

[Shannon]

Shannon. It's really a lot of Shannon.

[Gabby]

Well, recently, I think the thing.

[Shannon]

Scared of what you're.

[Gabby]

I feel like I can say it.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

When we can cut anything.

[Gabby]

Recently, the thing. There's something on your chin right here. What did you eat something.

[Shannon]

Oh, area.

[Gabby]

I think it's just.

[Becca Moore]

Well, the dog was on top of her.

[Gabby]

I know. You won't be able to see it. I think our biggest development recently is. I'm talking.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I was gonna say communication or talking? Dirty talking.

[Gabby]

Wait.

[Shannon]

Last time I was on your podcast, we talked about it, and I was like, no, me and Shannon are way too close to be able to do that. And now we didn't.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Because you like too close because you want to introduce it early.

[Shannon]

Well, we were too close. Like, we're, like, best friends, so it's, like, weird because we laugh, like, before and after we hook up. So it's, like, weird to, like, talk.

[Gabby]

I've always. I think I talked about it on your podcast that I have a hard time talking.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

You were saying y'all talk and you work through, like, trauma.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, no, we get really deep.

[Gabby]

Also.

[Shannon]

When we met, though, you said that you were, like, against talking, and I did not say.

[Gabby]

I said. It's something I struggle with. It's my hardest thing because I, in bed, in general, struggle with being in my head.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And talking feels like another thing, another.

[Shannon]

Element of, like, so confident. But when we met, like, that was the funny part because I like to do that. Like, in past relationships, like, I've liked that. And she was like, I will. Literally, I'm open to anything in bed except for, you know, and when she. I had to pretend like I didn't like that either. In the beginning, like, I was too scared.

[Becca Moore]

I was like, so you're having. That's it. That is it. That's it. Bye.

[Gabby]

No, his eyes.

[Becca Moore]

Okay.

[Gabby]

That.

[Becca Moore]

He looks the cutest he's ever looked. And I don't say this about. This dog really is cute.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That's the problem.

[Gabby]

Looked like what?

[Becca Moore]

No, no.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Lay down.

[Becca Moore]

Lay down.

[Robbie Hoffman]

You can get him to lay down.

[Becca Moore]

Lay down, lay down, lay down.

[Robbie Hoffman]

You can stay here, but you have to lay down.

[Becca Moore]

Lay down.

[Gabby]

Lay.

[Becca Moore]

Lay. This is the dumbest dog I know. People say this. He can't lay. He can't sit. He doesn't do anything.

[Gabby]

He's getting excited.

[Becca Moore]

I always thought you have a big dog. You play Frisbee. Not this dog.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay, Lay down, Nardo. Or. Or just do that. What you're saying.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, so you're just having silent sex.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Like, are you fingering? Are you. Are you. Then it's. And it's quiet, like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, well, you can mow.

[Gabby]

Like, a lot of talking.

[Becca Moore]

Do you have music on?

[Shannon]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Robbie Hoffman]

But now there's, like, listen to.

[Gabby]

Because I realized it was helping her, but I was like, okay, I can get through this.

[Becca Moore]

I.

[Gabby]

It's like a tr. I think you have to a little bit train yourself to be like, okay, just say it, because she's gonna like it. But before it was, I'd be like, what if I say the wrong thing? And then I say all kinds of things?

[Shannon]

It doesn't even matter.

[Gabby]

And then I realize I'm like, she's blacked out. I don't think she knows what's being said. I'm like. And then I'm. I can relax.

[Shannon]

Yeah, you can say anything.

[Becca Moore]

And the sex is so mental. So the talking is like. Like, biggest thing. Yeah. Personally. But. Yeah, because I think it's so mental always. But I also think it's, like, it's just, like, talking is so. Like, it's nothing. It can't really hurt. Like, it's all mental. So it's kind of a free reign. Like, let's say you say something she's not gonna, like, great. She says she doesn't like it. Nothing happened. Like, do you know what I mean? And then. You don't have to say that.

[Gabby]

What's the worst case scenario?

[Becca Moore]

Worst case scenario of talking?

[Gabby]

No, this is not, like, asphyxiation.

[Becca Moore]

People are into, I'm gonna take your swine. She's blue.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, no.

[Becca Moore]

But, like, literally, like, people are into stuff that, like, oh, the worst thing that could happen is death. Yeah, it's literally, like, you're in the hospital, so it's like, worst thing of talking. It's a pretty good one to really. You can get really kinky or dark with it, but it really doesn't do anything but the mental.

[Gabby]

Yeah, that's true. I think before, too, like, I would really rely on. This is so tmi, but whatever. I would just go down there and then.

[Robbie Hoffman]

You can't talk down there.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Nothing to say.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I got work to do. Let's see.

[Becca Moore]

When I'm down, I want her to be talking.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I'm not kidding.

[Becca Moore]

Because she doesn't talk enough.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And be like. I'm like, please, just, like, keep your head down.

[Becca Moore]

I know. Because you're.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I want to see where it's like, exercise.

[Becca Moore]

I want to see where it's good, but you refuse. You're like, no, this is good news.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well, because, like, you coming up when I. You're like, where does it feel good? But I'm like, I wouldn't know because you're not down there up here talking.

[Becca Moore]

But.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And I'll let you know, like, once you really hit a spot. Be like, okay, right there.

[Becca Moore]

I hope you can speak a little bit before that as well. I'm hoping you can.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It just takes a while. I just like to relax.

[Becca Moore]

Like, just like to relax.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That's something to do a lot of work.

[Shannon]

Doing the work is too much work.

[Becca Moore]

Are you. You and I, by the way, we're matching.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

She's gotten a lot of compliments.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know.

[Becca Moore]

I've gotten almost zero. We're wearing very, very similar colors.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I'm looking at her. No, that brings out color on you.

[Becca Moore]

Thank you. I do thank you as well. When I need to fish, I'll fish. You and I take the longest to come.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Becca Moore]

And you guys are Two seconds to come.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. Two pump.

[Gabby]

John, how do you know that we talked about this? Okay, got it.

[Becca Moore]

Are you mad that we talked about this?

[Gabby]

No, no, no. I forgot that we talked about it.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I'm sure it was a part. Was I apart? Was I there?

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, we had wine.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We were. Yeah. I think we were on our second or third bottle of wine after bowling.

[Gabby]

Yep. I remember coming back to me.

[Becca Moore]

Have you guys found a way to expedite the talking? No, no. Oh, the talking.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I come talking.

[Gabby]

It's the talking.

[Shannon]

This is like, a recent development that we've. It's been like the last.

[Gabby]

It kind of started out as a joke, and then I was like, wait.

[Becca Moore]

She really meant a lot.

[Gabby]

I was like, jokingly.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

What do you say.

[Robbie Hoffman]

What do you say? Because I run out of things to say.

[Gabby]

It was because it went all the way into, like, role playing on accident. I was jokingly.

[Shannon]

It really was a joke, but I came and literally thought.

[Gabby]

I think it was. It was the sorority sister you were.

[Shannon]

Pretending to be in my sorority.

[Gabby]

Yeah, I was like, her sorority sister. And I was like, this is a ritual. You have to do it. And you. You can't enjoy it. Like, if you like it, then you're not gonna get into.

[Robbie Hoffman]

This is really good. That's my thing. I always want to be somewhere where it's bad. Yeah. I don't want to. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, am I gonna get caught? I want to get caught.

[Gabby]

Yeah, me too. And Becca always is like, no. Like, she says no, and I'm like, saying, like, we're gonna need a safe word, because you mean.

[Shannon]

Yeah, Like, I was trying to joke along with her. Like, no, I'm not. I don't like it. I don't like it. And then I, I. It wasn't a joke anymore, and I literally came. So that was the fastest I've ever came.

[Gabby]

So we figured it out. Wow.

[Shannon]

We don't do that every time. I like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, yeah, no, we went through, like, a huge dirty talking phase when I was living at Kathleen's. Sorry. I think sometimes she does listen to this. Your couch, first of all, if you ever want to get rid of it, please.

[Becca Moore]

We love the couch.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yes. It's like, I always want to call it Velcro.

[Becca Moore]

Wait, this corduroy? Kathleen, I'm horrified.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I apologize. No, we had, like, a blanket. Maybe.

[Becca Moore]

We always had stuff going on.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, but we went through a. We went through a real. Just, like, sex phase and, like, dirty talking phase. It was kind of still at the beginning of our relationship.

[Becca Moore]

I feel like I'm not a summer dirty talk phase.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Like. No, me either. I'd like to reincorporate it, but are we not.

[Gabby]

I didn't know we left it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, I'm still chatting.

[Becca Moore]

I'm still chatting.

[Robbie Hoffman]

This is how one way I go, you know? No, I do like to chat. We just don't do it as much. I mean, I just remember. That's, like, the only thing I remember about Kathleen.

[Becca Moore]

What were we. What were your favorite chats?

[Robbie Hoffman]

No. Is like. I don't know. It feels. This probably is, like the Catholic in me, but it feels, like, very. Like I'm gonna get caught by a priest and like, I'm in confession and, you know, that's like, what I'm going.

[Becca Moore]

Through in my headservices.

[Gabby]

Who is Kathleen?

[Becca Moore]

Kathleen's one of my best friends and we're neighbors. She lives on top of me. My apartment is just below her, so. And we're good friends. And so I was displaced. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Gabby was between places and Kathleen works a lot, so Kathleen wasn't there. She a massive show in Toronto. So we were there taking over the couch.

[Gabby]

A quarter. Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

And we had to stay there rather.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Than my house because it was literally the corner. Is that what you said?

[Gabby]

No, I said corduroy couch. Oh.

[Robbie Hoffman]

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[Becca Moore]

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[Gabby]

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[Becca Moore]

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[Gabby]

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[Robbie Hoffman]

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[Becca Moore]

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[Gabby]

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[Robbie Hoffman]

Are you guys using strap ons?

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, we have one for you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, you should go get it.

[Becca Moore]

Because remember.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I'm like, well, they will. She's like, you can blur it.

[Becca Moore]

In this predicament in which I can.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Show off our strap on.

[Becca Moore]

Gabby is like Goldie Cox and the strap on. Okay. At this point. Point, it's like, it's too big. It's too small. More realistic. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. So I'm spending money. I'm. I'm dropping, like, literally racks on these things. Like a thousand dollars.

[Robbie Hoffman]

One of them. She's like, you get this one, and then she just has.

[Becca Moore]

This is like a 2 or $300 one. Because it also makes you feel good. So.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, but those are people.

[Gabby]

People using.

[Becca Moore]

People using additives. Sometimes you want to penetrate somebody, but you also want to feel it. So this has some sort of a.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Those are my favorite. Because that's the hardest.

[Becca Moore]

Again.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Exit the other person. Can't feel it.

[Becca Moore]

Now we have two to give you because one was too big for you. And now we have another one too big for you. And I'll show you the one that Gabby likes, but she wants it bigger. I'll be right back.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Wait, do you guys use one?

[Shannon]

Yes, but ours is still pink with heart. We have one and we just use that one.

[Gabby]

I love that. Like, on our own podcast, we're so much more shy. You were literally a shit. She's like, I asked her. I talked about it with Allie Blairs, like, what color it was, and I was like, do you care if I said it? And she was like, no, it's fine. And then my editor made a vertical with it, and I was.

[Shannon]

You posting on Instagram?

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And I agree. I agree. So then we bleeped it. So you can't tell what color it is.

[Shannon]

But on other level, so much. I don't care. It's just that my sister and mom follow you on Instagram and I don't.

[Gabby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I'm always a little more tame with my Insta clips. I'm like, it. Not on TikTok, but Instagram, there's such squares. Wait.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

This is like. This is reminiscent of the time that Robbie's still like. Or the first time she introduced me to the concept of Strap ons. I thought it was just like something for gay dudes. What? Yeah, I just. I didn't really ever think a lot about lesbians. Yeah, I just didn't.

[Shannon]

I was thinking about them a lot. I knew, I knew.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, no, you were ready.

[Gabby]

I was thinking about them a lot. I talked about y'all showing me your strap ons on my like patreon, but I didn't say it was you guys.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So now it's like, no, we love it.

[Becca Moore]

This is what I want on the show and tell. Yeah, welcome to services.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It was like. It was like a show. It was like a fashion show. Robbie kept going back to her bucket like of more strap ons. I was like, oh my God, these lesbians are freaks. Like I don't belong here. Wait till she finds out about my like starfish ass right out the door.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, so this is another. So this is the one that Gabby. The first one that we went to get together.

[Robbie Hoffman]

If you're a man, turn this off right now.

[Becca Moore]

You§ I believe this is actually for the ass. But Gabby's like, yes, this is going to be the perfect.

[Gabby]

It's gonna be so small. That's our first one was really like literally the same size small.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It was.

[Gabby]

Remember it was rainbow or like a lesbian. It was the same thing. Rebecca was like, I think that one. I was like, ok, I feel like we're sleeping with men.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Like I feel like bigger than that. Let me tell you. We all been gas.

[Becca Moore]

Dykes thinks these dudes are walking around with freaking trunks. This is average.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Maybe a little bigger.

[Becca Moore]

A big. A little.

[Gabby]

I guess they're only seen porn.

[Becca Moore]

So then we went to this one. Then we went to this one.

[Shannon]

I don't like that.

[Gabby]

Why is that so pale?

[Becca Moore]

Cuz it's to match me, guys.

[Gabby]

So I don't like the blue. Not be like that pink.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, so it's not that.

[Gabby]

No, it's literally anything. It might be smaller.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, these are the ones. She likes this one, but she wants this one bigger.

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Becca Moore]

So I said this is on her.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And this one has no, I think that one.

[Shannon]

I don't like that. I don't like that at all.

[Becca Moore]

That's a ball.

[Gabby]

Like that is a ball.

[Shannon]

Oh my God. E. I don't like that.

[Becca Moore]

Oh my God. And then these are the gifts for you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay.

[Becca Moore]

This one you remember well from last time.

[Gabby]

That was huge and really furry at the moment. I know.

[Robbie Hoffman]

There's so much lint on of them. Like this is like.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, I don't even have the other one. I'm gonna go get it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

What's the other one?

[Gabby]

That is big. The balls.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Freaking out. Realistic. I don't. They just need the ball, Right? Well, this is for.

[Becca Moore]

So the difference in size of this.

[Robbie Hoffman]

One of the cameras.

[Gabby]

Oh, it got, like, scary.

[Becca Moore]

Look at the difference in this.

[Gabby]

That's just so wide. Girthy.

[Shannon]

It's just so realistic. I never seen.

[Becca Moore]

So the balls is just. Just psycho on this. Why are they. Yeah. This long? They look like they're weirdly shaped. Did it die? It's. It's so. It, like, sticks on you and still comes up.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Everyone stop.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, I'm gonna.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well, I do want to go back to the gender conversation.

[Gabby]

And we should also talk about.

[Shannon]

Are we.

[Gabby]

We weren't done with these dildos, so if you're looking.

[Becca Moore]

The problem with dildos, especially for. For. Are you going to show.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Show them, Joe. We're gonna blur.

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And Robbie's like, educational purposes. So then they're okay.

[Gabby]

You can show them.

[Becca Moore]

You need. But it is for people who want to. You know, I'm trying to be like, with a dildo, but they want to feel. They want to feel it as well. I ordered this. This comes highly recommended from another famous lesbian. My good friend Ali Cole. She said this Vic Skin. But again, Goldiecox over here.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It's too big, Bradley. It's that.

[Gabby]

It looks.

[Becca Moore]

That one is smaller than this one.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I think this one is too big. I think they're just so hard.

[Becca Moore]

But this one has, like, a little nub.

[Gabby]

Yeah, I'm seeing the nub. Can I feel it?

[Becca Moore]

That you can.

[Gabby]

You think this is really hard.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I don't know. I'm like, this has never been used looking at it. But. But it. There definitely was a problem.

[Shannon]

I think I'm gay. Every time I see this, I'm like, no, no, no. I don't like it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I don't know why I would try this again.

[Becca Moore]

We never tried it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, why didn't we try it?

[Becca Moore]

You said it was too big.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I don't think that one's too big.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah, you said it was exactly like this.

[Shannon]

But does that feel good, though, for you, Robbie?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Is it.

[Shannon]

Does it work?

[Becca Moore]

No, I haven't tried it. I literally have not tried it.

[Shannon]

I can't.

[Gabby]

Like, I really miss seeing something.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, so this is your gift.

[Gabby]

Oh, my God.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I don't know if Re does not want. She's not into the realistic, which. Which is okay.

[Gabby]

I cannot get past these balls.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know that huge ball.

[Gabby]

I don't. I don't think I ever saw balls.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I feel like it would just be hard for like.

[Becca Moore]

This one has crazy skin.

[Robbie Hoffman]

This one is really colored.

[Becca Moore]

Like that is that they do two color blood flow.

[Shannon]

Have you guys used these ones? These.

[Becca Moore]

This one I used.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Becca Moore]

I want to warn you.

[Gabby]

This one I've used.

[Becca Moore]

Okay. This one I fully not only have it used, it. It sticks to you and it's all dirty in the back. We haven't used it.

[Gabby]

How does it stick to you?

[Becca Moore]

So it has this like. Well, this is like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Needs to be changed.

[Becca Moore]

Okay. So it's got a hole inside for your clit.

[Gabby]

How so?

[Becca Moore]

If you put your finger in here, it has suction and you'll see there's little rivets and stuff to make your clip good.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That's what I was looking at.

[Becca Moore]

Put your. You'll put your.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I want to put my finger.

[Becca Moore]

Finger.

[Robbie Hoffman]

My finger.

[Becca Moore]

Okay.

[Gabby]

Like, where do we draw the line?

[Becca Moore]

See that?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Becca Moore]

So then when you're going in and out, it pulls your clit a bit. Okay.

[Shannon]

Does it actually stick to you and you've worn this.

[Gabby]

Yeah, I see.

[Becca Moore]

Okay. No, put it in, Put it in.

[Gabby]

It was in there.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Put it in.

[Becca Moore]

More, more, more.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We're all sharing.

[Gabby]

I don't know that my. Is big enough to fit in, but.

[Becca Moore]

When it's engorged, I. I've seen it.

[Gabby]

Engorged and I still don't know that I.

[Becca Moore]

This is her mostly for mask. Mask dudes who are on T. Yeah, because you and their click rows, which. If I could pick and choose what I wanted from T, I'd want big clit and I'd want muscles and fat redistribution, but I would not want hair or loss of hair either. So I think I am in a predicament.

[Gabby]

If I went on T, I have such, like, fine little baby hairs here that I feel like if I would have receding hair.

[Becca Moore]

You absolutely would.

[Gabby]

Yeah. These are facts I'm not interested in.

[Becca Moore]

No, I am not interested in that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So we were talking about all of this during the break. I've had a lot of questions before about your top surgery. Well, I asked if you're comfortable talking about it.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, yeah. What do you want to know? No, I was surprised when you asked because we've talked about it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I know, but not on the. Yeah, I don't know about the podcast. Like, I was getting some dms. I just posted a photo of us for your birthday. No, they were like, I don't know if you know, but Robbie's. Robbie's nipples showing. I'm Like, I wish it was mine, but. Yeah, I know.

[Becca Moore]

Nippies.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, you do.

[Gabby]

Wait, you guys.

[Robbie Hoffman]

They're surgically enhanced. Well, dehance.

[Gabby]

They were, like, made smaller. No scar at all?

[Robbie Hoffman]

No. It's a great surgery. Well, you like why you do it? What is it? Does it have anything to say?

[Gabby]

Something? This is a. I think we should put this one back. I think now we should put it away in case.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

That's your. What do you mean, you're taking that home?

[Shannon]

Becca has top surgery, too.

[Becca Moore]

I know. Do you want to show yours?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

I actually really love mine, too. I feel like I wish I could be naked all the time. Like, it's so nice. They're just like. But my scars are darker than yours, so.

[Becca Moore]

Are they?

[Shannon]

No, mine are dark.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Do you have scars? They're.

[Shannon]

They're hidden. They're under.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, okay.

[Shannon]

Really? See? Unless I'm, like, wearing a bikini or. It's like.

[Gabby]

They're not, but they're, like, this big.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, they're short.

[Gabby]

They're just big enough to fit the implant in, I think.

[Shannon]

I'm not sure my doctor is a real doctor that did it. Like, I really. A real doctor hits on me still. He, like, replies to my story.

[Gabby]

He's a creep.

[Shannon]

It's weird.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Aren't they all? If you're working in breast augmentation, you're a man.

[Shannon]

Like, a straight man. I'm like, shut up.

[Gabby]

And he made it bigger. When she was under and didn't tell.

[Shannon]

Him, he made them bigger. He, like, without. We had agreed to a certain CC, and then he went 20, 25 bigger. So it's like, they're, like, a little bit bigger than they were supposed to be. He was like, trust me, this is perfect for you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

He's like, no, I will make this decision for you. This is what's wrong with our world.

[Shannon]

It's so weird.

[Gabby]

Insane.

[Becca Moore]

Well, they know proportions and stuff. Not to defend the doctor, but even when I got my top surgery, like, they make your nipples and the shape proportional to you, and they follow your muscular. Like on my pec muscle.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That's what I.

[Becca Moore]

You have muscles? All women do. Under their fat. But he specifically puts the incision as a natural placement where you might have a crease.

[Robbie Hoffman]

As they should. Right?

[Shannon]

Because that's the idea I'm talking about.

[Robbie Hoffman]

To a pack.

[Shannon]

Implants themselves. He gave me bigger implants. Like, he. Why did he have to do that? That was random.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And he had already.

[Becca Moore]

He had a little squeeze before he woke you up.

[Gabby]

He took a Picture of him and sent it to, like, texted it to while you were in the.

[Shannon]

And he sent it to me.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We're gonna find out.

[Shannon]

Emojis.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, he's doing something weird to his patients. Hopefully not you when they're asleep, but it'll come out in the news.

[Shannon]

I know that's like, too creep.

[Robbie Hoffman]

But I remember, like, you. You were just saying, I guess when I. When we first met. And I was asking you about it because I had never known about top surgery before. On your Instagram, you could see some of my friends are like, do you know that she has top surgery? I was like, I don't know what that means. I'll find out later.

[Gabby]

It also might depend on what, like, corner of the Internet you're in, because I'm seeing a lot of topless trans men.

[Becca Moore]

Lots.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. It's in a very specific corner. I don't think that it's really made as much headway into mainstream, which is good. Don't look at us. We don't want to be involved. We're not. This is all good. It's fine if, you know, you know you can find us.

[Gabby]

Yeah, it is more like a little bit more niche.

[Becca Moore]

But you described it perfectly back to me. It's like, oh, a boob job. You know, some people want to feel more feminine and they want bigger. Bigger tits. Right. And some people want to feel less feminine and they want smaller tits.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. Yeah, totally. I can't now after knowing you and it's the only way, like I've known you, I just can't imagine you anyway else. And I love that there's a way to help you feel comfortable in your own body. And it's like when it comes to swimming, I don't know, it just makes it so much better, I feel. Not that we're swimming all the time. That should be like your main, like, reason for whatever, getting a surgery. But I don't know, I just like to see you comfortable in your body.

[Shannon]

Oh, sweet Shannon, Are you gonna get.

[Becca Moore]

It now that we've established you're officially non binary? They Them Shannon. Shannon goes by they Them Shannon. Yeah, that's her name. They Them Shannon.

[Gabby]

No, my boobs are small.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I think maybe if my boobs had been bigger, there would be a conversation I'd maybe have with myself. But yeah, I don't have like, any kind of dysphoria. Really tiny.

[Becca Moore]

But you have dysphoria about your hair. You're in a hair predicament right now.

[Gabby]

I just don't like My hair. But it's. I don't know how much of it is tied to femininity and masculinity and how much is just like I grew up hating my hair because I had really curly, frizzy hair. My mom didn't know how to do it. Just like my whole life I've been like at odds with my hair. And now I guess some of it has to do with just like gendered stuff kind of. I don't know. When I see pictures of myself with my long hair, I'm not like, ew. I'm just a weird in between Tarzan, Jesus length.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It's like the Lord Farquaad.

[Gabby]

Literally. Like, I used to wear my hair.

[Shannon]

Down all the time.

[Gabby]

And then I was. And then I wore it down when it was short. It's just from here to here. I don't want to wear it down. Which is a cut your hair.

[Shannon]

No, I like it.

[Gabby]

She wants me to grow it out, but it's not. It's also just to see it again. I mean, not just.

[Becca Moore]

I.

[Gabby]

So my hair is curly. Right, too. So it's easiest to do with it really, really short or really long.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

And I like to wear it in a ponytail. Like, I do think it's cute when I have it like 40 in a ponytail because it's like the right amount of girly for me. But it's not even there yet. I'm still.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So now it's really short right now.

[Gabby]

It's literally like this long. It's like long enough that I can't get the bottom hairs all in a ponytail.

[Robbie Hoffman]

The worst.

[Gabby]

It's the worst. But I'm getting it done tomorrow. I get it chemically straightened.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, good.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, how it stay straight?

[Gabby]

Like three to four months. It's pretty straight.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Wow.

[Gabby]

But it's like the roots right now are non straight. It's not. It's just frizzy. It's not even like curly.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Curly hair is a lot of work. I feel like you have to know your products. You have to go to your people. You have to know how to cut it. Yeah.

[Gabby]

And I just don't want. I want to have convenient hair. I want to have convenient all things getting ready.

[Becca Moore]

I had a buzz cut, so I play with my hair since the third grade. Like, literally.

[Gabby]

Oh, you do the twirl.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. So then I wouldn't be able to do that.

[Gabby]

Yeah, but you would probably develop a new. You'd probably be like going like this all the time, which would probably feel good.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. Honestly. Right. Maybe that would Be like, the fix to this.

[Becca Moore]

Do you want me to shave my head, Lovey, what do you think?

[Robbie Hoffman]

I think you should do whatever you want to do. I don't have. I really don't.

[Becca Moore]

I don't think I'm gonna shave my head. I think I'm fine like this.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I think that's fine. Yeah.

[Gabby]

You look so cute.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

I am a cutie.

[Gabby]

Thank you for seeing me.

[Becca Moore]

A bit of a cutie.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I also love your hair down, because she has curly hair, too. We're very curly.

[Becca Moore]

Very similar. Very similar. Very similar.

[Gabby]

Your hair is curly.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Wavy. I wouldn't say curly. I would say pretty wavy.

[Gabby]

Okay. I think I've seen it on Instagram.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

You see it, like, wavy.

[Becca Moore]

It's not like, you know, locked curls, but it's. Yeah.

[Gabby]

Do you. I feel like, for me, too, especially, like, being on camera and stuff, if it's pulled back, I know what it looks like, and then I feel comfortable because I'm like. I can control that. When it's down, I'm like, is it laying the way I want it to lay?

[Becca Moore]

No.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Like, down was just.

[Robbie Hoffman]

You just got to take a risk.

[Becca Moore]

I did it for a while, but then I always. I don't know, I always feel. I guess hair enhances so many women. Like, they think it, like, enhances their beauty. I felt like. I don't know. My face is probably the best part. No, I just.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I didn't see the hair.

[Becca Moore]

No, the hair, like, took away or it didn't enhance. Like, some women hair, like, they really feel like hair is a sign of beauty. Especially, you know, religious, like, you know, hair is always sign of beauty. For me, it didn't feel. I don't know. It didn't. It didn't. It wasn't great.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. There's not a lot of great options. I feel like for, like, I can't imagine era, like, girls or lesbians.

[Becca Moore]

No. Because it's just the whole.

[Gabby]

Exact hairstyle going on.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Or like, there's, like, the swoop.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And I do, like, horrible. No.

[Gabby]

I think we're going through a bad time right now as mask, like, lesbians. I think the hair. Hairstyles are not hitting that hard.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Because there's too many of us looking like this. So what's going. Like something's happening. We're all kind of like, I'm gonna.

[Becca Moore]

Take credit for that. If too many people. Too many people looking at me. That's what I'm going to say. I think I'm a little bit of a trendsetter.

[Gabby]

You started this.

[Becca Moore]

If that's the case. Because, no, the worst shaved head is a bad shaved head. You get in people with the faux hawk, you're getting people with the side shave. Like, the lesbian haircut drives me up a wall. Like, that's why I'm like, I don't know. I'm so torn. There's no space for me because I am so cringed out by lesbians and also so annoyed by they thems that I'm like, I just.

[Gabby]

And I'm like, and I love you guys.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

And by the way, this is how I love you. To complain is to enjoy for me. So if I'm not complaining about you, I don't fuck with you. So it's just. We know that we have a cringy predicament, but we're boyish girls. The whole thing is just a disaster.

[Gabby]

Except for I feel like we're winning right now. Yes. Kind of like a sweet spot for lesbians in general. Like, we're the coolest we've ever been.

[Shannon]

Yeah. You guys are trendy right now.

[Gabby]

So many people are like, men. And then they're looking.

[Shannon]

It's a good era for you guys.

[Gabby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It's like a hybrid.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It's like. Yes.

[Gabby]

And girls like us are sitting pretty, right, Robbie?

[Becca Moore]

We are. Because. Well, I think.

[Gabby]

I think gay men have a girlfriend.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Your turn.

[Becca Moore]

Gay men lost their handle on the culture and the arts and the. They were kind of at the forefront of setting style, fashion, arts and all that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And then West Hollywood, such downhill, I think.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. When Queer Eye came out, like the new iteration of Queer Eye. But me, like, I think that sort of cookie cutter gay aesthetic just like took over. Gay men, like, they were forgotten for the poets and the artists that they once were and the culture that they really champion and dyke subtle are the new bastions of style, of taste, honestly, of art. Like, we're really, you know, the intellectualism of art too is just. Dykes have, you know, really curated kind.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Of that like in what? Like witch in particular?

[Becca Moore]

Like, even, like, let's say anyone. Like, look at Ellen. Ellen Home design is unbelievable. The way she lived. Really, really good taste.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That's not like. I wouldn't say she's like. No, I'm thinking of like Billie Eil Eilish.

[Becca Moore]

Okay. Billie Eilish. Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

But I think her and kind of Renee Rap, I feel like, is dressing a little more masc.

[Gabby]

Yeah. But also now straight girls are too. Like, even. I don't want to say because I don't know what people's sexualities are. So I shouldn't say, but, like, just being a tomboy in general is, like, in style.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. But I will say I'm down with.

[Gabby]

I also think, unfortunately, this is so dark, but we. We have.

[Becca Moore]

Should say it.

[Gabby]

But, like, the AIDS crisis did kind of gay men.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. It killed so many of like, so.

[Gabby]

Many of those people who would have been, like, continuing on with the, like, poets and like, the artists, like, died, like, genuinely died.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So, yeah, totally. Thank God for prep. I was asking my gay friend because I'm just like, whatever, curious, obviously. I'm like, are you guys using condoms? He's like, fuck, no. I was like, oh, my God, what are you doing? He's like, prep.

[Gabby]

Like, everyone's on prep.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Everyone's on prep. And thank God it's not like, stigmatized or people don't want to do it or. I don't even know part of me, like the nursing me. It's like, what kind of side effects. But it's like, nobody cares. Obviously, this is saving your life.

[Becca Moore]

But even to speak to the sage crisis, another famously stylish and amazing dyke who maybe. Yeah. Who isn't, you know, Billie Eilish or young, but still very relevant. Like a Fran Leibowitz. She spoke to the States. Crisis and killing off, you know, who. Who got killed in the AIDS crisis. People who got aids. Who was getting aids. People who are fucking. Who was fucking People who were in the art circles in New York and, you know, have a good time. So we lost a lot of these people. But the dyke has been a subtle. We've never been screwed dreaming. It's always been a subtle and we've kind of stuck to it. So there's a subtle taste to it. Obviously, we have our West Hollywood constituents too. Shout out to the girls in the neon tanks and whatever the fuck, but you know what I mean? But there is. We didn't. As commercialized. There's still commercialization of it. But I think there's a more subtle. The subtlety of our masculinity is really, you know, the way that butch dykes apply masculinity is more subtle. It's not overbearing. I don't know. There's. There's something. There's something sophisticated about our balance.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Gabby]

When it doesn't go into toxicity, which it can as well when, like, lesbians try to act like men.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. Like fronted.

[Gabby]

Not masculinity, but like men, you know.

[Becca Moore]

And that's fine too. Do your thing.

[Robbie Hoffman]

But yeah, well, I Think when. Which I don't know. I can't really speak to that because I'm not a masculine lesbian. But I like being in a lesbian relationship because there's no gender nor norms. And I don't like.

[Shannon]

I actually like gender norms, which is fine.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She loves them. I'm like, where is this gonna go? Because I feel like we, like, see that a little differently. That's like a subtle, like, nudge, babe.

[Shannon]

Well, only in the sense we have to do less, Gabby. Like, I feel like I like it when Shannon, like. Like we were at the airport and I liked when you like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I love that suitcase. I love that. That's the one I love.

[Becca Moore]

No, I was gonna say we live.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Genuinely because we don't live it. I'm trying to get out of it.

[Becca Moore]

I'm the boy one. I'm kind of the boy one. Okay. She's the girl one. Boy one, girl one. For better or worse. There's more of a Venn diagram. There's more of an overlap, sure. But basically, what I like to explain to people is like, okay, so kind of like, we have the. The boy, we have the girl one. Kind of we have one and one again. We kind of have the boy, the girl. We live a very heteronormative lifestyle. Basically, the only gay thing about me is that I'm gay. But other than that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Babe, that's a stand up joke. I'm not even gay. She's into her bit.

[Becca Moore]

That's what I was. I did that joke.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Now she's working.

[Becca Moore]

That's okay. That's okay. I said that. I've said this. So I set up that it could be said. What were you gonna say before?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well, no, it's lost its moment.

[Becca Moore]

No, what is it?

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I was gonna say. Yeah, well, you were talking about, you know, mas. Like. Like what? Masculinity. Having a moment and like, fashion and culture. I was gonna. Gray suits are having a moment. Everybody's in a suit. I went to. Including me. We went to a L'Oreal Royale, women of Worth event. All of the lesbians were in a gray suit. I was doing something. I'm like, I'm playing with gender. I'm exploring.

[Becca Moore]

Well, you did it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And I showed up and everybody, like, all the lesbians were in a suit.

[Becca Moore]

There's two ways to succeed.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Everyone's the same.

[Becca Moore]

First or be the best. And you were the best.

[Gabby]

I feel like Becca and Robbie are really vibing right now.

[Becca Moore]

Everything Robbie says I wish I was was wrong. I wish I was. It'd Be easier on my life if I was wrong about more.

[Gabby]

That's a crazy quote.

[Shannon]

I agree.

[Gabby]

Honestly, my life would be easier if I was wrong about more.

[Becca Moore]

But then I have to go and spit the truth and people are mad. He's obsessed with you. It's crazy.

[Gabby]

You have to hold your mic to your mouth.

[Shannon]

Oh, he started off talking. He was like, sitting in front of me. And the like, the first half of the episode is going to be him.

[Robbie Hoffman]

A talking head with your voice.

[Gabby]

It's perfect.

[Shannon]

Shannon, this is your girlfriend now.

[Gabby]

I'll take it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Becca, how is your family with.

[Shannon]

It was good. They were so excited to meet Shannon. Like, my. Again. My sister was in love with her.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No.

[Becca Moore]

Like, there's some potential.

[Robbie Hoffman]

They don't care about you being gay.

[Gabby]

I think they just wanted to be.

[Shannon]

I think they forgot even that she. She was.

[Becca Moore]

They did not.

[Shannon]

The entire time. Like, you're not that you're a boy. But, like, they didn't even. It wasn't even like a topic that came up. Like, so when were you. When.

[Gabby]

Yeah. No one was asking. It was just.

[Shannon]

No asking question. It was just as if I had brought a normal.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon]

But it was just as if I.

[Gabby]

Brought a normal person home.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Have you met your family?

[Shannon]

Yeah, I met all of them.

[Gabby]

My family is around, like, coming to la.

[Shannon]

They do. They come to LA a lot and.

[Gabby]

I spend a lot of time with them.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, that's nice.

[Gabby]

Just in general, mine is pretty much stuck in Ohio.

[Shannon]

We are poor, so they can't. Like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We were just mixes.

[Gabby]

We report. Wait, how was Regina?

[Becca Moore]

They could call where my family lives Regina. They could call it Regina. They do go out of their way.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know.

[Shannon]

My manager.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon]

My manager. Shout out to you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Everyone says it's the city that rhymes with fun.

[Shannon]

I'm like, she keeps trying to make to go. She's like, they have a lake house somewhere.

[Gabby]

It's actually really funny.

[Becca Moore]

Really?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Really?

[Shannon]

Is it pretty?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Is there a lake there?

[Becca Moore]

No.

[Shannon]

No. It's not trying to make me go. She wants me to go and do, like a series of, like, experiencing Regina. But I'm like, there's so many places in the US that I could do that.

[Gabby]

Like, why would I. Yeah, why would.

[Becca Moore]

You go to Regina?

[Robbie Hoffman]

She has very middle America. But it was good meeting Robbie's family. I met like five of the siblings.

[Becca Moore]

No, stop.

[Robbie Hoffman]

They're like, there's. You guys are so warm and welcoming as a people.

[Becca Moore]

Thank you.

[Gabby]

Are you one of nine or 10?

[Becca Moore]

I'm one of 10.

[Shannon]

Are you like the star of your family.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. Yes.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

I would say I'm the most, like, public, if that's what you mean.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well, I mean, like, the star of. People also like to, like, sit back and laugh at you, like, when you're. At you. When your mom was playing music and you were, like, imitating old ladies at a bah. You were doing something so crazy and funny. Watching your siblings, like, sit back and laugh, which is, like, so sweet and so attractive. A.

[Becca Moore]

That was.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Being nicer.

[Becca Moore]

No, but my family is so funny, and I think everyone's funny of my actually. And it's too bad you didn't experience. One of my brothers is sick right now. So my mother was a little distracted with that, obviously, and she wasn't really herself, but we normally laugh at her. And she is also the funniest person, but she had a lot on her mind.

[Gabby]

That's fair.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

So you think that's where you got your sense of humor? Your mom just.

[Becca Moore]

The whole family and the whole culture is just, you know, people always ask me what's, like, my comedy influence or whatever, and it's always the family, because it's like, yeah, okay, Chris Rock is funny, but nobody's funnier than my brother Shmuley.

[Gabby]

Like, you know what I mean?

[Becca Moore]

It's like. It's like whoever you looked up to, I'm like, Shmuley is just, like, sibling humor.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It's like, that's who you think is the funniest because you love them, but.

[Becca Moore]

Not even, like, their humor. Even when they came into a hotel. So my mother paid for us to stay at the Dazen.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She loves this story.

[Becca Moore]

No. And it never hits, but for me, it hits. And that's all that matters. That's all that matters.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

No, I'm very hot.

[Robbie Hoffman]

But the first time I picture the.

[Becca Moore]

Worst, like, motel, hotel off a highway, middle of nowhere.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Now it's what it is.

[Becca Moore]

I know. Becca's got me. And, you know, it's just middle of nowhere, like, bad. Holiday Inn Express, whatever. And we're in the hotel. My little brother comes in, helping us with bags, and he looks out the window. He's like, wow, Beautiful view of the highway. And he really meant it.

[Gabby]

No, but it was genuine.

[Becca Moore]

He was so genuine. He's like, wow. Wow. You really get to see, like, he was really impressed.

[Shannon]

Are you sure?

[Robbie Hoffman]

You end up making a joke.

[Becca Moore]

He was not making a joke in the least.

[Shannon]

That's the funniest part about it. I do know.

[Becca Moore]

So that. That's, you know, also. I'll show you a video, and you can. You know.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I was gonna say we just actually came back from visiting my family, and they are, like, a little more conservative, so we, like, try and break the ice. By we, I mean, Robbie and I don't even know how. Well, I do know how. How it got brought up, but Robbie could not. We were like. The whole family was sitting around. Extended family. Like, a lot of people. There's chairs, like, behind the couch. And Robbie could not stop saying scissoring.

[Gabby]

No.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. My dad was like, whatever. He has, like, a lesbian friend. He's like, oh, she's saying hi. And Robbie's like, send the scissor emoji. And then my aunt was like, what? Scissoring? And then, like, nobody could stop saying scissoring.

[Becca Moore]

I actually got in trouble that. She's like, you literally need to.

[Robbie Hoffman]

It was like a compulsion. She couldn't stop. She's like. She had to say it.

[Becca Moore]

Well, they kept sending people into our room, so I said, if you're going to send people into the room, we're scissoring here.

[Gabby]

We never even asked y'all if you scissor.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Do you guys? No, but I'd be down.

[Gabby]

You don't even scissor.

[Becca Moore]

No, we don't, baby.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I.

[Gabby]

You haven't even tried it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Our. We're like. Our proportions.

[Becca Moore]

I feel like this is my brother describing intake process. You don't even need to know what he's described, but just. He's a security guard, and he came to the hotel to hang out. One of my sisters checked out in the background, but this was what Gabby was in because it's a girl. What does that mean?

[Shannon]

Anyway, she's great, so great.

[Gabby]

Disneyland movies, kind of crap.

[Becca Moore]

I'm very nice.

[Gabby]

They gave you three months.

[Becca Moore]

We know the system, man. That's what you're doing. He's an intake. It's not like prison.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay, baby?

[Gabby]

Exact same cadence of your.

[Shannon]

The way you talk.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

It's like.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No matter what you say is funny, but.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Some of you, like, it's not even a bit. And it is what, like, makes me laugh the most is when you're just like, okay, get out. Okay, enough. But I feel like your mom is like, yes. And it's like, you know, it doesn't come from a bad place. Placements like, that actually always hits.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. My mother was always like, move my. So I'm a move. You know that's right.

[Gabby]

Do you, like, expect people to laugh when you say it, or.

[Becca Moore]

No, I. I'm.

[Gabby]

You're Being just yourself.

[Becca Moore]

Move, please. Now I start adding please because people like manners. I'm like, move, please. May you please.

[Shannon]

We must have been friends in high school.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We would. Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

May you please move?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Do you guys think you would have been friends? Friends in high school?

[Shannon]

I think you were more sporty than I was.

[Gabby]

I was.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Or you did want to be your friend, but she wants to be Robbie.

[Gabby]

I know. Are we doing, like a couple small?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

I like.

[Shannon]

You're like a character. I feel like you would say funny things and no one else would probably laugh. In high school, everyone's like, I don't know, maybe other people.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I had odd friends in high school.

[Shannon]

Oh, not that you're.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I said I was friends with everybody.

[Becca Moore]

Odd friends.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, you're not odd, but odd for, like, people who you looked.

[Becca Moore]

I had. It felt very personal. You can understand.

[Shannon]

Wait, Robby, were you. Were you popular in high school?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Becca Moore]

Here's the whole thing. There was the popular girls.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. And we were just below them. We were pretty good standing. So there was like the really popular rich. Rich. Rich. Then there was some popular clingers.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Terrible situation to be in. And then I was kind of in the riff raff here. Okay. I was only poor. I was still friends with rich kids, but I was poor. So, you know, I brought down the group to some extent. And then, you know, and then there were like, you know, then there were people who were kind of really riff raff. Riff, riff. And then there were like, losers. And then there was like the decrepit. Whatever, you know?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Was it an all girls school?

[Becca Moore]

No, babe, you went to my high school recently. Union.

[Gabby]

I would have seen Tik Tok.

[Becca Moore]

So I would say my. My grade. My grade was clicky. Except we had a really large. The clicks merged a lot better than some of.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Small school was so small.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. Well, we had 100 kids in my grade or 120.

[Robbie Hoffman]

So really everyone could be popular in their own mind.

[Becca Moore]

No, they weren't. It was hickey. But like, our group, we were like, next up. And I had lots of different friends, but I kind of had nerdy, like, English type friends. But I also had, like jappy friends. Shout out to my Japanese brothers and sisters. This is not about you. This is about Jewish American princess. Okay. And I had a little bit of both. But I always led with personality. I guess being the poor kid or the rich school. Something that was really just natural that I contribute where I can and I contribute with the hot goss topics.

[Gabby]

I think you guys would Be friends.

[Becca Moore]

I bring home the tea. I got the goss on peep. I'm not afraid to say nothing to no one.

[Robbie Hoffman]

That's true. You're not like, you're a good goss. And that you bring home, like, I'm like, tea now. I'm thinking of testosterone, but. But you bring. Bring it home. But you also cannot keep a secret.

[Shannon]

That's why I love you. I think if we were partners for, like, a project would be awesome. I would love hearing about.

[Becca Moore]

That's it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Shannon, do you feel left out?

[Gabby]

No, I'm feeling good.

[Shannon]

No, I feel like Shannon was, like, not trying to, like, I don't know you in high school, but I feel like you probably weren't trying to, like, stand out because you were just in the closet and you were, like, really focused on that.

[Gabby]

Well, I thought it was, like, mildly finely popular until I went to a party in LA and this girl was like, I went to Hebron. And I was like, oh, my God. Wait. Yeah, I kind of remember you. Like, do you remember me? And she's like, no. And I was like, okay, you could just lie, literally. And I was like, in my head, I'm like, I don't really fucking remember you either. I.

[Becca Moore]

How many people were in your school.

[Gabby]

Straight up looked at me and goes, no, I don't remember you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

We, like, this is a bad setup.

[Gabby]

Okay. There were a lot of kids in my school. I had like 650 in my. My class.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

So I don't really. I wasn't that offended. I'm like, yeah, we were all blended.

[Shannon]

Wait, were you popular yet?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Me?

[Becca Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Gabby]

Really did.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I was Ms. O foul in 2008. Yeah. You're looking at a queen. Yeah. I almost got my crown taken away because a picture surfaced on Facebook of me, like, chugging from a handle of Captain Morgan, but. But I got to keep it. They were like, that's our girl. That's our royalty. That's our girl.

[Gabby]

That's crazy. It's crazy to think about how much, like, high school just does not matter at all.

[Shannon]

I know. It's funny when you're there, it's like.

[Gabby]

This is like, I'm gonna die here.

[Shannon]

Because I'm gonna remember everything you guys said about your popularity status forever.

[Becca Moore]

Were you. What were you.

[Shannon]

No, I wasn't like that. I mean, I was poor. I went to a different middle school in ele elementary school then most people, so I was like, at a disadvantage. Disadvantage. Yeah. But I. I mean, I don't knew me.

[Gabby]

She said, everyone knew Me.

[Becca Moore]

They knew who they had to know. People knew.

[Robbie Hoffman]

They.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but there were, like. There was like, a group of, like, five girls, and they were like the main girls, and I wasn't. I didn't know them very well.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. I'm like. I guess I don't even know who was popular.

[Gabby]

Right.

[Shannon]

Because it's really.

[Becca Moore]

Because you were lovey.

[Gabby]

If you don't know.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay. Well, I had lots of odd friends. Yeah. Doubling down.

[Gabby]

Also, I wanted. You said that your proportions are not right for scissoring. And I'm still thinking about that.

[Becca Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

My. I just feel like my legs are so long. I know her. She's just out the whole time. She's like. I don't.

[Shannon]

It is kind of hard to scissor, though. It's like a lot of energy.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Did you guys. I'm genuinely curious. Did you do the. The legs like this?

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Gabby]

Like. Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

But you're not on opposite sides of the bed, are you? On opposite sides of the bed?

[Gabby]

We were.

[Shannon]

No, no, we've done that.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I mean, that sounds like fun. I would just want to, I guess, like, grind.

[Gabby]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

I don't know that it would do anything for me.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well, you could. About me.

[Gabby]

I feel like it definitely can work. It is a lot of work.

[Shannon]

I get it when it feels good, like when we're really on the right rhythm, you know?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. I just like the idea of touching each other's private.

[Gabby]

Yeah. I think that's more of the inspiration.

[Becca Moore]

I think of my privates. Like, here's my whole thing. It's like, I actually. And I've seen enough. Mine isn't that pretty. I don't know what they meant. I don't know what we're doing.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I think that is your dysphoria.

[Becca Moore]

Because objectively speaking, something. You want to know the honest truth. Never share this with anyone. This is horrifying. But you know what? It's all part of a natural growing experience. So I feel like I could share it. This is so embarrassing, but at the time, I'm 13. Why should I be embarrassed as a kid. But I am a less okay as a kid. The way that I masturbated was with the. If you're in my family and we have one bathroom. Growing up is what it is.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Was with the faucet.

[Becca Moore]

Was with the faucet and the bath. But our faucet. My house is so old. The faucet was very strong. And I believe it stretched my lips out. I do believe that I got addicted to it for a short Period of time.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She. When she was saying it, that water was freezing cold.

[Becca Moore]

That water was getting cold. Okay. That water was getting cold. No, the bath faucet.

[Shannon]

Wait, how did you do that? What'd you do?

[Becca Moore]

I was scissor.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Really?

[Shannon]

Ow.

[Becca Moore]

Not ow at all.

[Shannon]

I don't know what I'm picturing. I don't understand.

[Becca Moore]

Your legs are up. Here's my legs under the faucet.

[Gabby]

Faucet. That's like down.

[Becca Moore]

Here's the faucet. Here's the bath.

[Shannon]

Look.

[Becca Moore]

Bath faucet. Me. My. My body.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah. Yeah, but you're. I will say.

[Becca Moore]

And you're in the bath. It's nice.

[Gabby]

I get it. You still don't get it.

[Becca Moore]

No, she does get it.

[Shannon]

She's just.

[Becca Moore]

She's. She. She's too fast. Too bad.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Yeah. Well, that makes sense.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Well. Well, that's a lot of.

[Becca Moore]

By the way.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Your mother used that, too.

[Becca Moore]

By the way, Becca, your mother used that, too. She told you.

[Gabby]

She told you.

[Becca Moore]

She told you. It was a back massager. I guarantee your mother.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I don't think. Anyways, it's probably. You're. I don't know.

[Shannon]

I used to use the couch cushions, too.

[Becca Moore]

No, I never did.

[Shannon]

Well, not what you guys.

[Gabby]

First of all, what are y'all talking about? I think your vagina was. The way your vagina was telling you.

[Becca Moore]

I remember a difference.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, I remember knowing. I am trying to. I am stretching this out of it.

[Gabby]

Would you ever get, like, a labiaplastic?

[Becca Moore]

I should. I really should not.

[Gabby]

I should.

[Becca Moore]

I really should.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No, you shouldn't.

[Gabby]

No, it should or shouldn't, but many people do. And I don't think there should be any shame around it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

No. And there's lots of different shapes and sizes. Like, really. It comes in all kinds.

[Becca Moore]

That would probably make me feel a.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Lot better if you got a labiaplastic.

[Gabby]

Oh, my gosh. Do it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Wow, that just sounds painful Anywhere.

[Gabby]

I didn't have one, but I know people who have had one, and it was pain. They got the people I know who've had it, because you can do it for cosmetic reasons, but the person. People that I know did it for pain because they were, like, running, and then their labia was just, like, bothering them.

[Becca Moore]

So it's not. I don't have. Okay. By the way.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She's like, by the way.

[Gabby]

Insurance. But I'm just saying insurance will cover it if you're having pain. So you could maybe lie. Well, don't send your doctor this.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

On the record, I have one lady at loan.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Do like a lidocaine. Same block. You probably don't even have to go under.

[Becca Moore]

Well, because it's not your. That they're touching. I don't want them to touch that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Do they cut it off?

[Becca Moore]

Whoa.

[Gabby]

Yeah. And then I think you get, like, just a couple stitches on each side.

[Robbie Hoffman]

And it's so vascular, it probably heals fast.

[Gabby]

It's like. Yeah, like.

[Becca Moore]

Like I'm gonna look up.

[Gabby]

Is how much skin on your lip, your labia, and your nipples the same skin?

[Becca Moore]

Yes. Wait. Mike says my little sister Yehudis checked out in the back background.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay, baby.

[Becca Moore]

That's my favorite. She doesn't give a. Okay, I'm looking up. You're getting.

[Robbie Hoffman]

If you're.

[Becca Moore]

If you're getting surgery. Maybe I am. Labyrinth.

[Shannon]

All right, what are you getting?

[Robbie Hoffman]

I. I want it all. She always wants, but I want a lip lift.

[Becca Moore]

See, this is her big thing.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Okay.

[Gabby]

Someone just told me that the number one sign of aging is that your lip becomes further away from your nose.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah, I didn't know that. And yeah, I'm ahead of the game, so I gotta start early.

[Becca Moore]

No, it's only thousand dollars.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I do. But it doesn't help. I'm talking about the actual length. I don't want to change my lip.

[Gabby]

Yeah, literally.

[Shannon]

I would never, ever, ever think that you should do that.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Oh, I just got to make it a little smaller. Nobody will know the difference.

[Gabby]

Well, you can do whatever you want with your body.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Thank you.

[Becca Moore]

I would let you go down on me all the time if I had a labia plastic.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Hey, let's get one.

[Becca Moore]

$3,000.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Not that you need one.

[Becca Moore]

You know what? I just booked a weekend in Vermont. Probably 4,000. Vermont? You're paying for my labiaplasty. On that note, I appreciate you.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Thank you for coming to this episode of Long Winded.

[Becca Moore]

Is that it?

[Robbie Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Becca Moore]

Babe, we didn't even. That was it.

[Robbie Hoffman]

She's just getting started.

[Becca Moore]

Okay, thank you.

[Gabby]

How long did we go?

[Becca Moore]

Follow me. Robbie Hoffman on Instagram.

[Gabby]

Yeah, we really did.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I'm.

[Gabby]

Now this is living on everything.

[Shannon]

I'm Becca Moore Never podcast.

[Gabby]

Yes, we just. That's the most I've ever heard Becca talk. Talk about sex. Is. Honestly with you guys Both times, though.

[Becca Moore]

We're very comfortable.

[Shannon]

I'm in my villain era again.

[Becca Moore]

This is a good double setup. I actually don't like a lot. Like I've asked her. I said I'd like to go on another double with Shannon.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know.

[Becca Moore]

We should. I should have said this.

[Robbie Hoffman]

I know, but.

[Becca Moore]

Cuz we had such a good time. I really wasn't expecting it cuz I was like influencer love. I don't. Please note that this episode may contain.

[Gabby]

Paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products.

[Robbie Hoffman]

Or services referred to in this episode.