Bosco

Summary

Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast: Long Winded with Gabby Windey

Host: Gabby Windey
Guest: Bosco (RuPaul’s Drag Race)
Episode: “Bosco”
Date: September 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Gabby Windey sits down with Bosco—fan-favorite from RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 14 and All Stars Season 10—for a candid conversation that spans drag, surgery, self-image, performing, relationships, and life after reality TV. True to Gabby's style, the chat is honest, irreverent, and heartfelt, exploring both light and heavy topics with humor and realness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Behind the Scenes of Drag & Reality TV

• The Reality of Drag and All Stars

  • Gabby praises Bosco’s iconic performances, especially her Christina Aguilera burlesque moment on All Stars.
    • Gabby: “Did you feel like there was a God in that moment?” [06:05]
    • Bosco laughs about how production seemed to favor her with that song/segment: “Or at least there's somebody in production in that room that really liked me.” [06:05]
  • Bosco discusses competing against veterans like Ginger Minj and how returning to All Stars is both rewarding and physically/mentally taxing.
    • “It’s hard on the money, hard on the brain, hard on the body.” [07:51]

• Filming Realities

  • The lengthy, demanding days of filming, especially in drag (“Drag is like you’re slowly falling apart the moment you put it all on.” [08:10])
  • Gabby and Bosco bond over the love-hate relationship with reality TV fame: “My brain immediately forgets all the trauma as soon as I see it back and get the attention.” [08:54]

Gender Affirmation & Plastic Surgery

• Bosco’s Transition Journey

  • Deep dive into facial feminization surgery (FFS), breast augmentation, and personal transformation.
  • “I just wanted to see what I would look like if I didn’t go through a testosterone-based puberty.” [19:37]
  • Gabby and Bosco share surgical red flags and the importance of “vibes” with surgeons.
    • Gabby: “One celebrity surgeon literally had frosted tips... How can I trust you with my face?” [23:38]

• Choosing Surgeons and Results

  • The technical side—details on implants, brow reshaping, recovery time, and fat transfers.
  • Memorable moment: “I want an angel to work on my face and a pervert to work on my body.” [13:13]
  • Both discuss how cosmetic transformation is about feeling more oneself rather than just aesthetics.

The Drag Community & Personal Style

• Seattle Drag & Sisterhood

  • Bosco on Seattle’s vibrant drag scene and local queens (claiming Jinx Monsoon and BenDeLaCreme).
    • “There are really, really fab queens there. I just kept on watching them, like, ‘I think I can do this.’ So I stole all their tricks and took off on my own.” [27:06]
  • Drag inspirations, specifically Alaska: “She just tackles things within her own lane… Sometimes you have to find your own dip, your own jump split.” [58:05]

• Touring Life

  • The highs and lows of frequent touring—fun, lucrative, but also “really lonely.” [29:47]
  • Bosco’s upcoming plans, including group tours: “There’s a Christmas tour that a bunch of us are on—Christmas Queens.” [30:15]

Relationships, Love & Lifestyle

• Bosco & Her Longtime Boyfriend

  • “He’s just been with me through all the really, really heavy and major stuff... I love him so much. Love you, Blake.” [30:57]
  • Gabby asks about marriage: “I turned 30 and that kind of flipped for me... Mama wants a wedding.” [36:33]

• Balancing Fame with ‘Normal Life’

  • On her boyfriend’s grounding influence: “My problems are not real people problems... He keeps me tethered to reality.” [36:03]
  • Love for horses (Blake owns a horse named Ted).

• No Desire for Kids

  • Both agree neither feel called to parenthood, citing selfishness, laziness, and a lack of “cute baby gene.”
    • Bosco: “To be a good parent, you can’t be those things. So I just know I’d be a bad parent.” [41:34]

Humor, Communication, and Cattiness

• Texting, Voice Notes, and Thumbs Up

  • Amused discussion of digital etiquette, from ignoring emails to the pettiness of thumbs up/downs in group chats.
    • Bosco: “A thumbs up is so professional and detached and nasty. A thumbs down is like a middle finger.” [45:14]
  • The perils of group chat drama with other queens (Mistress and Diabetti stories).

• Memorable Cattiness

  • Gabby: “You guys are so cute together. I love the sisterhood.” [52:53]
  • Bosco: “Concepts are for ugly girls.” [52:38] (on not doing shock-y performance art)

Confidence, Competition & Self-Roasting

• Embracing Imperfection

  • Both roast themselves and recount lessons from queens like Alaska and Mistress on handling public perception:
    • Bosco: “Rather than fight back, [Alaska] rolled with it and made fun of herself... That’s how you handle controversy.” [58:42]
    • “None of you have ever said anything worse about me than I’ve said about myself.” [59:00]

• Comparisons East vs. West Coast

  • Amusing observations about personalities and “pace” on each coast, with Gabby poking fun at East Coast intensity vs. their own West Coast chill.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bosco on Reality TV:
  “Drag is like you’re slowly falling apart the moment you’ve put it all on.” [08:10]

• On Choosing Surgeons:
  Bosco: “I want, like, an angel to work on my face and I want a pervert to work on my body.” [13:13]
  Gabby: “One celebrity surgeon had frosted tips… bro, I gotta cancel. I can’t have you working on my face.” [23:38]

• On Thumbs Up/Downs:
  Bosco: “A thumbs up is so professional and detached and nasty. A thumbs down is like a middle finger.” [45:14]

• On Drag Community:
  Gabby: “You guys are so cute together. Like, I love the sisterhood.” [52:53]
  Bosco: “Concepts are for ugly girls.” [52:38]

• On Relationship Dynamics:
  Bosco: “My problems… are not real people problems. He keeps me humble.” [36:03]

• On Perseverance and Self-Image:
  Bosco: “You just have to find your own dip. You have to find your own jump split.” [58:19]

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Key Timestamps

• Drag & All Stars: [02:30–08:54]
• Plastic Surgery & Transition: [12:06–23:38]
• Seattle Drag Scene & Touring: [26:09–30:26]
• Relationships & Life After TV: [30:47–37:12]
• Communication, Group Chat Etiquette: [43:22–47:54]
• Show Inspirations, Living in Vegas, and Tall Girl Problems: [59:16–63:17]

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Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, affirming, and deeply honest—Gabby gives space for vulnerability and laughter; Bosco’s dry wit shines throughout, with both sharing personal details and trading playful, insightful banter.

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Where to Find Bosco

• Instagram: @hereisBosco
• Website: hereisbosco.com (tour dates, merch, projects) [64:05]

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Closing Thoughts

This episode offers an honest and hilarious look at drag artistry, transformation, and life after reality TV. Gabby and Bosco offer valuable wisdom about self-love, resilience, and community, all laced with sharp wit and pop culture savvy. Fans of drag, reality TV, and anyone interested in LGBTQ+ stories will find this episode especially resonant and entertaining.

Transcript

[Bosco]

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[Bosco]

I would love to talk into my mic. Is everything registering? Can I move it just a little bit?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, please. I. I know it's a little.

[Bosco]

You are a one woman show. You better work. Tech crew, Filmography, cinematography, audio. Do you edit yourself?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, that's where I draw the line.

[Bosco]

I think that's so fair. I Did one video myself where I like, it was a YouTube thing, and I edited myself. I'm like, I can't spend eight hours looking at myself and listening to myself.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

That is a form of torture.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, it is. Yes. It's masochistic. I'm like, in the time it takes, I just send it over to my dudes and they do what they do best. They recolor the cams. And cut. Oh, my God, I'm so excited.

[Bosco]

We have to get a picture together. Otherwise my friends and my manager will send me a bomb. Like, they. They're obsessed with you. Every time. I'm just like, what are you doing today?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Like, I get to be g. No.

[Bosco]

It's so close. It's so fun.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. No, I'm so excited. I started watching this, like, Season of All Stars. Fell in love with you, obviously, right away. Yes. No, you're just so hot.

[Bosco]

It's like, it's a job, it's a calling. It's like my vocation. Oh, I just shot with Bob yesterday.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Bobby Grey Queen.

[Bosco]

She. Hi.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Hi.

[Bosco]

Hey, Bob.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Hi.

[Bosco]

Yeah, she says return her text.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally, like, we're always in a cat fight.

[Bosco]

Always. No, that doesn't text back either. So I don't want to hear anything from her.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I know we're on. Like, we'll get in different, whatever, moods where I'm, like, in the mood to text and she's not, and then vice versa. I'm like, come on, please. Let's just get it together for once. And she's so funny. I watched you. I watched you on her, like, a couple years ago.

[Bosco]

Oh, yeah, well, when she bamboozled me and entrapped me into saying mean things about black people.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

And did you see she actually did it in the edit?

[Bosco]

No.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Of course.

[Bosco]

Little asshole. So this time I Like when I was sitting in the room, just like. So you just have to say you hate trans women. Like, you just like. We're not even gonna, like, edit it together. Just say it so I can have it on. It's gonna be like my text ringtone when she calls.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Literally, you're like, from my mouth to God's ear.

[Bosco]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Can't stand them.

[Bosco]

Say it again.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Say that louder, sister. What are you in town for?

[Bosco]

I am here to mine as much content out of other people. So this is going great. And then I'm also working while I'm here. I'm doing, like, the Hamburger Mary's Loop, and then I'm at Mickey's on Friday and just, like, cross Dressing and pretending to sing other people's songs.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, I love it. Do you have a favorite lip sync?

[Bosco]

I do. I have a few. I'm really lazy. I love a mid tempo song to jostle my breasts too. So I really like, like, a Jessie Ware banger and Amy Winehouse.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Jesse Ware. Yes. Oh, my godlights.

[Bosco]

My.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Like, literally, she needs representation. I'm like, oh, my God. But no, I feel like that's. You give, like, the dry, hot girls representation. No, this is what I need because I can't be, like, jumping around all the time. But you want to be, like, performings in your blood.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. I want to. Like, my favorite is, like, when I can make the entire crowd, like, clap. I just like looking at them. I just, like, look up slowly and smile, like, Exactly. Your lash is kind of like blowing off the wrong way.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

On all Stars when you did the burlesque to Christina Aguilera, I'm like, no, but you were so good and even watching the whole thing, like, whatever the brackets and stuff. But, like, did you feel like there was a God in that moment?

[Bosco]

Absolutely, there was a God. Or at least there's somebody in production in that room that really liked me. I'm like, there's no way anybody else should get the burlesque song. No, I'm gonna wear the burlesque outfit.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. Because you came.

[Bosco]

Click. If I don't get to do the burlesque song at least.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

So I was very like, oh, thank you. Yes, it all came together.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, it was incredible.

[Bosco]

It immediately fell apart.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Like, come on, can't there be two burlesque songs? Because did you go up against Ginger?

[Bosco]

I did, yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Jon Jer. What was like, the whole, like. I mean, this is her fourth time. She's obviously amazing.

[Bosco]

She's incredible. She's also taking an open book quiz at this point. I hope you're good at it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Four time. What do you mean? I hope you have the answers.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally, she's had so much practice and she has her character just, like, so reined in. But I'm like, were you guys like, like, were you like, what the fuck?

[Bosco]

A little bit. So I wasn't in, like, her original bracket, so I was kind of like, oh, my God, it's me and Irene. We're the ones. And then we get to the.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

You guys are so cute together.

[Bosco]

There's a few, few ones, isn't there?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Did you know who was in the other brackets?

[Bosco]

Yeah. By the time we had gotten done, we'd, like, heard of everybody that was going to Be there.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

And yeah, it was just. It's very intimidating to go up against somebody who's like done well that many times and also done it that many times. But I don't know. I do such a different thing than Ginger. I'm like, I'm not competing in her lane.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

Yeah, we'll just see what they want this year and they wanted her and it's fine.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we gotta give her. So then like, are you gonna do it again?

[Bosco]

Would never do All Stars again unless they called me and asked me. Yeah, like, absolutely. The best time to be on TV is like now.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like it's, it's always, it's always fab and like it's such a great opportunity and it lets me do such cool things.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I'll never like say that I would never come back and do things. I would love to. I definitely want some time though, because it's just hard on the money, hard on the brain, hard on the body.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah. Hard on the stress level.

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

It's intense even. Do you like being on tv? I mean, obviously watching it back, but do you like the actual filming?

[Bosco]

I don't really like the, the, the how the sausage is made of tv. It's really hard. Especially when you're in drag because drag is like you're slowly falling apart. The moment you've put it all on, I'm dead. Just like hurting. And it's TV so long.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

It takes like full like 12, 13, 14 hour days to get these shots and you're just like in pain, tired and hungry. And reality TV's intense, as I'm sure you know.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally, it's always the worst. I know being there, but then watching it back, I'm like, oh, I love attention.

[Bosco]

I know, that's the thing. I'm like, oh my God, this, I would never do this again. And then I see it back and I get like the, the, the attention from people and like the like opportunities and like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

My brain immediately forgets about all the trauma.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Put me back for later. And when you see a camera, there's something you just like turn on. Yeah. Am I Exactly.

[Bosco]

You just activated. Just like take it up a few steps.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I love it. And like I was going to go back cuz I was on Dancing with the Stars with Charlie Dilio.

[Bosco]

Yes. That's so that's one of the 1 reality TV shows. I'm like, I think that one would be really fun.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Would you. You'd be so good and like hot and sexy.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. Although they'd have to find a really tall boy for me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Cuz I'm like, right?

[Bosco]

Six foot six, one without any heels on.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, true. And they are kind of made small. Like I was the same size probably as Val. He'll kill me if I admit it, but I'm like, you can watch it back.

[Bosco]

You know what I mean? Like, they have to make them small. That way the horse can go fast.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. So they can go fast. Their hips.

[Bosco]

And like gymnasts.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally. Yes, I am. Val started wearing like the Cuban heels that were extra. They had an inch.

[Bosco]

That's crazy. Val, you watching?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. He's literally gonna kill me. No. And then he had the audacity to complain. I'm like, you're complaining about your feet?

[Bosco]

You're look what's on my five inch.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

Yeah. And then you're having to do it all backwards. And like three plus inch, like, girl.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally my legs up in the air and like your arches are falling. What about me? I can barely complain.

[Bosco]

Yes, I'm here, President. Read the Roomsville. Like, I am absolutely doing way more than you are, sir.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally. Look alive. Like you've been doing this your whole life. You don't understand how hard we work.

[Bosco]

You haven't like, worn heels before, sir.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

Ballroom expert. I don't believe it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, I don't believe it. Him at home, getting into his wife's heels just to feel tall. Just to feel five, eight, literally. Yeah, yeah. No, he says he's like five, six and a half. No, I'm getting. That's pushing it. No, that's pushing it. Cuz I'm probably 6ft with heels on.

[Bosco]

Yes. I, you know, I was like kind of getting like, oh my God. I did not expect you to be like, tall. When I. When I pulled up today, I'm like, that's fabulous.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, I know. Yeah, same. I know. And being around other tall girls, like, you can like kind of at least look like straight instead of like doing this. This moment.

[Bosco]

You're like, oh, my God, I really hope I got my nose hairs today.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. No, me, Never. I know. I got it. Yes. Well, how do you feel? Like after everything. How did you. Wait. So going back on All Stars. So they called you? They did, yeah. That's what they do to everybody.

[Bosco]

They do. They kind of like do like a temperature check. They're like, hey, would you be interested?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Okay, cool. And then like, they'll send you like an official offer or whatnot. Or they're like, hey, we're considering you for it. And then you'll eventually get, like, the finalized. Like, okay, this is what's going to happen. This is. We want you. Yes or no. And I had said no to a previous season because it was just too soon for me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Soon. Right.

[Bosco]

It was like the season right after I'd done 14.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I'm like, I need some time to air.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

And I don't want to compete and show off the same things that I'd done before.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

If it wasn't good enough for a regular season, why would it be good enough for All Stars? So I waited until, like, I had done, like, a lot of work on my craft, a lot of work on my face, a lot of work on my chest.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

You have an amazing boob job.

[Bosco]

Thank you.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Who did you go to? Really?

[Bosco]

Yeah. Beverly Hills. I'm Dr. Brian Shop.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm like, give us the Kylie Jenner. The cc's, the profile.

[Bosco]

What is the CCS? I think it's a 345 cc. I think it's the. The anatomical teardrop moment.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yes.

[Bosco]

And then he does, like, a really, really cool. It's like mid plane or something. I can't remember the exact. It's like some. It's not under the muscle. It's not over the muscle.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

There's something else in the middle or something. Wow. Oh, yeah. Fascia. Okay, girl. Fascia. Titty.

[Bosco]

I kind of, like, feel bad, though, because me and Carrie went to the same doctor within weeks of each other. And everybody talks about my poops, but not hers.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Wait, I'm dead. Yes. Yours look, like, so natural.

[Bosco]

Thank you.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I mean, right? Like the way they bounce.

[Bosco]

I do love the bounce.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

They do have, like, that little supernatural, just invisible bra where they just stay exactly where I want them to be, which is nice. I just let Jesus take the wheel for the. I'm just like, there you go, sir. You are the expert here.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I'm gonna let you do what you think is appropriate.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

I want, like, an angel to work on my face and I want a pervert to work on my body. Like, I think he definitely proved that he has, like, some pervert in him.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, absolutely. They all, like, if you're doing boob jobs. Do you watch Real Housewives of Miami? There's no Lisa's ex husband who did everyone's tits. And hers are like, inner chin, but they look great. Absolutely. It's like you need the pervert, Jane.

[Bosco]

It's like the box boys like those. Those guys seem like perverts, right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

The guys who do box, know who those. Oh, yeah, those two doctors, like, those also. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. One of them. Yeah. No, they have to be. They're like taking your photo afterwards. You're like, I don't care.

[Bosco]

Absolutely not.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Do what you need to do.

[Bosco]

I'm just like. At least like, in la, they give you like a ring light or something. They give you like, just like beautiful boob lighting.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. So screaming, like when you're sedated, you're like, where is the ring light, please?

[Bosco]

So I like, woke up from sedation, from surgery and, like, had the coolest anesthesiologist. She's like, yeah, just have like a glass of white wine or something tonight. You'll be great. I'm like, are you supposed to tell me that I love LA sometimes?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally. They're so used to it.

[Bosco]

We know you're going to. But just like, keep it cute.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Don't do too much. Like, check your blood pressure. What kind of sedation did you get? Do you know? I was a nurse for a long time.

[Bosco]

We went under.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

Like full, full out.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I love it.

[Bosco]

It was great.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

And your first. I was just telling you I watched your portrait of a trash truck. Yes. Yeah. No, they know I'm always pausing like this to watch my neighbors come to and fro. I'm like screaming about, do you have around here? What kind of.

[Bosco]

What like, neighbors do you have around?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Just like the. Not many, but enough that they're doing this. This is the trash man. But the garage will go in and out. My wife's in and out. They know.

[Bosco]

What kind of town are we in right now?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Silver Lake.

[Bosco]

Okay. It's cute.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, right?

[Bosco]

Really cute.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

It's close enough, like to everything. It's actually kind of walkable. Oh, my God. Hello.

[Bosco]

So much.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

We're filming.

[Bosco]

They're gonna do every house or something. That's crazy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

That's what the trash does.

[Bosco]

Like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay, but back to your portrait. They. You allowed cameras into your surgery.

[Bosco]

So we were allowed to do like waiting room in and out and stuff. But, like, the footage that they have was like their own footage. I think this. The surgeon likes to like, keep things for, like, record and for teaching.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Okay.

[Bosco]

And he loves a photo. He loves very dramatic light lit photo as well. The before and after is very.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

He's in charge of the lighting.

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. Well, everyone who's listening, if they haven't watched, you should watch. I thought it was so good and interesting and vulnerable. All the things but when you sat down in his office, he's like, I saw your Instagram. You're famous. I'm like, doctor, don't lead with that.

[Bosco]

I kind of liked it. I'm like, great, so I'm a priority then. So if you this up, everyone's gonna.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Be mad at you, right?

[Bosco]

Literally, like a little bit of weight on your scalpel while you're cutting into my forehead?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Honestly, it's like, they have to be. You know, you're on tv. It's like, don't up. Be a little more delicate.

[Bosco]

Oh, I will go on TV and I will air your out. You'll never work again. Please, I dare you to me up. It's such a metal surgery too. It's so metal. Like, for those who have seen, like, they like, cut from like here all the way up, pull that down, like, take out a piece of your skull, reshape it, put it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Wait, they took out your skull?

[Bosco]

They took out, like, my brow bone.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Bosco]

Re it and then put it back in.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Holy. Yeah, they didn't show that, obviously.

[Bosco]

No, they do show a little bit of my skull, though.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, no, they fully, like, like, peeled your skin back. I was like, this is insane. I'm sick. I kind of like that stuff.

[Bosco]

I have it on my phone and sometimes I'm like, hey, check this out.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's like a party trick. You're like, no, but do you want to see?

[Bosco]

See what my brain kind of looks like?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

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[Bosco]

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, for sure.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like, I guess I'm gonna go to bed and they're just going to rummage around in my skull.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like, just rejuice things and I hope I don't look insane when it's done.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

You don't really know how it's gonna all come together. And like, you do your research and like, you trust the person that you're going with, but like, there's still like such a bit of chance that goes with all of it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Totally. And especially like, I feel like any kind of surgery on your face, you're like, so scared.

[Bosco]

But no dressing around that. There's no, like, I'm gonna start wearing masks now. Like, I'm getting really into burkas. Like, there's like, you have full ski masks. Like full riot. Like you have to like, kind of commit. You're like, well, this is what I'm gonna look like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. No, but it's worth it. It's like it was for me.

[Bosco]

It was changed everything.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

It looks amazing. And even just like watching it back on the before and afters. He did such a natural job. You know that? Yes. It like. Do you feel like you, like, look like you?

[Bosco]

I do. I didn't want, like, I. I love when a girl goes like full witness protection with it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Where they're like, I don't look anything.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I love it all.

[Bosco]

I think it's so fun. I think it's so fun. I think it's so fabulous. I think it's so glamorous. It wasn't what I wanted for myself though.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I wanted to be like, that's great for you.

[Bosco]

Exactly. Different. Different journeys. I just wanted to like, look like one of my sisters. I wanted to like, see what I look like if I didn't go through like a testosterone based puberty.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I think he really nailed that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, did you show him, like, photos of your sisters?

[Bosco]

Yeah, I think we went through like the like family pictures. Like, yeah, this is what my sisters look like. He didn't like necessarily like, model it off of them.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

But just kind of like, like with that in mind.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

What we could look like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. How'd you do research?

[Bosco]

I talked To a few of the different girls who I've known who've gotten the surgery. And then I just kind of like poking around. Who was in my town.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Lucked out. He, like took my insurance. He's about a 10 minute drive away from my house.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Cover at home. It was the perfect storm and I found like the perfect guy for me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Wow, that's amazing. I know. Because you're in Seattle. Yeah. So you would think, I don't know, just any kind of like plastic surgery on the face, like la. There was no one to do your titties in Seattle.

[Bosco]

There was somebody, but he wasn't very good.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Bosco]

He did take my insurance, but I'm like, I don't. The vibe was wrong.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, the vibe was wrong. Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like, you titties are also kind of tricky because like, sometimes the girls get them and they look like shoulder pads. They're just like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, yeah, it's like globe tits. Like, that's definitely for somebody if you want that. Absolutely. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Bolt them on for sure. Just like orbs. I think that's beautiful. But I, I don't. When I'm not in drag, I don't really want to pull that much attention. I kind of want to like business and go about my day.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, no, I get that. Did you. So you, what will you say kind of what parts were the feminization? So you did your skull.

[Bosco]

Yeah. Lobotomy really like rounded that out. They like took out and reshaped my brow. They went in through like my lip and they like reshaped my chin.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, you have like, no scars.

[Bosco]

They like hid them all. So there's a scar in my hairline and there's scar in my mouth.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And then they like gave me. They like shaved down the brow bone a little bit while they were up there monkeying around. And then they did like some like fat transfers and. Oh, touch my nose though, which was nice.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, I know. You have a gorgeous nose. Where'd you get the fat from?

[Bosco]

They like pulled it a little bit from like my tum, like whatever they could get down there.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. How long was your recovery?

[Bosco]

I was like upright and like, doing things pretty quickly. I was like back in drag within like a month or so. Which I wouldn't recommend.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bosco]

We had to work. Work calls. But like, the swelling takes about like a year to fully situate.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, no, but then you kind of. So I want to lip lift. Yeah, Yeah, I think so. I mean, by think so. I know so.

[Bosco]

I'm going to do it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. I'm definitely going to do it.

[Bosco]

I was thinking about doing it so, too. Because there's just something so pretty about, like a. Like, I paint my own say right now I have, like. I'm cheating it quite a bit.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

To give it that little, like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I just think it's so gorgeous because.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Did he offer it and he didn't.

[Bosco]

I asked him if he was doing.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

He said yes.

[Bosco]

I'm like, all right.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. You're like, come on. Yeah. Right.

[Bosco]

A little bit.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

But you probably. I feel like lift, lip lift. Surgeons now are just like, one trick. Ponies. That's all they do.

[Bosco]

Because you had a bad one where you see, like, the.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And you're like, oh, darn it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I know. And it's like, in the middle of your face. But I did some shopping around and. True. You got a vibe with your surgeon. I went to, like. Well, I did. I was supposed to have a consult. I went to one celebrity surgeon who's like, thank God that I didn't go with him because I think he was gonna fuck me up.

[Bosco]

That's how I felt about the first boop guy that I talked to. I'm just, like, backed out, like, right at the last minute. Like, I don't think so. I don't think so. I'm getting a bad vibe. Getting a bad vibe.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. No, good for you. I'm fully ready. Like, I have an appointment and I'm fully ready to, like, step in and walk away. Yeah. Because I don't know what's gonna happen, like, last minute, you know? So I'm giving myself that grace. But I had consults with two guys, both kind of celebrity, because that's all Reddit was doing or, like, talking about. But the last one literally had frosted tips.

[Bosco]

No.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm like, bro, I gotta cancel. I can't have you working on my face.

[Bosco]

I can't do it. No. Like, I'm looking at your life choices and I'm not, like, right. Respecting them.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And, like, you're about to make a very big life choice for me, so. Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, you're out. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Are there any other red flags that you would say if you had a surgeon? What's another thing where you say, like, okay, I don't think so. Like, if he had, like, hand tattoos.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

I don't think.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. Like, you're not professional. Yes. If he has dirty fingernails.

[Bosco]

Yes. He has, like, a set of extensions on. He had gel X on.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally. Yeah.

[Bosco]

That's sexist. It could be a lady surgeon as well.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Where's the dexterity if they're like, yeah, already kind of sedated? I'm like, the surgeon that I'm going to. I don't know if she has enough, like, affect for me. I'm like, are you going to get excited or are you going to, like, tell me? No. I made sure she was like, I think it'll look pretty. But I'm like, you will tell me no, right?

[Bosco]

I love a no person. I love, like, you don't need that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

That's how, like, I feel. I have, like, that relationship with the person who, like, does, like, filler and, like, Botox for me. Yeah. I need somebody to tell me no. Otherwise you just, like, end up looking vaguely British.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

The British girls, they don't tell them no over there.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

Really don't know.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

They have a love. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Juvederm. Yes. And secret.

[Bosco]

The secret is more filler.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, it's so true. I love it. Me. I could. I also need to be told no on lip filler, too.

[Bosco]

No, I'm just like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

But it could be fun, right?

[Bosco]

It's like, fun. When you look in the mirror, you're like, that looks different.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Am I myself? Like, I don't mind being overfilled. Like, so what. What's with the duck? Like, I think it's fun. I think it's great.

[Bosco]

Right.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay, so back to, like, when did you kind of. Or where did you grow up?

[Bosco]

I grew up in Great Falls, Montana, for the most part.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay, Interesting.

[Bosco]

Montana.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yellowstone.

[Bosco]

Yeah. Yes. No, that's a pretty part of the state. I'm like the. The plains for the nuclear silos and cows and meth. I really wouldn't recommend it. It's. My parents were, like, Air Force, military.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

So we moved around a lot of the same.

[Bosco]

Oh, fab.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. I didn't know there was anywhere in Montana.

[Bosco]

I believe it's Maelstrom Malstrom Air Force Base.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah.

[Bosco]

And, yeah, we moved around until they got out when I was like, six or so, and then we moved to my mom's hometown, which is Great Falls, Montana.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Okay, Got it.

[Bosco]

Then hung out in Montana until I was like, 21 and then moved to Seattle, and I've been there for about 10 years. Years now.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's some, like. Is there a drag community in Seattle? When did you start doing drag?

[Bosco]

I started doing drag in, like, 2018. Okay. And there's a great drag community. I love the drags there.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

So Good.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Jinx Monsoon. Right?

[Bosco]

Jinx and Ben are both from there. They no longer live there, but, like, we still claim them.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

They're still ours. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Me and Irene, my close friend Jane. Don't. There is some really, really fabulous queens there. Rowan Ruthless, Callie the Stally Callie Colby. Callie the Stally Colby. We just got a new last name that we have to add into the rotation.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Is she married?

[Bosco]

No, she's Sasha's daughter now, which is way more important. Yeah. So there's a really, really fab queens there. And I, like, moved to Seattle, see if I wanted to do, like, city life and see if I want to do all that and then maybe move here or any York. Just fell in love. Started, like, backup dancing for drag queens at, like, a celebrity First Nation show.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Because you have a background in dance.

[Bosco]

Yes. And I just, like, kept on watching them, like, I think I can do this. So I stole all their tricks and, like, took off on my own, literally.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

As you should. Burlesque.

[Bosco]

It's fun. Burlesque is really, really fun. And I don't know, being sexy on stage is really, really enjoyable.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

There's, like, nothing better. I feel, like, do it, like, outside.

[Bosco]

Of, like, Dancing with the Stars. Do you like to do, like, stage performances? Do you ever do, like, stand up?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I don't. Oh, my God, no. I hate live stuff. I. I hate you for, like, my.

[Bosco]

Show, and you, like, come and host it for me or, like, you need to come out and just, like, talk for, like, 10 minutes. Everybody would eat it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm dead. I could talk maybe. I don't know. I did. I went on tour with Dancing with the Stars. Fully traumatized, I think, because I was just, like, thrown right in. And they did huge theaters, and I was, like, talking the whole time about ballroom dance, so it, like, wasn't my own thing, but I'm like, this place. This scares the out of me. Just, like, live. I love to be behind a camera. But also, dancing would be different because I was an NFL cheerleader, so, like, I could do. As long as I'm not talking, I'm like. I would dance with you on stage.

[Bosco]

What do you mean if you're not talking? Like, your entire career is talking.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I know.

[Bosco]

You're so good at it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Thank you. I know. I like to talk. I like the protection of a camera.

[Bosco]

Yeah. You like to be like, okay, I can take that out and post. Oh, we said too much there. We're like, this needs to be, like, tightened up there. I get that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Yeah. I don't want to have the pressure, like, my wife is a stand up. I'm like, I would literally die if I had the pressure of going out on stage and being funny. Because, like, and you get good and you get whatever. Used to it. But I'm like, if I got one heckle, I'd be over. I can't. Yes. I can't do it.

[Bosco]

Swinging from the chandeliers. I got up.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Do you want to do a dance number?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I do. Yeah, I do. That I would do.

[Bosco]

What song would you dance to?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I don't know. Something that I don't know. Something good. I'm like, now that Christina Aguilera, I'm thinking about her or honestly, anything that I could do, like slow and sexy, I'm not gonna like punch it.

[Bosco]

I think punching ears are like now.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

That's a game for 25 year olds, right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. I don't want to get like what Jorgeous does.

[Bosco]

Nope.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I cannot do it. No. She's so good. She's amazing. She is like a Barbie. Like, she doesn't have to bend her joints and then all of a sudden she's upside down.

[Bosco]

Twirling and their hair is flipping.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

But you tour a lot, like, with drag. Yes, I do.

[Bosco]

I'm. When it's like a TV year, we're really on the road. Like the majority of it, like, I schedule off about like five days a month to just be at home because otherwise I'm just growing.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And it's very fun. It can also be really lonely.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I like signing up for like, tours and stuff where there's a bunch of us and we have like, kind of like sleepovers.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's like camp. Are you doing it with other, like, rue girls at the moment?

[Bosco]

I'm just like doing my solo stuff where, like, I'm just doing like the club circuit. But I am going to be doing a tour with Daya in Australia and then I'm gonna go to Europe and do my own thing. And then I'm doing the Chris. There's a Christmas tour that a bunch of us are on.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Bosco]

Yeah, it's called the Christmas Queens and it'll be neato.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. I can't with like being away from home.

[Bosco]

I'm so bad about it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

It drives me crazy. I get like so sad and mopey and weird. But, like, that's how we make money.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Exactly. And it's like, yes. Once you turn on, I'm sure, like at the end of the night you're on stage getting like an applause. You're like, am I a rock star?

[Bosco]

It feels like it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

It's like, wow. Am I somebody? Am I somebody important? And the 45 people out in that audience are like, yes, you are.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Love you. How are you still with your boyfriend?

[Bosco]

I am. We're about to hit like six years in November.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Bosco]

He's just been with me through all, like, the really, really heavy and major. Your stuff and. Yeah, I love him so much. Love you, Blake.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Shout out to Blake. Big shout out.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. Big shout out to Blake. Huge thumbs up.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

We love you, Blake.

[Bosco]

We love Blake. He's a good boy. He has a horse, which is fun.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Does he?

[Bosco]

He does. He has a horse named Ted. He's very, very cute.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Bosco]

I don't ride the horse. I just pet it and feed it apples and brush his hair.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Cute. Yeah. No, I'm. So we went on a horseback ride in like, Santa Barbara. My wife randomly loves horses. I'm like, my knees twisting. Like, I can't pretend to enjoy this. My ACL is gonna pop. But I'm like, terrified. They're really big, right?

[Bosco]

They can do anything.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. And I don't want to piss them off, so I'm like, where do I pet? How do I talk to it? I made sure to be like, really reassuring.

[Bosco]

Right. It has like permanent tap shoes on. Like, I don't want to get on its bad side.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right, right. Does he like. Is he. What does he do, your boyfriend?

[Bosco]

He's in medical imaging. So completely unrelated to the horse thing. Yeah, like he's. He like injects you with dye and maps out where it is for like, oncology patients. So he has like a real job? Yes, I tap dance in bars. And he grew up just like training horses and stuff. So he's been part of his life.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh my God, I love it. And how did you guys meet?

[Bosco]

He used to come to my shows back. Back before TV stuff. You'd come to my shows? And then he like, got like a little liquor it up one night and like, asked me out to see if I wanted to go to lunch with him. I think I was in like heavy metal drag and like, covered in fake blood and like, I'm not really gonna look like this tomorrow, but is that okay? And he's like, yeah, sure. And then we just kind of hit it off.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Cuz lunch is like, brave when you're like, drunk asking someone out and you want to meet sober in broad daylight.

[Bosco]

I know. I'm just like, woof, lunch. Okay. Tell me you hate me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

That's crazy.

[Bosco]

But it worked out really nice. And the. The pandemic hit pretty shortly after we had gotten together, so we were, like, kind of forced to really get to know each other.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah. Like, how long after we, like, met.

[Bosco]

In, like August or so started dating in, like November. Things shut down. March.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. And did you move in together?

[Bosco]

Eventually. I didn't let him to begin with because I wanted, like, my own space. I wanted, like to like, kind of live by myself for a little bit and figure things out, and I wanted him to as well, but we ended up moving in together about like a year or two into the. Two years into the relationship.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good amount of time. Like, that's no lesbian, but we waited like a year, which is honestly, like, you know, pretty long on lesbian terms.

[Bosco]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

So.

[Bosco]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. And he's like so supportive of you traveling and touring. What does he think after Drag Race and like, your fame, he's.

[Bosco]

It, It's a, it's a double edged sword. Like, being away from home is hard.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Traveling as much as I do is hard, but the things that I get to do because of Drag Race and like, that particular type of fame that I get to have.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Is really, really fun and allows us to do a lot of really cool things and meet cool people.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And I think it all works out in the wash. But it does get hard sometimes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. No, totally. And living such different lives.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Is like, probably hard.

[Bosco]

He has like a full, like nine to five situation. And I will be off for like weeks at a time and then be like on the road for an entire month, working non stop. And like, when it rains, it pours. And.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I have such an irregular schedule to his incredibly set one, so it's hard to balance occasionally.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah, no, that's hard. And when I'm like, same. My wife and I, our schedules are always different. She toured, she's away, and I'm like, well, what am I supposed to do? I just played Casey Musgrave's Lonely Weekend.

[Bosco]

The whole thing, that's very him. And like, I haven't been on the flip side of it, but, like, I imagine it might be harder, like living the life that you share with somebody else without them in it, as opposed to, like, when I'm on the road, it's a new experience every day.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like, I don't have a lot of time to dwell. I don't have a lot of right time to think about and, like, be sad.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I'm constantly moving, but, like, I imagine being the one that's stays home. It feels different when you're like, oh, that's the chair they're supposed to be sitting in.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Totally. Oh, my God. That's such a sad visual. Yeah. I'm like, wait a second. That's gonna give me the next entrance to the door. Yeah. When she leaves next, I'm like, that's the side of the bed she's supposed to be in. But it is harder, I feel, like, to be the one that's, you know, that stays. But also, it's nice for you, I feel, to, like, have somebody who's just, like, has, like, a 9 to 5 who's, like, touching grass.

[Bosco]

I need somebody to, like, tether me to this place of reality.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Because my life is so stupid and surreal and, like, my problems, like, are not real people problems.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Oh, my God. Mac stopped carrying the pressed foundation that I need for, like, my highlight, and I think I might actually end it all because I don't know how to do it with another product. And my boyfriend's just like, yeah. I had to work with somebody who's dying today, so we have almost equal problems, really.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

He's like, do you know cancer?

[Bosco]

Exactly. No, he, like, keeps me humble and keeps me, like, tethered to, like. Oh, yeah. There's, like, real problems.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

There's, like, real thing, real issues. Somebody else calling. The Amy Winehouse song that you wanted to do for the show isn't necessarily, like, a super pressing issue.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, but it is.

[Bosco]

It can be.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

It's literally. It's all subjective.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. It's all within the context most of your day.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

No.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Are you guys gonna get married?

[Bosco]

I think so.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Do you want to? Yeah.

[Bosco]

I don't know. I turned 30, and that kind of, like, flipped for me because I was kind of always just like, I don't think so. And then the moment her third, I'm like, oh, no, we're doing it big, right? We're going crazy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. No, mama wants a wedding.

[Bosco]

We're getting a wedding. And I'm gonna make everybody who comes get and drag except for me. Like, we have the custom gown. We want, like, to be by the water. I want fireworks. Like, I want the full shebang. And, like, he's come around to it as well. And, like, we've been talking about it, so we'll see. I'm putting the ball in his court.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

As far as, like, I'm very traditional. Like, you need to ask me, right? You have to ask Me?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. Literally do it.

[Bosco]

Yeah, but it seems like that's where we're headed.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, Gekko. I just love being able to file a claim in under two minutes with the Geico app. Could you sign it?

[Bosco]

Sign what? The app.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, sure. Oh, it rubbed off the screen when I touched it. Could you sign it again?

[Bosco]

Anything to help, I suppose.

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[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. Wait. That's so sweet. I love being married.

[Bosco]

Yeah. I think there's so much more punch. Like, that's my wife. That's my husband. I don't say, that's my boyfriend. I feel like a chump.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. I don't want to feel stupid anymore.

[Bosco]

Dumb anymore.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like, mom, I'm gonna go hang out with my boyfriend.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally, like, I've been with my boyfriend for a decade.

[Bosco]

I know.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

When are you gonna be my husband and, like, partner?

[Bosco]

Feels like scientific.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

In a weird way.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, totally. Or spouse like, feels so.

[Bosco]

Witness protection. I don't like that either.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

Where are you hiding from?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally, like, wife sometimes is too, like, feminine for my wife. But I'm like, what do you want to be? But I don't really want to do, like, the wband, you know, cuz it feels familiar. With wb, you're not.

[Bosco]

I'm unfamiliar with West Ben. So that's woman.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Husband or wife? Husband or woman Husband.

[Bosco]

Okay.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Exactly.

[Bosco]

Hife is the counterpart then.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, but that kind of sounds like a slur.

[Bosco]

I'm like, we're in danger. Something about that strong. No, literally one syllable.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm like, so we can't. We can't do hype. We can't do husband. So I'm like, what do you want to be like, on my paperwork, on medical paperwork. Is it espoused something? You just have to be a wife.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Because there's no other partner. Right? No, literally. That sounds like, too legal. Yeah, so I know, but at least it's not like my lover.

[Bosco]

Can you put that in the paperwork?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. You're telling, like, co workers, like, okay, enough. Exactly.

[Bosco]

Like, I didn't ask.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. And like, so what? I'm allowed to have a wife, even though it's kind of, like, nice for the shock factor. It's like, you want to set the tone. You know, you're meeting me. I'm a lesbian. This is my wife.

[Bosco]

This is my wife.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

When My one time. Which, like, I'm hoping they don't listen to this, but who knows? He was walking home and he was nice, like, whatever. He was like, yeah, me and my partner live here, so I'm like, okay, must be gay. But then I saw him walking and you're straight. Like a Silver Lake couple.

[Bosco]

Like, oh, my God, who would have thought off.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, honestly.

[Bosco]

You like oatmelt too, I bet you, right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Are you dairy free? No, but being married is the best. Do you guys want kids?

[Bosco]

No.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. Me?

[Bosco]

I'm not.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I don't.

[Bosco]

I don't. I don't have, like, the, like, gene in me that makes me find, like, babies. Cute.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Same.

[Bosco]

Completely lacking it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, completely. No. I feel like I have to fake it. And I'm like, I don't. Do I have to say your baby's cute?

[Bosco]

Like, don't feel it. I feel like they can tell too.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I think they totally say it and I don't want to be so positive. Yeah, you're like, it's cute.

[Bosco]

I do like it when, like, I. I like when children, like, have, like, a personality and they know, like, right from left and they, like, in control.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Of their directions.

[Bosco]

Northwest, east and south. And, like, that's fun. I used to teach dance. So, like, I like it when they're little people that you can, like, boss around and have fun with and mess with. And, like, that's fine. I just don't want to be in charge of that all the time. And I'm so selfish and so lazy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like, to be a good parent, you can't be those things.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

So I just know I'd be a bad parent.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. No. Saying I'm like, I come from drama and trauma begets trauma. I'll dramatize it.

[Bosco]

I really think I'm like, I don't know if my bloodline needs to carry off, like, there's so much damage going on in there. And so far my siblings might have made the same choice because none of us have kids either.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Bosco]

Well, I have a half sister who has kids, but different.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

She has a counter. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like. Well, yeah, she's like the astro.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I don't know about that, but.

[Bosco]

We love you, Ashley.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

We love you. I'm kidding.

[Bosco]

Kinda.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Are you close with your siblings? Ish.

[Bosco]

They all live. I don't live in the same city as any of them. And like, we talk and we'll see, like, each other once a year. It's very casual, but we always get along. We have fun when we're together.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, totally. Do you have siblings? Yeah, I have. And yeah, I have an older sister and same. We have like, she's six years older than me and we just have very different lives. So it's like, holidays are great. Like, we're family, you know, if anything, if you need anything, let me know. I'll answer you tomorrow.

[Bosco]

Exactly. I'm just like, we might not text back immediately, but we will text back.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, exactly. Yes. Which is me and literally everyone.

[Bosco]

I have like a priority zone where I'm like. And then I do a bad thing where I'll like, I'll get back to that. And then I don't know, ever.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No days, months later. I like, the. Mark is unread. If I really want to be on my shit, I'll do Mark is unread. But if I'm feeling defiant, I'll forget forever. But I do think there should be a tear. I'm like, who needs the lesson of, like, when to email all of the time? Especially if we're talking about work things. When to DM also a lot of the time. And then when to text, when to call and when to FaceTime.

[Bosco]

I do think they're all completely different things. They have different, like, weight and punch behind them.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I don't want to talk about merchandise.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like stock and orders of things that I have to do via text.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

Although I do appreciate a text to check my email. Email. Because I'm really bad at checking my email.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally.

[Bosco]

But text would be like a little bit of businessy dms. If we're like, I'm not giving you your phone number. God. We're not trading phone numbers. Like, let's not be crazy, right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, exactly. You can like, take me or leave me. Yes.

[Bosco]

Phone call. Somebody better be hurt.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. There has to be an emergency.

[Bosco]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

For me to pick up. And I have to know that. Don't like call me and update me how your day is.

[Bosco]

No, I don't care. No, that could have been a text.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally.

[Bosco]

Where does voice note fall in all of this? Because voice notes, sometimes they make me angry.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I'm like, you could have just texted that and then I wouldn't have to sit here like a jackass and having like a fake phone call with myself in this restaurant, literally. About your opinions on things. I think, I don't think. I believe in voice notes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. No, I agree. Except when I need to send one.

[Bosco]

Except when I need to send it and then it's very important.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. There is a double standard. Yes. Sometimes they're only okay if I do it right. If it's like a 30 second voice note, maybe at the right time of day and like, you're in the car.

[Bosco]

Minutes, girl.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Four minutes.

[Bosco]

Real.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

So real.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

It's ruined relationships. I hate to say four minutes. I'm like, what do you. Time is money.

[Bosco]

No. And then I'm like looking through, like, the transcribers and I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense because, like, I'm just like, you should have just texted it then.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right, right, Exactly. Just let me read it. I want to read it. There's something about listening. I'm like, this still feels so scary because am I supposed to respond in a voice note?

[Bosco]

I feel like you're setting. You have to do the dance back then.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

If you're like texting, then that feels rude in a weird way.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

You have to, like, match their energy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Do you thumbs up messages?

[Bosco]

I do because I think it's so catty. I think it's the meanest thing you could possibly do.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

A thumbs up. Because like a. Like, that's nice. The heart.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

Okay. That's flirty, that's fun, that's casual. I feel like a thumbs up is so professional and detached and nasty. And when it's like something serious and you thumbs it up, it's the funniest thing. Think you could possibly do? No, a thumbs down. I think a thumbs down. Like a middle finger.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Do you thumbs down. Oh, my God. I gotta try. When was your last thumbs down?

[Bosco]

Oh, there's a few group chats that I'm in. There's a few group chats where I'm in, where I thumbs down mistress a lot. We chat all the time. And like, she'll get like a resounding boo or tomatoes or a thumbs down all at the time. Time.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, she needs that mistress is crazy.

[Bosco]

Incredible. She I love her. No, she's amazing.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

She's one of the girls that I'm closest with on the season. I just love Monsters.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally, there is something. She's like, she's special.

[Bosco]

She's gifted in a way that I. You can't like teach, own or acquire. Like, you just have to have whatever she has to do the things that she does.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

It's incredible.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah. Like nature versus nurture. She has to have both. Like, you knew, she grew up in a way that she was able to exercise this muscle, but it's so good. It's so entertaining. And she's fearless.

[Bosco]

She. You are never going to play a game of chicken with her and win. She will go further.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Yes, she will go further.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, she'll also hit you where it hurts. And she actually doesn't have that good of an argument sometimes. It doesn't have to be. It's like her delivery, the delivery of.

[Bosco]

It all makes it all work. And like, sometimes just like saying things like emphatically and loud works, Right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally, she's like, that's kind of like how my wife is. She'll just be like, no, you're wrong. I'm like, no, but I'm not. And that can't be your only rebuttal.

[Bosco]

But sometimes like, I'm just like, am I wrong? I'm like, almost like too empathic. Like empathetic, where I'm just like, I'll like believe somebody's argument even if I am on the other side of it. I'm like, wait, what if they're right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. I can see both sides.

[Bosco]

Terrible.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally. Cuz I hate to be wrong. I just don't want to be. It feels like so shameful and embarrassing.

[Bosco]

It's my least. It's like, I think my biggest vanity is like thinking that I'm like, smart. So when I'm wrong.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

It just ruins that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. It's a reflection on your intellectual, but it's not. Who cares?

[Bosco]

Wake that up. People are allowed to be wrong. Literally allowed to be wrong. You can still be smart. You can't be wrong too many times. Then you're kind of dumb, right?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because then you're just uninformed. But the more like, the more you put out. That's how my wife is. She is so. She does not care if she's right or wrong, but she's really smart. So it's like I always take her at her word. Most times I'm like, you were so wrong about this. Like, please, at Least try.

[Bosco]

Wrong.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Yeah. She's from, like, New York and Montreal.

[Bosco]

She sounds very East Coast.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, she is.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

So it comes at same.

[Bosco]

I love east coast people. I'm like, so dreadfully West Coast. I literally just like Northwestern. So I'm just like, chill. Everything's fine. I love how things. How much everything matters to east coast people.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, I know.

[Bosco]

Everything matters.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm like, do you enjoy life more because you care about every little thing or are you exhausted?

[Bosco]

Feel it more?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. No, I love it. But also, I'm like, do you think talking to someone on the East Coast, I'm like. Do you think I'm like, slow, dumb? Do you think I'm firing on all four?

[Bosco]

I don't think they do.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I don't think they do.

[Bosco]

I really don't. I think they're like, we're like a few time zones behind them.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Okay.

[Bosco]

For me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Same.

[Bosco]

That's okay for me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I like waking up later. Just in general.

[Bosco]

I'm not like a fast mover. I'm not a morning person.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right.

[Bosco]

I'm very motivated. But I wouldn't consider myself like, a workaholic by any means.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. That's crazy for you because you sound like a workaholic.

[Bosco]

Well, but I. I work a lot in. In spurts. But, like, when left to my own devices, like, I'll just be watching cartoons and drinking beer.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

That's what I will be doing if I have the option to love.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Do you smoke weed?

[Bosco]

I don't. I have weed face.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

Like, people love to give me weed.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

And they have to, like. You have like, weed eyes. But also they're just gorgeous. I'm like, I'm lost in them.

[Bosco]

Are you a weed?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yes, I am a major weeder. Yeah.

[Bosco]

Okay.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. I'm not around other people. It's not as social. Unless, like. Unless you are down to get the same kind of high. And like, we can. And I know you enough to where we can. I have to.

[Bosco]

Are you like a post verbal? Like, we're not talking. We're simple Levi thing.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Or like, I need to be able to speak out loud and not make any sense, you know, to babble. Yes. Yeah. And just like, let me go. So as long as I can say it out loud, you know, it's like I have to identify it. Be like, I'm so high right now and like, this is it, then I'll be fine. But I can't, like, smoke weed and go to a party. I can't, like, be on.

[Bosco]

No I can't. I'm. I'm very antisocial and weed makes me very paranoid.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

So like, I can do like a Scotia weed before bed to help me like, simmer down.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

But like, even then, sometimes it will throw me into like a little tail spin.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right, like right before bed. You're like, what's under my bed?

[Bosco]

What about that, like, thing that you said seven years ago that was taken the wrong way and you're kind of an in that moment. Let's relive that for a few hours.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

I'm. I'm just like old fashioned. Like, I like to be drunk.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Wasted.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. I'm like strike queens. Yeah. Drinking. That's kind of what works for me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, totally. Cuz you have to be on.

[Bosco]

You have to be. You're performing, you have to be social. You have to be like, kind of like lubricated to just like be ready for any sort of situation. And then also, drag hurts.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like, booze can turn off your toes a little bit if you're corsted. Can like smooth that out a little bit for you. The hairdos kind of hurt sometimes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. Literally. No. You're so tough.

[Bosco]

You sound like my boyfriend making fun of me. You're like, yeah, babe, you're so tough.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, you're actually so.

[Bosco]

You're like braver than the Marines. Like, oh, my God, I can't. Like, Jesus has nothing on you. I can't believe you suffer like this every day.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, actually, this is the military. That's what I say is being a Broncos cheerleader.

[Bosco]

I believe that. I'm sure being a Broncos cheerleader is harder than being in the military some days.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, literally, I served our country.

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

There was no, like, you could not speak. You had to understand the hierarchy. Do not speak unless spoken to. And even then shut the floor up your subordinate.

[Bosco]

I share of that to like, some of like the younger drag queens.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, let treat them like that at work.

[Bosco]

I should.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Let's see what happens.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. I'm trying to think about other questions. This is what I was about Allstars that I couldn't stop thinking about. Diabetti. Did she actually staple her ass?

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

How did she get it out?

[Bosco]

You can just pull them out.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Really?

[Bosco]

Yeah. It like stapling, like, the stuff is like an old, like, performance, like performance art trick situation. And like, it doesn't go super deep. It really doesn't. Okay, I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. But like, I know a lot of girls that do. I've seen, like, girls that, like, you can do it to their face.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Bosco]

We're like. They have, like, different price points. Like, you can staple this to me if it's a 20, and they can go here and, like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, I love that.

[Bosco]

They go really, really crazy with it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

She does it on the road all the time.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Does she?

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm afraid she's gonna get tetanus. Is she up to date on her vaccines?

[Bosco]

No, she's vaccinated. She's good.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay, good.

[Bosco]

Yeah. I'm not gonna do it. No, no. Concepts are for ugly girls.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm dead. No, you need that dia. Yes.

[Bosco]

No. She's beautiful. I love my sister.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. You guys are so cute together. Like, I love the sisterhood.

[Bosco]

She's a good gal.

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[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

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[Bosco]

And the tech to stay a step ahead.

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[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

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[Bosco]

The funny part is she's so much nicer than I am and, like, got such a rep for, like, being a bit of a. On our original season. Yeah, she's one of the nicest people I've ever met.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, she seems like she has a big heart. I didn't watch. I went back to watch your original season.

[Bosco]

You're fine. I wouldn't recommend.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I did have to watch the Lady Camden. Candman. Kandman. Boston. Yeah. Yes.

[Bosco]

Our little toss up.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Word for it. I'll take it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Did you win?

[Bosco]

Yeah, we won, like, an MTV Best Fight award.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, it was good.

[Bosco]

Yeah, it was fine.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I didn't think being rude to a British person for 45 minutes would, like, really. I don't instigate such a moment.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

It was, like, five minutes.

[Bosco]

It was so short. And we made it, like, an hour later. We were literally fine. Yeah, that's not how TV works.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

Like, okay, we got to play into it and keep it going. Gorgeous.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, absolutely. And I do think, like, everybody was like, no, I see. See Lady Camden as whatever the. This. Whatever her part was with. With the beard.

[Bosco]

Don't remember any of the names, but yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah. Because, like, you can't wear a beard.

[Bosco]

I couldn't.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

Transphobic it's been crazy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, literally. Yes.

[Bosco]

I was, like, kind of pointed. Although I did have my old chin then, so, like, maybe it would have been helpful to cover that up.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Like, actually, your new chin's gorgeous. Do you want any more surgery?

[Bosco]

I want to, like, fill out my hips a little.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Not that you have to. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, like, did Detox do something like that or those.

[Bosco]

Some of the girls have gotten pumped, which is not something that I would recommend people doing. Like silicone.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

It's very bad for you.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Can it lead to a lot of complications? Does unfortunately look really good.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

But you shouldn't do that. So I'm on the hunt for other options. Just like, I don't know. Like, yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the miracle of modern medicine is very fun. I like being able to change things that you don't like about yourself.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right. I know. Or even. Because even after seeing your boobs and like, being fed velvet Coke. Giselle bunching in the 90s like, her titties were not real.

[Bosco]

No.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Her arms are toothpicks.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. And they're bouncing triple zero. And this beautiful rack that's literally listening and jostling every time she works and, like, walks. And you're like, yeah, nice.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, like, I want that.

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I think it could give me the confidence to be like Mistress, to like, not have to worry if I'm wrong.

[Bosco]

Where's Mistress getting her confidence? Then we should give her a boob job.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, but actually that's what I was gonna say too, is watching this All Stars, it's like the glow ups. First of all, the glow ups from the normal season two All Stars is already crazy.

[Bosco]

Always fun.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

But. But ginger Minj losing 125 pounds in an hour for me, I went episode to episode. Yeah. I'm like, wait a second. When did. How did you guys film? Like, over what time?

[Bosco]

We filmed last summer, the first brackets. And then the merge was filmed in like March, April.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

In April. End of March. April. So there was like a good six, seven months long in between filming.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Is that normal?

[Bosco]

No. The first time they've ever done that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Bosco]

I think the only time I've ever heard of that happening was when there was like COVID lockdowns mid season for like uk and they came back a few months later and everybody had like, veneers and was like, filled and pumped.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Great. I, I liked it. I don't know. I, I do think it's fun when the girl. I think like, Ozempic is Like the new, like, lip filler for All Stars.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Totally.

[Bosco]

My storyline is. I'm skinny now.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Great. Good for you.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, I loved it. Yes. And mistress's talent was like. They were like. It didn't really have a story. I'm like, why do you need a story?

[Bosco]

Why do you need a narrative?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. This is amazing, Rus. Epic. Adding rude to everything and like the rusical. It's just really incredible.

[Bosco]

How long have you been watching the show?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I probably started late. Maybe like late last year. I watched the old seasons first. Like the Alaska talks. Yes.

[Bosco]

5 and 6 and All Stars 2 are my favorite.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

They're so good. Yes. Alaska is probably still one of my shirt. You remind me of her.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

She's my. She's my favorite too. She's. Yeah, she's big sis. I love her so much.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, like, it's like the dry. Like, you're in this world, but you're not, like, whatever, super perky like this. It's like, you know, you bring your own, what, like, sense to it. That's kind of not the pageantry that you would expect.

[Bosco]

Yeah. I. I've always been inspired by, like, she just tackles things within her own lane.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like, with drag, you're expected to do everything at certain times.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like, sometimes like, okay, well, so and so is doing like a dip and so and so is doing jump splits. So I should learn how to do jump splits in a dip.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

But like, you kind of have to find your own dip. You have to find your own jump split.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I love it.

[Bosco]

And she's always inspired me to do that. She's also like, I remember on All Stars too, she was getting a lot of flack for like, the. The whole sparkly blouse gate situation where she kept Roxy around because she shared the shirt.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And people really mad at her. And rather than, like, fight back, she kind of rolled with it and made fun of herself and, like, leaned into it. I'm like, that's how you handle controversy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

You can't, like, fight the tide of things. You, like, agree with it even if you don't disagree with me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No.

[Bosco]

Literally work with it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And, like, pivot from there.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. I'll always be the first to roast myself. I'm like, I said yes.

[Bosco]

In any sort of public facing situation.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. I'm in on it, bitch. You're not gonna get me.

[Bosco]

No. I'm like, no. None of you have ever said anything worse about my. About me than I've said about myself.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Bosco]

I beat you to the punch.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Every single time in the last half hour. That's what Lena Dunham says on Girls.

[Bosco]

I never watched Girls.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

You didn't.

[Bosco]

I know.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. Yeah. What's your, like, major inspos? You probably get asked this all the time. I. I saw you were raised Catholic.

[Bosco]

I was raised.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Which I think is like, I love your use of metal. I feel like that's metal and cunty.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Also traumatizing.

[Bosco]

Yeah, absolutely. I'm just like, we can't cry about it anymore, so we're gonna have to laugh about it now. I think being raised Catholic and in the church definitely comes into of things.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I was also raised with, like, my, like. She's essentially my grandma. She, like, ended up, like, dating and, like, marrying my grandpa later in life. And, like, she had a dance studio and I grew up dancing, so I was always inspired by, like, old Hollywood and old musicals. I love showgirls. I love any sort of.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Like, you were a showgirl. I feel like we could go on forever. You were a Las Vegas showgirl, right?

[Bosco]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

For how long?

[Bosco]

I was in the RuPaul Vegas show.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh.

[Bosco]

And I've done, like, a few contracts with them there where it'd be like two or three months at a time. And it's so much fun.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Wow. Do you love it?

[Bosco]

I do. I don't love living in Vegas.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Vegas is kind of like if Dave and Buster's came alive.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And like, decided it was a city. And it smells crazy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. The cigs.

[Bosco]

The cigs. Like wet cigarettes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

And just like, it's. It's. It's a rough town sometimes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I love entertainment and I love razzle dazzle. Show business.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Literally. And it's the feathers. It's. I know when you, like, closed and opened, I was like, glued. Like, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen.

[Bosco]

A lot of it. I don't have to, like, jump off of a box and do a splits. I'm like, I love it when girls do that. I love it. I'm like, I don't think that makes sense for me.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

So I'll find my own version where.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Our center of gravity is too high.

[Bosco]

Exactly.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I'm like, too tall. I don't really jump. I don't flip around. I was a dancer for a reason. Like.

[Bosco]

Absolutely. We're working with what we got. And, like.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I. I don't know about you, but, like, sometimes, like, the things that look great on short girls look crazy on tall girls.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Bosco]

Like, movement wise and stunt wise, you're like, that just looks bad. Too many limbs for that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Yeah. They're too long.

[Bosco]

They're too long. I'm gonna hit somebody.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No. Yeah. What else? I'm trying to think. Think if I had any other burning questions. I don't know. Not really.

[Bosco]

It's okay. I like your shoes a lot.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Thank you. What?

[Bosco]

Who is she? She's cute.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

My stylist got me them for a show that I. I don't know. They are. They're like a knockoff of a collab.

[Bosco]

They're gorgeous. It's like a wedge flop.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. Yeah. I didn't want to wear them, but then I saw them on somebody else and I was like, okay, fine. Yeah, they're cute, but. And I get compliments. Compliments.

[Bosco]

Do you wear heels a lot?

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, always. Do you?

[Bosco]

For work? Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Outside of work, it kind of has to be like a special occasion because I end up being like 6, 4, 6, 5.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Which is like kind of say something height. And I don't always want. I don't always want that.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. Wait, say something Height.

[Bosco]

Yeah, it's like a. Say something. Like we're saying something by being that tall.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I don't want to draw attention.

[Bosco]

Exactly.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

And your boyfriend's smaller than you or shorter? Not smaller.

[Bosco]

Smaller is crazy.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

No, we're gonna get him the, the.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Cuban heels, the three inchers.

[Bosco]

No, he's like five, ten. He's not short.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Okay. No, five, nine, five, ten. Yeah.

[Bosco]

I'm just like a lotta lady.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Like I like hover over most people at this point.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

No, totally. I mean, my wife's a short king.

[Bosco]

Love.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah. She lets me wear heels. Like she doesn't care.

[Bosco]

I love her.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes. They come with like a humbleness about them.

[Bosco]

They do an understanding of the world.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yes, yes. From down here they see more.

[Bosco]

Exactly. They see more at the bottom shelf at the grocery store.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

That's valuable to me because my head's in the clouds. I'm not focusing on what's in front of me. They have no choice but to focus on what's in front of me or they're going to run into it.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

And there's good stuff. Like when you shop, you have to remember to look at down. That's where those are, the shoes are.

[Bosco]

And then like, it's a nice partnership. Cuz I can get the stuff off the top shelf.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Right, right. You can get down low.

[Bosco]

Yeah, exactly.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Well, thank you so much. Of course. Thank you.

[Bosco]

This is fab. And thank you.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Oh my God. Of course. Where can we find you and I'll tag all your stuff.

[Bosco]

Okay, perfect. Here is Bosco under most socials. I recently got kicked off of Twitter because I was being stupid cheek.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

What'd you do?

[Bosco]

I impersonated the official, official RuPaul's Drag Race Twitter and started putting out Bonagus tweets. Like, for the first time in hashtag Drag Race herstory, we've given RuPaul a gun. And, like, I just kept on going and fucking around until eventually I got banned. So right now I think I'm only on Instagram. No. Yeah.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

You need to keep touring. This is what you do on your time off. Getting kicked off tour.

[Bosco]

I know. I was even on tour. I'm just like, let's. I was like on an airplane drinking wine. I'm like, so I think right now it's just Instagram. It's here is Bosco and then here's Bosco.com is where you can find like my schedule, merch, upcoming shows, upcoming projects, and that would probably be the best way to keep track of me, love. Yes.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Well, thank you so much. Of course.

[Bosco]

Thank you.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

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[Bosco]

Well, the Geico app is top notch.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

I know you get asked this all the time, but could you sign it?

[Bosco]

Sign what? The app.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

Yeah, sure. Oh, that means so much. Oh, it rubbed off the screen when I touched it. Could you sign it again?

[Bosco]

Anything to help, I suppose.

[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

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[Interviewer / Podcast Host]

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[Bosco]

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