Liza Treyger - Long Winded with Gabby Windey

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Podcast Summary: Long Winded with Gabby Windey – Episode Featuring Lisa Traeger

Introduction

In this episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey, hosted by Dear Media, Gabby Windey engages in a candid and humorous conversation with guest Lisa Traeger. Known for her multifaceted background as an actress, comedian, and author, Lisa brings a unique perspective to the discussion, delving deep into topics that resonate with today’s audiences, including dating, sexuality, mental health, and pop culture.

Navigating Fame and Public Perception

The conversation kicks off with Gabby addressing the common frustration of podcast guests feeling overlooked or undervalued. Lisa humorously counters, affirming the enthusiasm guests have for appearing on Gabby’s show.

Notable Quote:

Gabby Windey [00:25]: "No, some before, they were like, I've had a couple dudes on, and they're like, please don't ever have another man again."

The duo discusses the challenges of being in the public eye, especially as women navigating fame. They touch upon the pressures to maintain a certain image and the impact of social media on personal identity.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [12:38]: "Just fun."

Lifestyle and Personal Habits

A significant portion of the episode revolves around Lisa’s lifestyle choices, particularly her relationship with cannabis. Both Gabby and Lisa share their approaches to using weed, balancing relaxation with productivity.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [01:20]: "I smoke all day, every day. Like, I do. Yeah. But then I try to get serious."

They also reminisce about attending SoulCycle sessions, sharing amusing anecdotes about fitness routines and the blend of humor and intensity in group exercises.

Notable Quote:

Gabby Windey [02:29]: "Oh, sick. In Vegas. Yeah. I've never been."

Travel and Concert Experiences

The conversation shifts to travel, with Lisa detailing her extensive touring schedule across the United States and internationally. They discuss the excitement and exhaustion that come with constant travel, highlighting favorite destinations and concerts.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [04:38]: "Nuuly. You know Nuuly, we love Nuuly."

Gabby shares her enthusiasm for attending various concerts, including the nostalgic return of the Backstreet Boys, while Lisa expresses admiration for performers like T-Pain and Christina Aguilera.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [05:23]: "She is part of the...the."

Fashion and Personal Style

Fashion is another key topic, with Gabby and Lisa debating trends, body image, and personal style choices. They critique the use of pantyhose in fashion, discussing comfort versus aesthetic appeal.

Notable Quote:

Gabby Windey [10:19]: "Another thing! She just kind of does what she wants."

Lisa opens up about her observations on public figures like Taylor Swift and Sabrina Carpenter, dissecting their fashion choices and public personas.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [12:37]: "That's what I love."

Mental Health and Personal Growth

The hosts delve into mental health, emphasizing the importance of therapy and self-care. They discuss their personal struggles with anxiety, depression, and the stigma surrounding mental health issues.

Notable Quote:

Gabby Windey [33:32]: "Carol is my therapist."

They encourage listeners to seek professional help, highlighting services like Rula that make therapy more accessible.

Relationships and Personal Dynamics

A heartfelt segment explores relationships, with Gabby and Lisa sharing insights into maintaining healthy friendships and romantic partnerships. They discuss boundaries, communication, and the complexities of modern relationships.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [56:27]: "I think clear communication is the easiest way to keep everything normal."

Gabby recounts personal anecdotes about friendships and the importance of supporting each other through life’s challenges.

Pop Culture and Media Critique

The episode features lively discussions about reality TV shows like Real Housewives of Atlanta, Survivor, and Barbarian. Gabby and Lisa critique the portrayal of women in media, the authenticity of reality TV, and the impact of these shows on societal perceptions.

Notable Quote:

Lisa Traeger [46:12]: "And she's really going to teach Michelle Williams how to come."

They also touch upon conspiracy theories and the influence of major platforms like TikTok on public opinion and personal privacy.

Final Thoughts and Personal Updates

As the episode concludes, Gabby and Lisa share personal updates, including recent marriages, moving plans, and ongoing projects. They reflect on personal growth, future aspirations, and the continuous journey of self-improvement.

Notable Quote:

Gabby Windey [64:26]: "We're bursting at the scene."

Conclusion

This episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey offers an engaging and relatable conversation between Gabby and Lisa Traeger. Through humor and honesty, they navigate complex topics, providing listeners with insights into personal growth, mental health, and the intricacies of modern relationships. The dynamic exchange, punctuated with memorable quotes and candid reflections, makes this episode a compelling listen for those seeking depth and authenticity in podcast content.

Selected Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

Gabby Windey [00:25]: "No, some before, they were like, I've had a couple dudes on, and they're like, please don't ever have another man again."
Lisa Traeger [01:20]: "I smoke all day, every day. Like, I do. Yeah. But then I try to get serious."
Lisa Traeger [12:38]: "Just fun."
Gabby Windey [02:29]: "Oh, sick. In Vegas. Yeah. I've never been."
Gabby Windey [10:19]: "Another thing! She just kind of does what she wants."
Lisa Traeger [12:37]: "That's what I love."
Lisa Traeger [33:32]: "Carol is my therapist."
Lisa Traeger [56:27]: "I think clear communication is the easiest way to keep everything normal."
Gabby Windey [64:26]: "We're bursting at the scene."

This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting the key discussions and personal insights shared by Gabby Windey and Lisa Traeger.

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[00:01]
Gabby Windy
The following podcast is a Dear media production. Can I introduce you? People get so pissed because they're like, you don't introduce your. Like, your guest. But I'm like, you should know them.
[00:19]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, but people also don't want a guest. I bet they're gonna be pissed.
[00:23]
Gabby Windy
No, they'll be so excited with you.
[00:25]
Lisa Traeger
We want you.
[00:26]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No, some before, they were like, I've had a couple dudes on, and they're like, please don't ever have another man again. And they're even gay. But we love the gays here. I guess not all of them. There's one straight one, but Lisa Traeger. Wow.
[00:42]
Lisa Traeger
You did it. I've been intro. I'm so pumped. I wear a bedazzle pants.
[00:46]
Gabby Windy
I love them. And your socks. I'm not done. Comedian, actress. Really? Pothead. Sister in Christ.
[00:58]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Wait, you're not a pothead, right?
[00:59]
Gabby Windy
Yes.
[01:00]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, I have joint. I mean, I have baby joints.
[01:02]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Are you high right now?
[01:04]
Lisa Traeger
No, No. I took, like, one hit after my meeting. I had, like, a meeting, you know. Do you reward myself the after? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm like, in New York, I smoke all day, every day. Like, I do. Yeah. But then I try to get serious. So if I have, like, work.
[01:20]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[01:21]
Lisa Traeger
Or something, I want to be my full self.
[01:23]
Gabby Windy
Right. With the weed or without?
[01:26]
Lisa Traeger
Without. You know, like, I'm not my true self or I am. I've become such a stoner. But I do feel like it's. It numbs you. But I'm getting high before I go to Soul Cycle today.
[01:37]
Gabby Windy
I've never exercised high, but I do want to.
[01:39]
Lisa Traeger
I have to.
[01:41]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Because it's like you kind of disassociate.
[01:43]
Lisa Traeger
Absolutely.
[01:44]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[01:44]
Lisa Traeger
You detach. When I'm not high, I feel every single thing.
[01:48]
Gabby Windy
Right. No, it's brutal.
[01:50]
Lisa Traeger
It's so brutal. You went once. Watching Robbie SoulCycle is one of my favorite memories ever, because I think she wore, like, a cargo pant with pockets. Like, a full, like, pant.
[02:01]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And she calls and respond like that.
[02:04]
Lisa Traeger
You're supposed to, like, good job. Or, like. And I saw her just pat someone on the back.
[02:11]
Gabby Windy
She's so active. And I knew going in, I'm like, I know what type of group exerciser you are. You don't have to tell me. And she had her sunglasses on, and she's, like, hooting and hollering, cracking jokes. Were you there? Because I feel like we went a couple times when. Or I went, like, after you introduced us to Taylor's Tuesday.
[02:29]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, I heard didn't she, like, have to puke, get off the bike?
[02:33]
Gabby Windy
Yes. She was like, babe, I'm not nauseous. And I'm like, please figure it out. Like, I know you're not that nauseous. Like, it'll go. But she was stuck in the bike, clipped in, and she had no idea. I'm like, just stop. Just, like, don't draw attention. It's gonna be okay.
[02:48]
Lisa Traeger
But Diego's leaving. It's his last month.
[02:50]
Gabby Windy
Oh, really? Yeah.
[02:50]
Lisa Traeger
That's why I'm sneaking it in today.
[02:52]
Gabby Windy
I want to say mine.
[02:53]
Lisa Traeger
I don't know.
[02:54]
Gabby Windy
Do you soul cycle in New York? Yeah. To Taylor. Tuesdays or anything.
[02:59]
Lisa Traeger
It's Taylor Saturday. It's Swifty Saturday there.
[03:01]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[03:02]
Lisa Traeger
It was my main. And I'll go to a Taylor mix club, like, throughout. But they'll do fun ones. I'll go Gaga. Miley.
[03:08]
Gabby Windy
Oh, yeah.
[03:09]
Lisa Traeger
I went to a dochi. Nikki. Rihanna.
[03:12]
Gabby Windy
That okay. Yes. I'm not such a little monster. Oh, I have to be honest. Are you?
[03:18]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I've seen her live twice, and I'm gonna try to go to this year. She's in Miami on my birthday.
[03:22]
Gabby Windy
Oh, sick.
[03:23]
Lisa Traeger
Which is intimidating. Miami intimidates me.
[03:25]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[03:25]
Lisa Traeger
But I think. Do you love Miami? You love me?
[03:30]
Gabby Windy
On me, boy. Wait, why? Because there's, like, just so many people. But you're in New York. Because it's, like, hot.
[03:35]
Lisa Traeger
Like, they're just so hot. I don't know.
[03:37]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, like, hot weather and hot people. Are you going tour?
[03:40]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, I'm on the road. I'm on the road.
[03:42]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[03:43]
Lisa Traeger
This is it. I took, like, two months off last summer, and then two months off in the winter, like, which I've never, ever done. And it was so nice just being in one place for months. Like, I haven't done that in near a decade, so it was really cool. And then now I'm back, like, flying a lot on the road and traveling.
[03:59]
Gabby Windy
Do you go for, like, a weekend or a week?
[04:01]
Lisa Traeger
It depends. So, like, I was in Seattle this weekend, and now I'm in la. Then I'll go to Moon, like, Austin for four or five days. Then I'll go home for three or four, go to Providence, Rhode island, home for little bit. San Francisco, then la. Then I'll do Albuquerque, then home, and then I don't know what date. I have, like, Philly somewhere. New Orleans somewhere. Atlanta somewhere.
[04:20]
Gabby Windy
Holy Charlotte. Oh, my God.
[04:22]
Lisa Traeger
And then I'm gonna do Australia, New Zealand, and then I'm doing a mini, like, UK Euro in the fall.
[04:27]
Gabby Windy
Shut up. Yeah. Oh, my God.
[04:29]
Lisa Traeger
So I'll be out and about.
[04:30]
Gabby Windy
Are you excited?
[04:31]
Lisa Traeger
And then I think I take, like, I'll take August off and try to see the Backstreet Boys and Lady Gaga and Kelly Clarkson. Stop.
[04:39]
Gabby Windy
I love how much, like, your concert goer. Like, the Backstreet Boys is crazy.
[04:46]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I saw them a couple summers ago at the Hollywood bowl, and they blew me away. Are they still like, I was at the sixth grade? They've never stopped. That's the thing. They've consistently worked. So they are in shape, hitting every move, hitting every song, every note. And they know what we want. They played every hit. You can imagine.
[05:04]
Gabby Windy
Oh. And that's the way it should be. I don't want to listen to your new songs.
[05:09]
Lisa Traeger
But it's like, yeah, that's not.
[05:10]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, we gotta love by right here.
[05:12]
Lisa Traeger
Create a little. But they know what we want.
[05:14]
Gabby Windy
Wow.
[05:14]
Lisa Traeger
Even by the end of the show, I was like, what are they? Even I felt like they played everything. I was like, what's the encore? What's the encore? And it was larger than life. And we lost it.
[05:24]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God.
[05:25]
Lisa Traeger
This is gonna be at the Sphere.
[05:27]
Gabby Windy
Oh, sick. In Vegas. Yeah. I've never been.
[05:29]
Lisa Traeger
I have an either. Whoa. But I feel safe with the Backstreet Boys.
[05:33]
Gabby Windy
Yes, of course. Yeah.
[05:35]
Lisa Traeger
Like, yeah.
[05:36]
Gabby Windy
Who is seeing the Backstreet Boys? Is it like. Is it like, millennials?
[05:41]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, it's women my age.
[05:42]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Love it.
[05:43]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, it's. It was just like a high school reunion.
[05:47]
Gabby Windy
I would say, what other drugs do you want to do at the Sphere?
[05:51]
Lisa Traeger
I'd probably want to do a little Molly or mushrooms or both.
[05:54]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[05:55]
Lisa Traeger
But I'm scared. I'd get nauseous or uncomfortable or overwhelmed. But with the songs of my childhood, I think I'll be comforted.
[06:01]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Yeah. And you'll be so, like, just tuned in.
[06:05]
Lisa Traeger
I want to see Smiley there.
[06:07]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[06:07]
Lisa Traeger
I hope Miley does. Wow.
[06:10]
Gabby Windy
I gotta see something.
[06:11]
Lisa Traeger
You don't see anything.
[06:12]
Gabby Windy
I mean, we saw Charlie xcx. Ooh. So sick. She was licking the ground just like. It was incredible. She doesn't have really backup dancers. She like. Well, of course Auto Tune, but who gives a.
[06:27]
Lisa Traeger
She's not pretending otherwise. It's part.
[06:29]
Gabby Windy
Exactly. Yeah.
[06:30]
Lisa Traeger
Have you seen the social media of T Pain from Coachella? Yeah. He's spinning and everyone's like. And she was fairy. And it's T Pain. Like loving life.
[06:43]
Gabby Windy
No, I love T Pain.
[06:45]
Lisa Traeger
Okay. So I was playing a venue in Seattle called Here and after and upstairs is the Crocodile. So I'm doing Stand up downstairs. Guess who is performing upstairs.
[06:53]
Gabby Windy
T. Pain.
[06:54]
Lisa Traeger
Juvenile.
[06:55]
Gabby Windy
Yo. Oh, so sick.
[06:58]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. He walked by me as I was selling my merch magnets. And he looked good.
[07:03]
Gabby Windy
Stop.
[07:04]
Lisa Traeger
He looked good.
[07:05]
Gabby Windy
Could you hear the music while you're performing?
[07:07]
Lisa Traeger
It's like a. It's a good venue. They keep it soundproofed.
[07:11]
Gabby Windy
Wow.
[07:12]
Lisa Traeger
In a way, that works.
[07:13]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God. Yeah. These people are all still touring. It's like, I gotta go out of my way to find, because I do. Like, we saw Charlie xcx. We saw Waxahake. Do you know her?
[07:22]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[07:23]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. She was so good. Better live. But, like, I've never thought, like, even listening to the Britney book and, like, she was talking about her Vegas residency and stuff. I'm like, okay. I. This I would be into, but I feel like if they're washed up, it's like, whatever.
[07:37]
Lisa Traeger
I saw, like, her tour post the Vegas residency, so it's that show, but I saw it at Radio City Music Hall.
[07:45]
Gabby Windy
How was it?
[07:46]
Lisa Traeger
It was great. It was just, like, lovely to see her. And she was doing more of her electronic, like, one. And I. That's. It was nice to revisit that because I don't really listen to that that often.
[07:54]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[07:55]
Lisa Traeger
And it was great to see her, but she makes weird choices. You know, everyone's in neon and she's wearing red, and so it's like, why aren't you matching your dancers? Yeah, but she just kind of does what she wants.
[08:03]
Gabby Windy
Totally.
[08:03]
Lisa Traeger
And she fixed her ponytail a lot. Yeah.
[08:05]
Gabby Windy
But I love creative control. Yes.
[08:08]
Lisa Traeger
I was just happy to. And I think me missing her earlier tours is what makes me want to see everyone I can.
[08:15]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[08:16]
Lisa Traeger
I don't want to miss out.
[08:17]
Gabby Windy
No. I saw Sabrina Carpenter, too.
[08:20]
Lisa Traeger
And how was that?
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Gabby Windy
It was. I, like. I can't keep talking about Sabrina Carpenter, but I'm not, like, such a Stan. I understand what she's doing, but she brought Christina Aguilera out.
[08:32]
Lisa Traeger
You went that night? Yeah, I went to the Christina Aguilar Justin Timberlake tour when I was in high school.
[08:37]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God.
[08:38]
Lisa Traeger
But I was such a Backstreet Boys girl. I sat down during Justin.
[08:41]
Gabby Windy
No, of course, because Backstreet Boys came first, and Justin is nothing.
[08:45]
Lisa Traeger
Yes.
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Gabby Windy
No. He's so dead to me. His. His DUI picture is plastered all around the Hamptons.
[08:53]
Lisa Traeger
Really?
[08:53]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. They don't give a fuck about him either way.
[08:55]
Lisa Traeger
I've never been to the Hamptons. Oh, my God.
[08:57]
Gabby Windy
You got to go. Robbie and I are gonna go for, like, a month.
[09:00]
Lisa Traeger
A month?
[09:01]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, in the summer.
[09:02]
Lisa Traeger
Love it.
[09:02]
Gabby Windy
There. Yeah. We've only gone twice for, like a couple days each, but, like, the water's so warm. We went boogie boarding and fell in love.
[09:10]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, my God.
[09:11]
Gabby Windy
Yes. You gotta come visit us.
[09:12]
Lisa Traeger
I'm coming to the.
[09:14]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. You're so close. And we were like, we've had such a crazy year. Like, we can still work. She can do shows in New York. Let's just go for a month.
[09:22]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[09:22]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And we're going to go like Labor Day and the end of August, which is like, when all the parties. Like, I'm going to be a party girl this summer. I got to get my meds. Right. Speaking of, you're prepping. Yeah.
[09:34]
Lisa Traeger
Well, you know what someone said about Sabrina Carpenter that I liked and I feel this way about you where she's wearing lingerie. She is very sexy. Yeah, but it's not for the male gaze.
[09:44]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, true.
[09:45]
Lisa Traeger
And that's how I feel. Feel with you. You're dressing sexy, you're dressing fun. But it's not for the men.
[09:50]
Gabby Windy
No, not at all.
[09:51]
Lisa Traeger
Not at all.
[09:51]
Gabby Windy
No, no, no. I feel like it's in the name of fashion. Like, my tits are out because this dress was made like that. And if I wear a pasty, it looks like a bratwurst. Like a white one. It was so bad, but okay. So I think Sabrina Carpenter should take off the pantyhose.
[10:11]
Lisa Traeger
Too many pantyhose for you?
[10:13]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[10:13]
Lisa Traeger
I bet she's wearing three or four literally, right? Yeah, but so does Taylor. They all do.
[10:17]
Gabby Windy
Leave it to Taylor. We know what Taylor's doing.
[10:20]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, but I think she wants people to see her legs from far away. You don't think it's like, for shine, do?
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Gabby Windy
Yeah, but it's like they can still see her legs. Like, just put something glowy on them. There's ways around it. I just think they're too opaque. And I'm sure that is what's giving for the girls, but I think she should back off.
[10:42]
Lisa Traeger
To me. I don't like the feeling of not breathing. And so I don't get the people that are cinched like that.
[10:48]
Gabby Windy
Yes.
[10:49]
Lisa Traeger
And sometimes I wish I could cinch myself so I looked better. In certain things, I'm like, I refuse not to breathe.
[10:54]
Gabby Windy
It makes me anxious.
[10:55]
Lisa Traeger
I don't want to feel uncomfortable.
[10:58]
Gabby Windy
No, me either. Because then that's all you're thinking about. Especially with the corset. You literally don't have room for your lungs. It's like anxiety producing. Yeah. Yeah.
[11:09]
Lisa Traeger
I wonder if she'll listen and take some tights. Off.
[11:12]
Gabby Windy
I always. I have to back off because, like, some people are like kind of starting to follow me now and I assume.
[11:21]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I can't believe I'm on the spot at this pivotal moment.
[11:24]
Gabby Windy
No, please, no. I'm so glad you're here.
[11:26]
Lisa Traeger
The it girl of the Internet. Is that bad?
[11:31]
Gabby Windy
No, it's like, it's like what I want to be.
[11:34]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[11:35]
Gabby Windy
Like, I want to be of the Internet. Some people don't want to be, but like, I like the Trisha Paytas fame.
[11:40]
Lisa Traeger
But do you. But does your stuff show up in your for you pay, like, are you scrolling? And you pop up for yourself?
[11:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[11:46]
Lisa Traeger
And do you watch them all?
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Gabby Windy
No, because it's still like all Us Weekly and like gossip columns like that that just like weaponize me. And like, you guys never talk about the gay, though. Oh, they never talk about, like, whatever. If it's my podcast, they will not cut it. But if I'm on someone else's podcast, they'll be like, ex Bachelorette said Michael Buble. I her. I'm like, oh, yeah, people are mad.
[12:12]
Lisa Traeger
That you called him a thumb or whatnot. And it's just like, you get to talk about the person you dated however you want. Yeah. Literally, I'm like crying.
[12:21]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And then five seconds later, they'll take like a photo that we just posted and be like, they're legally wed, but it's like obviously a photo. Photo that's not showing my tits.
[12:32]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, No, I don't see that at all. To me, it's just people with your audio doing fun stuff.
[12:37]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. That's what I love.
[12:39]
Lisa Traeger
That's what I'm getting. Just fun.
[12:40]
Gabby Windy
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[16:41]
Lisa Traeger
The biggest star that did it?
[16:43]
Gabby Windy
Demi Lovato.
[16:44]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[16:45]
Gabby Windy
Maybe, but I know. Or Nikki Glaser did it. She was so good. Yeah.
[16:51]
Lisa Traeger
She came to a Taylor Swift soul cycle with me.
[16:53]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God. She did? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Because she's a huge swifty.
[16:56]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. And I talk about it so much that when she was in New York.
[17:00]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[17:00]
Lisa Traeger
Made it happen.
[17:02]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God. I love it.
[17:03]
Lisa Traeger
It just was. I just love being a connector and like, oh, come with me. And it felt so good. And she liked it and it was just like a blessing.
[17:09]
Gabby Windy
Oh. Oh, my God. Yeah. You brought us to Soul Cycle.
[17:13]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah. Sick.
[17:15]
Gabby Windy
No, I love it. Took a picture.
[17:19]
Lisa Traeger
It's like, you need to lay off on Sabrina Carpenter and I need to lay off on Soul Cycle. Like, I need to get a life. They'll never give me anything for free. I have to stop doing free ads for them nonstop. I'm bringing teachers gifts like I'm a freak.
[17:32]
Gabby Windy
No, I love it. You want to, like. I want to feel this passionate about something.
[17:36]
Lisa Traeger
I would have brought you guys a wedding gift, but since you're moving, I'll wait.
[17:39]
Gabby Windy
No, please.
[17:40]
Lisa Traeger
I was like, they can't have another thing if there's. If they're moving.
[17:43]
Gabby Windy
We're bursting at the scene. We have like a very high functioning air fryer that I'm waiting to break out for months. The Dreo. I've just been staring at it, but it's like, we have to wait till we move.
[17:54]
Lisa Traeger
Wow.
[17:55]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[17:55]
Lisa Traeger
And then you're gonna fry stuff.
[17:57]
Gabby Windy
I'm gonna fry up.
[17:59]
Lisa Traeger
I don't cook.
[18:00]
Gabby Windy
You don't?
[18:00]
Lisa Traeger
I don't cook.
[18:02]
Gabby Windy
Well, you travel so much.
[18:03]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, I guess.
[18:05]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[18:07]
Lisa Traeger
Some people, like, I don't know. I don't want to. It doesn't bring me joy.
[18:11]
Gabby Windy
No, you don't have to. Robbie cooks more than me. And I used to be like, the cook.
[18:15]
Lisa Traeger
And then you stopped.
[18:16]
Gabby Windy
Then I stopped. Because she makes some good shit. It's always the same, but it always hits. Food tastes better if it's cooked for you. Like if you don't have to put in the work. Yeah.
[18:26]
Lisa Traeger
What does she make?
[18:27]
Gabby Windy
She makes some poor man stew, which is ground beef and carrots, broccoli and potatoes with spices. And she makes veggie sandwiches.
[18:39]
Lisa Traeger
Are you a veg head?
[18:40]
Gabby Windy
No.
[18:41]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, okay.
[18:42]
Gabby Windy
No, but they're really good.
[18:43]
Lisa Traeger
What's in them?
[18:44]
Gabby Windy
It's covered with mayonnaise. Nice and gluten free bread and tomatoes, mushrooms and like A romaine.
[18:52]
Lisa Traeger
Okay. Yeah, the mushrooms is what I'm saying.
[18:54]
Gabby Windy
You're not into it. Oh, really?
[18:55]
Lisa Traeger
I'm not a mushroom or an olive person.
[18:58]
Gabby Windy
Oh, I love both.
[19:00]
Lisa Traeger
I want to like olives because it's sexy.
[19:02]
Gabby Windy
Yes, it is.
[19:03]
Lisa Traeger
But the mush. Yeah. Yeah.
[19:05]
Gabby Windy
They're an acquired taste.
[19:07]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[19:07]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Both of them.
[19:08]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. They're weird. Yeah, they're weird, but they. They're in a lot of veggie stuff. It sucks.
[19:15]
Gabby Windy
Are you a veggie?
[19:16]
Lisa Traeger
No.
[19:16]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[19:17]
Lisa Traeger
I have been before. I've been a vegan.
[19:20]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[19:21]
Lisa Traeger
Or like, I'll. I'll read a fact and be like, I can't eat pigs, Right? Like, they're this smart, they're this that, and I'll, like, cut it out.
[19:27]
Gabby Windy
But no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We love chicken, and they taste great. Chickens.
[19:34]
Lisa Traeger
I'm just kind. Kind of seeing where things go because eventually maybe I won't be able to eat what I want.
[19:44]
Gabby Windy
Literally, Like. Like money. It's like, you can't take it with you when you're dead. Why wouldn't I spend it all? Yeah. Yeah.
[19:51]
Lisa Traeger
Wait, do you guys go to. Have you gone to Queen street around here?
[19:54]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[19:55]
Lisa Traeger
Fan or not a fan, it's like.
[19:57]
Gabby Windy
Vibes are 10 out of 10, and it's so close, but, like, their food is just not consistent.
[20:03]
Lisa Traeger
Damn.
[20:03]
Gabby Windy
I know. Have you been?
[20:05]
Lisa Traeger
No, I moved before, like, it started popping off and I couldn't get there. Have to, like, do the reserve, you know? I know, but I love their other restaurants.
[20:12]
Gabby Windy
What's their other restaurant?
[20:13]
Lisa Traeger
Found oyster.
[20:14]
Gabby Windy
Oh, okay. So we haven't been there. They did get new management, and ever since then, it's been better, but it's like, you want it to be the best food you've had in L. A, and it's just not.
[20:24]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[20:24]
Gabby Windy
You know, for the price, but I think that's it.
[20:28]
Lisa Traeger
Is this it? Yeah.
[20:30]
Gabby Windy
But wait, you're here promoting your special?
[20:32]
Lisa Traeger
I am. Thank you. Night Owl on Netflix.
[20:35]
Gabby Windy
It's so good. I love this.
[20:37]
Lisa Traeger
Thanks. Thanks for watching it.
[20:39]
Gabby Windy
No, of course. You're hilarious.
[20:41]
Lisa Traeger
It's wild. Yeah. I want people to watch it. So I'm, like, out here being desperate.
[20:46]
Gabby Windy
No. I'm so desperate.
[20:48]
Lisa Traeger
Are you?
[20:48]
Gabby Windy
Yes.
[20:49]
Lisa Traeger
No way.
[20:50]
Gabby Windy
Yes. We're allowed to be desperate. Like, especially when it comes, like, your own work that you're proud of.
[20:55]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I just always want to be, like, cool girl, you know? Like, I don't care. Life's the journey. It's about the process. But I'm like, please watch it.
[21:03]
Gabby Windy
No, literally. We want success.
[21:05]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I want the next one. You know, like. Like, it's always, oh, my God. Does he do this for everyone, though, or what?
[21:12]
Gabby Windy
No, no, just for you.
[21:15]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah. Because you're usually alone. I like. Except I hijacked your show and.
[21:21]
Gabby Windy
No, it's great. He needs it.
[21:22]
Lisa Traeger
Listeners like it. I love that. We both got to do. Watch what happens. Live dreams.
[21:27]
Gabby Windy
Yes. So what'd you think?
[21:29]
Lisa Traeger
It was. It was a thrill. It was a thrill. It goes by so fast.
[21:33]
Gabby Windy
So fast.
[21:34]
Lisa Traeger
But it truly was everything I. I wanted it to be.
[21:38]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[21:38]
Lisa Traeger
Except for Andy at the end going, come over. Let's get high together, meet my kids. You know, like, besides that happening, everything was perfect.
[21:46]
Gabby Windy
You didn't like that?
[21:47]
Lisa Traeger
I would have loved that.
[21:49]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[21:49]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, that's what I meant. That's the only thing that could have made it better is, like, him being, like, actually, wait, should we call Sarah Jessica Parker and hang out like that one? Yeah, it's the only thing that could have, like, catapulted it.
[22:00]
Gabby Windy
No, he's great. I actually kind of, like, love the TVs right there too. Yes. Because it's a little distracting and, like, because I don't always know what's going on. But I was on with Dorit and Dylan, so I met. Who were you on with?
[22:15]
Lisa Traeger
I was with West.
[22:16]
Gabby Windy
Who's that?
[22:17]
Lisa Traeger
From Summer House?
[22:18]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Yeah. Little boy. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys fight?
[22:22]
Lisa Traeger
No. He was so kind, charming, amazing. It was really a bummer. I mean, but two things could be true. He could be, like, fun and cool, and then, like, I think played Sierra.
[22:33]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah.
[22:33]
Lisa Traeger
In a way I don't respect.
[22:34]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, exactly. Because who's gonna play Sierra? She's so hot that, like, she has her.
[22:39]
Lisa Traeger
Wait, did you guys bond?
[22:40]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, we did the show. Didn't really show it, but we did. We're both Capricorns. We're both nurses.
[22:46]
Lisa Traeger
My dad's a Capricorn, so I always get really shocked when I meet other Capricorns out.
[22:51]
Gabby Windy
It's like, are you not, like, no one?
[22:53]
Lisa Traeger
Well, no, because no one reminds me of my dad. So I'm like, what the is my dad up to in terms of Capricorn life?
[22:59]
Gabby Windy
What's he like?
[23:00]
Lisa Traeger
Just, like, I guess he's secretive, he lies, and he's like, on my own way way.
[23:11]
Gabby Windy
That's Capricorn. Oh, is it to do things your own way?
[23:14]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, yeah, no, like, we'll just do what he wants, whenever he wants, and it doesn't matter who is affected.
[23:20]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah. No, I feel like, that's it. I don't know about the line, though. What does he lie about? Like, small things, like white lies or just, like, we don't have to talk about it.
[23:29]
Lisa Traeger
Like, you'll just. Well, no. There is a famous story of my household where, because he was always so like, I'm out of here. And no one knew where he was going.
[23:38]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[23:38]
Lisa Traeger
My mom was convinced that he was cheating, and so then she put us in the car, and we went and followed him, and he just was going to work. So, like, I don't know.
[23:47]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[23:47]
Lisa Traeger
But I think he was going to TJ Maxx.
[23:50]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Same. I'm a Maxinista.
[23:53]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, we're a huge Maxinista family.
[23:55]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No, I complimented someone. She had, like, a great light blue sweater on the other day. I'm like, oh, my God, I love your sweater. And she's like, Marshalls. I'm like, yeah, yeah.
[24:05]
Lisa Traeger
No, I told my sister once. I'm like, do you think one day we'll shop at Talbots or Chico's or, like, when we're older?
[24:10]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[24:11]
Lisa Traeger
And goes, no, I'm TJ Maxx till I die. And I went, oh, yeah, you're right. We are like, my mom and sister exclusively dress TJ Maxx, Marshalls.
[24:21]
Gabby Windy
No, I love it. Yes.
[24:22]
Lisa Traeger
I do, too. I'm over digging, though. I'm not. I'm over that part of my life. I don't want vintage. I'm not digging. If I. Oh, will I fit? Will I not? I'm, like, on the Internet or nothing.
[24:32]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, no, same when you actually have to, like, put some work in it. Sometimes I enjoy it when I'm high, or sometimes I lose my interest really fast, so it's hard to tell. But the same thing with, like, thrifting. I'm like, there's some girls who are just so good at thrifting, and they can find, like, a Balenciaga bag for $40. Never.
[24:52]
Lisa Traeger
No.
[24:52]
Gabby Windy
And I wouldn't, like, go. I wouldn't know. I don't know it enough.
[24:56]
Lisa Traeger
Now I have a fake Louis Vuitton now, and it gives me the pleasure I thought a real one would give me. It really did. I couldn't believe it because I've wanted this Maricami Louis Vuitton. Vuitton since I was a child.
[25:05]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[25:06]
Lisa Traeger
And then a friend gave me the fake one, and I'm so happy wearing it.
[25:10]
Gabby Windy
Right. It, like, looks the same.
[25:12]
Lisa Traeger
It kind of does. And whoever knows that it's not, I guess, doesn't really affect me because it looks so cute.
[25:18]
Gabby Windy
And that's all that matters.
[25:20]
Lisa Traeger
Wait, are you into the new China manufacturer videos?
[25:23]
Gabby Windy
Oh, no. Should I be?
[25:25]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. So, you know, with tariffs, whatever. I'm not that, like, knowledgeable, but basically all these manufacturers are like, hey, if you want to buy directly from us, you can.
[25:37]
Gabby Windy
Isn't that, like.
[25:39]
Lisa Traeger
No, it's, like, straight from these factories. Wow. It just won't have the label. Like, it's real.
[25:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[25:47]
Lisa Traeger
They're like this. Like, we are making this Birkin. If you want it without the label, it's 1200. It's. It is what they're going to put that H on. Wow. And so they're like, we make Nike, we make this. We make all the New Balance. We make all of it.
[26:00]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[26:00]
Lisa Traeger
And they are like. Like, you could just buy directly from.
[26:03]
Gabby Windy
Us, and it's exactly the same. I mean. Yeah. As close as you can get. Are you worried that they're gonna steal your money, get your information and your cookies?
[26:13]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, we're cooked. I think they're gonna be in. I think they're gonna be in charge. Might as well get ahead now. Yeah, I think they're like. I think they're kind of like, okay. I think all the other superpowers are really excited. They're about to topple America. Right.
[26:26]
Gabby Windy
Like, we're all kind of partying on it. Yeah, exactly.
[26:29]
Lisa Traeger
They're like, okay. Because I saw an interview with some guy who prob.
[26:33]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[26:34]
Lisa Traeger
In China, and they kept asking about that. He goes, we don't care. We've been around for 5,000 years where America wasn't, so I think we'll be fine. No, they're like, we don't care. They kept being like, they could be like, but what about this and that? And he kept being like, we truly.
[26:47]
Gabby Windy
Don'T care, you know, period.
[26:51]
Lisa Traeger
Because.
[26:51]
Gabby Windy
Yes. And like, this is like. Which it is. I mean, every website, I'll go in extra and be like, do not sell my cookies. And I'll go and unplug. And so I really don't get targeted ads. Ads. Oh, it does knock on. Knock on wood. It does make a difference. But it's like I'm shopping online. We've been doing this for so long because Robbie loves a whistleblower. So there's a new whistleblower.
[27:15]
Lisa Traeger
Who is it?
[27:16]
Gabby Windy
She's like a beautiful woman who works at meta in her mid-30s.
[27:20]
Lisa Traeger
Yes. Yes.
[27:21]
Gabby Windy
The book.
[27:22]
Lisa Traeger
She wrote a book.
[27:23]
Gabby Windy
I don't know. Is she blonde?
[27:25]
Lisa Traeger
There's a woman who wrote a book and spilled all of Meta's secrets. She was, like, very high up. Yeah. The blonde woman.
[27:30]
Gabby Windy
Okay, okay, okay. I didn't know she had been. Wrote a book. She was still working. No.
[27:36]
Lisa Traeger
Oh. I thought she would have to hide because they were going to try to murder her. Right.
[27:39]
Gabby Windy
Is this. I know. I want to pull it up and see if you're thinking about the same girl.
[27:42]
Lisa Traeger
There has to be. There's one whistleblower, right.
[27:45]
Gabby Windy
Literally. And she's still on the whistle. I'm surprised she's not dead yet. But a senator pulled her in to, like, question her.
[27:52]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, my God.
[27:53]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And it's like all the same things. Like, I forget, like, China's censoring things and then, like, in. Not in the main cities, you know, so you don't get all the information. You don't. Whatever. You're not. Like, you don't get the education. So you don't know what's actually going on in the world. But then it's like Mark Zuckerberg is a meeting with them with the censoring, basically. So they can steal all our information and. Right. And get our money.
[28:20]
Lisa Traeger
I just assume they know everything and have everything about me that they could ever want.
[28:24]
Gabby Windy
Like, that's the thing. It's like, I want to be.
[28:26]
Lisa Traeger
I give my eyes away to clear. You know what I mean?
[28:28]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. I want to be scared for, like, privacy. I want to be in on it, you know?
[28:32]
Lisa Traeger
I mean, I'm accepting every cookie.
[28:34]
Gabby Windy
Should I not you? I mean, it's really easy to know. Not.
[28:38]
Lisa Traeger
They make it seem so hard. Like, there's so many steps where I'm like, just take it.
[28:42]
Gabby Windy
And you feel like you're going to be punished. I'm like, am I going to be able to find what I want? This specific shirt if I don't see my cookies? Yeah. Yeah. There's no, like, reprimanding involved. But I mean, that's it. But I know. I agree. I'm like, they already have our information. Like, when we go through TSA and stuff. Robbie skips, like, the. When they scan your face, they're checking in. She's like, no, I don't have to do that. And, like, international flight, she won't do it. And I'm. I'm with her. So I'm like, I'm with. Like, I'm not doing it. But it's like, don't they already have it?
[29:13]
Lisa Traeger
They can do whatever they want. Yeah. They have everything they need.
[29:15]
Gabby Windy
Right. I don't know. I don't know how to. I really want to care about it.
[29:20]
Lisa Traeger
I don't want to seem self centered. Like I don't think they care. But I do talk a lot and I've been pretty vocal about certain things.
[29:27]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[29:27]
Lisa Traeger
And I think everyone's an undercover for trying to get me.
[29:32]
Gabby Windy
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[33:33]
Lisa Traeger
Like, there was a guy outside the window of salsa and then he was somewhere else and I was just like, what's going on? Yeah. Like, I'm on edge.
[33:38]
Gabby Windy
You think you have a hit on your head for being, for being vocal.
[33:42]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[33:42]
Gabby Windy
To the guys who cross the street.
[33:44]
Lisa Traeger
You. But this. Yeah. I don't know. I just, like, I was. I knew they were going to say something shitty and they did, but no one actually would have cared or been involved if I just kept walking.
[33:56]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[33:57]
Lisa Traeger
Like, truly, they could have kept making out. They kept. They could have kept.
[34:00]
Gabby Windy
But you need. You need to do you. And we need to like, you know, you have to say things like that because who is. Who's gonna.
[34:08]
Lisa Traeger
And they were like so into each other.
[34:10]
Gabby Windy
Right.
[34:10]
Lisa Traeger
Leave them making out at like, this was before 10:00am I probably, like hooked up for the first time last night. I don't. You know.
[34:17]
Gabby Windy
Yes. And out in public. I love a good public makeout. I love pda.
[34:22]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, I know.
[34:24]
Gabby Windy
You're telling me people like, how's it.
[34:27]
Lisa Traeger
Like hanging out with them? I'm like, well, it's kind of like you're not there. I'm like, they really like to touch each other.
[34:33]
Gabby Windy
Yes, I know. But it's fun that you found each.
[34:36]
Lisa Traeger
Other and you both, like, are into public.
[34:40]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[34:40]
Lisa Traeger
Do you have sex in public restrooms?
[34:42]
Gabby Windy
No.
[34:43]
Lisa Traeger
Okay.
[34:43]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. I don't know how that would. I mean, I do know she could finger me.
[34:46]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[34:47]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Maybe we would try. But now it's like we're too in now. We just, like, literally like to be in bed.
[34:52]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[34:52]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Like, no, really, like. Like, I like couch sex, but it's like, we're just always in bed.
[34:57]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah. For sex. I thought you mean. I was like. It seems like you're out and about a lot.
[35:00]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, No, I don't want to do that either.
[35:03]
Lisa Traeger
You don't?
[35:04]
Gabby Windy
No.
[35:05]
Lisa Traeger
Are you living a double life? You really are not into these parties. The photos look like you're having a great time.
[35:09]
Gabby Windy
No, I tell everyone I hate it. Yes. I'm very outspoken about wanting to stay in and not like, yes, which party? Or the hacks. I'm like, when have you last seen me happy?
[35:24]
Lisa Traeger
It's. I was sad to miss this one because I was out of town. There was like, a Cosmo Valentine's Day.
[35:29]
Gabby Windy
You guys were like, yes, that was fun.
[35:32]
Lisa Traeger
It seems like you like to party.
[35:34]
Gabby Windy
That. But that's like. That was in February and I'm still recovering. Like, I was drunk. We went out till 4am Where'd you go after? I don't know. To a bar, like. Like next to it or something. It was. It was a fun crew, but I think New York. New York is more fun to go out in, like, than L. A. But back to having a hit on your head, I'm afraid I talk so much shit on the cybertruck, because what are we doing? Like, they're just taking up the road. Obviously, nobody is standing right now except Kim Kardashian, but I don't want to hit on my head.
[36:08]
Lisa Traeger
No. It's, like, crazy. And I've been, like, really into Luigi and I've been writing him and stuff.
[36:13]
Gabby Windy
Have you?
[36:14]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[36:14]
Gabby Windy
What do you say?
[36:15]
Lisa Traeger
I say a lot. I say a lot.
[36:19]
Gabby Windy
So much energy for a stoner.
[36:21]
Lisa Traeger
You know what? I. Yeah, I think I. I've been saying lately, if I wasn't so high, I would be too powerful. Yeah, it wouldn't. It would too insane.
[36:31]
Gabby Windy
I have to, like, chill out. Yeah.
[36:33]
Lisa Traeger
And I'm not on the meds. I should be on, too, which I have a Wellbutrin prescription.
[36:38]
Gabby Windy
Then does that help with the tolerance or the dependency?
[36:43]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, no, it's just in terms of, like. My friend is like, wow, we don't give you enough credit. How much you get done that you're not? Because I have, like, 150 milligram dose, and she's like, you're just raw dogging and you have that. And I go, yeah, yeah, I'm high and I'm Doing stuff.
[36:59]
Gabby Windy
Right. Sometimes it makes me more productive, though, for sure. What do you write to Luigi?
[37:04]
Lisa Traeger
We're back. I updated him on things culturally that I think he'd be interested in.
[37:09]
Gabby Windy
No, like what?
[37:10]
Lisa Traeger
Also give him support in terms of, like, you know, people are still paying attention. I tell. I let him know who in the public is still, like, talking about him, what's going on?
[37:19]
Gabby Windy
No, he needs that because it went away for a while.
[37:21]
Lisa Traeger
Now he's back and it's on purpose. And the stuff that is there. So what is it? Prejudicial. It's like kind of crazy what they're up to.
[37:29]
Gabby Windy
Prejudicial?
[37:30]
Lisa Traeger
I think that's the word. But it's. It's like the way that the. The chief of police and the mayor are speaking about this case and the Attorney General is like very into jury selection and like, presumption of innocence is kind of not happening. Like, the Attorney general's like, we need to murder this cold blooded killer. And it's like, I don't think he did it.
[37:50]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No. And Bernie Sanders literally said at Coachella, stand up to the CEOs of insurance companies. He like, hello, who did that?
[38:00]
Lisa Traeger
Who? And it might be an inside hit. Like, I don't know. There's just deep stuff. We all heard from his family, so no one. And the meeting still happened.
[38:07]
Gabby Windy
What meeting?
[38:08]
Lisa Traeger
The meeting he was on his way to still happened.
[38:11]
Gabby Windy
I don't know about this meeting.
[38:12]
Lisa Traeger
Oh. So the reason this guy was found there was he was going to this meeting.
[38:19]
Gabby Windy
But the CEO.
[38:20]
Lisa Traeger
The CEO?
[38:20]
Gabby Windy
I thought you meant Luigi was going.
[38:22]
Lisa Traeger
To a meeting also. No, but the thing that's crazy is they're also claiming, like, they're charging him with, like, stalking and, like, so much premeditation. Yeah. And they're putting dates of him coming to New York to stalk this man before the meeting was even announced. So how would he have had inside scoop on that?
[38:39]
Gabby Windy
Right. And it's not so hard to stalk somebody at their place of work. Right.
[38:44]
Lisa Traeger
At the big shareholder meeting. But the meeting happens.
[38:46]
Gabby Windy
So like their CEO, they just did not give a.
[38:48]
Lisa Traeger
And they had the meeting. And then they're charging Luigi with terrorism and it's like. Well, no one was terrorized, were they? Right.
[38:54]
Gabby Windy
They were just shot.
[38:55]
Lisa Traeger
The meeting happened. Yeah. Without him.
[38:58]
Gabby Windy
Right.
[38:58]
Lisa Traeger
No one gave a. No.
[39:00]
Gabby Windy
No outcry.
[39:02]
Lisa Traeger
No one.
[39:02]
Gabby Windy
Nothing then. So you think that. You think it was an inside job with the insurance company?
[39:07]
Lisa Traeger
No, I don't know what I think. I also think that it was someone else. But the. Yeah, like Chief of police. Not the chief of police. What the is her name?
[39:15]
Gabby Windy
The.
[39:16]
Lisa Traeger
The police commissioner. Tish. Jessica Tish. She's. She's from a billionaire family. She's. Her family's worth $10 billion.
[39:24]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[39:25]
Lisa Traeger
She should. No one rich should be involved in politics. Honestly, they don't know how we live. It makes no sense. Why would the rich be in charge of us?
[39:30]
Gabby Windy
Right, Right. Exactly.
[39:31]
Lisa Traeger
I don't know what it's like. No.
[39:33]
Gabby Windy
They live in a completely different world. We don't know. Like, that's why. It's like, you can't even judge them or understand because I feel like it gives you a different brain chemistry.
[39:42]
Lisa Traeger
Yes.
[39:43]
Gabby Windy
Like, you act and live completely different. Like, we'll never know how Taylor Swift is or thinks because she's so rich.
[39:50]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. But we can listen to her music.
[39:52]
Gabby Windy
Which I love, and we know what.
[39:54]
Lisa Traeger
She'S thinking and feeling.
[39:57]
Gabby Windy
Totally. But, daddy.
[39:59]
Lisa Traeger
But she gives away so much money. And I do like that.
[40:02]
Gabby Windy
No, same. I don't think people are, like. Because at the super bowl, she was giving out, like, hundreds to, like, crew and stuff. And people are like, do you think she's actually doing that? It's just in front of a camera. I'm like, honestly, I don't care. Also, like, I don't think it's her. She is performative, but I. Who else does that?
[40:21]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Like, everyone else would be doing that too.
[40:23]
Gabby Windy
Right? Exactly. And this is an iPhone own. So it's like, I don't know. Okay. But.
[40:29]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, so the police. A part of me also feels like all of her surveillance and, like, she failed.
[40:33]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[40:34]
Lisa Traeger
And she couldn't have that. And so I think they used, like, facial recognition that they don't want us to know that they have. And then they found someone that, like, looked like or, like, had the same stuff. I think they're following all of our cookies.
[40:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah.
[40:47]
Lisa Traeger
And so. But I think they didn't realize that he was, like, the smart and rich and sexual.
[40:54]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Right. Did you hear he was bisexual? Sexual.
[40:56]
Lisa Traeger
I did hear that. I, I, he hasn't ran back, but I, I asked if he was at Taylor Swift Night three in Miami. No. Because I heard he was there. There's, like, a photo, so I want to know. Because if he was, that means he heard Guilty as sin.
[41:11]
Gabby Windy
Okay. That specifically. Yeah.
[41:13]
Lisa Traeger
That was the secret song.
[41:15]
Gabby Windy
Oh, okay.
[41:16]
Lisa Traeger
So I'm just, like, curious.
[41:17]
Gabby Windy
Yes.
[41:18]
Lisa Traeger
If he was a part of it. But also, like, the, the writing they found, like, they're not handing over the evidence. They call, like, the cops called it a Manifesto. I don't know. I just think.
[41:26]
Gabby Windy
Right. We haven't seen the Gusto. Right?
[41:28]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. No one called it that. I just don't know. I just think things are shady and. And weird because usually America loves a sexy killer. Right.
[41:39]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[41:39]
Lisa Traeger
Where's the 2000s? Where are the date? Like, where is the constant news of it? I know a lot of more important things are going on, but it is like, such a American story to be so.
[41:51]
Gabby Windy
Right. Right. Nobody's talking about it.
[41:54]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, in a way. And how they are talking about it is like delivering ev. HBO that they haven't given to the defense yet or the attorneys.
[42:03]
Gabby Windy
You're right.
[42:04]
Lisa Traeger
He hasn't had one on one time with his client. Like, they have not been able to meet one on one.
[42:09]
Gabby Windy
That's crazy.
[42:10]
Lisa Traeger
Lawyer. Yeah.
[42:11]
Gabby Windy
Do you think it was actually him, Are you saying, or do you think, like, it's somebody else and he was in on it?
[42:16]
Lisa Traeger
I think. I don't. I don't. I think it's like, we need to put it on someone and find someone. Because I don't think that.
[42:22]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[42:22]
Lisa Traeger
The eyebrows even match. Like, the photos look different.
[42:25]
Gabby Windy
Oh.
[42:26]
Lisa Traeger
I just don't think he would have made it from the hostel to the place that they said in the time. They said, like, I'm.
[42:31]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[42:32]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[42:32]
Gabby Windy
Wow. You're down deep. No, but.
[42:35]
Lisa Traeger
But they also. The. The thing is, the prosecution is. Who has to prove that he did it. All the defense has to do is, like, poke a hole and be like, it's not beyond a reasonable doubt or whatever. That he did it.
[42:45]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[42:46]
Lisa Traeger
So. But we'll see if the juror could even be fair.
[42:50]
Gabby Windy
What's going to happen? No, there's no way. I mean, the judge has all the power. I feel like even with the jury and jury selection, like, there's just no way he's getting. Getting away with it unless, like, something crazy happens. But when is this even going?
[43:03]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, like, well, I mean, I. I know the. The next court dates. When is it? There's a lot of motion. So right now, like, the Pennsylvania. Like, the attorneys are putting their motions, trying to get things thrown out, illegal searches, and then the prosecution has to respond by a certain time. And so all of that's happening right now.
[43:20]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Wow. So they're really moving because, like, when is even the Diddy case, like the next state case.
[43:27]
Lisa Traeger
Trial? Like, the trial date is not till June 20th, 26th.
[43:30]
Gabby Windy
Oh, and is it going to be televised?
[43:32]
Lisa Traeger
No, they're not letting cameras in at all.
[43:34]
Gabby Windy
No, that's.
[43:35]
Lisa Traeger
So they're not even letting him be unshackled, which is really crazy. Like, that's another thing.
[43:40]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[43:40]
Lisa Traeger
Like, they're making him seem scarier than it is. And everyone's like, we feel the same walk.
[43:45]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. It's like, no, he's protecting us. Like, we love him.
[43:49]
Lisa Traeger
We love it.
[43:50]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[43:50]
Lisa Traeger
Like, I would trust him. I just. Everything we hear about him is.
[43:54]
Gabby Windy
Right.
[43:54]
Lisa Traeger
Really kind.
[43:55]
Gabby Windy
Exactly. Like, I actually love that he's, like, a bisexual or gay man. Like, I think that's great. Yeah.
[44:03]
Lisa Traeger
We hope and dress as well. He's fashion forward.
[44:06]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, exactly. He's like one of us.
[44:08]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I just think there's more to it. And we'll see what unfolds, but, you know, I just would. We'll see what.
[44:16]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah. We'll never know the truth, though, I don't think.
[44:20]
Lisa Traeger
But because of my constant Luigi talk, I'm scared.
[44:23]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. What else? Oh, yeah. Like, you're gonna be next.
[44:26]
Lisa Traeger
Like, every time I just see, like, someone that looks like a plainclothes officer.
[44:30]
Gabby Windy
Or I'm like, yeah, it wasn't me.
[44:33]
Lisa Traeger
Did he read my letter?
[44:34]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, no, same. Because I'm always talking shit on Elon Musk just because it's, like, funny, you know?
[44:40]
Lisa Traeger
I mean, but, you know, it bothers him.
[44:43]
Gabby Windy
Like, does he see everything?
[44:45]
Lisa Traeger
Nobody's paying attention to what you're up to.
[44:48]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Right. So that scares me. But I'm like, it's just a joke. Like, I swear. Love you, you know? I know.
[44:55]
Lisa Traeger
But he can't have it both ways.
[44:57]
Gabby Windy
And. Yeah. I mean, I mean, people say worse things on podcasts, for sure. So it's like, none of these guys.
[45:03]
Lisa Traeger
Would even be able to deal with one of the comments. Sometimes people leave.
[45:07]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. About me. Same.
[45:08]
Lisa Traeger
People are so mean to me.
[45:10]
Gabby Windy
No.
[45:11]
Lisa Traeger
People write such mean stuff. I. I think Elon Musk, if he read any. If any of the comments about me were addressed to him, he would. He would off himself.
[45:18]
Gabby Windy
No. That. Yes.
[45:20]
Lisa Traeger
He can't handle it.
[45:21]
Gabby Windy
No. And women get it the worst.
[45:23]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[45:23]
Gabby Windy
Because, like, the trolls are with women, and when they are, it's been proven. I forget how, but, my God, no. They are. Yes. It's like, all internalized misogyny, and they're the ones who are in the comments. But also, like, dudes are just so dumb, so. But it's like, the ones. It's the. Your own kind that hurts the most. If a dude is saying dumb on my page, I'm like, whatever, go yourself. But, like, if a. And, you know, if a girl comes, then I'm like, come on. But it's all them.
[45:55]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, they're, you know, they're victims of the patriarchy, too.
[45:58]
Gabby Windy
Literally.
[45:59]
Lisa Traeger
And at the end of the day, these men will never have your full back. Have you seen Barbarian? Do you watch scary movies?
[46:04]
Gabby Windy
Robbie doesn't like scary movies, but I do.
[46:06]
Lisa Traeger
You have to watch Barbarian. Really? I've never seen the woman experience portrayed in a movie so well in my life.
[46:12]
Gabby Windy
Really? Who's in it?
[46:14]
Lisa Traeger
Justin Long.
[46:16]
Gabby Windy
Oh, love.
[46:16]
Lisa Traeger
And then one of the Skarsgard. Skarsgard. The one that plays it.
[46:21]
Gabby Windy
No clue.
[46:21]
Lisa Traeger
And then, of course, I don't remember the woman's name. Who's it?
[46:24]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[46:24]
Lisa Traeger
Who's the star? The star?
[46:25]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Who's teaching us all we need to know?
[46:29]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, I forgot. Yeah, but I think. Yeah, but those are the two guys in it.
[46:34]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God. Love. Where did Justin Long go?
[46:36]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, he's dating Kate Bosworth and they're engaged.
[46:38]
Gabby Windy
Oh, I love her Blue Crush. Oh, my God, she's amazing.
[46:44]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I'm a huge Justin Long fan.
[46:46]
Gabby Windy
I saw him in Crossroads recently.
[46:48]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, not the Britney Spears movie, the vegan restaurant.
[46:51]
Gabby Windy
No, no, the Britney Spears movie. Was he in that? Is that him?
[46:57]
Lisa Traeger
I don't think so.
[46:58]
Gabby Windy
No, it's the guy from American Pie. Is that. I get them confused.
[47:04]
Lisa Traeger
Jason Biggs.
[47:05]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No, I think he could not have.
[47:07]
Lisa Traeger
Been the romantic leading Crossroads.
[47:09]
Gabby Windy
It was. It was the. Let me. Let me. He was in the beginning.
[47:13]
Lisa Traeger
Stifler.
[47:14]
Gabby Windy
No, maybe. Wait, Justin Long. He was. He had a. Yes. Crossroads. He was in Crossroads at the very beginning.
[47:22]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, my God.
[47:23]
Gabby Windy
He was like, come on, Lucy. Like, wanted to have sex so bad. Could not take a hint.
[47:28]
Lisa Traeger
Such good trivia.
[47:30]
Gabby Windy
Yes. And I think it was his breakout role. Can you imagine rolling around in bed with Britney Spears as your first role? Yes. And he was, like, so good and comfortable. It's giving Robbie and Michelle Williams and dying for sex.
[47:42]
Lisa Traeger
Was it wild to watch? Did you get horny watching that or.
[47:45]
Gabby Windy
No. I mean, always. I feel like ever since, like, we got married, I'm just always horny around her. Maybe because. I know, because I feel so safe. But also, I'm so lazy. So I'm like, we cannot do anything about it, but I know I need to get better. But she was just so good. I was, like, taken aback, but I. I couldn't watch. I was like this. A lot of the times, I'm like, babe, like, it's so. I would get jealous.
[48:10]
Lisa Traeger
You would?
[48:11]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't see her make out with another girl. There's no way.
[48:15]
Lisa Traeger
I have to watch this show. I gotta get over the sadness.
[48:18]
Gabby Windy
No way. Yeah, well, just watch your episode, okay?
[48:21]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she's like really going to teach Michelle Williams how to come.
[48:25]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Yeah. And she's just like so good in all of it. She's so herself.
[48:29]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. It's so powerful. Your first girlfriend and usually it blows up in your face, but you guys have made it work and it's really beautiful to see.
[48:37]
Gabby Windy
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[52:19]
Lisa Traeger
No. No.
[52:20]
Gabby Windy
You don't read? No. You're illiterate?
[52:24]
Lisa Traeger
I try to read. I'm always carrying books.
[52:27]
Gabby Windy
Right, Right.
[52:27]
Lisa Traeger
I'm buying books. I'm getting sent books. There's always a book from the. Like, there's a book around.
[52:32]
Gabby Windy
That's good because it's the beginning. It, like, starts by osmosis. No, it's impossible to read when you're high, too.
[52:39]
Lisa Traeger
Is that.
[52:40]
Gabby Windy
I think it's like, this is very pretentious lesbian of me. But, like, I just read my first Joan Didion.
[52:48]
Lisa Traeger
Okay.
[52:48]
Gabby Windy
And I won't shut the up about it. I keep talking about it. Now they're gonna send me something, actually. But I tried to read her.
[52:55]
Lisa Traeger
Who? Joan Didian's estate.
[52:56]
Gabby Windy
No, no, we missed that. That. I. I didn't even know about that, obviously, until I watched, like, I. Whatever. Just read her book and Googled her because she had a huge estate sale.
[53:06]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, I didn't know what you were talking about.
[53:07]
Gabby Windy
No, she's dead.
[53:08]
Lisa Traeger
I know, but who's sending you things? Okay.
[53:10]
Gabby Windy
But it's her. I think it's the publishing company.
[53:13]
Lisa Traeger
Okay, okay, okay.
[53:14]
Gabby Windy
So, like, they're sending me, like, they're republishing a bunch of her stuff, and it's gonna be like, whatever. One of the first books since, I don't know, some cool. I tried to read her when I was high, and I'm like, is it because I'm high or am I so severely dumb?
[53:30]
Lisa Traeger
No, but I think she. She's. I don't know if I could. She's. She's known as, like, a great writer, you know?
[53:36]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yes. And she's like. She goes, like, in and out. She's kind of Stream of consciousness. I know.
[53:42]
Lisa Traeger
And she's a. Like, that's why I kind of. I feel like all her quotes are so. Yeah, I definitely feel like I would get into her maybe.
[53:50]
Gabby Windy
No, total. She will tell the truth. She can. Like. Yeah.
[53:53]
Lisa Traeger
Are you a friend, Lebowitz fan?
[53:55]
Gabby Windy
Robbie is. We watch her stuff. Yes. Recently, like, obviously. Love the way she talks about revenge. She's like, revenge is so best sold, best served cold.
[54:05]
Lisa Traeger
Yes.
[54:05]
Gabby Windy
Like, I love that.
[54:06]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Revenge feels good.
[54:08]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Have you ever gotten revenge?
[54:11]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. And it was kind of in a casual way where I didn't even have to do extra. It's just like, my good time. It was going to be revenge enough.
[54:19]
Gabby Windy
Okay. What happened?
[54:20]
Lisa Traeger
I can't even get it. I'll tell you off, because I like, yeah. Someone was just talking about me in a way of like, oh, and this, this, this. And they're not going. And then I was going to do the thing that they were talking should. What? This makes no sense. It doesn't matter.
[54:35]
Gabby Windy
No, but. But like, you in your special, you kind of said, like, are you, like, do you, like, fight with your friends and then get over it and come back together?
[54:43]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[54:44]
Gabby Windy
Do you?
[54:45]
Lisa Traeger
I talked about that.
[54:47]
Gabby Windy
It's kind. Well, damn, that's what I gathered. You're like, I'm not afraid. And I'm like, okay, because that's why I love Real Housewives of New York so much. And like, Atlanta is kind of giving it to where you're not afraid to, like, fight with your friends and then come back together. But, like, did you. Where did you grow up other than the Ukraine?
[55:05]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I didn't even grow up there. I grew up in Chicago a little bit. And then the Chicago suburbs, Skokie is where I mostly did my time.
[55:11]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Okay.
[55:12]
Lisa Traeger
That makes Very quintessential suburban, but close enough to the city and just, like, I would say, culturally diverse.
[55:20]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, Yeah.
[55:21]
Lisa Traeger
A lot of different types of people. And I liked that totally.
[55:25]
Gabby Windy
That's like what LA is lacking. It's like, not a city. But I feel like. Like, I grew up kind of so conservative where you don't say your feelings. So it's like, I feel like you have to keep everything in. But, like, I, like, sometimes I do want to fight.
[55:40]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I struggle, even though I'm communicative. And I do comedy and, like, there's stuff that I. You know, I'll flick off people that are trying to. Whatever. No, but the closer someone is to me, I think I up tons of relationships in my life by not saying what I meant. Then having resentment, then exploding in ways that were irrelevant, irreversible.
[55:59]
Gabby Windy
Oh, no. Or.
[56:00]
Lisa Traeger
Or, like, in my. In my home, it was like, I wonder who it is.
[56:10]
Gabby Windy
Okay. But we were saying no.
[56:12]
Lisa Traeger
I think clear communication is the easiest way to keep everything normal, solve probably 100 of everyone's problems. But I struggle with it if someone's close to me or how people react or how am I going to say this? And when I have to have an honest conversation with someone, I usually practice prep for days.
[56:28]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[56:28]
Lisa Traeger
No, I write stuff out. I make. I make pinpoints. Like, yeah, I'll watch videos, like, therapy. Like, I'll figure it out, because I am scared.
[56:37]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. But I think that's also, like. No, it's the same. It's like, I'm so afraid because you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and you don't want to be friends anymore. Like, you don't want them to, you know, not want to be your friend. One time, I took my. One of my good, good friends to get lip filler for the first time because my other good friend was just learning how to be an injector. And she was like, we'll do it for. And then I got there, and they were like, no, your lips are. Are already big, but let's do hers. And they put, like, a full syringe of Juvederm. And I remember being so scared because I'm like, she's not going to want to be my friend anymore.
[57:12]
Lisa Traeger
Do they up her lips?
[57:13]
Gabby Windy
No, they look great. She's been addicted ever since.
[57:15]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, okay.
[57:15]
Gabby Windy
But, like, the first time and right after. But that's like. It's like. I remember the feeling of being like, oh, my God, maybe she won't want to be my friend, but if it's like, something real, it's, like, 10 times worse. Worse. Like, yeah.
[57:28]
Lisa Traeger
Or. Yeah. I used to just, like, end friendships, but then I've also been in conversations where it had to end. But at least I got everything out.
[57:37]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. What's. What's your sign?
[57:39]
Lisa Traeger
I'm a Virgo.
[57:41]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[57:42]
Lisa Traeger
How do you feel?
[57:43]
Gabby Windy
I feel like that tracks. That's like an earth sign. And, like, say. Well, I. This is something I want to work on, too. I have an avoidant attachment. I'll cut people off. Yeah. Yeah.
[57:54]
Lisa Traeger
But there's people that I was close with that I'm not anymore, and I truly don't miss them at all or think about them, and I'm glad not to have them in my life, like, so thrilled.
[58:01]
Gabby Windy
No, like, that's a boundary.
[58:02]
Lisa Traeger
My mom will ask me about someone, I'll be like, truly haven't thought about them in years.
[58:06]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Like, what are you thinking about them for?
[58:08]
Lisa Traeger
Happy they're out.
[58:09]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Yeah.
[58:10]
Lisa Traeger
And then. But my one best friend and I, we didn't speak for three years, and then we became friends again.
[58:15]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[58:16]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[58:16]
Gabby Windy
That's nice.
[58:17]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[58:18]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah.
[58:18]
Lisa Traeger
We were ending. I mean, we should have just. I just couldn't get over it. And then I did.
[58:22]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[58:23]
Lisa Traeger
No, and now we've been friends for over a decade after that.
[58:27]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. It's like, it can happen. Housewives have taught me so much. Like, the. Bethany Carroll is so sad to me. But I also. I understand. I feel like they're just not that compatible.
[58:39]
Lisa Traeger
No, But Bethany is also. She was vile to Carol.
[58:43]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[58:44]
Lisa Traeger
It's like, oh, you don't work. It's like, yeah, her husband died tragically, and then her best friend and cousin, like, what?
[58:50]
Gabby Windy
Right?
[58:50]
Lisa Traeger
Like, she would just talk to her in ways of like, well, you have nothing. And it's like the love of her life died.
[58:56]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah.
[58:57]
Lisa Traeger
And she did that to Tinsley, too. She goes, she can have that art piece because at least the I have a child. And like, yeah, she kind of really hit these women pretty low.
[59:07]
Gabby Windy
Totally. Yeah. Like, where it hurts. And just like, not everybody is, like, so business minded or wants to over excel and succeed. Like, leave Carol alone. Like, I'm. I feel like I'm such a Carol.
[59:19]
Lisa Traeger
Like, yeah, people don't get it.
[59:21]
Gabby Windy
No, people don't.
[59:22]
Lisa Traeger
Because people don't get, well, you can make more money. You could be even more, but you could do that. And it's like, I actually value my time and my life.
[59:29]
Gabby Windy
And, like, how much money do you need? Like, I don't need all of that. You know, I feel like I can live comfortably and that's fine.
[59:36]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[59:37]
Gabby Windy
I don't want to be in the place where it's like, oh, my God, I want more and more and more.
[59:40]
Lisa Traeger
Someone was like, are you bringing people on the road to tape your clips so you could post clips? I go, no.
[59:45]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[59:45]
Lisa Traeger
Whoever gives me a free clip is what I'm using. I will never carry a tripod in my life.
[59:51]
Gabby Windy
No.
[59:52]
Lisa Traeger
In my life. I will never bring a tripod to a show. I don't care. No, I won't do it. My videos will never be higher quality. I do not care.
[60:00]
Gabby Windy
No, same.
[60:01]
Lisa Traeger
And I'm happy for the success that others have gotten from high quality videos. That will not be me.
[60:06]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No. And that's okay. We all have different trajectories. Yeah. And it's like that.
[60:11]
Lisa Traeger
I don't want to be Kevin Hart. I don't need to wake up at 3:30.
[60:13]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[60:14]
Lisa Traeger
And like do push ups and have eight jobs in a meeting and tape. Like I don't want to do that.
[60:19]
Gabby Windy
No, I feel you. Yeah.
[60:21]
Lisa Traeger
I would like to have millions of dollars but if I have to work that hard, I don't wanna.
[60:25]
Gabby Windy
That's how I'm like my business model and all my meetings, I'm like, this sounds like a lot of work and no pay. But mine is the opposite. I'd like a lot of little work.
[60:36]
Lisa Traeger
But you're, you're figuring, oh, I did blue nails for you. I love it. I saw they're playing. Do you feel like that was like wild.
[60:45]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[60:45]
Lisa Traeger
Are you shocked at what takes off or not? Or do you know what people are going to really love?
[60:50]
Gabby Windy
No. The blue nails. At first I thought everyone was making fun of me because I, I have gotten emails that are like, thank you so much for the representation. My daughter has insert disability as well. And I'm like, oh my. People are like making fun of the way like I, I am, you know, and I just, that one especially. I just got my lip filler dissolved. Like the magazine Allure was like, can we use the Already after they had used this clip for the cast of Minecraft. So Jennifer Coolidge is seeing me for the first time in this clip and they're supposed to respond to me in real time and they have no idea like what to do with me. Jennifer Coolidge is like, oh yeah, she's spunky. And then I turned to the side and it's, it's like the Kris Jenner lip. It's out to here. I mean I'm literally gonna kill myself. Like this is Allure magazine. This is my breakout. Like this is insane. But yeah, no, it's like it was crazy, but I feel like people didn't even like know that was me. Kinda really like they did. Yeah. They just thought I was like the nail girl for a while. Which I'll take.
[61:57]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Wait, I'm gonna ask more questions.
[62:00]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[62:00]
Lisa Traeger
Mary Kay.
[62:01]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[62:02]
Lisa Traeger
The Bachelor.
[62:03]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah.
[62:04]
Lisa Traeger
Dancing with the Stars.
[62:05]
Gabby Windy
Okay, traders, this is good. Kill the Bachelor. Mary Traitors. Dancing with the Stars. It is very sexual.
[62:14]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[62:14]
Gabby Windy
Not, not for me, but for others.
[62:17]
Lisa Traeger
And you're not bi, right? Like you would never be attracted, you think, to a man again.
[62:21]
Gabby Windy
I mean like physically. But the more I learn about them and the more I live as a woman, I don't think I could ever see him in, like, a sexual way. Are you?
[62:30]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Yeah, I'm split.
[62:32]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, I'm split.
[62:33]
Lisa Traeger
50. 50.
[62:34]
Gabby Windy
Are you dating?
[62:35]
Lisa Traeger
No. It's like a flaw in my life. I really want to meet someone, but I refuse to do anything positive to make that happen.
[62:42]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[62:43]
Lisa Traeger
So. But it's. It's always a goal.
[62:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, totally.
[62:48]
Lisa Traeger
It's always a goal to fall in love.
[62:49]
Gabby Windy
No. Yes. Yes. Yes. And it's like, people are like, you can't. Like, it's gonna happen. When you're least looking for it. It's like, no, but I'm always looking.
[62:56]
Lisa Traeger
No, but I'm also.
[62:57]
Gabby Windy
No.
[62:57]
Lisa Traeger
Because I've never looked. It's never happened either.
[63:01]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Like, it's not proven either way.
[63:04]
Lisa Traeger
No, but you. Both. You and Robbie are very flirty and out and about.
[63:07]
Gabby Windy
Chatty kinda. Are you?
[63:11]
Lisa Traeger
No. If I have a cry shut down, I can't be myself. I don't know what to do. I all turn red. Like, I really fumble.
[63:18]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[63:18]
Lisa Traeger
In a. In a terrible way.
[63:20]
Gabby Windy
No, same. Yes.
[63:23]
Lisa Traeger
Where it's like, when a woman likes you, and it's like, that's how I. Like, I. I would never. But I also would love to be desired by someone that goes out of their way, but that doesn't really happen for me. And so, like, that's kind of the dream. I would like to be pursued in a real way.
[63:38]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It. Like, it's got to be with a woman.
[63:43]
Lisa Traeger
I know.
[63:44]
Gabby Windy
You know?
[63:44]
Lisa Traeger
I do.
[63:45]
Gabby Windy
I feel.
[63:46]
Lisa Traeger
I know.
[63:47]
Gabby Windy
But it's gonna. It's like. Yeah. Whenever it'll happen.
[63:51]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Or not. Like, I've resigned to that, too. Yeah. Like, I don't know what. What I'm gonna do. Just try to survive.
[63:59]
Gabby Windy
No. Yeah. Actually, I mean, same. And it. Robbie is such a light in my life. And thank God, because I need it, you know? Yeah.
[64:06]
Lisa Traeger
You guys are really, like, beautiful together.
[64:09]
Gabby Windy
Thank you.
[64:10]
Lisa Traeger
Good energy.
[64:11]
Gabby Windy
Thank you.
[64:12]
Lisa Traeger
Wait. I. I can't believe I met Val.
[64:14]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God. Yes.
[64:15]
Lisa Traeger
When he was at the Cellar hanging out, and the manager, Val, came up and she goes, do you like Dancing with the Stars?
[64:21]
Gabby Windy
I go, yes.
[64:21]
Lisa Traeger
So does my mom. She goes, val is here. I go, oh, my God. So we ran to Val.
[64:26]
Gabby Windy
When Robbie sends a picture, I'm always staring at. When you sent a picture to Robbie and I saw you, but I'm like, there's no way I'm going to know that man. Who is it? And Robbie was staring, and then she showed it to me. I was like, oh, my God. Wait, did you tell him that you knew me?
[64:43]
Lisa Traeger
Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[64:44]
Gabby Windy
Cuz we were partners.
[64:45]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[64:45]
Gabby Windy
Did you watch Season Good?
[64:46]
Lisa Traeger
You got like second place.
[64:47]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah.
[64:48]
Lisa Traeger
My mom is the more hardcore.
[64:51]
Gabby Windy
Watch. It's for the moms. The dudes are hot and sexy.
[64:54]
Lisa Traeger
Cuz I did a little joke. I go, oh, do you get recognized all the time? And he goes around found nursing homes. So he was funny. No.
[65:01]
Gabby Windy
That's good because he's trying to get into stand up comedy. Right. Have you. Did you see him?
[65:05]
Lisa Traeger
No. And he was being normal. He like, he's doing open mics. Like he's not trying to jump the lot. He's not trying to like use his fa. Like he's just doing it.
[65:15]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[65:15]
Lisa Traeger
Which is rare.
[65:16]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[65:16]
Lisa Traeger
No one wants to do it.
[65:17]
Gabby Windy
No, that's great for him.
[65:19]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[65:19]
Gabby Windy
So you think Vinnie junk? Because do you know anything about Vid and Eno?
[65:24]
Lisa Traeger
I do, but I know something disgusting thing about him because I listen to this pornhub podcast. It's not a pornhub, it's a porn podcast. Ryan Pownell.
[65:31]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[65:32]
Lisa Traeger
They called Pillow Talk. And so there's lots of like, you know, like porn stars. And a lot of them do like sex work.
[65:39]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah.
[65:39]
Lisa Traeger
And one of them said.
[65:40]
Gabby Windy
And this is all in the podcast. This is just what they talk about.
[65:44]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[65:44]
Gabby Windy
Okay, I gotta listen.
[65:45]
Lisa Traeger
So she showed up to his house and he showed her a porn of a woman in a dog cage puking and then eating the puke.
[65:52]
Gabby Windy
Oh my God.
[65:53]
Lisa Traeger
And then he led her to a room that just had a dog. Dog cage in it. And then she left.
[65:57]
Gabby Windy
She didn't get in the cage naturally. Thank God. I think I've heard this story before.
[66:02]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I repeat a few stories over and over, but that I think about a lot. That's what I think about when I think about Vinnie now.
[66:07]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Because it's like, it's like alleged. And I'm like, would he actually. Wait, so he made her puke?
[66:13]
Lisa Traeger
Well, he wanted to, but she didn't. I think he wants women to puke and then eat the puke.
[66:17]
Gabby Windy
That's like why. I mean, I get it. I don't want to kink shame, but kinda. How does that turn you on? Right?
[66:24]
Lisa Traeger
Humiliation to degrade and humiliate someone.
[66:29]
Gabby Windy
Oh, okay, okay, okay. No, I'm learning.
[66:32]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I like to get a little.
[66:34]
Gabby Windy
Do you?
[66:35]
Lisa Traeger
Humiliated.
[66:35]
Gabby Windy
Do you? The only. The first. Like my first exposure to this is Robbie's episode with Dying for Sex.
[66:41]
Lisa Traeger
I. I've read all about the show. I can't Wait. I'm, like, scared to watch it.
[66:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, my friend watched it in full, and she said she sent me a picture of herself crying. Yeah. I was like, does she die?
[66:52]
Lisa Traeger
It's like a true story, right?
[66:54]
Gabby Windy
Yes, but, no, it's terrible. But he had, like. He wants to be told this guy had a huge dick, and he wants to be told he has a tiny dick.
[67:05]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah.
[67:06]
Gabby Windy
So that kind of, like, makes sense, but, like, eating your own. But how do you like to be humiliated?
[67:11]
Lisa Traeger
Just. I don't know. I don't want to talk about it. So vulnerable. No, it is so vulnerable.
[67:18]
Gabby Windy
I know. I want to, like, kind of. I feel like I've always been of vanilla sex. Like, really, it's just so easy.
[67:25]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah.
[67:25]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Because, like, all you have to do is roll over. So Robbie and I, like. I don't know if we're. We're exploring, but it's definitely, like, the most involved sex I've ever had. We like dirty talk.
[67:35]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[67:35]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. But.
[67:36]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I feel like when you guys first started dating.
[67:38]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[67:39]
Lisa Traeger
She was excited.
[67:40]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[67:41]
Lisa Traeger
It felt like you were gonna be a freak.
[67:45]
Gabby Windy
We were, like, doing it a lot because. What else?
[67:48]
Lisa Traeger
I can't believe. Is this the first episode post a official wedding?
[67:51]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Wow.
[67:52]
Lisa Traeger
I can't believe it.
[67:53]
Gabby Windy
I know. I know.
[67:55]
Lisa Traeger
You were topless.
[67:57]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[67:57]
Lisa Traeger
What? Tell us about that. Did City hall kind of get Prud, or was everyone down with the nips?
[68:05]
Gabby Windy
You know, they were just really respectful, like, going through security with, like, older guys. They were like, for sure, whatever, cracking jokes. But I walked in, like, covering them. It's like, obviously, you know what I'm hiding. And then I was so scared to get married with the justice of the peace. But she was an old lady. Never even looked. She just looked us square in the face. She was amazing.
[68:27]
Lisa Traeger
Wow.
[68:28]
Gabby Windy
I know.
[68:28]
Lisa Traeger
Was it romantic?
[68:30]
Gabby Windy
It was. It was romantic and it was fun. Like, we were like, should we invite anyone? And it's like, no, we didn't invite people in the first place. Let's just do it. It was an hour. I mean, it was even to the point where I'm like, should we have a photographer? But the pictures were so sick. But it's like, that's. I didn't want anything extra. Like, no big photo shoot. It was just literally us going. But I know. I love the dress. I didn't even think I loved it.
[68:56]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, but where'd you get it?
[68:57]
Gabby Windy
Fancy club?
[68:58]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I don't know. I don't know why I'm asking if I would even know, it's like.
[69:01]
Gabby Windy
It's a sick brand.
[69:03]
Lisa Traeger
It sure is.
[69:04]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Right. I know.
[69:05]
Lisa Traeger
You're gonna be one of the sexiest brides of 2025.
[69:09]
Gabby Windy
I hope.
[69:09]
Lisa Traeger
Mark my words.
[69:10]
Gabby Windy
I hope that's a thing.
[69:11]
Lisa Traeger
That's gonna be a list at the end of the year, and you are gonna be in it.
[69:14]
Gabby Windy
Okay. I mean, I hope this is manifesting. Yes. I'd like to be, like to be in some. Something sheer. Yeah, obviously. Obviously. Obviously. I know a good drama when I see one. I have. I have incredible taste in the reality TV genre of sorts. And no, I might not be picky, but who can be? Who can be? Fine, that's between you. This is between you and the tv, not between me. And with that being said, I have something. I have something exciting to tell you. The cult favorite pretzel Pretzel crust pizza has returned to the Little Caesars menu. Yes. And you might be wondering what. What in the world does that have to do with reality tv? Well, if you would just shut up and listen. To celebrate, Little Caesars created a new bingeable reality show. Pretzel Crust Island. Yes, you heard me. And it puts Pretzel crust superfans head to head for the greatest prize in reality television. A single pretzel crust pizza. Yes. Yes. It's insane. A million dollars. Who needs it? No, all you need is a single pretzel crust pizza. A single pretzel crust pizza. And people do. And this might sound deranged to you, and that's because it is. And that's what makes the best tv. What are we going to fight over a man for when we can fight over a pretzel crack crust pizza? And there is a pretzel crust pizzas cult like following. Everyone's always talking about it online. I saw the Reddit thread. I see the Twitter threads. And they'll do the nastiest, most disgusting things for just a slice. Don't act like you're better than that. Don't act like you're better than that. I've seen. I've seen all the tabs open on your computer. I know what you're up to. But Pretzel Crust island is inspired by the demands of real Little Caesars Pretzel Crust pizza fans who claim they would do the craziest things for just one zar. They'll file bankruptcy. Okay, Mom. They'll fight their own family and they'll even skydive as a pretzel. I can't even skydive just as myself, let alone dressed As a pretzel for a pretzel crust pizza. So pretzel Crest island has. Has these people put their money where their mouth is and prove what they would actually do for a pretzel crust. Okay, now I'm interested. Pretzel Crest island is stuffed with everything you love about reality tv. Love, loss, backstabs and betrayal. Twists and turns and endless drama to munch on. Honestly, it sounds a lot like traders and you get to vote on the winner in the finale. I love a vote based TV show. There's just. There's something that really goes to your head if you know you're getting a lot of votes and there's something that really makes you feel terrible if you don't. So. So why don't you and I binge the show on Little Caesar's YouTube page starting April 22nd? I mean, I mean, it is nuts. Honestly, I've done more for less. More for less than this pizza with a soft pretzel crust and a cheddar cheese sauce based. I mean, like, honestly, honestly, it's making me hungry. Honestly, it's making my stomach talk. Honestly, honestly, I can't wait till April. April 22.
[73:10]
Lisa Traeger
No, you take it to the next level. I love an ice skating sheer. Like, I like that.
[73:16]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[73:16]
Lisa Traeger
I really do.
[73:17]
Gabby Windy
What do you mean?
[73:18]
Lisa Traeger
Like, I like to look like an ice skater.
[73:20]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[73:21]
Lisa Traeger
Like, I have this pink see through shirt with rhinestones all over it and.
[73:25]
Gabby Windy
With a thumb hole. Oh, love.
[73:27]
Lisa Traeger
And so I feel like I'm on the ice.
[73:29]
Gabby Windy
Yes. And that's the kind of wind, cold wind into your hair. Yes.
[73:34]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Just like, I love it. It's like trashy and beautiful to me.
[73:38]
Gabby Windy
The same. Like. Yes. I always want to toe the line of trash. I want to tramp stamp so bad.
[73:43]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Like, even when I was young, I wanted this Christina Aguilar. Like, I wanted white hair with black underneath. Like I always.
[73:49]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God. Yeah. I've been reading the Britney Spears memoir, which, like, I've never. I mean, I. That is terrible. Did you listen to it or read it?
[73:56]
Lisa Traeger
No, but I've been a fan for a long time, so, like, I love her. I'm just. I'm not really a reader.
[74:01]
Gabby Windy
No, No. I mean, Michelle Williams like, narrates it. Yes.
[74:06]
Lisa Traeger
Is she a good friend now? Is Michelle Williams hanging out?
[74:10]
Gabby Windy
No, she's like, very professional. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like it. But anyways, I went down a Christina Aguilera rabbit hole.
[74:18]
Lisa Traeger
Sorry. There's a cat.
[74:19]
Gabby Windy
She's hiding.
[74:22]
Lisa Traeger
But I like that they're here.
[74:23]
Gabby Windy
I know. Okay. But you. You're from the Ukraine.
[74:27]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[74:28]
Gabby Windy
That's. I had no idea. Like, we were watching your special, and even before you got to the immigrant parent of it all, I was like, where is Lisa from?
[74:35]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[74:36]
Gabby Windy
It was, like, literally the uk.
[74:38]
Lisa Traeger
I know, but it was Soviet Union. We speak Russian. So complicated.
[74:42]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. How. Like, when did you move? How old are you?
[74:44]
Lisa Traeger
Three.
[74:45]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[74:46]
Lisa Traeger
Young little girl.
[74:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[74:47]
Lisa Traeger
But I recently. I'm so proud of myself because I spoke in fluent Russian and explained to my parents the intricacies of Survivor.
[74:54]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[74:54]
Lisa Traeger
And I went, oh, I'm fudgeing fluid.
[74:56]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Literally.
[74:57]
Lisa Traeger
That's hard.
[74:58]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[74:58]
Lisa Traeger
All the psychological warfare. And I did it.
[75:01]
Gabby Windy
Totally. It's so manipulative. I've never watched. I don't now. I used to be like, oh, I'd never do reality TV again, but I had so much fun on Traders. So I'm like, I want to go on Deal or no Deal Island. Okay.
[75:14]
Lisa Traeger
I think I just. I want to do every game show. I want to be a judge on, like, Top Chef.
[75:18]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Yeah, that's like.
[75:19]
Lisa Traeger
That's my. And Drag Race. I want to be a judge on stuff.
[75:22]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah. No, same. And judge people on things that I have no idea about. What did you think of. Wait, are you. Do you still watch Survivor?
[75:30]
Lisa Traeger
I do. I'm always, like, two, three seasons behind, and then I finish. Then I do it.
[75:34]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[75:34]
Lisa Traeger
And every time I start a season, I go, I hate these people. I hate this. I don't want to watch it. And then I watch it all in a day or two. But it's like a pattern, and I resist it. For some reason, I resist the new seasons, and I'm like, I don't want to. And then I'll love it always. It'll be there for me in the moment. I need it.
[75:49]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, exactly. You have to save them, and you don't even know you're saving them. It's like taking a recommendation. Like, I don't want to do it until it's my idea.
[75:56]
Lisa Traeger
Yes.
[75:56]
Gabby Windy
And it's like, why didn't I start earlier? But I did. After you said you were watching Real Housewives of Atlanta.
[76:01]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[76:02]
Gabby Windy
Binged this season.
[76:04]
Lisa Traeger
I mean, this season's dark.
[76:06]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. There's so much drama already.
[76:09]
Lisa Traeger
The new girls came in hot.
[76:11]
Gabby Windy
They did.
[76:12]
Lisa Traeger
And Portia's falling apart of Kenya, losing her mind. Yeah.
[76:16]
Gabby Windy
I love Portia.
[76:17]
Lisa Traeger
Me, too. I think she's one of the most beautiful housewives.
[76:20]
Gabby Windy
Same. She's gorgeous, and she's really funny and goofy, and she was talking. Was she talking to Kenya and about, like. I don't know. She was saying, like. She was like, yeah, you have a big vagina. She was, like, opening it and, like, I laugh out loud with them.
[76:35]
Lisa Traeger
That land. Women are the most, like, out, like, openly sexual and open with their lives, I feel.
[76:41]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And they call. Not even call people out, but they're just so honest with, like. Like, sitting down. Like, I loved. I was laughing with Portia and Kelly when they had their. Like, I don't ditch that. Yeah.
[76:55]
Lisa Traeger
I'd be comfortable but confident in my body. It's so hard. You're the girl of the Internet. I should have hired hair and makeup for this. No.
[77:04]
Gabby Windy
These cameras are so forgiving.
[77:06]
Lisa Traeger
Oh.
[77:06]
Gabby Windy
I also look like I just got out of, like, a junior high.
[77:09]
Lisa Traeger
Well, the safety pin is crazy. That was the shocking thing, though.
[77:14]
Gabby Windy
And I saw it, and I didn't change it, but it is holding it together. I'm like, this is all. Because everything else is bagged. Oh, yeah.
[77:21]
Lisa Traeger
You're moving, so this is crazy. You got married, like, a few days ago, and then you're Moving tomorrow at 8am I know.
[77:28]
Gabby Windy
My face was like, how do you feel? I'm like, what do you mean? Like, I. I feel obviously overwhelmed. But this isn't like, a huge, like. I mean, I guess it is a big life decision.
[77:38]
Lisa Traeger
No, you'll be fine.
[77:39]
Gabby Windy
No, totally. But it's like, we were ready, and we. We just have to move.
[77:42]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Are you guys gonna go on a honeymoon, or are you just always permanently honeymooning?
[77:46]
Gabby Windy
I think always permanently. We don't love to travel. It's like, even her country house. Going to her country house is, like. Is like a trek, and it's so high. The altitude really gets to us. Gets to her mostly.
[78:00]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. You cheerleaded in Denver. You're probably good at the altitude.
[78:04]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. I mean, you get used to feeling, like, all the time. I think the altitude is bad for your health, and we're slow to come around to it.
[78:11]
Lisa Traeger
You think so?
[78:12]
Gabby Windy
I do.
[78:13]
Lisa Traeger
Wow. Just not enough air.
[78:15]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Literally, if you come in with, like, a lung issue to the hospital, and it's like, there's nothing we can do. You got to go to sea level, and then they're fixed, and it's really bad for your skin.
[78:27]
Lisa Traeger
Sea level?
[78:28]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. You got to be at sea level.
[78:30]
Lisa Traeger
To do to get better.
[78:32]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And to be healthy.
[78:33]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I was out with friends and a woman, like, we just. She just kept having to, like, down on the ground because she had an edible and a few too many drinks. And the altitude got her.
[78:42]
Gabby Windy
Oh, where were you?
[78:43]
Lisa Traeger
They kept. In Denver. But they kept blaming me. They kept me like, you're edibles. I'm like, These edibles are 10 milligrams. Like, these can't be it. And then she just kept having to sit down and lay down. And then finally I was like, we're in Denver.
[78:54]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, yeah. No, it's altitude. You can't drink that much in. In altitude either.
[78:58]
Lisa Traeger
Because I went to a wedding there. And the signature drinks were non alcoholic to remind people to drink water.
[79:03]
Gabby Windy
Yes, yes, yes. Do you drink?
[79:06]
Lisa Traeger
I do.
[79:06]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[79:07]
Lisa Traeger
But it's not my everyday vice. Like, I can drink. I cannot drink. I don't really care. If I party, I'll have, like, I don't really think about it. Yeah, but weed, if it's in the house, I'm smoking it.
[79:16]
Gabby Windy
Yes, same. I'll like, literally, I could. You know they talk about roach clips.
[79:21]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, talk about them. Who's talking about them?
[79:26]
Gabby Windy
Us. Yeah. Now I could use one.
[79:29]
Lisa Traeger
No. People think I'm pathetic and I'm embarrassed around people that are doing well and don't have, like, the instincts I have of saving every little roach. Because in my head I'm like, I'm gonna want a little puff before it train. Like, I don't. Yeah, I can't throw them out. And then sometimes I give myself pep talks like, you, you don't need this little puff. You could throw it away. Like, it shouldn't have control over you. And then, I don't know, it's. It's really dark.
[79:53]
Gabby Windy
No, that's.
[79:53]
Lisa Traeger
I was at a meeting today and they go, it smells like weed. I go, it's a bunch of half joints in my purse that I refuse to get rid of.
[80:01]
Gabby Windy
And when you. It's the worst when you travel and like, some joints are more stinky or some purses will hold on to the scent more. So if you like, it's like going through TSA and you crack one little sliver and it comes out. I'm like, that cannot be me.
[80:15]
Lisa Traeger
That's why I. Sometimes when I go to Soul Cycle and I reopen my locker, I wonder if the people around me are like sensing the little roach in my pockets. And I won't even put them in containers all the time. I'll wrap them, I'll put them in side pockets. Like, yeah, no, it's too much.
[80:31]
Gabby Windy
Rabb me a container. But it's like, it never comes out easy. I can't do the extra step. I just need it really quick. But I feel like. Isn't everyone smoking weed? I feel like there's still like. It's like the party girl is so normal, but is the stoner?
[80:47]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I don't know, because I recently had. We. I went out and about with another stoner. Yeah, we forgot our umbrellas. We got on the wrong train. Like, you need one person to keep you in line.
[80:57]
Gabby Windy
Yes, I've done that before. We, like, my friend and I, when I was living at the AKA for Dancing with the Stars, is. It's like. Do you know what it is?
[81:05]
Lisa Traeger
It's like apartments.
[81:07]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah.
[81:07]
Lisa Traeger
Where child actors live. Is that it?
[81:11]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[81:11]
Lisa Traeger
Okay.
[81:12]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. They're like long term stays. Like, at first I walked in, I was like, what is this? But you get such an attachment. The house. Like, you got weekly house cleaning. I know. And they would literally. I would put my vibrator under the pillow and they would set it out for me on the table. Probably. Probably cleaned. Yeah, Cleaned up my ashtray. Anyways, my friend and I got like, super high. Same thing. And we got into three different Ubers that we thought were ours. So, like, one was like, just a normal person. The other one was Uber Eats who was offering to take us somewhere. No. Right. But we were high, so it's like, is this okay? Like, we stayed for way longer than we should have, and at the very. At the umpteenth hour, we got out. Dashed.
[81:55]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Yesterday I took a cough drop from a driver and I regretted it, but I kept sucking on it.
[82:00]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. I mean, but it's a low risk.
[82:05]
Lisa Traeger
I don't know. I was nervous. I was nervous. But yeah, you can't get into an Uber Eats because of course they wanted to trap you guys in there.
[82:11]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And then you're not taking, you know. Totally. This is why I can't. Like, I do want to get to the point where I can live every day high, even though it's like, okay, what are you running from? But it's like, would a meeting be better if I was high?
[82:26]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, that. I thought you meant like, aa. I'm like, definitely don't do that. No, I'm high a lot. And I guess the line is like, who am I really? But sometimes I feel like I'm. I hate when I go, I'm tired. But it's like, no, you're not, you dumb. You've been smoking weed all day. You're not tired.
[82:43]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[82:43]
Lisa Traeger
It's not like you, you know, climbed or something.
[82:46]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, literally. That's what I hate, too. I'm like, even I'M like, I'm only tired because I'm smart. Smoking weed at night.
[82:52]
Lisa Traeger
What do you mean?
[82:54]
Gabby Windy
Because it's like natural circadian rhythm. So it's like when, when 8:00 comes around, I'm feeling sleepy. Much more sleepy than I have been. So I'm like, it can't be the weed.
[83:04]
Lisa Traeger
Are you an early to bed girl?
[83:06]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Because you're a night owl.
[83:08]
Lisa Traeger
I am.
[83:09]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. So I asked what you were watching and you've seen it all.
[83:13]
Lisa Traeger
I have.
[83:14]
Gabby Windy
Do you stay up all night?
[83:15]
Lisa Traeger
And I fall asleep to shows as well. Yeah, but I. I can stay up all night. I'm also. I'm getting older, but I just. This lifestyle, it's like sometimes you're out late, you have that morning flight, you have to nap. You kind of just like get into that lifestyle.
[83:30]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[83:31]
Lisa Traeger
Because going to bed at one or two in the morning is not that late. But when you have that 7am flight, it's just like a nightmare.
[83:36]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Do you have a 7:00am flight tomorrow?
[83:38]
Lisa Traeger
Mine's at 9.
[83:39]
Gabby Windy
Okay, good.
[83:40]
Lisa Traeger
So it'll be okay.
[83:41]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[83:41]
Lisa Traeger
I'm thinking of my last flight out, but my friend needed a chat, so. Of course I met her for a happy hour. Yeah, I had to packing.
[83:50]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[83:51]
Lisa Traeger
She cried. So like, you know, it was necessary. Right.
[83:54]
Gabby Windy
Is she okay?
[83:55]
Lisa Traeger
She'll be okay.
[83:56]
Gabby Windy
Okay, good. Yeah, no, yeah, you got it. I mean, you have to be the shoulder.
[84:00]
Lisa Traeger
She's gonna listen to this and be pissed.
[84:03]
Gabby Windy
No, because I love. Because she's your friend, but I love in your special how you outwardly talk shit. You're like, I hate this person. I hope they're listening. And you in the comments.
[84:12]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah. That's embarrassing.
[84:15]
Gabby Windy
Oh, I love it.
[84:16]
Lisa Traeger
I will fight.
[84:17]
Gabby Windy
Yeah.
[84:18]
Lisa Traeger
But about things that don't matter, like. Or the government. But I assume those are bots, right? I assume. If it's government, it's bots. Yeah.
[84:26]
Gabby Windy
Like, how do the bots work? Like, can you just like pre program them to say something about, like, how do they know what they're saying? Is it. I.
[84:34]
Lisa Traeger
That's past.
[84:35]
Gabby Windy
Okay.
[84:36]
Lisa Traeger
Like technology?
[84:38]
Gabby Windy
Because I wouldn't even assume. But then I was on Tik Tok, Coachella, TikTok. Have you seen those?
[84:43]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I love looking at the outfits and people have a good time with their friends. I'm like, okay. Looking at Coachella from a distance.
[84:49]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, totally. I got FOMO for the first time in my life because of Bernie Sanders and Julia Fox.
[84:54]
Lisa Traeger
I think you're going to be able to see both of them out and about. I hope so, because he's going to lead this hopeful revolution.
[85:00]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Yeah.
[85:00]
Lisa Traeger
And you guys are fashion girls.
[85:02]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. You'll.
[85:03]
Lisa Traeger
You'll meet.
[85:04]
Gabby Windy
I mean, I hope so. But it's like, yeah, I just cannot do Coachella. But the whole campaign was a thing. And then. So this guy was getting a lot of views. And then all. All of the comments were like, you lost me at boyfriend because he's gay. I'm like, nobody on TikTok Tick tock cares. And it was like, the first comments. The first comments.
[85:23]
Lisa Traeger
Not believe what happened to me today. No. I'm walking to get some coffee. Two guy. Two hot guys are making out. I'm into it. I see a group of old, like, dudes not liking it across the street. And I hear one go, I guess this is America. And so I go, you to these guys. But the gay guys didn't hear. Seriously. So they thought I was hate criming them.
[85:48]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my.
[85:49]
Lisa Traeger
So they stop making out and are, like, shocked. All they hear is a woman go, you right next to them. Keep walking. So I turn around and they're staring at me in shock.
[85:59]
Gabby Windy
And I go, you have to explain yourself.
[86:01]
Lisa Traeger
I was like, they were actually hate crying. I got involved. Did I apologize?
[86:06]
Gabby Windy
Yes. No. You missed the whole thing. Now I look like the guilty party. Talking yourself out of that.
[86:11]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. And they just laughed. And then I was like, I'm into what you're doing.
[86:15]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, please. I love seeing.
[86:16]
Lisa Traeger
And then I saw Demi Moore's daughter at the coffee shop.
[86:18]
Gabby Windy
Oh, my God.
[86:19]
Lisa Traeger
She went by a fake name.
[86:20]
Gabby Windy
Which one? The Oldest rumor.
[86:22]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[86:22]
Gabby Windy
Did you watch the Substance?
[86:24]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[86:24]
Gabby Windy
Did you like it?
[86:25]
Lisa Traeger
I loved it. I sat in the movie theater and I went, this is why we go to the movies. I go, this is what I want to see in the movies.
[86:32]
Gabby Windy
I loved it. It took a freaky turn at the end. Like, kind of very sci fi. But I was so into, like, the end. Everything coming out of her back. Like, her having two heads. Like, this is exactly where it needs to go.
[86:44]
Lisa Traeger
Yes. Because I love that. She then took a photo of that face that she didn't want anymore. And yeah. Stuck it. Like. Yeah.
[86:51]
Gabby Windy
Where was. It's like there was like, a tick coming out of, like, her belly button, I think. And like, same like, I would want that.
[86:59]
Lisa Traeger
You would want to be a freak?
[87:01]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Like a monster at night.
[87:04]
Lisa Traeger
No. Yeah.
[87:06]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, I think so. Someone I can't recognize. Someone totally free. It's like, I get why Britney shaved her head.
[87:12]
Lisa Traeger
Well, but, yeah, we know why she did it. Right.
[87:14]
Gabby Windy
Well, she. Yeah. I mean, she didn't want to be sexualized anymore. She was known for her long blonde hair is what she says, but I'm sure there's other things. Yeah, Yeah.
[87:24]
Lisa Traeger
I don't want to perpetuate rudeness because I love her so much, but I heard it's like, so she didn't get a positive drug test, but you're a nurse. How does it work? Like. Like, if she shaved everything, they couldn't get the evidence. Oh, but that could be just haters. And then I, Like, I've never actually.
[87:42]
Gabby Windy
Like, I've drug tested a lot for nursing. Nobody has ever done hair out.
[87:46]
Lisa Traeger
No.
[87:48]
Gabby Windy
But you know what I did see? Speaking of ripping hair out, I was like on obviously, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Twitter, and they were talking about, like, Portia was like, oh, if. Who's the one. Did you watch the episode where Britt says she has a pistol?
[88:05]
Lisa Traeger
Yes.
[88:06]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Who's the. The other party? Who's the other girl who was, like, showing the. Did you like the revenge porn? Basically?
[88:13]
Lisa Traeger
Well, Kenya.
[88:13]
Gabby Windy
Kenya.
[88:14]
Lisa Traeger
Okay.
[88:14]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, No, I forgot her name.
[88:15]
Lisa Traeger
I just never in a million years thought that that's who you were. Yeah, but Kenya. Cuz. And then the new. You know, there was four new girls. It's, like, hard to learn everywhere.
[88:22]
Gabby Windy
Who are all of them? This is my first season.
[88:24]
Lisa Traeger
It's. It's like Kelly, Shamia, Brit.
[88:29]
Gabby Windy
And Sham's new.
[88:31]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. She was always a friend of Porsche.
[88:33]
Gabby Windy
Oh, yeah. When they asked.
[88:35]
Lisa Traeger
You got to go back in time. You are really. I think you're going. Love it. And I think for Halloween, you're going to be Kim Zolciak.
[88:41]
Gabby Windy
Who's that?
[88:42]
Lisa Traeger
She is, like, the one with, like, blonde. Like, blonde wig in season one.
[88:46]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Yes.
[88:46]
Lisa Traeger
No, she the one be dirty for the party.
[88:49]
Gabby Windy
She's, like, always the meme. Is she like I said what? I said.
[88:52]
Lisa Traeger
No, no, that's Nene. I'm like, well, no, Kim's the only white one.
[88:56]
Gabby Windy
Okay. Yes, thank you. Yeah.
[88:58]
Lisa Traeger
But Nene, like, I didn't even know white refrigerators were bad until Nene.
[89:03]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, she taught me a lot. Yes, she taught me a lot. No. Yeah. No, I have to go back. I started with the first season. Takes so long. Or long.
[89:11]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, so you're drawing, like, both at once.
[89:13]
Gabby Windy
Yes.
[89:13]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[89:14]
Gabby Windy
But I did see a video of Portia dragging Kenya by her hair at a reunion. No, I wish. I don't, like. I. A lot of things don't get to me because I'm so severely depressed and probably high. And I'm like, whatever. I've seen it before, but this I actually wish I could have, like, unseen. And I love Portia so much.
[89:34]
Lisa Traeger
I hate. Well, she also thought that the underground rail railroad was a railroad. Oh, yeah, that.
[89:40]
Gabby Windy
It.
[89:40]
Lisa Traeger
That will be in one of her seasons.
[89:44]
Gabby Windy
So that's, like.
[89:45]
Lisa Traeger
It was pretty amazing.
[89:47]
Gabby Windy
Totally Atlantic.
[89:48]
Lisa Traeger
I mean, the Housewives overall.
[89:49]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Okay, well, where else can we find you? I'll link all your.
[89:52]
Lisa Traeger
Let me ask you one more question, please. Do you prep for your solo ones with some idea? Are you okay?
[89:58]
Gabby Windy
Yes. I like to have, like.
[90:00]
Lisa Traeger
You're always scribbling some stuff.
[90:02]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, just some, like, bullet points so I know where I'm going, or else I'll be like. Like, I've tried to, like, get high a coup times, and it just, like, didn't really go anywhere. But I want to try again because I think once I get more comfortable, it'll be fine. Yeah, I have, like, bullet points. I try and get, like, four topics in, you know.
[90:21]
Lisa Traeger
Hell, yeah.
[90:22]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And, like, because I'm talking for an hour, so much so now I'm trying to do, like, 45 minutes.
[90:28]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
[90:28]
Gabby Windy
Because people tune out anyway.
[90:30]
Lisa Traeger
For sure. I know my SVU podcast. Our episodes are, like, two and a half hours. I really don't. People are like, I listen to you to and from work. I'm like, I bet it lasts all week. Yeah, like, good.
[90:39]
Gabby Windy
No, but, like, I feel like. Like it's one or the other. Like, Trisha Paytas has really long episodes.
[90:44]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, really? Wait, so you love Trisha Paytas?
[90:46]
Gabby Windy
I love Trisha Paytas.
[90:47]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. I didn't know much about her till this past year, but I just, like, love watching her dreams come true.
[90:52]
Gabby Windy
Same. Yes.
[90:54]
Lisa Traeger
Her on snl or, like, she's. I know, it's incredible.
[90:58]
Gabby Windy
No, it's so sick.
[90:59]
Lisa Traeger
And I love when it's people being themselves in, like, an authentic way. And not in a classic way either.
[91:05]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, no, she's doing her complete, completely own thing. She's just, like, going off the wall. Like, Lip singing, being herself. It's amazing. No, she's not Lip singing. She's really singing. She has the same voice coach as Ariana Grande.
[91:18]
Lisa Traeger
Really?
[91:19]
Gabby Windy
That's what I heard.
[91:20]
Lisa Traeger
Wow.
[91:21]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No, I love her. Well, yeah.
[91:27]
Lisa Traeger
Have you guys met?
[91:28]
Gabby Windy
No, but we're fans of each other. Yeah.
[91:30]
Lisa Traeger
You're gonna meet soon. That'll be the crossover event of the. The Internet.
[91:34]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. No, I have something for her, and she's listening.
[91:39]
Lisa Traeger
I can't wait.
[91:41]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Yeah.
[91:43]
Lisa Traeger
You're gonna eat your car Together.
[91:45]
Gabby Windy
What do you. Yeah, yeah. I mean, any. I love In N Out and Wingstop.
[91:51]
Lisa Traeger
I saw you actually eating Wingstop recently. I love Wingstop. I love the barbecue. Boneless.
[91:56]
Gabby Windy
Same, double fried.
[91:58]
Lisa Traeger
So good.
[91:59]
Gabby Windy
It's so good. Deep. You do the corn? No, no, I dunk it in ranch. It tastes like ranch. It's the best. And it, like, gives you a little break from the chicken so the chicken's not gone so fast.
[92:09]
Lisa Traeger
Okay. I usually would just get fries, but I'll try the corn.
[92:11]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, it's pretty good. It's seasoned well. And you can like. With the ranch. It's so good. Robbie's never had Wingstop and refuses. She's just like, not. She does love a vegetable. She has to have, like a green bean or something, like, kind of hearty. I know he's a little. Loving you. Who's dad, Nordle.
[92:33]
Lisa Traeger
I just love pets.
[92:35]
Gabby Windy
Yeah, no, he's the best.
[92:37]
Lisa Traeger
And I love. I mean, this is huge that they're together because one of the first times I think I met you, I said there was like a. Yeah. A real altercation.
[92:45]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Brawl, we thought.
[92:46]
Lisa Traeger
Brawl.
[92:47]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. The cat was, like, almost out the door. He was still chasing her. And she gets brave now, though. Like, she'll walk. It's like you can't even feel bad for her because she just will walk. Walk into some, like, right in his face. I'm like, what are you thinking?
[92:59]
Lisa Traeger
Who's scared of who more?
[93:01]
Gabby Windy
She's scared of him. He wants to play, but it's like, he's so big. So imagine being that tiny and have something so big and dumb coming at you. Like, I get it. There is a power dynamic.
[93:16]
Lisa Traeger
Sorry. And the. The eyes are really human. It's, like, tough.
[93:21]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. And his eyebrows. He's not like. Like, I can't look at him and see a dog. I don't know what he is, but he's not like a dog.
[93:30]
Lisa Traeger
No. The doodles have really human eyes.
[93:32]
Gabby Windy
Yeah. Some people hate it, but I'm like, yeah, not him. His. His left his body long ago. But maybe. Maybe his brethren. Okay, well, do you want to do your insta. Or I can link it.
[93:49]
Lisa Traeger
I'm Glitter Cheese. I'm on Glitter Cheese. And then my podcast is. That's messed up. An SVU podcast. And then my specials. Night Owl.
[93:56]
Gabby Windy
Yes. Yeah, we'll link everything and.
[93:59]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, I'm on the road. Yeah. Cool. Thanks, guys.
[94:01]
Gabby Windy
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