Renee Rapp

Summary

Podcast Summary: Long Winded with Gabby Windey – Episode Featuring Renee Rapp

Episode Information:

• Title: Renee Rapp
• Release Date: August 14, 2025
• Host: Dear Media’s Gabby Windey

Overview: In this engaging episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey, host Gabby Windey sits down with actress and singer Renee Rapp to delve deep into topics central to today’s audience, including dating, sexuality, mental health, and pop culture. Moving beyond superficial questions, Gabby and Renee explore their personal experiences, relationship dynamics, and creative journeys with authenticity and humor.

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1. Introduction and Relationship Dynamics

The episode kicks off with Gabby and Renee exchanging playful banter, setting a relaxed and candid tone for the conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• Renee Rapp [02:00]: “A triple threat. An actor, a singer, a doer of the splits.”
• Gabby Windey [02:06]: “100% pussy on the floor now.”

2. Exploring Sexuality and Practices

Gabby initiates a frank discussion about lesbian sexual practices, particularly focusing on the use of strap-ons and scissoring. They humorously navigate their preferences and experiences, highlighting the diversity within the lesbian community.

Notable Quotes:

• Renee Rapp [08:15]: “Please. I want to, like, bump and grind easy, you know, it feels, like, animalistic. It feels primal.”
• Gabby Windey [17:03]: “But it's giving the same. Yeah, yeah.”

3. Coming Out and Self-Discovery

Renee shares her journey of recognizing her sexuality, recounting her first awareness during her teenage years in a theater production of Carrie. Gabby relates by sharing her own experiences of understanding her identity through unique influences.

Notable Quotes:

• Gabby Windey [20:12]: “I was probably like 14 and I was in a production, a musical theater production.”
• Renee Rapp [20:44]: “Like, we age better. I feel that's how I know I'm a lesbian is because like the 50 year olds, they do it for me.”

4. Maintaining Individuality in Relationships

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the importance of retaining individuality within romantic relationships. Both Gabby and Renee emphasize the necessity of personal space and maintaining separate interests to foster healthy partnerships.

Notable Quotes:

• Gabby Windey [34:06]: “I love my alone time and I love my down time.”
• Renee Rapp [34:55]: “We won't feel like we have to compromise your individuality.”

5. Dealing with Labels: Embracing 'Bitch'

Gabby and Renee tackle the societal label of being a "bitch," discussing how asserting boundaries is often misconstrued. They advocate for embracing such labels when they stem from self-respect and mutual understanding in relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• Gabby Windey [41:28]: “I love being labeled a bitch because I just don't feel like it's bad.”
• Renee Rapp [41:37]: “I'm gonna be a bitch in work, 100%.”

6. Astrology and Personal Traits

The conversation takes a lighthearted turn as Gabby and Renee share their astrological signs, discussing how their rising and moon signs influence their personalities and interactions.

Notable Quotes:

• Gabby Windey [44:08]: “I'm a Gemini rising and a Pisces moon.”
• Renee Rapp [44:10]: “What's your rising and moon? My rising is Aries, and my moon is a Leo.”

7. Pop Culture and Media Preferences

Gabby and Renee engage in a spirited discussion about their favorite TV shows and musicals. They critique Wicked, express their unabashed love for Law & Order: SVU, and share humorous takes on character dynamics and plot twists.

Notable Quotes:

• Renee Rapp [50:07]: “I started on Atlanta. On Atlanta. She's the best housewife ever of all time.”
• Gabby Windey [54:00]: “She's been green for forever.”

8. Creative Endeavors: Albums and Tours

The hosts briefly touch upon their creative projects. Renee mentions her upcoming album "Bite Me," reflecting on its personal significance and the influence of her upbringing on its themes.

Notable Quotes:

• Gabby Windey [39:27]: “I love it. I've always loved it. It was something my dad always said growing up.”
• Renee Rapp [67:34]: “Tell us about your album when it comes out, what you're doing, going on tour.”

9. Closing Remarks and Future Plans

As the episode wraps up, Gabby and Renee reiterate their support for each other’s projects and express excitement about upcoming tours and album releases, highlighting the strength of their friendship and professional collaboration.

Notable Quotes:

• Renee Rapp [68:27]: “Like, you don't know who has your back.”
• Gabby Windey [68:38]: “You're a musician. I might as well start now.”

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Conclusion: This episode of Long Winded with Gabby Windey offers a candid and humorous exploration of lesbian relationships, identity, and personal growth. Gabby and Renee’s honest dialogue provides listeners with relatable insights into maintaining individuality within partnerships, embracing one’s sexuality, and navigating the complexities of modern relationships—all punctuated with witty exchanges and heartfelt moments.

Transcript

[Gabby Windy]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hey. Hey, hey. Hey. How did it go? Hey. Here you go, baby.

[Renee Rapp]

Thank you.

[Gabby Windy]

Hey. Yay.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, we've already had, like, 15 minutes of debauchery.

[Gabby Windy]

We're debriefed fully. I've already been pissed.

[Renee Rapp]

We know each other.

[Gabby Windy]

I, Like, I'm immediately upset. Immediately.

[Renee Rapp]

No, that's why I feel like we're gonna, like, get along. We're both. Cap. First of all, here's your Duncan refresher.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank God.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. I didn't ask how many people were gonna come, but thank God I did. But I'm like, all of you can't have a Dunkin refresher.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Just so you know, Renee rolls 10 deep.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

There's not enough parking.

[Gabby Windy]

No. This is kind of the story of, like, my life. Always my life always. Everybody's like, oh, we got, like, two meals, and there's, like, 15 of us. I'm like, yep. And then five more people pull up. I'm like, oh, my God. I had no idea you were coming, so. It's so good to see you.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

I've. Luckily, I got seating, which is, like, an antique.

[Gabby Windy]

What.

[Renee Rapp]

What is that called? Not a bench. Something like. It's. Robbie's. Not a dump. Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Something you put things inside.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes. That's.

[Gabby Windy]

What.

[Renee Rapp]

It's Bleachers.

[Gabby Windy]

God. I was gonna say a bunker, but that's not right, Literally.

[Renee Rapp]

But it's giving the same. Yeah, yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Something.

[Renee Rapp]

It could withstand a bomb, and there are, like, important things in there, so that's actually good. Oh, good.

[Gabby Windy]

Wait. Yeah. Okay, good.

[Renee Rapp]

I'll try. This is great for marketing.

[Gabby Windy]

I kind of. I kind of. Kind of loved it.

[Renee Rapp]

Wow.

[Gabby Windy]

Kind of love.

[Renee Rapp]

From your mouth to God. Dare to Duncan. No.

[Gabby Windy]

Literally.

[Renee Rapp]

Pay me more.

[Gabby Windy]

No.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Run it up. Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, can I introduce you?

[Gabby Windy]

Please. Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

Renee Rapp.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

A triple threat.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you.

[Renee Rapp]

An actor, a singer, a doer of the splits.

[Gabby Windy]

God.

[Renee Rapp]

I heard.

[Gabby Windy]

God, believe you me, I'm splitting on my.

[Renee Rapp]

Will you prove it? Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

100% pussy on the floor now.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally.

[Gabby Windy]

Please.

[Renee Rapp]

That's what it's for.

[Gabby Windy]

Puss on the floor.

[Renee Rapp]

That's what I'm hoping for. I'm always dying to get lesbians on the podcast because there's just, like, not enough of them.

[Gabby Windy]

No, no, no. But we all at least know each other, so I feel like we can hook you up with kind of a. Like. Like a rolling one every week.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Because we're. We're plentiful, but we.

[Renee Rapp]

Strong dedicated.

[Gabby Windy]

Strong, dedicated. We just, like, stay in the Same group. So when you get one, you have 10?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

They come out of nowhere.

[Renee Rapp]

You have a very, like, strong lesbian friend group. I feel. Where did you find all of them?

[Gabby Windy]

You gather them from dating them?

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, okay. Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Actually. And are you guys.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

And is there lesbian drama? I just perked up.

[Gabby Windy]

No, I know. We actually. We don't have, like, any lesbian drama in our friend. Well, I mean, I digress. No, we don't really have any in our friend group.

[Renee Rapp]

They're all white. It's hard to say.

[Gabby Windy]

They're all cute. They're all watching. They're like. Oh, we don't. We don't. No, we don't really have any. On the occasion, we usually have drama with other people who are not in the friend group or, like.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

With other lesbians. Or drama in general. Because, like, you hear I'm basically. My lesbian experience is so different. It's like I just became one, and now I'm married.

[Gabby Windy]

Right. Of course.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

It happened so fast, which is the same.

[Gabby Windy]

It's kind of. Yeah, it's on par.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally, it's on par.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, it's on par.

[Renee Rapp]

But there's no, like, networking. I don't have a ton of lesbian friends, but the heteros are like, ow. I'm like, you just don't get it.

[Gabby Windy]

No, they don't understand. I went to. I went to a bar the other night with two of my friends who are boys.

[Renee Rapp]

Where'd you find them?

[Gabby Windy]

Well, we work together.

[Renee Rapp]

Are they gay?

[Gabby Windy]

No. I wish. They're really straight.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Yeah. Keeps getting worse. National Geographic.

[Gabby Windy]

It's really bad. But we. We were working, and then we were like, all right, we're gonna go get dinner. And then they were like, oh, it's like, our friend's birthday. Like, we're gonna go to this bar down the street. And I was like, oh, my God. Okay, cool. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna put myself out there. I haven't seen straight people in so long. Like, let me tap back in with you guys, you know?

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Let me see, like, how you're. How you do what you're wearing. Like, how are you doing? What's new?

[Renee Rapp]

What are you wearing? What are you looking like.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. What are you wearing?

[Renee Rapp]

Nowadays, straight. They come in all kinds of forms, I feel like, these days. Okay, but please, you're about to get there.

[Gabby Windy]

No, no, I. We walked to this bar, and I swear to God, I left within 15 minutes of being there. And I was like, no tea, no shade. I get it. Like, you guys have your thing and you have your, like, way of talking and, like, what are they saying?

[Renee Rapp]

Like, hype. They're just fire.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. They're like, oh, brother. I'm like, yeah. I like, stop it. Stop it. Yeah. The lingo's weird. The lingo's weird. And they all just kind of, like, stand there and they're like, oh, what's good, my boy? And I do that. But in, like, a gay way.

[Renee Rapp]

Exactly.

[Gabby Windy]

So I hate when they do it. And I left within 15 minutes because I was just like, damn. It's just like. And. And even, like I said to one of the girls, I was like, damn, like, everybody's just really straight here. And she was like, no, no, no, no. We have, like, a lot of, like, we have a lot of, like, gay people in the mix.

[Renee Rapp]

And I was like, start defending them. I was like, no, I swear, it's okay.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, I was like, I don't really know, though, because, like, being, like, culturally gay and, like, gay is very different. Like, you're like, if you're not, like, culturally, like, queer. I'm not really feeling like I want to hang out.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, if you haven't had the experience.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. Like, I just was like, I'm gonna go home and I want to text my friends and just say, like, hey, guys, I don't want to hang out with people who aren't you.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

What are you doing?

[Renee Rapp]

Total.

[Gabby Windy]

I was there for a.

[Renee Rapp]

No new friends. I'm sorry.

[Gabby Windy]

No, no. Unless.

[Renee Rapp]

What are you gonna do with that?

[Gabby Windy]

Unless they fit.

[Renee Rapp]

Unless they're gay. Unless they're gay.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, like, you would do so well with the group of lesbians. You would do so well.

[Renee Rapp]

Thank you. I need them. Honestly. I have, like, one lesbian friend.

[Gabby Windy]

Just one.

[Renee Rapp]

Just one. Can I have two friends total?

[Gabby Windy]

Okay, that's fine. That's completely fine.

[Renee Rapp]

So that's half.

[Gabby Windy]

But that's good.

[Renee Rapp]

No, but. Cause. Okay. Because I feel like in the beginning, sometimes the lesbian community can be very intimidating, especially in the industry. Like, my wife is. Is a writer and a comedian, so we would go to, like, dinners and stuff. I'm like, I don't want to hear fudgeing dinner.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

And talk about what's her. Virginia Woolf.

[Gabby Windy]

What's that exactly?

[Renee Rapp]

Our lesbian icon.

[Unknown]

You.

[Gabby Windy]

Who's Virginia?

[Renee Rapp]

She is supposed to be. She's like an author, like, old timey.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, oh, my God, Love her work.

[Renee Rapp]

No, but. But that's the thing is you don't have to.

[Gabby Windy]

Is she gay?

[Renee Rapp]

She was, like, giving gay, like, back then. You Couldn't totally be. But people see her as a feminist. I didn't really relate to her work.

[Gabby Windy]

Is she alive?

[Renee Rapp]

No.

[Gabby Windy]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Because I was like, wait, whose vagina? Literally, who's vagina right now? Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

But yeah, so it's like, it kind of like, I feel like there are some lesbians that are still pretentious. I like to toe the line sometimes. I can be very pretentious.

[Gabby Windy]

Of course.

[Renee Rapp]

It's a Right. I'm quite like, come on. I'm oppressed. I get to be.

[Gabby Windy]

No, you get to be pretentious.

[Renee Rapp]

But only me. Pretentious in other ones.

[Gabby Windy]

Pretentious in a cute. In a cute way. In a cute way. I think that's nice when it gets, like, pretentious and, like, holier than thou.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Renee Rapp]

And like, I feel like I'm not gay enough.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Which that was a question I kind of got in the beginning. They're like, do you feel gay enough? I'm like, I'm fully having sex with a girl. Like, what do you mean? Like, I'm pretty gay.

[Gabby Windy]

You're like, I'm literally eating box, and I'm questioning if I'm gay enough.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm scissoring fully.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

This is like, I have my lesbian. Like, I earned it and I love it. It's not just a. I married it.

[Gabby Windy]

You're like, this is not just for the press.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

This is real.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

We're real life scissoring in this bitch.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally. Do you scissor?

[Gabby Windy]

Love scissoring, everybody?

[Renee Rapp]

I like to ask everyone on the.

[Gabby Windy]

Podcast, because some people are like, no, no, no. I'm like, are we dense? Of course.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Which, like, Robbie, like, doesn't like to scissor. I'm always begging to scissor.

[Gabby Windy]

Of course. It's so fun. Also, just the thought of being like, oh, no, we're scissoring. This is so sick.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, Literally, like, what a word.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Like wa. Scissoring. It's getting cute.

[Renee Rapp]

Please.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, I want to, like, bump and grind easy, you know, it feels, like, animalistic. It feels primal. It also feels like sex.

[Gabby Windy]

It also takes, like, you really have to be engaged. Yeah, you have to be engaged, like, in your. In your core and, like, the dents of your pelvis. Arms as well, depending where you are.

[Renee Rapp]

Right, Right.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, you have to. You use the.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

The secondary Pilates muscles.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Inner thighs.

[Gabby Windy]

Of course, some people's hips are just naturally open. Some people's aren't. It's a puzzle.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

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[Gabby Windy]

I have you ever. First of all, thank you. I just want to say this is.

[Renee Rapp]

Also a prerequisite to thank God. These are what I like to ask all of my lesbian guests.

[Gabby Windy]

Love. Of course.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Yes, of course. Yes. You're in good company.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. It's a necessity. Dick me down.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Okay. And do you guys switch?

[Gabby Windy]

I think that I'm more of a switch than I really am.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

You know what I mean? Yes. I keep. I keep, like for a long time. I was like, you know, I was like, I could, I could do it. I could. I could like. I could like kind of like serve somebody in that way.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

But my like current girlfriend is just like. She'll out mask me every time.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

You know.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

[Gabby Windy]

Not that you have to be mask to use a strap, right?

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, but it's kind of like what it comes with. It's like the aura. You have to be able feel comfortable like kind of like wearing a dick.

[Gabby Windy]

Of course.

[Renee Rapp]

Which I would do it in a.

[Gabby Windy]

Funny way, but I'm doing it at the club. There's a photo. Oh my God.

[Unknown]

We gotta see.

[Gabby Windy]

No, there's actually. I wish I knew where my phone was. There's literally a photo of me and my friends all. Yeah, I mean, this was also crazy. It was, it was like. It was a gay space. So I do just want to flag it was a gay space.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, I think strap ons, like people are like. It feels like, you know, profanity, but it's like it's actually just a tool. This is actually educational.

[Gabby Windy]

It is education.

[Renee Rapp]

The straight community needs to know.

[Gabby Windy]

No, it's also silicone. Like, it's silicone and it's like fucking purple and pink. Like this shit is fun. This is games. We need to be sucking strap in the club more.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Come on. Like this Is just jokes. It's funny. He, he.

[Renee Rapp]

We're having a good time.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, people walk around like, slanging that shit. Like, that's weird. We should just be walking around, slang that shit then. It's not weird, right?

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, it's not weird if girls do it.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, like, exactly.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes. If a man does it. Defin Robbie and I do like the flesh colored ones. Have you ever seen them? No. It's so crazy.

[Gabby Windy]

No, you fucking don't.

[Renee Rapp]

We love them.

[Gabby Windy]

Wait, genuinely?

[Renee Rapp]

Yes. We have so many. I could show you the ones that actually we love to show off our strap ons.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes, you can like, pull up. We get very realistic kinds. No, so expensive. Yeah. We've invested so much money. I know, but it's because it's like she calls me Goldie Cox. She's like, it's so hard to find one that like, you really like, you know, because lesbians are crazy with strap ons. They're so.

[Gabby Windy]

Are absolutely insane.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, it's nuts.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

No, for not liking real dick pounding. Like, this is scaring me. Yeah, so we. Yeah, we fuck with the real ones. At first I'm like, this is so weird. And then I got into it really fast.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, it scares me because it. It is looks like, right?

[Renee Rapp]

I think it's cause say.

[Gabby Windy]

Looks like dick. I'm like. And like, get that away from me.

[Renee Rapp]

Right?

[Gabby Windy]

Wait, but you're fucking with it.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, I think because like, I'm like, whatever. Like I'm used to having sex with men or I was so I feel like. It feels like what? I know.

[Gabby Windy]

Okay, wait.

[Renee Rapp]

And like, I'm down with it. And like, she likes it.

[Gabby Windy]

Maybe I gotta tap in.

[Renee Rapp]

Or you could explore. You might like it more than like, you think. Is there like, I need to get commission off these? I could give you the website.

[Gabby Windy]

No, literally, you do need it.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, I try and pitch it to everybody.

[Gabby Windy]

Is it like gradient? Is there ever like an ombre? Sort of.

[Renee Rapp]

You can pick skin colors.

[Gabby Windy]

Cool.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

There's all kinds. There's like circumcised, not circumcised. There's big balls, little balls.

[Gabby Windy]

That one has to go.

[Renee Rapp]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is where the balls are crazy. The balls are crazy.

[Gabby Windy]

That scares the shit.

[Renee Rapp]

What kind of.

[Gabby Windy]

They were freaks. That scares the shit out of me.

[Renee Rapp]

No, it's nuts because I'm without balls.

[Gabby Windy]

Real ones.

[Renee Rapp]

What do you mean?

[Gabby Windy]

So scary.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, yeah. They hang low.

[Gabby Windy]

Hate. Hey, anytime I saw that, I was like, yo, get that the out of my face right now. What the are you doing slamming that around?

[Renee Rapp]

Cut it off in real life.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

Against my will.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. Wait a second. Is this why you're lesbian? I. Sometimes I freak out because I don't know if the cameras are on. That was that. So this was the first time you saw balls irl? You wanted to chop them off.

[Gabby Windy]

I just was like, that's disgusting and you're repulsive.

[Renee Rapp]

But it was against your will.

[Gabby Windy]

It was against my will in the way that, like, you weren't ready. I just didn't. I was like, wait, what is that? Even though I knew that they were there.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, obviously, like, anatomy wise, I understand that with one inherently comes the other.

[Renee Rapp]

Would you be okay with one?

[Gabby Windy]

No. No. My God, no. I just think they're so disgusting. I like the. The.

[Renee Rapp]

They're performative.

[Gabby Windy]

The shaft is enough.

[Renee Rapp]

Exactly. Why do you have to have balls attached? Like, we get it.

[Gabby Windy]

You have something appendage and, like, something behind your piece. That's fucking weird.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I just can't. I don't like. I don't like it. And the fact that. Oh. Literally. Hated to my core.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Hated to my core.

[Renee Rapp]

Maybe steer clear of these. But you can get some without the balls. It's kind of fun to shop. I'll send you the link.

[Gabby Windy]

Send me the link because.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

You're getting them with balls.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm trying to think now. There is one. Like, Robbie has a packer with balls, but I feel like that's different. But some of ours. Yes. Don't have them. But I kind, you know, I don't mind.

[Gabby Windy]

Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

You'll see.

[Renee Rapp]

Maybe there's different things.

[Gabby Windy]

I get it.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm not trying to push balls on you.

[Gabby Windy]

Listen, I'll take balls from you.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

I'll take balls from you. I can see it being soft.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Ex.

[Renee Rapp]

Right?

[Gabby Windy]

That's a plus.

[Renee Rapp]

There's not the actual gonad.

[Gabby Windy]

I don't even know what that means, but I just literally had a shiver.

[Renee Rapp]

The sex organ. It's like, how come your sex organs get to be outside your body, but we have to hide ours? I was a nerd.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

This is why I know so much.

[Gabby Windy]

Wait, what is the word that you said?

[Renee Rapp]

Dick. Go Go nads.

[Gabby Windy]

What's a go yard? That's making me think of a go yard. What the hell is that?

[Renee Rapp]

Like a go gurt?

[Gabby Windy]

No, it's a go yard. Or gogurt maybe, is what I'm thinking about. Like the Zach and Cody, you know, they had the, like, gogurt.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, did they Do a gogurt commercial.

[Gabby Windy]

I think they did a gogurt collab and that just made me think about that. Anywho, but yeah, go.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, I know even it sounds scary. Forget I said it. I know. I feel like I'm scaring you. I don't wanna scare you.

[Gabby Windy]

You're not scaring me. You're not scaring me. I just didn't even think of. I haven't thought of a ball in years.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Even a single yes, let alone plural.

[Renee Rapp]

Right? Yeah, but Lance Armstrong. Yeah, definitely. Well, I don't wanna be the one to bring it back. Okay, so. Right, okay. But like. So when did you know you were gay? Or how I knew or it just kind of slowly happened. I knew that I was gay.

[Gabby Windy]

I. Well, I always felt like I was better than everyone else. So that sort of. Yeah. That sort of transformation.

[Renee Rapp]

We are being great.

[Gabby Windy]

It's not even up for. Up for debate.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

It's just a given.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, we see the world differently.

[Gabby Windy]

We're just beloved. Yeah, right.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Sometimes hated, of course, but by the right people. Exactly, Exactly. So I think I was probably like 14 and I was in a production, a musical theater production, if you will.

[Renee Rapp]

Community.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Ever seen the musical Carrie?

[Renee Rapp]

No, but is it like the movie?

[Gabby Windy]

It is like the movie.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

It's exactly like the movie. We were doing a production of Carrie and I thought that the girl who was playing Carrie just, she was like older than me and like, looked kind of like weird. And I was like, oh, that's cool.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

I was like, how much older was she? I'm into old lesbians.

[Gabby Windy]

Love an old lesbian.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, we age better. I feel that's how I know I'm a lesbian is because like the 50 year olds, they do it for me. A 50 year old man. No way.

[Gabby Windy]

A 50 year old man is a fucking hate crime. But a 50 year old lesbian is a goddamn delight.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Sexy.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. There's. There's truly nothing like them. Truly nothing like them. And she was probably like 10 years older than me, I think.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, yeah, that's a good.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. And I was like. I was. Yeah. So she was probably about my age now. She's probably about 24, 25. And I was like 14. So. Yeah, I mean, she was just weird looking. And I was like, I like that.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, I was like, you don't look like Mary sue who I go to school with, you know. Right.

[Renee Rapp]

No, I completely, like, I can relate.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Which I never want to, like, make it sound like a bad thing because, like, I feel like we're little more feminine. Would you. I feel like you kind of like switch.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

But like I do. I. I like the weird looking.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh my God. You know, weird. The weirder the better. I want the weird looking one. Cuz when I was a kid I was like, wait girl, where's your infinity scarf? You just stripped that down for me. Oh my God. Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

Naked, like I was like, you're vulnerable without your scarf.

[Gabby Windy]

It was like a. Just like a single like ripped shirt that she had on and like some spiky red hair and I was like, like oh, what's wrong with you, you little freak? I like that.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

I loved it. I loved it.

[Renee Rapp]

Is she a lesbian?

[Gabby Windy]

So much to my chagrin. No. Yeah, yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

She doesn't know it yet.

[Gabby Windy]

She's. I don't know what happened to her. She's dead actually.

[Renee Rapp]

Stop.

[Gabby Windy]

Right? She's dead. No, she's not dead.

[Renee Rapp]

But I don't know.

[Gabby Windy]

I never heard from her again. I don't think we spoke ever.

[Renee Rapp]

Right. And you were for Dane. Yes.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

I don't think we ever t. Yeah, but you saw that and you're like, I need a piece of that.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. I was like, what's going on? What's she doing? Yeah, she, she. She did all the like weird shit too. She like, you know, she had like hobbies that I didn't understand. She was like sewing shit, right? Yeah. I'm pretty sure she did something with clay.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Like pottery. I feel like that's very lesbian, very gay.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, okay, cool. Cool of you. I like it. She was just kind of weird and everybody I grew up around was so like like straight edged.

[Renee Rapp]

Right?

[Gabby Windy]

Like.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

It's good to see like something different. Like somebody who is like is. I feel like you can tell that they don't feel as much the pressures of society.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. 100 hot. 100. I was like, oh, I with you because you're like, you're like. It was like. I could tell that she was like artistic by looking at her.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

So I was like, oh, that's so cool. Because I was like, I don't really at that point in my life I didn't like present that way whatsoever.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

But I like loved seeing it come from like the inside, inside out. I was like, that's fine.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

And is your. Is your current girlfriend Toa? Is she your first girlfriend?

[Gabby Windy]

No.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, okay.

[Gabby Windy]

God, I wish.

[Renee Rapp]

No, you know what?

[Gabby Windy]

Yes, she is. I've never dated anyone before her.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Come to think of it.

[Renee Rapp]

I never.

[Gabby Windy]

I was absolutely abstinent prior to her.

[Renee Rapp]

No, I know. That's how I want my wife to be. Like, if she even brings up an ex girlfriend, which I understand. Lesbians are different because they're friends. I'm like, what the fuck? This is hurting my feelings.

[Gabby Windy]

I. I really. I used to be, like, I don't understand how people are friends with their exes. I think it's so weird. Yeah. Until I started having, like, really good friends who I've actually dated before, and that's how I know them from dating. And I'm like, right, this is kind of cool. But it's. It's only good when it's not, like, messy. Like, my friends who I've dated in the past, like, we. Like, I think, like, even when we were, like, seeing each other, we would. We were just like, damn, we'd be, like, really good friends, you know?

[Unknown]

Yeah, totally.

[Gabby Windy]

So I feel like that's good.

[Renee Rapp]

Is the transition hard? Because, like, does one have feelings and the other one does? Are you thinking about each other naked? Do you wish you were together? Like, this is what I would worry about.

[Gabby Windy]

I don't. We don't really ever think about each other naked because we're usually all naked.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, but not right in front of your face.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. Like, not in a sexual way, but we're, like, all naked all the time. I wish I could describe that any other way, but that is actually just the truth. Like, we're always all. At, like, mine and Toa's, and. And we'll just kind of like, day party all day. Go in tonight. And by, like, you know, two in the morning, everyone splits out. I don't know why, but you doing.

[Renee Rapp]

The splits on the floor.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Snail trailing.

[Gabby Windy]

Everyone's, like, showing whole. I'm like. And then we wake up the next day. We're like.

[Renee Rapp]

Can't look each other in the eye. Wait a minute.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. You're like, what's going on?

[Renee Rapp]

I made eye contact with your asshole last night.

[Gabby Windy]

No, we. We see. We see everything. So I don't even think that's. That's. There's. There's actually nothing left of the imagination. Because we've seen it all.

[Renee Rapp]

Right. And I actually think that's, like, you putting it like that. Which. I feel like you're wise beyond your years.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you.

[Renee Rapp]

Which I feel like you've heard before. That's a Capricorn thing.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes, yes.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

But I feel like women. It's like, we can. We're so used to a place with other women where we don't objectify each other.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes, but 100% yes.

[Renee Rapp]

But the second year around men, you're like, oh, my God, I'm so scared to be naked. He's gonna take it this way. But even if you are a lesbian, and technically, because I think so much of lesbians, attraction isn't just physical also.

[Gabby Windy]

No, absolutely not.

[Renee Rapp]

For me. Yes. It's still. It's like, it's emotional. The way you see the world, like.

[Gabby Windy]

Your experience, it goes in, like, levels too. Like, obviously, like, for, like, for my girlfriend, like, I had such a massive crush on her because.

[Renee Rapp]

How did you guys meet?

[Gabby Windy]

We met. We're on the same label and we have like, all the same friends. And one of my best friends, I wanted him to introduce me to her, like, months before we had ever met because I was like, she is so cool. And I'd known of her for forever because she's, like, cute and like on the Internet. And you guys, amazing couple. I genuinely. You're like, I couldn't agree more.

[Renee Rapp]

No, this is what I'm talking about. Fucking own it.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, literally couldn't agree more.

[Renee Rapp]

You guys look so good together.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, that is a hot couple. What you are doing for lesbians is, like, incredible.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you. That's very sweet. If I wasn't one of us, I would 100 wanna Eiffel Tower. Like, deaf, deaf, deaf, deaf. Like, I wish I could like, step outside of my body for a day.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And like, us, not as me, you know.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

I'd be like, literally so sick. But I like, I just always was like, oh, she's so amazing and she's so talented. She's a stupid good musician.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And so I really respected her and she was so pretty, which didn't hurt, of course. But I really wanted to be friends with her. So I told our friend to introduce me and he introduced me to her. And like, she was just immediately off rip, like, so intimidating. And I think to intimidate me is really hard.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

I like, I'm usually.

[Renee Rapp]

You seem unfit. I can go.

[Gabby Windy]

I can go toe to toe kind of with anybody. And it's fun. I love it. It's like a game. It's. It's enjoyable.

[Renee Rapp]

You're sick, dude. Yeah, I'm a sick fuck.

[Gabby Windy]

I think it's so fun. I'm like, wait, let's toy a little. But she was immediately like. I was like, oh, it's so nice to meet you. I've heard so much about you. And she was like, why Are you talking about me? And I was like, whoa. Oh, my God. Excuse me. My clit just jumped and I'm scared.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, that's crazy. That's an insane thing to say. But she's also British, and so her humor is super dry.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And then we became friends and she had started, like, beginning to put music out and we're on the same label, and I was like, she's like another, like, lesbian artist. Like, she's gotta come on tour with me, and we're friends at this point. And then I was.

[Renee Rapp]

There's so much sexual tension. I feel like on tour. Oh, my God.

[Gabby Windy]

I will. It was interesting because I wasn't even, like, aware of it because I was in a really bad relationship, so I was very depressed.

[Renee Rapp]

With a man or woman?

[Gabby Windy]

With a person.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

A. Yeah, yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Hey, come on. Hey.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, hard to say.

[Gabby Windy]

Well, yes, but yeah. With a person. And I was.

[Renee Rapp]

Is that. Cause you don't want to say or they, like.

[Gabby Windy]

They don't identify an enby.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

Enby.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

A nobody.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

No, well.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby Windy]

Well, you know what?

[Renee Rapp]

Non binary stuff. You might be on to something, bitch. Nah, you know what? Nobody was right, bitch. Nobody was right. No, stop. I apologize. Everybody knows my audience. I've never hurt.

[Gabby Windy]

No, no, no, no. That. This person.

[Renee Rapp]

To this person.

[Gabby Windy]

That was amazing. I have to tell you.

[Renee Rapp]

I. Cool, I hear you. Come on. You're like, wait.

[Gabby Windy]

Love you.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Stop. Yeah, stop, everybody. Yeah, no, a hundred percent. You actually did what you needed to do. Okay. And you did nothing wrong.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Thank God.

[Gabby Windy]

No, that was perfect. Both are correct. So I was really depressed and I. We were just like, partying a lot on tour, and I had gotten out of this relationship and get out of a relationship, and all of a sudden, like, the, like, floodgates open and you're like, wait, I have these, like, amazing people in front of me and this life that I was, like, kept from, like, physically kept from seeing my friends.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And now I'm, like, seeing my friends and I'm like, oh, I can, like, lean on people.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And so I pretty much immediately, like, fell in love with Toa. And I was so not expecting to, because I was like, oh, thank God. I'm, like, in a place where I can, like, look after myself finally. Like, I can go and see my friends. I have my free will back. This is awesome, right? I can, like, outfits.

[Renee Rapp]

What happened to that? Oh, my God. So they were really controlling.

[Gabby Windy]

I was. I was definitely DB I was definitely down Bad.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, definitely down bad. And I just, like, I, like, fully fell in love with her. And I was so afraid because I was like, damn. Like, I know I didn't just get out of a relationship and now I'm about to, like, go into another one.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

But I knew I was like, oh, I'm actually, like, going to take the risk on, like, some freedom in my life because I really fuck with her.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

So and is, like, the best decision.

[Gabby Windy]

I mean, it was the greatest decision ever.

[Renee Rapp]

How long have you guys been together?

[Gabby Windy]

Like, a year and a half. Almost two years, I guess.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

That's sweet. That's, like, the best time, I feel like. I mean, yeah, Robbie and I have only been together for, like, a little over two years, but I feel like it just keeps getting better. I know, like, you say, like, people say that, but, like, you don't believe it.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, but.

[Renee Rapp]

But then you get to know him better and better and better. How is, like, working together?

[Gabby Windy]

It's so fun. Like, genuinely. It's so fun. I had so many people when I was, like, making my album, be like, you're gonna, like, work with your fucking girlfriend? Like, that's so crazy. I could never do that. And I was like, yeah, but, like, my girlfriend's my best friend, and she's a fucking amazing musician with, like, incredible taste. So, like, I kind of, like, need her. Like, she's my bitch is a taste maker. Like, I want her around.

[Renee Rapp]

Right. Like, you're good. You complimen compliment each other in business, which is ideal.

[Gabby Windy]

It's 100% ideal. Also, we had worked together when we were friends, so, like, to me, I was like, well, this is nothing new, you know?

[Renee Rapp]

Right. And I love how complimentary you are of her because I think that's so important. That's how I am with Robbie, too. I'm like, she's genuinely the smartest, funniest, most talented person I've ever met. And being around someone like that and being able to appreciate it, like, I.

[Gabby Windy]

Feel like, only makes you better and it's inspiring.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

It's, like, so inspiring. I, like, feel so, like, like, creatively and, like, romantically fulfilled. Oh.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, my God. Are you guys, like, end game?

[Gabby Windy]

I better be, or else I'll kill her. I literally. I slit her throat. I slit her throat.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. And frame her for murder.

[Gabby Windy]

100%. She throat. Yeah. No, we better be.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, this one is for you. No. Yeah. I I with her. I with her.

[Renee Rapp]

Do you guys live together? You do? Oh, my God. Stop. For how long?

[Gabby Windy]

Not very long. Not very long. Yeah. I was like. I was also. I was like. I think we both were, like, tried to be pretty thoughtful about. Yeah. The time we spent together, the things we did. Like, how when we wanted to, like, start spending more time together, living together or not, and, like, like, telling people. And, like, we've tried to be, like, really thoughtful about it, I think, because I actually care about her so much.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And she cares about me a lot, I should hope. And I don't know, we wanted to, really. But just be careful. Like, I didn't want to fuck anything up. I didn't want to, like, move too fast. I didn't want to do any of that stuff.

[Renee Rapp]

It is a thing, like, you have to be ready. Like, both of you have to be in a place where it's hard. Like, Robbie's the first person I ever lived with. And it was harder than I thought to, like, merge lives because you feel like you lose a lot of your independence, which, like, I had a problem with. But I had to be at a place, like, in my life to where I wanted to face it.

[Gabby Windy]

Dude, that's. That's always been my thing, too, is like, I'm. I'm always, always. So I feel like in every relationship I've been in, the other person is always like, I really want to spend more time with you. And I'm like, you don't think we've done enough?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, you want to spend more time together.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

And like, we just. We sake. I'm like, well, what. What am I gonna do? Because I love my alone time and I love my down time and I love to go play with my friends by myself.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And I love to go. I love living my, like, own life. And I think, like, I've had so many relationships compromised or relationships that have compromised my own, like, individuality.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

That I'm, like, so steadfast about it now. But then when you get into a relationship with someone you really want to be with, you're like, oh, wait, I actually do want to spend more time with you.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, totally. In with the right person. Like, they're not going to compromise your individuality, you know? And you won't feel like you have to. It's like, okay, we can appreciate each other in each other's spaces together. Because I agree. I need my own life. Right.

[Gabby Windy]

Gotta have it. Oh, my God. That's the biggest. That's my, like, biggest thing. And some people don't feel this way, but, like, I, as your Partner. I cannot be your whole wide world, Toad.

[Renee Rapp]

It's too much pressure, bro.

[Gabby Windy]

It's so much pressure.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And like, I get it. I get the appeal. Truly.

[Renee Rapp]

Totally. Hello.

[Gabby Windy]

Totally understand, but absolutely the not. I cannot be your entire existence.

[Renee Rapp]

No, no. It's terrifying.

[Gabby Windy]

No.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

You need your own friends. You need your own life. You need your own.

[Renee Rapp]

Because what are you gonna bring to the table then if. If I'm the only one? Like, how do you form your own opinions and your own experience? What are we going to talk about?

[Gabby Windy]

A morsel or a crumb?

[Unknown]

That's it.

[Gabby Windy]

It's like give a mouse a cookie.

[Renee Rapp]

I love that saying, give a mouse a cookie.

[Gabby Windy]

I. Oh God. Yeah. It just. That becomes unfun really fast.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, really fast.

[Renee Rapp]

Totally. Let me check. I feel like we've been okay.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

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[Gabby Windy]

If you would like.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, obviously.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

It's called Bite, which, speaking of, I'm going to tell you your own name of your album. Speaking of. Give him as a cookie. A great saying. So is Bite me. You're bringing Bite me back.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you.

[Renee Rapp]

Well deserved.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you. I genuinely. I love it.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I love it. I've always loved it. It was something my dad always said growing up, which I was like, oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

My parents said it.

[Gabby Windy]

So sassy.

[Unknown]

Yes. Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, that's so like flamboyant of you. Like anytime you really like, bite me. I was like, oh, my God. Okay. Gay. Like, what are you doing?

[Renee Rapp]

I love it. I love it.

[Gabby Windy]

But yeah, I like, I, I just always had. Loved it. It's just such a little way of saying get fucked.

[Unknown]

Yes. Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

And it goes with everything.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

And like, you do have a bite. I feel like to what? It's like everything is kind of like a little bit of a you, which I love.

[Gabby Windy]

Thanks.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

I feel like you're so good like in your music about articulating like. Like that. You're like, okay, I'm not going to abide.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

No to what? Like, you're not abiding.

[Gabby Windy]

No. Can't. Can't abide.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Can't abide. Couldn't. Couldn't actually have never been able to. It's not in my DNA.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

No, I don't.

[Renee Rapp]

Got to do your own thing and you're going to let people know.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. Yeah. I'm not really. I don't do well with like authority or being told what to do.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

At all, actually.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

I never have.

[Renee Rapp]

Really? Like, even as a student.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. No, can't.

[Renee Rapp]

Wow, that's amazing. I wish I had the audacity. I'm terrified of authority.

[Gabby Windy]

I. It just is. I don't know. There's, like. There's a way to do it. I think that's, like. You still, like, respect people.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

But you also, like, don't, like, allow yourself to get, like, stepped on. Like, I think I just got stepped on one too many times. I was like, no, y' all are not getting away with the shit again.

[Renee Rapp]

No. Because it's so important in the industry, too. Because you don't know who has your back.

[Gabby Windy]

No. And nobody does, by the way.

[Renee Rapp]

Exactly. Right. You're like. Actually, they don't. They just. I'm a piggy bank. Oink.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally, you know, so they're going to, like, exploit my ass.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

Until I say no 100%.

[Gabby Windy]

And then even sometimes when you say no, they're like, wait, but do it. You're like, wait, I'm. Hello. Right? Like, did you not just hear me?

[Renee Rapp]

And it makes you feel crazy. Yes. So I'm always, like, worried about being a bitch, but then it's like, well, okay, you push me to this point, and maybe I can be a bitch sometimes.

[Gabby Windy]

I mean, odds are you're gonna be labeled a bitch if you tell somebody to fuck off or not.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, you just will be labeled a bitch no matter what. I. Frankly, I love being labeled a bitch. I'm so sorry to say. I love being labeled a bitch because I just don't feel like. I don't feel like it's bad. A. And I also feel like it leaves less room for people to. With you. Yeah. I feel like I don't even get approached with things anymore because I. I don't. People know what I would compromise and what I wouldn't.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

You know, like, you're like, no matter what, you'll get labeled a. Everybody, every fucking girl, or might as well do it.

[Renee Rapp]

You're gonna be able to talk about.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

And like, as a woman in the industry and making your own.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

It's like the Martha Stewart. Stewart or the Martha Stewardess of It.

[Gabby Windy]

All Real, you know, like, her going to jail.

[Renee Rapp]

That. And. No, but, like, she was like. Which I don't think she was great. She probably wasn't great to her employees. But, like, men of that time, like, you know, people were like, oh, she was a terrible business person. She was like. She treated everyone awful. But, like, a woman of that level like, but men don't get the same, like, identity as women do, you know, and who knows? Yeah, there's probably a couple instances. But also, she needs to, like, get done.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

You know, you have to, like, be assertive if you're going to work for her.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. I think that, like, you're. You're, like, defined of. I think you're, like, bitchiness is defined by, like, how you treat other women too. Yeah, I've, like, I've had people who I think would, like, be like, oh, no, I get labeled a bitch. And I'm like, yeah, that's because you're a bitch. Like, you're actually a. You're not like, like a fundamental, like, stand on your, like, cool. You're like a. That I don't like.

[Renee Rapp]

Right, right.

[Gabby Windy]

You're like a. Sorry.

[Renee Rapp]

It's like in your core. That's actually your character. I can be a bitch in work.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

100.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I'll be a. If you make me.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

If you make me one. I will happily role play that for you since you want it so goddamn bad.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Then we're both. I'm gonna like it.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes, exactly.

[Renee Rapp]

Exactly. And then you get yours. Yes. Like, you know, it all comes to fruition. Yes. No, but I know this is what I'm saying. Like, you're so. Is it because you've been in the industry since you're 14? Like, you have. I guess it comes with experience, but you, you have so much wisdom.

[Gabby Windy]

Thanks, man.

[Renee Rapp]

What are your other. What's your other rising and moon?

[Gabby Windy]

I'm a Gemini rising and a Pisces moon.

[Unknown]

Oh, whoa.

[Renee Rapp]

What's your rising and moon? My rising is Aries, and my moon is a Leo.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh. Oh, that tracks so hard.

[Renee Rapp]

Really?

[Gabby Windy]

That tracks so hard.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

I feel like I identify with my moon. Moon, but not so much my rising.

[Gabby Windy]

I don't know. I feel like your rising comes through in a really good way. I, like, like, so many of my, like, closest people in my life are Aries.

[Renee Rapp]

Really?

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

My girlfriend's an Aries.

[Renee Rapp]

I don't know what Aries are. Like.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

I can't. Like, I couldn't tell you. Maybe that's why I can't identify it. Like Capricorns. I feel like, you know Capricorns, you.

[Gabby Windy]

Know, you can spot us a mile away.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes. It's this. It's. It's the literally cross.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Me all the time.

[Gabby Windy]

It's like. Wait, try it.

[Unknown]

Yes. Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Try it.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Aries are like Aries. Are, like, quiet feisty. Oh, quiet feisty. Which I really, really like and respect because I feel like I'm pretty loud feisty. And there's something very, like, subdued and sexy about, like, a quiet, feisty Aries.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Wow. That means a lot.

[Gabby Windy]

No, genuinely, it's. It's a good. It's a good quality.

[Renee Rapp]

Kind of like an attitude problem, bro.

[Gabby Windy]

Y' all are scary. Y' all are scary.

[Renee Rapp]

No. If looks could kill.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God. I've never been. I've never been faced with so much drama in my life. Like, the level of drama, really.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes, but not like, with your friends, with my friend.

[Gabby Windy]

With anyone in my life who's an ar. Like, and not like, drama of, like, fighting drama. Like.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, the.

[Gabby Windy]

The absolute world will end if we are not there within three minutes. You know what I mean?

[Renee Rapp]

Like, the world is actually punctual.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. And like, the. The. There's just. Everything is very high stakes and everything is like, oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

Absolutely.

[Gabby Windy]

A hundred percent.

[Renee Rapp]

Wait.

[Gabby Windy]

Die. Kill me. Slay me. Slain me.

[Renee Rapp]

Catastrophizing.

[Unknown]

Yes. Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

That's how I am for sure. I thought it was a Capricorn thing. I think we do. Everything is a big deal.

[Gabby Windy]

Kind of like double.

[Renee Rapp]

You're double. Double penetrated. Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

You're kind of getting dp. Yeah. You're kind of getting deeper.

[Renee Rapp]

No, it's awful for like 15 minutes. And then I'm like, who was that girl?

[Gabby Windy]

That's how I feel.

[Renee Rapp]

I don't know where that's how I.

[Gabby Windy]

Feel with my moon having a Pisces moon.

[Renee Rapp]

Because I'm like, so I just know they're emotional. Are you sad? Same, same. I mean, I'm. I'm depressed.

[Gabby Windy]

I feel like people don't think that I'm sad.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

And then I'm like, hang on. I'm literally so sad.

[Renee Rapp]

Cry.

[Unknown]

No.

[Gabby Windy]

And I will.

[Renee Rapp]

And I will.

[Gabby Windy]

And I have, like. I've cried. Cried twice today.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm gonna go home later.

[Gabby Windy]

Cry later.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, my God, stop.

[Gabby Windy]

No, I'm like, I'm a sad person.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

No, same. But also, like, I think it's good for creativity. My psychiatrist was like, take your meds because it's not going to affect your work. Like you think it will. I'm like, what will I have to lament about?

[Gabby Windy]

Of course.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, I want to be a depressed. Not really.

[Gabby Windy]

No. But I get it. There's some creativity.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

It's torturous.

[Gabby Windy]

Well, because I. I don't know, something in terms of, like, your creativity. Like, you do. You. You. You don't want to, like, numb yourself to your emotions so much. You just want to be able to, like, maybe handle them better.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Or, like, regulate them better. But I like, the whole, like, numbing of everything, that didn't work for me. I stopped taking all that.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I just, like, cold. Cold turkey. Did I stop taking everything?

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, because you can get, like, the anhedonia.

[Gabby Windy]

What is that?

[Renee Rapp]

That's a common side effect of, like, the meds, where you're just numb. You don't feel anything good or bad. I literally kind of there.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, this is Virginia Woolf.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes. Now you know Virginia will fall.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, wait, what?

[Renee Rapp]

When you.

[Gabby Windy]

When you, like, don't feel anything.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. I mean, I was, like, kind of there. Jesus Christ. And that's, like, so unfun.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. No, it's awful. I'd rather feel sometimes it's like I actually don't mind being sad.

[Gabby Windy]

Like.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. If I'm sad and, like, have a. Like, a glass of wine and some really sad music in the back and just, like, cry in the kitchen. It's so cathartic. That is femininity to me.

[Gabby Windy]

You know what my favorite sad music this is?

[Renee Rapp]

What?

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, I'm getting, like, prickly just thinking about it. I'm wet. Loki. You go downstairs alone in the house.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Nibble of inedible.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Watch svu.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Lay there.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Don't do right. Disassociate.

[Gabby Windy]

Disassociate.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

You're in it. What's the crime?

[Gabby Windy]

Nothing's going right. There's a. There's a. I'm sorry. There's a rape case on tv, but they're gonna solve it.

[Renee Rapp]

It's always.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, they're gonna solve it.

[Renee Rapp]

He's gonna be.

[Gabby Windy]

He will be convicted 25 to life, and the judge is absolutely thrilled to do it.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

That is the kind of sadness that I want. I'm. I'm craving this for later. Now I'm thinking about it, and I'm getting freaked out. I'm so excited.

[Unknown]

Yes. Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

Because it makes you feel something. I'm like, I don't care. This is good. If it's. Even if it's cringe. Like, people are like, I can't watch, but it's making you feel something. Oh, so that is art.

[Gabby Windy]

I'm like. I'm like, something is. Is. Is being solved.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Right now also, like, just, like, watching something for, like, 30 minutes go from, like, absolute to, like, solved. Buttoned up and done.

[Renee Rapp]

Incredible.

[Gabby Windy]

That's what I wish my life Was, I wish my life would be solved, buttoned up and done.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

And it's good storytelling if you can get anything done in 30 minutes. I watch movies 90 minutes or less. I don't have the attention span.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

I like TV shows. Like, 25 minutes.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, please.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, 30 minutes is pushing it. But if there's a crime involved, involved, I'm in. Like, let's wrap it up.

[Gabby Windy]

I'm in. And I don't even. I don't even need to know this psychiatry or the damning evidence that would come with someone hearing that. I like to watch SVU every single day. I don't even need to know. No.

[Renee Rapp]

I don't know if it's popular. I feel like I need to get into svu.

[Gabby Windy]

Tap in.

[Renee Rapp]

How did you get into it?

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God, I love it so much. My girlfriend was like, we're gonna watch an episode of SVU one day when I was really sad. Oh, yeah. And I. I was like, I'm not watching that. Like, isn't that like cable tv? Like, what's going on?

[Renee Rapp]

Literally cable. Like, sorry, I'm not.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, what are you talking about? I was like, you old bat. What are you saying?

[Renee Rapp]

Right? It's before your time.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I was like, yeah, sorry that you're literally elderly.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm like, right, okay, grandma.

[Gabby Windy]

I'm like, cougar, what are you doing?

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Anhedonia.

[Gabby Windy]

Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

Virginia.

[Gabby Windy]

Virginia. And yeah, I'm also always doing that until is one year older than me. And I'm like, oh, my God, you fucking hag. Like, you're dating such a younger woman, you weirdo. I love. I'm like, my elder. No. But yeah, we watched an episode of svu and I was kind of livid because we just happened upon an episode that didn't get solved, actually. Like, it was open ended.

[Renee Rapp]

No, no, no, no. Please don't do that to me.

[Gabby Windy]

I was terrible upset.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I was so upset.

[Renee Rapp]

Even if it's a bad ending, put a button on it.

[Gabby Windy]

Give me something. Yeah, I'm on my hands and knees and I'm begging. I'm literally scissoring and begging and begging. And there was just like, no end. And I was so pissed. I was like, well, we have to watch another.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. That's because she was like, no, honey.

[Gabby Windy]

They solve it sometimes. And I was like, sure, right, okay, then prove it. Prove it to me.

[Renee Rapp]

What are the writers doing? They just get tired at the end. They're like, I'm so exhausted.

[Gabby Windy]

They're like, I've had it with this one.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

I. Like, she might have been assaulted in an art gallery, but who gives a damn at this point, right?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

What's done is done.

[Gabby Windy]

I know. But no, now I'm, like, really deep in. I'm on season 16.

[Renee Rapp]

Jesus.

[Gabby Windy]

That's right. I started.

[Renee Rapp]

How many episodes per season?

[Gabby Windy]

There's a good amount, right?

[Renee Rapp]

There's like 20 to 20. It's like real Housewives. Like, the old season has, like, 20 episodes per season, and that's my shit. This could take years. Same.

[Gabby Windy]

That's.

[Renee Rapp]

What's your favorite franchise?

[Gabby Windy]

My favorite franchise was Always and Forever Will be Atlanta.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm starting on at. On Atlanta.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God. You're in for a treat. She's everything. She's people's princess.

[Renee Rapp]

She's the best housewife ever of all time. I heard she has a fall from grace, though. I think it. Like, there's always something, right? They really dramatized it because I'm like, I'm sorry, I can't. Which I have no idea what I'm talking about, so you guys should figure it out.

[Gabby Windy]

I understand.

[Renee Rapp]

They have it. People still love her.

[Gabby Windy]

I ride for her.

[Renee Rapp]

She's the funniest housewife to ever be on.

[Gabby Windy]

She's amazing.

[Renee Rapp]

Bravo. She's amazing.

[Gabby Windy]

She's amazing.

[Renee Rapp]

I've watched her clips on Glee. She's an amazing actor. She can do no wrong. She's so perfect.

[Gabby Windy]

There's, like. There's truly no one more iconic to me. Like, she carried that whole franchise for so many years.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

For so many years. Somebody recently was like, I can't watch that show. Like, I don't want to get on there and see, like, women, like, belittling and being mean to each other. And I was like, first of all, that was such, like, a boring take because, like, God forbid, the girls fight a little bit, right? God forbid.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Like, you. You just want women to be, like, happy and in the kitchen.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. This is what friendship is. This is what friendship is. Break away, come back together, then you're stronger than ever.

[Gabby Windy]

It's Caddy.

[Renee Rapp]

These are real friends.

[Gabby Windy]

Someone's man cheats on them, and then they.

[Renee Rapp]

Everybody, these men have got to go.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God. All the men are so ugly, too. All the men so fucking ugly. Everybody's husband. Oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

And the women are, like, gorgeous.

[Gabby Windy]

The women are so bad. And then the men are fucking hideous. Yeah, but that's pretty much it all the time. Literally. The Girls are on 10, and the men are, like, from fucking hell.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally. Yeah. I'm like if you're straight, just be a lesbian. Like, I don't know, it's just like that.

[Gabby Windy]

Please.

[Renee Rapp]

You know, if you want a rap man, just be a lesbian. Masculine lesbians are hotter.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh my God.

[Renee Rapp]

And they're about the same size.

[Gabby Windy]

Please. And they're also more fun.

[Renee Rapp]

And they don't smell bad, right?

[Gabby Windy]

They don't smell.

[Renee Rapp]

There's no odor. There's no stench. There's self awareness.

[Gabby Windy]

No, no. At least few and far between.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, right.

[Gabby Windy]

Like they might be a bit manipulative on the occasion.

[Renee Rapp]

No, totally.

[Unknown]

But.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, but at least they're cool and thoughtful about it. The men just do dumb shit because they.

[Renee Rapp]

And their manipulation is so bad. Like, if you're going to manipulate me, at least do it good.

[Gabby Windy]

Be sexy about it.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, I can see right through this. You're not doing anything. You're not getting me.

[Gabby Windy]

No, it's uninteresting. Interesting. Like be like. Be sneaky and like a little sleazy about it. Don't just be like, yeah, like, my fault, shorty. That's just like. What? That's disgusting.

[Renee Rapp]

No, because that's the thing is they admit it. Like, I've been in relationships where I'm like, you're manipulating me. And they're like, yeah, I know I am. And I'm like, are you okay?

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. And the answer's not like, right?

[Renee Rapp]

No, they never. Yes, they're not.

[Gabby Windy]

Well, yeah, they're not.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, no, it's terrible.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

There's nothing worse in the morning than waking up bleary eyed, one eye open, earplugs still in your nose and intuition is carrying you to the coffee machine and you're out of coffee. I always blame Robbie, but here comes thrive. And thrive is having thrive well in steps Thrive market. And they're having a thrive markets back to school sale so you can stock up on your coffee.

[Gabby Windy]

And.

[Renee Rapp]

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[Gabby Windy]

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[Gabby Windy]

Deal. Let's.

[Renee Rapp]

We're really. Okay, I have one last question.

[Gabby Windy]

Go, sister.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Can we talk about. Can we talk about Wicked? Honestly, love, I don't know if I can get down with the green. I heard in the original in the Broadway show that she's not green. Wait, what? Who told you that? Robbie did. Is she green? Is she painted green? Robbie's lying to you. She's so green. Stop, wait.

[Gabby Windy]

Honey, she's.

[Renee Rapp]

She got painted every show.

[Gabby Windy]

Every single show.

[Renee Rapp]

She's like an olive.

[Gabby Windy]

Sweetie.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes. No.

[Gabby Windy]

I swear to God, she's green as hell. And.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, my God. So she's saying the original. Maybe the original original, but I'm like the Kristin Chenoway. Wait, honey, I've been lied to. Robbie's lying to you, okay? All the wicked freaks are gonna come for me.

[Gabby Windy]

She's been green for forever.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, my God. Okay, well, then maybe I have a problem with. Maybe I have a problem with that altogether.

[Gabby Windy]

Wait.

[Renee Rapp]

I liked. I liked the idea of her not always being green.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, sure.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay, so then. So then this could really be something. But if she was always green, if that was the way she was pictured from Incepted Inception.

[Gabby Windy]

Inception, then I don't know.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay, but I have one more issue. Wait, what's your.

[Gabby Windy]

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Your issue is with her not always being green or just wicked in general? No. Is it the ableism that gets you green? Is it the ableism that gets you.

[Renee Rapp]

Don't call me an ableist. No, please. I can't take that. And the NB.

[Gabby Windy]

No.

[Renee Rapp]

1 episode. I will not make it out alive.

[Gabby Windy]

Hang on. God damn it. Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

No. No. For the record, I love. I love the color green. It's a little distracting. Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, I need. I need to be rooted in some. Besides all the magic and the flying and this. Give me some kind of reality that I definitely understand.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, that I understand.

[Renee Rapp]

This is an improv.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, I do. I can't. I can't suspend my disbelief. If you paid me a million dollars.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I can't do it.

[Renee Rapp]

No. It's a capricorn.

[Gabby Windy]

I can't.

[Renee Rapp]

10 toes down. We're grounded. All of the time.

[Gabby Windy]

I'm. Whenever I look like, have you ever. Have you ever ridden Soarin at Disney?

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

All right.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. That I fuck with, though.

[Gabby Windy]

You're kidding. I. Okay, okay. Okay. I fuck with it.

[Renee Rapp]

The smells.

[Gabby Windy]

I love the smells.

[Renee Rapp]

Bring me the oranges and the wind.

[Gabby Windy]

Bring me the oranges and the wind.

[Renee Rapp]

A little bit of mist.

[Gabby Windy]

Love it. But I'm constantly, like, looking to the side and I'm, like, looking at the lift, seeing it. I'm out. Like, I'm that way with everything. I'm that way with Like, I'm that way with theater. I'm such a bad theater goer.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, really? You're bad at going to.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God, yes. So bad. Because I'm like, what's the time step doing? I'm sitting in a chair. What's the time step?

[Renee Rapp]

You know too much.

[Gabby Windy]

I know too much? Yeah, I know too much.

[Renee Rapp]

I can see that.

[Gabby Windy]

But did you have a problem because Wicked wasn't always green?

[Renee Rapp]

Well, I think it. I think that would have helped my case. It sounded like.

[Gabby Windy]

I see you're not loving the green because you're like, where's the reality?

[Renee Rapp]

Yes, it's a little bit of a distraction. Then when I was falsely told she wasn't always green, I'm like, see, it's a detour from the original. Original. So is confirmation bias. I've been lied to once again. Robbie's known to make up shit. But I do have one more qualm. The love triangle. Why is Elphaba coming for Ari's man? Nobody.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Like, we're not talking about this if you're such good friends. Why? I mean, I don't doubt we'll see if it redeems itself in Wicked, too, or how they're gonna narrate this, how they're gonna navigate.

[Gabby Windy]

Sure.

[Renee Rapp]

But it's like, it's not giving girls girl's girl. And we believe this.

[Gabby Windy]

I so don't slain me.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

I haven't seen the movie. Oh, stop.

[Renee Rapp]

I say. I was like, she's for sure gonna go on, like, in this with me. You're gonna go in the red.

[Gabby Windy]

I've seen the show. I saw Wicked.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay. Do they have the love triangle in the show?

[Gabby Windy]

Yes. Consistent.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

Consistent.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

And it is unfortunate. It is unfortunate.

[Renee Rapp]

Right? I understand they're meant to be together, but it's like, she's not forthcoming about it. Like, I don't know really even care.

[Gabby Windy]

That they're meant to be together. I just kind of am. Like, you girls are so into each other. Why don't you just fuck instead? Literally, I like you. This is clear. Like, I was like, listen, ladies. Yeah, I've been there.

[Renee Rapp]

Listen, ladies, you're not.

[Gabby Windy]

You're not fooling me.

[Renee Rapp]

This isn't about the Prince.

[Gabby Windy]

You're not fooling me. This is not about Jonathan Bailey, fine as he may be. Fine as he may be.

[Renee Rapp]

But, like, watching a man dance, I don't know. And, like, really sing with their full chest, I don't need that ever. And, like, in jazz shoes, I don't need that ever. I Don't know. Like, I know I hear Jonathan Bailey's name get thrown around a lot, but I'm like, this is. This is. It's giving me the ick.

[Gabby Windy]

It's a lot of. It just reminds me of being in theater. And there's like a, you know, like a very, like, cigarette ish. Like, white boy theater tenor who, like, for some reason, everyone is fawning over, but he's, like, ugly and a bad person.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

You know.

[Renee Rapp]

Right.

[Gabby Windy]

And he's wearing a jazz shoe. No structure.

[Renee Rapp]

Literally.

[Gabby Windy]

I'd sooner kill myself.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

I'd sooner wear your toes, bro. And your mini heel.

[Gabby Windy]

Oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

Get sucked.

[Gabby Windy]

And it's like foam. It's literally fog. Yes. No, I like it drag or nothing.

[Renee Rapp]

Right. This is not attractive to me.

[Gabby Windy]

No, it just. That just is going to get me every time. And I've fallen victim to those tenors before, and believe you me, I will not let it happen again.

[Renee Rapp]

No, but it's a pipeline, obviously. It's like. This makes sense. It is like, they're like, they're very close to being women, but they pretend that they're not. Yes, of course. Of course.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, I. I understand. The. The trouble with the love triangle. I just don't buy it.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah, I just don't buy it.

[Renee Rapp]

And. And I'll take that.

[Gabby Windy]

I don't buy it. I'm like, why do you guys. I'm like, you don't even want to be with him. There's no way.

[Renee Rapp]

Right?

[Gabby Windy]

There's no way. You're much more invested in, like, hurting the other person. You clearly care about the woman more.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, exactly. Like they're best friends. Like, I'm all in on their friendship.

[Gabby Windy]

Of course. Like, honey, this is my lived experience. Right. Please.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, leave the guy. Like, a guy's never worth it. He's not going to text you back. That guy especially. No, no, he's just not doing it.

[Gabby Windy]

He's also just, like. He just doesn't have the good songs. I'll say it. Dancing through life is fine.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

Right. But it's not. It's not. No one mourns the wicked. It's. No. No one mourns the wicked. Please. I'm not that girl. I don't want to hear him sing any part of it.

[Renee Rapp]

No, I don't. Do I know that song yet?

[Gabby Windy]

Really good.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh, no, you do, because it's in part two. See, I don't. The only one I know is Loathing and I Saw TikTok.

[Gabby Windy]

Loathing is amazing.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah. But I Thought this guy invented it. I. He wrote it because he was singing just this random dude on Tick Tock. I was like, this is so funny. I see like loathing. And then, and then I discovered Wicked. I know, but you know even less, it seems. No, but you're well educated.

[Gabby Windy]

I know the show because I saw the show a couple years ago because I was like, what's all the hubbub? Totally. What's going on?

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Gabby Windy]

Love it. Obsessed with it.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay, well, you have to watch the movie and report back. What the.

[Gabby Windy]

I know. I. I do a really like piss poor job of keeping up to date with movies. Yeah, I like do really bad about that. And tv. I'm like a really sorry excuse for someone who acts like I am so, so shit. Keeping up. I'm just watching svu.

[Renee Rapp]

You got to get through SVU before you have any head space for anything else.

[Gabby Windy]

Exactly. I can't watch Wicked. I'm watching Marishka Haritay save the state of New York single handedly.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

I'm watching Mariska Hargitay avoid being a lesbian somehow. She's not gay on the show, by the way.

[Renee Rapp]

No. Is she to going gay in real life?

[Gabby Windy]

No.

[Renee Rapp]

Okay, well, she is.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. But she should be right for sure on the show. I was like, come on, the way this woman's dressed, like it's like a right, like it's the sky blue.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windy]

For.

[Renee Rapp]

Does she have love interests on the show or is she a occasional man? Oh, okay. Cover up. It's a beard.

[Gabby Windy]

Yeah. There's the occasional man. And they're never as cute as she is.

[Renee Rapp]

Never. Never.

[Gabby Windy]

But that's pretty consistent as well.

[Renee Rapp]

Yeah, well. Oh my God. Okay, tell us, tell us about your album when it comes out, what you're doing, going on tour.

[Gabby Windy]

My album comes out on August 1st is what I keep hearing. And I keep being told that I'm going on tour in September and that's like kind of it.

[Renee Rapp]

That's it. Okay.

[Gabby Windy]

No, that's huge.

[Renee Rapp]

I'm so excited. I want to see you on tour. Oh, you have to come.

[Gabby Windy]

Come to one of the. Or the LA show.

[Renee Rapp]

Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, no, I know it's in October.

[Gabby Windy]

Yes.

[Renee Rapp]

Because every time I go to Spotify, it's like Kia Forum. Yeah, I'm gonna be there.

[Gabby Windy]

Wait, come. Okay, we'll. We'll start. You come with Bobby.

[Renee Rapp]

Oh my God. Yeah, we love concerts, dude.

[Gabby Windy]

Come concert goers.

[Renee Rapp]

Who doesn't?

[Gabby Windy]

I mean, listen, I'm like, I'm becoming a concert go goer. So yeah, I'm trying.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, you're a musician.

[Gabby Windy]

I might as well.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Renee Rapp]

Might as well start now.

[Gabby Windy]

Kind of got to get locked into this.

[Renee Rapp]

Well, thank you so much. This was so fun.

[Gabby Windy]

Thanks, honey.

[Renee Rapp]

That's it.

[Gabby Windy]

Thank you. Oh, my God.

[Renee Rapp]

So fun.

[Gabby Windy]

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[Renee Rapp]

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