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Gabby
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Caller
Hello.
Gabby
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Robbie
Yeah, talking into my mic.
Gabby
Talking to it.
Robbie
You said you were coming down in a T shirt. Babe, you're all. You're all swanked out.
Gabby
I'm in a T shirt.
Robbie
Those glasses are excellent.
Gabby
Well, you don't. You don't like girls. You don't like.
Robbie
Those girls wear fake glasses.
Gabby
But when it's a part of the outfit.
Robbie
True. In this case, I like it.
Gabby
Okay. When it's a part. I'm not pretending to use these to read, but you know, I would.
Robbie
Yeah. These are obviously. I would say that there's like a 1% tint on these. Makes it okay.
Gabby
You guys, it's so hot in here.
Robbie
It's. Babe, this is. This is not. You can't tell.
Gabby
But where's. When we have both doors open. We're just recording before we go to Hawaii so we can put it out. This feels like Hawaii.
Robbie
Can you believe going to Hawaii?
Gabby
I can't. I'm so excited. And I got my neural stir.
Robbie
Wait, babe, should we be saying we're going to Hawaii? When this comes out, we'll be in Hawaii. That's fantastic.
Gabby
I know.
Robbie
Wait, so we'll be in Hawaii?
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
So should we not be saying all this?
Gabby
Why?
Robbie
What if something in Hawaii. Somebody comes?
Gabby
Babe, they're not going to make. Who cares? Please come. First of all. And second of all, nobody's going to make plans to go to. They don't know where we're going in Hawaii.
Robbie
Hawaii. Babe, please don't say anything.
Gabby
It's fine.
Robbie
No, we're supposed to relax.
Gabby
I know, but it's fine.
Robbie
We deserve this vacation. Do you think we deserve this vacation?
Gabby
Yes. I literally. I can't believe. I mean, actually, like, I feel you are such a good planner, but I feel like you need a swift kick in order to plan. Like, I was the one who's like, we're going to Mexico and I'm booking. I know, but you. No, but. No, no, it wasn't like a but. You took the bull by the horns in a good way and planned an amazing vacation for us.
Robbie
I gotta give a shout out to my little sister, Yehudis. Of course.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Who I think without her help, she's. She's taken on helping me administratively.
Gabby
Huh? Yeah, she's been amazing. I want to call. I want to ask her to call our hotel and see if they have a vibration plate.
Robbie
I have a vibration plate. It might not be the size you're looking for. Don't worry.
Interjector
Where
Gabby
we gotta charge our batter.
Robbie
How helpful has my little sister been?
Gabby
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Caller
Hello.
Gabby
I can't go in. I can't go in without finding something I absolutely need. I don't care how big or small makes me feel good. And Sephora is where you can find the newest, hottest drops you won't find anywhere else. And ain't that the truth. Say less. So shop the newest, hottest beauty only at Sephora. I have a new words and phrases list growing. Do you want to hear some of them?
Robbie
Okay. Lovey.
Gabby
KY Wrestling. That was just on Ladies of London.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
Like KY jelly. Yeah, let's see that there. One with the glasses. Me?
Robbie
Babe, those glasses. The bridge of those glasses is unbelievable. I've never seen a bridge so good.
Gabby
This is why I've been wanting to.
Robbie
What are. What brand is that?
Gabby
I don't even want to say.
Robbie
Oh, give it to me. Let me see.
Gabby
They're not. They're not. Oh, yes, they are. Oh, no, they're not.
Robbie
Let me see.
Gabby
They're. They're. Gentle Monster.
Robbie
Oh, cutie.
Gabby
I love Gentle Monster.
Robbie
She's my little gentleman.
Gabby
We're going to Hawaii.
Robbie
I'm so excited. See, I have the snorkels. I bought us. Yes.
Gabby
And then what did I buy?
Robbie
You bought us binoculars because you're on your bird watching kick.
Gabby
I bought us a binocular size each, but I think I'm gonna want yours.
Robbie
Oh, this is what happens, too. It's like she'll buy me something, but watch me open it and basically look.
Gabby
No, that's what you do.
Robbie
That's what you do to me.
Gabby
Look at her smile. That's what you do.
Robbie
Remember when the merch came and you were like, they're mine, they're mine. I'm like, I'm pretty sure they sent it for me.
Gabby
They fit me like a glove.
Robbie
No, but she.
Gabby
I also got bucket hats.
Robbie
The one was just a Goldilocks in the bucket.
Gabby
I know she's Goldilocks, but the one that I got her was. First of all, it was on Depop, so it's like. But it was. And I'm a good sorcerer. They say it's no be. Do you know where I'm going? What I'm about to say?
Robbie
Oh, do you know what? I might. I. I think I might know. I think I might know. I figured the reason you asked me to be on the pod this week was because you had some to say.
Gabby
No, no, I can't wait. I would never queen you.
Robbie
Wait, babe, is that my soda can?
Gabby
Oh, yeah. Cold as ice. It feels so good.
Robbie
It feels so good. I'm boiling hot, guys. Plus, she's got the lights.
Gabby
No, I don't want it. You know what a cocoen is? It's a woman cuckold. So I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to cuck you. Basically back you into a corner.
Robbie
Okay, wait, so a woman cuckold to somebody who sits on the couch and watches her husband sleep with other women?
Gabby
Yes. And it's spelled C, U, K, E, A, N. Fantastic.
Robbie
I don't know what that.
Gabby
Or there might be a Q, U. But I think I'm thinking of the.
Robbie
Wait, what's it called? A cucking. A cucking.
Gabby
Wait, let me look it up. Queen Cuckoon.
Robbie
I think Cocoen.
Gabby
Coqueen. Yeah.
Robbie
Do you think you're a cocoen? No.
Gabby
Do you?
Robbie
Do I think I'm a cocoen?
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
No.
Gabby
No. We're just not. Do you know any cocoens who would really be into that?
Robbie
That the husband sleeps with somebody else?
Gabby
I. I'm thinking like a lesbian relationship.
Robbie
Well, here's the thing. I would get in. I know a lesbian sleeping with a lesbian.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Well, with a bi person. With a married woman.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
And the husband. Right. Fine with it.
Gabby
Well, that's a cuckold.
Robbie
Yeah. I don't know if he watches, though.
Gabby
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
But. Okay. Okay. So the other day. Yeah, the other day.
Robbie
First of all, this is what I thought.
Gabby
I'm a good sorcerer. So I got.
Robbie
Fantastic.
Gabby
I got Robbie this Louis by supreme bucket hat. It's too small for her.
Robbie
We should give it to my sister. My other sister.
Gabby
We should. It would look so good on her. It would look so cute in that.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
Okay.
Robbie
We can give the blue one to Adam.
Gabby
I want the blue one.
Robbie
Oh, okay.
Gabby
The I girl.
Robbie
You said you were throwing on a tea and coming down, but look at her now.
Gabby
Babe, this is a tea. And I'm schl. I mean, you're.
Robbie
Shoot, you're.
Gabby
We should go over our Yiddish vocab too. Okay.
Interjector
Go ahead.
Robbie
What do you know?
Gabby
I know pish.
Robbie
Yeah. To pee.
Gabby
Schutz.
Robbie
Schm is really schitz. But we have our own language. It's turned into I'm schweiz shoes. And also a little bit tad languagey.
Gabby
Schloff.
Robbie
Schluffy to sleep. That's great.
Gabby
Make tracks.
Robbie
Make tracks is just on my mother saying. It's not Yiddish at all. It's just, you got to start moving. We gotta cross the street if it's yellow. Make tracks. Yeah, you know, like. Like, cars are coming. You got to make tracks. I think it comes from her growing up in Montreal. In the winter, you make tracks in the snow.
Gabby
Oh, wow.
Robbie
You know, you're walking fat. You're walking.
Gabby
A great saying. I think I tracks. I think I did put it in my book and I said, compliments of Robbie's mom.
Robbie
Thank you.
Caller
Yeah.
Robbie
To my mother as.
Gabby
I just love a good saying. Chaya. Has the best sayings too. Like, you guys just have always the best sayings.
Robbie
Yeah, my sister Kaya also has. My sister Kaya is just. Yeah. From another world.
Gabby
She's a white Smith.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
I'm gonna put this down.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
So the other day, luckily I had just had an edible, so I was feeling funny and we were. We had ordered sugar fish. Was it the day you came back?
Robbie
We. I did.
Gabby
Me and. Oh, excuse me. Okay, well, it was a we because we used my app.
Robbie
Yeah, because you don't know how to work.
Gabby
No, no, because you don't know how. Okay. But Robbie does. She said it was on her, so she venmoed me.
Robbie
Yeah. If I say something's on me and my app doesn't work, I'm still going to do it on me. I'm going to make sure.
Gabby
But you like to do this thing, which is. Which is fair. But she's like, babe, I forgot my card. Can I
Robbie
have. I really do not do that.
Gabby
No, but. No, but I'm saying you still pay for it.
Robbie
I understand, but how you can count on a matter of hands that I've had to do that.
Gabby
When have I had to do it?
Robbie
Babe, you don't pay. I pay for everything. Oh, okay. Babe, I don't pay for all of our going out.
Gabby
You do actually.
Robbie
Dinners and stuff. Okay. So on the few times I say let's pick up smoothies and I realize you made me go to Equinox or this or the gym and I didn't have it. I said, oh, I said I would get a smoothies. And then I'm so literal about it that when I get it, when we get the smoothies, I. And you had to pay or something because I. I didn't. I still. I Venmo you. Right?
Gabby
Yes. No, you can count on hands. Yes. Yes.
Robbie
I don't want to give people the wrong.
Gabby
I know she's. I can tell you're getting upset, but I'm just teasing you and you. Really? Well, because I was, you know, going through my receipts for some reason.
Robbie
Okay. I'm so curious where this is going.
Gabby
Last year, no, I didn't have. I didn't eat out at all myself because you. You buy all of our eating outs. Now, I had a lot of doordash, but you get. You always pick up because I doordash when you're gone. When I'm alone, I really need to start cooking again anyways. Okay, so we're back to the sugar fish. I had just had an edible. We are you Know, we've been in this place for like a year now, so we love it. So now we're now really getting settled in focusing more on design, like, as it comes, you know, to. So we have, we have kind of an entry space that it's a little hard to design, but we got these two really great leather chairs.
Robbie
Yeah, they're kind of a bogo.
Gabby
Because this one guy.
Robbie
Oh, yeah. We'll tell this story. This is a big one. This is why I'm so proud of you. Should I say while you're looking it up?
Gabby
Yes, because I want to see if I have the chair.
Robbie
What's the chair called? It's the. My friend Roxy said it's the chair that John Lennon is sitting on.
Gabby
Oh, wow.
Robbie
It's like a famous chair. It's like one of those chairs that you probably saw growing up and you're like, huh, maybe one day I have this chair.
Gabby
And they're so comfortable, so.
Robbie
Exactly. Yeah. It's incredible leather. It's. It's second hand, so the leather is really built.
Interjector
Yes.
Robbie
Anyway. And we live obviously in California, but there's a lot of secondhand mid century stuff available. Whatever. Whatever. But anyway, this price was really good. Okay. It was like $3,000.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Which is, which is crazy expensive. And keep in mind, whatever. For this thing. It's also like, it's. It'll make, you know, it's. It's. It's old and special and has a lot of history to it. And still, 3,000 is a great price for one for. For two, obviously. It's an amazing price for two. So we, we hit buy. We both decide. We thought about it for a while. We're gonna get the chairs. We want the chairs. We're gonna get the chairs. We. This house, we want to rent this for 10 years if possible. This is where we want to be. We want to rent this apartment if we can. And we're getting the chairs. We're going to really make like our entry. Yeah, we got the chairs. No, we get one chair.
Gabby
We get one. I know I'm.
Robbie
One chair comes next. I'm going, where's the other chair? Gab looks at it because she did
Gabby
this, this thing while I bought them. I bought them on Cherished or. I can't find the text, but.
Robbie
But anyway, I go, where's the chair? We have one chair. Looks great already. We're thrilled with it. The guy said, oh, the listing said two chairs, but it's actually 3,000 for one chair. And then he said, as if he was Doing her a favor.
Gabby
I know I wanted it versatile because it was so bad, but I'll send
Robbie
you the second chair.
Gabby
Just to keep my word.
Robbie
Just to keep my word. It's like the listings has two chairs.
Gabby
This is like to do. No, it's terrible. And he blamed it. He acted like it was my idea. He was like, oh, just to be. Or like his idea that I got both chairs. Oh, just to be a man of my word. Yes, yes. I'll ship you the other one. It's like, no, I bought both of them because you fucked up on the listing.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
So how is this now my fault?
Robbie
Pictures is two chairs. Pictures is two chairs. The listing says a pair of chairs.
Gabby
And because I double checked that there were two chairs because it did kind of seem cheap, I didn't know how, how much these went for. And I.
Robbie
Well, I saw the price. When she showed, showed me, I said, yeah, if they're authentic.
Gabby
Like now looking at furniture and stuff, you never know if they're selling the pair or one or what. So I made sure to check and it said a pair. And then I got his ass.
Robbie
Here is the moral of the story. Screenshot your listing. If you're splurging, you're on Grailed, even Depop. Okay. Now Depop is harder because they have less guarantee for stuff. But I think over a certain amount, if you're. If you have a real splurge. And I know this for Poshmark, if you spend over 300, I think on Poshmark, maybe it's 300 or 400, they do a guarantee.
Gabby
Oh, is that, is that Poshmark or Depop?
Robbie
That's Poshmark. I don't know about Depot.
Gabby
Oh, you always have to Depop more.
Robbie
Really?
Gabby
Well, I think they have better stuff.
Robbie
I think they have better stuff. And you know why I like Depop more? For some reason, it's. It's like more of the, it's more the people. You can trust it because there's better people on it. It's like people are on it. I feel like there's more companies on a cherish, on a grailed even.
Gabby
Yeah, well, it's hard to compare furniture.
Robbie
Real. Real. I think that Depop is literally us just selling each other's. Yeah, there's something like why would. But anyway, either way, screenshots are all we have now, literally. Right. So you just have to be screenshotting should you need the receipts.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Because even if this guy, he's making it seem like he's doing us the favor, that would have gone straight to Cherish.
Gabby
No, literally.
Robbie
Okay. He would have been answering to them, and he would have had no leg to stand on.
Gabby
No, I'm still trying to find his barking.
Robbie
He hates him so much. Okay, love. No, At a certain point, you have to give up trying to find. Take the screenshots and maybe put them in a folder. We're never doing that. But this is. This is.
Gabby
Well, I didn't even need a screenshot because he, like, whatever, saw that he had messed up. Anyways, back to sugar Fish. So we're doing.
Robbie
Let's say he didn't. You'd have to go to Gret. You'd have to go to Cherish.
Interjector
I know.
Gabby
I. Yeah. I have my receipt.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
Yeah. And it says two in the receipt, so.
Robbie
See?
Gabby
So there's nothing he could do. He's a. I'm his. I'm his cuck. I'm his Babe, you bring up this. I know, but for so many things
Robbie
now, I'm not sure.
Gabby
Well, it's a figure of speech. You can just use it.
Robbie
Oh, what did they say?
Gabby
I just use it when I have someone backed into a corner. Because I'm the one. I'm the onlooker of. Of those other guys.
Robbie
Who are the guys?
Gabby
Well, the guys in the corner are the ones that are.
Robbie
And you're the cuck.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
So who's in the chair scenario? Who's the guy in the corner?
Gabby
Him and Cherish.
Robbie
Okay. Gorgeous. Girly. No. Tell it.
Gabby
No, but it's like. Well, okay, whatever. We were kind of feeling funny, but.
Robbie
Well, you were feeling funny.
Gabby
No. Edible Robbie grew up with nine siblings, so we know. You know, there's some defense mechanisms in there. Anyways, we're trying to. We're trying to design these chairs. We have, like, high pedestal table that we had from our last place in the middle, like, between the.
Robbie
Had it. It's really nice.
Gabby
Yeah. So we don't really know, like, where it's going. Robbie wanted different levels of tables, and. And I love that. But she found this, you know, stool that I had in my pod that I want.
Robbie
A stool. It's a beautiful stool.
Gabby
I know, but I brought it up from here to put in our bedroom.
Robbie
By the way, we could next to the chair if you want.
Gabby
No, babe, this is the podcast studio.
Robbie
Okay, go ahead.
Gabby
She wants to take everything, but it's not a bad idea if we could replace it.
Robbie
Babe, I don't. But for the pod studio, people might be very attached to it.
Gabby
No, I'm not, actually. I Think it's a really good idea. And it kind of looks like the other table. No, it proves my point in that the wooden stool, I just don't like there.
Robbie
I. And I prefer the wooden to this. But I would. I would compromise.
Gabby
Okay. Sometimes, Robbie, like, we both. Sometimes we'll just have to put our foot down. Like, I do not like that painting there. I'll acquiesce. I succumb. I tried. That's fine. And, you know, sometimes I get to try my voice out, too. And you know when I try my voice out, what I'm hit with. I hate to say this. I don't want to say this. I hate to say this. Over her.
Interjector
Over her.
Gabby
Nigiri. She's saying this. I hate to say this, but I
Robbie
think there's a helicopter.
Gabby
I think I make. I have better taste when it comes to design.
Robbie
Here's what happened.
Gabby
Can you imagine? She could not. First of all, we all think that. I think that too. You think? I don't think that's what happened. Second of all, you think I would ever say that out loud?
Robbie
You have. Many times.
Gabby
No, that I have better days. Let me tell you. I think you have amazing days.
Robbie
I know. I. And I think the same of you. What the people need to understand what I'm dealing with is. This is just one example. But I have a painting that I made when I was eight years old.
Gabby
Okay, no. This is already sounding so pretentious. No, but this is the problem with telling your kids that they're great because I know where you're going.
Robbie
First of all, we didn't. My mother did not think. Well, no, this is the one weird example where I made this painting. My grandfather. My grandfather painted landscapes. Nathan Latovsky. You can look it up. Somebody just sent me an email that they saw one of his paintings for sale on Etsy. Whoa. Which is really cool.
Gabby
I want to see it.
Robbie
But Nathan. So I used to. Anyway, I made a painting. He came over. He visited. I don't know. We made this painting. I painted a tree in a valley and whatever nature. And he. My grandfather gassed me up about it, which is, you know, which was. Felt really good at the time. Must have been eight, nine years old. I don't know. And he said, we gotta frame it immediately. We gotta frame it. So he goes. And I. I knew framing was expensive because when my grandfather had to frame his own paintings for he was trying to sell, it was always a big deal. So I'm like, he's gonna pay and he's gonna frame My. He goes, okay, so listen. So listen, I'm telling the people the story.
Gabby
No, but I'm also in the room.
Robbie
Okay, but listen, because look, there's a two teen here. Look at these two dogs. Okay, okay, so that painting my mother sent me, I moved to California. Years go by. I had this painting since I'm 8 years old. My grandfather framed my grand. Was inspired.
Gabby
I know what you're talking about.
Robbie
Where did Gabby hang this? Knowing all this? In the bath. She has this in her bathroom.
Gabby
First of all, I didn't know this was the one that Zadie said we have to frame it immediately.
Robbie
That's the only frame painting I have.
Gabby
You think I'm gonna think back that much and deduce and do all kind of calculations?
Robbie
Here's all.
Gabby
You think I'm. No, you think I'm that tuned in?
Robbie
Here's the kicker. Even after she finds that out, it's still hanging in her bathroom.
Gabby
It's far enough away. It's not getting any. It's not getting anywhere. Plus, that's not bad. That's not bad taste. It looks great there.
Robbie
But I just.
Gabby
She's worried about the risk of water damage.
Robbie
Okay, well, here's.
Gabby
Which I completely understand, but water doesn't get over there to damage it.
Robbie
Okay? So thank you, lovey. The other thing is, you have to understand that our apartment is 90% gabby. Now, that's not necessarily her fault. She had a much bigger place when we moved in, and I sold my sister a lot of my stuff because my sister was taking over my place, and she had. Was very particular about the things she had at the time. She had a really eclectic sofa, which I love. She had some things. We bought some stuff together, like rugs and stuff. But for the most part, a lot of it was kind of hers. She had a queen bed. I only had a double, and I made mistakes. Yeah, so. So it's fine. We've both made mistakes, but for the most part, this idea that it's 90%. Like, the whole thing is 90% yours. So when I do put my. Like you're like, oh, when you put your foot down, your whole foot is down. The whole place is. Your. Is Your foot is down.
Gabby
Well, so this is good, because now we're uncovering something else, which is that
Robbie
keep in mind we just finished the new season of couples therapy, too.
Gabby
Well, no, this is. Yeah, because I feel like it's not coming from a place of taste. It's coming from maybe that you. You're feeling a lack of ownership.
Robbie
No, I'm not.
Interjector
Okay.
Robbie
But thank you. But thank you. But it is.
Gabby
Because when you helped me pick mostly everything.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
And the old apartment, which came here. Maybe you didn't pick it for yourself. Maybe for me in a place at
Robbie
the time when we didn't live together.
Gabby
So what don't you like.
Robbie
No, I'm saying all I said. And I didn't say what you said.
Gabby
Yes, you did.
Robbie
No, I did. No, you were high and you're misremembering.
Gabby
I misremember?
Robbie
Yeah, you.
Gabby
No, it was worse, probably.
Robbie
No, it wasn't. You were pushing. You hate the table there. You hate the table.
Gabby
I did. I was like. I had my foot down her other table is there.
Robbie
The chairs are there. Everything's.
Gabby
Doesn't matter that it's mine.
Robbie
It's mine.
Interjector
I don't care.
Robbie
I agree. First of all, it's all ours. We bought the trust. It doesn't matter.
Gabby
Yeah. No.
Robbie
I'm gonna say what happened. I gotta say what happened. Lovey. You gotta let me.
Interjector
No.
Gabby
It's really such a shame somebody's missing you as a lawyer. It's really such a shame that you can't get this energy out in a court of law.
Robbie
Well, let me bring it to the court of people, babe.
Gabby
If you don't talk to me.
Robbie
Okay. I just want to finish and say what happens. So she. We're having the sugar fish. We're eating. We're eating. She really hates it. She really hates it. Now. I. You know, people like. There's many just. Design is a language that could take years in different forms. And it's finessing and it's changing and it's evolving and all the stuff. Okay. But there's certain things that people kind of adhere to.
Gabby
Cold and warm for.
Robbie
Yeah, cold and warm. If you have. If you have a wooden table, you might want to want metal chairs. If you have. You know, if you. You want to layer textures. If you have a rug, you might want a glass side.
Gabby
This, I think, is an offense.
Robbie
You might want some height. Different height of lights.
Gabby
Yes.
Robbie
You might want levels. Okay.
Gabby
Yeah, yeah. Dimensions.
Robbie
Levels and balance. And all of these things have a big.
Gabby
And I agreed on.
Robbie
Here's the thing. We had the chairs here. We have a very high table between them, which is really an entry.
Gabby
Just what we have.
Robbie
It's just what we have. We want to save it.
Gabby
Yeah. No, we don't want to. I don't need to save it.
Robbie
Okay. Well, it was expensive.
Gabby
Well, we can give it to Carmen. I think we should give Everything else,
Robbie
because it's an entry and you're putting on your shirt. Anyway, bottom line, it's. It's really a small thing. It's just a little stool that's at, like.
Gabby
It's the first.
Robbie
Imagine there's, like a layering of these two stools.
Gabby
It's the first thing you see when you walk inside. And it. It is. It sticks out like a thumb.
Robbie
No, only because you're focusing. But here's the thing.
Gabby
Say what you told me.
Robbie
So I said, babe, I don't look. Because she was like, I. She was screaming.
Gabby
I was not.
Robbie
She screaming, taste.
Gabby
I was not.
Robbie
Okay, not screaming, really. But. But she was insisting. I know. As if she was saying, I trust me. My taste. Everybody loves my taste.
Gabby
I was saying that you were saying something about your taste, but I was not saying it like that.
Robbie
And you said, I won't take it personal. Okay, Right.
Gabby
Because I knew she was biting her tongue about something, so she was really personal.
Robbie
So I said, okay. I said, you won't take it personal.
Gabby
But she. But you provoked me. You goaded me. Because I know when you're being quiet, you don't want to say something. So I was just willing.
Robbie
I was like, okay, the stool, whatever. But she was like, no. Like. And I was like, no, you. And she said, I won't take it personal. I said, you won't take it personal. Right.
Gabby
Because I thought it was just about the school.
Robbie
So finally. So. So I said, you won't take a personal. No, I won't take it personal. So I said, I know that you're new. I said, something's.
Gabby
In fact, that's like, I'm a fast learner.
Robbie
Yes. And I agree that you've, like, taken on, you know, you, You. You. You've really, you know, really devoured and. And leaned into design, especially everybody.
Gabby
I had a bunch more time and moved into a place where I needed all new furniture.
Robbie
Yeah, she had a lot of time and whatever, but some of these aesthetics. I've been on my own since 17, and I grew up with a lot of the kind of cultures and fashions that she likes. Now, coming from New York and Montreal,
Gabby
this is what's going on.
Robbie
So she tends. No, she tends to tell me, I like this look. I like this look. She'll be like, and I know that look because it's. It's pretty common.
Gabby
Okay, what'd you tell me then? I said, I won't take it personal.
Robbie
You said, I won't take it personal.
Gabby
So she tells me, you say, I tend to have better taste in design, or I think I have better taste in design than you. So. So then she made it.
Robbie
No, I didn't know. I didn't say that.
Gabby
There was a direct comparison.
Robbie
I didn't.
Gabby
You're missing.
Robbie
I said, I think you have great taste and. But I. I can be trusted more. I think I have very good.
Gabby
You said better, baby.
Robbie
I might have more. More acceptance experience with interior design.
Gabby
You said better. I don't know. Why do you think. Look at her. Why do you think? I freaked out anyway? And I didn't even freak out. We were laughing. I'm like, are you?
Robbie
Because we generally do agree on a lot. Now we're talking about a little stool, whatever. For the most part, most of the look. She comes in with the sofa. I love it. She comes in with this thing, the bench. I love most of our look. It's small things. We both agree that when the chairs happen, we're both thinking, what do we do? How do we make an entry? Because we don't really have an entry. We have nowhere for co. Like, it's just open. So we wanted to make a cozy entry, and we were thinking chairs. I send her those black chairs. She goes, baby, read my mind. I was thinking, these chairs.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Is that not what happened?
Gabby
Yeah. Okay, well, I love you.
Robbie
I love you.
Gabby
Thank God that's over.
Robbie
She wanted to talk about that the
Gabby
second I started saying, don't tell me
Robbie
you're not going to take something personal. And tell me. Well, because you made it.
Gabby
You made it personal.
Robbie
Taught us.
Gabby
I won't take it personal. If you were like, I, you know what, I don't like this. Or I don't like this. Here I thought you were going to give me another criticism, like you didn't like something, but you. I said, I won't take it personal because that's what. I didn't think it was going to be personal. And then it was personal.
Robbie
Babe, here's the whole thing. When I met you, okay, you had the macrame. You had the macra. I. I didn't take. First of all, I don't mind. Like, I don't care for you and all of lifestyle and where you're comfortable. I'm comfortable.
Gabby
I know we had different asking.
Robbie
My taste. If you're asking. You just asked me something on your phone. You asked my opinion, and then you said, don't.
Gabby
What happened on everything?
Robbie
No, but you just asked me your opinion. What was it when you.
Gabby
With the nails.
Robbie
So she's showing me this nail she wants to get. She goes, what do you think? I said, oh, I prefer these. She said, don't comment on my nails. She's literally bringing the phone. I'm on my computer. She goes, babe, I'm going to my nails. I'm doing this as this. She brings it to me. She goes, what do you think? This nail? This now? I go, oh, I like this. Now she's like, so you don't like these? And I was like, no, I don't really like the image.
Gabby
She goes, get something sexy, like a French manicure, which I did. And I have her name on them.
Robbie
Well, she wanted something like. Yeah, sexy but unique.
Gabby
Well, no, I had a picture of these too, but they were.
Robbie
But they were, like, wild.
Gabby
And you were like, the black tip.
Robbie
The black tip is gonna look like dirt under your nails. Look at this. This. So she brings me these, baby.
Gabby
No, because. Talk to me.
Robbie
I have. Okay.
Gabby
No, because I also have my own camera.
Robbie
Why'd you put this one right here?
Gabby
Because.
Caller
Because.
Robbie
Can I sit next to you? Wait, can I sit next to you?
Gabby
Yeah. Do you want to sit next to me?
Robbie
Yeah.
Interjector
Okay.
Gabby
And then I'll. I'll actually move your camera.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
So we each have her.
Robbie
Or wait, that's actually going to be better.
Gabby
Okay.
Robbie
Okay. So who do I show this to? Yeah, this is the nails.
Gabby
Okay.
Robbie
So the black tips picture. We're going to the beach. We have sand. This is going to be black under, you know, and. And fingers is all we have that are. You know, I don't want to get into it.
Gabby
Babe, that's so cute.
Robbie
You want to sit next to. Hey, Kitty.
Gabby
No, but you guys, we're all just playing. Oh, wow, this looks really good.
Robbie
See? And then we can share the soda.
Gabby
Oh, thank God.
Robbie
I'm so tired again. I can't believe I have to pack. I haven't packed. Not a stitch.
Gabby
I can't wait to pack. I'm so excited to pack.
Robbie
And I just can't wait to be king.
Gabby
See, it's not your autism. It's you. Your already finding this cube.
Robbie
Oh, okay. Well, my autism is probably
Gabby
okay now. We got.
Robbie
Oh, yeah. You don't want to share a bite?
Gabby
No.
Robbie
It feels like it's cooling down.
Gabby
I know. Don't I know. It was really your car that was heating it up.
Robbie
And I just can't wait to be king.
Gabby
You can talk into here if you want. Or.
Robbie
Or no, I'm gonna wait. No, but, babe, I want you. You're. I don't want you sitting there.
Gabby
No, I'M not.
Robbie
I just have to figure.
Caller
Okay.
Robbie
I just do like this. Yeah.
Interjector
Okay.
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Robbie
See what she does? Okay, is she asked my opinion, but then if. Or she tells me she wants to hear what I have to say. She doesn't take it personal. She forces me into it and then says how dare you give me gizy? And I literally got like. She comes here and she's giving me
Gabby
this camera's on me.
Robbie
You smell so good, love. You already smell like the vacation.
Gabby
No, because I have bumble bumble spray. I think these are objectively cute. And I was like, should I get these?
Robbie
So she's asking me. But then. So what am I supposed to say?
Gabby
And then I'm like, you don't have a say in my nails.
Robbie
Oh, yeah, that's what she said. You don't have a say in my nails. I said, I don't even want to say in your nails because you're just
Gabby
supposed to say yes. Like, do you think? And then I showed her these ones. Yeah, Like a ladybug. Just so cute. But you know what? But I always do take your opinion into consideration, even at first, if I don't like it, because look what I got. And I texted her a picture of what I wanted to get, and I was like, okay, if we can make these work, should I. What color should I do the pink or the black? And she said, if you're gonna do it, do it. And then the black.
Robbie
Black. Yeah, I like the black.
Gabby
See, even though, like, my words maybe don't speak loud, but my actions really speak louder. Oh, okay.
Robbie
Well, what do you mean, your words don't speak loud? Babe, this came off.
Gabby
That's fine. Like, when I'm like, you. You can't. Don't tell me what to do with my nails. I mean, maybe my words bite. Or I'm like, whatever, I don't trust you. Or I don't trust your taste.
Robbie
Yeah. She's always coming to ask.
Gabby
But I ask, but I do.
Robbie
And then. So I've stopped. Like, I'll wait till she asks now to, like, with this design thing of the stool and why I thought the whole thing wasn't working.
Gabby
We are going to have somebody come by, and we will report back.
Robbie
And she's an actual designer, so we'll see.
Gabby
And we just. I could be wrong.
Robbie
I'm happy to be wrong. I just gave my opinion about why it wasn't working, why I think it was working, and I think I've just had a little more design experience. It's something that you soak up years and years and years. I've been on my own a lot longer.
Gabby
And you've always had great taste. But I've never.
Robbie
Because I've always been from nothing. I know. Finding good things of the Salvation Army.
Gabby
It is true. I've never been exposed to it. And I'm a sponge.
Robbie
She's a sponge.
Gabby
I'll suck it up really fast. And like, the people like her who have been practicing all her life, they take it really personal when they get passed up No, I don't take it personal.
Robbie
I just say, you want me to agree the table looks better. I don't think it does. I don't want you, so I'm gonna lie.
Gabby
Actually, this is what I. I don't want you to. I. I think you'd be like, fine, you know, we'll move it. One of us. Well, this is. This is one thing. Most of the time, one of us always gives in. We're like, oh, it's just not that big of a deal. I totally get it. But this time we're not. Which is why we need a referee.
Robbie
Well, most times I give in.
Gabby
You don't realize the times I give in.
Robbie
Okay, we'll name a time, because I have times ready to go.
Gabby
Well, babe, I don't keep, like. I don't keep receipts.
Robbie
I don't have either.
Gabby
I just. I. Oh, okay. But let's get into Real Housewives of Rhode Island.
Robbie
Don't you think I let things go, though? I just.
Gabby
Oh, yeah.
Robbie
Like. Like, just generally, I'm just like, okay, yeah. Unless you really push me to ask something or something.
Gabby
No. The bottom line is that at some point, like, sometimes you are afraid that. That I am going to pop off irrationally. Because it happens.
Robbie
Right.
Gabby
Because I have a mood disorder.
Robbie
That's okay.
Interjector
But.
Gabby
So then. Which. I don't ever want to make you scared, ever. Like, I'm not. I'm not laughing at like that, but I think, like, yes. You're. You're also very quick to, you know, Sorry to use this word twice in one, but it's on. Acquiesce.
Robbie
Yeah. Because I'll just say my opinion, but it's okay if it doesn't go that way.
Caller
Way.
Robbie
I'm like, all right, well, we're not doing that. But it's just something.
Gabby
It's only some things that we both feel very passionate about. Like, if I said no and if
Robbie
it's not important, like a stool.
Gabby
Okay.
Robbie
I can. I can hammer down on if it's an opinion of, like, you. You don't want to stay at this hotel. You for the hotel. Okay. That's where you're staying. Okay. I'll say that's no problem. We'll stay there.
Gabby
Yeah. So true.
Robbie
You know what I mean? If it's something like, oh, like, how's she gonna. How are we gonna sleep? How are we gonna live? Or something like that, I'll always acquiesce and make comfortable. If it's something as. As silly as a side of a side table, which is what we're working on. I don't mind to really hammer home something like that, but the. The more important things, I'll always.
Gabby
It was just so funny because I did not know what was coming at all, but. But also, it's like, I don't know. I like how we can just, like, tell each other everything and make a joke about it. And like, sure, I took it personal for a second, but then I get
Robbie
told me, promise me, tell me what you're saying. I'm not taking personal. I was like, okay, she's in a mood. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, she had an edible. She's not. Okay. She really wants to hear my opinion, so that's what I said. I don't. Fellas, don't go out there volunteering and doing this. Also, don't make it seem. I hope I didn't give the wrong idea, like, oh, that we're. We. We only sweat the small stuff. This is one particular small thing about a side table. Also, don't sweat the small stuff. Acquiesce as much as you possibly can. Of course, the important things, you know, and if you have to hold your ground on important things for your important reasons, that's fine. But for the most part, I would say 99 of the time, acquies. If you die on 1% of things, make sure because it really means a lot to you or it's such a nothing thing that it's honestly fun.
Gabby
You go, I am dead on this hill. And I go, yeah.
Robbie
I go, I would die on this hill.
Gabby
And I go, no. And then you go, I am dead. And I was like, I'm deader. Like, no, no. But even if, like. And that is the thing, small stuff versus large stuff, I feel like we never sweat the big stuff, though, because we know we're going to, like, figure it out and work on it.
Interjector
Okay.
Robbie
It's amazing. It's unbelievable. So we really only have sweats off. And again, 99 of them. I'm not sweating.
Interjector
Yeah.
Robbie
Fellas, do not be, you know, volunteering your opinion here and there. I don't volunteer nothing. If I have an opinion, it's a good opinion. And that's honest, too. If she wants my opinion on something that I have no opinion on, I'll say that. But if she's really pushing me to have an opinion, she knows this. Maybe not. Then I really think about it in the moment, and often I lose. If that happens, if it does come out. It did not come out.
Gabby
No. But it takes me one second, and then I do really Value it. Like, if I. But. But that is. I don't know what's so great about being with someone who can be honest with you. Because also, I wrote when we were in New York, and this was. I don't. I don't need. Whatever. No, no, it wasn't bad. It was honestly for me, too. Cause it's like, when do. Like, when do we stop wearing foundation? I guess, like, just like, in general, when do girls kind of stop? Or if you're not going to an event. I. I don't know. Or if. If thing. Do you know what foundation is?
Robbie
Like, the makeup?
Interjector
Yeah.
Gabby
So, like, sometimes I'll wear foundation. Yeah, I'm not right now.
Robbie
Oh, you look beautiful.
Gabby
I know, but look, you have an
Robbie
eyelash that I know look can make it with.
Gabby
Want to know what I wish for?
Robbie
No, don't tell me that.
Gabby
Okay, but when we were in New York going to the Mets game and you got us tickets and whatever, I got dressed. I literally wore what I had in my closet, which were leather pants and a leather jacket. And I put makeup on. And I asked you. You weren't saying at that time, but I was like, do you think I wear a lot of makeup? And you were like, sometimes. Not in a bad way at. But you were just in here. Like, yeah, sometimes at photo shoots. And like, we've. Well, you guys finding a makeup artist as hell, like, to have them. Whatever. Do you. Like, you look like yourself. Look like yourself. But then I was kind of like, oh, yeah, I guess, like, I don't really need to wear foundation all the time. Like, I don't know. It's kind of freeing that.
Robbie
Yeah, well, she asked me. You can't ask me personal. But at first, do I wear a lot of makeup? And so I thought about. It was like, sometimes she does and sometimes she doesn't. Of course she does. Press events. So she wears. She has a makeup artist.
Gabby
But I meant, like, kind of day to day.
Robbie
Oh, well, I know you were wearing makeup when you even asked.
Gabby
See, that's what I wanted to hear, but it didn't come out.
Robbie
Oh, okay. She just asked me, do I wear my. I was like, yes, you do.
Gabby
But it's not. You know what? But I'm always going and searching for an answer, and we can't do that to ourselves, girls. We just cannot.
Robbie
But I said, with makeup. Or I know when she has to wear makeup because she did a photo shoot. She did something. Okay, there's a makeup artist in the house. But it's not like she has to wear makeup because many times she doesn't wear makeup. She's not even wearing the foundation now. She's.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
You know, treat it like it's a different. You have work clothes, you have different things, right? I do. I always wear.
Gabby
You know, and not to say a lot of makeup is bad either because I know it's. It's kind of like, it's also like an outlet and girls can do makeup really, really, really good. And like that. I'm just saying like for myself. Yeah, yeah.
Robbie
By the way, which I didn't know you even thought that because that's not what you. But. But yeah, I, I think that, you know, you don't wear makeup at home and I. Great. But you also.
Gabby
But. And I also wear makeup and look beautiful if I was better at it. Like. But yeah, no, I don't know. I thought that was a, like a time I asked for feedback. At first I took it personal. I was like, what do you mean? And then I kind of thought about it and I was like, oh, well actually that was nice to hear because also I took it as like, like, oh, you don't need that much makeup.
Robbie
Yeah. Like if, like when you. I took it as when you asked me if you were makeup. It's like, do you wear. I thought when you were going to stuff, like I consider it like I thought you were getting ready from the hotel to do something. And I was like, yeah, you're gonna. I don't even remember what it was. But no, you weren't even wearing makeup. And I was like, yeah, it was
Gabby
a leading question and I didn't get that. But, but, but then I got an answer that I actually liked and that was better.
Robbie
Oh well, see, you never know how she comes around. You got to be very careful answering. You try and stick to the truth. Cuz the truth is all you know. But even the truth, the truth does not set you free. Sometimes it gets you caught. Sometimes it's. It's a web. Sometimes you're like, like she asked me does she wear makeup? Yes, my wife wears makeup. Like I, I don't even know where to go with that. I'd be lying.
Gabby
Well, I said a lot of makeup. Like as in two.
Robbie
And I think I said sometimes you wear a lot of makeup.
Gabby
Yeah, you said sometimes times because sometimes
Robbie
you do wear a lot of makeup because it's. You're doing this weird.
Gabby
Right?
Robbie
Cool, artistic. Sometimes you have like black going to your. Like sometimes you just. You do. You. You have an editorial thing or something
Gabby
and that I Can't change.
Robbie
No. And it's amazing.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
I don't consider either one good or bad. I. You know, I love it.
Gabby
All true. I think I was projecting on you, like, you know, it's probably the man thing when he's like. Like, oh, I don't like girls who wear a lot of makeup, but it's like, go yourself. I'm a girl and I'm allowed to wear makeup.
Robbie
And I love.
Gabby
Internalized that and been like, oh, well, what does my wife think now that I'm not with a man.
Robbie
I love when you're. When you're dressed up and make makeup and. And I. I do. And I love one more.
Gabby
You've never seen me. Yeah. It's so nice, and it's so freeing,
Robbie
and I love it. You know what? Maybe a version is, like, you know, for me. I wear long sleeves a lot. A lot?
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Okay. If I told you, do I wear long sleeves a lot? You'd be like, yeah, Now I'm wearing short sleeves today. This is unusual for me to be interested, but I.
Gabby
But it's so hot.
Robbie
Okay. Yeah, but I'm in short sleeves, but it's not like, do you care that I'm wearing short sleeves? Do you prefer me in long sleeves?
Gabby
Well, makeup is different because it's, like, known to change your appearance and make it better. So it's like.
Robbie
Or different. I don't even know if it's better. Because you're the best. Oh, every version of you is the best. They're not comparable.
Gabby
Well, what, you don't like my silk?
Robbie
What's the silk?
Gabby
My silk hair wrap.
Robbie
No, I hate that. I hate that. It literally, because you.
Gabby
I got a silk hair wrap because, like, I'm trying to do silk on my hair and just to protect it. It. And I've tried sleeping on a silk pillowcase. I cannot. And I have a silk.
Robbie
Wait, why can't you sleep on a silk pillowcase? I thought you loved that. That's done.
Gabby
Yeah, I liked it for a week. I just. I like our Dunes and Dunson.
Robbie
Deuce and Deucen. You hear this? Okay.
Gabby
But they did know the quality of the pillowcase. And the quill is just, like, so nicer. My cheeks. And I wear it now I wear a silk mask, so it's basically like a silk pillowcase. But I need something for my hair, so I got this.
Robbie
She got this, like, turban. I don't even know if it's appropriate, but I don't know. But anyway, it.
Gabby
That's the only Thing. Really?
Robbie
Yeah. You asked me if I liked it.
Gabby
I said no. Well, this was also what I was gonna ask you. Well, I have two questions.
Robbie
Yeah, but if you need it, it's fine.
Gabby
That I know, baby. Like she's literally the most supportive. Like she'll see me go to bed with tape all over my face and she's like, okay, this is how we're going to bed now. And it's like, yeah. And then she just like all she wants to do is feel my butt. Me too. I like a booty squeeze at night,
Robbie
but yeah, I have a couple of. You have so many things going on tonight. You have the mask. Well, stop. Let me.
Gabby
Let me ask you, okay. What do you think about my skincare regardless? Do you think it's too.
Robbie
I love it. Your skincare rich. Well, you love it.
Gabby
Well, what do you think I'm doing in there?
Robbie
In where?
Gabby
In my skincare reg.
Robbie
I think. Okay, so here's how I describe it to people. You know what? It does change. You know, it's back. Squee. Yeah, squee is back. So when we first started dating, she would squay, which is
Gabby
trans epidermal water loss. I have combination skin. I had no idea. My cheeks get so dry and I've been trying out different lotions. Different lotions. I put so many on at night and then I wake up and they're dry. If I had a silk pillowcase. I do wonder if it's better. But I. So I've been used. I'm back on the squay Squalene. She calls it the squeeze.
Robbie
She's got her squay. What do I think you're doing? Well, what are you really doing?
Gabby
Describe me. Like doing it.
Robbie
It like you have a very long wind down process. I kind of like our. I can't tell if I want your arm here. But then I. I can't get close. I can't tell if I.
Caller
I really
Robbie
like our together winness. Like we're in the same room. She's next to me with a big bucket of potions. She has kind of like a.
Gabby
It's a fake Juicy from Amazon Dot
Robbie
kit might be real. And she's got all these different things and she puts one on and she dabs and she waits and then she puts another one. And meanwhile I'm watching my videos. I'm doing whatever on my phone I'm.
Gabby
Or we'll watch a documentary, my climbing documentary.
Robbie
And she's in between, which you love this climbing documentary.
Gabby
I know. I wanted to talk about it.
Robbie
Yeah. The Dark Wizard. We have two more episodes. The Dark Wizard.
Gabby
It is a dark documentary. I don't even like, like. Well, I think. I don't know, since what's. His nuts came out free solo. I don't know if everybody got into the, like, interest of these freak climbers.
Robbie
Well, I'm.
Gabby
But, yeah, I know you are. But even as somebody who's not at all like, it is very engaging.
Robbie
I agree. Yeah. The Dark wizard. Hbo. Four episodes. But anyway, so. I don't know you're doing that. You're. Sometimes I help with your spray tan can.
Gabby
Yeah. You did a really good job.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
She's. She gets me with a tan in a can. This is her the whole time.
Robbie
Well, Bates. It's extremely. It's extremely aerosol. You know, aerosol is everywhere.
Gabby
It's like noxic. Not noxious.
Robbie
Yeah. Is it bad for you?
Gabby
No, but that's what. I know that's what you think it is.
Robbie
Well, I just got a radon kit because I wanna. I wanna test for radon.
Interjector
Why?
Gabby
Did you ever live in a basement?
Robbie
No, but I'm worried about. What's the deal with radon?
Gabby
Radon is in basements.
Robbie
Yeah, but it can penetrate your house. You have to get. You have to figure it out.
Gabby
They only test for it in basement.
Robbie
I know. So I'm gonna taste test for it.
Gabby
But. Have you ever lived in a basement?
Robbie
No.
Gabby
Oh, yeah.
Robbie
I've lived in a basement apartment in Montreal. But it was. It was not an unfinished basement. It was a basement apartment.
Gabby
I don't think that matters. But.
Robbie
What do you mean?
Gabby
I think it doesn't matter if it was finished or not.
Robbie
Well, I think because it's exposed dirt.
Gabby
I don't know.
Robbie
It's a gas.
Gabby
Okay, well, yeah, get it to us if you want, but no, same. I do really just like to wind down with you and. Yeah. It helps me get ready for bed. And I. I do feel lucky that you don't nag me about it because it can be quite a lot. I mean, I. I do. They all do something. They're really ingredients and they have to dry in between. And it's like. It's like a hobby. I don't.
Robbie
It really is a hobby.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
But. Yeah. I've never even considered nagging about it or anything. Like, when I see you doing your thing, I'm like, oh, she's doing that. And I just. She's doing everything next to me. I don't. When we kiss in between.
Gabby
Yeah. Sometimes I have a face. Mask on.
Robbie
Yeah, we still kiss, so I don't know. It's not the same routine every night. I like, exactly. You have the face mask. Sometimes you have to do a 10. Sometimes you have to do a shower and a. This. This. Sometimes you have to do. I don't even know. I. I like, there's so many different things. It would be literally, this bucket is like this. With different things.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
And each one is so small. And to keep. To keep. Like, it's almost like she's a personal pharmacist for herself.
Gabby
Oh, yeah. No, it's chemistry. Because you have to know what can be layered on top of each other. What can be used during the day, what can be used during the night. And then you switch off things used during the day and during the night.
Robbie
So the amount of little boxes we get. Like, I feel like one of my jobs is taking out, obviously the recycling and whatever, but we have. It's like you could never take it out fast enough.
Gabby
What do you think about my weed smoking habits?
Robbie
Nothing. I don't think anything of it. Do your thing.
Gabby
See you guys. Like, I got the perfect one.
Robbie
Oh, I just.
Gabby
I got the perfect.
Robbie
No, if you thought. If you thought. First of all, I think. I don't. I don't think it's the worst thing to unwind at night with it. Listen, I wouldn't be Scarilla's mother over there on the documentary. What was her name?
Gabby
Oh, I didn't finish.
Robbie
Mackenzie. Her parents were encouraging her. First of all, she was underage and smoking in this. I think that is unacceptable. I think it was a problem for her. And I think her parents should have been parents, you know, in that case. And not encouraged it. Your parents should always discourage you from doing things once you're a grown up. And you're especially grown up to Gabby's extent, where she's a really capable grownup and. And an ICU nurse and. And a businesswoman. And.
Gabby
And I never. Not saying this is like.
Robbie
And a novelist. Honestly, I don't know. People know. Well, I just trust you completely with what to do with. With your life. You're not impaired as a young person.
Gabby
No, I don't drive when I'm high.
Caller
No.
Robbie
But I'm just saying you're not like somebody who. You're not a child.
Gabby
Oh, yeah.
Robbie
Like, we're at this point, we're choosing responsible people to be with.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
And. And you don't give me a hard time with anything either. We just don't give each other a hard time. Except. Except for the little.
Gabby
Weren't we met the other day, we were saying, like. Like, I was in our bedroom doing something. I don't know, like writing or. And you know, or unpacking or doing something. And Robbie's so sweet. I like to. Not that you guys. Well, I do sound so pretentious, and I'm pretending like I don't like it, but I love it. But I like to listen to classical music when I write. And.
Interjector
No.
Gabby
And I'm like, does it bother you? Or. I'm like, do you mind if I put classical on, like, while you pack? And she's always like, no, but we were in two separate rooms. You're. You were watching your podcast youtubes on the TV in the living room, and you were like, oh, is it okay that I'm over here? I'm like, oh, my God, of course. And I felt like. It felt really good for you to hear that because you told me it did.
Robbie
Well, I used to get in trouble if I watch something. I don't know. I had an ex who didn't like that I didn't. That I. That I. That I like different stuff sometimes. Like, I love watching your housewives with you and all the stuff.
Gabby
We watch Rhode island together.
Robbie
Yeah. Yeah, I like doing that.
Gabby
But then it's an hour a week.
Robbie
No, it's great. And you're watching the climbing document.
Gabby
Yeah. Yeah.
Interjector
Oh, yeah.
Robbie
But she would take it personal if I, like, followed a podcast or something.
Gabby
Yeah, you even said that the other. Oh. With the climbing doc. You're like, oh, if we're gonna watch it, we have to watch it from the beginning. I'm like, no, no, it's fine. Because I was in and out again. You see how much I write. The laptop was on.
Robbie
She's writing. This is. Guys, I actually think that you. This is actually crazy. I actually think that you may be like. You feel like, oh, Gabby's impressive. She's worn so many things. I see. Nurse. The. The. The. The. The. Whatever. The reality star of it all. The.
Caller
The.
Robbie
That now acting like. Which is going to be crazy. Crazy. But the novelist of you, she's, like, truly a writer. Like, I now joke. I watch you writing all the time, and I consider myself a writer. I'm not a writer, babe. No, compared to. Because so many writers, they tell you they're a writer and you go, oh, send me a sample. They have nothing to say. They never wrote. She writes every day, and it's really good. We can't talk about this. This. Oh, yeah, ghost thing.
Gabby
What Ghost thing.
Robbie
Remember? They want. They. At first. Before Gabby got her book. Deal.
Caller
Deal.
Robbie
And you can cut everything.
Gabby
Oh, yeah.
Robbie
They were like, oh, we're putting this ghostwriter. This ghostwriter.
Gabby
Oh, no, we can talk about this.
Robbie
Which, like, show me the stories. I'm looking at these stories or your essays. Well, it was actually really good.
Gabby
Well, yes, but also to everyone's this. I started writing my proposal three years ago.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
I didn't know what I was getting into.
Robbie
That's fine.
Gabby
The people who were guiding me were like, yeah, get a ghostwriter for the proposal. So I. And for the proposal, I wrote three sample essays. Ways. Way too much work, but whatever. Also, that was, like, two years ago.
Robbie
It was crazy.
Gabby
I didn't have anything excellent.
Robbie
Okay. So.
Gabby
And if you think they were excellent back then.
Robbie
No, your writing has just taken. So that's the thing. It's like, the writing is. And I was like, ghostwriter is like, for an incapacitated Britney Spears. No offense. And we wish you well. Okay.
Gabby
Or people who don't have the time.
Robbie
Like, you know what I mean?
Gabby
It's like.
Robbie
Or not a biography. Somebody who knows how to write. And you see her even on this podcast. Somebody asked me the other day, they said, oh, do you help with the podcast? I don't do. For the podcast.
Caller
What?
Robbie
Yeah. They're like, do you guys help it? I'm like, no, no.
Interjector
She.
Robbie
She's. She. This is all her.
Gabby
But also, it's like, you're so busy with your own stuff.
Robbie
Thank you so much.
Gabby
We have our own endeavors. I think there is. There does have to come a point which, like, I think we kind of learned early on where we can only lean on each other, of course, for advice and stuff, but actually using each other in physically our own projects is like, no, I gotta handle this on my own. You handle yours.
Robbie
She knows what she's like, yeah, dip into your podcast.
Gabby
I'm way more tech savvy than you.
Robbie
I don't know how to do anything here. Okay. And I'm boiling hot.
Gabby
But she's the best guest ever.
Robbie
Thank you. But we do love. Yeah, we love, like, working with each other.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Having our careers next to each other. And it's just like, she's always. I always feel like you're in the office next door. Like, that's how it feels like our life is. It's like we have, like. Like we share an office.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
It's the best. Like. Like. Like if you were two lawyers renting a space. Somebody's on this side. Oh, the Other lawyer. He rents the other space there. That's.
Gabby
That feels like. I know that feels a little bit like. Like.
Robbie
But we're always in the doorway talking to each other.
Gabby
Yes. We always check in on each other. We're always like, what do you need? What do you want? I did get. Well, Robbie likes to drink tea, so every afternoon. Yeah. So I got tea sets for us. So I'm like, we could have tea time every afternoon. She doesn't like drinking out of tiny cup.
Robbie
It's too small. I like a big yeti for my tea. I like a big.
Gabby
Yeah, but it would. And we do. We. I feel like we have. Have, like, well, mornings we have so much.
Robbie
But also, here's the thing. Even though if it's not separate, like, we don't have physically separate offices, we have one outfit.
Gabby
I just could, like, be around you all the time.
Robbie
Like, we're in the same room and it feels like that. That she has the office next door. Because in our computers we have different works going on. But I could always be like, hey, look at this. Or whatever. And you're always like, hey, look at this. Or whatever.
Gabby
Yeah. The best part, I love being involved and, like. And you asking for any kind of, like, opinion of mine makes me feel so good because I'm like, oh, my God. She trusts my opinion.
Robbie
I really do.
Gabby
Except for the stool.
Robbie
The stool.
Gabby
And that's okay. And I'm over it. And it was never going to be personal. It was never personal.
Robbie
Babe, why did we have to. What was with the housewives? You said there was something to do with them.
Gabby
Oh, yeah. Well, we. It's a. It's a discussion. The Rosie versus Kelsey.
Robbie
Okay, now I'm. I'm notoriously bad at the names.
Gabby
Yes.
Robbie
So who are the names? Names.
Gabby
So. Oh, should I show you a picture?
Robbie
Yes.
Gabby
I mean, everyone does look alike on this season. I know, but it's. It's. Honestly, it's so nice right now.
Robbie
Let me see.
Caller
Lovely.
Gabby
Okay.
Robbie
This is better.
Gabby
This is.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
Rosie.
Robbie
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gabby
I know her.
Robbie
I know I know her. I love her. I actually love her.
Gabby
Yeah. You're team Rosie.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
And this is Kim. Kelsey.
Robbie
It's interesting that, that. Okay. And Kelsey's the one who came in to her house.
Gabby
Right.
Robbie
Okay, I have to say something.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
And Kelsey is the one with the boyfriend paying everything, who's not her boyfriend anymore, Right?
Gabby
Correct.
Robbie
Okay.
Caller
Okay.
Gabby
She's in it.
Robbie
Here's. Okay. So Kelsey is the one who was the weather girl.
Gabby
No, that is Rosie.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
And Then which, if you guys haven't seen this clip on Tik Tok of Rosie working IRL as her job as a weather girl, it is incredible, and I feel like it just gives you insight to her as a person and her relationship with Corky Frank Sinatra.
Robbie
Okay, so Kelsey is the other one.
Gabby
Yes. Kelsey is the one who came to
Robbie
her house with the siren.
Gabby
Yes. Okay. Yes.
Robbie
Here's the whole thing. And I think my people might be surprised. Surprise, surprise. Robbie's a walking contradiction. Robbie is a comedian herself. I'm wrong all the time. Time. Okay. That said, I can see where that joke went wrong, because I have jokes go wrong all the time. I think that Kelsey, the one who came with the sirens, it wasn't hitting. Yeah, the joke wasn't hitting. Okay, fine. Move on. Move forward.
Gabby
She did try. She didn't apologize, but she did try. Because I watched it again. She did try and loosely diffuse the situation, but she didn't do it in a good way. And I don't think Rosie. I think Rosie let her in on the defense. Ready to fight?
Robbie
No.
Gabby
Well, here's the thing, and I think that's fine.
Robbie
Can I finish the opinion?
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
So she goes to the house. Okay. It's very trepidatious. It wasn't like a welcoming come to the house. It was already like something was brewing before because she was making a joke about the size of her house or the size of her pool or something.
Gabby
And they had made up. I don't know if you saw that.
Robbie
So, yeah, they made up, but it was still pretty touch and go.
Gabby
Yes.
Robbie
Was the sense I got from it.
Gabby
And this was their first time hanging out one on one afternoon.
Robbie
It's not like it. It's not like me at a comedy show. Okay. We have comedy. Whatever. Somebody says something or a comedian says something that somebody doesn't like. That's kind of the avenue for that. Okay. This is. People aren't coming for comedy necessarily. Yeah. Okay. It's not this thing. It's somebody's house. And it's been touch and go because of comments you've been making.
Gabby
Yes.
Robbie
So she comes in there, there. It doesn't hit. I thought the other girl was very vulnerable to let her in her house and to do it. And she was actually wanting a friendship. So I think it was just missed there. And I think also her comments about her house or whatever. I thought that Rosie said it good. Yes. Did they get hysterical and whatever?
Interjector
Yeah.
Gabby
And they just can't talk.
Robbie
But I think, yeah, I think that that aside, I Think Rosie was like, where's your house?
Gabby
I think that if you're provoked, I think it was valid. And that's what we were all thinking. And Rosie just said it to her
Robbie
face because don't catch st. What's that saying?
Gabby
From a glass house.
Robbie
From a glass house. So she was casting stones from a glass house.
Gabby
Yes. And so that's what you're gonna get.
Robbie
That's what you're gonna get because it's like, where's your house?
Gabby
Literally.
Robbie
Her husband, meanwhile, is out there.
Gabby
Your job now. I don't think Rosie's still a weather girl. I forget what she does.
Robbie
It doesn't matter. But her husband loves her and her husband is working like a dog. You see him, he's like shoveling. I think the whole time this is happening, this dude is shoveling rubble. He's getting.
Interjector
He.
Robbie
He. You know, he's. All of us. He's in the back trying to make it good, you know? So I don't know. I think to put down somebody's. If you're going to put down somebody's livelihood of their house or whatever, you better come correct. You better come with everything in order.
Gabby
I think it was too early to try and make a joke like that.
Robbie
And it was too early. And then she does it again with the dinner. She wears that sachet.
Gabby
No, that was the opposite. Yes. Well, now they're fighting. So now that's a housewives kind of.
Robbie
What's with the sash? That said what?
Gabby
That's what. That's what housewives do. Is actually feels kind of like bachelor. Is they, like wear it with pride. Like they're reclaiming like, oh, you called me a slam pig. Now I'm gonna, you know, wear this
Robbie
like to kept doing it.
Gabby
Well, now they're fighting. Now they're fighting. They never made up. Well, they made up once and they had a big blowout and now they're continuing to blow out. I think slam pig is an amazing term. I gotta write it down.
Robbie
What is it for?
Gabby
To go in my book.
Robbie
What does it mean?
Gabby
It means like a slut
Interjector
or.
Gabby
No, I think a slam pig is somebody who. For money.
Robbie
But it's like it was reading Insecure from the Skeleton. And the thing is, is I like Kelsey. Like, I don't know that Rose same.
Gabby
I think she can be a bit of a bully.
Robbie
Like, it was bully.
Gabby
Yes. In the beginning, she. Because yeah. She would not let off of. Of the square footage thing of Rosie. And like, yeah, we can not saying Rosie's line. It's like, we've been around people you can smell, you're like, I don't believe them for a fucking second. But she was so mean about it and kept going in and kept going in and like.
Robbie
Rosie, what's the square footage thing?
Gabby
The square footage thing is that it's 5,000 now, square feet. And they're making it to 8,000 in February now. I don't know what month they're filming.
Robbie
It's unbelievable. That house could be 5,000 easily. That upstairs, that downstairs. And then it looked like they had a lot of space in the back.
Gabby
I mean, it's not square feet. That's not my circus. It's not. My monkey is the thing. But also, I would. I don't know. I'm sometimes a judgy, but I wouldn't take it that far, and I would mostly keep it to myself.
Robbie
Think about 2,000 square feet.
Gabby
Right.
Robbie
Like, I. I don't think.
Gabby
Which is a lot.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
2,000 square feet is what I'm saying.
Robbie
These people live in big homes.
Gabby
Well, that's. That's in the middle. Housewives. This is. This is the newer gen. It's really not like that anymore. See, See me? I'm kicking the horse while she's down.
Robbie
Okay. And then the other drama on that show.
Gabby
This is bad.
Robbie
Was the thing with the. With the. With.
Gabby
With the homeless. Yeah. She will not let up. I cannot.
Robbie
She's really unbearable.
Gabby
If we don't move on one from this fight, like, I'm gonna have to fast forward. I saw something the other day that she's doubling down online.
Robbie
What's her name?
Gabby
Liz was calling Alicia.
Robbie
Who was the one who was homeless?
Gabby
Alicia.
Robbie
Liz was the crazy eyes, I assume. I think she's on meth or something.
Gabby
She's on something, clearly. But this is how Housewives goes.
Interjector
No, no.
Caller
Yes.
Robbie
It is really something.
Gabby
They're always. There's always. They're on something. Their meds aren't mixing. Yeah. And this is her season.
Interjector
Yeah.
Robbie
No, she might be on. On. On cocaine. I don't know. What. What do you think?
Gabby
She could be literally on hgh, testosterone. Her muscles are busting out.
Robbie
That's what I want to be on after. J. G. I'm telling you now, that. That one. First of all, she was homeless.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
So, like, homeless doesn't just mean. She said, okay, you weren't homeless living on skid row. But I think it's pretty scary as a kid if your father loses your home.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Your father. For home.
Gabby
When she was a couch.
Robbie
She's sleeping in an aunt's house. And this right. As a kid. You don't have your house.
Gabby
No. And couch surfing is homeless. And the whole scene where she's surrounded by all of her mom and aunts and all the women, they were like, crazy. You were homeless.
Robbie
Like, homeless. Like she had an hour definition of homeless. Which is fine. Fine. She was trying to say that, but she should have immediately said, oh, I'm sorry. I think when I think homeless, I think that. But. But I. I see what. I completely empathize that. That, yeah, you were homeless. And. And it can look different ways. Whatever it is, she handled it. She really mishandled the wrong. And. And you said you thought of me. I mean, I never really thought myself homeless, but we were homeless. We. When. When we left and we went to live with my great uncle Eddie, my mother and her 10 kids, me and my nine siblings. Yeah, we were homeless.
Gabby
There was two bedrooms.
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
But I moved a roof over your head. You had no heat.
Robbie
No, we had heat, love. It was just bad. And we had to. It was. We had.
Gabby
Well, you were freezing.
Robbie
We were freezing.
Gabby
It was. It was Montreal.
Robbie
It was Montreal. So. So the windows are thin. You have to cover them with Saran Wrap and stuff. But we did have heat. But I'm just saying.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
Moving into my grand uncle's house is a homeless and a wife way. Yes. Somebody took us in, but it wasn't our home.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
And we weren't paying rent. He was.
Gabby
And it all kind of happened, thank God, when she was like, you know, and suddenly I was left. My thing is, Liz is whatever saying she wasn't homeless. She says in an interview it's under the pretext of protecting Alicia's family. What are you talking about?
Robbie
That was a great point.
Gabby
All of Alicia's family has her back.
Robbie
Back.
Gabby
So why are you saying this? What is actually the reason why you're being like that?
Robbie
She can't protect her own family. First of all, she's in her family. She's speaking to her about herself, which is her family about.
Gabby
Yes. Either way. And two, her family's on camera corroborating it.
Robbie
So this girl is crying and sad, wants you to see her, and wants your attention, validation, and you're just further laughing, scoffing at her. Well, I said sorry. First of all. Whenever you're saying I said sorry, first of all, just don't say sorry.
Gabby
Yeah, right.
Robbie
Just don't say sorry. If. If you're not ready to say sorry
Gabby
and you don't believe you're sorry, she's like, I said sorry 12 times. It's like, yeah, but you never meant it.
Robbie
Yeah. If you mean sorry and you want to say sorry, say sorry. If you don't, don't say anything.
Gabby
Don't say, I said sorry and she's not sorry.
Robbie
Valid.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
No, she's not sorry. So then to say, like. Like, you could not be sorry, sorry, but own that. Own that.
Gabby
It's really crazy. I don't know where her loyalties lie or why, but Alicia did say in an interview she was like, liz is abusive. And you could see the weight lift off her shoulders. She's like. That felt good to say because, you know, they've been friends for so long and we've all kind of had an older friend who pins you down and spits in your mouth and sucks it up and then does it again and has. We have a bully in our lives, and that is Liz to Alicia. And I think Liz is jealous of Alicia.
Robbie
Me, too.
Gabby
Because she's beautiful.
Robbie
Yeah, she has.
Gabby
And I know she's not, like, married, but she's in a happy relationship. She has an amazing kid and she's light.
Robbie
She.
Gabby
She has a lightness to her. Liz has, like, a severe heaviness. Oh, my God.
Robbie
And I think so.
Interjector
Really?
Robbie
And said smoking in the, like, the way that she was just sitting there smoking outside.
Gabby
Oh, Liz.
Interjector
What?
Gabby
Did we see her? Oh, yes.
Robbie
She was like, by the. The exit door.
Gabby
Yeah, this. Somebody said.
Robbie
Yeah, that's her.
Gabby
Yeah. On Reddit, said someone compared to. To Zuma from Emperor's.
Robbie
No, she. She really has to get it together. Both of these bullies have an insecurity.
Gabby
That's all.
Robbie
That's what's going on.
Gabby
What a bully is.
Robbie
That's what's going on.
Gabby
The one who went into the. Somebody needs to take Liz down. But she's such a. That it's like she thinks she won't let anybody. But she'll be left without friends.
Robbie
Babe, drugs is going to get to her first. Nobody needs to take her down. She's going to take herself down with all these drugs.
Gabby
I don't know. Maybe. But also, I sat down. It's like we were all, all the, all the girly weed heads were riding for her in the beginning. We're like, oh, my God, this is
Robbie
the representation we need.
Gabby
No, but, babe, you're not listening. She owns. She owns a dispensary. She's, you know, very stylish. She does everything. We're like, oh, this literally is the representation we need. We haven't Seen someone like this on TV before. And then she stabs us in our back y. With our own. What kind of something sharp do you use with.
Robbie
With our own dagger.
Gabby
With our own deck. With our own bong.
Robbie
But here's the whole thing. Because she wasn't using the bong. She's moved on. She's somewhere else.
Gabby
Babe. She's. She's on those.
Robbie
She's not just with weed. Yeah, exactly.
Gabby
No, she's on. She's moved on those gray market peptides and they're making her eyes bulge out of her head and act cuckoo crazy.
Robbie
She is not at your mom. She's not your mom and pop's weed shop. Okay, she's somewhere else.
Gabby
But I want some of that. Okay? We've been going for an hour and 15 minutes.
Robbie
Oh, I thought you wanted to take a call.
Gabby
Oh, do. Yes, I have actually. I have some good ones.
Robbie
And then we got a pack skis.
Gabby
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Robbie
Now, last time you said Luna forgot to cut some things as usual. Well, he makes sure.
Gabby
No, he. He hasn't done that in a while.
Robbie
Okay, Luna, every time we. We mention go through with a fine too.
Gabby
Oh, please. I don't. I don't know when I said that. Luna, I'm sorry. You've been really good lately. Well, okay, okay, hold on.
Robbie
You want to hear.
Caller
Hi, Gabby.
Gabby
Oh, hold on.
Caller
I'm a first time caller.
Gabby
Wait, I have. I have to start over. I know. It's so good.
Robbie
I know. So, babe, what happened to it?
Gabby
No, I have to let it start. All Over. Cuz there's no way of going back.
Interjector
Okay.
Robbie
Where did you get this?
Gabby
What do you mean?
Robbie
Just go to the beginning like that.
Gabby
You can't go like. Like that. You. I've been working this for a long time. You literally can't. No, you have to let it play.
Robbie
Oh my God.
Interjector
I know.
Robbie
Got a minute here? Sounds like a gay guy now.
Gabby
Well, we got to pack. We have our own snorkels.
Robbie
We have our binoculars and the snore. Keeping the snorkelers. They break the rule that I try. You know when you read those condos and everything, you're like, you know, or there's like the 20 rule. Like if something. If you haven't used something in a year and it's under $20, you don't have to keep it. Just in case. Right? Like whatever.
Gabby
First of all, snorkelers is so funny and cute.
Robbie
So. But you know what? The snorkels were under that. Because they're from Amazon.
Gabby
But they match.
Robbie
But. And we use them two years ago. But they do bring me joy.
Gabby
No, and you can use them. I love them. Because we can use them whenever we want.
Robbie
Have to buy them. Okay, let's.
Gabby
Okay. Okay.
Robbie
Okay. We're ready. But make sure you got it. Good.
Caller
Thank you. Okay.
Interjector
Okay.
Robbie
Okay.
Gabby
Ready?
Robbie
Yes, I'm ready. Go ahead.
Caller
Hi Gabby, this is cj. I'm a first time caller, longtime listener, former lesbian, current trans guy. Did you get all that? So basically I was wondering if you had any thoughts on like dating as a trans guy. As a lesbian. I'll just be blunt. I had game. I kind of knew what I was doing in the realm of dating. I've been single for quite a while. I ended up pretty toxic long term relationship towards the beginning of my HRT time. And I'm really not in a rush as you can see. To get back out there, I'm not trying to dig just a date. I do live in a pretty rural college town while I work on my PhD. Yeah, I find that not a lot really carries over from the lesbian playbook. Although I do think that some things do and can. But there are new mental blocks. I am no stranger to how shitty men can be. I even put off becoming one, you could say. But anyways, yeah, I was just wondering what kind of thoughts or advice or reflections at all you may have. Have for a pretty shy, well meaning trans guy who would like to date again someday. Love the pod. Thank you. Bye.
Gabby
Can I say something really quick? You sound amazing and smart and hot. Honestly hot. And cute. Like just by. And no, he's getting his PhD. Like, the dating world is so hard, but just by, by this, like, he just sounds amazing. Would you say?
Robbie
Yeah, you know what? I, you know, I had, I had a lot of, you know, I, I think, I think dating. Just treat it like dating. Like you're like, dating any, like, just, I don't know, just don't put such an emphasis. Just treat it like dating. And don't necessarily think trans dating. Obviously, be upfront about your experiences and how you identify and what's important to you and what off the bat. And then once you get those things, just treat it regular, whatever that means for you. It maybe isn't advice. I really don't know.
Gabby
Well, and it's hard because wherever he is getting his PhD is rural. So it's like, you know, we don't know how many. It sounds like there's one sexual orientation in the rural place.
Interjector
Place.
Gabby
And that's sodomy with.
Robbie
Oh, I mean, maybe he's into sodomy.
Gabby
No, not. By the way, a lot of guys
Robbie
who take tea and you didn't specify who you were trying to date, and that's actually helpful. You're trying to date girls or guys?
Gabby
No, he, I, he's trying to date girls.
Robbie
But we don't know when he was a lesbian dated girls. A lot of guys take tea and then they, you know.
Gabby
No, but also he was like, I understand the, the state of men today, which is why I, I, I put off becoming one. I don't think that really goes for gay men. Right. But I think you're great. And the circumstances. I love that he said, the location I feel like are.
Robbie
Well, I love that he said, like, I'm obviously not rushing to date. Like, as if we know that. He's like, I'm obviously, like, I'm obviously like, I don't, like, need to date today. It's like, we don't. Bro, we don't know you. Why would we know that? So, well, here's the thing. The thing is you called into gab to ask. You want to want to date. Be upfront with that to begin with. Don't say, I'm obviously not. Yes, you do. You want to date. Be vulnerable, Be uneasy. Be, be embarrassed. It's embarrassing. You want a date. You want a girl. Welcome to everybody's life. So be honest. Be honest with yourself. Be honest with the people that you're with and just treat it like dating. And that's.
Gabby
And if you have, if you had game as A lesbian, then you definitely have game. Now, that game did not go anywhere.
Robbie
No. Unless you went to somewhere. Just be true to yourself. Yeah. You want to. First of all, the first thing is be upfront with us and be. If you're going to be upfront with us, be upfront with. With. With the person you're going out with. Okay. Yeah. You do want a date. You called in, ran, first of all, and then at the end it goes, I'm a shy. You're not shy. You called into the show again. You're not that shy. People are shy.
Gabby
Very confident.
Robbie
Stop putting these. These limitations up. Hey, you're factually not shy. You called into the show.
Gabby
Well, sure, maybe we don't. We don't know.
Robbie
But you're not the shyest person that ever was, so you can probably shed some of that. And the other thing is saying you don't want to date. Start owning it. You do want to date. Be intentional. If you want to be intentional about it.
Gabby
Yeah. Maybe it was hypothetical, so maybe you
Robbie
needed that to know. Oh, maybe you'll be better at dating if you really want to date. Right. So I think just. Just be as you as possible. I think I hear a lot of trans guys who take our HRT or, you know, it is a very selfish time when you're starting to transition, and I hear of a. Of lot. A lot of toxicity in that time. So I don't think you're unique in that. Where you were going through your transition and the. And the partnership didn't last through that because you're obviously going through. Well, we don't know whose fault it is exactly. We don't know who. If it was her fault, his fault. But we know that you're going through very big personal changes when you're going on hrt. So not a. You know, there's a lot. There's a lot there. So that's all sounds normal and sounds like stuff I've heard before, obviously, in this niche. Community. Community. But I would say be honest with yourself first. You want a date. Maybe you're not all that shy. Maybe the swag is still there and just be up front and still there.
Gabby
Love that baby. Should we do one more?
Robbie
Yeah.
Gabby
Okay.
Interjector
Hi, Gabby. I need some advice. I left. Well, I divorced my husband. I left and divorced him because I realized I was gay. And also he was a piece of. But that's not what I need advice on. Took care of that problem. The problem. Well, it's not a problem. It is kind of a problem, so. Right. Right. After I divorced my husband, I did meet a girl. Well, a woman really. And she's awesome and amazing and everything I would have ever wanted. I feel like, I mean, she has her little flaws, her little quirks. Don't we, y'? All? But the problem is I can't help but feel like I want to have a hoe face. And I didn't really get to because I met her like right off the bat and she is monogamous. I mean, I am too, but like, I kind of want to have a hoe phase and I feel like this is my last chance cuz I am not getting any younger. And I want to be fun, be at the bars, at the clubs, meeting all the ladies, being free. But I also don't want to lose this amazing person that I met who makes me feel amazing. So like, what the fuck do I do? I need help, please.
Robbie
What do you think, babe?
Gabby
Well, I wouldn't. I think, I think this one's hard because. Because do lesbians. How easy is a whole phase for lesbians? Are we really, you know, getting together this and that and getting our whole face satiated or are we going to be waiting around for a while? Will we u haul with this one? U haul with that one? Will a lesbian even be at the club? I think if the whole phase is for you and you just want to like go out, have fun with your friends and be single, yes. But I don't know if you're looking for girls, which, like, I'm asking you, I'm asking because you would know that, like, if, you know, if, if truly, what is the equivalent for a whole face for lesbians?
Robbie
I think it's an age thing for. I think she mentioned her age and that was the thing. If you're young, you're in your 20s, and you're whole facing, there's a lot of girls at the club or whatever you're talking about, or the bars or the events or the gallery opening.
Gabby
I was just thinking, literally, I think that that's fine.
Robbie
Okay. Okay. But I do think, yeah, you got to be careful in a whole phase because you never know when you're going to fall in love and you never know when, when, when your plans change. So you might be at an age where, you know, I don't know, I. I can't make the decision for you. She should be very aware that you just got out of a divorce and stuff and she should have her own. She should have no problem taking it slow and steady and being somewhat open or at least on Your end, you're being open. And. And if she. If she only has feelings for you, then she can continue only having feelings for you.
Gabby
You.
Robbie
If you still only have feelings for her, then that's fine, but you still want to hook up. You don't need to do anything you don't want to do anymore. And you really should not be doing that anymore. As far as the whole phase, I think Gab could be right that when you're going out, who's really out there? Unless you want, by the way, a girl 10 years younger, whatever you're doing. I don't know. You know, sure, but I don't know. But also you.
Gabby
You understand the risk of losing this girl who you find is, you know, who you really like.
Robbie
You can use somebody. No, I think someone.
Gabby
What if somebody. If somebody was like, which I understand, just getting out, divorce. I don't know how long you guys have been together, been talking. Sounds like you're really interested in each other. If someone was like, which, it's good to be honest, but if someone was like, I'm really into you. I just need to be single for a while because I just got outdoors. I'm like, perfect. Bad timing. I'm going to open myself up to somebody else. I'm not going to wait around for something that might not ever come right.
Robbie
But maybe they'll open themselves to someone else and they're still thinking about you.
Gabby
Maybe, but that's a big. That's a big risk.
Robbie
You did. It is a big risk, but I don't think she was yours to lose. Like, there's so much that I don't, you know, like, think about it. You just got out of your divorce. You met somebody. You're gonna meet somebody again. If you need.
Gabby
Right.
Robbie
But.
Gabby
But no, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it sounds like she's in a predicament because she does actually really like this girl.
Robbie
I understand.
Gabby
If she didn't really like her, then it'd be a no brainer.
Robbie
I get it. But. But, you know, but you're also. Yeah, you can also take your time. You took your time with me. I take your time.
Gabby
But what if I was like, oh, you know what? I need to actually, like, go out, spread my wings.
Robbie
I don't know. You were kind of going out. I had no idea what you were doing.
Gabby
I was not kind of going out.
Robbie
I don't know.
Gabby
We were boyfriend, girlfriend, like one and a half weeks down.
Robbie
I didn't know what she was doing.
Gabby
That is not True. Okay. I'm about to piss.
Robbie
Okay. Love, everybody.
Gabby
Thank you guys for helping me with.
Robbie
You know, we're going on summer break, but I will be on tour. I'm still blown away. It's so nice to be back with you. We've only been back a few days, but with my first theater tour and selling that out, I've added 15 dates. A lot of those are sold out. But we did add three shows actually in Charleston already.
Gabby
Oh, my God.
Robbie
I was just there. But we didn't add the show in Charleston. But Charleston's on set sale. But we added Chicago in Albany and one other place. But I know there's tickets.
Gabby
We'll check your Instagram. Also, we. We weren't able to say. I mean, maybe if. If I'm allowed to. But you've been obviously crushing dude in your first theater tour that you helped your brother.
Robbie
No.
Gabby
Buy a home.
Robbie
Ah, yeah. My family. So nice to be.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
You know what? This is. This is such a large conversation because.
Gabby
Yes.
Robbie
Yeah, this is a large conversation. I mean, my brother also helps my other brother who has. We all help each other. I mean, my family, you know, you grow up like that. You grow up like a pack and whoever has throws it in the middle and we try and figure it out. You know, it bothers me about the system already because we pay 50 in taxes and then we have to split the 50 we left. You know, then I give out. It's like, I wish we didn't have to be in such. I wish everybody could have their meal because we've been contributing. But of course, that money goes to. To, you know, this administration's, you know, crooks, and it went to the last administration's crooks and whatever. And it doesn't actually go to help people. So you have to take what. Whatever remaining income you have and. And spread that. So it's kind of like double dipping. But my family always helps each other.
Gabby
I'm just so proud of you.
Robbie
Okay, well, anyway, and we did it together, my brother and I. Thank you. We really together. It was like a pitch in.
Gabby
Yeah. Everybody.
Robbie
It was amazing. And all on the phone.
Gabby
Finally seeing that happen to somebody like you. You hear of these amazing things and like, oh, so and so. Which, yes, it was a combined effort, but, like, you know, it's just to watch it actually happen to someone so close to me who was able to do that to their family is like, whoa.
Robbie
And he calls you toots.
Gabby
He calls me tuts.
Robbie
He's the best.
Gabby
And you guys, well, it's Like, I don't. My family, you know, maybe my mom would need it, but it's like I don't like her. So still.
Robbie
Yeah. Endless. And, you know, my brother and I, we haven't always agreed or whatever, but I don't think anyone should live in squalor. And if I'm. And he's also not the kind of person to ask or it's like, it's like, you know, it is pulling teeth to even help my family to some extent because he's not the kind of person to necessarily do that. So.
Gabby
Yeah.
Robbie
But. But anyway, we should, we should talk more at length on that. Not when we have to pee. Okay, so maybe cut this one ascended the to me.
Gabby
Oh, my God.
Robbie
Okay, okay, okay. I'm Robbie Hoffman on.
Gabby
Thank you guys.
Robbie
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Caller
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Robbie
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LONG WINDED with Gabby Windey
Episode: “The Robby Hoffman (again)” (June 18, 2026)
Guest: Robby Hoffman
In this intimate, playful, and often laugh-filled episode, Gabby Windey welcomes back her partner, comedian and writer Robby Hoffman, for another deep-dive into the messiness and humor of everyday life, relationships, sexuality, design squabbles, reality TV, and plenty of candid Q&A. The couple share unfiltered insights into their relationship dynamics – covering everything from shopping disagreements and interior design debates to routines, insecurities, and Real Housewives gossip. With Gabby’s trademark self-deprecation and Robby’s razor-sharp candor, the episode is part slice-of-life banter, part listener advice, and 100% honest fun.
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This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in modern queer relationships, relationship negotiation, and unfiltered pop culture commentary—with an added layer of sharp wit and heartfelt vulnerability.