LPN Deep Dives : HOSAB / Episode 27: You wanna fight me, fishass?

Summary

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LPN Deep Dives: Crescent City

Episode 27: "You wanna fight me, fishass?"
Hosts: Natalie Jean & Jackie Zebrowski
Release Date: December 9, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode continues LPN Deep Dives’ thorough and humorous breakdown of Sarah J. Maas’s Crescent City series, specifically focusing on the events after the "submarine adventure" and exploring the political, magical, and deeply personal drama unfolding among Tharion, the River Queen, Hypaxia, Ruhn, Hunt, Bryce, Ethan, and others. Natalie Jean and Jackie Zebrowski maintain a witty, irreverent tone while unraveling chapter 52 and onward of House of Sky and Breath (HOSAB), blending character analysis, recap, and comedic tangents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: Wigs, Accessories, and Dating Tactics

• [03:50–09:18]
  • Natalie and Jackie riff about ill-fitting wigs, "head shrunky disease", and accessories as fashion statements.
  • Tangents on monocles, top hats on a date, and the ethics of using disability aides as fashion accessories.
  • Memorable Quote:
    • "Are you into, like. Is that something where you're like, oh, very Dickensian. Ooh, interesting." – Jackie ([06:12])

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2. Tharion and the River Queen: Intrigue Under the Sea

• [09:27–15:33]
  • Recap resumes: Tharion returns to the River Queen post-submarine escapade, reporting some—but not all—intel.
  • River Queen’s throne imagery (“seat of river oysters”) discussed with aquatic/Medusa-associated speculation.
  • River Queen is incredulous her Ocean Queen sister shared secrets with Tharion and feels threatened about the river's status.
  • Discussion of court politics, sibling rivalry, and the vast difference in power between river and ocean.
  • Notable Moment:
    • Tharion worries about River Queen’s reaction and internally doubts the ocean would care about her “dumb little river.” ([14:14])
  • Leads to Tharion’s exit and set up for a tense meeting with Hunt Athelar.

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3. Hypaxia’s Awkward Arrival: Witch Coven Drama

• [15:53–24:43]
  • Cut to Ruhn, reeling with the appearance of Hypaxia (his betrothed) at his frat-house-turned-strategic-hub.
  • Jackie and Natalie joke about kinder, less enthusiastic smiles and the state of Ruhn’s garbage frat house.
  • Details Hypaxia’s unexpectedly isolated upbringing—homeschooled by ghosts due to her necromantic talent—and her lack of socialization.
  • Hypaxia requests Ruhn act as her bodyguard/escort during the archangels’ equinox ball, expressing distrust of her own coven.
  • Exploration of succession politics, favoring the Hind (her pale, blonde half-sister), and the coven’s prejudices.
  • Quotes:
    • “She was homeschooled by ghosts, which seems like a lot.” — Natalie ([29:37])
    • "Everything is just another box. Check, check, check. Yes. Want, want, want. Super cool." — Jackie on Hypaxia ([29:52])

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4. Ruhn’s Bro Squad and the Gross House

• [22:01–24:43]
  • Humorous examination of the state of Ruhn’s residence and how his lifestyle might reflect internal turmoil.
  • Jokes around the etiquette (and subterfuge) of hiding a “mirth root blunt” in front of a queen.
  • Ethan’s role as comic relief and muscle.

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5. Necromancy, Trauma, and Emotional Boundaries

• [41:33–46:46]
  • Hypaxia, Ruhn, and Ethan discuss Ethan’s desire to contact his late brother Connor via necromancy (seen as traumatic, risky, and emotionally fraught).
  • Natalie and Jackie lampoon Ethan’s obsession and imagine putting Flynn in a bedsheet to convince Ethan he’s seeing Connor.
  • Quotes:
    • "Raise the dead. Never mind. Raise the dead. I don't care what. It does raise the dead for me." – Jackie ([46:58])
    • "We all have to live in his delusion to keep him from going insane." – Natalie ([47:33])

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6. Tharion & Hunt: “You wanna fight me, fishass?” & Dangerous Secrets

• [33:33–40:43]
  • Hunt approaches Tharion, discusses Deathstalker demons and the state of Emil.
  • Hunt warns Tharion to make up excuses for the River Queen, drop the search for Emil, and reveals the boy has no Thunderbird powers.
  • Classic LPN banter:
    • "You want to fight me? Fish ass." – Natalie ([37:00])
  • Tharion contemplates how to keep up this charade for as long as possible—enjoying “freedom”.

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7. Bryce & Hunt: Jake Ryan Vibes, Seduction & Reconciliation

• [49:23–63:12]
  • Bryce returns home after work, dreading facing Hunt after a heated argument.
  • Hunt waits for her outside with “Jake Ryan from Sixteen Candles” energy (extended riff on iconic teen heartthrobs and their actors).
  • Inside the archives, Hunt and Bryce’s prolonged make-up scene is both emotionally revealing and sexually charged.
  • They tentatively resolve their issues—though listeners and hosts agree Bryce should apologize first for keeping secrets.
  • Quotes:
    • “He tells her he loves her even though she’s crazy and, quote, shady as hell.” — Natalie ([62:49])
    • “Give me it. Give me it. Give me that dick.” – Jackie (Dudes Grappling With Erotica) ([62:56])

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8. Ruhn & Day: Anger, Vulnerability, and Self-Worth

• [63:13–71:44]
  • Ruhn dreams of a meeting with mysterious Day; their relationship is tense after an intimate encounter.
  • Day warns about Pippa Spetsos’s imminent, violent plan.
  • Emotional blow-up: Day accuses Ruhn of never experiencing real sacrifice; Ruhn expresses feelings of inadequacy due to his accidental birthright.
  • Reflection on “Nepo babies” and the struggle for personal worth.
  • Quotes:
    • “Not a king. His father wasn’t a fucking king either. Not in the way that mattered. Message received…Prince of Nothing.” — Ruhn’s inner monologue, read by Jackie ([70:39])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Witch Upbringing:

  • “She was homeschooled by ghosts, which seems like a lot.” ([29:37], Natalie)

• On Personal Worth:

  • “Not a king. His father wasn’t a fucking king either. Not in the way that mattered. Message received…Prince of Nothing.” ([70:39], Inner monologue read by Jackie)

• On Banter and Seduction:

  • "He tells her he loves her even though she’s crazy and, quote, shady as hell." ([62:49], Natalie)
  • “Give me it. Give me it. Give me that dick.” ([62:56], Jackie as Dudes Grappling With Erotica)

• On Crescent City’s Bro Culture:

  • “Humorous examination of the state of Ruhn’s residence and how his lifestyle might reflect internal turmoil.” ([22:01–24:43])

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 03:50-09:18 | Opening banter: wig, hats, accessory tangents | | 09:27-15:33 | Tharion & River Queen: secrets, family drama | | 15:53-24:43 | Hypaxia's arrival, coven politics, ghost tutors | | 33:33-40:43 | Hunt & Tharion discuss Emil, Deathstalkers | | 41:33-46:46 | Ethan’s demands, necromancy, trauma humor | | 49:23-63:12 | Bryce & Hunt’s make-up, relationship dynamics | | 63:13-71:44 | Ruhn & Day confrontation; self-worth issues |

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Episode Tone & Style

Natalie and Jackie maintain their signature irreverence, constantly weaving humorous asides, raunchy interjections, and pop culture references (from Sixteen Candles to Prince Harry and woodworkers) throughout their recap. Their intimate knowledge of the Crescent City universe pairs with a casual, freewheeling conversational style—making the deep dive both insightful and entertaining. The duo frequently steps into the characters’ voices for improv, jokes, or re-imaginings of scenes, adding meta-commentary on everything from Fae housecleaning to interspecies politics.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode continues to build LPN Deep Dives’ reputation for balancing detailed Crescent City recaps with sharp, comedic analysis. Fans of the series—and even newcomers—will appreciate the clear breakdown of recent chapters, the hosts' empathy for struggling characters like Ruhn and Hypaxia, the meta-humor around fantasy tropes, and the very real emotional stakes hiding beneath all the banter and nonsense. If you need to catch up on the “rabbit warren” of Crescent City plotlines and want to laugh about it, this episode delivers.

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Next Reading Assignment:
Read up until Chapter 56 for next week’s episode!

Transcript

[Natalie Jean]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Natalie Jean]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Natalie Jean]

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[Natalie Jean]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Natalie Jean]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Natalie Jean]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

Gimme, gimme.

[Natalie Jean]

Give me that. Sweet.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Welcome to Crescent City with your hosts, Natalie Jean and Jackie Zabrowski.

[Natalie Jean]

This wig is the only wig I have that has too big for my head, and I don't know why.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Whoa.

Maybe you got head shrunky disease.

[Natalie Jean]

Wow. That's what we're starting with, huh?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I wanted to save my gold for the beginning of the episode.

[Natalie Jean]

Really good.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

We got little head. We got tiny just syndrome.

[Natalie Jean]

Just for this one.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Just this one time. So it is temporary. So honestly, everybody calm down. Yeah, please calm down, because I am starting to look at you and I'm like, oh, is she a Q tip or is she a dragon?

[Natalie Jean]

I don't have it secured that well, so you may see my forehead progressively get longer and longer.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You better not, or else everybody's going to flip out. There's something wrong with her head.

[Natalie Jean]

I feel like it's more. I'll just get Internet trolls making fun of my face.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No. Five head. Five head. I'm giving you it.

[Natalie Jean]

I was called that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I also was called that.

[Natalie Jean]

Really?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Natalie Jean]

I don't think you have a big forehead.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I appreciate that, but apparently it's like a billboard magnet for bullies.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, they really, really love that. I did make out with the guy who said that to me in my late teens.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Did you say, who's the five egg now? As you, like, hit him in the head with your head?

[Natalie Jean]

I think it's more that at the time, I didn't feel like I was valuable, and so let's unpack this.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Natalie.

[Natalie Jean]

That shit that they used to like, you know, like, the nag them thing works with teenagers, which is why those guys like teenagers quite a bit. Because teenagers are like, yeah, you're right. You're so cute now for whatever reason that I'm feeling that I should kiss you. I love this also.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was the big hats, remember? Wasn't that a part of the game? It was like, put on a big hat, that girl's definitely gonna fuck you.

[Natalie Jean]

I don't know, but that sounds right.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was like, part of, like, the stuntin part of it.

[Natalie Jean]

The fedora of it all.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. I also, you know, honestly, MJ and I were just talking about this. Would you. In this day and age, dude shows up, let's say. I don't wanna say first date. I wanna say third date shows up and you're at dinner and he's got a top hat on.

Do you fuck with that? Like, are you into, like. Is that something where you're like, oh, very Dickensian. Ooh, interesting.

[Natalie Jean]

I think I'd be more like, what's up with the hat?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Would you bring it up? You would immediately be like, why is that happening? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think. I think I wouldn't be mean.

[Natalie Jean]

I would just say, what's going on with the hat? That's interesting.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Wow. Interesting choice.

[Natalie Jean]

And then see what his answer is.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was like, the person I went on the date with that had a monocle, and I did ask if it was prescription, and he said no. And I said, then why have it?

[Natalie Jean]

Also, even if it was prescription? Get out of here.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

What is a person supposed to do if only one of their eyes needs the prescription?

[Natalie Jean]

Natalie, get lenses. Where one lenses the prescription, the other.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

One isn't okay with your newfangled Internet trying to bring me answers to my questions.

[Natalie Jean]

Isn't it just annoying to hold a monocle in your eye if you don't have to?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I guess that. Or do you get like. Like, you start bragging about how tight your face is?

[Natalie Jean]

Like, was he holding it the whole time with his face?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, he was gesticulating with it. Which also, again, then you have something in your hand the entire time. But he also had his accent cane as well that he also didn't need. Oh, wow.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that's a lot.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It only took me till I think the second date to find out that the cane was not needed. And then I realized it was like, oh. Oh, it's a. That's just a choice. He just loves accessories, which go off king. But. And I do love. I think that next year I have been thinking a lot about doing, you know, I try to do fashion trends for a year. I try to stick with it. And we were Talking about maybe 20, 26 is probably, before you leave the house, put 25% more on more accessories.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, sure.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I want to up my accessory game.

[Natalie Jean]

I feel like we don't need to use people's disabilities as accessory pieces, though. You know what I mean? Like, what do you mean?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

My back brace is going to really shine in Vogue?

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It seems like me, no one sees it. They don't know I have it. On, but they know I'm always uncomfortable.

[Natalie Jean]

She just, like, has the it factor. She's like, ooh, it's my back brace.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's my back brace.

It could be bitch go off.

[Natalie Jean]

I love that. You're gonna be in vogue next year.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. I mean, it's better than, like, the merkin underpants.

[Natalie Jean]

Why not? Why have it. Put it on.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I'm gonna. I, you know, underneath. Add a merkin to the back brace and it dangles down. It's a double. It's like a double piece.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, so it's chest. It's a chest piece.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, it's a chest piece that. That goes down to make you Winnie the Pooh, but then not Winnie the Pooh.

[Natalie Jean]

But you have pants on also.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

I say leave people confused about how your body works with your clothes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Where are the holes? Nobody knows.

[Natalie Jean]

Does she have functions around herself somehow? I don't know.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's not for us to know.

[Natalie Jean]

No, it's not.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh. Where are we?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

The mysteries of woman.

[Natalie Jean]

Speaking of the mysteries of woman. Actually, we're not.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No. Bryce Quinlan does keep lying, though.

[Natalie Jean]

No, but we did have a mystery of a woman at the end of last episode, which was Hypaxia showing up at the frat house. We don't know why, and we're not going to find out why just right yet. Because at the beginning of chapter 52, we're back with Tharion. So we haven't. We're kind of catching up with everybody after the submarine adventure. Okay, so now we're with Tharion. He is back with the River Queen, having reported the intel that he has received from his little underwater adventure. Some of the intel. He's not going to ever tell her.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He can't tell her everything.

[Natalie Jean]

No, he should. I wish he was giving her a kiki about the sex that he's like. And then they, like, closed the entire biodome off. And, like, it was crazy in there. Like, they recorded sound.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was nuts.

[Natalie Jean]

No, he's not telling her fun stuff.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

See, that's what it's like. Not fair, because as a river queen, I feel like nobody's sitting down and telling you the goss anymore.

[Natalie Jean]

Well, she's being. If she would be more fun, people would. She's being a big old bee.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Mm. Under cb.

[Natalie Jean]

Under cb The River Queen is contemplative as he explains everything that happened. And she's currently in her seat of river oysters. I do love that her thrones are all just different things of the sea. A river just like coral and Then just like a bunch of oysters are holding her up.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I guess it's not even. What would it just. I feel like it would just be like snakes. Like water moccasins.

[Natalie Jean]

What.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

What happens in a river? I don't know the difference between a river and ocean. I mean, I know geographically I understand what it is. Body of water wise. I just mean what's in it?

[Natalie Jean]

Is the water different shapes?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I don't know what happens down there. I just know sometimes there's like the sinkholes under. There could be under a lake or under a river. Right? Is that only under a lake?

[Natalie Jean]

I mean, there's sinkholes in the ground too.

[Sponsor Voice]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sinkholes are for everybody. Oh, God.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Not just for underwater.

[Natalie Jean]

I don't know if that's sweet.

What about snakes, though? What?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I was thinking about water moccasins. And maybe water moccasins are like a big. They're. They're a big threat in Florida. Maybe not everybody's always thinking about water moccasins, but.

[Natalie Jean]

Are you thinking about as her throne?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, I don't know what she's gonna sit on.

[Natalie Jean]

They just configure into a chair.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

That's fun. All right. Sure.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But also, maybe they like change and transform into her clothes. Sometimes I feel like. Like that's what happens with the Medusa.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You know?

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Like with a gorgon like that, every once in a while the snakes wanna come out to play and not just turn people.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. It's not always sexual. God. I'm really gonna try not to be yanking on this wig the whole time. I'm sorry, everybody. So she's sitting there taking in all of the information that he's given her. It's turned out because Therian was so embarrassed he didn't know about the submarine technology. But it turns out that these big underground cities are of the Ocean Queen are also news to the River Queen. She didn't know about them either, and she's not happy about it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

My bitch sister's doing what now?

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, so in fact, she seems downright incredulous that her sister's people have chosen to tell Tharion about the technology and.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Not her technically river queen. Even though you think he's not. He is like the head of your communication. Like he should be the one that they're telling you should have kept his.

[Natalie Jean]

Head of communication out of my daughter.

[Commercial Announcer]

Whoa.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He put it right inside her.

[Natalie Jean]

So, yeah, he. He seems.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He.

[Natalie Jean]

She's like. She's really mad. He tries to remind her that the only reason that they told him is because they had to rescue him in an emergency.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And emergency.

[Natalie Jean]

That'S just the normal word.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Just the word.

[Natalie Jean]

But I guess you could hyphenate.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, you say.

[Natalie Jean]

You say it like that. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They say it to her like that. And she's just like, jesus Christ. This is why I don't trust you.

[Natalie Jean]

This is why she's like, here, we have it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You had to say that.

[Natalie Jean]

But she's like, when he says that, he tries to tell it, say that, like, sort of, you know, you know, it's just because they saved me. And she goes, yeah, but they could have killed you, as if to say, well, that's what I would have done if you learned about my technology. So that's rough. The River Queen posits that her sister is intending to use them to take the River Queen's kingdom. She's like, why didn't she tell me? Is it because she wants my ring River? Tharion thinks that he doesn't say this, but he doubts the ocean cares about their dumb little river. Oh.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Man. Being a queen and having your sister also be like a competing queen of like a bigger body of water that has got to. You're never going to be as important as she is. I mean, the ocean, it's like we. We know a fraction about the ocean and think of all of the secrets she has. But I bet she's hotter too.

[Natalie Jean]

But sometimes you, you can just be like, well, my river's doing a lot better than your giant ocean because you can't control the entire thing. And there's trash everywhere.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Cthulhu and stuff. And like even stuff that you probably can't even know what's at the bottom.

[Natalie Jean]

You don't even know it's in there. So you could do argue that side. He tries to change the subject away from this whole thing, asking if he. If he should continue to search for em. He kind of is giving something away unintentionally there because she's like, why wouldn't.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You keep trying looking for him?

[Natalie Jean]

Because he didn't reveal that there's any discussions about a meal at all. She's like, go and find him, dummy. This has nothing to do with the intel is right. So he's like, yeah, I better go and look for him again. And so he gets to leave. He makes his exit and he swims to the surface, appearing above the water near the wolf side of town.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He'd finished tugging on the clothes he'd left in a nook of the quay near Moonwood's river gate. When wings rustled on the walkway above him, he peered over the stone rim to find Athelar standing with crossed arms. We need to talk, said the umbra Mortis.

[Natalie Jean]

So that's some. We'll find out what that means, but we're gonna cut back over to Ruhn now, which we're picking up from the end of the last chapter, who is staring at his maiden earring. Hypoxia. Well, she rang.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Rang that bell. And then you marry me because you're subjected to.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, she doesn't really want it, but they kind of seem to have to be.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I mean, we're both hot. I bet we'll have a good time at some point.

[Natalie Jean]

She is showing zero interest in Ruhn. I think Ruhn would be down.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, because she's a fucking gorgeous ice queen.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Natalie Jean]

So, you know. We're back with Ruhn staring at his maiden hypaxia, who has surprised him at his front door. He admires her beauty and note that she's smiling kindly, so it doesn't seem like it's an aggressive visit.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Whenever I'm smiling kindly, I smile with the least amount of my face as possible.

[Natalie Jean]

That's kind. You're saying that's your kind smile?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. You don't see it very often, do you, Natalie?

[Natalie Jean]

I guess not.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You should think about your life choices. What am I doing wrong?

[Natalie Jean]

Tell me.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I don't know. You're not making me smile, that's for damn sure.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, God.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Not properly.

[Natalie Jean]

Well, you know, just put them on the. Put on the pile of people and not make it smile, you know? Yeah, people.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

This badass bitch over here don't want.

[Natalie Jean]

To hear my thoughts on politics, but yet I keep seeing them.

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[Natalie Jean]

So he lets her in.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

The witch touched a knot in the wood on her broom. It was a stunning piece of art. Every inch of its handle carved with intricate designs of clouds and flowers and stars. Each twig in the base carved as well and bound together with golden thread.

[Natalie Jean]

I feel like this is something Jeff could make.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes, I definitely think he could. But also, I would really love it if he could make me a workable broom that I also could transform into, like, a sexy, busty brooch so that everybody knows that it's like, I'm so powerful, but also, I put tits on my broom as well.

[Natalie Jean]

That might take some work shopping. I don't know how the technology would go for that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You can do it.

[Natalie Jean]

Remember those things you. Those little things you used to get as a kid where it was, like, it looked like a little pill, and you put it in the water and.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It expands it like that? It would be like that, except it would be the opposite of that. So if we could do.

[Natalie Jean]

Dry it out.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, dry it out.

[Natalie Jean]

I remember getting one of those as a kid, like a really young kid at, like, a Christmas party.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And.

[Natalie Jean]

And it was a dino egg. And I was so scared. My parents were like, we're gonna go. We're gonna go open the egg. And I was convinced it was gonna be a real dinosaur.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And I was like, no, don't do that. Although now, if we thought it was a real dinosaur, I'd be like, fucking open it.

[Natalie Jean]

I know.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Let's see how it goes.

[Natalie Jean]

Let's burn everything to the ground.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I can be its mother. Let it suck my milk.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, so. So, yeah, it shrinks when she touches the. The broom. It shrinks into a little brooch, which she pins to her dress, which is so cool. She tells him it's a bit of witch magic. He thinks it's pretty cool.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I bet.

[Natalie Jean]

Before they can continue, Hypaxia notes the dragon lady in the room with some surprise.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Whoa.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. Could you tell this is an art? I'm wearing an artistic interpretation of the dragon.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Are you Ariadne?

[Natalie Jean]

I'm kind of half her because this is my dragon scales, but, like, my face is not a dragon face.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I mean, the whole thing with Ariadne is that she looks like a human, but, like, you can see the scales and the magic that surrounds. Like, how do you do that in cosplay? And I think that you did a great job.

[Natalie Jean]

Thank you. If it was, like, really good cosplay, I'd be fully nude. Airbrushed.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I was gonna say that. And I was gonna let you know I'm already disappointed in you because you are not dedicated to this show and it shows.

[Natalie Jean]

I couldn't find an airbrush pen. Is that what they're called? Gun.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Ah, I don't know.

[Natalie Jean]

So, yeah. She turns and sees this new dragon woman and asks, probably be surprised if that's a friend of his. And he's like, yeah, yeah, it's a friend of mine. All the others appear and sort of gawk at the queen and her beauty.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Natalie Jean]

All right.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

We can take this moment. Everybody get your coffee.

[Natalie Jean]

I know, I know. You have to do it. Just take a breath.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Bitch. Bitch. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

[Natalie Jean]

Yep. And. Oh, you're. Whatever you're wearing, it just breezed over. And it's a nice scent. Thank you. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So it's called wig conditioner.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh. What smells nice. Thank you. Run thinks about how she has shown kindness and bravery, but doesn't seem the slightest bit thirsty for him. So he's like. She's like. She's kind of got it going on. I'm like, this isn't a bad deal. But also. Except she's not giving me any vibes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Or also, Ruhn, it says a lot about you that you're like, I mean, I would. She definitely don't want it, but I still would.

[Natalie Jean]

I hate. It's good to have inventory just in case. And it seems like. Also, it seems like Rune's a little bit surprised that a woman doesn't find him attractive. He's like, oh, huh. Occasionally it's gonna happen.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And of course, that makes him like her more because we're all in the head.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He introduces all the degenerates in his house to her, feeling a bit embarrassed about the state of everything there. It's a frat house. She looks around, obviously a little taken aback by, I thought you were a prince. And not even in, like, a snobby way. I think she wasn't expecting him to be living like a 20 year old, you know?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, you're a little old for it.

[Natalie Jean]

And also, like, even if you don't want fancy things, you could, like, repair the broken couch. You know what I mean?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Like, you have the money to bring in somebody to at least clean it up.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. But it's almost like it's a display of his turmoil inside.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh my God, it's really deep.

[Natalie Jean]

That's what I always think when I go into disgusting houses.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I'd be like, oh, this man is so deep.

[Natalie Jean]

Unfortunately, I did think that was a.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Young mattress on the floor. He doesn't even need a bed frame.

[Natalie Jean]

He's chasing his goals.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh my God, I love this for him.

[Natalie Jean]

I mean, I lived as a degenerate myself. I can't say we all live. I live like in shitholes, so who am to say?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But you're allowed to say it though.

[Natalie Jean]

So yeah, he, he's a little embarrassed about it. And she's kind of like, oh, wow, your house. Huh.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Interesting.

[Natalie Jean]

He curses himself when he notices a half smoked mirth root blunt on the coffee table.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh God, how hot would it be if she just walked over to it and sparked it and it's just like. And then he's just like. Like.

[Natalie Jean]

It's a funny scene where he tells Ethan mind to mind to get rid of the blunt. Ethan rushes at it and he tells him not till she's not looking. And then he has to play off the reason he randomly lunged at the.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Table and have like a second of cool, bro.

[Natalie Jean]

It's very like. That's the kind of scene I, I want to see.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh.

[Natalie Jean]

Because they don't know they're having a conversation. And so he's just like.

I want to see.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

As if she wouldn't notice.

[Natalie Jean]

She's like, okay, okay, all right. And Hypaxia asked to speak with Ruhn in private. Ethan helps her usher the others out of the room, preventing Flynn from saying something mortifying on the way out, as he obviously wants to. So leaving Run and Hypaxia alone in the gross living room, he watches her sitting on the stained and dirty couch and cringes. But he tries to play it off, waiting for her to.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She's not.

[Natalie Jean]

She's being nice to him. He's feeling ashamed of himself.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sorry. Yes. We're not trying to fuck, Jackie. You have to get into the mind of a character that doesn't want to have sex with Run Dan, the high prince of the Valbaran Fae.

[Natalie Jean]

Curious. Makes you think. What's that mean, thinking?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I don't know. Never heard of it.

[Natalie Jean]

Never heard of it. So she is still coming in, seemingly on a friendly basis. So he's like, yeah, enjoy this couch that I have here. That's definitely clean.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Just imagine her sitting, being like as she goes like on all the things.

[Natalie Jean]

Pretending like she doesn't notice.

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Natalie Jean]

I love your candle that you put here.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Choices were made in here, huh? Or lack thereof.

[Natalie Jean]

So he tries to play it off, waiting for her to start speaking. She begins to ask him a favor. She tells him that she's going to be staying in town for the mating ceremony of the archangels. The equinox ball thing. Like, everybody is coming in. And she feels, however, while she's there, that she needs an escort. Or, in other words, a security guard. He asks if everything's okay. She seems hesitant to talk about it, though she does disclose that she has inherited her mother's covenant and she doesn't trust them. That's just cool.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

All of that is.

[Natalie Jean]

It is your own coven.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I know, man.

[Natalie Jean]

That's supposed to be your coven.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

What are you supposed to do? What do you do when your own community kicks you out?

[Natalie Jean]

It's hard, though, when you do the lineage stuff. It does make sense. Why Sometimes you're not trusted. Because. What? You just get this because your mom had it, like. I understand why royalty is kind of gross, you know, And I think it's fine.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think it's good for one person to have all the power, because then it, like, takes away any of the confusion.

[Natalie Jean]

And then when the next one's born, they don't have to try or, like, become empathetic or learn about the world. They just have it already.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Well, they're spare.

[Natalie Jean]

Or they're a spare.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They have one. Are you just. I'm thinking about what I could get.

[Natalie Jean]

I technically think that hypaxia is the spare despair, when we get down to it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Much. Okay, Ariadne, get back in your ring.

[Natalie Jean]

Well, we're about to find out what I mean by that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I probably could afford you if I wanted to.

[Natalie Jean]

Whoa. You can't afford.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'll buy you.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, you can't trust.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Imagine the two of them going head to head, though. Yes.

[Natalie Jean]

Watch that. Sexually or non? Sexually. Either way. Yeah. So she is telling. She's revealing to him a kind of a big secret, that she is not trusting of her coven. Like, even to the point where she's worried about her safety. She explains that while the witches were loyal to her mother and loved her mother, her mother raised Hypaxia. So Hypaxia's mom was a great coven leader. Right? But she became a little bit of a helicopter mom and raised hypaxia and solitude. And it made her not super prepared for this diplomacy role. She then reveals that even her tutors couldn't help her become socialized because why? They were all dead. Oh, cool.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, wow. Good.

[Natalie Jean]

Could other people see your ghost teachers, or was this something that you.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Were they alive when they bought you?

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. Were they. Did they become ghosts or.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, you're not gonna explain it. Okay, good, good, good, good. I feel like, though, it makes sense. Hypaxia is given homeschooled.

[Natalie Jean]

She was homeschooled.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's what it is. It's not her fault. She's just, like.

[Natalie Jean]

She's almost a little bit unschooled.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

Which is the extreme version of homeschooling.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm like a child called it.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, God. Oh, no, that's not.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Child called shit. Because on the second one, and nobody cares about me.

[Natalie Jean]

Are you. Is this from Harry's book?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. He calls himself a child called I'm Prince Harry. Child called.

[Natalie Jean]

He's still more handsome.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, he is. He can never take that.

[Natalie Jean]

No, Charles. Wait, that's. Wait, no. What's the older one's name?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

William.

[Natalie Jean]

William. He had a couple years where he was very.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He was very hot, and then he got.

[Natalie Jean]

He became.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He got Charles.

[Natalie Jean]

Doubt. He got real British.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

So, yeah, Hypaxia was raised in solitude, away from the coven, away from everyone. She was homeschooled.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

My fault.

[Natalie Jean]

Not my fault. It's not my fault.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And broken. So my fault.

[Natalie Jean]

I mean, she was homeschooled by ghosts, which seems like a lot.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Also, though, seems the. Every time you hear more about Hypaxia, talk about, like, she's up there for me with, like, a Jesiba of like and fury. Oh, yeah. Yes.

[Natalie Jean]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. It's. Everything is just another bot. Check, check, check. Yes. Want, want, want. Super cool.

[Natalie Jean]

Don't know if that's the best person to lead a group.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

But to an extent, Hypaxia's mother needed to keep her in this world because she was showing these necromancy capabilities as a kid that we've learned a little bit about. So they needed the dead to teach her. She admits that while her tutors were good to her and taught her well, they made her a little weird. A little Lydia Deets coded. Yes. The witches don't care for her spooky.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Skills, which is crazy. It's like, bitches, I'm even too. I'm too powerful for you witches.

[Natalie Jean]

That and also this. Her father's side is of flame and shadow, and the witches are earth and blood. So it's also the idea of, like, you're in a different party, different power source.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's a whole different. It's a different ball game.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. So Ruhn tries to decipher all of this. He asks her like questions because he wants to know. He's curious. He's asking her questions.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Cute.

[Natalie Jean]

He knows the leadership of the witches to be passed down. If they don't want you in the position, who else could possibly do it? She reminds him of her older sister, the Hind.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

We're nothing alike.

[Natalie Jean]

They're not alike. He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. They would prefer the Hind to lead them. Hypaxia explains that they would likely want to install her as a formality. But her mother's advisor, like her head advisor, would actually take on the leadership role. So she'd be more like a figurehead. But still it's the like, she's a horrible person. She continues that there seems to be also what I interpret as discrimination going on. The witches seem more comfortable with the idea of the Hind because she looks like their mother. In other words, pale and blonde.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Boo, boo, boo.

[Natalie Jean]

Boo.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Also, I can get a wig. Let's discuss this. No, don't change yourself. I'll definitely change myself.

[Natalie Jean]

No, don't do that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Give me an opportunity. I'll shed any piece of of respect I have for myself.

[Natalie Jean]

You don't want to be the leader of the coven, do you?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Maybe.

[Natalie Jean]

Okay, I'm sorry. My bad, my bad. She also tells him that the witches would be more comfortable with a half shifter than a half necromancer, I guess. Even if the shifter is evil.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Think about that for a moment.

[Natalie Jean]

Crazy.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But they are. They're thinking about where their power source is coming from and.

[Natalie Jean]

And weirdly superficiality things.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. And they don't trust me.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. So Hypaxia says that she considers Rune a respectable male and that she feels as though she could trust him with helping her. He points out that it would also make sense since they are betrothed, that it would be seen as a possessive kind of bro chud move that would actually work in their favor.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Natalie Jean]

Publicly, like, oh, he's just forcing this protection on her because he's like, mine. This is my property.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And no one would think like, oh, there's something going on.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. With this. She smiles and agrees with him. He chances reaching out to touch her hand and assures her that they will protect her. She pats it, which is like so rough. It's like a grandma thing you do like. Oh yeah. Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And I do love. Honestly though, cuz you never see this with run because everybody wants to run and I Love this for him.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, yeah. He asks how she feels about sunball players at the end of the section, right before we cut back to Therian, so it seems as though he's about to ask if Ethan can be her security guard. Then we come back to Tharion. He and Hunt are walking through the old square and pause near a fountain depicting.

Oginous. Hunt tells Therian about his earlier meeting with Celestina, where she has tasked him with going through data regarding the demon sightings. So he's bringing back this thing that she gave him as a task for the day. Hunt hands his phone to Tharion where there are series of photos from the report from Celestina, and one shows an image. It's basically like capturing CCTV footage of what appears to be a tail. He informs Tharion it appears to be the back of what is called a Death Stalker.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

That sounds like it's fine. I'm sure it's not going to be a problem.

[Natalie Jean]

That'd be actually a really cute name for like, a very tame, mild animal.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, my God. A really cute, Like a little bunny. Oh, my God. A little bunny or guinea pig.

[Natalie Jean]

Deathstalker.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, great.

[Natalie Jean]

Death Stalker. No, it's not a cute little thing. Apparently they are creatures bred by the Prince of the Pit, and they are vicious.

Hunt, in fact, tells Therian that he has a permanent scar from one on his back from a fight many, you know, a long time ago. And Tharion's like, oh, great, it's scarred. Han Dalar. So not good. Hunt wants to tell Tharion this so that he can have the Blue Court be aware that there might be an issue with these deathstalkers coming through. This particular set of photos from Celestina that he's showing Tharion are from the area of Nina. So it's bad enough that the Crescent City is getting alerts. These are not creatures that you want to see on Luna and Midgard. Varian senses, however, that this wasn't the only reason Hunt had sought him out. He dares to ask him if there has been any sign of a meal, which is a very secret underground thing they're doing and they shouldn't really be talking about in public.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No.

[Natalie Jean]

Hunt reveals.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Again, you're the head of communications, like, you should know this theory. I love you, babe, but, man, you just. You're not in the right position.

[Natalie Jean]

No, definitely.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And I ain't talking about being bent over my couch. Come on.

[Natalie Jean]

Woo.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Natalie Jean]

Hunt reveals to him that actually he does know where Emil is right now. But he can't tell Tharion. Hun makes it clear.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

However, it was very annoying.

[Natalie Jean]

You don't want.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You don't want him. It's actually for the best.

[Natalie Jean]

You should have been. He should have been like, you can.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Have him.

Send him underwater, right? Yeah, yeah, she can have them.

[Natalie Jean]

So he says, I'm making this clear. You need to come up with any excuse you can to give to your queen. You are done. So looking for him. We know where he is. He's safe and he is utterly off limits. Darian obviously is distraught by this.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, Hunt, you think there's gonna go. Oh, okay. Well, I guess I put this down.

[Natalie Jean]

Yep. I mean he's not definitely like that. He asks Hunt kind of threatening, like, sure you should be telling me you have this information that you know where Emil is? Hunt's like, okay, yeah, you want to fight me? I wrote fish ass.

That's silly. I don't even remember writing that you want to fight me? Fish ass. Therian starts to push back, but Hunt is like, listen, even if you wanted to fight me for this kid, I need to tell you his powers are not null. There aren't powers. He doesn't have any Thunderbird powers at all. Sophie lied. You'd be wasting your time really, given.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

All this information just out there, just hopefully to get.

[Natalie Jean]

I mean this is a Himbo move for sure. But yeah, hopefully to get there and to actually stop. And they have a form. Like they have a pre existing friendship before all this. So maybe he's trying to be a friend a little bit. Tharion guesses Bryce also knows where all of this is. Like I'm sure Hunt didn't organize all of the secrecy around Emil. And he guessed correctly that Bryce also knows. And he's kind of like, well, what if I want to go question Bryce and Hun Says he can't ask questions with no head. Therian's like, got it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Natalie Jean]

But now he's like, really screwed. He tells Hunt as much. He says, like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. The River Queen will not care if it's not Therian's fault. No.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh no, no, no.

[Natalie Jean]

She will punish him for perceived failure like this. She'll take it as like a. Her, an embarrassment.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

The last time he got punished, he had to pick up like trash off the side of the road. And I feel like last time Hunt got punished, he had his wings sawed off. So I feel like in this game that we're playing theory and I think sometimes you just gotta go fish. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. I'm. I'm really feeling my witch bitch right now.

[Natalie Jean]

Do you think that Demar people go squirrel? They. They hunt squirrels from underneath?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I hope not. You mean from the logs where they think that they're safe and then they rip off their stupid little heads and they say, got any nuts? And they pop off their tails? Yeah, that would be. Yeah, I hope they do.

[Natalie Jean]

Gone squirrel. And so, yeah, he's worried about what's gonna happen. He starts pacing, not knowing what to do. Hunt suggests that, well, maybe she'll just fire you. Right? Tharion laughs bitterly at the idea of that. Of course that's not going to happen. But then Tharion has a thought. He could just not tell her this piece of news. Oh well, today maybe not even like this year. He could just keep telling her he's really searching hard for him and just.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Keep searching for him.

[Natalie Jean]

I have to be up above the water. I have to be on land. That's where Emil's not underwater. I have to keep looking for him. Hunt laughs and agrees, and he's like, yeah, man. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, we never even had this conversation.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Tharion grinned, a thrill shooting through his bones as they entered Moonwood's tree lined streets. It was a dangerous game, but he'd play it milk every second of freedom he could from this. Stay above as often as he liked, so long as he checked in below every now and then.

[Natalie Jean]

Got any ideas where it can crash?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Uh, I think we got a big old crash pad full of sprites, full of dragons, full of mirth root. Bitch. Come on by.

Who are you being, you know, I don't know.

[Natalie Jean]

Through the house.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think I was. I think I was being like the. The porch anthropomorphized.

[Natalie Jean]

Can you it?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, you can.

[Natalie Jean]

We're with ethan at chapter 53. And he's now in the room. This is shortly after Run and Hypaxia have discussed this whole security thing. And then Rune goes, how do you feel about Sunbelt players now? They've called Ethan in to explain everything.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, God. And she just looks him up and down like this. We're doing this.

[Natalie Jean]

He is already kind of aware what's going on because he's got wolf hearing. And so he picked up on their conversation while they were having it in the first place. And he knows he's going to be asked to watch over Hypaxia. But all you can think about is getting his hands on that big old necromancy magic to wave high at his big brother.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Dead brother. My brother is dead. And I need to complain and I need to fuck up everybody's life because of it.

[Natalie Jean]

I know it's traumatic if your sibling dies of go.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm not making fun of that situation. I'm making fun of this wolf, this boy, this one.

[Natalie Jean]

I feel as though the brother that he's so desperate to find would think they are stupid, stupid decisions.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. I think Connor would be like, there are so many other things going on right now that you should probably pay attention to those.

[Natalie Jean]

So he's not going to. So he's like, I mean, sure, if.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Necromancy did exist and Henry did die, of course I would try to bring him back to life and I wouldn't care what kind of version he came back with, and I wouldn't care. Natalie.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, so pet Sematary style, rip out.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Your teeth and consume them. If that's what love takes. Wait, that's what love gets?

[Natalie Jean]

You're willing to let me get ripped apart? Yes. Thank you.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's great that you're. That's your love. Like, that's. I mean, I can't be a part of this. You know, he needs your teeth to survive.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, good. I barely. There's only, like, half of my teeth are real at this point, so I don't know what he's going to get out of it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

This is good. And then you'll be able to get big veneers.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm gonna do a Cheryl Hines, Natalie Chompers gene.

[Natalie Jean]

So he's. So, yeah, he's. Both Hypaxia and Rune are staring at him because he's asking about necromancy and they've proposed the position to him. He's not saying anything about it. Instead, he asks, so you're like. Like a necromancer and.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Bro. Bro. You Think you're the first person that has asked me to use my necromancy to go get somebody, love.

[Natalie Jean]

Can you call my brother?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh. Oh, we can. I don't know where he is.

[Natalie Jean]

Can you find my brother?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And I have the find my iPhone, but like, I can't find it on there.

[Natalie Jean]

I need to find my brother button. Do you have one of those?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No. I guess if Henry was ripped to shreds, I probably would have some trauma hypaxia.

[Natalie Jean]

But I sadly, I feel like you'd handle it better than this.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Natalie Jean]

Hypaxia watches him with her own sadness. She senses that he wants to make contact with Connor for more than the simple sorrow. Ethan is not sure what he is allowed to reveal to her. But Ruhn cuts him off and asks Hypaxia what she knows about what happens to souls after they reach the bone quarter. So Ethan didn't know if he could tell her that or not. And Rune kind of jumps in big brother style.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And her face paled.

[Natalie Jean]

You learned of the Second Light.

So she knows about it. Seems like a lot of people know and are not telling other people.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I think it's probably not a big thing that they really want getting out everywhere.

[Natalie Jean]

Run confirms that they have learned of it. He explains that Ethan wants to warn Connor of this truth and that Ethan and Rune will help her either way, but would appreciate if she helped Ethan. Have they considered if they just. What if they just dress up Flynn in a. Like a sheet and be like, I'm Connor?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Natalie Jean]

Thank you for the information.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Workshop this. Let him go through this. Work through the trauma.

[Natalie Jean]

No, just don't tell Ethan. Just tell him it's gone.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Tell him it's Connor. And he would just be like, oh my God. Where'd you get that sheet from?

[Natalie Jean]

It's. They give them out to us after you die.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Wow. Do you have a different one for every day of the week? No, I don't.

[Natalie Jean]

Okay, Ethan, listen, I.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Do you get any necklaces that match with them?

[Natalie Jean]

No, Ethan, we don't get necklaces. I have to tell you that I am gonna go die happily ever after and stop calling me now. Goodbye.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, okay. Bye.

[Natalie Jean]

Maybe it would work.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They haven't tried it yet.

[Natalie Jean]

They haven't. So basically Ruhn says, we'll help you either way, but she would appreciate it. Ethan thinks about how surprised he is at what a good male Ruhn is. He only had these preconceived notions about the Fae prince before meeting him. And really, here Ruhn is acting Like Ithan's big brother. He's really kind of stepping into that role.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He's good at being a brother.

[Natalie Jean]

It's almost like you can just face the world, the living world, and be with Ruhn can be like a companion to you in that way.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Nope. Raise the dead. Nevermind. Raise the dead. I don't care what. It does raise the dead for me.

[Natalie Jean]

Rune, if you were considered putting on like some of Connor's clothes, could you like try them on?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh God. He just shows up at Bryce's door dressed like Connor, being like.

Did you want to kiss me? No.

[Natalie Jean]

No. Rune.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh.

[Natalie Jean]

Run.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, well, don't show up at Bryce's house if. I know you're really trying to sell this to Ethan, but I don't know if that's worth it.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh God. Yeah, we all have to live in his delusion to keep him from going insane.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

That's the rest of these books. It's just living in Ethan's delusion now. Trying to make sure he doesn't crash.

[Natalie Jean]

Out the Andy Richter character from throwing 30 rock. I don't know why I'm referencing all these movies or shows now. What I'm talking.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, you should stop that.

[Natalie Jean]

I'm sorry. So Hypaxia agrees to try and help Ethan. She tells him that the best chance to reach Connor is to do a ritual on the autumnal equinox when the veil is sinist, also known as Halloween.

He looks at Ruhn watching Hypaxia and thinks about how Ruhn's lucky he got strapped to such a stone cold fox. Then Ruhn asks how Hypaxia feels about dragons. She's like, the one here, this one, this one.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm like, she's sitting right here. So why am I being brought up? Bring up the dragon in the room. Come on.

[Natalie Jean]

Come on out. Rune's like, hey, yeah, you know, you could have multiple security guards. There's maybe a way we can wiggle out of like a battle with the, you know, flame and shadow people by saying the fae needed to take the dragon to protect the queen apparent to the witches.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So you needed to go into somebody's owned slave ring and take that.

[Natalie Jean]

Nobody's in the good here. Nobody's in the stretch. It's very. It's quite a stretch. We cut over to Bryce, who is leaving work that evening. She has delayed going home and facing Hunt for as long as possible. So they're still in their fight and they haven't spoken since they did the. Fine, fine. I'm going to Work fine. And so she's been at the office since them.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Just like, that's the worst. When you have to go to work and then, like, you don't get any text during the day. Like, you don't have any connection during the day. Yeah. And then you got to go home, be like, ugh, you had a whole.

[Natalie Jean]

Long workday, and you're like, now I can't even relax, deal with my emotions. So she stays so long, it's like they're going to start asking her what she's doing in there. So she's like, I got to get out of here. I got to go. When. So she starts to leave the building, locking up for the night, when she spots him leaning on a car. Traffic and people passing by like he's Jake Ryan from Sixteen Candles. Still one of the hottest teen movie leads ever.

Remember that scene when she walks out?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I think we all. I think that scene was burned into a lot of our memories. Just thinking, it's that move. It's the leaning on the car. It's also the, like, the leaning over, like, on the wall, like, over you. It's like those. There's certain moves that when, like, you're with someone that is, like, bigger than you, like, like that hulking kind of presence. And I feel like that and just like watching all the people move and then just hunt. Athelar leaning up against the car.

[Natalie Jean]

Or Jake Ryan or whoever.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

Whoever it is. Honestly, he could.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Ryan didn't have any lightning.

[Natalie Jean]

Jake Ryan could have played Hanathalar back in the day.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, back then. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm holding out for Joe Mangan Canelo, but.

[Natalie Jean]

Oh, I could see that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes, me too.

[Natalie Jean]

I could. He could at least be in the world of Lunathian. For sure. Somebody big. I forgot that guy was also in Mermaids, but I looked him up after I was thinking about the actor.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Things like, only know him as Jake Ryan.

[Natalie Jean]

No, he did a very little. He stopped acting young. But he was mer. He wasn't mermaids. I looked him up because I was like, oh, what's he doing now? He is 64. 5 years old.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So how does that make you feel, Natalie?

[Natalie Jean]

Vigorous and youthful, certainly.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Right, Jake.

[Natalie Jean]

Right.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He's very.

[Natalie Jean]

God, he's so handsome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, God. Leaning on the car.

[Natalie Jean]

Yep.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sorry. Now I'm just looking at pictures of stills from a movie from 30, 40 years ago.

[Natalie Jean]

It was from. Yeah, it's from 1984. So when we were watching, it was already old, technically. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So it was already Old, so that's because we're very young, so we were so like. Like, we were.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's so weird to think that he's 65, but. Okay. But he. He quit Hollywood actually not long after that, and he became a woodworker, which is exactly what a hunk does.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Wow.

[Natalie Jean]

It works out.

[Sponsor Voice]

Wow.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He got even hotter.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, he became a woodworker. He has a beautiful wife and children. And how beautiful. She was a model, I think. Oh, yeah, that's pretty. There's very few photos of him available online now, but he's.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Wow.

[Natalie Jean]

You know, he's still got.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, he still got it. Oh, he could still get it.

[Natalie Jean]

Anyway.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, he could still get it.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Anyway, back to the.

[Natalie Jean]

Anyway.

She notes that Hunt is wearing his backwards sunball cap and she can't resist him in it. And me thinks he knows that he came trying to be a little seductive.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's working.

[Natalie Jean]

She walks towards him and he pushes off the car so that they meet on the sidewalk.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Hey.

[Natalie Jean]

They do that little dance after a fight of. Oh, hi. Hello. Oh, yeah, I'm fine. How are you doing?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Well, I didn't know you would be here.

[Natalie Jean]

That's weird.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's like, definitely new.

[Natalie Jean]

But she asks what he wants, and he says that he needs to look something up in the archives. She says, the archives are closed. And he says, I wasn't expecting you to stay inside for so long. So they're kind of being a little standoffish still. He suggests that she can sweet talk them back into the building.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

So she's still kind of irritated. She does turn and lead him back towards the front of the building. She turns to question him again about what he's. What he needs to study, and he gestures to the camera, tells her they can talk inside.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, Bryce. Two hours later, Secrets over here. Yeah. Think about it for a second.

[Natalie Jean]

So once they're in there, he explains to her that he needs to look up some old manuscripts on demons and doesn't really explain further. So she kind of gives him some distance, lets him, like, sets him up at a desk and kind of does her own thing for a couple hours until finally she's like, what is he doing? And seeks him out. He's still in the same spot that she sat him in where he's looking over these texts.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Bad for the legs, though. You got to get up, move around.

[Natalie Jean]

Yep. She sits across from him in another chair on the other side of the desk. The demons he'd shown Tharion are a bad sign. So basically he starts to break down a little bit about what he's learned and what Celestina asked of him. And not only are these death stalkers visible, it seems that there are reports of multiple of them being cited. That they are incredibly dangerous.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Maybe they're just having a party.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, deathstalker party. Their parties involve killing many people.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Who are we to judge somebody else's good time?

[Natalie Jean]

I feel like we can judge it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

All right, this one. We'll judge this one.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, we'll judge it. Okay. So the last time he saw so many of them present in Lunatheon had been during the attack that past spring. And it's as though they are gathering here again.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She casually extended her foot beneath the table, drifted it up Hunt's muscled leg.

[Natalie Jean]

And now they need a big, tough angel to dispatch them back to Hell.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He slammed his legs together, trapping her foot. His eyes lifted to hers. Lightning sparked there.

[Natalie Jean]

So she's starting to try to seduce him. And he doesn't really bite at the flirtation. Although he, you know, is being cute. Like, this is another scene I would totally want to see. He tells her he believes it's a sign of Hell's armies ramping up. So he's got her foot trapped between his knees. During this, he tells her that he needs to think of a way of warning Celestina without revealing Bryce's connection to the princes. So he wants to make sure that people would be prepared if this is happening. But they can't reveal all of their many secrets.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, but how do you reveal part of it without revealing all of it?

[Natalie Jean]

I don't know.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Uh oh.

[Natalie Jean]

She starts to move her foot around on his knee, and you know he loves them toes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, no.

[Natalie Jean]

He tells her he can't think when she does that. She's like, good. That's the point. But he wants to know first if the package that Fury took was dropped off safely at her parents. She confirms that the package is safe. As they discuss the events of the day, including Hunt's meeting with Tharion, Bryce continues to trace her foot along his knees. He grabs her foot, but presses her on, considering what the prince's pets are doing on their planet. So she's trying to get something going, and he's like, we need to also talk about this.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And she's like, but we need to make up. And it's the only way we're going to make up, because Lord knows we're not going to communicate our way through it.

[Natalie Jean]

Sorry, sorry.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Too hot for that.

[Natalie Jean]

Bryce contends that they can't really do anything that's too drastic. Unless they figure out how to rip open the northern rift more.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. So just fuck me instead.

[Natalie Jean]

Because the way that they all got through was opening of the gates last time. They don't really have this big entrance way. Hunt worries allowed that the princes are going to try to use Bryce and the horn in some way to make the rift open bigger. But he also can't ignore Bryce's seductions any longer.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Honeymoon phase.

[Natalie Jean]

He wonders to her how high her foot was going to go.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She looks imagine her just like stamping on his dick like there. This is how far up.

[Natalie Jean]

Some. Some gentlemen like it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No judgments.

[Natalie Jean]

She looks over and suggests they check out a book in the aisle over there. He's like, okay. They walk into a more shadowy part of the archives.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

And she feels him wrap his arm around her waist from behind.

They begin to flirt but are also still kind of at the end of their fight. He tells her that she drives him crazy. She asks if he's still mad. He tells her that he needed time to process everything she told him and that he is sorry. And honestly, I think she should have said it first.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think she should have said it first.

[Natalie Jean]

But he did. But also now that he's been activated, I imagine he'll literally say anything.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean right now. Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

Sorry.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. I'm over it. I'm over it. Who cares?

[Natalie Jean]

He began to kiss her. As he explains he was hurt because he thought that they were a team. She says that they are, but that she wasn't sure that he would think a human boy was worth all of the stuff she was doing. He turns her to face him and look her. Looks her in the eye, clearly hurt by this.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You mean. You think that, like, I wouldn't want you to kill a bunch of people just so one human boy could live.

[Natalie Jean]

It's like. It's like Greenlands. Not to bring up Greenland again, man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Greenland did a number on the two of us. We think about it. Does anybody else think about the movie Greenland as much as our? Just me, you, I think. And Henry. Three of us think about it all the time.

[Natalie Jean]

All the time. And this is very similar in that many people were killed in order to save one.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

One boy. I'm not saying I'm not pro kid death here. I just feel like. I feel like this is part of. We should be talking about these things.

[Natalie Jean]

Probably.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And he shouldn't have apologized first. No.

[Natalie Jean]

And also like, the reason he's hurt is that she's suggesting she Wasn't sure if he thought a human life was valuable or not. And that he's very hurt by that. Yes, I. Yes. The hurt in his eyes finally gets her to say that she's sorry that she's doubting him and sorry for not telling him. Internally, she feels really awful and acknowledges into herself that she really messed up. So that's the least. The very least you could do.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

She breaks down all the other parts that she had kept from him. So she, like, kind of reveals more of the information she had from him at this point. How with the adoption, Randall's son, priest friend, helped him forge adoption papers that she won't be telling anyone else in Lunathion about where Emil is. And that after the shock and worry for Bryce faded that this was all happening, Ember then became super excited for a new son and God, Amber, that they changed.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm sorry. I just love Ember so much.

[Natalie Jean]

Love her. That his name has been changed to Cooper Sulaco. Which, I'm sorry, not for any Coopers out there. I don't mean to throw shade.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I just feel like this is another thing that. Yeah, I am putting this on them that I feel like they didn't even ask him. They're like, yeah, he looks like a Cooper. Oh, yeah, Fucking Cooper. Don't ask him.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, they don't. They don't really seem to ask for his consent on that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No. He's 11. He. He barely has an opinion.

[Natalie Jean]

11 year olds should be allowed to rename themselves, of course, called, like, Minecraft guy.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sure. Honestly, Deathstalker. That would be. I would completely understand if Emil wanted to change his name to Deathstalker and we would allow it.

[Natalie Jean]

Honestly, that's badass name.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. And also, you don't have any powers, so you may as well have a name that sounds really scary.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, sure.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And that's why I'm gonna start going by Kill Razorbatch. That's my new name.

So.

[Natalie Jean]

Sure you don't want to workshop that a little?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'll. I'll think about it. I'll just. Honestly, I'm only gonna workshop it. Just see if I can find anything that rhymes.

[Natalie Jean]

Okay, well, we'll come back to that. So she also reveals that she had worked all of this out through her own fight with her mother. Remember those scenes we saw where they were sending postcards back and forth? And she explained it was like this thing she did growing up, they'd also actually learned a special code for emergencies thanks to Randall, and she was giving those codes in these postcards. All of this stuff leading up to them getting a hold of of Emile was discussed through these codes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I feel like Sophie and Emile should have done the same goddamn thing. But maybe Sophie was too busy to teach him any kind of code words.

[Natalie Jean]

I don't know if without military training, how do you. You learn how to teach a code system?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You look at a Morse and you get a Morse. I'm like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Hey, Natalie, I need a cup of milk.

[Natalie Jean]

Is that what you just said?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I said with Morse.

[Natalie Jean]

Said it with Morse.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. It's dots. It's darts.

[Natalie Jean]

If anybody knows what she actually just said, please let us know. So he's so impressed by her dastardly skills that he tells her he loves her even though she's crazy and, quote, shady as hell. That's all Bryce needs to hear before she drags him into another episode of Dudes Grappling With Erotica.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Honk, honk. Give me it. Give me it. Give me that dick. Is that the theme song? Is there a theme song for Dudes Grappling with Erotica?

[Natalie Jean]

Well, there is now. It's that since that sound. Right. So after a scene that I personally enjoy very much.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

That you'll hear. We are back with Ruhn, who's asleep and being called by Day. So they finish out their library situation.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Natalie Jean]

Or I'm sorry, their archive situation. And then we cut back over to Ruhn. He had fallen asleep in the living room as all of the sleeping arrangements are kind of still being figured out with all of these new roommates they have. So he was like, just like, passed out on his couch when he was.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, my God. He. My fucking house. You guys sleep on the couch. But you know what? He's too good for that. He wouldn't do that.

[Natalie Jean]

It's too good. And he is fast asleep when he hears Day calling to him. He opens his eyes to find himself on the bridge and he says, hey. When he spots her on her now always present couch across from his. Their last interaction had been a little awkward, if you'll recall where he had laid his head upon her lap. And then she got spooked by something when he came near her. Day is business Day, apparently. And immediately launches into updates. She has intel that Pippa Spetsos is going to go after both the Veneer and the rebels she believes, she believes have infiltrated and are opposing her after the debacle on the island. What if Day is Pippa Spetsos?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, my God. Secretly a Veneer Pippa's against her own doings. Man, ain't that a woman for you, huh?

[Natalie Jean]

Voting against her own interest.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Women out here. That's why you got to tell them what to do.

[Natalie Jean]

Yep.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They can't choose for themselves.

[Natalie Jean]

No, obviously it's not Pippa, since I just gave it as an option, but Day says Pippa is planning on something really big and really violent. She asks him to pass this information along to those he works with in Crescent City in case her attack is planned for their, you know, area. He asks how Day knows this information, and she tells him that it is none of his concern.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I mean, it's a little bit of.

[Natalie Jean]

My concern, but at the same time, she's not supposed to be revealing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She just needs to share the information that is necessary, and he's asking it.

[Natalie Jean]

On a more intimate level.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He just had his head in her lap. I know.

[Natalie Jean]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I. I think that, like, I don't even. I think must have been at least a year before I put. Of dating, before I put my head in a partner's lap. Like, that's not. It's such a vulnerable.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah, I guess. I guess I've done that. I just can't remember doing that. I'm sure I have.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Natalie Jean]

I'm sure I have at some point.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Everybody get out there, Stick that head in the crotch of your partner tonight and see if it draws you closer to them romantically.

[Natalie Jean]

So the back part.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, back part.

[Natalie Jean]

The front part. For other stuff, if you'd like. Or. It's up to you.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Whatever you do while you're down there is up to you. We're not saying what to do.

[Natalie Jean]

We're not telling you what to do with your bed. Whoa. Don't do that over there.

So he gets sort of offended when she does that sort of cold response and asks if they're back to the cold treatment after a bedtime story.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Remember all this? Like, there once was a. She loved a boy and it was at a bridge.

[Natalie Jean]

Yeah. She just says.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Says exactly.

[Natalie Jean]

What's Just saying.

[Sponsor Voice]

Us.

[Natalie Jean]

Are you.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Writing down notes about what we do and what we say.

[Natalie Jean]

So she tells him to chalk that entire situation up to a moment of insanity. And like, ouch.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

All right.

[Natalie Jean]

But he's not deterred. He's not buying the cold shoulder bit. He tells her that he didn't see anything when he came near her because that's when she got spooked, when he got too close to her face. And he's like, I didn't see anything. And I also don't even care about seeing your face. That Brun likes her anyway and feels like he can be himself in front of her.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He rose from his couch and crossed to hers. He leaned against the arm of the sofa, peering down at her blazing face.

[Natalie Jean]

See, I think you like me too.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She shot to her feet and he.

[Natalie Jean]

Backed away a step so she doesn't really back away. In fact she starts to move forward towards him after she stands up oh.

So close that their chests are bumping.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Heaving bosoms.

[Natalie Jean]

So they're both a little fired up. But she's harsh, telling him that this is a war where people will lose their lives. It's not an excuse to flirt, but can't you do both? This angers Run of course he knows the cost of war. She gets angry in return telling him he knows nothing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Jon Snow oh my God that but.

[Natalie Jean]

She'S basically like you don't know anything. She says that he doesn't understand real sacrifice and that's a real big assumption there day you don't know anything about him.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Anything about him.

[Natalie Jean]

He defends himself, but he feels stung by her words because he probably it's like the kind of insult where like it's too real to how you feel about yourself, you know, and you're just like no.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh that's a long sting on it.

[Natalie Jean]

Long. That's got a big old sting on it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'll say back that b ass up.

[Natalie Jean]

And partly, you know, he doesn't think much of himself. So they begin to shout at one another. She tells him so what? Your father's a monster.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So is mine.

[Natalie Jean]

Then he doesn't that if he doesn't heed caution he will end up giving away his soul, even end up dead.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Run says so he shrugged.

[Natalie Jean]

I'm nobody.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He said it was the truth. Everything he was the worth by which the world defined him, it had all been given to him by pure luck of being born into the right family.

[Natalie Jean]

Again. This is a self awareness that if inevitably had that self awareness would be a very healthy thing and then you can work off of that. And so this isn't even a bad thing to say he was born into the right family and that he kind of feels weird about that because then you can develop yourself on top of that. But he's never feel like that. They're always just like I am special. I'm the most special that's ever been.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But it's why all Nepo babies should be eternal because then it gives them to like they're like 2 or 300. And then they can be like, oh.

[Natalie Jean]

No.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm the problem. Oh God, they just need more time to stew.

[Natalie Jean]

I would only allow that for Vivian, Elon Musk's daughter. That's the only one should be allowed. So he feels about 2ft tall after her, kind of calling him out in a way she didn't even probably mean to, but it's like a cut to the quick of him. And he thinks about how even Bryce had kept her power secret to give him a false sense of importance.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, now you're just going down the bad brain rabbit hole.

[Natalie Jean]

He's getting bad brain for sure. Everything had come from a name alone. He thinks about how worthless he really is. He wonders who he even is.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Not a king. His father wasn't a fucking king either. Not in the way that mattered. Message received, he said to Day. Night. Ruhn opened his eyes. The living room was dark, the TV off. Ethan presumably long gone to sleep. Ruhn turned over on the couch, tucking his arms behind his head and staring at the ceiling, watching beams of headlights drift across it from passing cars. Who the fuck was he? Prince of Nothing.

[Natalie Jean]

No, Rune, you're the prince of my loins.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Maybe you're the king of wishful thinking.

King of wishful.

I sing it as he's watching the headlights drift.

[Natalie Jean]

Hello Rune, you're the prince of my pain.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

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