In episode 171 of the Magick & Alchemy podcast, hosts Kate Belew and Kristin Lisenby interview Charlie Claire Burgess. Charlie is a queer and trans-nonbinary author and artist working at the intersection of spirituality and queerness. In this conversation, they discuss queer deities, word witchery as devotion, tugging on the threads of stories, and working with fantasy as a portal. Charlie gives advice on embracing the words "Word Witch" or "writer," and also speaks about creative rituals. They discuss tarot, the card of the year for 2026, and the importance of knowing how to fall and how to get back up to fight again.

To learn more about Charlie, visit their website, follow them on Instagram and Substack, and find their latest books and decks here.

Sources & Shoutouts:

Queer Devotion: Spirituality Beyond the Binary in Myth, Story, and Practice, Charlie Burgess

The Gay Marseille Tarot

“Learning How to Fall: Or, How Getting Relentlessly Thrown on My Ass Helped Me Learn to Love the Wheel” - Queerly Devoted Substack

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