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Justin Jackson's back! It took us a while to put Round 2 (and ourselves, frankly) out there for this one. And some of you may be shocked to hear our stories.

In this episode, we share the toughest battle each of us have faced—the sort of challenges that remind us we all have a cross to bear in life.

Justin's a former Marine gunship pilot turned entrepreneur. He served 25 years in uniform and still misses his Cobra (they wouldn't let him keep it). He shares more this round about his time as a Marine pilot, the toll of multiple deployments, and the transition to civilian life,

Then it gets heavy. We discuss trauma, PTSD, depression, addiction, and emotional numbness.

You'll hear our life-changing experience with psychedelic therapies—specifically the role psilocybin and ibogaine have played in our roads to recovery. Our plant medicine journeys helped us to heal, to rediscover gratitude in its highest form, and ultimately reconnect with the Divine.

Justin & I have a passion for helping people, whether through candid conversations like ours, veteran advocacy, or simply pointing those in desperate need of help toward a proven cure that's given us our lives back.

If one person hears this episode and gets help, we'll consider this discussion our biggest success of 2025.