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the truth behind the texting drama at Inter Alia | why Rosamund Pike spoke out after her performance
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the question of the day is did Rosamund pike make the right choice when she publicly criticized an audience member at the West End play, inter alia, for using their mobile phone during the performance while preserving their anonymity as part of the show's curtain call? Or instead, ought she have thrown something? Perhaps she could have leapt from the stage, clambered over the first few rows of the stalls, grabbed the person and physically removed them from the auditorium. Or at the very least, seized their mobile phone and confiscated it until Further notice, or perhaps indefinitely. For much of the play, she uses a wired microphone. Perhaps she could have lassoed it over her head, arced it perfectly to collide with the mobile phone, knocking it from the culprit's hands, with the microphone, completing its revolution perfectly back into her own hands on stage, at which point she screams into it, that is what you get. So, you know, which should she have done? I'm just saying there were options, it seems. Tiny people in my camera. We are once more bound for a conversation about theatre etiquette. Oh my God. Hey, welcome to my theatre themed YouTube channel. Or hello to those of you listening to this on podcast platforms. My name is Mickey Jo and I am obsessed with all things theatre, even when it forces me to have this particular conversation again and again and again. I am, if you don't know, a theatre critic and a pundit and a content creator here on social media. And I a few days ago was actually given the scoop that this had happened moments after the end of this particular performance, because a friend of mine was at this performance of Inter Alia when Rosamund pike, after a performance of Inter Alia at the Wyndham's Theatre in the West End, returned to the stage post curtain call and without singling them out, criticized an audience member who was texting on their phone, who seemed to be texting on their phone during a particularly vulnerable moment towards the end of the play. And my friends sent me a lot of details about what it was that Rosamund had said about the reaction to this from within the auditorium and the response. And curiously, perhaps unsurprisingly, the response beyond the theater has been a little more varied as this has been reported on sizably, and this happens often, we see a lot of these sort of flashpoint news stories about particularly a list actors calling out bad behavior in theatre. And evidently, if I'm creating content for theatre fans online, you would presume I am for the most part preaching to the choir when it comes to good theatre etiquette and behavior. However, I still think that this merits some convers and exploration. And if anything, whenever these stories get covered in the national press, I like to come on here and explain it a little more from the perspective of a theatre person because they aren't always diligently reported on. So we're going to see what's being said about this in the media, we're going to talk about some of the commentary that I've seen. I'm going to let you know what I had heard prior to all of this happening and we are going to definitively answer the question, does something more need to be done about mobile phones at the theatre? I'll be letting you know my thoughts, but as always I would love to hear yours. Comment with all of your thoughts and feel about this particular topic in the comments section down below. And if you would like to hear more of my perspectives on theatre in the West End and beyond, make sure to subscribe here on YouTube. Turn on notifications so that YouTube lets you know every time I share a new video, whether it's theatre news or a review. You can also find me on podcast platforms, other social media apps, and for my weekly musings on everything that I've seen in a week, as well as a collation of every piece of content that I've shared. You can sign up to my free weekly email substack newsletter, but with nothing further to plug, let's talk about Rosamund pike versus the audience of Inter alia
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Okay, so the BBC reported on this two days ago. I have faith in the BBC to have done so conscientiously. Let's give it a read. The headline is thus Rosamund pike calls out audience member for texting during show. This from Paul Glynn, culture reporter, and Ewan Somerville, BBC News. On 1 June, Rosamund pike called out an audience member for texting during an emotional moment from her performance in West End play into Alia on Saturday, saying, when I feel that and see it, it's hard immediately. There is some familiarity to the comments made by Leslie Manville a few weeks ago about being filmed or photographed during the curtain call during the bows. The actor and producer Rosamund pike returned to the stage at the end of the play at the Wyndham's Theatre to politely remind people of theatre etiquette and I believe she asked that her comments there not be filmed. But there have been some videos of this on social media and the comments were made in such typical, polite Rosamund pike fashion. And while she clearly felt very passionately about this, in comparison with many other examples of this that we've seen of actors criticizing audience members from the stage, this was considerably more calm, cool and collected. Pike said she hoped the guilty texter was a doctor and that their message had been very important. Important during an impromptu speech which drew gasps and then cheers. This is what I'd heard as well, is that there was a lot of support from within the auditorium. But in this setting there is always going to be. When you hear this reported on subsequently, it's understandable that people would then consider it from different angles, especially a non theater crowd, she said. I just wanted to say for anyone going to the theater, it's a huge thing that we're trying to give you. I am trying to tell you a story and I'm feeling you and I hope you're feeling me too. What she was kind of getting at here was that she feels as though she is holding the audience and taking custody of their emotional journey during this production. It's relevant to point out here they go on to say that earlier this year Rosamund pike won the Olivier Award for Best Actress for her role as Jessica Parks, a London Crown Court judge who sees her work and family life collide in, inter alia, good little bit of press for the show there, which is also heading to Broadway later this year. But worth pointing out, though this is not a one person performance, it is not dissimilar. There are entire lengthy passages of this play during which Rosamund pike is alone on stage and doing an awful lot, taking care of multiple different things and carrying the audience solely on this story, portraying multiple different characters, and that can feel like an incredibly exposing thing to do in front of a large multi tier West End audience. As such, I think there has to be more understanding here of the emotional response that she is going to have when she sees someone texting in the audience. If you know the play, inter alia, the moment when this happened is also towards the very end and she is playing a scene alongside a younger actor. It's possible that she felt some concern for him as well, being newer to the industry, and she felt some kind of obligation on his behalf. Clearly these were strong feelings that emerged during that moment and were retained until the curtain call, such that she felt as though she needed to speak about it publicly and remind that audience. We have a few more details about it here. After asking the audience not to film her speech, pike addressed a certain broad section of the stalls, the seats closest to the stage, which had distracted her during a crucial scene. You know who you are and I'm not going to single you out, she said, deeply ironic that this whole thing is filled with exact quotes from the speech that she asked not be recorded and is now being talked about everywhere. But I think, you know, saying that this happened is to some extent in solidarity with the message she was trying to convey, even if, you know, people didn't respect her wishes. But yes, she was kind enough not to individually persecute the person who she perceived to be responsible. I do have questions not to undermine what she said here, because you can tell quite clearly when someone is looking at their phone, doing things, to what extent it was clear that this person was texting or communicating. There are so many different reasons why people use their phone now, and messaging in whatever capacity is not necessarily at the top of my list of things that might be happening, though it's one of the better excuses, if indeed there are any, for using your phone in the theater. If I see someone sending a text message, perhaps it's an older person texting a younger relative. I might still roll my eyes a little, but it's not nearly as maddening as if I see someone swiping on TikTok during a performance, like in the middle of a performance. That's insane to me, carrying on. The audience were irritated and annoyed that someone had been on their phone and gasped during the speech before cheering and applauding when it was over. The BBC understands an audience member who witnessed Pike's speech and who wished to remain anonymous, applauded the actress for her intervention, telling BBC News, at the end of, inter alia, an incredibly moving and thought provoking play, Rosamund pike came back on stage alone. I assumed she would announce a charity collection, but we were stunned to hear her berate an audience member in the front of the stalls who had been texting throughout the final, most moving scene. And you would assume not always the case, but you would assume that by virtue of their being in the front of the stalls, they had paid one of the theatre's higher ticket prices. Which is interesting because too often I think these conversations about poor theatre etiquette are connected to alcohol and to a sense of riff raff and to a sort of classist conversation about the kind of people who bring poor behavior into this important, prestigious cultural space. And just as often you do, I think, in my experience at least, tend to witness a lot of very entitled behavior from patrons who are frequent theater goers and who are paying those higher ticket prices. The audience was suitably appalled, as this eyewitness goes on to say, although next to us a gentleman had an apple watch going off constantly and the couple behind me talked through the whole show, evidently multiple problems happening. And this is just one evening in one auditorium of many in the West End alone, before we consider the theatre etiquette problems happening around the world. We have known for some time, especially since theaters reopened after the pandemic shut down, that there have been many instances, many documented instances of unfortunate poor audience behavior. To some extent, I do feel as though it was this period of shutdown and isolation not only made it a little harder for us to reconnect to those spaces where we have forced shared intimacy with strangers, but also, and I noticed this in my classrooms when I was teaching back at the time, there was among students who had gone into lockdown at such an early formative stage in their lives. This eagerness to be able to control everything in their immediate environment and pre 2020 and Covid, they would begrudgingly put their phones away when asked to after the fact, even trying to tell them that a packet of crisps couldn't be out on the table and could it go back into a bag, suddenly became a needless confrontation. But I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I do want to talk about phones. I also want to talk about these Apple watches. But let's finish this article first. The part when the person was on their phone was the hardest bit of the play, where a serious admission is made on stage, the audience member told us that is very much the truth. She added, I wholeheartedly applaud Rosamund for her speech where she didn't directly identify the person, but did explain at length the impact on an actor if someone is on their phone, and presumably, you know, if you are that person, you are feeling unspeakably embarrassed at that point, and the people in your immediate vicinity are going to know that it was you that she was talking about. So there's no need to to specifically identify the individual and call them out. It is more about the concept, the idea of the thing, and it sounds as though they weren't the only person behaving poorly. They were just the most proximal to the stage. Addressing the debate around phones in theaters more broadly, this is back to the Lesley Manville conversation. She said she was still totally behind audiences filming the bows at the end and supported the idea that people should be able to capture curtain calls. She pointed out that many shows already film and share the bows online, and for parents of child actors, it may be the only footage they'll ever have of their children on a West End stage. I hadn't thought about that, but she said there is absolutely no excuse for a phone during a show, as in an emergency you can simply leave the auditorium to deal with the issue. And there are some interesting comments here that expand on the potential reasons why someone might need to use their mobile phone in an auditorium. There are also examples of other recent instances. Cynthia Erivo notably interrupted her recent performance of Dracula after spotting an audience member feature filming, which is a completely different conversation. It's one thing to be on your phone and distracting those around you and sort of break the communion with the actors telling a story live on stage. It's another to be illegally recording the thing. Andrew Scott halted his to be or not to be soliloquy in Hamlet a few years back after someone started using a laptop, which is astonishingly egregious behavior. Like trying to subtly get a phone out is one thing, and being oblivious to the light that that creates in a dark room, but to whack out an entire laptop? I almost respect the foolish audacity that that has to require. Oh my God. Hey, quick little sidebar while I'm editing, because I've just read in the stage that something similar happened with Michelle Terry in Mother Courage and her children at the Globe. Interestingly enough, also specifically about an audience member who was texting and the dialogue of the play giving her the opportunity to kind of acknowledge this because the line was about like she's talked about the idea of needing courage to bring children into the world to get up in the morning, needing courage just to look each other in the eye. And at this point she looked at someone in the yard who was texting, which is to say someone who was standing around the stage. Now, the Globe is a very specific space because you have a certain amount of light that floods into the audience area. If we are lighting the stage because it has become dark in the open air, we are also lighting the audience to some extent. So I think you would only notice that someone's on their phone. This wouldn't have the light problem. It would just be like noticing the behavior and that they're not making eye contact, which makes that very interesting to this current story and to this current example. It's also an indication of the kind of stuff that can happen at the Globe. The level of level of connection and spontaneity there can be very special. Anyway, back to inter alia and the BBC goes on to recall the Leslie Manville debate, but we also have a quote here from actress Juliet Stevenson, speaking to BBC Radio 4's World at One on Monday, who praised pike for stepping in, underlining how actors and audiences share a mutual responsibility in maintaining the illusion of an imaginative world. Worth pointing out here as well that Rosamund pike waited until beyond the curtain call to do this. A lot of the other times when we hear these stories and filming makes it a little more immediate. They are often interruptions to the performance itself and she retained this, miraculously was able to go on to the end of a play that requires significant emotional intensity and focus and then subsequently brought it up. Let's carry on then and talk a little bit about some of the commentary around this that I've seen, as well as the broader notion of phones at the theater.
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So you will be unsurprised to learn that I also applaud Rosamund pike for making these comments. I think as long as this continues to happen, if we say nothing, if we simply accept this behavior, then it gets normalized. And one of the most, most shocking things to me is that often in these situations, and it can arise from something as simple as someone talking too loudly or being distracting, a lot of the conflict comes from their being shushed in the first place, and it creates a very contentious environment. The most disruptive audience situation I have ever witnessed in the same room that I was in was at a milestone performance of the Mousetrap of all Things in the West End. Not a jukebox musical, as is frequently said to be the type of show that attracts these kinds of crowds. But there was a real verbal fight between two patrons. And the moment when it really became just hugely disruptive was when one said to the other, if you shush me again, I'm going to hit you, or something to that extent. And so it was being reprimanded by a fellow audience member that they really took objection to, which makes this a really difficult thing. And we put a lot of responsibility on the front of house staff, on the ushers, but it's very difficult for them to be able to do their jobs in theaters. I mean, in stalls like the Wyndhams, where it's no central aisle, it's just one long row. If someone sat in the middle of several rows, you can try and shine a torch in their face. But also you have to contend with the fact that this is the most acutely emotional, intense moment of the play. And the usher would also be piercing that somewhat to try. And I mean, they're not having to stop someone from filming, so it's not quite as severe. Do they stop every audience member from looking at their phone and this is where people have been a little critical online because they have suggested that it's actually, and this is a very bold thing to say, Rosamund Pike's own fault if her performance, if the play wasn't engaging enough, that people were distracted and felt the need to look at their device. And obviously that's a very bold thing to say because I think if you are buying a ticket to go and see something at the theater, then it deserves your attention. And there is a certain amount of emotional buy in. Worth saying, Inter Alia is one of a handful of productions of plays recently that runs without an interval or intermission and has an extended running time. So it does require some depth of focus and commitment. And while there is, I think, the understanding that audience members are going to willfully go on that journey of imagination as it has been described, you also wouldn't necessarily criticize an audience member for becoming bored if they weren't engaged by the thing that they were watching. Now, the phone lighting up and being a distraction, being visible from the stage is one thing, but to what extent are we saying audience members aren't allowed to, in any kind of a visible way, disengage from what it is that they're seeing? This reminds me of the conversation around standing ovations and whether it's rude to the performers on stage not to stand up. If people around you are, do we all have a right to that personal response, or are we expected to emotionally support the actors who have been going through something very exposing and vulnerable on stage? And, you know, this is only in the context of plays like, Inter Alia, if someone was texting for a few minutes towards the end of Starlight Express, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. And a performer probably wouldn't find themselves standing there on their wheels dressed like a neon train at the end of the thing, getting emotional about the fact that that important bond between actor and audience member was lost. Which, again, isn't to say that Rosamund Pike's speech wasn't the right thing to do and wasn't an important thing to do, because we're having this conversation right now because of it. However, there is, I think, a long, proud history of even seasoned theater goers, like, taking a look at the ceiling, getting distracted, admiring details in the auditorium, looking at their watch. Right? Like, this is the quintessential thing that you do. If something seems to be going on, you're getting a little bored. You might look down at your watch. What time is it? What time is this meant to finish? Back to the stage. And you would hope that without that illuminating your face, that action goes unnoticed. The problem is, and I told you I wanted to talk about these, we now have these illuminated smartwatches. I had one for a brief time and there are settings you can put it into like theater modes or you can turn it off completely. I ended up getting so nervous about it that I ultimately just stopped wearing the thing. But people don't think enough about these and they're often not incorporated into the pre show announcements and advice given to audience members. They say, turn off your phone, unwrap your sweets, whatever. People, often older people who have been given them seem to forget about the smart watches. And they will light up when you get a notification sometimes or when you move your wrist in a certain way. And I've been at plays before where I keep having this like flashing glare out of the corner of my eye and it can be very distracting and it's no one's fault other than the person who didn't realize and who bafflingly can't seem to tell that it's happening. Even though I'm a few seats away from them. And I can't stop thinking about it it that their watch is becoming a problem. And certainly now if someone checks their smartwatch, that's going to be more noticeable to a performer. But do audience members not have some kind of a right to get bored and to look at their watch? This, I think is where we get into very difficult conversation. And the bottom line is no one ought to be a distraction to the people around them. But whether everyone is obligated to offer only their undying attention and utter emotional commitment to everything that's happening on stage, regardless of its captivating quality, that I don't know, I genuinely don't know the answer to that. Interestingly, the actor Simon Lipkin, very recently on Instagram shared that after this extended performance of the song, reviewing the situation in Oliver where he is currently playing Fagin, at the very end he noticed a woman who was looking at her watch and he kind of laughed this off off by saying, you know, he'd been giving this intense multi minute performance. And then at the very end he sees this and he's like, well, clearly she wasn't enjoying it. And it is to my mind utterly valid for actors to have an emotional response to something like that happening in the auditorium. It doesn't necessarily make it right. Now I mentioned this BBC article had a little more to say about mobile phones. They write here it's not known why the audience member was using their phone. But one deaf theater goer who read about Pike's comments told BBC News she sometimes has to use her phone hearing aid app to adjust sound levels to hear the play. And there was of course, an example a few years ago on Broadway with Hadestown, where a performer was publicly criticized individually for seemingly using their phone, when in fact it was to do with an audio device. For exactly the same reason. Blanket device bans and public shaming inadvertently exclude disabled audiences. Said Professor Nicole Brown. That amongst various initiatives that certainly a lot of Broadway theaters have been implementing recently, whereby all of the audience have to surrender their mobile phones into like yonder pouches that are sealed prior to the start of the performance, for the most part these have been star driven plays. But often those including nudity, that have really gone to the trouble of doing this. And we can all, all of us who deeply care about theatre and who really cherish the theatrical experience, continue to be shocked and appalled by the use of mobile phones and by poor theatre etiquette. The people who get phone calls and then answer them in the middle of a production, the people who seem to have no regard for those sitting around them and no sense of empathy and community. But ultimately, I think we all have to acknowledge that mobile phones exist and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. We as a society seem to be increasingly reliant on our own devices. I have a very close relationship with my mobile phone. I'm also someone who goes to the theater almost every night of my life, hundreds of times every year, and I do seem to be able to utterly separate the two. It also isn't lost on me that I am saying all of this through the format of video content that you are very possibly watching right now on a mobile device. But I don't wish to shame people for having phones at all. Rather like with anything else, it's important that we know how to use them responsibly. And you know what? I think it's bigger than the phones. I think it's back to that idea of having some regard and empathy for the people who you are amongst. It's the thing of not listening to music out loud on public transport. Even if you don't have your headphones, then you simply don't listen to music. And I feel quite strongly about this because the mobile phone battle specifically is one that I have fought many times over in my life. When I was a teacher at a further education college, it was a conversation that I would have to have have every single day and So I would see the real intimate connection that young people would have to their mobile phones. It is increasingly where your social life exists. We have carefully but deliberately become reliant on these devices. You don't necessarily need to take cash or even cards around with you, because you can pay for everything on a phone. There is more and more consequence to losing your phone or your battery dying. None of that excuses whipping it out in a theater auditorium for it to light up. And in this particular example, would we be having this conversation if it didn't light up? If somehow the technology existed such that this person could send a message discreetly on their phone and be unnoticed by those around them and by those performing on stage, would we still be punishing them to the same extent if it was simply about them disengaging emotionally rather than causing a bright distraction? That is the question that I find really interesting, because inevitably, I'm going to continue to see a lot of theatre and I am not consistently going to find it all captivating because of my job, because I'm a critic, because it is my responsibility to watch the whole thing. I don't look away and start noticing the ceiling tiles. But certainly I can relate to that kind of a feeling. I'm sure we all can. And at this point, I'm going around in circles, and I think if I continue to talk about this anymore, it's going to become a broader conversation about a real shift I would like to see in society and a resurgence of empathy and a sense of community as we find ourselves increasingly divided and ever more so, caring less and less about those people who we walk past, or in this example, those people who we sit behind, or those people who we pay to watch perform on stage and with whom there is, I think, to some extent, an unspoken contract of trust that they are going to commit to telling us this story and we are going to commit to being told it. And so, while we could preemptively confiscate the mobile phones of every single audience member, and while it has logistically been implemented quite successfully and without much issue already elsewhere, I don't know if that's really going to address the bigger problem, which is honestly less about texting and more about being together as people and learning how to respect one another again. So those have been my thoughts about this particular theatrical news story. As always, I would love to hear yours. There is, I think, a little room for debate here. I dare say we're all going to be pretty aligned about the indignity of a performer having to see a distraction in the auditorium, audience members being distracted by someone using their phone during what is a very celebrated performance they're very lucky to get the chance to see in the West End. But I'm curious what you think about the notion of audiences disengaging emotionally and whether that merits punishment. Let me know all of your thoughts in the comments. Don't hold back. Stay tuned for more theatre news, recaps and reviews from me. Wherever you are seeing my face or hearing my voice, don't forget you can also sign up to my free weekly email substack newsletter. I dare say there may be another theater etiquette story on the horizon. Hopefully we get a little respite between now and then. And I hope, as always, that everyone is staying safe and that you have hold on. Excuse me one second. I joke a stagey day for 10 more seconds. I'm Mickey Jo Theatre. Oh my God. Hey, thanks for watching. Have a stagey day. Subscribe
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