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For over 30 years, the government told us to eat six to 11 servings of bread and pasta a day. They told us fat was the enemy. And we got fatter and sicker than ever before. But something just happened that we never thought we'd see. The government just admitted, hey, we're wrong. And they released a new food pyramid. That actually makes sense. Let's get into it.
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Okay, so when this news came out, excited Are you guys pumped about it? Is it whatever? Like, how's your, how do you feel about it?
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Oh, I think it's a nice change. Big. I think it's a move in the right direction for sure. Yeah. Especially in. When you contrast it to. It's almost flipped upside down. That's right. So I thought it was a total move in the right direction. Yeah.
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And initially I think I had the reaction of what, who cares? Who reads the food pyramid anyways? This is all, you know, whatever. It doesn't, I don't think. But, but I mean, it is, it is taught in schools.
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Yep.
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And you know, there is the argument that I believe you made this. When I was like, I don't think it matters that much. And I've been, I'm slowly being convinced that. Okay. You know, part of why I probably feel that way is because I've been taught off of. And, and I grew up with a society that was taught from the old food pyramid. And if we start teaching our children this stuff and we educate more people on it, does this make an impact? And, and I think, I think the reason why I felt jaded early was that I don't. I think if this is a real positive thing, it's going to take a while before we actually really feel the impact of just how positive it is. Yeah.
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One thing was like a lot of the food contracts and the businesses that they would bring into the school, they're going to have to change and the priorities of that. So I think, you know, at least looking into it and the restructuring of how, you know, we introduce kids to what the priorities are with food, I think it's a positive.
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Well, so the government policy had a profound impact on people's understanding of what was healthy, what was unhealthy, and the market, because you guys remember. So this is 1992, when this original food pyramid came out, which by the way, when this food pyramid came out in 1992, it wasn't groundbreaking in the sense that they had been communicating some of these things for a long time already. Yeah. So it's not like they came out the food pyramid and said suddenly fat is bad for you. That had been communicated for a while. This just became kind of official kind of nutrition policy. But because of government policy, people were afraid of fat and food companies would kind of follow suit. And so you saw a lot of low fat foods, non fat foods, milk, skim milk is super popular. Everybody was afraid of eating eggs. People stay away from meat and grain based products completely exploded. And this was A direct result of this. Now the new pyramid I think is reflecting is also not groundbreaking in the sense that I think a lot of people already figuring these things out. I think the fitness industry, the health industry has been communicating some of these things for a while and so now the government policy is kind of following suit. Nonetheless, it's going to just speed up what people have been figuring out for a long time.
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So can we pull the old one up so we can look at like break down exactly what. Because I remember the, at the very bottom was the grains and it was
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like, that was like the most six to 11 servings a day. Yeah, yeah.
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By the way, can you just think of that versus 6 to 11 servings of grains per day? What is, what is that by the way?
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Pastas.
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And what is the other part of this that I think is interesting? Like what's a serving?
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Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah.
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It's not clearly defined because I think
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of a serving is, is an amount of something that you have at a me.
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Uh huh.
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So 6 to 11 servings of grains. It sounds like a lot. It just basically sounds like six to 11 meals that are heavily based in grains.
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Well, what it is is that most of your, this is like the majority of your plate. Remember how they made my plate?
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Oh, the, my plate was the follow up little later.
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Yeah. And so it's just the majority of our plate is made up of grains. Here's. And I'm just going to, just going to take a little segue before we come back. Here's why this was a big problem. It's not necessarily that grains aren't good for you, it's really because, okay, we can make the argument that animal products, meats are better than grains and I could make that argument all day long. But the big issue is a majority of processed foods, the vast majority are grain based. A lot of people's diets moved away from whole natural foods and towards processed foods. There's lots of processed foods that have servings of whole grain in them. Like cereal, Breakfast cereal. Whole grain. Yeah. Cookies. Whole grain bread. Whole processed, really refined carbohydrate bread. Whole grain or grain based. So, so this was the issue. This is why we created our, our whole food guide was, I mean, and we're going to get into the new food pyramid. But the, the literally the most impactful thing you can do for your health and fitness without getting too complicated is to focus on eating whole natural foods which will naturally eliminate a lot of these grains, by the way. Well, yeah, a lot of Them. I mean, you might have some rice,
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you might have natural limiters. I mean, a lot of fiber. And, you know, then obviously from the meats, you get that satiating effect as well. But it's like it has these natural limiters in place.
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That's right. So we made a guide. It's wholefoodsguide.com by the way. And when you go there, that really simplifies everything. And you just follow the steps on there and you'll make some of the biggest impacts on your diet just from that. But I think that's the big. That was the big, big issue. The new food pyramid takes the grains serving from six to 11 down to something like two to. I wrote it down here, two to four. And they also put an emphasis on cutting refined carbohydrates.
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So a third of what it was before.
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A third. And they said definitely avoid refined carbohydrates, which points even more closely to processed food. Yeah, that's right. Right. Because again, if you look at the old food pyramid, it's like a lot of things.
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Which would not. Yeah, I was gonna say, which would knock out things like cereals and bread.
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Yes, yeah.
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And make it into things. Rice would be okay. Potatoes would be okay.
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Yeah, like that. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But if you're eating like, even bread, like even minimally processed, like sprouted wheat bread has a different. It doesn't affect the body as much as, like, you know, hyper processed, you know, white bread. One of them has a much more. A much more of a satiety producing effect on the body, whereas the other one tends to encourage overeating, which is the real big issue.
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How much better is. I mean, I remember as a young trainer thinking that choosing to eat wheat bread was a better choice than our white bread.
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I used to think that as well.
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Yeah.
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How so how much better or worse is.
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Is it.
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Is it like brown rice to white R rice?
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Yeah, they're super processed. But if you did like sprouted wheat, then. Then it kind of makes a little bit of.
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Well, yeah, I mean, if you did things like Ezekiel bread.
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There you go. By the way, when you try Ezekiel, very different nuts.
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Ezekiel bread, you're eating something I'm talking about like regular old rainbow wheat bread, whatever brand. You know what I'm saying?
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Same.
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It's just one's brown.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's just an example how that. Remember they did the same thing with brown and white rice. To us, it's just like you. You thought you were making such a better choice by having wheat bread. Instead of white bread. But it was, it's just as processed.
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It's splitting hairs at most, at best.
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Right, right.
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The next big difference was the old pyramid really demonized fat. When you looked at the, at the old pyramid, fats were at the top of the pyramid. Meaning that's the sparingly. Yes. Two to three servings sparingly at the top. By the way, you know what this, this would come out to for a 2000 calorie diet. So if you follow the old pyramid and you ate a 2,000 calorie diet. Yeah, yeah. Do you know how many grams of fat if you followed their old pyramid?
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Well, that was 20. 20 grams?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It's, it's about, it would be 20 grams times nine.
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The limit would be 180 calories. I wrote it down. So I wrote down the exact amount. The limit would be about, about 65 grams a day total. That's the limit?
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Yeah. Times how many calories per gram?
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That was 65 grams of fat a day. Yeah.
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So you're talking about a hundred and about 150 to 200 calories. So that's nothing.
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And here's what's crazy. As a personal trainer. Yeah. If I had somebody eating low. That's low. That's a little. That's low. Yeah, that's like you're at the bottom. Like we need to get those fats up.
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You know the effects of that.
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If you're deficient, you know, it's essential. Yeah, it's essential.
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Macronutrients.
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You need fats for fatty acid. For the fatty acids. You need fats for fat soluble vitamins when fats are too low, which 65 grams of fat is borderline at a 2000 calorie diet. In my experience with clients, clients would experience things like their hair wouldn't look so good. Their joints wouldn't hurt. They wouldn't have as much energy. Appetite would go up. It's. It's not. Yeah, it's not great at all. The new pyramid, no limit. There's really no limit to the fat so long as it's coming from kind of whole.
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Is that what it even says?
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They don't give you a limit.
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Crazy.
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They don't really give you a limit. They don't say like limit it. They say, you know, as long as it comes from whole natural sources, essentially. So, you know, olive oil, avocados, butter is okay, meats are okay, fish is okay. Whereas the old pyramid, even if it was like salmon or avocados. No, no, no. You got to keep it down. Yeah. To this real low amount. That's how bad. The old.
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The old pyramid was so crazy.
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Then protein. This is where it gets a big difference. So I did the math on the protein. So the old 1992 pyramid had protein at about 2 to 3 servings. The new pyramid has protein at the top basically every meal. So every meal needs to have protein in it. Whereas before it was two to three servings a day for a 170 pound man. Okay, the old pyramid. You want to guess how many grams of protein that would recommend it for a 170 pound man
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from 90 servings?
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Yeah. 90. 80.
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Yeah.
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61.
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Oh my God, bro.
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Yeah, 61 grams, man. If you're at 170 pounds and you're trying to improve your health and fitness, get stronger, burn body fat, have any kind of satiety, dude, and you're eating 61 grams of approaching a day. It's gonna be, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, that's gonna be really, really tough. Yeah. Now you're eating essential. You're having enough to not die from too little protein. But I mean, we're painting the picture now of what this diet look like when you follow the old.
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Yeah, you're removing the essential macronutrients.
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Dude, Your meal is like, it's like three bites of chicken breast, a loaf of bread, and like, what else?
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Yeah, was this the medieval glass of juice?
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Yeah, yeah. And a glass of juice or something like that. Yeah. I mean, crazy.
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Yeah, that's, that's not.
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So we grew up with the new one. The new one doubles it more than doubles it. So 170 pound man would have 123 grams approaching.
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And I'd still say that's minimal, which, which is conservative.
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It's. Yeah, way better than the old, but. Yeah, way better than the old. But I still think it's a little
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low, so to get your back a little bit on this. I mean, it's been so wild for me to see how quickly the market responded. And maybe that's primarily to your point that you made that, you know, it's not like the, the, the, the. Well, I'd say the general pop wasn't up to speed, but we've been talking about high protein and fats are okay.
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And that's definitely more mainstream.
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Yeah, it's way more. It's so crazy though, right now. I don't know how much you guys are paying attention to this right now. I've brought it up a couple times
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in the show all the protein options on menus.
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I mean, if you guys are. You guys are watching commercials and TV and stuff that, I mean, Jack in the Box Panda, like Starbucks. Yeah, they're all marketing high protein everything. So they, I mean, they have high protein menus now. And their commercials are geared towards Chipotle. They're geared towards come in and get your 30, 70, or 90 gram protein meal. Like, they're all pushing this high protein message. Like, and I mean, what. This came out less than a month ago.
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Part of it is the, the, the mainstream is starting to become privy to the benefits of diet that's higher in protein. The Atkins diet, I think, taught people that fat wasn't scary. Took a while. Now it did make people think carbs were scary, which they're not, but definitely not that fat is scary. And then you had the. Now you have GLP1s. That's right. The introduction of GLP1s.
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This is shaking up the entire industry
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because now the medical community is like, oh, if you're on a GLP1, you need to eat high protein to prevent muscle loss. So you just take a perfect storm now to where mainstream now is like high protein. High protein. So you can see lots of high protein everything. Yeah, you know, it's.
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I mean, I'm telling you, it is everywhere now. Everywhere, everywhere I go, I see it. I see it at gas stations, I see it in Starbucks now. I see it at the Panda. I see it at the Jack in the Box commercials. Chipotle.
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Not mad at it.
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No, no, we. So hard.
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No, it's.
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Find it.
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It's so. It's so crazy to see how quick that was. I mean, it was. It felt like just the other day, you know, we were constantly talking, but now it feels like everybody is on board now with that.
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Totally. In 1992, the Pyra, you know, it said limit sweets, but it really didn't say anything about processed food. It didn't mention processed food. The new one, it talks specifically about processed food. In fact, it says words, literally. These are the quote, eat real food. So we finally have. And again, we have that whole food guide that talks about the power of whole natural foods, or should I say getting away from the dangers of ultra processed food, which is. It's wholefoodguide.com right, Dog Doug. I want to make sure people get that. Yeah, Whole Foods. It's a free guide.
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I mean, we. I remember when we wrote this guide, we wrote this guy a long time ago and it was when we first got together and you know, Obviously, we'd all been trainers for a long time before we had even got together and started the podcast. One of the things that was really cool because we all have different backgrounds, we've trained a lot of different clients, but there was a handful of things that we had all come to the same conclusion. You know, one of those being the way we program for our clients as far as the. The basic movements that we preach and talk about all the time. The other one was the diet advice. You know, we. And we all went through a phase where we used to write these elaborate diets and. And, you know, weird things that we create. Yeah. And meal plan for people. And we'd all got to this place where. No. If I just told my client to cut out the processed food, eat whole foods, I give them an unlimited amount. Like, literally even less parameters than this. Just say, no processed foods. Eat whole foods. You hungry? Go for it. Eat a steak. You want some. You want a baked potato? Eat it. Have a baked potato. Just eat real whole foods. And what we found was how much that naturally regulated their. Their calorie consumption. And then the next. That's the first huge layer that got them to lose. The first, like, 20 pounds of fat. Then the next layer was just like, go get protein.
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Yeah.
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Through those whole soup. Like that was it like. Like, literally those two things cut out
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processed foods 90 plus percent.
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And it's like that gets 90 of your clients in great shape.
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It's crazy. You said 20 pounds on average. If I had a client who had to lose, you know, a decent amount of weight, if they just were consistent just with eating only whole natural foods, and that's all they did, between 15 to 20 pounds, they would lose easy. Just what just happened. Easy. And people need to understand this. There's this myth that we have this, like, we're like eating machines. We have this appetite.
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I know.
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That just makes us eat. If there's food in front of us, we'll just eat until we're overweight. That's not true. That's not true. We have natural systems. We have natural regulators of satiety that tell us to stop eating. The problem is we've engineered food to bypass it. Bypass it. We've taken food, we've understood and really broken down scientifically what's called palatability, the enjoyment you get from food, which includes its taste, but it includes many other things. And we've broken it down like a drug. And then we've engineered food using these principles, and the result of which being if you eat processed Foods you eat more with the same. So you'll feel satisfied with way more calories than you would if you ate whole, natural foods. If you look at a picture. I actually saw a picture of this the other day. I saw a picture of the amount of potatoes in a big, large bag of potato chips, and there was a table with them. It was like. I don't know, it was like five potatoes and then the bowl of chips. And which one do you think you could eat all of? Of course, it'd be the potato chips. By the way, people think calories are a regulator of appetite, not calories. That's not true. In fact, the potato chips would have more calories than the potatoes because the potato chips are fried in oil. And yet I could eat way more and faster where I couldn't even finish the potatoes. So this is like, a big deal. And the new food. This is the first time government policy has called out processed food, which is a big win because that industry. That food industry, that part of the food industry has a stranglehold. Yeah. On government policy, because that's the money maker.
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Yeah. The entire way they make money is to make sure you keep consuming a lot of calories. And so it's like that's been the entire motivation is to just keep buying
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product, to piggyback off of what you said about how much, you know, processed foods are designed to hijack our body's natural senses of satiety. It's so obvious. I know you guys aren't really into the. I love the show. It's on the History Channel. Netflix picked it up afterwards, and it's called Alone, and it's the one where they dropped 10 contestants in the middle the last season that just went. They dropped him in the Arctic Circle. Right. Just. And there's moose, rabbit, some fish that they could possibly catch. And most of these people struggle just to get a meal a day. And when you watch them eat a boiled, you know, you know, squirrel head that they feel you can see.
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Oh, my God. They need the nutrients.
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Yeah. It's so crazy how much. And you as a consumer watching the television going, like, it can't be that good, but it's like when you haven't had anything and you've eaten nothing but off of the land with no salt, no seasoning, no nothing.
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Like, it was hard to get.
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It's crazy how much we've changed our palate.
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Yeah.
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Through even ourselves.
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Right.
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And I would. You know, we consider. I consider myself a good eater, primarily whole foods, but we still season up like crazy. And I still eat processed foods to get, make its way in diet. And so we have changed our palate so much and it's so. And I remember when that never really like I knew that like intellectually as a, as a trainer, but I didn't really understand to what level until I competed. When I competed, it was the first time in my life that I was so strict for long periods of time, like, like a year. So three years of like literally tracking and doing everything. And I remember going months of eating nothing but whole natural foods and I had to account for every single calorie. And so eating processed anything makes it because they let it, allow it to be 20 off. I can't do that. So. And then I remember like here I am almost, I'm 30 years old, biting into an apple and I remember though they'll still remember thinking like, whoa, where
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did this one come from?
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Because it was so, it felt, it tasted so foreign to me because my whole life I grew up eating candy and things like that that it changed what vegetables and fruit tasted like.
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That's right.
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And it tasted so enjoyable and so rich. And I thought, wow, that's so crazy that I, I've done that to myself. We've done that to ourselves. We have.
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And it's, they've engineered these foods so well and they're so powerful that the brain reacts like it does to a drug in the sense that this is why you notice this is receptors start to downregulate. Your brain starts to perceive this overwhelming sensation of texture and flavor and it starts to kind of numb it down a little bit so that when you go eat an apple, if you always eat apple candy all the time, an apple is going to taste bland because your brain has changed how it perceives things because it's getting blasted with these drug like effects from processed foods. When you go off of them for a while then you eat whole natural foods, you're like, okay. So what happens is how your body regulates appetite and the food intake. It's so hijacked and so off. The side effect is obesity and disease. And the only way to control it is either a count everything that goes in your mouth and hold on to everything with your hands real tight and live this really stressful, crazy life which doesn't work or allow your natural, allow your body to naturally work the way it's supposed to by sticking.
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This is why, this is why, and I know we all agreed on this when we first got together, why I didn't like if it fits your Macros.
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Yeah. Doesn't take into account at all because.
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Because it doesn't take this part into account. And what for the listener who's never been able to stick to a quote unquote diet for a long enough period of time to get themselves in that shape. If. If you don't put these crazy parameters and the only parameter you put is just eat whole foods. Eat as much as you want, but just eat whole foods. You do that long enough and those. These normal foods actually start to taste amazing. And if you do it even longer than those other things you get a bit repulsed by. Too overwhelming for your senses.
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That's right.
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And. And it's easy to naturally, but you let it creep in long enough and then they'll readapt again.
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And the other part of. Is this is that. And this is again why I'm so excited about. Because it's not perfect. I don't think the new food pyramid is perfect. And we'll get to that in just a second. There's some things I would like to add, but I love that they said for the first time, avoid processed food. Eating real foods is. I mean, people need to understand.
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Big deal.
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When you look at the food, the food industry, the margins on potatoes are nothing compared to the margins on potato chips. The margins on wheat are nothing compared to the margins on crackers. In other words, processed foods have the big margins. They make the money. And that's the. Those are the lobbyists. Those are the people that go in and pay for these new policies. So the fact that we came out and suddenly said eat real food is really amazing and remarkable. Now here's where I think they should have. I think they should have gone. I think the protein recommendations, although they're way better, should be higher. I think they should have added. They should have made it higher. And I think what they should have said was for people who are dealing with or worried about muscle loss, who are exercising or strength training or interested in weight loss, eat more protein and also eat it first. Makes a big difference. Other than that, I think they did. And the fruit and vegetable recommendations in there, relatively same from the 1992, which was okay. Yeah. So I think this is great. I think we're entering into a new era of awareness around food.
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Well, it's so cool to see this because when you think. I mean, I don't remember what year it was when we. When we wrote the whole food guide that we. And because in the guy we also help somebody who's never tried to do this. Like we Take you steps there. It's not just like here's a pyramid, follow this. It's like here's how we recommend how we used to coach clients through that process to get there. I mean, this is, this is it. The difference is what you're saying right now is like that we have a higher recommendation towards the protein, but it's really close to this.
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That's right. So let's talk about practical applications. How can we do this? Number one, your aim for if you're a woman, between 25 to 35 grams of protein per meal. If you're a man, about 45, 40 to 50, excuse me, grams of protein per meal. Eat it first and then the rest can be whatever. Eat until you're satisfied. Single ingredient foods. That's what a whole natural food is. Whole natural food is. That's the thing. Meat, that's the thing. Egg. That's it, you know, Apple. That's it. Rice, there it is. Potato, there it is. Broccoli, there it is. When it has multiple ingredients, if it has a long shelf life, comes in a box or a wrapper. This is called processed food, by the way. This is going to piss off people. This also extends to the health food segment of foods that are processed, which you also see protein bars and shakes. And although they're in a different category, they're still in that processed food category. And so although I think there's use for them, especially for hitting protein targets and the like, the goal is whole natural foods.
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So you know, to, to, to play devil's advocate or defend things like that, that we all admittedly use ourselves. Today when I'm coaching a client, I want us to first do this. Yes, right. And then you, then you, then you learn to intermittently introduce those types, those other things like that. But if you want to, if you want to get back to that place where you, you crave a vegetable or crave a fruit, which by the way, I thought was impossible because I had my entire life because since a kid I was introduced to candies and sweets and it was never, not a part of my life until I got older. I didn't realize. I didn't. And I know I'm not alone, I know I'm not alone on people that believe that fruits and vegetables are blah or bland or boring or what, that. But if you do this for an extended period of time, they, it changes totally into this enjoyable thing. Then once you've had that and you've changed that chemistry and then you now have that connection to it and a different relationship with it. Then it becomes a primary source or the primary fuel that you use. And then, okay, and then occasionally I realize, oh wow, I'm having a low day on pro protein. I can have that, a protein shake to help me out there. And you're not like you're not going to switch from that to all of a sudden going other direction. And you still realize teaching somebody that so they can feel it sticking to the Whole Foods first before you introduce those other tools.
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Totally. And again, I'm going to say it one more time here at the end. It's a free guide. It's a guide. The ultimate guide on whole food eating and diet. It's wholefoodsguide.com you can also find us on Instagram, mindpump media. We'll see you there.
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Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews, Doug Egge
In this engaging episode, the Mind Pump crew dives deep into the dramatic overhaul of the U.S. food pyramid, comparing the long-standing 1992 version with the newly revised guidelines. The hosts break down the reasoning (and repercussions) behind the old recommendations, analyze the logic and science behind the new rules, and reflect on what these changes mean for public health, nutrition, and the fitness industry. They offer practical advice, personal stories, and plenty of signature Mind Pump wit as they dissect just how much things have (finally) shifted toward what many in fitness have preached for years.
Old vs. New: The old pyramid put protein at just 2–3 servings/day, leading to paltry numbers (as little as 61 grams for a 170lb person). The new pyramid recommends protein with every meal—doubling previous recommendations.
Industry Response: The new guidelines have coincided with an explosion of high-protein options in fast food and grocery markets—a trend the hosts have noticed everywhere from Jack in the Box and Starbucks to gas stations.
On the Old Pyramid:
“A loaf of bread and three bites of chicken breast… was this the medieval glass of juice?” – Sal & Justin (15:22–15:33)
On the Power of Whole Foods:
“90+ percent of your results come from just cutting processed foods and prioritizing protein with whole foods.” – Adam (20:01)
On Food Industry Resistance:
“The margins on potatoes are nothing compared to the margins on potato chips. Processed foods have the big margins. Those are the lobbyists.” – Sal (27:00)
On Palate Reset:
“If you don’t put these crazy parameters and the only parameter you put is just eat whole foods… you do that long enough and those normal foods actually start to taste amazing.” – Adam (26:04)
The Mind Pump team enthusiastically endorses the new food pyramid as a crucial course correction in mainstream nutrition advice—shunning processed foods, allowing healthy fats, doubling protein targets, and cutting grains way back. While the guidance still isn’t perfect (they’d raise protein even higher), for the first time in decades, what gets taught in schools now truly aligns with what works in the real world for health, performance, and wellness.
Practical takeaway:
Eat real, single-ingredient foods. Prioritize protein every meal. Cut processed foods. Taste and results will follow.
For support, check out their free Whole Foods Guide at wholefoodsguide.com.