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I love it.
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See, but I have all this written.
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You don't need all that, but we're
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going to talk about it. Okay, so let's talk about the career side of you, what you're doing right now. Tell me what companies you're running.
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Yeah, so I started for Divine, which is a personal branding agency. Everybody has a personal brand or even if they feel like they don't.
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Yeah.
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They are realizing, okay, I Need to build my personal brand. And so what we do is help women become crowned authorities, really understand their gifting, and, and then put that out into social media, build personal brands and make it come to life so they can crush it.
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Yes. I love that. So where did you get the skill set to do that?
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Through doing it myself 15 years ago, starting out on social media and going, okay, I have something to sell, but I have no one to sell it to. And so I started practicing and being like, how can I recruit people? At that time, I was building a health and wellness company and I had 500 Facebook friends and then built my own personal brand. And what I realized is I just do it differently than a lot of people that are in sales. I build it through showcasing who I actually am and taking people on the journey. And so naturally, people started to ask me, like, how should I do this with my brand or marketing? And I just started to help people, built a program around it and, and started for Divine because there's just so much request for help, like, I can help you.
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Which I think is a wonderful thing that you're doing that. Because when we are just voyeurs of what you're doing, from your books to your speaking, which is phenomenal. We'll talk about that in a moment. To you, mentoring people, executive leadership, coaching, that you're doing everything at a very, very high standard. It's also amazing to me that if you go back to even 2010, that you were kind of in a setback. And tell me one thing that helped breathe life into you in 2010 when you started to come alive into this person that I now am looking at.
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Yeah, 2010, I could put myself in the room. I can smell the room. It was an apartment. I didn't have money, so I moved in with my mentor. I had a mattress on the ground in this, like, side makeshift bedroom. I had this old desk that when I would write on it, it would shake. I had no mentorship before. I never had anyone speak life into me and tell me, you can have, be, do anything. Here's the guidebook. I was raised by a single mom. You know, there's a lot of hardship. And so in that season, though, I wasn't growing as fast as I wanted to income wise. I was growing tremendously fast in my heart and in my head and building those skills up. And the thing that got me through it was staying close to the fire, staying close to people that also had big mindsets that were building things. And I just put myself in an environment that Was conditioned for me to grow where I couldn't run away. Because before in my life I would just run away.
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Yeah.
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When things got hard.
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So if you're sitting down next to somebody on the airplane and they were meeting you for the first time, how do you explain what you do for a job? So like a lot of people that sit next to me, if they say, what do you do for a job? It's kind of hard for me to explain.
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I know it's hard. Right.
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So what is your job? What is your career?
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My career is to change lives. I transform lives through the renewing of their mind. I show people what's possible and I help people believe in themselves and their worth. And I help people break things off that maybe have been there for their whole life. And that's just holding them back and causing oppression. That's really what I do. And I do it through different mediums, through speaking, through my show, through. Through personal branding. All of it.
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Yeah. So the leadership side of you, is that innate, built in, learned behavior or a mixture of both?
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I think a mixture of both. I wasn't the smartest kid in school, but I tried the most.
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Yeah.
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What I mean by that is like I excelled at communication. I excelled at being friends with my teachers and babysitting their kids. I excelled at that type of stuff. But when it came to like math and things, it just. The math was a mathing. And so I overcompensated in areas cause I didn't want to fail. So I really had to identify what am I actually good at at a young age. And then volleyball taught me how to be a leader. But then in business, I just would study the people that were doing great. I'm like, oh, they have tremendous leader skills.
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Yes.
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Let me model them. And what I found very quickly was not all people are the same in public as they are behind closed doors. And what can happen when you are not living in congruence. And that's really what I saw through. You know, people say, don't meet your mentors sometimes and is a blessing to me at an early age to see of like, no, you really need to walk the talk. If you're going to talk, you need to actually walk it.
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Talk to me about the standard, even physically, because we know each other. You love to work out, but you do it at a high standard. Your clothes and your style, your fashion. High standard. Where did you get the high standard side of you where you said, I want to take everything to that level.
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I love art, I love style. I Love, beauty. I think God just. He has blessed so many creatives in the fashion world, and that is like an escapism for me. Looking at fashion magazines, I just. I love it. And I also, at a young age, knew a woman who did well in business, and I just saw how she put herself together, and she combed her hair and she smelled good. And I was just a little girl looking up to a young woman. She probably doesn't even realize the impact she had on me. So I just learned to put myself together. And when you care and you realize what a prize you are, you pay more attention to how you're putting yourself together and how your appearances even. Right. And so it's so important. And I'm just deeply passionate about fashion.
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Okay, so when you think of your target audience, let's go back to the Aspire tour, when you were so phenomenal on that stage and not easy to do because there's a lot of different speakers, different types, and you own the stage from beginning to end was amazing. And so if I was to look at your target audience, I think yours is unusual because it's kind of like it's everyone. It's not just, like, single women between 18 and 45. It's everyone who wants improvement, who wants to do well. What do you think about that statement?
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100% accurate. And typically, I tell people and ask people, who's your avatar and who's your audience? The truth is, mine is an absolute mixed bag. But one thing I know that they all crave is radical authenticity, and they want dis. Depth. And that's what I'm about, right? And so I think there's, like, a common line of people that if I meet them at events or they slide into the DMs, it's like there's something also where they're open to real transformation, and they're just open to it. Believer or not, they see that there's something else there, and they're ready to receive it. I think people that are on the opposite side of the spectrum, those are not my people yet, but hopefully someday they will be. But you got to be open to it.
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Okay. I like to ask really great leaders this question. What frustrates you? People that are smart, awake, and aware things will frustrate them, whether it be the economy or the way people get stuck or people are stuck in addiction or whatever it is. What is something recently that's been frustrating you about just the way people live or the way things are, not making
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a decision of what they stand for? I'll give you an example. I was asked to speak at an event where a company was doing a new thing and it was like, one person is like, I want to save people, I want to introduce Jesus to them. Here's what I want, here's what I need you to do. And I'm like, got it, got it, got it. But it was very clear that she didn't tell the others or say, here's what the message is going to be. And so it was like, you could tell their whole staff was on completely different planets. And I just believe communications, everything in marketing, if you're putting on an event.
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Yeah.
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I'm not a bait and switch girl. And I want people to know like a little bit of what they're getting. And you can say it's a faith based event. Okay, got it. Right. But they didn't make a decision of how they were gonna market something. And then everything backfired. Cause you had 50% of the people going, why is this faith based? We're more into academia and it's like you guys needed to do that up front. And so it's like you gotta make a decision. And even for me and my companies and my personal brand, I needed to make a decision. Was I gonna stand for Jesus or was I gonna be lukewarm? Depending on if I'm talking to Tim Storey or not or somebody else. I believe God is looking for those that are willing to be bold and he will give favor to them. But it's like, if you're wishy washy, how can he possibly trust you? You gotta make a decision.
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Yeah. So that's something that frustrates.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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No, but I like that that frustrates you. Let's go to the faith side. So because I love to study things, let's go way, way back into the 50s of like a Norman Vincent Peale. It was people like that that they started to talk more about their faith. But they did it from a high perch, like they were up on some platform and they were talking about faith that way. Then in the 70s, you had this guy, Robert Schuller, who wasn't far from here, the Crystal Cathedral, and he was saying things like, tough times never last, Tough times never do. Then you have, in today's world, you have like a Joel Osteen, where most people would know that name, almost like a Tony Robbins.
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Yes.
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Then you have people like yourself right now that you're like in the cut. What I mean by that is you are like fearless right now.
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Yeah.
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So I'M kind of loving this, just to be honest with you, because I know how this thing works. So I see, like, Tim Tebow does his kind of thing, right? And then other people do their kind of thing, having to share do with sharing their faith. So you go from being phenomenal at running businesses, then dressing like you're on the COVID of Vogue, and then throwing down on the Jesus side, like, at the max level.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Okay. When did that start happening? Tell me about that.
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Yeah, well, basically, I got to pinpoint the exact time, but I think it was, like, four years ago where I really started to have a relationship with Jesus. I always had faith in my life, but I didn't really walk with Jesus. And the closer I get to him, the more I feel free to be quite honest. And for me, I spent 35 years trying to deal with childhood trauma, and then I got delivered from that, and I started to actually read the Bible, and I'm still learning it. And the more I read, the more I understand the truth. And so for me, everything I do in life, I must move with conviction, or I can't do it at all. I cannot fake the funk. I'm not your girl for that. And so when I got healed and started to see a whole different light of life and a lightness about myself and the oppression and the darkness and the anxiety started to subside for me. I'm like, my job is to now help other people. Why on earth would I keep this to myself? And what I see out there is mixed message ville and people contradicting scripture and all of it. And so the more I learn, the more I'm obedient to what God is actually saying. And so for me, I've just been drinking through a fire hose, trying to learn, but also praying more and being quiet more and knowing, okay, this is my assignment, whether I like it or not, I must focus on follow my assignment. And so what has transpired for me is God overrides humanity. And so he's speaking to me and through me, even if I don't like it. Like, do you really want me to do this? I'm fearing God. And even backstage, I'm just like, all right, I got it. And half the time, I don't even know what I say on stage.
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I'm liking this side about you because I think what happens is that when the calling calls you, as we discussed before in other conversations, Ephesians 4:1 says, Walk worthy of the calling that you received. The word calling is a Greek word that means specific. And unique calling. So the calling that is on Joyce Meyer's is different than your calling. The calling on Christine Cain is different than your calling. So you have this unique and specific calling. Now what happens to a lot of people that are called is that they start to act, walk, speak, like everybody else.
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Right, Exactly.
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And I kind of like this about you because it reminds me a little bit of myself. I didn't at all. I broke all the rules. Yes. So, like, when I started and everybody was like, preaching like they're preachers with a certain preachy vibe, I was like a one man comedy act who happened to be used by the power of God and getting people healed at the same time. And I remember when I got released to do this and I was very, very young, people were like, what is this? But I really had great influencers, men and women of God, that just said, oh, my God, you're just a breath of fresh air. Keep this up. Not everyone's going to go for it, but keep this up because your audience has been looking for you.
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Yes.
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And I think that that's similar to you. Is that the authenticity that you're talking about and being raw and transparent and being Jesus style, which one third of Jesus ministry was healing people. You're just flat out going for it. And I'm loving it.
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Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. You have a style and a swag and your essence. It excites me. I was telling my team on the way here, I'm like, listen, you're one of the few people that I've seen where you're so in your essence. It's not performance based. It's not try hard. And that has given me permission to just let it fly. And it's cool because I think the younger generation, they really do crave that raw, real. They don't want performative. Everything is a script. And that's how we're going to reach the younger generation. 100%.
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No, you're so right. Because watch. It's impossible to try to compete with Coachella. And so, like, you'll see religious Coachellas.
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Okay.
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That just didn't happen. Didn't work. And even the way a lot of religious people talk, communicate, is impacting what they think is a big community. But when I talk to my real friends in the world, they're not really being dented by that. Okay.
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Yeah.
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So God will give certain people like yourself this favor. So the word favor, as you know, means his blessings. It means his extensions. Favor is on three things. It's on a person and it's on a path, and it's on your efforts. You have favor on your person, and it's on your path, but it's also on your efforts. And so what maybe takes somebody 10 times the energy to do. Watch how you feel like you're on a people move or doing it because the anointing and the favor is on your efforts. Does that make sense?
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Yeah, totally makes sense.
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And when you walk in, that kind of favor, man, can't shut you down.
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That's right. That's right.
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They really can't.
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Yeah. Makes 100% sense.
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Yeah. So here's an interesting thing. If you look at the world, there's close to 8 billion people, and about 3 billion of them would consider themselves in the Christian kind of walk. But I think that there's only kind of like a remnant that the Bible talks about that are willing to be a little bit more radical. Why did you decide to turn that radical dial on? Because you could be playing it in the middle right now.
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Yeah.
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But something is become a little more radical about you in a positive way.
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Thank you.
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What made you decide to, like, turn that dial on?
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Well, first of all, I've had people tell me to, like, stay in the medium lane, like, don't be too much. I've had people I even respect tell me that. But the truth is, the more that I learn about Jesus and learn about what it says in the living word of God, I can't cherry pick what it's saying.
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Yeah.
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And I also think there's all these compromises Christians make that I made for years.
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Yes.
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You could take sex for an example. Well, it's like, okay, in today's day and age, that is so old school. Like, have. Don't wait until you're married. Like, what? And that's the culture. Right. But I'm like, no, here's what it literally says.
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Yes.
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And what does it say about purity? And what is it? You know, all this stuff? And I'm like, there has to be someone speaking the truth about this.
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Yes.
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You know, and so there's just all these examples of the way that we're just compromising.
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Yes.
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It's like, you're not getting the full favor because you're not living the full truth, walking with the Lord. And I am the farthest thing from perfect. And I'm still working on this every day. But it's like, again, the more I learn, I have to tell the truth. It's like being at a business conference. Whoever is hosting, it's like, I'M going to tell you everything. How to build. I don't know. Let's just pretend it's a real estate business. And then you're there and you're like, they're missing. They're not telling a certain thing. You know, it's missing. Why would you do that? Are you stingy? So it's having the mindset of abundance for me. Everything I do, I learn it, I do it, I live it, and then I teach it. Learn, do teach, learn, do teach. And I just want to be generous with what I know.
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Yeah.
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And that's it. I can't fake the funk, like I said.
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So there's a saying that says, the God that you know is the God that you'll show. The apostle Paul was extreme because he got a revelation of who Jesus is. In the book of Galatians, chapter one, verse 14, he said, I did not hang out with the rest of the disciples. And part of it was he didn't want to just get their experience of what Jesus was. But instead, I stayed in the desert, and in the desert, I got a firsthand revelation of who Jesus is. So when somebody truly gets a revelation, it'll make you a little bit radical.
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Yeah.
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But then the thing that I have noticed in my career is that you do at times have to say, okay, what are the rules of this game? Let's say if I went to go speak at an NFL team, they may say to me, okay, Tim, I know you come from a background as a pastor, but this is not a religious service. And so do us a favor, stay more on the motivational side. I'll play by those rules, and I'll tell you why. Because the anointing is still going to come through 100%.
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I completely agree. Yeah.
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And the guys will still stand in line and say, can I have your cell number? Y happens every time. I could go speak at an event with a bunch of rich people at some rich person's house, and they'll say, we know your background and the faith side, the spiritual side, the pastoral side. But that is not this kind of meeting. So if you could just talk about success, I go, no problem.
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Yeah.
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Don't say one thing. This was kind of a cool thing that, you know Joseph, who works with us?
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I love him.
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Yeah. Ed Mylett did a conference, and at this conference, there was 34,000 people. It had to do with the company that he was part of. So in my speaking, I did not quote one scripture verse, tell my whole testimony, nothing. But I was on fire. It was Just like God's juice was flying through me. And so when Joseph and I left the building, a lady grabbed me like this in shock, and she goes, oh, my God, what did you just do to us? I go, well, how did it feel? And she goes, something just kept flooding over me. Because we're carriers.
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Yes. Wow.
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We're carries of the presence.
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Yes.
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That's why someone can see you on an airplane and go, like, who are you? Are you on tv? Are you in a movie? Are you? Right?
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Yeah.
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Does that happen to you?
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Right. 100%.
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Cause you're a carrier.
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You're a carrier and you lead with love. Your new brand statement, which I love so much. And I want people to see Jesus when they see me. And I think about that and I'm like, okay, get over yourself, Emily. Okay. Your day is really not that bad. Acknowledge the person standing in front of you. Get off your phone. Look into their eyes. Is constantly what I'm reminding myself of.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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For real.
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Yeah.
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And so when I'm talking to my buddies and they go, like, why did you go so deep into the Jesus side? Because you seem like such a normal guy. And I go, tell me more. And they go, you don't seem like these religious people or these people who look like they're running some pyramid scheme. Yeah, I listen to them on purpose.
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Yeah.
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Because you got to see what they don't want.
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Yes.
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And that's part of what me and you are facing. But you know that, right?
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Yeah. 100.
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How would you speak to that?
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I think a lot of Them feel so judged and shamed and they have this interpretation of church or maybe a certain pastor where they feel shame, they don't feel seen or maybe they had a thing about being in a church where it was all about the money thing or they had church hurt or whatever. I actually just had this conversation yesterday with someone where I said I don't feel called to be and to lead in the church. I will go bop in or out of churches but I feel called like throw me in the jungle, throw me in the inner city, Louisiana. Throw me with the girl, throw me with the lost so I can speak to them in a language that they understand and show God's love and let them feel that versus I think sometimes people feel like it's transactional or rule based or they're not having an encounter with maybe the Holy Spirit and they think it's something where they feel judged. And I get it because I once, once that girl, like when I was in the Midwest I would go to certain churches. Like we didn't have a dad growing up. My mom was beat a lot. We had a lot of hardship. I was single, in and out of relationships, daddy issues. Like I remember going to certain churches and I just felt like, I don't know, like I felt dirty but I felt like almost as if I wasn't accepted there for some reason. So I get that. I totally get it.
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I think that that's another reason that I love where you're headed. Because if you break down the Bible, Ephesians 4:11 talks about the five fold gifting, like the pastor, the teacher, the apostle, evangelist, the prophet. I think that you are a teacher and I think you're prophetic. I think you teach, but you're prophetic. Like you're a seer. Am I telling the truth?
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Yes.
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So you're seeing into things. A prophetic voice can see what's around the corner.
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Yeah. Yes.
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So that's why I asked you a question that really, no one can really ask you that type of question. When I say like what irritates you? Because when you have your kind of gift, you're going to get irritated a lot.
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Yes.
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Just so I could tell you this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I used to go to these mega churches. I just was at 1 last Sunday and I just get irritated. I'd be like, what did that? Why was that? And who just did this? Or why does that make sense?
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Yeah, 100%.
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Now I didn't say it, but I did think it. And part of that is because I am called to the church. And I am part of the church, but I'm also called to the world because I am an evangelist. So why would an evangelist want to just hang out in a local church all the time when we can go have house meetings or do our own conferences with 20,000 people and just shake people up? I find that exciting, too.
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I find that so exciting. Like, I've never been one. That. And again, permission to offend, I guess, if you can be offended by this. But I'm not one that wants to, like, go with all the church girls and, like, sit there at a coffee shop. What? I feel like I need to go in with a mixed bag of people. Like, that's where I feel needed and used the most. Truly. I don't know what that is. It's my calling.
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But I think. I think if you go back to the early church, that is the Jesus style. When you look at the 12 that he chose, they're coming from all walks of life, all different vibes, right?
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True. Yes.
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And so, no, I think that this is where it's at. And thank God we've been hurt, afflicted. Thank God we have even made mistakes. I saw a guy at the gym one time, and he had a shirt that said, no regrets. I thought, okay, I can't wear that shirt because I do have regrets. But it's some of the mistakes in my life that have given me more compassion for people. For real?
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For real.
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Because if I would have just been on the success side of life and didn't feel the pain of my own bad choices, I don't think I'd be in a good place like I am right now. Same makes sense.
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I feel that. Yes, 100%.
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Okay, so let's get into something I want to talk about a little bit. When I think about miracles, the word miracle, as you know, means something extraordinary, uncommon, not normal, not regular. So this podcast is called the Miracle Mentality.
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Love it.
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Okay, so give me a miracle that's happened in your life where you go, whoa, that had to be God, because I'm good. But that was God. And it could even be, like, peace in your life. It could be a door that opened the connection with your husband. Something that was just uncommon. Give me a miracle that's happened in your life.
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When I was living in la.
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Yeah.
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In Santa Monica, in my penthouse in particular, very lost, searching. I'd pop into, like, some LA churches, but then I would go do things and hang out in Malibu and go to Soho. And I still love all these places, but by the way. But I just was in a different place and I was searching for what I did. I didn't know what, you know, Attention, attention. Like, I needed attention from men. I would show my body in certain ways and it finally, honestly, like, I hit this rock bottom of okay. I can't seem to, like, keep a good guy.
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Yeah.
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All the bad guys want me. Like, what is happening? I got 10 guys texting me, but I'm so lonely. I don't really want any of.
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Yeah.
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And so it was a almost five year period of dating, but being single that I'm like, what is wrong with me? You know? And someone would be like, well, you're intimidating. That's why. And I'm like, well, come on, that can't be it. You know? And what I really realized is that I didn't heal from my childhood trauma. In fact, yeah, I had this thing with men. Dad abandoned me when I was born. The only person I'd ever been with cheated on me, stole money. I had no good relationship with a man, period. And so the miracle was crying out to God and being in so much pain of feeling so lonely, yet I looked like I had everything. And it was hitting that rock bottom moment of, oh my gosh, like, am I gonna spend Christmas alone?
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This is intense.
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It's so intense.
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Yeah.
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And that's when I realized and started to figure out after encountering Jesus, I do have a father. What the heck? I've had him this whole time. But what I started to identify and the miracle was generational transference, which is the passing down of behaviors, values, and traditions over time. And I finally studied my family lineage and I'm like, well, duh.
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Yeah.
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But I didn't realize, like, something was wrong with me inside. I had this identity issue. Right. That was the miracle for me was waking up and starting to be aware of all of that childhood trauma and then doing something about it.
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So two things I want us to note. One, I give you so much credit for the way you tell that story, because you're the person that could be at the Soho House and get so much attention and they would let you into the Soho House Malibu, even though you're not supposed to go to the Soho House Malibu just because you have the Soho House membership, because it's a separate one. But they would let you in.
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They did. Yep.
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You get my point.
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Yes.
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Okay. So you're the one that would know where to get your eyebrows done.
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Yep.
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Where to get your hair done.
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Of course.
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Who did the best extensions. Isn't it Weird as a guy, that I know all that stuff.
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All of it.
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Okay, so you had all that going on, but I love the fact that you became awake and realized, okay, why am I vacant? Why am I still void? Right. Okay, how do I get healed? All right, so let's go on this side of what you're talking about. So some people call it generational curses. You called it something else where things get passed down. Okay, explain to people who don't even know religion. They are in other religions. Some are Christians watching, because this is very powerful, what you're saying. So this is your belief system that is helping people's lives. Tell me more about this thing about how stuff can get passed down.
B
So there's generational transference, which is the passing down of behaviors, values, traditions over time.
A
I like the way you say that.
B
Yeah. And then generational curses, you could say it's similar of like, this curse was put on my family. 70% of the people are products of divorces or how many alcoholics and whatever. Okay. In your family lineage. But if you look at all of us, nobody's in the clear. Like, we all have things. Specifically, what I do in one of my keynotes, never be shaken, is I have them do the ACE test, which is adverse childhood experiences, and I have them literally do a test. And before the age of 18, what trauma did you have in your life?
A
Yes.
B
Someone bad touch you? Did you often feel unsafe? Did your dad or mom get beat? And I have people really come to this understanding of holy moly. Most of the time, 50% or more stand up in the room from having significant trauma, but they've never dealt with it. They've never talked about it. Right. And so what happens is these things manifest in other areas of our life, and we overcompensate for it. Right. So it could be like, everybody told me I was shy and I was the quiet girl, so I just became the quiet girl. And, you know, I was told to, like, sit in the corner, don't talk, all this stuff. And then now she's in business, and she's wondering why she's struggling so much in business. Well, you gotta talk. But what happens is that's a stronghold that gets embedded, oftentimes from the enemy through people, and that becomes your identity. So we gotta break that.
A
Yes.
B
So what I like to do is I like people to take a pause. Let's just assess what the heck is going on in your life. Yeah, for me, I was successful, but I really wasn't successful. Yeah, I couldn't Hold a relationship. Even if a female tried to get close to me, I would abandon her. I didn't know how to do that. Why? Because I had been abandoned my whole life. So when we look at generational transference, it's like you today. What don't you want to pass on?
A
Yeah.
B
And let's get real with it. Okay.
A
Super powerful.
B
Yeah. I could talk about it all day. Because that's how we change a nation. That's how we change a family. That's how we change a person. And I go to these events, Tim, these grown men are weeping. And I tell them, get in line and I will pray for you. And it's like porn addiction, right? Lying to their spouses, taking money, stealing, not being able to sleep because of anxiety. Like, there's all these things. But people don't have a moment to even discuss it. Cause they feel like if I discuss it, I'm gonna be a victim. It's like, no, you need to heal. Time doesn't heal all wounds. What you deal with does. And so what I like to do is, dude, we're going to get to the root of the issue. It's like a plant, okay? We got to get it by the roots instead of just chopping it off at the soil. And that's what I'm passionate about. That's how we create real change. And in order to do that, I have to be honest with them first and take off my mask. And I am so willing to be like, here is my stuff. I'm going to give you examples. Yours might look a lot different. In fact, it does. You know, but then it allows people to have that examination of. Is there any areas where I haven't dealt with that yet?
A
Yes. You know, it's an interesting thing. And you have some of your staff here, and it's good for them to hear this. Yeah, you are the first of your kind. I think that many times people will say, oh, she sounds like. And they'll say that. Female speaker. Or, oh, there used to be a lady. She talked like that, too.
B
Yeah.
A
Or, yeah, there's a guy. And he. No, you're the first of your kind. Very interesting place, that is. Because seriously, when you start talking about Santa Monica high rise, watch Soho House, dating guys, people texting me, I knew those girls and knew those guys. And that was a lot of what my Hollywood Bible study was about. With all those people who used to come to my Bible study. It's like Hyde was a hot nightclub at that time that was owned by my buddy Brent Bolthouse. And people used to say, it's like Hyde got dumped into your Bible study. That's what happened.
B
So cool.
A
And I had everybody there. So cool. And I think that when you're walking in the shoes that you're walking in right now, the key is to keep your own uniqueness. How do you feel like you're protecting your own sound and your own uniqueness? Because you have to protect your own sound and your own uniqueness. It's a good question. Don't you think?
B
That's a great question.
A
Can I give an example?
B
Yeah, please.
A
Okay. Like, people wanted Prince the singer to be like other people, but he didn't want to. So he could tell Brent Bolthouse of Bolthouse Productions. And this did happen. I want to play at the House of Blues on Sunset at 12 midnight in four days. Pack it out. And you'd see the biggest stars in the world at 12 midnight till 3 in the morning, watching Prince bringing on all these friends on stage and just blowing up Beverly Hills. Okay. Because he was Prince, so he was like, beating to his own drumbeat. I think that you have to protect that kind of uniqueness because otherwise people who don't get you try to make us like them. So what do you think about this idea of protecting your own tone, your sound, your uniqueness?
B
I think I'm always getting better, so I'll always be ahead. And that may sound like, whoa, egotistical. But what I mean by that is I'm always learning. And I'm focused on this, like, forward and upward. And so this is my source. So what you're doing over here, you're doing, like, good for you. But I just. I'm always going to be moving ahead. I'm not. I'm not getting stagnant. And that's the thing. I move like the wind of heaven's at my back, because it is. And it's like, I cannot rest too long. There's a difference between stagnation and resting. And I do. And you are the one that taught me this at such a pivotal moment in my life. You taught me, go to the holy ground. Go to the battleground. Go to the holy. It has never left me. And I think of you so often because that's what I do. I go to the source and then I go out for battle and I go to the source and I just keep moving.
A
Yeah.
B
And there's no limits with God. I haven't even reached a fraction of the capacity of the woman that he wants me to be. And I understand that. He's teaching me so much. And so that's how I'm not afraid of, I don't know, whatever, copycat. Because you can't. We don't have the same essence.
A
Right.
B
You can copy me, but your paste won't be the same.
A
And the fact that you have that revelation is amazing. And so thank goodness for the wilderness times when you were by yourself, when you had to try to figure yourself out. Because now that you're getting the revelation of who God has created you to be. Right. Because we're fearfully and wonderfully made. Ephesians 2:10. And you are understanding this. So as we bring this interview down for a landing, what are you excited about next for you? Because I see two sides of you. I see the career side that will continue to flourish. Okay. Because God's hand is on you. So you're going to flourish. Money will always come to you. And then we have this calling side, this ministry side, to really unlock people, but not just unlock them and set them out of free from prison. But you like to educate people.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. So in concluding what are you excited about right now and all the projects
B
you're doing, what lights me up is changing lives. As cliche as that sounds, I gotta be out there. I gotta be out there. And I actually told my team this because it's like, I can get busy at the office or in meetings and building businesses was like, no, I have to be out there with the people. So even yesterday I spoke at an event and the girl's like, hey, let me pull you aside. People are wanting to take pictures. I'm like, no, let me talk to the people. I gotta be out there. Because that's what truly motivates me. Feedback is so powerful. And hearing these young women and men, and they're not even all young, it's like across the board. Like, that is what ignites me. Right. So it's like staying in it. And I just trust that God is going to bring the opportunities. He's gonna move the people in my way. He's gonna put the people in the path that are meant to be there.
A
Yes.
B
And I just gotta keep being a voice, and that's my job.
A
I love it. You know, Emily Ford, best way to follow you would be what?
B
We're everywhere. Instagram. It's Emily.
A
Yes.
B
My show, which we're getting you on, called and crowned.
A
Yeah, I'm excited about that.
B
Yes.
A
And then best way to work with you because you work with people.
B
Yes. Fordivine.com so Ford divine.com Wow. Yeah.
A
Thank you for watching the Miracle Mentality. This has been one of a kind. So I've not gone this deep with a guest on faith and their faith and the role it plays in their life and for someone to be this transparent as Emily Ford has been in this interview. So continue to watch the Miracle Mentality. It's working. And like subscribe and tell a friend and don't forget these words. You may not be what you want to be, but thank God you're not what you used to be. Life is still good. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that miracle mentality forward. Visit me@tim story.com that story with an eye on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility and create your own comeback. Story.
Episode 32: Emily Ford — Breaking My Generational Curses Brought Me Closer to Jesus
Date: March 23, 2026
Guest: Emily Ford (Entrepreneur, Author, Speaker)
Host: Tim Storey
In this rich and candid episode, Tim Storey sits down with entrepreneur, author, and speaker Emily Ford to explore her personal journey of breaking generational curses, overcoming adversity, and growing in faith. The discussion spans Emily’s career evolution, her passion for personal branding, her radical embrace of Christianity, and her dedication to helping others heal from past trauma. Together, they unpack the intersection of faith, personal transformation, authenticity, and leadership, offering actionable insights for anyone looking to pursue the “miracle mentality.”
Emily on Her Calling:
On Radical Faith:
On Dealing with Trauma:
On Authenticity:
Tim on Being a Carrier:
The conversation is candid, energetic, and deeply honest, alternating between stories of personal pain and healing, practical leadership lessons, and bold challenges to live a life set apart. Both Tim and Emily model the “miracle mentality”—anchored in faith, marked by vulnerability, and propelled by a desire for genuine transformation in themselves and others.
For listeners who want inspiration to break free from past wounds, live authentically, and embrace faith with courage, this episode is both a roadmap and a rallying cry.