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It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guess, will will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow and like. Hello and welcome to the Miracle Mentality podcast. I want to appreciate you guys as I always do. Thank you for keeping me in the top 10 in the categories. I want to be in the top 10. You have to understand, there's hundreds of thousands of podcasts and we constantly reside at number four or five, and that's because of you. So you're doing what they call liking, subscribing. You're telling friends and you're also commenting. And today we have one of the best guests on the planet. When I talk about a miracle, I talk about extraordinary. And when I think of this guest, I think of how you never know when lightning can strike. So you're just like, doing something. You're good at something, and it's almost like some magic dust hits it and it takes off. But then how do you deal with it? How do you grow it? How do you scale it? How do you manage it? We're going to find out from the amazing Kat Norton today. So let me just read a little bit about her. She is a founder of Ms. Excel, a viral Excel and Microsoft Office training brand. She started posting TikTok videos teaching Excel in June of 2020. That wasn't too long ago. While working in corporate consulting. Her videos combined Excel tips, music, and dance. Want to hear about that? And they took off. She built an audience of over 1 million followers across TikTok and Instagram 1, which is not easy to do people, as you know. But she turned that into a multimillion dollar online course business, which she continues to excel with many employees that I'm sure are just as friendly as her. So today on this program miracle mentality, I want to welcome the Kat Norton. Hi, Kat.
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Hi. Thank you so much for this amazing intro.
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My gosh, that intro. That intro was good.
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That was fire.
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Kat. Let's have some fun. Yeah. There's a difference between deciding something and discovering something. When you were in high school, let's say senior year, what were you even thinking of doing? What colleges were you thinking of attending? I want to go back to the background of the young cat in high school.
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Ooh, I love this question. So young cat in high school, I was actually on the radio station. Our high school had a radio station and I had a morning talk show that I would go on with my friends. Yeah, we had a nerdy little group of friends, and we'd get on there and talk about different TV shows we were watching. I would dj, play some music, and that was something I loved all throughout high school. And then when it came to colleges, I was really on the fence between either becoming a teacher or going to business school. And I ended up applying to a bunch of schools in the SUNY system, which is state of New York universities. And the best one I had gotten into was Binghamton University, which is where I ended up going. And I majored in marketing and consulting, but then I also minored in education. So I was kind of like teetering. Didn't know if I was going to be a teacher or study business. But I kind of got swept into the business school. And really now what I do is I teach business tools. So it ended up merging and making sense. And then I also stayed a fifth year for my MBA there too, and studied data analytics. And that's really where my love of excel began.
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So tell me a little bit about the mentors you had in your life at that time. Was it your mother? Your father? Was it your friends, a school counselor? Who was mentoring you at that time when you were trying to figure out where to go to school?
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So it was really both my parents I would say I'm super close to both of them. And I was a straight A student. I was one of those very nerdy kids who would print out study guides for the entire class and hand them out. So for me, I was always really pushing myself to get into the best school, and my parents would just really support me. And they were like, you know, wherever you want to go, whatever you want to do, they were always super great about that.
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So the reason I ask is because everything has a beginning, and I think that sometimes people despise their small beginnings, and they don't realize that Barack Obama, who was the president of the United States, he worked at Baskin Robbins at one point. Margot Robbie, the actor, she worked at Subway Sandwiches, Right? Brad Pitt, he used to dress up as a chicken and be on the side of the road waving at people. And his mother told me we were trying to get him back home to say, the dream is over. You probably are not going to be a star. You're dressed up as a chicken. So it is interesting to find out the inception of something and how somebody begins to evolve into this. All right, so then you choose your major. And how did that major feel to you? Let's say freshman, sophomore year, did you feel like you were in alignment?
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I felt like I was pretty in alignment, but I also felt like it was pushing me. So prior to high school, really, I had a severe anxiety disorder, and I hated having any attention on me. I hated being in the spotlight. So picking a marketing major, I had to take public speaking classes, communication. And that was something that really pushed me out of my comfort zone. And. And I was majoring in leadership and consulting. So in my leadership classes, I had this one professor who was an immensely amazing mentor to me, Kim Jossy. And she would push me. She would push me hard, and she would have me, you know, up at the front of the room, presenting no notes, pitching a topic to the class. And I actually went on to work with her my fifth year. And through that, I was pretty much one on one with her doing, you know, different tasks where she would be like, okay, go into that room full of people who don't want us to use their mailing list and convince them. And for me, that was so nerve wracking, but she really kind of threw me into the ringer with it. So I actually got some of these different skills and had to push myself out of my comfort zone.
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So, Kat, let's go back to the anxiety side, because you may or may not know this, but I am a Counselor, therapist, life coach. And I deal with a lot of clients that struggle with anxiety and don't talk about it much. And I did see that you talked about that and also the fact that you were a little bit quiet, but we would not be able to see that now with the anxiety. When did you start to see that come up in your life? Was it when you were real little teenage years or when did that start to come up?
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Started when I was really little. So I had separation anxiety from my mom, and it started with that. And going to school was hard in middle school. I had a pass that got me out of any class at any time because I was constantly just in the guidance office crying. I used to have lunch in the guidance office. I just felt really unsafe in my body, which was interesting. I was always scared something bad was going to happen to me. And then as things got compiled on that that you would naturally do in school, like a presentation in front of your class, that would just pull. Push me over the edge. So for me, it's funny now, doing public speaking, it was literally the biggest fear of my life growing up.
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No, but this is very intense. And I think that, number one, thank you for sharing this because again, people see you now and you're doing nothing but going up with your brand and everything. You're doing nothing but going up. But if you took the crisis, then, which I call a life interruption. So a life interruption can be like a disturbance or a challenge that we face at different times in our life. It can kind of just put us in a setback position if we're not careful. Okay, so how were you able to work through that? Who are some of the people that help strengthen you and help you find your way to be able to deal with the anxiety?
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After middle school, it started calming down a little because I was being pushed by my parents to stay in class. I would go to the nurse's office and beg to get picked up every day to go home. And my mom was like, no, you need to stay in class. And my guidance counselors were so incredible with me. Looking back, they really had so much patience with me. And as I got a little bit older around high school, I was able to stay in class, but I was really left with a lot more of social anxiety and just feeling uncomfortable, feeling awkward, really getting in my head. I was a people pleaser, perfectionist, scared of doing things wrong. So it kind of shifted into that about 10 years later. And then through high school, I kind of just molded my life around it. I didn't really raise my hand much in class unless I knew I was right. Cause I was scared of being wrong. And that was something I just kind of rolled through. And then by the time I got to college, that's where my classes really started pushing me subtly to get out of that comfort zone. But I'll be honest, it's still something that affects me to this day. At times, depending on what triggers me or where I am in my head space or, you know, it's not something that has fully gone away, I still continually in this life will be pushing myself. And when you push yourself, sometimes your old triggers will come up. I didn't come here to play it small. So I'm always growing and pushing, and sometimes the anxiety does flare up, but I feel like now I have a lot more tools than I did growing up to really be able to work with it.
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And, Kat, I think you would agree that we all go through recovery and discovery at the same time. So there's things I'm working through in my life, but I could still jump on a very large stage and no one would ever see that. But I am working through things. There's a lady who's a friend of mine named Laura Morton, and she did a project called Anxious Nation, and it's about teenagers struggling with anxiety because her daughter really has been struggling with it since she was very, very young. And then our friend Kathy Ireland, who's amazing, former Sports Illustrated swimsuit model who's turned into a mogul who's worth about $400 million. She became one of the producers. And we've won awards for this documentary slash movie on anxiety for young people. And the more I studied it, I think it's an interesting thing about anxiety is that sometimes people see it as, okay, you're anxious and you're this way. Let's yank them out and make them a person. That's very verbal. But some people are meant to be a little bit quiet. So let's go there, and then we're going to jump off of this topic. So there's actually a book called Quiet that's super, super good. And it talks about some of the most amazing people are quiet. Like, some of the best artists are quiet, screenwriters quiet. People who created great companies are quiet. Okay, so tell me about this idea of your quiet. But then sometimes learning to have more volume, because it's an interesting thing here, because in high school, you were going through that, but yet you were on the radio. So how would you answer that?
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Yeah, I mean, I think for me My quiet was showing up out of fear of being seen and heard. For example, when I was in kindergarten, I wrote in my yearbook that I wanted to be a rock star when I grew up. And I think as I got older, the anxiety kept me more playing it small. And then when I got to this stage of my life, when I cleared a lot of it, I started building digital stages for myself to get to that point. But I think for me, a big part of it was staying quiet out of fear. And then now, I wouldn't say I'm an extrovert by any means. I'm definitely more introverted and quiet by nature. But when it comes time to speak my truth or say step on a stage to help someone or build something that will help someone, that's where I'm able to pass that and get into a flow state and feel really good and in my element now speaking as well. So it's kind of been learning to balance those elements for myself and not hold myself back out of fear.
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So, Kat, let's go into something that I find interesting. So when we look at your bio, it talks about founder of Ms. Excel founder and Microsoft Office training brand. And you're doing so well in courses, selling courses at a very, very high level. Explain to the people, and this is not you bragging, it's just your reality about the selling of courses and how you are reaching people in over 80 countries of the world. So I want them to see the bigness of that. And then I'm going to take you into another level, if you don't mind.
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Selling courses has changed my life and that is what creates 80 to 90% of the income that runs our world and our company. And it really all started with going viral on social media and we amassed a really large audience pretty quickly. And from there, I wanted to create a unique course that integrated fun and gamification and entertainment while you're learning these subjects. And that just took off like wildfire at different companies. We have over 30,000 students now in our courses and we work with over 400 organizations around the globe. And really the globalness of the business came from social media. So we have tons of course members in Australia, across Europe, Africa, all over the globe. And that came from having such a global audience to sell to. And then the main mechanism that we use to sell the courses is through online webinars.
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And.
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And that's something I've done, I think about 200 of them now over the last few years. And I continue to craft and perfect and it's been a really lucrative business model that's been able to help a
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lot of people, which is amazing. And the numbers that you're saying are not easy to get in any field. Even if you do online advertising, that doesn't mean someone's going to come to the webinar. So for you to be this successful is super, super amazing. So let's get into this idea of creativity, because I'm a creative. When you see this idea of Microsoft and Excel and all the things that we see that I only know only so much about, and the reason is I didn't really need to know that much about it because I was running companies and then I was hiring really brilliant people that were helping me in those areas. Okay, so now that I know you, it now makes me want to know more. What was in your mind that you said, I'm going to take something that is kind of like meat and potatoes and kind of misunderstood, and I'm going to make this particular course a little bit different.
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It really all started with my content, too, when I started looking at Excel, and it was something I had been helping people with for years at my corporate job. I became the subject matter expert at work, and they had me flying around the US Hosting Excel trainings internally at the company. And with the start of the pandemic, I was like, okay, I'm no longer traveling for work. How can I take this skillset and do something else with it? And I was on a whole spiritual journey at the time, really trying to figure out myself, what I wanted with my life. And I wrote down all the things I love, which included Excel, helping people and dancing. And I was like, how can I make something that combines all three? And that's when I saw it. A vision of me dancing to that Drake song, Twosie slide. Left foot up, right foot, slide to the left and the right function in Excel. And I had the screen above my head, and that is when I first saw it and was like, can I pull this off? I've never edited a video in my life, but I taught myself how to edit. That night, I made 10 videos. I put them together and was like, wow, this actually looks pretty cool. And that was the content style that was so authentic to me. That just took off in the algorithm because I combined things that are not normally combined. So from there, when it came to my courses, I was like, okay, obviously I cannot have a boring course, right, if you take a look at my content. So that is where I inferior fused the course content with as much creativity and fun at every step of it that I could. For example, you're learning functions. I built out wheel of functions, and I have, like a giant wheel of fortune style thing behind me. Or, you know, we do an example about hiking boots. I'm taking you outside in the red rocks where we're going to talk about that information. And then we analyze our hiking boot data. And really now with AI, it is so easy to put yourself at any place at any time. So we built studios out in our house where I can go in and just instantly be in different worlds. So we build different worlds inside the spreadsheets. We have, like a gardening world, we have a business world, we have all kitchen, and I'm dressed like a chef inside the spreadsheet world, walking you through the data. So I try to stay on the cutting edge when it comes to creativity and innovation in education because that's really our differentiator, and it is a place where I could just make something that's traditionally boring a of lot, lot more fun. We're all here for a certain amount of time, right? We might as well be having fun while we're learning. I don't want to have a boring course.
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No. So good. So when you were doing this, was it within your comfort zone or were you way out of your comfort zone? Like with the Drake song and everything that you did, Were you way out or were you within the comfort zone still of who Kat is about?
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It's interesting because I was in this very interesting place of my life that I think back on a lot, where I was on the cusp of leaving the comfort zone, Yet I had done so much work on myself those couple months leading up to it that I was almost in a state of delusion where I, for example, two months before creating my company, went to my mother and was like, mom, I'm going to be rich and famous soon, so I need you to prepare your nervous system for that. And I was dead serious. Serious, like every cell in my body. Meanwhile, I'm in, like, my high school pajamas, I'm at my corporate job, I have no social media accounts, no following, nothing. But inside my reality, I was already basically living in a different one in my head. So by the time I went and made this content, I was already so, like, energetically high on this other reality that I was so sure was going to happen that it made it easy to go out and post. But I did create some boundaries. But when I was doing this because I was very aware that other people's projections could get in my way Especially in a vulnerable place. So I didn't tell anybody I was doing it besides my mother and my boyfriend. And I started silently posting the content and until it started catching and going viral. Then my friends found out, my coworkers found out, and all of that. But I kind of kept it safe in this box where I was just silently posting, doing my thing in my zone, staying really authentic, not getting all these other people's opinions about what am I doing, what is my content doing? I was like, no, I want this to be truly authentic to me and see what happens. And that's really what created that initial traction.
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It started when I first saw what it did to my life, having this skill set. So when I first developed these skills and went into corporate, I didn't realize how good at Excel I was. I kind of thought everybody had this background. And when I got to work, I realized I was finishing things faster. I was getting promoted earlier. I was just crushing my work and feeling super calm and confident about it because I knew my spreadsheets were great, I knew my slide decks were great. And it's a tool that majority of people use in their day to day. They're either using Excel or Google Sheets and we teach both. So that's where I was like, okay, if this is a tool so many people are using and a lot of them don't feel confident in it, knowing how to use it. And I see people every day wasting so much time in it. I was like, if people invest a little bit of time in themselves to learn the skill, they will save so many hours on the back end and get promotions and get raises and be on their higher timeline. That's really my purpose on the planet is to help people get to their higher timeline of where they want to go, whether it's through mindset, help Excel, help Microsoft Office, AI. So for me, this was the easiest way to do it. And I was like, all right, I'm already kind of known for this, so what can I do to really help people get to that next level and unlock even just a few more hours in their day and then they could do what they want with that.
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Awesome, awesome. Okay, so when TikTok looked like it might actually just be done, I remember my friend Bethany Frankel, she was doing all these videos saying, see you guys later. TikTok is done. I have inside information. See you guys later. And a lot of people that had large followings on TikTok. How are you going to navigate that when a lot of how we knew you was from that platform? What was some of your thinking?
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For me, really, our TikTok account is more of a vanity metric. The majority of our selling and our content and our webinar funnel traffic all comes through Instagram, LinkedIn, our email list mainly. So for us, our TikTok isn't as big as it seems in terms of our business operations. Like, if TikTok went away today, I don't think we would feel it much at all, just based on the way we run our company now. And that's something I did very consciously. We have like a 500,000 person mailing list where I've been just consistently loading the mailing list because that is the asset, not social media, that can go away.
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Kat, let's stop at that one for a second. So your mailing list is how large?
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Over 500,000 people.
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Okay, so that is just gigantic. Because what it does, if Facebook lives ended, if Instagram was no more, if TikTok's no more, you have a direct connect to your audience. Where was the thinking behind that? Did somebody give you information on you should start acquiring a stronger, larger email list? Where did you get that idea? Because we have a lot of entrepreneurs that watch this.
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So in the very beginning, before I had even a link in my bio, a business coach had slid in my DMs, being like, hey, notice you have 300,000 followers at the time, and no link in your bio, no course, no mailing list. So that's when I first learned, like, oh, mailing lists, our thing. Then, as time went on, the mailing list was just growing really naturally due to our webinar funnels. So we were just getting insane amounts of traffic, and whenever someone would sign up for the webinar, I would get their email on the back end. So we hired an agency to build out a beautiful newsletter that we put out every Thursday and to really, like, nurture that list. And then we also leveraged the list for, you know, webinars sales. And over time, I realized that the majority of our sales come from the list, not from, you know, getting new people on Instagram. So we made that a big focus at the company. But really, it grew pretty naturally over the last few years especially, too, through our affiliate program. So I started working with a bunch of the other Microsoft Excel creators, where we give them and, you know, just other creators, finance creators, and big newsletters like the Morning Brew, and we give them a 50, 50 split of the course sales, and all they do is push a free webinar, and then on the back end, they get the sale. So that grew our list tremendously because, for example, the Morning Brew was pushing out our webinars all the time and other huge newsletters. And that over the last couple years, really doubled it.
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Yeah. So, Kat, I like what you're saying because you had the initial idea, you shared it with your boyfriend, you shared it with your parents. You'd let your parents know, mom, just know I'm about to be famous. But then you realized you needed to build out a team. But let's even go to the advertising team or the agency that you brought in to help you learn things that you did not know. Okay, who gave you that counsel? Or was that just something that was innate, that you knew you needed to do this? Because the reason I'm asking you is that let's say if there is A, a B and C level of doing what you're doing, I see a lot of people stuck in the C. And it's not a terrible thing because you're still running a company, you're still doing well enough, but it's not easy to crack into the B and into the A. It's almost like an actor. You know, I was studying this the other night, and most actors that are with sag, the average money that they make per year is less than $60,000 a year. Less than 60,000. If you're with SAG. So there's very few people that are those actors that make that heavy, heavy, heavy money. Can I tell you the percentage? It's 2%. 2%. So when a lot of young people flood into Beverly Hills to try to be these actors, what happens is that they're not realizing they might be stuck at that C level for a very, very long time. Right. For you, what made you realize I need to get a team to take me to that higher level.
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So for me, I really look at it as an intake of my energy. So when I start to feel like a task that I'm doing is lowering my energy and making me feel like ugh or dread or something I don't want to do, that is when I either look to automate or delegate it. And for me, in the beginning, it started off with creating real covers. That was my first hire. I hired Jean on our team. She's amazing, in the Philippines, and she started creating reel covers for us on Instagram. That was my first, like, big hire. And then from there it expanded quickly in customer service because we were getting flooded with customers and I was spending about three hours a day answering customer Excel questions. And that's where I had some thoughts around, maybe I should hire someone. And we started expanding our team that way. And then when it comes to social media, content creation is practically a full time job. And I wanted to free up my time. So around summer of last year, I decided that I wanted to outsource around 95% of my job and 95% of Mike's job in the company so we can travel and do what we want. And it's funny because we did it and we expanded the team and my team creates content without me every single day. We post on every platform. We have so much filmed already of me dancing, where we're able to put new Excel tips above my head easily. And I maybe make content once a quarter. And it's interesting though, we did it and the business ran and we traveled Europe for a summer and I really missed the business and I missed the fulfillment from creating and doing. And so it was interesting because it opened the door for me to get my time back to be able to do different outlets of the business and really take a look at certain areas and change things and build new things. But it's interesting now I'm back in a season of creating, growing, doing all the fun stuff, and I really thrive in that as well.
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What percentage of your company do you consider a challenge and sometimes even a crisis? So I have A lot of companies and I'm a very happy go lucky guy. But I have to solve problems on a daily basis. If it's not daily, it's at least weekly. When you have a lot of people working in different companies, how much of your company do you consider dealing with a lot of challenges or crisis? And if so, how do you keep the right mindset to keep the joy that I see that you have?
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Obviously crises happen, right? Things happen right and left. Like a landing page doesn't work or little things. But my team is really good at getting things fixed within the day. So we don't really have anything aside from like sometimes email deliverability gets us and because that's one of those things where you change something but you can't tell for a little while if it worked or not. So things like that in the business. But I think it's all the mindset around it really with the business. Looking at where I came from, I was buried in student debt. I was like 80 grand in the hole, didn't have a car, was 27, living at my parents house, didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I always kind of compare it back to that. And no matter what happens, if a landing page doesn't work, an email is not sending. My life is so much better than it was that it's hard to feel upset by it. You know where I just kind of look at it as it's like a drop in the hat. It's either something we fixed with a person, a system. If I need help, I ask for help. But I try not to let any of that really get to me because as long as it's, you know, something like not financially catastrophic, that God bless does not happen. But you know, something like that, I'm sure like I would be anxious in the moment, but really the little things, I've been pretty good at rolling off because I do realize that my business is a direct reflection of my energy field. So if my energy is off, most of what we do is passive income at this point through Evergreen Webinars, the amount of money we bring in is off. So I spend a lot of time meditating and working on myself and using mindset techniques to make sure that I, as the creator of the company, am in the right headspace. Because that not only trickles down to the team, but it also energetically affects the content, the business, what we're putting out. So I think just the lens, I look through it, I kind of just laugh sometimes I'm like, well Everything's a blessing or a lesson. And that one was a lesson.
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You know, I know. I love this. So, I mean, that's one of the things that I found by studying you the last couple of days is you do the work, whether through the studying, the research, the meditation, really also taking time off and just living life, as many people say, being fully present, fully feeling fully alive. And as you know as well as me, the mindset is yours to set. So the mindset is yours to set, but you have to take time to set that mindset. So give me a time in your life where you felt like you were losing that, where you were starting to feel like the business was getting so big that you weren't taking enough maybe self care time. And tell me how that started to affect you.
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Oh, yeah, got a great example. So this was November of 2024. I had been running live webinars every month for probably like three and a half years. And when I say running a live webinar, each month, I would run eight in about three days because they got so big that I would have to run three for myself because webinar jam caps out at 5,000 live. And then I would have one for each of our huge affiliates. They would have their own set room. So it got to the point where I was running seven or eight of these every month, and they'd run about 90 minutes. They were super high stakes because we had massive brands like the Morning Brew funneling huge ad placements of people into the webinar. And it all rode on my performance in that moment. And I think that is something where. Not that the pressure was starting to get at me as much because I would kind of like go on autopilot, but just from a health perspective, it was definitely taking a toll on me. I was getting a lot of migraines, feeling a lot of tension in my body. And like we talked about with the anxiety, I was still good at, like having the show go on, so to speak. But it was one of those things where I realized it was not good for me. It was not good for my mindset, it was not good for my physical health. And that's where I made the choice to switch everything over into Evergreen.
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One of the things I love about this podcast, the miracle mentality, is that we can learn so much from every guest and then we could implement it into our own lives. Sometimes it's your business, sometimes it's your personal life. But let me just tell you a few things that I learned today from Kat Norton. Number one, Success is finding the need and filling it. When you think about it, when she was in high school and was trying to figure out what to do, what to become, she had a lot of options. She had a lot of choices. As, you know, an option or a choice is a selection. It's like getting a menu when you go to a diner. And so she could have chosen so many things to do when she was in high school. I also like her transparency when she talked about the fact that she dealt with struggling with anxiety, even as a child, to the point where she would go to the nurse's office and asked to leave school. So think about that with whatever challenges you're facing, whatever setbacks you're facing. So here she was in the middle of a challenge of anxiety and not really a person that was that outgoing in elementary school and maybe even a little bit in high school, but she found a way to get through. So, number one, she found a need and decided to fill it. And that was going to be in this whole idea of understanding things like Excel. Then she pushed through her challenges. So I wonder what challenges you're going through today. It could be a health challenge. It could be your mindset. It could be a relationship challenge, financial challenge. No matter what Kat went through, she kept navigating. But she did something similar to my friend Elizabeth Gilbert, who wrote the book Eat, Pray, Love, and then they did the movie, and Julia Roberts played her. She went on a quest to find out more about her own personal spirituality, her own personal life. And as she went on this quest for her life, she found answers that worked for her life. Sometimes certain answers are different fits for all of us, but she found answers that fit for her life. And out of those answers, she started to really realize that we were going to know about her someday. I love that she was bold enough to tell her parents, I want you to know that I'm going to be well known. So the question is for you, do you have that in your heart? Do you have that in your spirit? That's a miracle mentality. Do you have it inside you that says, you know what? I think that I'm supposed to do something big in this life. That's what Kat Norton did. She made the announcement to her own parents and said, this is what's going to take place. But now she had this idea, and now doing the webinars and all the things that she did, she needed to build the team. She needed to build the team. So the team consisted of partners, people to fill in in different positions that she needed to service people. But also she talked about getting a team that helped her with the branding and the advertising and to let all of us know more and more about what she's doing. And I think that that's so important. So you could be the right person with the right plan, but you need the right partners. So I just want to say this to all of you that continue to watch this amazing podcast. Continue to, like, subscribe. If you could do that right now, subscribe. And then I also want you to tell a friend. So tell people about the Miracle Mentality podcast. You guys, I could be in a 7 11. I could be getting my hair cut. I'm telling everybody about the Miracle Mentality podcast because changing people's lives. So, like, subscribe, tell a friend, but also comment. Comment about what you liked about this podcast and keep on moving forward. Life is good. It can be challenging. But guess what? You got the sight of a good life. You get the right. Sometimes you got to fight a little bit, push through. And life is good. I'll see you very soon. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that miracle mentality forward. Visit me at timstory. Com that story with an ey on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility, and create your own comeback Story.
Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey
Episode 40: Miss Excel Kat Norton—How to Turn Fear Into a Million-Dollar Skill Set
Date: May 18, 2026
In this engaging episode, Tim Storey welcomes Kat Norton—better known as Miss Excel—to share her journey from anxious student to award-winning entrepreneur, influencer, and founder of a multimillion-dollar online education brand. Famed for her viral Excel and Microsoft Office content that blends helpful tips with dance and humor, Kat opens up about overcoming severe anxiety, the power of creativity, and building a business that impacts people worldwide. The conversation is rich with actionable advice for anyone aspiring to take ordinary skills and turn them into extraordinary success.
Kat Norton’s journey is a powerful reminder that leaning into your unique strengths—and fears—can unlock unimaginable personal and financial breakthroughs. By merging discipline, innovation, and self-awareness, Kat shows how turning fear into fuel isn’t just possible; it’s the foundation of the miracle mentality.
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