In this episode of More Than A Pretty Face, Dr. Azi speaks with Dr. Tomi Wall about modern rosacea management, including pulsed-dye lasers, V-Beam, combination treatments, and intradermal Botox for flushing. She then sits down with Dr. Monica Boen to discuss the resurgence of CO₂ and Erbium resurfacing lasers, evolving technology, and the cautious excitement around regenerative treatments like exosomes and PDRN. Both dermatologists share practical skincare advice, treatment philosophy, and their go-to in-office approaches for natural, effective results.

Timeline of what was discussed:

00:00 – Podcast intro & welcome 00:07 – Introducing Dr. Tomi Wall 00:55 – Why rosacea emotionally affects patients 01:40 – Types of rosacea explained 02:35 – Top at-home treatments (azelaic acid, ivermectin, sulfur) 03:40 – In-office vascular treatments with PDL 04:40 – How vascular lasers improve rosacea 05:25 – V-Beam for scarring 06:15 – Best timing to start scar laser treatment 07:15 – Treating bruising immediately after filler 08:10 – V-Beam settings for bruising 09:00 – Botox for flushing & neurovascular mechanisms 10:00 – Dilution, dosing, safety precautions 11:05 – Topicals for temporary redness & rebound effects 12:00 – Rapid-fire questions 13:25 – Close of interview 1

15:25 – Introducing Dr. Boen & her practice 15:55 – Why CO₂ & Erbium ablative lasers are returning 16:35 – What ablative lasers do & why patients accept downtime 17:25 – UltraPulse CO₂ & Erbium for deep resurfacing 18:10 – UltraClear: lighter resurfacing with minimal downtime 19:10 – Choosing mild vs aggressive resurfacing settings 19:55 – Combination treatments (Pico, PDL, Fraxel, Clear & Brilliant) 20:40 – PDRN ("salmon DNA"): buzz vs data 21:40 – Exosomes: potential & regulatory concerns 22:50 – Real complications seen from unregulated injectables 23:35 – Dr. Boen's personal favorite treatments 24:10 – Daily skincare must-haves (SPF, retinoids, antioxidants) 25:00 – LED masks: when they help and when they don't 25:55 – Final message: patient education matters 26:40 – Podcast closing & where to submit questions

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Follow Tomi Wall on Instagram: @dr.tomileewall

Dr. Tomi Wall is a laser fellowship–trained, board-certified dermatologist based in Northern California. With advanced training from Harvard Medical School and extensive experience teaching residents at Stanford, she specializes in vascular and laser-based treatments for rosacea, scarring, and inflammatory skin conditions. Dr. Wall is known for her research-informed approach, dedication to patient-centered care, and expertise in combination therapy to achieve natural, evidence-based outcomes.

Follow Monica Boen on Instagram: @drmonicaboen

Dr. Monica Boen is a board-certified dermatologist practicing in San Diego with advanced specialization in aesthetic and procedural dermatology. Trained in ablative and regenerative laser surgery, she is recognized for bringing modern innovation to legacy resurfacing technologies such as CO₂ and Erbium lasers. Dr. Boen is known for her comprehensive treatment planning, commitment to clinical safety, and ability to blend multiple modalities for powerful yet natural skin rejuvenation results.

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Submit your questions for the podcast to Dr. Azi on Instagram @morethanaprettyfacepodcast, @skinbydrazi, on YouTube, and TikTok @skinbydrazi. Email morethanaprettyfacepodcast@gmail.com.

Shop skincare at https://azimdskincare.com and learn more about the practice at https://www.lajollalaserderm.com/

The content of this podcast is for entertainment, educational, and informational purposes and does not constitute formal medical advice. © Azadeh Shirazi, MD FAAD.