In this episode, Jeremy Rochford is joined by Dr. Stephanie Holmes and Jenilee Goodwin for a grounded, clarifying conversation about why solo work and couples work are not interchangeable—especially in neurodiverse relationships. Rather than defaulting to “just do couples therapy,” they unpack why many mixed-neurotype couples stall or escalate when relational work starts in the wrong place. The discussion highlights how individual regulation, self-understanding, and skill-building often need to come before joint sessions can be productive. For neurodivergent partners in particular, solo coaching can create the clarity, language, and emotional capacity required to show up well in couples work instead of feeling flooded, defensive, or misunderstood.

They also explore why neurodiverse coaching must be handled differently than traditional therapy models. Jeremy, Stephanie, and Jenilee explain how insight-based or emotionally interpretive approaches can miss the mark when executive functioning, sensory load, communication differences, and processing speed aren’t accounted for. Coaching, when done well, provides structure, explicit tools, and predictable frameworks that reduce ambiguity rather than increase it. This episode helps listeners understand when to focus on individual coaching, when to shift into couples work, and why matching the right type of support to a neurodiverse nervous system isn’t a shortcut—it’s the difference between repeating old cycles and finally making forward progress together.

For more on Dr. Stephanie Holmes, check out: https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/

For more on Jenilee Goodwin, check out: https://jenileerachel.com/

To learn more about NeuroFam, please check out https://www.neurofam.com/

Music for the show’s intro is provided (with permission) by Matt Langston & EleventySeven. You can check out their awesome stuff here - https://www.eleventysevenisalive.com/

Music for the show’s outro is provided (with permission) by Sean Rogers & Shineunder. They don’t exist anymore, but Sean is still doing great work and can be found here - https://heyworldcreative.com/

Why Neurodiverse Relationships Need a Different Approach Than Traditional Couples Therapy w/ Stephanie Holmes & Jenilee Goodwin