
FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: In the conversation, Alex Ferrari and Leanne Thomas discuss the concept of psychic mediumship and channeling, with Leanne sharing her journey from a young girl with paranormal experiences to a professional psychic medium and channel...
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Alex Ferrari
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Leanne Thomas
I'm good, thank you. Thank you for having me on. This is a thrill of a lifetime.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, thank you so much for being. I appreciate. I appreciate you coming on, and I think we're gonna have a fun conversation about what you do, which is unique in itself.
Leanne Thomas
Yeah, I think so. I'm like the weirdo in my family, but in a good way.
Alex Ferrari
I am also the weirdo in our family. So you're not only a psychic medium, but you're also a channel for the angelic realm. So you kind of do both in your evidential medium as well. So you. You have the trifecta there, right?
Leanne Thomas
Yeah, the. The expansion of my work with. In all of those ways took off. I started with angels when I was very young, little, and mediumship became a strength for me, not knowing that channeling was even a thing. When I started, I knew what I was doing was similar to channeling. From what I understand, channeling is now, but at the time, it was just a natural experience or an offshoot from connecting to people's loved ones.
Alex Ferrari
Very cool. So before we start going down those rabbit holes, what was your life like before these abilities came into your life, or was it always there since the beginning?
Leanne Thomas
Well, when I look back on it, it was always there from the beginning, but I didn't embrace it. I didn't know what it was. I grew up in a really small town in the Central Valley of California, and you didn't want to be the weirdos in a small farm town. My grandfather grew grapes that were made into raisins. Sun made raisins, and we just weren't going to be outed that way. I had experiences from the time I was very little, and they happened in the family at something that I know now runs in the family, but no one embraced it. We just had paranormal experiences happen in the house, but nobody really talked about it or I was having more of the experiences than my siblings per se. There's a lot of death in my family from a young age. And so I think that's part of the reason things were amped up compared to, say, you know, other people that got started with this. But really my journey was I tried to be normal girl for a really long time. I became a schoolteacher in my 20s. I was a Mom. I got a master's degree in education, excelled at teaching, went back and got a second master's in teaching. And so I kind of just really tried to be like, normal route. I'm just like everybody else out there, except I was having experience experiences. They took off really strongly in my 30s.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, I can see. I can see you as Mrs. Thomas in a. In a. In a classroom. There's no question. I could see that. I see that energy in you without
Leanne Thomas
the teacher energy in me being on time, showing up. Yes, absolutely.
Alex Ferrari
So. So your story is similar to so many that I've heard before, is that they've had. They grew up with these abilities, these experiences, but rejected them either because of family, because of society, because of community, and then it just gets so loud that you can't ignore it anymore. Is that kind of what happened to you in your 30s?
Leanne Thomas
Correct. Things had happened to me in my 20s, but I got myself busy studying, learning, working, all of those things, and just did my best to ignore it. And it became to a point where it couldn't be ignored. I was having so many bizarre synchronistic moments that I had to answer that call. I had to figure out what was going on with me. And I ended up in a class. And on my way, driving to the class, I just spoke out loud to the universe, if you will, and said, all right, I'm going to figure this out this weekend. I'm either crazy and I'm going to go get help after this weekend, or this is something real. So I'm down for which way it goes. That's how it happened.
Alex Ferrari
What I love what you just said there is that your reaction to this is very human and very grounded. Like, am I going crazy? And if I am, I need to go get some help. Or this is real. And this is, again, some. A similar song. It's a similar note that I hear in a lot of psychics and channelers abilities and their journey is that there's that moment where am I losing myself? Like, because if I started hearing voices, I started seeing dead people walk by, I would be like, dude, what the hell is happening?
Leanne Thomas
Right?
Alex Ferrari
And if you're not trained or if you don't have someone guiding you through the process, it's terrifying. I'd imagine. Was that kind of it for you as well?
Leanne Thomas
I don't remember being terrified except for when I was very little or very young, because there were people that would walk through the room and sometimes they glowed. And that was the part that freaked me out. I remember when My grandfather passed away. He came and stood in my room, and I begged him in my head not to go. I knew what was going on, even though I didn't know what was going on. And he just stood there and talked to me through telepathy. His mouth never opened. I was bargaining with him. Please don't go. I'll be a better little girl, eat my vegetables. I won't argue with Mommy. Right? And then I hear my mom scream from the other room and drop the phone. And I knew my grandfather. He was gone after that. And he comes now and then. I've even seen him before, just from the waist down. Really weird experience to see half a ghost, if you will. Although he's not a ghost. It's. He's a trickster. He always was when he was alive. And that was my first experience. But of seeing them young. The angels were my very earliest memories of being very young, of sitting on the floor of my bedroom and playing with my Barbies and the angels. And so that's. I didn't know anything other than to call them angels because they looked and showed me themselves as what you would depict in pictures of guardian angels. I was raised Catholic, and so I went to catechism, and I didn't go to Catholic school, but I went to catechism. Right. And raised Catholic and then Lutheran later. And the depictions that we had of guardian angels as being little. So I knew what to call them. My mom would talk to me and say, we don't really see them. You're not really seeing. You know, you're not really playing with the angels. You know, God's real, Jesus is real, the angels are real, but we don't get to see them. And she has since told me later in life that that was her way of trying to help me not turn strange. So didn't know it at the time. It was her. It was her best effort at keeping me from being an outcast in some way or identify strange or other kids being afraid of me because she had seen that happen with others in the past and she didn't want that for me and in her best interest, but, I mean, she couldn't keep it away.
Alex Ferrari
So in your opinion, do you believe that as a child is born, they are much closer to spirit than they are. Every year that goes by, they get a little bit more detached, a little bit more entangled in this reality. And it takes you a minute to kind of remember or bring your frequency down to that level, which comes. That we come in naturally with that frequency.
Leanne Thomas
Right.
Alex Ferrari
All this programming, all this muck that gets tossed on us, we kind of lose our connection and then the occasional gut, gut reaction, intuition. These are the little bit of the psychic things that fall through. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. But then some, some of us, you know, as you go through it, you start to meditate more, you start going back and you start to try to get back to that frequency. Does that all make sense to you?
Leanne Thomas
That's exactly right. That's exactly how it happens. And some of us just tend to keep more of that energy than others. But everybody, at any point in their life, it doesn't matter if they're 20 or 70 or 100 can begin to bring it back. And meditation really is probably the most helpful way to reignite that spark within us, that divinity that connects to the infinite field and then therefore, the spirit realms and all of that. A meditation teacher studied with Sarah McLean. And so meditation is near and dear to my heart.
Alex Ferrari
That's amazing. So, so you, you're. You were raised Catholic. I as well, am I a recovering Catholic, like the joke. So when you've decided to kind of come out publicly about this stuff, as you were going through your journey and you started to really embrace these abilities, how did it, how did it affect you psychologically based around the people around you? Because I'm assuming in the Catholic religion, as they always say, you're. You're talking to the demon, the devil, you know, blasphemy, all. I mean, there's a thousand things that the Catholic Church does not like about the work that you do, or even the work that I do, for that matter. So how did you. How did the people around you deal with it? And how did you deal with it?
Leanne Thomas
I was very secretive at first and protective of what was happening, but I had to discover what was going on because it wasn't normal. And I told my husband that was the first person that I had told that something was going on with. And we had a conversation. He says, I don't know that I understand what's going on or what's happening. He says, but I know you and I trust you, and so what do we need to do with this? And I started there, and he just kind of helped to keep my secret for as long as possible. As a school teacher, of course, you want to be mindful of not igniting panic in such a traditional setting, but I had close friends that I was a teacher with for a long time. And I told some of my friends and told everybody not to tell someone, and they were the people that I practiced on first. And then they told someone and they told someone, and eventually, like, everyone knew. And then parents were coming to me, I had principals coming and asking if they could have a reading. It just started to open up. But at that time, I was living in the Bay Area, in the Silicon Valley. My husband's a big tech person, traveled around the world and managing teams of tech people. And so we lived in such an open space to have that. But I was still very protective of it at first, fearful that my reputation that I had spent so long build, building up would break down. And I guess God had another plan, because the word spread like wildfire, and I was very much supported. It was in my own family that I had problems with some siblings that didn't sit well with or were concerned. My mom struggled with it. My stepdad embraced me. It was just such a beautiful moment that I got to have with my stepdad and a challenging relationship when I was younger. So it was such a mixed bag. But I want to call people that are having that experience forward just to embrace what's going on with them and be that fool for God, if you will, and trust your calling or that talent or exploring it. Most people are really going to be surprised how it will get embraced, especially in the coming years. We're going through big, energetic changes on our planet, and we need to be that force of peace in the world that brings our intuition forward, makes it normal. There are actually priests out there that are embracing mediumship on some levels.
Alex Ferrari
Catholic priests?
Leanne Thomas
Yeah. Catholic priests, yeah. There's a woman named Marianne Bohr, and she wrote a book called the Gift Within Us. And she sought to find as many talented intuitives, healers, angel channelers, psychics, mediums. And she talked to them, talked to some. Some archbishop. And so she's written about that in her book. And he said, we know it's a real thing. We have nuns that speak to the angels, he told her. And so it was she. We are seeing somewhat of a transformation in small pockets of things like that. So, I mean, we've got to be brave and bold. We have to open that energy up of peace and love for this world.
Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. That's really interesting that that's happened. I mean, can you imagine, 20 years ago, 50 years ago, a conversation like that wouldn't even existed? And that. That. That it. That it is opening up even. Even small pockets where this is going to go in 100 years. I mean, it'll get to a place where, like many things in the Catholic Church, they just can't deny anymore. They can't. They have like, okay, all right. Hell is really not a physical place. It's kind of a set of. It's a mindset, is what the late Pope Francis said. All the hardcore Catholics lost their minds. But there is. There is a shift happening even within. Within the Christian and the Catholic religion. There is a slight shift, but it is slow.
Leanne Thomas
I also believe, because this is what's happening, the consciousness is shifting. People like me are coming out. There's what you're doing in the world. That's why I believe that AI isn't going to take a negative turn and destroy us because our consciousness is shifting. It'll be a tool. It'll be a useful support. You know, like in my grandmother's days, she was grateful to have a washing machine. Right? And I remember when my parents were first getting an ATM card, how afraid they were that that was the mark of the beast. And now we don't think anything of it. I'm not kidding. It was a conversation in the house. Right. I bet other people have had that too. But that. That fear is going down because we're raising consciousness here. We're struggling with it on this planet in certain ways, but we have to dislodge some of that negativity and that pitting one another against each other for like, religion or Democrat, Republican. And it's coming to the surface so that we can begin to heal it. And there's avenues such as this that are getting the word out so that we can raise the consciousness. And so we don't need to be afraid of AI or transhumanism. I don't mean to say that we should ignore it and pretend that it's not going to be an issue, but I really feel like we're moving into the space of. From what the angels have shown me and told me, into a space of not needing to fear that we're going to become part machine, part human. Right. And so we don't need to fear people. The world is becoming more and more of a beautiful place. We don't see it all happening at once right now. I know people are worried, fearful, but things are shifting for the better, and this is how we get there.
Alex Ferrari
How is an ATM card the mark of the beast?
Leanne Thomas
I just felt like that's how you bought and sold things was the conversation. They had to get money from the machine. They had to use the card as a way of getting transactions or money that, you know, that kind of thing. That was the conversation. They were. I just. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, my God. So I. So if the ATM card giving them issue. I could only imagine when you said, hey, guys, I'm a psychic medium now. That must have gone over like a ton of.
Leanne Thomas
There was like a good maybe 30 years between that time frame of shift for them going, okay, this isn't going to be the apocalypse now, because people are going to the bank with a machine, right? The machine's taking over then. You know, people were fearful when they were playing records backwards and getting messages backwards in records. You know, in the 70s, I remember that and my parents being fearful of the music we were listening to. And so, yeah, I was a little bit of a problem when I came out with this. But they also knew me as that school teacher and that mom and that, you know, a very stable individual. My mom always said, you're like the crazy person in the family, but you're one of the most stable. She's like, well, my kids, if I had to count on someone, you would be the one I count on for something. And so there you go.
Alex Ferrari
That's amazing.
Leanne Thomas
We're totally normal as crazy people.
Alex Ferrari
Yes. I think, well, that's the term. Crazy is a whole other conversation. It's just, it's just, you know, everybody was. Everyone thought, you know, so many different visionaries were crazy. And that's how we kind of move things forward. I find it funny that I remember that the Catholic Church, when glasses were invented, thought that was the devil's work. Because you're. Who are you to change God's will that you're losing your sight? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Leanne Thomas
Right? Oh, yeah, I didn't even think of that. I don't remember that, but I'm sure. Yeah. Fearfulness.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, yeah, it plays. It plays. Yeah. Galileo. Yeah, he said.
Leanne Thomas
Oh, gosh, he was. Yeah, they really, they wanted him dead. Poor guy.
Alex Ferrari
So when you. So as a psychic medium, as an evidential medium means that the kind of readings you do with people about loved ones that come in.
Leanne Thomas
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Usually have some sort of evidence. Can you explain what evidential means for people who don't understand that?
Leanne Thomas
Right. I seek to pull forward as much, I guess you can call it data from whoever I'm linking with. And as the link gets build with someone's spirit, their soul, if you will, as they step forward and I don't get to choose who decides to step forward in a reading. They make the decision. I wish I had control of it. I don't. I'm a little bit of a control freak. But they, they still work with me anyway, but they link in. And then my process is I'm like Barbara Walters for the spirit world. I've got the questions and I want to go for some that are, are quick to get yes or nos. Like I'll ask, you know, family, not family. And then I'll see them stand somewhere besides the person. I'll say hierarchy, show me. And they'll stand in a certain way. And I sometimes have to help them, you know, know where to go. And I just start navigating in my mind of conversation with them to get the information because it's not conversating or having a conversation like I am with you. It's a. It's energy that's coming through. That's why it doesn't matter if somebody speaks Spanish or German or, you know, whatever language in the spirit world. It won't make a difference. We're using energetic links. They call them the Claire's. You might have heard of clairvoyance. Clairsentience. Clairaudience is hearing. And so sometimes I'll just hear directly, you know, Rose is here. Rose is Here and then I.
Alex Ferrari
In your mind or.
Leanne Thomas
Right. I'll hear it in my mind. I do hear. Not regularly. Once in a great while, it'll be outside of my head. They'll get my attention. When I'm by myself, I'll hear things. Especially on just falling asleep or waking up. I'll hear certain things. And I think a lot of people have had that experience. But when I'm doing this on purpose, then I've set up a process so that I can get in there and get the information. So. And it can be whatever. I feel like I'm a. The dartboard that little kids have with the Velcro balls and spirits just starts throwing stuff at me. So I have to ask questions to get the energy to match up. I have to raise my vibration. They have to bring it down somewhat. And we have to learn to navigate with one another. My energy is a frequency and a vibration that might be different from a different medium. So frequency and vibration. Right. And so we're. We have to link in. We have to match frequencies and vibrations. So I have to get them. I have to help them. They help me get on that vibration to pull in the information. You know, I got. Sometimes I get first names and last names, you know, for a client. You know, when I'm doing demos or we call them. Demos are galas where in front of an audience and they have to fight a little harder to get themselves known. And I'll say, I've got the grandfather Jack here. He shows me that he was in the Navy, and he wants to say that he had a problem with his abdomen, even though he passed from the heart. And then, you know, somebody will raise their hand. That's evidence, right? We're looking at how we can get to some data point. So someone goes, that's this person.
Alex Ferrari
Is there an on and off button for you or is it open or closed sign for you? So are you on 24 7? Meaning that any moment and you're in the shower and someone pops in, hey, it's Uncle Bob.
Leanne Thomas
And I actually have an Uncle Bob.
Alex Ferrari
Uncle Bob shows up all the time.
Leanne Thomas
Not all the time, but, yeah, not in the shower. They just see us at energy, though. Anyway, I have. How I would describe it is a dimmer switch. Like, I will be more. It's more turned off, but it's not ever. Just nothing. And sometimes I'll be worn out and I don't have to dim the switch. Like, I'll have done a dam. I'll have more than one client in a day. Or, you know, be channeling for something. And I will. My energy will feel. I'll start to feel big. Like, it'll feel like this. Like my head's out here. And so then it's. It becomes fuzzier. And I know that I've spent my energy and can't get clarity like I want to after those moments. So that's a way of having my dimmer switch. You would think just a glass of wine would dim the switch, but sometimes it just gets it going. Like, my friends know, like, get her a glass of wine and we'll see what happens.
Alex Ferrari
They'll.
Leanne Thomas
They'll. They'll. Well, you know, I have good friends that. We've been friends since before high school. And so they're loving and kind and caring, and it's. We don't make a mockery of the spirit world. But, yeah, I do. I just tell them, back off. Not now. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not reading the. The gal at the grocery store. I'm not, you know, not walking around reading people. I'm just being normal, girl. Right now. I'm getting my groceries, doing all the things like everybody else does.
Alex Ferrari
It's interesting that, from my understanding is that the spirit world, when they're. They're on the other side, looking for a way to connect with their loved ones, let's say. And let's say they hang. They're hanging around, you know, Beth. So Beth is, you know, she's 45. She's sitting there at the supermarket and. And go, uncle Bob. I love Uncle Bob. Uncle Bob is there standing with her, just doing what spirits do. They're watching, They're. They're protecting, they're guiding, maybe even trying to sneak something into their intuition or in their mind or something like that. And then all of a sudden, you come along into the supermarket, and they can see you in a way that. That others can't, because you're almost like a beacon of light. It's almost like a ding, ding, ding, ding kind of thing. And they're like, oh, there's a medium. I want to talk to Beth. Let me go over to her and see if she could. I can convince her to come over here and tell Beth that something's. Something is in the fourth drawer on the left, and that's where they're going to find the million dollars. Or something along those lines. Is that kind of the way it works?
Leanne Thomas
Yeah, I mean, it can. So sometimes the spirit world kind of sets me up, and it almost happens the same way every time. I'll be, let's just use the grocery store. Because it's literally happened in the grocery store more than once. I'll be in whatever aisle, looking at whatever. And somebody will approach me and say, do you know you look exactly like Sally Fields? And it's always Sally Fields. And I will say, yeah, I've heard that a few times before. And they'll be like, you just look so familiar to me. What do you do for a living? And I'll be like, no, no, not right, right. And so, yeah, that's a term that I have used before. A school teacher. And I'll sometimes, you know, I'll say what it is that I do. And I just make the most effort to not share messages. I just don't think it's ethical to walk around doing that. Somebody approaches me, I'll say something and we're in a public place. I'll usually just excuse myself, I'll share my name. And if they want to Google it, search it or find me later, then they can.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, because. And that's really interesting point that you said, ethical, because there is an ethics to being a psychic medium because you can, you really could screw up somebody's life very, very. If, if you just go around, start telling people, I gotta tell you something, Uncle Bob's here and he cheated on your aunt and that's what happened and that's why she killed him. Like, whatever, whatever these kind of things are, right. I mean, if you throw that at somebody, it could, it could destroy them, it could skew their life. So really is a, an ethical thing that psychics have to do, not to, first of all, not to give information that's unsolicited.
Leanne Thomas
Right.
Alex Ferrari
Also, be careful with solicitation. Like if someone's coming to you for a reading and a message comes through that is, could be very damaging. I'm assuming there's a fail safe, hopefully somewhere in the conversation between Spirit and you talking to the client, where they would say, you know what, I'm going to reframe this a little bit. I'm going to take out a couple of these details. Because this, based on what your experience is with the client at the time, it could really hurt them. It could really not do what they're looking for. Does that make sense? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show.
Leanne Thomas
Right I'll do and what I train some of my students to do is to step into the moment. And so I'm going to use a client of mine and he's actually now even in the spirit world has since passed on. So and I did have his permission before he passed to share his store part of his story. I wouldn't share somebody's story. I'm like a priest that way. I'm not sharing. I don't, I'm not giving, I'm not saying who came to see me. I'm not any of that. But he's given permission and now he's in the spirit world. So Ed came for a reading. Very well dressed man, suit came in looking very dapper. Probably at that point in time he Was in his late 70s when I first met him. Sat down in. In my chair in my reading room. And I start picking up on this female, and she's coming into view, and she's standing there by a lamp light like a lamppost. And I could see the San Francisco Pier, Pier 39 behind her. And she had a big toothy grin on her face. She was an older woman. And all of a sudden, sailors in the vision that I was being given were walking by her. And I'm like, oh. And I'm just. In my head, I'm like. And so I said, I have a female here and she's standing near the San Francisco pier by a street lamp. She's giving me very positive energy vibes. But. And so I'm stepping into the energy. She really likes her job. She's smiling to me, and she really likes her job. And he just starts. Once I said lamppost and pier, he just starts nodding like this. And so I said, so she shows me a happy face and that she really liked men. Make sense. And so I'm stepping into it. And so he's like, yep, makes sense. And so I keep going. Turns out that his mom was known as the happy hooker. And that was his mom, right? And so I went, she shows me that she's happy. She wants to mention that she really, really likes men, and she's happy and happy about it. And he said, well, my mom was known as the happy hooker, so you can't make that up. But I stepped into it, right? Like I want to. I don't want to shock someone. I don't want to say, was your mom a hooker? Right? Like that's. You want to step into the message at times in order to present things. You know, when I've seen murder suicides, I want to start with a way I want to step into the message to not re traumatize someone. And I ask people, do you want to know everything you know? And most people say, yes. Some people say that they don't want to know that they're going to die. And I'll say, oh no, we're all going to die. So I just kind of breaks the ice with that. And I always just tell them that I don't know when they're going to die. It's above my pay grade, so I'm not going to see that, most likely. So I proceed from that space of wanting to also hold space for the client. But I have to be that voice for spirit. I've had people tell me they've Had a loved one come in and they tell me they don't want to speak to that person. And I'm like, well, in my head I'm like, you got to go. You got to, you got to go like some, you know, and sometimes I have to say something for that soul because I serve spirit first and then I serve the client. And so every now and then I have to say something and it'll get them to go so that somebody else can come in. And, you know, as evidential as I like to be, sometimes there's just a piece that I don't get. Like, I'm going for it. I'm doing all the tap dancing I can in my head to reach for the information if somebody's got a question or something. But if I don't see it, I can't give it. And so it breaks my heart. And it, it's, it's, it's. I want to be able to give all of the evidence in the world, but I give what I get and then I can't stay upset.
Alex Ferrari
Fair enough. Fair enough. Now, you mentioned as well that you started channeling. That's like I said, you have the trifecta and you do multiple versions of trans. You do trans channeling. You could also just do a direct conversation with Jelly. And you, and you do the angelic realm, right? You channel the angelic realm.
Leanne Thomas
Yes.
Alex Ferrari
So when you say the angelic realm, is it the archangels? This is just the realm of angels in general. And there's a collective of angels speaking to you. How does that work?
Leanne Thomas
Right. And so it can depend on the situation that I'm in. And so someone's guardian angels might step forward in that way or a group of guardian angels. So if I'm going into trance for an individual, then it would be their team of guardian angels and then archangels that would be working with them. But if I'm doing it for a larger scale kind of audience, it's mostly been the archangels. And sometimes they'll call themselves the angels of the Akash or they'll be angels that. I don't know if they, I would call them guardians of the Akash or somehow they're somehow angelic gatekeepers for the Akash. And I want to clarify what the angels have told me, who they are. And so they're evolved souls over eons and eons of time that didn't necessarily have an earthly life. There are a few exceptions, but they have their evolved souls that took on the role or the job, if you will, of Being an angel. And when we think about the archangels, we can see that, that that's a role that they've taken on. Archangel Raphael, being in Healer Angel. Right. Archangel Ariel, lioness of God. Right. Our guardian angels come with us lifetime over lifetime. And it's not past lives, if you will. Like we think of it, you know, we think of time in a straight line fashion, in a linear fashion, but it's really kind of the ever present now. And so, but they're there with all of us as we're experiencing things because they don't. They aren't limited by time or space such as we are, but they're evolved souls. And sometimes we get the impression that's how I've learned what they've told me. What I grew up getting the impression was that, that God made them from the ever present now if you will, only to be guardian angels or archangels or seraphim or, you know, the hierarchy as it exists. And that's not the experience that they've shared with me, but they, over their evolution of their particular energy, their soul, if you will, that they took on a role or a job to become whatever the guardian angel, the archangel, the seraphim, and that they step up into like a position or a job based on that level of evolution.
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully said. So can we do a little channeling?
Leanne Thomas
Yeah, let's do that.
Alex Ferrari
So can you explain to everybody what's your process in channeling?
Leanne Thomas
Oh, I take a moment to quiet my mind. I've trained in meditation and so I know I'm going from my beta here, having this conversation into alpha and then sometimes even deeper. And so I'm, I'm here. I'm still here, but I'm not here, if you will. I just let the energy flow through me by changing my brain state of. From. From Wednesday. Thank you. Sorry, they're interrupting me already. I just kind of go quiet. And then there'll be the ship. Be direct if you'd like. Straightforward. You can talk loud. They don't mind. I'm not sure exactly who's going to want to step forward. I feel a group gathering themselves already and think of it's okay to want to know and to push for something direct. Like yesterday someone wanted to say, will there be earthquakes in California? And then they went right into explaining how they saw from the Akash, how that may unfold for us and things that were already destined and then say things that weren't. So know that they're very, they can be very clear and direct when they can be.
Alex Ferrari
Okay.
Leanne Thomas
That makes sense.
Alex Ferrari
I like direct angels.
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Alex Ferrari
It's those angels that beat around the bush that I just can't stand. That's just.
Leanne Thomas
Yeah, okay. Okay. You're gonna get along great. Okay. We are present with you here and excited to hear what you would like to know.
Alex Ferrari
Thank you for being here. My first question is, what is the current energetic trajectory of humanity? And how close are we to a collective awakening? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Leanne Thomas
There are pockets already in existence on your planet with a tipping point. There are beacons of light in areas in just about every corner of the world. These lights are such as a candle lighting one another as it goes. There is a back and forth, for there is levels of darkness, if you will, that have been seeking to blow out some of these candles. But it was with great pleasure to see that frequency and vibrations are holding stronger and holding the light stronger. There is a movement into your year of 2027 where there will be an experience that you have. And even with your show, we speak directly to you, Alex, that will provide more information and expansion to light people up even more. That will not be the complete tipping point that you are asking for, but you will see the signs around you begin to shift as you notice anger in your world in points of war that we let you know with surety that these things can turn into blessings. Perhaps not in the moment. And we do not want to suggest that anybody's pain or suffering is of joy to any of us here in the angelic realms. But to know that it is for naught that souls have chosen to wake themselves up in a particular way, such as with some force or aggression. And that is a wake up in some form to dislodge things as they are, to disturb the status quo, to shake the foundations of society so that these pockets of darkness no longer have the threatening hold that they have had on humanity for so long. The Awakening is happening. It is a movement. It will continue to move forward. You will have more and more signs of this and be more assured of this as you move into the year of 2027 and even beyond that more. That does not mean that there won't be pockets of challenge and suffering on your planet. There will be. We see this as a sure thing, that in the Americas there will be a desire to clean up the soil and food sources. And Alex, we say to you that this will be a sign in your heart and mind, and the connections that you will be building and the more knowings of things to come will be become lighter steps for you to recognize. And we ask you, Alex, too, in your heart and mind, when you need to be held sure that things are moving in a good direction for you or your family, those that you love, or the public in general, to call upon Archangel Uriel, for it is I who will light some of your path for you so that you can hold steadfast in your divine calling, to be part of the Awakening as you have a solid foundation as roots of a tree into the ground in this process. And we thank you for you taking that on as part of your birthright, your soul contract and fulfillment of that is in process.
Alex Ferrari
Thank you so much for that. Is it can. Is there a year that you can tell us, or close to a year that there is this tipping point in consciousness where love will outweigh fear on a global scale.
Leanne Thomas
We see where you are going with your question, but we would like to pose somewhat of a perception that growth and expansion, knowledge and learning often comes through some challenges. The obstacles in your way help to grow you and evolve you. And so the tipping point is on an individual basis. We value that as much as seeing humanity as a whole shift into a yearly number, if you will. The number is harder to see for the year of a great tipping point that way. But as hearts and minds of individuals tips, we rejoice in that. And more and more is happening now. It's interesting to see because they tip one way. They tip back at times through challenges and struggles and the expansion for love and kindness. Harmony, living in one's felicity is of a challenge. But it is designed in such a way so that you can admire someone's peace even in the moment of challenge, that you can see the growth that you have taken on from times of discord and imbalance in your life to finding that balance and then holding your balance now in such a way that is easier for you because of those challenges. So to dissolve darkness completely perhaps would be a disservice. How does that sit with you?
Alex Ferrari
That's it's fine. That's it's fine. Is there a divine timeline or sequence of events that we should be preparing
Leanne Thomas
for spiritually on an individual basis? This is always the case. For every lifetime carries that light within them to move that direction. And then through many lifetimes or life experiences that can grow as humanity as a whole, as a collective consciousness is in a movement towards more light, towards more peace. This will be evident as your earth shakes in some ways and earth changes happen. So that the unity that exists inside of each of you becomes more important than the division. It is through the division that exists that is keeping you all from reaching that tipping point. We value that term. It is quite appropriate to think of a tipping point as a direction to cross over a threshold, to hold more of a balance towards one another, of love and in unity. For you, already all are in unity. You have decided to, as a humanity, as a collective consciousness, to experience the challenge of disconnection. So we feel you are mostly speaking of the reconnection of the live and let live be at peace. You may be different from me. I will honor your differences while you honor mine. It is a movement in that direction as you will witness through earth changes and Mother Earth changes that will support one another needing to come together despite differences in places of the world that will need it while you are not there. Now we say that this is soon and when we say soon we mean in a lifetime. Soon does not mean tomorrow or next week, but it will be perhaps in the lifetimes of both you, Alex and Leanne sitting here and many listening will experience more of this while there will still be some discord and still be differences as you experience the world shifting and changing and perhaps shaking, that you will see one another come together more. This will be a beautiful and glorious way to experience challenge on your planet, will it not?
Alex Ferrari
It will. It will. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. How can humanity and also as an individual, how can we more align more deeply with our divine purpose during times of global unrest?
Leanne Thomas
This is the beautiful and magic question. Must start from within. Check on your own discord, your own challenges from within of where you are negative towards the self. If each individual checked in with their personal demons if you will in the mind, the beating of oneself, the thrashing of oneself and start there. Be kind to the self and then reach out with that kindness to all that in your sphere. Family or friends or neighbors. Don't forget about the animal kingdom and we reach out that way. And then you reach out as you who have the platform to reach many of spreading the word of challenging people to see how they can be a force of peace in the world. In their minds and in their hearts. For prayer, positive intention and thought reaching collaborative meditations wishing goodwill and forgiveness from the heart to someone that perhaps doesn't even deserve it. But you do it because you want to be a force of peace in the world. If each and every individual light which you all are decided to be a force of peace in the world, we would see these conflicts and these challenges of warring and territory and lack mentality would end. This is the way towards it. But it must start from within each and every individual person. It is the man in the mirror first.
Alex Ferrari
How do angels help bridge the gap between human doubt and divine trust?
Leanne Thomas
The silent whisper, the. The. The small voice inside that almost sounds like your own. It's the inspiration that we bring together in we are. We are at your beck and call at a moment's notice. We cannot interfere with the trajectories of an individual life or the plans that each individual has set into motion. For your life plan is divine. It is between you and your soul. And the infinite divine. The all that is that has no form but brings form to everything is where the design comes from. We won't interfere. And it can be hard to understand why.
Alex Ferrari
Is there a universal soul blueprint that ties all of human souls together?
Leanne Thomas
There is a source energy connection that existence vibes from. It is a frequency that can be at times felt as a sound or a vibration. But it does link all things together through time and space. It is a living force, if you will, that connects all, moves through all. If you are to think of the smallest particle particle that you could think of nanoparticles. Neutrinos. Neutrinos move very singularly. They move through every cell of your body. A neutrino that moves through you, perhaps moved through a dinosaur and another being. And they flow through, connecting things, gathering energy and sharing energy as they move through. Yes, there is a force that moves through you, that move, moves through all. All that is.
Alex Ferrari
How do generational souls contribute to long term healing and evolution?
Leanne Thomas
On it is through the connection. If you were to remove perceptions of time and space. When we think of generational we are passing. There is a passing forward of DNA, of cellular essence from one to another, generation to generation and. And picking up the torch, as it were, from grandparent to child to grandchild. And threads of that energy move through and in an effort to expand upon information, knowledge and data that exists from one lifetime to another. And the idea of healing comes from the perception that consciousness is expanding. It is an exciting thing that the looking at from the perspective of trauma was placed here. And how can we do better is a healing. And that threads of that pass through an effort to create that healing are cords of source energy that have that love expansion. And as that healing occurs, if we were to use the word healing, it creates a vibration in a generation. And they pick up the vibration and they pick up inspiration and they think of desires to do things different or better or other than that was taught. And they move forward with it. And new things can expand and grow from that. Is there more you would like to ask on this? Have we answered to your liking?
Alex Ferrari
Yes, you have. I have a couple more questions. How can we better recognize signs and messages from the angelic realm in our daily lives?
Leanne Thomas
More is being interpreted and picked up than the mind sometimes wants to accept. You become more accepting. You participate in the receiving. You acknowledge something interesting, synchronistic, perhaps fun or enlightening. So through the notes of a song, the words spoken from somebody in front of you at line at your coffee house, the finding of a feather, a coin, and cherish that moment as being divinely held and acknowledged. Acknowledgement will go a very long way for others. Play with the acknowledgment. Question it, it's okay. And also secretly in your heart, know that you have been given a nod from the angelic realms, from the spirit realms and other beings of light. And maybe just hold it in your heart for a while and keep it a secret. Others may want to dim that light. Sharing with everyone isn't necessary, but holding it into your heart is very helpful.
Alex Ferrari
What are the most misunderstood aspects of divine guidance from the angelic realm.
Leanne Thomas
In what aspect would you like to approach that?
Alex Ferrari
I don't really know that the, the aspect of. There's a lot of myths, there's a lot of misunderstandings about what the angelic realm can guide us or angels can guide us with angel numbers and signs and butterflies that show up and these kind of things that are signs from the angelic role and guidance. But there's a lot of misunderstandings. Can you kind of clarify what those are?
Leanne Thomas
The concept of being fixed or problem solved for you is not in your true, in your essence, from your soul, truly wanted. Therefore, we will not interfere with your decision making or your free will. We will allow for you to walk the journey on both free will and destiny, and we will support that. We will continue to be the whisper, but we won't intervene to create something that will throw you ultimately off a lesson or a learning path. For you want your lessons, you desire growth and evolution, so we will step aside for that. So that is a misconception. Most people feel that they are we, they should ask us and we should solve problems for you. Not necessary. You are good. You are fine.
Alex Ferrari
There are so many wars going on right now currently in the, in the world. Is there any end and to this, any end in sight with these wars or even new potential wars that are
Leanne Thomas
starting to bubble up, the energy of war still exists on the planet and exist in, even in individuals where they are warring with yourself as individuals continue to war within themselves. Until you do reach that tipping point where people surrender themselves into divine love and guidance, that wars will continue to break out. Perhaps it will dwindle over time into skirmishes, but this is something that will take much time, will not be quick, will not be soon. On your planet, we see more involvement into war like behavior in what you would call your near future.
Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Leanne Thomas
Some expansion of this will happen, but we ask you to fear not, for you are participating in those listening here in the weakening of this energy. But as the energy displays, you will find some of these skirmishes loosen their tight hold on the planet more quickly than others. But we do not see this ending perhaps in several decades or more. That is not to say current wars will exist the same as they do before. That will not be the case. We sense that at your time of about 2027 and perhaps a little further in, there will be a slowdown of this activity. Unfortunately, there will be an uptick or the potential for the uptick of it happening again. But as you continue to do your work and those listening do their part, there is a softening that happens even if the tipping point isn't here. So please do not be discouraged with the news of war and the threat of wars and the worry of war, you are being divinely held and protected as to not destroy one another. This will not be allowed, but the experience of war in some way is still desired by some on your planet. Unfortunately, we see this being the case for quite some time.
Alex Ferrari
And finally, do you have any parting messages for the audience? Or is there something that is the message that you want humanity to hear right now.
Leanne Thomas
Your soul has a plan. Your life is of value. And you are all, all listening, important and valuable. The thoughts that you bring into the world about yourself and where you live are of value as well. We ask you to check those thoughts. We ask you to bring some gentleness and kindness into your thoughts. We desire for each of you to know that you matter. And when you feel that you matter, you can spread and share the knowledge of that know too, that no soul will be in harm's way with any earth changes or things happening on your planet unless it has already been in your divine plan of your making or choosing. So you need not worry. You will not be in harm's way. From a soul perspective, it will all be for meaning. You are safe, you are protected, and you are watched over and loved. We ask for you. Please call upon us. Think of your guardian angels as your friends. Think of the archangels as helpers. And you are not bothering the spirit world by asking for help. So please do know that we won't interfere with your life's journey, but knowing that we are there and watching the synchronicities and the signs, as Alex so well knows of them, has shared them with you here today, please pick those things up in your heart and mind and move forward with them to be that force of peace in the world that you all can be. And with that, we will close.
Alex Ferrari
How you doing, Lynn?
Leanne Thomas
I'm good. I think my eyes are watering. Sorry if I drink of water here. Please, please.
Alex Ferrari
Of course. A lot of energy coming through.
Leanne Thomas
Was that helpful? I hope it was.
Alex Ferrari
It was beautiful. Yeah, it was beautiful. It was a beautiful energy that came through. I think it. It's going to help some people.
Leanne Thomas
That's the point of this.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, let's help some people. Now, Leanne, I'll ask you a few questions I ask all my guests.
Leanne Thomas
Okay.
Alex Ferrari
What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
Leanne Thomas
For me, a fulfilled life is uncovering and discovering purpose, or I should say like my purpose, and then using that as a source of helping others in the world. It's very fulfilling to be of giving of talents. That's very fulfilling. I think gratitude brings, you know, the gratitude for that brings fulfillment to people and looking at even our challenges is growing and evolving us and making me into something started as a lump of coal and some point a diamond. I'm hoping that's fulfillment is using your gifts and talents.
Alex Ferrari
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Leanne, what Advice.
Leanne Thomas
Be brave, trust your intuition and floss daily.
Alex Ferrari
Also, take care of your knees. You'll miss them when they're gone. What? And what would little Leanne tell you right now? What advice would you?
Leanne Thomas
You've got this. You're doing it. You're making magic happen. Don't give up.
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully said. How do you define God or source energy?
Leanne Thomas
Divine conscious intelligence that has no form but brings form to all.
Alex Ferrari
Beautiful definition.
Leanne Thomas
What is love from a human perspective? It is the experience of connectedness.
Alex Ferrari
If you could ask God one question, what would it be?
Leanne Thomas
Why is there adult acne? I really that been wanting to ask that for a long time.
Alex Ferrari
True that.
Leanne Thomas
Yeah. I think I just have silly things to ask God like that. Gosh, the adult.
Alex Ferrari
Good question. That's fine.
Leanne Thomas
It's such a good question.
Alex Ferrari
A good question.
Leanne Thomas
Hey, leave it at that. We'll leave it at that. That's. I'm not gonna like that I did that, but there it is.
Alex Ferrari
It's fine. It's the most profound question we've had on the show. What's up with this adult acne mean? It's just mean, man. There's no point in it. Wrong. So how do you define liberation in this lifetime?
Leanne Thomas
Freedom to me is through my soul and through my free will and my choosing. Liberation is breaking free from my ego mind and the challenges and my fear based thinking and beliefs. Breaking free of fear.
Alex Ferrari
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Leanne Thomas
Reach for the inner peace that exists when within us all the time, even in moments of challenge.
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully said. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?
Leanne Thomas
My website is angelic hope.com I will be up and down California coast in San Jose areas coming soon with events, Facebook and Instagram. Is Leanne Thomas medium?
Alex Ferrari
Simple as that. And do you have any messages to the audience, for the audience?
Leanne Thomas
Be kind to yourself. Be kind. Start there.
Alex Ferrari
Leanne, it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you. It's been such a wonderful conversation. I love the angelic realm and the angels that came today. I think they're. Their energy is going to help a lot of people watching this episode currently and in the future. So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet. So thank you.
Leanne Thomas
Thank you as well. It's just I'm so tickled pink to be here. So thank you.
Alex Ferrari
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In this profound and heartfelt episode, host Alex Ferrari sits down with Leanne Thomas—a psychic medium, evidential medium, and angelic channeler—to discuss her unique journey, the nature of spiritual gifts, and, most notably, to channel a direct message of hope and guidance for humanity from Archangel Uriel and the angelic realm. The conversation delves deeply into the current state and future trajectory of collective consciousness, ethical considerations in mediumship, and practical advice for living a spiritually aligned life amid global unrest.
Early Experiences & Family Dynamics
Coming to Terms with Her Abilities
Transition from Teaching to Public Mediumship
Evidential Mediumship
Ethics and Boundaries
Nature of Angels and Angelic Channeling
Channeling Process
Archangel Uriel (via Leanne):
“There are pockets already in existence … just about every corner of the world. These lights are such as a candle lighting one another as it goes… The Awakening is happening. It is a movement.” (49:37)
On Collective Tipping Point:
“As hearts and minds of individuals tip, we rejoice in that…to dissolve darkness completely perhaps would be a disservice.” (54:02)
On Preparation for Collective Change:
“Mother Earth changes will support one another needing to come together despite differences… soon… in a lifetime.” (56:04)
“You really could screw up somebody’s life…there is an ethics to being a psychic medium because…if you throw [unsolicited info] at somebody, it could destroy them.” (34:03)
Alex Ferrari:
“If I started hearing voices or seeing dead people walk by, I would be like, dude, what the hell is happening?” (07:11)
Leanne Thomas:
“Be brave, trust your intuition and floss daily.” (78:24)
Archangel Uriel:
“Your soul has a plan. Your life is of value...You are safe, you are protected, and you are watched over and loved.” (75:19) “Think of your guardian angels as your friends… You are not bothering the spirit world by asking for help.” (75:19)
On Divine Guidance:
“The silent whisper, the small voice inside that almost sounds like your own. It’s the inspiration… we are at your beck and call… But we won't interfere with your decision making or your free will.” (63:09)
“Your soul has a plan. Your life is of value… You are safe, you are protected, and you are watched over and loved. We ask for you. Please call upon us… move forward with [synchronicities and signs] to be that force of peace in the world that you all can be.”
This episode is a radiant call to personal courage, responsibility, and faith—echoed by both human and angelic voices—to guide listeners toward hope, unity, and the next level of their soul’s journey.