
What if death wasn't the end... but the beginning of remembering who you truly are? In this profound conversation, Mariko Frederick returns to share what happened after her Near-Death Experience and how it unlocked an extraordinary ability she calls...
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Mariko Frederick
All?
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Alex Ferrari
Welcome to Next Level Soul. The place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness and and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari. And every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, A space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind and prepare to step into your Next Level Soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series and guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next Level Soul tv. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion Mariko Frederick. How you doing, Mariko?
Mariko Frederick
Hi. Thanks for having me again.
Alex Ferrari
Thank you so much for coming. You are, you are such a unique guest for me and I'll explain to the audience why when I first met you, you were, you came on as a near death experience and you know, that's how we, we spoke about your near death experience, that you died, you came back, and when you came back, you had new abilities, things really changed for you. And, and if anybody's interested in seeing that, we'll put the link in the show notes for, you know, for people to go watch that whole conversation about your near death experience. But that was, that was kind of, you know, when I want to have a near death experience around, generally that's, that's it. We're good. You know, you did, you told us your story. And I generally don't have near death experiencers back generally. Sometimes I do, but very rarely. But for whatever reason, I always had you stuck in the back of my head. It was the weirdest thing. And then you started telling me about astral therapy, and then we did a session of astral therapy. But when we did that, it was one of the more profound things that's ever happened to me spiritually. And we can, we'll, we'll dive into that in a little bit. But I always had you in the. It just, it's not like we talked every week or anything like that. I think six months later or a year later, I just text you and I'm like, hey, do you, this is what we're thinking about. Would you like to do it? And you're like, oh, absolutely, let's, let's rock and roll. And, and now we've worked on a course together, we're working on a series together for Next Level Soul TV as well. And you flew down here to Next Level Soul Studios to do all the shooting and stuff. So it's just, you're a very unique person in, in the, in the scope of what we do at Next Level soul. Because it's. It's rare. It just doesn't happen very often. So you are an amazing. You have an amazing energy to you and you're absolutely wonderful. So thank you for being here.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh, thank you for having me. It's been so fun since we first met and the journey that we've had over the past couple years. I've had so much fun. And yeah, I think the near death experience, for me, it's like the tip of the iceberg. You know, it's what people kind of like get introduced to me, the story that they find out about. But for me, in my personal life, you know, that was like. I mean, not to downplay it, but for me it was kind of a blip. I mean, not physically. It was really hard to overcome that physically. That was not a fun 10 years afterwards. But you know, spiritually and like, with what I'm here to do and with what I want to share with people, yeah, it was sort of the tip of the iceberg. So I'm grateful to get to come back and to share more both in the course and everything that we're doing with everybody.
Alex Ferrari
So when you came back, what did you come back with?
Mariko Frederick
Right?
Alex Ferrari
Like abilities wise and what opened up in you? Because that really kind of leans us into the rest of the conversation.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. So I think probably with a lot of people who have NDEs, we come back with a little bit of the other side. Like, we don't come back the same.
Alex Ferrari
Not like a horror story. No, not like a horror movie. Like all of a sudden, like, I brought something back.
Mariko Frederick
What do you think of, like, pet cemetery?
Alex Ferrari
That's exactly what it is. It's a Stephen King pet cemetery.
Mariko Frederick
No, it wasn't. No, thank God. It was not like that.
Alex Ferrari
I scared one of those.
Mariko Frederick
Don't bring that on. Maybe a Halloween episode. I don't know.
Alex Ferrari
He came back with me anyway.
Mariko Frederick
Okay, now I'm freaking out. No, no, no. I get scared easy. No, not like that. You bring back the bliss. It's like you come back with this imprint of the other side with you. You come back like, you come back almost like you've been reformatted with infinity and with a knowledge of it, but not in like an ego. Look what I know. But more of like, oh, this is who we all are. I'm no different.
Alex Ferrari
I just had to die for this to open up.
Mariko Frederick
That's right. Like, I had to die for like a second or a little longer than that. Like so. And I'm always joking with people, like, it would be amazing if everyone could just die for a second because we would all have this understanding of the infinite and infinite love and everybody would kind of stop fighting and arguing about anything because it doesn't matter. But you come back, not with just like the knowledge mentally, but it's like an energetic, you're changed, your frequency is completely different. And then it's like you have, gosh, it's hard to explain, but it's like you have the library of truth with you, in you, in your heart and with all that there is to know and learn. It's just simply love. Infinite love. And I think that's what I came back with, that's what everybody probably comes back with, is not just an understanding, but that you embody that you are love. We are all love.
Alex Ferrari
Well, you've been given the information, that knowledge, if you will, you, you've taken the bite of the apple in a way of the tree of knowledge because you are seeing the truth. Now where this is not truth. This is an illusion. This is Maya. This is a dream, essentially. Yeah. This is the Matrix.
Mariko Frederick
It, it's totally the Matrix and we are Neo.
Alex Ferrari
No, but then you got a glimpse of the other side. And once you get a glimpse of the other side, you can't take that back, unlearn it.
Mariko Frederick
No, I mean it's, it's funny because we say a glimpse of the other side, but you're in infinite time, so it's not even a glimpse. You know, when I died, I remember they were telling me to come back and I was like, go back and be who? Like I've been here. People have asked like, how long does it feel? And I'm like, it's infinite. There's not a. But I'm like 800 years. I don't know because there's not seconds. I don't know. Right, right. But it's kind of the same like it felt like hundreds of years. And by the time they told me to go back, I was like, do what? Go where? Be who? And it was, it was not fun coming back. It was kind of devastating because now I have to go back into illusion and go figure out how to be this person. Mariko was not easy.
Alex Ferrari
Right? So yeah, let me, let's dive into that for a second because when, when people do come back from. When people come back from the dead and it just sounds weird when you say it like that, but when people have a near death experience and they come back, there is an acclimation period of how do I deal with this world now with this new information and then also be this person now that I am. Like the old version of you is gone. Stay dead, it's gone. There's a beautiful movie which I hope one day I can get on the platform. It's an older movie from the 90s called Regarding Henry. Do you remember that movie with Harrison Ford?
Mariko Frederick
I know the movie. I can't remember. You know, I don't remember everything right.
Alex Ferrari
But it was Harrison Forum and that Bening, I think, I think J.J. abrams wrote it. He might have direct, I'm not sure. But it was about. He was an a hole lawyer, Harrison Ford. And he was just a mean, mean person. Then has an accident, has a brain injury. When he wakes up, he's the sweetest human being on the planet and he has to figure out how to re acclimate to his world where everybody had disdain for him. He was a very powerful lawyer, but his family, his colleagues, they don't know how to deal with him and he has to try to deal. So I imagine that's kind of what it's like coming back from a near death experience.
Mariko Frederick
I think so, yeah. And then you have this. So yeah, it's almost like you're like, okay, I'm back in this pretend world, but everyone thinks it's real. So I don't want to like mess
Alex Ferrari
with them because they get angry.
Mariko Frederick
Some people.
Alex Ferrari
Oh yeah.
Mariko Frederick
Or some people have a lot of questions and honestly I wasn't ready to talk about it. It took me almost 20 years to talk about it. And how old were you? I was 29.
Alex Ferrari
Okay.
Mariko Frederick
So it took, I don't know what it took, 18, 17 years for me to start getting comfortable, something like that, you know, and it's so sacred. It's almost like you. For me, I didn't want to talk about it. There's no human words to talk about it with. So even when we say the words like bliss, infinite love, it's like meh. It kind of falls short of what that experience truly is. And I think it's important that it's not an experience, it's you. That was not me experiencing something, that was me experiencing me. Me experiencing the soul, a unit of God's consciousness. And that's what we all are. And then we come back to this world where people are very human and worried about stuff that you're like, gosh, that doesn't matter. And you just want to like share that.
Alex Ferrari
It just doesn't matter.
Mariko Frederick
It doesn't matter. What matters is that they're getting out of alignment with their soul and. And getting in their minds or their ego or whatever and arguing about stuff or worrying about stuff. And that's like. That's the hard part. When you come back with so much of the frequency of truth, the frequency of infinite love, how do you then. And what do you do to communicate that when nobody there speaks the language of infinity? Right. So it's like, what do I do? And then they send you back with an assignment on your soul. And I'm like, I don't even. First of all, I can't. I'm sick, so I can't, like, get up and do anything. And second of all, how do I even communicate this? How do I explain the realms? How do I explain that this isn't the only place? How do I explain that you are all basically. Essentially a unit of God's consciousness, that we are all one? Yeah, we hear that, but, like, really feel it and experience it. And I think the weight of that. I'll say blessing, but also, you know, 29. It was a responsibility. It was. It was a lot. I was completely.
Alex Ferrari
You're figuring it out still at 29?
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, I have no idea what's going on. And then now I'm supposed to do this thing.
Alex Ferrari
You. You had no idea what was going on prior to dying at 29? Right.
Mariko Frederick
I mean, no offense to people who are 29, but, you know, you're trying
Alex Ferrari
to figure it out.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I mean, even people who are old souls and all the things and like, yeah, we are, but we've only been here 29 years, so there's still a lot of figuring out to do.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, there's. Yeah, it's. It's kind of fascinating to. I. You know, sometimes I speak to Ascended masters on the show, as one does regular Tuesday. Regular Tuesday. Whereas, you know, is Jesus coming? Buddha's coming. Great. I've had Buddha on the show in forever. But when you speak to these Ascended masters, a question I always ask them is, like, what is it like? Like, what was it like being here at the time when humanity's consciousness couldn't even grasp the basic understanding of the Kingdom of heaven is within you. Something. Everything I can do, you can do. And more very basic teachings that were revolutionary to the point where he. We're speaking of Yeshua, where eventually they're like, yeah, we can't have this guy around anymore. Let's take care of this situation. And they. And they got rid of him. And that happens to a lot of these Masters, but walking around with the knowledge at a very high level. I mean, we're talking about mastery level, and you're basically talking another language, something they can't even. Only a handful of followers. And even their followers are like, the apostles are still. They were still trying to figure it out. You know, some of them messed up a few things along the way, but it was very difficult. So I could only imagine, for someone like yourself coming back, not that you're an ascended master, Right?
Mariko Frederick
Well, that's the problem. I'm not. So then I'm just like. I'm just a regular person. What do I do with this?
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, you've been given a glimpse. You've been given a glimpse of the other side, and you've also been. You've brought back a glimpse. Not pet sematary style, but you brought back a glimpse.
Mariko Frederick
We don't want that.
Alex Ferrari
No, no, no, no, no. We don't want the creepy kid in the corner or that cat. But you've come back with a bit.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Of the other side. And you. You are aware of what the truth is. And that's what happens with people when they awaken. That's what's happening around the world right now. People are awakening more and more and more and more. Consciousness is rising. But then to speak to your family, to speak to your friends, to try to deal with colleagues or careers, and it's. It's so difficult to kind of navigate your life in that world. And I know you've had challenges.
Mariko Frederick
I have. Yeah. Now I'm used to it. And I, you know, if I talk to somebody that I knew 30 years, who only remembers me from that time, it's like, I kind of sweetly joke that it's like talking to my echo. It's who I used to be, and I'm totally good with it now. You know, we could talk about whatever. It's not who I am right now because it's not just bringing back a glimpse. It's bringing back a piece of the frequency and then embodying the frequency and then taking, for me, you know, years and years to figure out how to. How to share it with people in a way that's not just words, in a way that helps humanity with their frequency. Because me just sharing a story is interesting, fun, entertaining, but not changing anything. And what I knew, what I came back with, was an assignment to help shift something within people within people. But it's not like they gave me an instruction manual that I could read with like, you know, a list of, like, here are the 10 things you're doing. The ascended masters just shifted my frequency. Like, like I've said, it's like giving a box and I couldn't open it and I don't know what's in it.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Mariko Frederick
And then open sluggish, gotta use it right? Like good luck.
Alex Ferrari
You know what this reminds me of? I'm gonna kick it back to the 80s. There was a show called the Greatest American Hero.
Mariko Frederick
Oh my gosh, I love that show.
Alex Ferrari
And that he got a super suit without the instruction manual and he just bumbles around. He can barely fly, but he's super crushing. He's super strong, but he doesn't know his own strength. He has no idea what the suit does. The aliens gave him this suit. And that's kind of what happened to you. You're the greatest.
Mariko Frederick
The greatest bumbler.
Alex Ferrari
Because you're bumbling around like, you've given me this. These power. But what do I do? How do I use them? How do I help people? Right? Because that's. It's kind of like a joke.
Mariko Frederick
I want to come back. I'm like, seriously, It's a cosmic joke
Alex Ferrari
that they play on. Thank you.
Mariko Frederick
It was. And I'm authentically. You know, I'm a goofball, so I am that. Anyways. And then I've got this thing I'm supposed to do, and then what I didn't know because nobody was telling me. Who was there to tell me was, it's not about doing anything. It's about being. So I had to take the years to say, okay, this did happen. It's okay that it happened to you. It's okay that you might know something. You don't have to be ashamed of it. You don't have to feel imposter syndrome around it, which was a huge thing for me. Right? Like, shouldn't Deepak between this. Like, am I even qualified for this?
Alex Ferrari
Oh, oh, don't you know? Yeah.
Mariko Frederick
The imposter syndrome.
Alex Ferrari
Are you kidding me? Like, I'm like a spiritual show for me. Like, what is this? I still look around Hollywood. I'm like, I'm looking around going, this is. This is. How is this even a thing? I don't understand it. But apparently you know the story. Everyone knows the story. Or that I was told to do it by my spiritual teacher, and I'm like, you're insane. And blah, blah, blah. And four years later, we have a million followers. And it's like, what is. What? Yeah. Like, how is this a thing? So I get you. I completely under. Talk about imposter syndrome. There should be someone else doing this.
Mariko Frederick
And you had to go in four years. Like, I've been doing this for a long time. I got decades.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, yeah, it's been truncated. No question. I've. Yeah. It's been a wild ride. It's been. And it's getting wilder.
Mariko Frederick
It is. It's going to get even wilder.
Alex Ferrari
So you have told me things.
Mariko Frederick
So things are. Things are. Like, hang on to your seat here. So, yeah, it's a lot when you're here to do. I don't like the word do because people want to. Like, what do I do? Nothing. That's the thing. There's Nothing to do. You be the person who can do the thing for you. Your spiritual teacher was like, haha, this is what you're gonna do. And I remember you were like, no thanks, I can't do that. But you've become the person who can do it. You said yes to what you're meant to do. And now things are growing. And that's really the first thing to do when you feel like you're here to do something more. When you have an assignment on your soul, whatever, that you don't do anything. You sit with it and you become the vibration, you become the frequency. You say yes, even if it's like a little whisper that's like, oh my gosh, okay.
Alex Ferrari
Open that business. Write that book. You know, leave that job. Yes. This other thing.
Mariko Frederick
Yes.
Alex Ferrari
You know, those little whispers which eventually turn into a sledgehammer, by the way. It starts as a tab, a little whisper, little nudge, and then eventually the sledgehammer comes like, you're fired.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
From your job. Forced, you know, or something happens in a relationship and now you. You have to leave.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
You know, kind of thing. It's. I've learned a long time ago to just listen.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Because if not, it. It just get. It doesn't end well for you because you're going to go there anyway because that's what you've. You've. You've made that agreement with your soul. Your soul made that agreement like you're gonna come down. Your soul made an agreement like. Yeah. About when you're 29, you're. I'm gonna die. And I'm gonna need that to set me on my path of what I'm gonna do. It's not gonna be easy, it's not gonna be fun, but this is the way I'm gonna do it. And that's. That was the plan. Is that. Am I correct?
Mariko Frederick
Exactly.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I mean, I resisted, you know, a little bit more than what you. But yeah, I resisted a lot of resistance. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
You know, a lot of people don't know I stopped the show. Oh, wow. I started it. April. April 21, I think, or Easter of 2021. By the end of the year, I was. I stopped. And everyone knows how. How much content I put out every week. I was doing one every month.
Mariko Frederick
Wow.
Alex Ferrari
That's how bad I was just like scared, terrified.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Imposter syndrome.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Until I got a kick in the butt by. By Connie, my. My teacher. And then I went all in. But it was a big leap of faith and I've Been taking a lot of those lately.
Mariko Frederick
Get used to it.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it's. It's a lot of that. But. But the, but the goal is still the same, is to help people, and that's what kind of keeps you going. And the effect that these kind of things that we're doing, you and I both in our own ways, are helping people around the world. You know, this conversation is going to be listened to by a bunch of people.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. And we're here for a blip. Like we're here for. I always joke that it's like. It's like running to 7:11. It's like an errand. Our soul, it's so fast.
Alex Ferrari
Did you hear Jordan Peterson wrote it, said something so profound the other day. I saw it somewhere on social media where he's like, when you die, your, your. Let's say you die tomorrow. Your wife and your kids. Let's say you still have a wife. Your wife and your kids will prepare the, the, the funeral. And they'll prepare the, the, the. The wake, all that stuff. And a day after it's done, they'll maybe laugh about some things you did in the past. And a month later you'll be a. A faded memory. And a year and it just starts. And then you start to realize. Does it. You know, once your kids are gone, who's going to remember? Like, if you're lucky, you're remembered in 100 years. If you're lucky.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But most don't, you know, and it's okay.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
You're here for a moment.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
For more in a thousand year, how many people from ancient Rome do we remember?
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
I mean, really, like a few of a handful. Right. Unless you're a historian.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
And even then we're talking about kings and emperors that you remember. How about the millions and millions and millions of people that lived in Rome?
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
In the Roman Empire.
Mariko Frederick
No clue.
Alex Ferrari
You know, Egypt, you know, it doesn't. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter that you're here for the moments that you're here. Use that time wisely. And I think as we. We've both gotten older, you start to realize, like, oh, I think I'm closer to that than I was.
Mariko Frederick
We're halfway done. Like, we got a good time.
Alex Ferrari
I think I don't. Where am I in this road? Like, am I. Did I pass the halfway point already? Like, I don't. Holy crap.
Mariko Frederick
I know.
Alex Ferrari
You know, I'm like, farther away from when I was born than I'm closer to when this journey is going to be over, and you start to think about things in a very different way.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
So now it's. And even then, it's not easy. You're still trying to figure it out because you got to deal stuff every day. Every day. Now, I want to talk to you about our session. Now, this is something I've never spoken about publicly before, and I'm. I was kind of saving this for when we spoke. You told me when we first. First did our interview, you're like, hey, I love to give you a therapy session. And I get offered stuff all the time by. By guests and people who want to be on the show. Hey, I'll give you a free reading, or I'll give you free. That. I'm like, oh, sure, why not? Sometimes I do it. Sometimes I'm like, I'm good, thanks. I don't chase the. The psychic. I literally have a Rolodex full of some of the greatest psychic mediums and channels in the world. And I never. I never call. I rarely, if ever call anybody going, what's gonna happen? Like, it's not something I do anymore. But when you recommended. You're like, I could do astral therapy. I'm like, what the hell? That's intriguing. What's astrotherapy? Can you explain to people what astro therapy is? Because it's something that you've brought back.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, it's something I. I guess I did. I brought it back, and I. Well, I don't know if I brought it back so much as I've always had it. So you know my story. Well, I didn't remember. Like, I forgot, but I stayed conscious between lifetimes, and I thought everybody did until I was a teenager. And then I found out we didn't, and I was like, oh, geez. So I've always remembered being in the other realms, being in the higher realms before I was born. I remember who I was in my last life. And for me, it's one long memory. Just like the past year is one long memory. So I remember it, but not in that I forgot. And I'm, like, recalling it through akashic records or something. I just remember it all. And so when I was young, especially when I was a baby, I would go into the higher realms. I'd go into the causal realm, and then I'd come back and be in my body. And so I was always traveling into the higher realms. And then as I got older in grammar school, I would go into the astral realm. And when I was. I was going. I had some Abuse happen. And to escape the abuse, I would go into the higher realms and hang out there. And so I've just done that my whole life. And I didn't know that. Not everybody did. I remember specifically thinking that talking about it was taboo and that we weren't allowed to talk about certain things. Like, when I was little, I was in preschool, and I remember. I think we talked about this on. I'm not sure what show I talked about this on, but I see lights when I turn off the lights at night. To me, there's, like, millions of little lights. When I was younger, there were bigger lights and they were different colors sometimes. And I remember seeing them floating by, and I kept reaching out, like, oh, I can get one of those, because no one told me I couldn't. So I was reaching and reaching. I'd kind of, like go right through the air. And then eventually I grabbed one and I woke up with this astrally projected object in my hand. And it was shaped like kind of a toy. It was a animal head with a long human body.
Alex Ferrari
As you get in Toys R us
Mariko Frederick
in the 80s. Totally. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Is that a Thundercat? I think that's a Thundercat.
Mariko Frederick
So I ow us Gen X. So my. So the adults around me were like, where did you get that? Where did you. Thinking I stole it from Toys R Us. You know, as kids kind of sometimes grab stuff we have kids, like, they're like, oh, like, have we paid for that? You know, I used to.
Alex Ferrari
My mom asked me to go pick up something in the supermarket. I started putting in my pockets, but I was like, fine.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
She's like, don't. Don't do that. They're gonna think you're stealing the yogurt. I'm like, what? I'm just caring.
Mariko Frederick
I'm all of them, right? We're following instructions. So I realized that it was, like, a bad thing. So I put it in the cookie jar and would check on it every every once in a while. And it was there until it wasn't, and it just disappeared. So. But in that moment, I got kind of afraid of myself. Like, I wasn't supposed to do that. And they think I'm lying because I'm. They're like, why'd you get it? I'm like, from the lights. Like, bedtime is amazing, right? Like, I don't know what we don' about this. I must have been the easiest kid to put down, like, bedtime. And I'm like, yes, this would be so much fun.
Alex Ferrari
Just toy giving lights around.
Mariko Frederick
What did you get last night.
Alex Ferrari
What are we not talking about?
Mariko Frederick
This?
Alex Ferrari
This is amazing.
Mariko Frederick
I know. I used to think that like I get so excited and just think like my parents must be having so much fun. My sister like oh my gosh, what are they getting? Where are they going? Apparently not. Or they were and they just don't remember. Astral traveling, you know, that could happen too. Dreams. So. Because we don't trust ourselves. So I come, I, I just stopped talking about it and then I got sort of the, the next layer of that As a teen he was 18 or 19, I can't remember when, when someone told me that people don't remember those kind of things and I was like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't talk about it. So when I died and came back, I knew in my heart and soul that I was meant to. But I was also like, I will share all kinds of things, but not that one. So it was a, it was a journey of discovering that or, or more giving myself permission that it's okay, I'm here for a second, it's not a big deal and I'm going to do what I'm here to do. And then as we get older we really start caring less about others opinions.
Alex Ferrari
It's magical as, as the 80 year old without his shirt on gets out in the middle of the morning to go get his paper because he still gets a paper and he's just like how you doing? And just like does not love it care in the least. No, no. It's as the older you get, the less Fs you give.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. And I think that's also why it took us so long because we had to get through that.
Alex Ferrari
Because as you get older you just start to realize it. How? It's like things that you worried about in your 20s or 30s or 40s, you start to like oh my God. Things that remember high school. Anything. We both have kids.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
So both of us have about similar age kids. My God. Everything is like oh my God, don't say that. Oh my God, don't do that. Oh my God, you're embarrassing me. Oh my God, oh my God. All this crap. And you're like you're not going to know these kids in five years. You think you're going to be besties with it. Like sure, maybe, yeah, maybe. But that's rare. Like so just enjoy. If they're your true friends, they won't care. Yeah. Enjoy yourself. So it's fat. But as you get older you start to just really not care. Especially if you've died and come back, then you really don't care.
Mariko Frederick
I mean, people think sort of, but also I did. I was afraid, but afraid of different things. Afraid of different things, but, like, what people think of me and the things, things I'm like, whatever. Like, it doesn't matter, you know, I mean, I've already died. I've already died. So the idea of, like getting fit and looking my best, I'm like, I'm happy to be walking and talking. So perspective, my perspective changed real quick.
Alex Ferrari
So what is astral therapy?
Mariko Frederick
So astral therapy is what I was doing when I was little. It's what I've always done. It's going into the higher realms. Only I figured out that instead of me going and getting the answers and telling people in a session or whatever I'm doing, why not come with me? Like, wouldn't that be more fun? So I developed astral therapy as a way for me to bring people into the highest realm that they've been incarnating in. Or at the very least the astral realm, which is where most people go after we die. A realm of light and vibration. Yeah, actually there's, there's, there's other emotions there too.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, yeah?
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. It's not always fun.
Alex Ferrari
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And now back to the show.
Mariko Frederick
So I bring people, at the very least, to the astral world where they can experience a little more of the truth of who they are. And for what I call higher realm beings, I like to take them to the highest realm that they've ever incarnated in and are accustomed to, to get re acclimated to their truth as a higher realm being. So they can stop acting so human, get to work, do whatever they're here to do. Write the book, write the song, put out the podcast, speak on stage, whatever the thing is.
Alex Ferrari
Start that restaurant.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, yeah. It could be new tech, it could be anything. It doesn't have to be spiritual. But whatever you're here to do, the higher realm being that you are is ready. The human is the one waiting and figuring it out and having imposter syndrome. But your higher realm being the truth of who you truly are, that part has the whole blueprint, is ready to go, has a plan, knows what to do. And so I just find it faster and more efficient because again, we're halfway done here. I don't have a lot of time to get. I don't have a lot of patience either sometimes.
Alex Ferrari
Sure, sure.
Mariko Frederick
We talked about parenting earlier. That was funny. So I figure it's efficient to say, why don't you, like, I'll bring you up to the higher realms. Go experience who you are. Let's go chit chat with your higher realm guides, your intergalactic team, your angelic realm team, your dragon team, whoever that is. You go get the downloads and the codes from them because now this isn't secondhand. It's not coming through me. And then they download so that you get the experience too. Because I think, well, it's more powerful as an individual to have the frequency. Like I said, I came back with a new frequency. It wasn't just knowledge and an experience. So if everybody can, like, go up with me to go get the New frequency, the new light codes, whatever you want to call them, and come back down and then get your butt to work. Because the world literally needs these people to wake up and start moving in a higher.
Alex Ferrari
So we can move consciousness so we can wake everybody up.
Mariko Frederick
Right. Because otherwise the lower realm being, and they're here, too, are having a great time wreaking havoc on this world with all the. I'm not gonna name all of it, but all the really bad things we see happening.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. The wars, the politics.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. The trafficking. It's terrible.
Alex Ferrari
All that stuff.
Mariko Frederick
It's all the people that are like, lower realm. And Earth is a sea average. So we all.
Alex Ferrari
So the lower realm, are these just lost souls?
Mariko Frederick
You know, here's the thing. We're all one. Yeah, exactly. So is anyone really lost or are we just playing our role? So I think of it as like a person. And if you're a being and we're all one, and we're one being, some people are at the level of the eyes and the nose and the ears, and some people are at the level of the knees and the toes. So the lower realm beings are at the level of the knees, the toes, the ankles. The higher realm beings, the eyebrows, the ears. But we don't want to cut the lower realm beings off because we need our ankles and toes. We want that we're all one. Most people are in the middle because we're a C average planet. But even the people in the middle are moving up. And the people in the lower realms were all ascending. But the more. The higher realm beings start to wake up and get to work and ascend, we shift everybody up. And that's why I'm just trying to get more efficient and get the people who are maybe, I don't know. No one listens to your show who's average but the masses, you want to wake them up so that they start elevating because that also brings up the lower realm being and the higher realm beings who are sitting here having imposter syndrome around like, oh, gosh, you know, enlightenment's only for Buddha. Enlightenment's only. I'm like, oh, good Lord, please. No, it's not. It's for you. He did say you can do everything. You don't have to do the wine thing. He did, you know, but he was a millennial, so good for him.
Alex Ferrari
He was a millennial.
Mariko Frederick
You don't have to walk on water.
Alex Ferrari
That's my.
Mariko Frederick
But you can radiate the truth of your soul, which is simply love. You can do that. It's not hard. And it's not only for Buddha and Christ and Krishna.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, exactly.
Mariko Frederick
At all.
Alex Ferrari
So when we, so when we went into our session, what I find fascinating is, you know, I was skeptical. I'm a very skeptical guy. As a general statement, I'm very open and I accept a lot of things. And like, if you're channeling. Cool, cool. I do. I know. If it's, if it's a alien being coming, if it's the Palladians, is it really an ascended man? I don't know. But I can feel energy and I can also hear what they're saying. So if what they're saying is something really profound and helping people, I don't care how it gets here. It's up to the. It's fine. Yeah. So I'm, I'm a skeptical person. I'm pretty grounded for the most part, but I am very accepting of a lot of weird ideas. But I'm always questioning things. So, like when we went into our session, I'm like, as we're starting to go through it and we're going to go. And we're going to go into some detail about it, but as we're going through it, I'm like, am I making this up? Am I just make. I'm like, am I making this up? You know, I've done a past life regression. I've done two astro therapies with you as of today. And the first, we're going to talk about the first one. The second one, not so much, but the first one we'll discuss a little bit. But as we're going through it, I'm thinking, am I just, as she's guiding me, am I just making stuff up? But then things start showing up in the brain that I'm like, I can't, I can't even make this stuff up. Like, I just, it wouldn't occur to me to make up what I'm seeing. So these images start coming in and I think what's interesting, and I think this happens with psychics, with mediums and with channelers, is to allow yourself the ability to just accept whatever comes in and not question it.
Mariko Frederick
It.
Alex Ferrari
Which is what we do, the ego mind or the, the, the other side of the brain, analytical minds trying to break this down, trying to wrap their head around. Right. It's. Head around it, but there's nothing to wrap. So as we were going through it, what I found fascinating, and then we'll go through the details of it. But what I found fascinating is you were telling Me, what I was seeing
Mariko Frederick
at the same time.
Alex Ferrari
Right. And at that point, I'm like, oh, we're in a different journey right now. We left Kansas a long time ago.
Mariko Frederick
Not in.
Alex Ferrari
So you were telling me. Yeah, so you're seeing this now. I'm like, son of a. See. Like, how do you know what's in my head? Like, okay, we're going here. We're doing that. We're doing that. What was really interesting. Well, we'll get to that part. It was so much stuff that was happening in that one. So we go in. Can you explain to people what the process is? And obviously the course that we're going to be talking, that we're. That we'll talk a little bit about later. But the one that we've recorded for mastery, for next level soul mastery, is how to do astral therapy for yourself, essentially. But can you explain the basic concept of astro therapy and what, like, typical session is without going into great detail as far as exact mechanics?
Mariko Frederick
Well, because everyone's different, right? Everyone's going to have a different experience. And I think the important thing is what you touched on, which is trusting yourself. You know, people. And I had trouble too. After my near death. I was like, did that happen? Yes, it happened. But even understanding that this happened, I still had doubts. And so I think the greatest issue that most of humanity is having right now is they don't trust themselves. Because if we could trust our intuition, we'd have a whole different world.
Alex Ferrari
Amen.
Mariko Frederick
You know, and we don't. So part of it's giving yourself permission to trust yourself that you are a higher realm being that you have been incarnating on higher realms that you're not from here. And for those, it's easy to go, right? I'm just connecting with my astral body, which is always here. We all understand we have an energy body. It's not just the chakra system and the aura. There's a lot more going on. Especially if you're from a different realm. You've got a whole different energy system from that realm. A lot of people. So astral therapy is essentially connecting your consciousness and your awareness of self. Not necessarily physical, but you stay in your physical body. For me, astral travel is not this phenomenon of I left my body and I don't feel myself anymore. No. Well, you're welcome to stay grounded in your body, very much so. And be connected to your astral body, your astral self, your soul, if you will. And then from there we go into. I open up portals and we go through into the astral realm. From there we can go forward in time, we can go backwards in time, find timelines wherever we're going, heal things. Clear. Things get very clear with you. Obviously. Shocker. Into a lot of different dimensions.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it was that. When we were going through our first session, you went to a place like, I've never gone this high. Where are we? We're going to a really high level here. I'm like, all right, let's. It's fascinating because for me, I'm like, all right, cool, let's. I have no idea what's happening. But we went to different. Really? Really? We'll talk about that highest level in a minute. But all right, so let's, let's get into this. Like I said, I never have spoken about this publicly on the show before and I just think it's interesting and it's something that hopefully will help people. So we, we start our session and you tell me, okay, who do you want to guide you? And the first person that shows up is a shocker. Yogananda shows up and I'm like, oh, hi, how you doing, Paramountsa? And he's like, how you doing? Let's. And he's the one that's guiding me through this whole process. And we start opening. You're like, okay, we're going to open a portal. And in the back of my head I'm going to. There's some crazy stuff going on right here.
Mariko Frederick
Really?
Alex Ferrari
Oh, absolutely. I was like, I'm like, okay, I. Obviously yoga, not. It's not like Krishna showed up. Like, no, Yogananda showed up because I have a deep connection with Yogananda. So he showed up and I'm like, I'm making it. I'm literally in my mind. I'm like, I'm making this up. This is. All right, let's just go for it. Let's just go on the ride. Let's see what happens. But you're like, okay, so Yogananda opens up a portal and we go into this first, I guess parallel reality.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. For you it was a. It was an alternate dimension and a parallel version. Version. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And there I was. I saw a. Basically a dystope, like a. Basically a bombed out reality. Like it was war torn, everything. And I saw a young version of myself sitting on a rock crying. And he was a. I guess he was a young man. He must have been in his teens. And I'm like, again, I'm. I'm pretty creative. I don't even. Like, I'm like, at this point, I'm starting to get away from. This is crazy to, like, what the hell is happening? Which then gets even weirder, as.
Mariko Frederick
It does get much weirder.
Alex Ferrari
It gets a lot weirder as we go forward through it. So then I'm sitting there, and it's almost like it's. It's a weird experience because it's not real time. It's not like you're watching a movie. It's images that are kind of, like, sent in different sequences. So I see that first. I. I do look around and I can see things.
Mariko Frederick
It's like a B roll clip.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. Seeing, like, a bunch of different things. Yogananda's hanging out. He didn't say much. He didn't say. He was just hanging out. And all of a sudden he's. You could see he's. He's crying, but then he's really angry about what has happened to his planet, his reality. And then I remember him bursting out in, like, almost a Japanese anime. I said that to you? It's a Japanese anime motion that he's yelling out and he just jumps up and he's, like, frozen in the air, like, so angry. And I'm just like, what is happening? I haven't taken anything. Can we imagine if I took actual peyote? What would happen to me? So I was like, this is. Is really weird. She's like, okay, let's go to the next one. So then I leave the portal. I'm in this. In between worlds. Like this kind of. Like, for me, it was almost like Contact, the movie Contact. Like when she's going in between worlds. It seemed like that, but a lot less aggressive than it was in the movie. So I'm sitting there, and then another. And then Yogananda opens up another portal. And I walk in through that one and then that one. Let me see if I remember correctly. It was that one. Then we went into. Oh, yes. This was weird. So this is the. The war planet.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, that was weird.
Alex Ferrari
That was really weird.
Mariko Frederick
That should be a movie.
Alex Ferrari
That is. I'll make one. All of a sudden, I see a battlefield. Yeah. And it's. And it's me in one of these. I'd say it's kind of like one of these walkers from Avatar and from Alien, if you remember Aliens. The walker that she's walking around with, like, she beats up the queen. Alien or Avatar. Those things that the guy the men jump into to fight the Avatars. I was in something like that, but I was surrounded by. And I forget the term of it when a circle is circling another circle and another circle, and because it was bigger. Yeah, it was surrounding.
Mariko Frederick
You were in it.
Alex Ferrari
I was in it. And that's, I guess, the protection of it. But I forgot, with that. A gimbal. I forgot what it's called. But it's like, this is all this kind of stuff. And then the creatures we were fighting were like giant headless gorillas monsters, but they had no heads. And they just, like. We're just making a. Just crazy. And there's a bunch of us fighting this all up, and it's very dark world. And I'm sitting there just watching it, going, what is happening? And you're telling me. You're like, oh, what is happening? I'm not telling you this stuff. And you're like. Like, oh, God, what do those things look like? And I'm like, how are you. Get out of my head, Mariko.
Mariko Frederick
They're big, too.
Alex Ferrari
They were massive.
Mariko Frederick
They're huge.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, no, we're talking about, you know, 30, 40.
Mariko Frederick
They were huge. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
High. I mean, they're monsters.
Mariko Frederick
I mean, the thing you were in was big, too.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, but it was.
Mariko Frederick
It was smaller than the thing, the creatures.
Alex Ferrari
It almost felt like Pacific Rim, where, like, I'm fighting. Fighting these giant. Yeah. Giant alien monsters. Yeah, it was crazy. So then all of a sudden, in the middle of that battle, I kind of transcend in the machine. I turn. I start to glow white, and I start to levitate outside of it, and I'm, like, almost ascending, like an ascended master, if you will, Angel. Like, almost. And I just start glowing white light, and these things freak the hell out and start just scattering everywhere. And I'm like. I'm watching all of this. I'm like, I'm not making this up. You're telling me this is happening as you're.
Mariko Frederick
As you're seeing it?
Alex Ferrari
As I'm seeing you, like, oh, now you're looking. Get out of my head. It's very strange. It's very, very strange. And I'm like, what is happening right now that this is crazy? And then. And we'll do a download afterwards. What?
Mariko Frederick
You.
Alex Ferrari
You and I. You do a download afterwards and kind of like a recap and explain what happened, because I don't know what's happening. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. So then you're like, okay, it's time to go. I'm like, I think it is.
Mariko Frederick
So wait, do you remember when that version of you stopped and looked at us? No, please.
Alex Ferrari
I forgot.
Mariko Frederick
Okay, so there's a point where we're about to go and he stops and looks at you and is basically like, I'm holding this realm. Could you go get to work in your little kush life over there? Essentially, that's what he was saying.
Alex Ferrari
He said that to me.
Mariko Frederick
Oh my gosh. He is aware. You, the alternate you was aware that we were there. He's fighting this war and going like in this realm. What are you second guessing with your. And you have this more cush life. We all do because other versions of us are fighting other battles.
Alex Ferrari
That's a really powerful idea that there is. Well, obviously the concept of a multiverse been around for thousands of years. The Vedic talked About the multiverse, all of that stuff. That there are multiple versions of ourselves in this lifetime, but in different versions of ourselves, and not just in this world.
Mariko Frederick
No.
Alex Ferrari
Parallel worlds as well. So there are different versions of this conversation.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Endlessly happening around the world. But there's also the war Planet. There is also the other one that apparently he lost that battle. And he was very angry. The very first. The teenage version.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
It was always something very, very.
Mariko Frederick
I, like, I could cry. Like, it was so heartbreaking.
Alex Ferrari
It was horrible.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
I felt it. I felt the feelings of what I was feeling. It was just.
Mariko Frederick
He was devastated.
Alex Ferrari
The oddest experience, but profound experience of my spiritual life.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And I've had a few things happen to me over the years, but this is the one that really stuck with me. And then you're like, okay, it's time to go. And I found that so fascinating that another version of myself is battling in another reality. So I could do this.
Mariko Frederick
And you also got a glimpse of what happens if you lose. If we lose, the devastation, like.
Alex Ferrari
Right. So that was the first step.
Mariko Frederick
The first step. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
So the very first one was that. The very second one was the battle of. It. It's almost like we're Christmas Carol. I'm like. I'm literally. I'm like Scrooge. And you're, like, taking me through Christmas past, Christmas present, and Christmas future. It's. It's really great. So the. The past one was the past one. Then there's the current one. I guess that was going on.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But then we left and we go to another one. And in this one, we're in a utopia. And it was these. We go into this. I know I sound crazy. Everybody, this. It sounds. It's crazy to me talking about it, but this is what happened. And I have a witness that was there, what was going on.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, I know it happened.
Alex Ferrari
And again, before I even continue. I don't care if you believe or you don't believe. I just know what it felt for me. Kind of like, I don't believe if I don't believe. I don't care if you believe I died or didn't die. I know what happened. So it's kind of similar in that sense. Like.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But what I felt from it, it was profound. So even if I was making it all up, I'm pretty profound within myself that I've made these things up.
Mariko Frederick
An amazing.
Alex Ferrari
I'm a major. That could feel these things.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
It wasn't just a witnessing. It was a feeling of it. So the next One we go in and I'm in this kind of bubble city. So we're in this. I can see it very clear, this giant buildings, but very futuristic were enclosed in this kind of almost dome, glass dome of some sort. And everything's beautiful, everything.
Mariko Frederick
I think it was like a force field actually.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, exactly. Some sort of dome of some sort. And everything's perfect, everything's beautiful. And there's these beings there who are again versions of me. But that's. This is not a human version. This is a very tall. The only thing I can, I can kind of connect it to were the. Just going to geek out here a little bit. In Star Wars Attack of the Clones, the species of alien that made the clones very tall, lanky, tall necks. But they were not exactly that. There were versions of that and they were very peaceful and they're like, oh, we're so happy you're here. This is nice. This is what it could be. And that's the feeling I got. This is where it could go. This is where we can go as a species to this beautiful, peaceful, blissful place. So we're going through all of that. Yogananda is hanging out in the corner just watching the whole thing with me. And then, then that's. This is when it starts to get a little interesting and I might need some help from you recollecting it as much as you can. We come out and you're like, alex, would you like to go to the higher, higher realms? I've never been here before. And I'm like, sure, let's go. And you're like, okay. And it was almost like we got into an elevator. I remember. This is my recollection. Please correct me if I'm wrong. We got into an elevator of some sort and we were just shooting up like passing. Do not pass go, do not collect. It's just like straight up. And when we get to this place, it's almost like. I can't say it's heaven, but the floor was clouds. Yeah, it was cloudy.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, it was a non corporal realm completely of just.
Alex Ferrari
There was no. There's no structures, there's no nothing. It was just kind of like this light, light clouds were the. I guess the floor.
Mariko Frederick
And there's not really a floor. It's not really whatever it is a realm of. Yeah, just light and light.
Alex Ferrari
But I remember clouds. I remember some sort of clouds around where the floor would be. As I'm recollecting this story, it's still like a little nutty and Then I see all of my guides, all of them, and there's thousands.
Mariko Frederick
Well, I think it was from all the dimensions or something. All of them.
Alex Ferrari
It was.
Mariko Frederick
I didn't know you could have that many.
Alex Ferrari
It was. You were like, what is that? Like, it was all.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I didn't know.
Alex Ferrari
I mean, I could. It was like seeing a sea of beings. All light beings, essentially. And they turn and they look at me and they're so happy to see me. And then one of them moves forward. And I don't remember anything after that. We have the recording. I should go back and watch it. I remember that he was kind of like. Or that being was the spokesperson of the. Of the whole. Kind of like a. Like a group entity. Kind of like when you channel, you know, Theo, like Sheila channels Theo. It's a group of angels that walks through this one. This one voice. It was something similar.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
What do you remember from that? Because I don't. I don't remember what was said. What. I just remember I knew who they were right away. Like, I wasn't like, who are all these Right. Beings. I knew, like, these are my. These are my guides.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Holy crap. This is my exact thing. This is like my spirit team. It's like. Oh. But it was all.
Mariko Frederick
All of them from all the multiverse. It was wild.
Alex Ferrari
It was. It's like seeing a sea that you. That had no end.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And then they all turned and looked at me. No eyes, just. I just saw their energy coming towards me, like I said, and it was like this thing. It was just. It was just so bizarre.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But I felt it. I felt the love. I felt the bliss. I felt. I just. When you're in the astral realm, there's a knowing.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. You remember.
Alex Ferrari
You just know who that person is. Yeah. Or that thing is. Or where we are. Like, you just know. No one's telling you. No one's explaining. Hey, Alex. These are all your spirit guide. No, it's just what it is. So it was very. Just amazing. So what do you remember from that?
Mariko Frederick
I mean, from my experience of. It was being in a realm of infinite consciousness. Yeah. And so while you saw the guides and we could feel their presence and feel they were just beaming with infinite joy for me. I was experiencing you receive that love. Understand. You know, the. The assignment on your soul is much bigger than you. Spans not just this universe, not just this dimension, but it ripples out into all the other yous and all the other into the multiverse. And so, no pressure, but like this version of you has a lot to get done. And so what it felt like to me was getting. I'm exhausted.
Alex Ferrari
I bet.
Mariko Frederick
Raising kids, shifting the multiverse, it's like, you know, it's Tuesday. So for you, it felt like getting an. I don't even say download because you can't download so much. But it was this merging of remembrance, of saying, this is who you are, this is who you are here to be, giving you that. And then watching you, your consciousness, your, your, your, Your consciousness really your, your energy, but more than energy, sync up with all of it and move into oneness consciousness. And so the highest realm was just oneness consciousness, where there is no one. And so eventually that's what I was experiencing, was just watching. There's no words, just watching you be. No time, nothing. Just watching you that, that, that unit of God's consciousness return to God's consciousness and then just be in the infinite band of love and consciousness. So that's what I was witnessing.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. I don't remember them saying anything.
Mariko Frederick
There's nothing to say.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it was. And I don't remember the, the download. I don't remember it logically.
Mariko Frederick
No, there wasn't. Mentally, you can't take it in. That's what I'm saying. When we die and we get all this stuff, there's no words to be like, you're going to do this. It's like, oh, it's instant you became it.
Alex Ferrari
It's just there. You're just done. Like.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
If you ask the question in your mind, it answer is being. It's answered in less than a second. It's instantly answered.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, it's way more efficient.
Alex Ferrari
Very much more efficient than this. This clunky language.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
That we have to constantly change depending on the region of the world we're at, or the age of our kids or the age of our kids. Riz. Riz. You have a lot of aura, bruh. You have a lot of aura.
Mariko Frederick
Six, seven, six, seven. Oh, God. Eight, nine.
Alex Ferrari
Okay, so hold on, hold on. I got it. I gotta say this for every parent listening. I've, I've. I listened. I heard, I heard this somewhere and I thought this was genius. If you want to annoy. If you have kids who say 6, 7, constantly, every time they say 6, 7 in front of you, all you have to do is. They'll go six, seven, and you'll go eight, nine. And it pisses them off so badly, it freaks them out and they'll stop doing it in front of you. So it's a. It's a little tip from Uncle Alex.
Mariko Frederick
Can't wait to try it on my girl.
Alex Ferrari
Try it. Please leave in the comments what happens, because, trust me, it will piss them off. And it just. And they're. They can't compute what's happening. They're like, wait a minute. We're the only ridiculous ones here. You can't be ridiculous too. Like, eight. Nine.
Mariko Frederick
Nine. I can't wait.
Alex Ferrari
Nine. Sure. Brilliant. It's brilliant. I've seen it. I've seen it work on my kids and on other kids. It freaks them out. It's wonderful. But, yes, different languages that are constantly changing is not as efficient. So then I came back and we had this download explaining the whole thing. Can you. Do you remember a lot of the things that I might have not recalled in this, or did I recall it pretty.
Mariko Frederick
You recalled most of it. I think the big thing, you know, the last part I do is what we. It's a download. It's an imprint. I call it an astral imprint, where I. I bring the teachings of what they're trying to share with you through words, through frequency, and, like, imprint it with light codes into you. Or they. They. They essentially do. Right? I'm. I'm here, but they're, you know, not gonna. Yoganandas. I'm not doing a better job than him. Whatever he wants to do. I'm like, cool, man.
Alex Ferrari
I just work here.
Mariko Frederick
Whatever you need to do is fine. So that was the astral imprint of, like, this is what you're becoming. This is what you're here to be. This is who you're here to be. Go be it. We get that download. But for you, again, in the end, essentially, it was like, yes, Next Level Soul has to grow. Has to. It will. More opportunities will come. All the things that are coming will come. And it was. I mean, it's interesting because with you, you know, I think a lot of your guests, like, we're here to change the world. We're here to help. But you're providing the platform for people to do that. So for you, there's a lot more at stake. It felt like you had, like, the burden of, like, actually doing it. Like, I could say, oh, I'm just here. We have to be. But you actually have a lot to do. And there was. So I felt like they were giving you the support structure to do so that you could become the person that can do. Because, I mean, if you think Next Level Soul is big now, like, give them a minute, and it's. It's gonna grow. And Again, I believe it has to grow beyond your lifetime, the work you're doing. And that's why it was just, it was very important, not just to you and the people that watch today, but to humanity. And so essentially they were like, like, this is why you're doing it. This is what you have to do. This is who you have to be to do it. Let's give you the energetic, the frequency upgrade, the support so that you can. Because it has to live beyond you. Like it's important.
Alex Ferrari
But Mariko, it's, it's. That's a lot.
Mariko Frederick
I know. I don't envy you. It is heavy.
Alex Ferrari
It's heavy. Yeah, it's a heavy. It's heavy. Like when, I mean, I've heard this before from others. Again, so many psychics, so many channelers, I've heard of this before. But seeing it and feeling it through this astro therapy was very different. For whatever reason, it's just the path that we're doing right now. But it's a lot. And I say that it's a lot. Not just for me, but even for yourself and others who are trying to awaken the planet. This is a very heavy job for a lot of people. Some are heavier than others, some are smaller than others. It doesn't have to be this grandiose thing that you have to reach billions and billions of people. It can be your community, it can be doing one on ones, it can be doing, you know, events and in smaller things that reaches hundreds of people or thousands of people as opposed to billions. Yeah, everyone has their own path. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Mariko Frederick
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. But it's still. It's still a challenge, especially in today's world, which has gotten a lot. I mean, these conversations are going out and.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
A lot of people are watching.
Mariko Frederick
Would not have happened in 1984.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, God. We would have been stoned. No, I don't think we would have been. Well, it depends on where we were in the. In the world.
Mariko Frederick
Right? Yeah. Depending on where.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, we would have been stoned. But that's why it's always fun to me to talk to people who were doing this work in the 80s.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And in the 70s.
Mariko Frederick
That'd be wild.
Alex Ferrari
Because they. I'm like, man, it can't. It couldn't have been. You're channeling. Are you out? What, you're basically being possessed.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
You know, And, I mean, I can. Depending on where you were. I mean, if you're in San Francisco, you're probably going to be a little bit more accepted.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
But if you're in the middle of the Bible Belt, good luck. You know, I can only imagine what they went through. So it's always fascinating me to talk to how that was.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But now they look at things like, I can't. Not everyone's coming out like, I'm a channeler.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
I'm a psychic medium now. You know, I do this or I died.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
I'm like, you might have just been hungover. No, no, I died. I saw something. I'm like, okay, tell us what you did, you know?
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
So it's. It's interesting now. It's kind of like. I wouldn't say it's the cool kids, but It's a lot more acceptable than
Mariko Frederick
it used to be.
Alex Ferrari
People are just more open to it. Before, they would recoil. And don't get me wrong, there are still people who recoil. Sure, but. But nowadays people are much, much more open to a conversation like this about astral therapy.
Mariko Frederick
Well, a lot of them, they've had an experience too. So it's not just that they've shifted and they're open. I mean, I think in general, the frequency. You know, thankfully, the people in the 60s, 70s, 80s were working on the frequency of the planet. And so then we can hold more consciousness and have these conversations. And a lot of them opened up that pathway for us. But I think that because of that, there's more experiences, whether they're having it in a yoga class or meditating at home. So they are more open because they. It's not like you said, it's not like they heard about it, but they experienced it. It needs to happen a lot more.
Alex Ferrari
And that's what a lot of people have. Has happened with a lot of the episodes that come out. People feel. Yeah, the transmissions, people feel the energy. I had a friend of our, a mutual friend of ours who did an astro therapy with you, and they said it was one of the most profound things that they ever experienced. It's a pretty powerful thing, this astro therapy. So we'll talk a little bit about the, the course in a bit. But. But you're also a kind of a channel as well, right? You channel information, but you're not a trans channel.
Mariko Frederick
I'm not a chance. To me, it's like really, really. I. I feel like it. Really fast conversations.
Alex Ferrari
Okay.
Mariko Frederick
Like it's happening so fast that it's just happening in real time. But, yeah, I guess, you know, that is channeling.
Alex Ferrari
So you're. Yeah. You're not trans channeling. You're not bringing someone in or anything like that.
Mariko Frederick
They can stay over there.
Alex Ferrari
They can stay over there. But. But you. So, like, if we start having a conversation, I'm like, hey, can we. And do you know who it is? Do you know what it is?
Mariko Frederick
It's the Ascended Masters. I think it's the people, the Ascended Masters that. So it's always been hard to say who, because when I had my nde, there were four beings that were there downloading me and giving me information. Not wordless. There was no. Again, I wish there was an instruction manual. And I feel like it's. It is correct. It is the four of them, but they're not guides in a way that we can comprehend. On Earth, because I have been trying to comprehend them as a guide, and I realize they're not guides. They're not just Ascended masters. For me. They're like higher realm, alternate dimensional Ascended masters. That's the next.
Alex Ferrari
So they're Ascended masters from another reality?
Mariko Frederick
Yes, a higher realm and alternate realities.
Alex Ferrari
So they're like the Jesus and the Buddha of their reality kind of.
Mariko Frederick
They're saying. Correct.
Alex Ferrari
Okay.
Mariko Frederick
But again, it's like not quite. Quite the right.
Alex Ferrari
I'm just trying to wrap our head.
Mariko Frederick
I know.
Alex Ferrari
We're trying to wrap our head around.
Mariko Frederick
I like, honestly. Give me better words. You know, I do that all the time. Like I'm human. Give me human words. Because I can't explain this, but that's correct. It's kind of like they are the Ascended Masters, but from a different reality that we haven't wrapped our head around. And so they're here because they want people to be able to go and connect with their astral self, their causal self, their soul. I mean, that's the end goal. What is my purpose? Enlightenment. That's it. It. It's really simple here, you know?
Alex Ferrari
Right. But. And, and when you say enlightenment, a lot of people think that's a destination, but it's not.
Mariko Frederick
Not.
Alex Ferrari
It's not.
Mariko Frederick
Can happen right now.
Alex Ferrari
And then, now you have to continue this journey with that knowledge, with that information, which happens. I mean, Buddha became enlightened and lived decades.
Mariko Frederick
Right. Wasn't he an accountant?
Alex Ferrari
Was an accountant and a family man.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. Householder. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
I always. I always look at him as one of my, my heroes because it's real easy. It's easier to become enlightened when you can just focus on you all the time. Go into a, into a cave in the Himalayas and meditate for 20 years and not have to have any other worries. But when you have a family and kids and worldly issues and still be a master like he was who brought Korea yoga back to us and, and taught Yukteshwa, which then taught Yogananda. And then Babaji showed up and, and Babaji worked with Yeshua and all of that stuff. It. I always look at him with a lot of love. I'm like, man, how'd you do it, brother?
Mariko Frederick
But I think that is the new spiritual teacher of today has to be.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, the. The guru that is by himself. And there are still those. And that's fine.
Mariko Frederick
Amazing.
Alex Ferrari
But I think that. I think I heard this from somewhere and I forgot who said it. Whether it be the Dalai Lama or another master that's walking right now, that said, we need to come out of the caves and come down and become the CEOs, become the leaders that we need. Because the era of just the enlightened, you know, Buddha is we need more now. Now, meaning that we need active participants, not just information and not just being there are those still in God. And I've had some of them on the show, but that's what they. You need to be out in the world. You need to, like, if, if Yeshua or Buddha were alive today, they would be on social media.
Mariko Frederick
They would.
Alex Ferrari
They would have a YouTube channel, and
Mariko Frederick
they would not be broke.
Alex Ferrari
And they would not be broke because it's okay to make a little money. It is as a spiritual person, which is a thing that pisses me off so much that you have to, oh, you can't make any money. Well, how do you think this stuff gets made?
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, I mean, we have cell phones and we have to pay for these
Alex Ferrari
and we have, you know, a staff.
Mariko Frederick
Kids.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it's a staff. And all this stuff. I mean, even taxes. Yeah, even. Even the gurus in India, they have people that are paying for them to eat, right. For them to maintain the property. You know, there's. There is real world things.
Mariko Frederick
We have to be practical, too.
Alex Ferrari
Exactly.
Mariko Frederick
And, and, but I love you brought up the CEO, because I'm a big believer that, you know, the way I want to run my company is I want people working with me, not for me. They work with me whose sole assignment is to work with sole priority, whose sole assignment is doing what they're here to do. And I think, imagine if the companies out there started attracting the people that are working with. With them, not in a hierarchy, because it's what they're meant to do. Right. And how much more productive would that company be if every single person there, from the CFO to the sales team to the people cleaning, were like, this is the environment I'm meant to be in. Not because their resume says that they're qualified, not because they went to the right school necessarily, but because it's what their soul is here to do. And that's my team. And I'm really blessed that I have that. And I want that for everybody because there's such ease and even more abundance because everybody's doing what they're meant to do. And that is allowing everybody to live their spiritual life all day long because they're in alignment with their soul. They're in alignment with their soul assignment. So as a CEO, you're going to be more profitable. You're going to make more and be okay, pay your bills. Because everybody working with you is in alignment with your soul mission. It's their soul mission too. And I want that so bad before. I would love to see that before I leave this world. I don't know if I will, but I think more companies are waking up.
Alex Ferrari
I think more companies are starting to wake up. And I think that things are changing. I know it doesn't seem like it because if you look at the news, everything is, you know, hella.
Mariko Frederick
I just don't look at the news.
Alex Ferrari
I stopped looking at the news a long, long time ago. And my wife always like, don't you want to know what's going on? I'm like, no.
Mariko Frederick
Well, that's why next level soul TV is great. Because then people could just stay in that bubble because obviously what we think about is what we're manifesting. So if we just think conscious. Conscious thoughts.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, conscious media. And it is very important what you feed your. Your body, but also what you feed your mind with the energy that comes in, you know? So, I mean, sometimes I'll look at movies that I absolutely adored in the 80s and I'll go look at them like, yeah, that doesn't resonate anymore. Like, I can't watch Bloodsport anymore. Like, no, I can't. I can still watch Predator, though. It's so good.
Mariko Frederick
Can you.
Alex Ferrari
It's so good.
Mariko Frederick
I mean, they have done a lot of remakes, so.
Alex Ferrari
I mean, the first one, it's just so.
Mariko Frederick
It was so scary. Oh, God, the noise. That thing made that. Look at. Clicking. Oh, God.
Alex Ferrari
Sorry, sorry, sorry, everyone, for my horrible Predator impression. And Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Movie.
Mariko Frederick
It totally is. Thank you. Anyone who says it's not, listen. Okay, did Bruce Willis say it's not?
Alex Ferrari
Did I said.
Mariko Frederick
He said it is somebody else. Okay.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, he said it. So people get. Okay, let's. Because we're recording this around Christmas time.
Mariko Frederick
We are.
Alex Ferrari
So I'd love to talk about Die Hard. In my. In my former life as a podcast host in the film industry, I actually had a statistician come on who all he does is crunch numbers all day. And he proved without a shadow of a doubt that Die Hard is a Christmas movie. And some of the key moments of that is one, every December, Google searches for Die Hard go skyrocketing. People wanting to watch it. So that's indication, one that people believe. Whether you believe it's it is or it isn't, it's irrelevant. People do watch it during the holidays, so hence Makes it a Christmas movie. There is more Christmas references in Die Hard than there is at Home Alone.
Mariko Frederick
Really? Oh, I love that.
Alex Ferrari
He went frame by frame. More Christmas trees, more this. And they actually say Christmas, I think, more times in Die Hard than they do.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh.
Alex Ferrari
In Home Alone. Oh, no. Yeah, It's. And if you start seeing the iconography in Die Hard, Christmas is everywhere. We're in Home Alone. It's not. It. It's. I mean, obviously, it's a Christmas. Home Alone, it's a Christmas movie, but it's not. There's more in. They say the word Christmas more, they refer to Christmas more. There's more Christmas elements on every.
Mariko Frederick
He went frame by frame, so it's proven.
Alex Ferrari
It's frame by frame. So without a doubt, Die Hard is a Christmas.
Mariko Frederick
So the controversy is, until Hans Gruber
Alex Ferrari
falls, it's not Christmas. Till Hans Hoover falls off the tower. He doesn't. Till he's done. He's. Until he's dead at the end. It doesn't. It's the most spiritual conversation we've had.
Mariko Frederick
But those cemetery. Okay, well, there's that over the place.
Alex Ferrari
But there are certain things, energetically that I can't watch anymore. Like, I just can't watch certain movies that I adored when I was growing up. But I'm like, oh, God, I couldn't even watch a Steven Seagal movie. She kidding me. For many reasons. Not just because, wow, he was a special soul. But. But. So when we created Next Level Soul tv, it was about creating this safe space where you can watch movies and TV shows and shows like this. And.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I was listening to a book the other day.
Alex Ferrari
Audiobooks. Yeah. Which one were you listening to?
Mariko Frederick
The Atlantis one.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, isn't that fun?
Mariko Frederick
That was so fun. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Which one. Which volume are you on?
Mariko Frederick
I'm on three.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, yeah.
Mariko Frederick
I'm just starting three.
Alex Ferrari
So, yeah, the first two.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. And I was like, just. It's like, I don't have to think about, like, is. I don't have to. I. I don't have to screen the content, which I really like, you know, because I. I don't look at the news. I live in a bubble, you know, that I have no idea what's going on half the time.
Alex Ferrari
If it' enough it gets to us.
Mariko Frederick
It does. Somebody will tell me. But other than that, my job in this realm is not to be super involved with all the. The stuff.
Alex Ferrari
You have to do your thing.
Mariko Frederick
I'm doing my thing. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And if it's. Again, if a hurricane's coming.
Mariko Frederick
Somebody will tell me.
Alex Ferrari
Someone's going to say you're going to see a line out the door somewhere at Home Depot or at the supermarket.
Mariko Frederick
Husband who's very grounded, will, will get things done.
Alex Ferrari
We all have that person in our life.
Mariko Frederick
We do.
Alex Ferrari
They'll let us know. My dad will call me like, do you not know what's happening? And I'm like, no. What's happening? No idea what happened. Where is it going? So they eventually get to. But. Yeah, but having that book series, by the way, it's one of my favorite things we have on the platform and it's the years of Atlantis is fall. The second book is Atlantis reborn in Egypt. And then the third book, which is what you're in, is the Atlantis reborn in America.
Mariko Frederick
You haven't started it yet. So I'm about to.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah.
Mariko Frederick
So I love about that whole about
Alex Ferrari
like, why in these last hundred and fifty, fifty years we've made more technological advancements than we did in the last 6,000 years. I mean, literally, it's such a small time. Oh, it's crazy how much we've in our lifetime, how much has changed.
Mariko Frederick
We were alive when the microwave was invented.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, remote controls.
Mariko Frederick
Oh my gosh. Remember how they like had cords?
Alex Ferrari
That was the cable box. I remember. Yo. That was the original. Was connected to the tv, then the cable box that you would hit a button and then it'd be like mtv.
Mariko Frederick
I didn't have. I didn't have cable.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, I didn't. My dad had cable.
Mariko Frederick
Did he?
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. I didn't have cable at my mom's house, but he had cable when I went to go visit him.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
What's mtv? Which now is closed.
Mariko Frederick
I know, it's so sad.
Alex Ferrari
Now MTV is closed.
Mariko Frederick
I know.
Alex Ferrari
To be fair, it was closed a long time ago. They stopped playing music a long, long time ago. Yeah, but it was. Yeah. So much has changed just in our,
Mariko Frederick
our life and why.
Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. Why now?
Mariko Frederick
Like, what is happening to our humanity? Because we're getting help.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, no question.
Mariko Frederick
This is not just this is downloads. This is Higher Realm helping. This is. This is other beings more advanced than us, giving us the downloads and the ideas when it's.
Alex Ferrari
When it's time.
Mariko Frederick
When it's time.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. You give the telephone idea to Galileo. Good luck. He wouldn't have been able to put it together.
Mariko Frederick
They're da Vinci. Look at all the things he drew.
Alex Ferrari
And he. And they were just so ahead of his time.
Mariko Frederick
He can't make a helicopter back then. Even though he knew about it.
Alex Ferrari
Right.
Mariko Frederick
You know, exactly. But it's interesting to see. Like instead of just thinking, I have this idea, how can I market it and sell it? Okay, great. Do that too. It's practical. Why?
Alex Ferrari
Why am I doing this?
Mariko Frederick
Why are you doing this? How is this serving humanity on a bigger scale? Whose sole assignment is it to come work with me to help build this thing?
Alex Ferrari
Listen, this work is not easy.
Mariko Frederick
No.
Alex Ferrari
For anybody doing this kind of work. And if we have companies, it's stressful. There's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of. So this is mission based. It can't be money based. No, because if it's money based, there's easier Ways to make money or what's the point of this? You know, this is exhausting. There's a lot.
Mariko Frederick
There's a lot of moving pieces.
Alex Ferrari
A lot of.
Mariko Frederick
Especially for you right now.
Alex Ferrari
Right. And apparently these pieces are going to start moving faster and more in the future. So it's, It's a lot. So it has to be mission based. It has to be like, how can I help? How can I help the world? How can I help them awaken? What can I do? Do? It has to be that. Because I'm not 30 anymore and I don't have the same energy that I had when I was 30. So it has to be mission based. Where before it was all about the hustle. It was, and now it's not.
Mariko Frederick
That's how we're trained. But even the grind, people outside of, of spirituality, it's like, if they did invent something, why are you doing it? Why are you doing it? What. What's your mission? What's the higher. What's the higher reason? Yeah. Is it just for money and profit? Okay, whatever. But, like, if there's something more, I would love to see Those people, those CEOs, elevate their business in the higher realms. You know, like, you know what I do with businesses. It's fun.
Alex Ferrari
It's, it's. It's like Jim Carrey, when Jim Carrey came out and said this beautiful quote, and I'm paraphrasing, where he said, I wish everybody could get everything they ever wanted so they would understand it means nothing.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Because he got every single thing he ever wanted. Biggest movie star in the world. Rich beyond compare. Dated the most beautiful women in the world. Had the world that it was, it was a noise. I mean, everything. Fame, fortune, all of it. And he kind of just go, oh, this is. This is really not what.
Mariko Frederick
It's empty.
Alex Ferrari
It's not what it's about.
Mariko Frederick
No, I need. He was born. I mean, he's gifted too. You know, aside from all the things he got with money, he's also gifted.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. And he's. He's awakening. And I'm Jim. Anytime, seats always open for you, brother. I would love to sit down and have a conversation with him because he's such an interesting soul.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
That is a. Is a soul that is received so much in his life. And now he's kind of like, put that aside and it's like more focused on painting and more focused on. On raising consciousness and that kind of stuff and talking about that. And I, I don't think he gets a Lot of people who can talk to him at that level. You know what I mean? People just like looking at him, at Jim Carrey, like he's lost his mind.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
You gave away how much money? Like you. You don't. You turn down $20 million, like, because people are still caught up in this stuff.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But he's at a different place. He had a Kundalini awakening.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. And we need people like that to awaken, to share it. It's okay. Yeah, exactly. To say it's okay not to chase money and fame and all this stuff. It's okay to seek inward fulfillment. And we didn't learn. I mean, Gen X, we did not grow up with that message. It was, go to school, make money, blah, blah, blah. You know, we did not get that. So I'm glad that he is.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. Gen X, God bless us. How we even made it is beyond us.
Mariko Frederick
We survived on hoses, on hoses outside
Alex Ferrari
drinking water, unfiltered water from a hose.
Mariko Frederick
We survived with probably, like, God knows what in it.
Alex Ferrari
Oh. I mean, it made us stronger
Mariko Frederick
and. But thankfully there was the PSA at night, asking where your kids are?
Alex Ferrari
10 o', clock. Do you know where your children are? I remember I just watched it the other day and it was like all these celebrities of the day, like Cyndi Lauper and Madonna and, you know, all Prince and like, hey, hey, do you know where your kids are? I'm like, I can't believe this was a thing. Every, every 10 o' clock at the news, they would just say, hey, do you know where your children are?
Mariko Frederick
Do you remember? You have kids? Do you remember that? You have kids?
Alex Ferrari
Do you have kids? And you're like, oh, yeah. Where is Jim?
Mariko Frederick
That's right.
Alex Ferrari
Where is Jim?
Mariko Frederick
Is the door unlocked?
Alex Ferrari
Is the door unlocked? We gave him a key. He should. Did he make breakfast? Did he make dinner for us yet?
Mariko Frederick
Is your room clean?
Alex Ferrari
Is your room clean? I mean, oh, my God, how we survived.
Mariko Frederick
So if we survived, we get to do fun stuff like this and then.
Alex Ferrari
And we don't get bothered by things.
Mariko Frederick
No, we really don't.
Alex Ferrari
We do not get offended by things. Just watch any 80s movie and you'll understand why. We're not offended by.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh. Honestly.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, something.
Mariko Frederick
You wonder why they're not getting remade.
Alex Ferrari
God. Sixteen Candles.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh. Honestly. Zero consent. So bad.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, and the Asian stereotypes in that movie are sore.
Mariko Frederick
That used to hurt my feelings being halfway Japanese. What was the guy's name? Jerry. Jerry?
Alex Ferrari
No, Juan Dong Kong or something like Dong.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
That was, like, so bad.
Mariko Frederick
It was so bad.
Alex Ferrari
But at least he was Asian.
Mariko Frederick
He was.
Alex Ferrari
But it's not like Breakfast at Tiffany's that. You see. What's his name? Oh, gosh, what's his name?
Mariko Frederick
Playing a Japanese when people weren't allowed to be Asian in films, right?
Alex Ferrari
And he was like Andy Rooney. Rooney. The kid from God. From the 80s, from the 20s. Oh, God. Anyway, that character, that actor played him as a Rooney. Something. Rooney. Mickey.
Mariko Frederick
Mickey Rooney.
Alex Ferrari
Okay. Mickey Rooney played a Japanese. Yeah, the upstairs. And you're just like, oh, oh, oh, that's so horrible. I'm not gonna do the impression. No, but it was horrible. So the. But raised with that kind of stuff, you start like, we're not offended by anything.
Mariko Frederick
Not anymore. I mean, it used to confuse me because I'm half Japanese and I'd be like, my family doesn't act like that. We don't. They don't talk like that. It using, like, for me, for a
Alex Ferrari
while, it was Scarface and Ricky Ricardo because I'm Cuban.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh.
Alex Ferrari
And those were the two things. It's an Italian doing a Cuban guy, right? Really well. But still the caricature at this point. So we all talk like this, man. We are gonna talk like. They talk about spirituality like this today, man. Okay. I'm a political person from Cuba. We're gonna talk about channeling.
Mariko Frederick
Tell me about vacuuming, though.
Alex Ferrari
A vacuum clean. Okay. Let's not go down that road. Cubanisms is a whole other conversation. We make up words constantly in Spanish, and that's one of them.
Mariko Frederick
But anyway, give yourself permission to make up words. I did leather then, so.
Alex Ferrari
So let's get back. Let's get back onto the track. Gonna become a meme now. Me talking.
Mariko Frederick
I think you need to just, like, open the show like that.
Alex Ferrari
Okay, man. Everybody, today, we're welcome to Next Level Soul. We're here to talk about cocaine and about auras.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh.
Alex Ferrari
Wouldn't that be amazing? Oh, God. You need to do that. You're crying. I'm sorry.
Mariko Frederick
It's okay.
Alex Ferrari
We talk about cocaine and auras. Okay, now, first of all, the chakras get activated with more cocaine. No, I'm joking.
Mariko Frederick
Maybe you can talk to the lower realm beings about their aura.
Alex Ferrari
I can't wait for the comments.
Mariko Frederick
And this is. This is us, like, on camera. Off camera.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, we're worse off camera.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh.
Alex Ferrari
But the thing is that you have to have fun. Fun. You do have to. The spirituality cannot be this, like, deep, hard.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my God.
Alex Ferrari
You can't say anything. It's just supposed to be fun.
Mariko Frederick
You're supposed to be playful. It's supposed to be our soul loves joy. That's why people come to me and they're like, how do I make money doing xyz? I'm like, whatever. Sounds like fun. Yeah, you know?
Alex Ferrari
Well, we're probably gonna bleep out when I say cocaine, so you'll know. What? You won't even know what I'm saying. I'll probably be about cocaine beat. Exactly. Today we're going to talk about. Maybe I should do an entire episode in my Scarface accent. That would be.
Mariko Frederick
When you interview Jim Carrey, can you just have a segment of him with his accent?
Alex Ferrari
Okay, Jim Carrey, let's talk about this awakening your head. Did you have the cocaine before you awakened? How did you awaken? Where's the Kundalini? People are probably pissing themselves right now.
Mariko Frederick
I can hear him in, like, his. All the voices he can do.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, my God. Right? Oh, my God.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, my gosh. That would be so fun.
Alex Ferrari
So much fun.
Mariko Frederick
You should have an entire episode. Please do.
Alex Ferrari
Please. I'm gonna. Please, Jim, come anytime. The door is always open. Always open. All right, so I wanted to talk to you really quickly about your channeling. So you obviously channeling these Ascended masters. What do they have to say to us right now? What messages are they kind of bringing in that we need to hear at this point?
Mariko Frederick
I mean, the big thing literally for everybody, and I'm paraphrasing, it's go time. This idea that you're not ready, that you're not prepared, that it's not for you, that you're not qualified, is a lie. It's something that you made up in this realm. It doesn't exist in the higher realms. You are literally made for the thing you're here to do. Nobody else can take your place. This is for you. And still, even when people hear those words, it's like it doesn't hit inside their. It doesn't awaken. It needs to awaken something. They need to remember. And even they can move forward even without remembering. They. All they have to do is keep saying, yes, okay, I'm going to do it. Okay, yes. What is the next step for me? And too many of the people on this planet right now are not just second guessing themselves, but even denying who they really are. So if they could just express to you that those of you who are feeling like you might be from a higher realm, that you are not an average being, you are here to do something bigger. You are here. Now, here's the caveat. CEOs with a higher assignment on your life, it is also up to you to create an atmosphere where you are hiring people of a higher consciousness who are here. And their soul's mission is to work with your company. And it has to start there as well. It can't just be the people going, I'm here for something more. I'm here for something more. Not every 8 billion people on the planet are here to start their own podcast, write their own book and do something. Some of them are here to help support the companies that are inventing things or doing something bigger. But Those companies, the CEOs, they need to be feeling their soul assignment. They need to realize that what they're here to do isn't just a thing to make money. And I think they already know that, but it's okay. And they need to give themselves permission to. Not necessarily just look at the resume in the schools, but the people and to hire based on. Is this the assignment on your soul? And if you have no training, can I train you? Or is like, where can you fit? Because to me, that's the enlightened company money. But in order for so many people on the planet to know, what am I here to do? Some of them literally are here to work for the CEOs that are here to do something big, but they have to hire differently.
Alex Ferrari
That's very true. And it's happening, though.
Mariko Frederick
It is.
Alex Ferrari
It's slowly. It's slowly happening. So that's the big message that they
Mariko Frederick
have for us, because to say to everybody, go do what you're here to do. Again, not everybody here is here to have their own company or be a healer. So for the people that are listening that are CEOs and have a company start hiring more consciously because you're going to attract more people that are here to do what you're here to. What you're also here to do. It's a group effort. Let's see what else they have to say. That was, that was a. That was one big thing to sort of wake up those CEOs to say, hire differently. Hire more consciously because it aligns everybody with their soul assignment. Again, it aligns everyone with their soul. And again, if the goal, the goal is enlightenment, being aligned with your soul assignment, doing what you're to do allows you to live in alignment with your soul. So you're not chasing money or wealth or fame or whatever. You're doing what you're to do. So you can live in that love, in that state of love and gratitude all the time. And you can't do that if your soul assignment is a side hustle. If you have to go work somewhere that isn't in alignment with you, then how do you stay aligned with your soul assignment? How do you follow that intuitive nudge that you're here to do something more? And then enlightenment meditation becomes like a thing you do in the evenings for a few minutes or an hour. It's not enough. That's the thing. The people who are here to open up opportunities for other people to live the assignment on their soul, they've got to open up the opportunities they need to do that on a bigger scale. Then you get the people that are here to do the bigger thing now they're in alignment with their soul and everyone's moving toward enlightenment. Now the consciousness of the planet is raising because the modern day spiritual guides, leaders, whatever it is, like you said, are also CEOs.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah.
Mariko Frederick
And they need to run their companies like that. And they're not, not enough of them. Them and the ones that are on the fence and thinking about it like the answer is yes, go do it. Stop second guessing yourself.
Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. Help.
Mariko Frederick
Because where does everyone else go? Where, where do they all go? There's too many of us for everybody to go be a spiritual teacher or healer or podcast host or author. There's too many, but there's not too many if you're finding the right fit.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, and, and it's, and I love what you're saying, that you don't have to open up your own company, you don't have to be a, a published author, you don't have to have your own podcast or, or thing unless that is something that, that is ringing true to you and then you might be able to do that for yourself. So it's not saying that you don't have to, but, or not to do it, but it really is up to you what your sole assignment is.
Mariko Frederick
Right?
Alex Ferrari
Like you said, if you're on the fence, do it, go do it. But you might want to go to another company first and see how that works out for you. Because yeah, it's not everyone's going to
Mariko Frederick
be a boss and not everybody's going to be a healer or a podcast or channeler. Most people, if the 8 billion people on the planet aren't, they want to go work somewhere. But it has to work for their soul. It has to. Yes. And that's not how we hire. It's not how, it's not how businesses, it's. I don't think business schools train people to hire in alignment with your soul assignment. It's not that conversation needs to start. And, and the people that are running the companies have to be brave enough to do it and to go, you know what? I want to hire this person even though it makes no sense, you know, the person I hired, no experience. It's his sole assignment to be working with me. It's working out amazingly. I wish everybody could do that. It is possible. And I understand if you have a corporation, you have thousands of people working with you, you can't necessarily change over right Now. But can you inspire them?
Alex Ferrari
I think you might remember this. In the 80s, there was a problem with Tylenol. Do you remember that?
Mariko Frederick
With who? Tylenol, yes.
Alex Ferrari
The company.
Mariko Frederick
Gosh. I do. I vaguely.
Alex Ferrari
Right. So somebody went around and poisoned free bottles and people died because before then there was no safety cap.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Someone could just open up anything, put anything in and close it. Nobody would know the difference. All of that safety stuff happened after, after that event. But that CEO, without thinking twice, pulled every bottle of Tylenol off the market. They lost millions. I remember that because he's like, it's the right thing to do.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Why would I risk. Why, why would I risk someone's health because of money? Like it just.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
It was such a different perspective in today's world. I don't know if that happens. I mean, I remember there was a lawsuit back in the day of. There's a movie made of it. One of the. I won't say the company, but there was a automobile company that had a defect in their car. And if you hit the car at the right space and the light was on, it would explode. Like literally.
Mariko Frederick
I remember those cars.
Alex Ferrari
They were. I mean it's pretty legendary. They were Pintos.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I brought it up earlier today.
Alex Ferrari
They were Pintos. My grandfather had one.
Mariko Frederick
I get it.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. But if you like had the left signal on and you got rear ended, the damn thing blew up. What the hell.
Mariko Frederick
And you could still buy them.
Alex Ferrari
And. Yeah. So the. But the company said, okay, so how much would it cost to pay lawsuits versus doing a recall? And they figured out that it would actually be cheaper just to pay people off once they died than to actually do the right thing. So that's what we're trying to. That's the example of two different approaches.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And one's hell, a lot more conscious and more just.
Mariko Frederick
Right, right.
Alex Ferrari
It's just a human thing to do.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Because he was looking at the, the human cost of life versus profit. And I think that's where we've kind of. We've run a run amok.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
With profit and the market and having to pay shareholders and every month is grow, grow, grow at any cost. Where, you know, people are, you know, don't have pee breaks in warehouses because they have to get certain markers every day and, and so on, you know, to get more. What stuff. You know, there's a, there's a point where this isn't sustainable.
Mariko Frederick
The whole system, this whole matrix, the
Alex Ferrari
whole system as of right now is not sustainable. 100. We can't deal with 100 more years of this. No, it just won't work. The planet will not support it. We can't support it. We'll kill ourselves off. So something has to change, change pretty drastically, really fast.
Mariko Frederick
And that's where it's like companies need to change. Like it's go time. It's go time for the people waking up, but it's also go time for the people that have the, the opportunity to give opportunity to other people. You know, if you're here and you have a company with a hundred people or you're starting one or you're growing one, think about hiring people that are in alignment because it, it just, it's going to work out better.
Alex Ferrari
Well, it's kind of like when, you know, I've spoken to so many near death experiencers that many of them, their life was going one way and they were off track. And this near death experience is the alphramp that they set themselves up. Like if I haven't figured it out by then, I need a wake up call. And then they just kind of get thrown into dying.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And coming back. And there's different variations of it. Some are more peaceful, some are not as rough, but some are extremely difficult. I think humanity is going through that now. Now we are in a rough stage right now. We're not in alignment, we're not in the road that we need to be on. So some and it's been giving us signs, drastic things. 2020 was a drastic thing. You know, 08 was a drastic thing. 99 was like there's a bunch of things that shifted the planet in 2020 pretty stopped the world literally. I believe that there's more that comes coming. What is. There's going to be something that's going to rock everything again because we haven't listened. We moved a bit, but we didn't move fast enough. We haven't moved enough. And that's I think why there's so much stuff in the world happening right now. What are your feelings on that? Like right now what are their feelings on where we're going in these next?
Mariko Frederick
I mean it's five, six years, right? It's like what do you want?
Alex Ferrari
We have to make the decision.
Mariko Frederick
What do you want? Do you want chaos? Do you want to get the, you know, parental slap on the butt or do you want to get your stuff together? There is still a moment where we can choose. It's just there's too many people choosing the wrong thing. And those who are able to choose correctly go big that's the thing. You can't keep yourself a secret. If you're here to do something or share something, like do it. It. It's important. And that's where.
Alex Ferrari
Stop effing around.
Mariko Frederick
Right. You know me, you know me. I know I'm, like, trying to. I'm trying to behave myself in my language here. So there's not too many beliefs.
Alex Ferrari
Stop effing around, get the work.
Mariko Frederick
But it's. I think they don't understand the importance of what it is they're here to do.
Alex Ferrari
Well, because of. That's imposter syndrome.
Mariko Frederick
Exactly. So I'm like, get over it. It's go time. You're asking what the Ascended Masters have to say. Like, it is go time or there's chaos. The thing is coming quickly.
Alex Ferrari
The thing I've learned in my journey is that one person can affect millions.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Of people. You know, we have been able to affect millions of people with the. With the work that we do.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And if I can do it, anyone can do it in their own way. Doesn't have to be through a show. It could be through a book, it could be working at a company. It could be a thousand different ways. But all of us have the potential to really affect the world, and we have to believe that we are worthy to do that. And that's the big thing. Because throughout our lives, most of us are told, calm down, don't dream. You're just one person. You're cog in the wheel. In the wheel. That's what we've been told. That's the programming. Especially in the west, that's the programming. We need workers. We need people to just do things and machines and so on. On. Which is the other thing that's going to happen. Now, we've been told to do these things all our lives. We told, like, if you go to school, you get this degree, you'll get this job. I don't know about you, but that doesn't apply anymore.
Mariko Frederick
No.
Alex Ferrari
And it's going to apply less and less in the next two to five years.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I mean, unless you're going for something specific, like nursing school. Okay. You do have to get a degree in that, but other than that.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, Engineering.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
But remember a few years ago, they were telling everybody, you gotta be a coder.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Go to code school.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, yeah.
Alex Ferrari
That's a future. It's future proof. We're always gonna be coding. We're always. The world's gonna be more coding. And then AI shows up and now, like, coders Are like, well, what do I do?
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, right. But see the other thing is that as much as we can look at the programming we've had and realize it's a dead end. Awakening happens in a moment. It doesn't have to take time.
Alex Ferrari
No.
Mariko Frederick
So everybody could wake up right now or even if, if you choose, if 51% of the planet woke up a little bit more, we would live in a different world. And it's a choice to trust yourself. It's a choice to trust your heart.
Alex Ferrari
But Mariko, it's scary.
Mariko Frederick
Get over it.
Alex Ferrari
I know, I know it's scary. And the reason why I'm gonna say it's scary is because I go back to that scene in the Matrix where Cypher, the bad guy is eating the steak and he's talking to the agent and he's like, I know that this steak isn't real and I don't care.
Mariko Frederick
I don't care. That's what most people are doing right now, huh?
Alex Ferrari
I know this isn't real. But I'm either too scared to go into the real world, to the reality, the truth, and I'm just going to stay in my delusion because my delusion is comfortable. Yeah, it might be painful, might be hurtful, but it's comfortable because I know it. This other thing, terrifying happened to me with the show. I stopped. I was terrified. It was the unknown. Until I finally said, okay, I'm gonna make the leap. Same thing with people. What I find fascinating about this conversation is we've had a Scarface. We've talked like this in the conversation. And we've had astral therapy, We've had a cocaine driven Cuban talking about chakras and auras and we've had a channeling session. We've covered everything.
Mariko Frederick
You invited Jim Carrey?
Alex Ferrari
Jim Carrey's been invited. Officially. Officially. Now, anyone watching who knows Jim, please put the word out. So we've had a lot of things covered in this conversation and I think that this episode is really the, the essence of what I try to do with next level. So, yeah, very deep mystical experiences. Deep stuff. Funny and laughing and making fun of things that we should make fun of. Calling. Calling what it is. It is, you know, calling a spade a spade.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, yeah.
Alex Ferrari
You're like this crazy.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
You know, it's like the Astro realm. What the hell? So it's been, it's been such a joy talking to you. Let's talk a little bit before we go about, about what we, what we created with your Astro therapy course. You know, in the course we were trying to put together. And when I say we, it's you. But, you know, I was there.
Mariko Frederick
You were there in the room, you were there, I'm there.
Alex Ferrari
I press record.
Mariko Frederick
You did more than that.
Alex Ferrari
I directed a little bit. I'm like, okay, why don't we do this or that? But generally what we were trying to do is create a kind of almost like a mini personal course on how to do astro therapy for yourself or for your friends and things like that. Right. So can you explain a little bit about what they can expect in that mastery course?
Mariko Frederick
Yeah, I think what they can expect is one trusting themselves. I mean, really, if you don't trust yourself, it's really hard to move. It's hard to do anything. Right. So I'm inviting people to trust their intuition or their imagination. See, this is the thing. People downplay it and they're am I imagining it?
Alex Ferrari
Yes.
Mariko Frederick
So what if you are? Are. So what if. What if your imagination is the. The way that your claircognizance, your knowing is showing up? Because that's usually what's happening. They have a knowing and then they imagine the knowing and they're like, I just imagined it? No, you knew it to be true. And then you create an image. Perfect. So with astral therapy, you can expect to connect to your higher body, your astral body, your body of light. You can expect to experience connecting to the higher realms. However that works for you, though. See, everybody's different. So some people have all their clairs open and they might see and feel and hear all the things. And some people, you know, if you want to Thundercats from the astral realm, he man, you had to grab Shira too. So you might experience a lot of phenomenon. But if you know me and you know me, phenomenon's not the most important thing. It's lights and sound effects. It's not. Astral therapy to me isn't about having this huge experience because now you've got you having an experience which is separate from God consciousness. But if you can experience your body of light, your consciousness, perfect. If you experience a knowing, great. And some people have a lot of experiences like you, but the ones who don't, that's perfect too, because they're going to experience exactly what they need. So it's going to be different for a lot of people, but you can experience your guide. That was one of the big goals that we set was I want them to be able to get answers. Because again, coming back to trusting yourself and some of the answers people Get. You can't make that stuff up. They're going to know. But that was not me. That was not you. That was their guide. Yeah, that was their guide. That was their higher self, their soul, whatever, giving them instructions, telling them some truths, possibly releasing something, maybe something that's been lingering, something they need to heal. Because again, I'm not really big into the lights and sound effects of all the psychic stuff because I've been, you know, my whole life, I've had it. But that's not. Not allow that. That's not a road to enlightenment, all the lights and all that stuff. It's not a road to direct enlightenment. Oneness, consciousness, remembering who you are, that's the important thing. So I'm really careful to not get too carried away with that because too much emphasis. In my experience of few decades, people get way too into the experience. I want to experience. I want to see, I want to, I want to, I want to. Like, I don't hear anything. I'm like, great, good. Do you know it? Yeah. That's so much faster now. You don't have to process what you heard and saw. And all this, it's great. It's wonderful. I have all of them open. But, like, I want to make sure that people understand that their experience is valid and true and perfect for them and it shouldn't be any other way.
Alex Ferrari
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And now back to the show. Yeah, not everyone's going to have my experience. My experience is my experience.
Mariko Frederick
Your experience was my experience.
Alex Ferrari
And what I needed.
Mariko Frederick
Your experience is always.
Alex Ferrari
But it's what I needed to see.
Mariko Frederick
It's what you need to. Because of what we're doing now. And some people might experience what they feel is like the void and a knowing. Because that's what they need.
Alex Ferrari
And that's the key to this, though.
Mariko Frederick
That's the key. You're gonna get what you need, not what you think you need, not what you think you want. Yeah. Or what your friend got or whatever. And we don't want to compare.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. It's like, oh, I didn't, I didn't see my spirit guides. Why? I didn't see. I didn't. I didn't have yoga on the show for me. I'm like, that's not your, that's not the point.
Mariko Frederick
Point.
Alex Ferrari
It's kind of like the, the yogic traps. The, the, the yogic powers, the cities. I forgot what they're actually called. But the, the levitation, the biolocation, the manifestation of ash or something like that. Or these powers, the yogic powers that come along as you're on the road to enlightenment. They're kind of traps. Yeah. Because you can spend 30 years figuring out how to levitate.
Mariko Frederick
Right.
Alex Ferrari
And it's done. It's been done. It's. It's something that can be done. Or telekinesis or moving things with their mind, using the force, all this kind of stuff. But it's, it's all these yogic powers that people will get just by the nature of going on the road to enlightenment. It's, it's paratechnics. Just like, oh, that's nice. Let's keep going.
Mariko Frederick
Keep going.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, this like. Like, you know, and I'm just always keep going and not get caught up, not get trapped by these things. And this is something similar. People can get addicted to this.
Mariko Frederick
Yeah. I'm really, really careful with everyone I work with, though, that, like, do not get caught up in the lights and sound effects. That is not enlightenment.
Alex Ferrari
That's not the point.
Mariko Frederick
It's not the point. It's not my point. It's not what I want for people. It's not my soul assignment to entertain people. That's not what we're here for. Aligning with who you truly are, remembering who you are. And that's really what astral therapy is. It's a change chance to go into the higher realms to remember who you are. From there, if you're remembering correctly, you'll remember that you are love, you are joy, you are bliss. You are not lights and sound effects. You are not whoever you were in a past life. And that's why I also don't do readings as far as, like, who was I in every past life? It's sometimes it's so deeply healing and helpful to find out, but that's just not my work because I'm kind of like, well, I don't care who you used to be. Who are you now? What are you here to do? And how do you stay on track with that, with enlightenment? And my thing is like, yes, I want people to move into a higher state consciousness, move toward enlightenment and pay their bills. And that's why I was calling on companies and CEOs, because people need to do both. We can't choose anymore. That's the problem. That's why this world is broken. That's why the Matrix, the illusion we're in, is going to run out of time and we're moving into crisis. We can't choose both at the same time. And so we have to choose money because we have to feed our children. But we don't. We do need to feed our children, but we shouldn't have.
Alex Ferrari
It's not the 80s, okay? This is not the Gen X crowd that you just get thrown out into the street until midnight.
Mariko Frederick
Loaf of bread and a fire hose. No, no. But you, you can't choose only money and success because success is empty without love. And too many millionaires and billionaires have found that out. That's so sad, because they found that they got everything and it was nothing. And so that's why I think the guides were calling on the CEOs and people who have opportunities to give Call in the people whose soul assignment are in alignment with yours because now they don't have to choose between feeding their families and being in alignment.
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully said. And the other thing that we did while you were here is shoot a little series that will leave a little bit mysterious at the moment, but we did shoot a series that will be coming out on Next level. So Soul TV as well coming up. So we've done a lot while you've been busy.
Mariko Frederick
We've been busy. I'm so excited about this series and
Alex Ferrari
it's because of the cocaine, but that's why we're working all the time.
Mariko Frederick
But on that note, I don't know what's in here. Cheers.
Alex Ferrari
I love this. This is great. On that note, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?
Mariko Frederick
My website, Marika. I'm sorry, Soulpriority.com s o u l sole priority. And I'm on Instagram dicofredrick and Facebook and YouTube. Marikofredrick TV.
Alex Ferrari
Yes. And people, I have a feeling they're going to reach out to you to try to get an astro therapy session from you. Can you just explain that process? Because it's open, but it's not open at the same time.
Mariko Frederick
There's an application process because I have an Astral Therapy membership and so that's where a lot of people can receive an Astral Therapy. It's not one on one, it's a group and I do a live Astral therapy every month. Other than that, there's an application on my website. You can click on it. I think it says one on one Astral Therapy and people can apply there and if it's the right fit, we'll put you where, you know, depending on what you're ready for and what you're looking for. Like some people are looking for something so simple that I'm like, oh my gosh, you'll get that in the membership. And then other people have a lot that they want to work through. I'm like, okay, that we need a conversation. I need two hours with you.
Alex Ferrari
Right. And, and, and then a lot of them can actually get a lot of it through the course and a lot
Mariko Frederick
of it they're going to get. That's my goal is how, how many people can we help just through the
Alex Ferrari
course and get them where they need to be.
Mariko Frederick
Get them where they need to be and then have them also be self sufficient with it.
Alex Ferrari
Right. It could be the course course could be level one membership, level two and then if you really need it, a
Mariko Frederick
one on one, we're going intergalactic. Yeah, that at that point, I remember you said that after you, you, you. When we finished the first astral the. And you go, whoa, that was like interstellar the movie.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it was very interstellar. I felt, I felt like I was going through wormholes and it was. There was all sorts of craziness happening. I just love this conversation because we covered a lot of ground. We had a lot of fun. We did and, and a lot of cooking. So
Mariko Frederick
we're waiting for the Cuban accent show.
Alex Ferrari
Oh my God.
Mariko Frederick
It's going to be 100% and.
Alex Ferrari
But the thing is a lot of people don't know that I'm Cuban. So they're like, I can't believe that this white guy is using the Cuban accent. Cultural appropriations.
Mariko Frederick
And I'm like, I thought you were Italian.
Alex Ferrari
I don't know. I'm, I've. I am Cuban. I am Cuban.
Mariko Frederick
Well, I want a whole show. I think I'm speaking on behalf of everybody. We want a whole show with a Cuban accent with all the made up words like the vacuum cleaner and the other one like refrigerator.
Alex Ferrari
There was refrigerator, which is fridiaire, which is basically just frigid air in Spanish finish pullover, which is a sweater in Cuban. But it's a pull over. That took me forever to figure out. Yeah, it's. Well, I might do a special Christmas special starring the, the Cuban version of
Mariko Frederick
my accent or at least an April 1st version. Like somehow you've got to do something
Alex Ferrari
just something like that. Okay, man. Today we're gonna talk about.
Mariko Frederick
I know there's like spiritual comedians out there.
Alex Ferrari
Well, Kyle, Kyle sees.
Mariko Frederick
Is he okay?
Alex Ferrari
Kyle? Yeah, Kyle is.
Mariko Frederick
Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Kyle is a former stand up who uses humor for transformation.
Mariko Frederick
So he needs to be the one.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, no. When he's coming on the show in a few weeks and when he comes in, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do. We're gonna do a bit. We have to.
Mariko Frederick
You have to now.
Alex Ferrari
And now I have to. You know what? If I'm gonna do a Cuban episode, it's gonna be with him. It has to be.
Mariko Frederick
It has to be. Yeah. You have to have a comedian here who could actually like go back and forth.
Alex Ferrari
It could be Jim. Maybe Jim will do.
Mariko Frederick
Well. Jim too.
Alex Ferrari
Jim.
Mariko Frederick
We need Jim. Yeah. I think on the comments, just people are manifesting Jim Carrey being here as well as.
Alex Ferrari
Yes. If anyone knows him, please reach out and put that energy on the world. I think he would, I think if Jim came on, the show would be a pretty impactful.
Mariko Frederick
I think it would be really.
Alex Ferrari
I think it could really affect a lot of people and help a lot of people get a much clearer idea. Because I don't think he has been asked deep questions. I think it's all been real superficial stuff over because the shows that he's been on are, you know, you know, talk shows. I think we could go a little deeper.
Mariko Frederick
A lot deeper, maybe profound.
Alex Ferrari
And it would be funny.
Mariko Frederick
It would be funny, yeah. And I think it would be, yeah, well, he's coming. He's got to come. The world needs him. If he's here to serve. This is a great platform.
Alex Ferrari
So it has been a pleasure having you here and thank you so much for, for being here and working with us on our court, on the course and the series, and for everything you're doing to awaken the planet. So thank you.
Mariko Frederick
Thank you so much for having me. It was so fun being back here.
Alex Ferrari
Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at next levelsoul.com forward/699 and if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV. Until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking and keep walking your path towards the next level of
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Release Date: June 13, 2026
Guest: Mariko Frederick
Host: Alex Ferrari
In this rich and playful conversation, host Alex Ferrari welcomes returning guest Mariko Frederick—near-death experiencer, spiritual teacher, and founder of “Soul Priority”—to discuss her unique method: Astral Therapy. The episode dives deep into the lived reality and transformative impact of near-death experiences, the soul’s assignment, frequency shifts, navigating spiritual imposter syndrome, the nature and practice of Astral Therapy, CEO-level consciousness, and the role of joy and humor on the spiritual path.
[07:05] Mariko Frederick:
“You come back with this imprint of the other side...you come back almost like you’ve been reformatted with infinity and a knowledge of it, but not in like an ego, ‘look what I know,’ but more of like, ‘oh, this is who we all are.’”
[11:04] Mariko Frederick:
“It took me almost 20 years to talk about it...It’s so sacred. There’s no human words to talk about it with. Even when we say the words like bliss, infinite love—it just falls short.”
[20:03] Mariko Frederick:
“You don’t have to be ashamed of it...You don’t have to feel imposter syndrome around it, which was a huge thing for me.”
[22:16] Alex Ferrari:
“Those little whispers, which eventually turn into a sledgehammer...I’ve learned a long time ago to just listen.”
[33:15] Mariko Frederick:
“It’s going into the higher realms...I bring people into the highest realm that they’ve been incarnating in, or at the very least the astral realm.”
[41:11] Alex Ferrari:
“As we were going through it...I’m thinking, am I just making this up? But then things start showing up in the brain that I’m like—I can’t, I can’t even make this up.”
[67:03] Mariko Frederick:
“Because, I mean, if you think Next Level Soul is big now, give them a minute and it’s—It’s gonna grow...it has to live beyond you—it’s important.”
[97:25] Mariko Frederick:
“It is also up to you to create an atmosphere where you are hiring people of a higher consciousness who are here, and their soul's mission is to work with your company...That's the enlightened company.”
[95:53] Mariko Frederick:
“You have to have fun. Spirituality cannot be this, like, deep, hard...supposed to be fun.”
[115:45] Mariko Frederick:
“My goal is how many people can we help just through the course and get them where they need to be...and then have them be self-sufficient with it.”
On Bringing Back “the Other Side”:
“You come back not with just the knowledge mentally, but it’s like...the library of truth with you, in your heart.”
– Mariko Frederick [07:05]
On Integration After NDE:
“How do I explain that you are all essentially a unit of God’s consciousness, that we are all one? Yeah, we hear that, but, like, really feel and experience it.”
– Mariko Frederick [12:00]
On Imposter Syndrome:
“You don't have to be ashamed of it...You don't have to feel imposter syndrome around it, which was a huge thing for me.”
– Mariko Frederick [20:03]
On The Modern Spiritual CEO:
“Imagine if companies attracted people that are working with them, not in a hierarchy, because it’s what their soul is here to do...That’s my team.”
– Mariko Frederick [77:38]
On Playfulness:
“You have to have fun...our soul loves joy!”
– Mariko Frederick [96:01]
Powerful Soul Prompt:
“The big thing [from the guides]...It’s go time. This idea that you’re not ready, that it’s not for you, that you’re not qualified, is a lie. It doesn’t exist in the higher realms. You are literally made for the thing you are here to do. Nobody else can take your place. This is for you.”
– Mariko Frederick [97:25]
On Facing the Unknown:
“What I’ve learned is that one person can affect millions of people...all of us have the potential to really affect the world, and we have to believe that we are worthy to do that.”
– Alex Ferrari [111:17]
This episode offers a uniquely grounded, deeply personal, and at times hilarious look at high-frequency soul work. Both Alex and Mariko model what accessible, heart-led spirituality can look like—melding radical honesty, mystical experience, and practical wisdom.
Whether you’re seeking to make sense of a major spiritual awakening, step into your soul assignment (at work or at home), or simply bring more joy and lightness to your spiritual path, this multi-layered conversation delivers insight, permission, and plenty of “astral” encouragement to take your next step—wherever that might lead.
Learn more about Mariko Frederick:
Website: soulpriority.com | Instagram/Facebook/YouTube: Mariko Frederick TV
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