Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

BONUS MONDAYS: DEATHBED VISIONS: 12 Stages of DEATH – What REALLY Happens As Loved Ones DIE & PASS ON!

Guest: Julie Ryan (Psychic & Medical Intuitive)
Date: April 7, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, host Alex Ferrari welcomes psychic and medical intuitive Julie Ryan to demystify the process of dying and what transpires during the transition from life to death. Julie, an accomplished entrepreneur and inventor who became a renowned medical intuitive, shares her personal journey, insights gained from thousands of cases, and a detailed explanation of the "12 Phases of Transition"—a framework she developed based on her observations at the end of life.

The episode explores spiritual, emotional, and metaphysical aspects of dying, challenges common fears, and discusses the roles of angels, spirit guides, deceased loved ones, and even pets during the transition process. The conversation also touches on quantum physics, past lives, karma, parallel realities, and how everyone can access intuitive abilities.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Julie Ryan’s Journey: From Business to “Woo Woo”

• Julie describes herself as a “businesswoman who learned how to do woo woo” and emphasizes that intuitive and psychic abilities can be learned and practiced by anyone ([04:14]).
• Inspiration began with books such as Anatomy of the Spirit (Caroline Myss) and Hands of Light (Barbara Brennan), culminating in formal study and teaching (06:08).

Spirituality Meets Quantum Physics

• Julie explains that our minds act like satellite dishes, tuning into the frequencies of spirits—living or deceased—just by thinking of them ([07:43]).
• She links energetic healing to quantum physics concepts, referencing her medical intuitive abilities to scan and energetically “diagnose” clients ([09:34]).

“Our heads are like big satellite dishes… In order to get in touch with any spirit, you just think of them and that immediately tunes your satellite dish head to their frequency.”
— Julie Ryan ([07:43])

Overcoming Stigma: Coming Out as a Medical Intuitive

• Julie shares initial fears of ridicule from her business peers, which changed after unexpectedly positive reactions from “C Suite” executives ([10:40], [13:58]).

Everyday Intuition

• Everyone has intuition; those “coincidences” (thinking of someone and receiving their message) are evidence of these natural abilities ([15:16]).

The 12 Phases of Transition: What Happens as We Die

Unique Perspective

Julie provides a detailed, step-by-step look at what happens as a person approaches death, focusing on the spiritual dynamics, validated by both her work and recent scientific studies ([16:22]).

1. Spiritual Sequence

• Spirit exits the body through the top of the head, hovering like a “speech bubble” attached by a cord ([20:07]).
• Maternal line spirit (e.g., mother or maternal grandmother) is the first to appear, followed by paternal spirits, then angels described in Catholic imagery ([20:07], [22:26]).
• Growing assembly: circle, then horseshoe, then a straight line of spirits as death nears ([16:56]).

2. Arrival of Angelic and Animal Spirits

• Pets and animals arrive around phases 7–8, joined by deceased friends and extended family ([22:32]).
• Two large angels arrive around phase 9, their wings slowly creating a vortex above the spirit “bubble” ([23:52]).

“The movement of those angels’ wings creates a vortex above the person’s spirit bubble, above their head... That movement is what disconnects the spirit from the body.”
— Julie Ryan ([23:52])

3. Final Phases

• In phase 11, spirit disconnects from the body. Angels escort the spirit “up and to the right,” a direction Julie later found aligns with scientific explanations of vortex lift ([26:19]).
• Phase 12: Angels escort the spirit to heaven, through what Julie perceives as a “plasma wall” of white/yellow light ([28:03], [57:24]).

“Everybody goes through the 12 phases, regardless of how they die. The 12 phases can happen instantly… or last over days, weeks, months, even years.”
— Julie Ryan ([18:51])

4. Comfort for the Living

• Julie emphasizes that even those who die alone are surrounded by spirits, angels, and deceased loved ones—no one dies alone ([56:51]).
• Her work supports, and is supported by, growing university-based research showing 90% of dying people report seeing loved ones or spirit guides near death ([18:51]).

What Happens After Death?

• Spirit passes through the “plasma wall,” greeted by “Welcome to Heaven Committee” of loved ones ([57:24]).
• Instant life reviews are available—“not sitting in a room watching PowerPoint presentations,” but instant universal comprehension ([63:23]).
• All spirits go to heaven; there is no judgment or “frying”/punishment ([57:03]).

Spirit Guides, Angels, and the Support System

• Everyone has at least one guardian angel that presides over all their lifetimes ([39:35]).
• Spirit guides (usually seven, as perceived by Julie) and countless spirits support our journey. Deceased loved ones, friends from all lifetimes, and even famous or ascended personalities can appear as guides or helpers ([41:02]).
• Angels and guides nudge but never force; free will always prevails ([44:34], [64:04]).

“We're all part of... what some people call the collective consciousness. I call it source.”
— Julie Ryan ([41:48])

Free Will, Soul Agreements, and Life Purpose

• Julie dismisses strict predestination, affirming that while souls choose families and circumstances for learning, free will and the desire to explore are central ([47:17]).
• Life’s journey is viewed as a script explored from many perspectives over multiple (even parallel) lifetimes ([44:34], [76:54]).

“In the spirit world, there's no right or wrong. There's no good or bad. It's just an experience. And every experience expands our spirit. It's what all those past lives are about.”
— Julie Ryan ([44:34])

Past Lives, Karma, and Parallel Realities

• Julie describes her process for intuitively exploring past lives—using a “hall of mirrors” visualization to quickly identify key lifetimes influencing present challenges ([76:54]).
• Karma is framed as a frequency or habitual pattern rather than moral retribution ([66:55]).
• She speculates on the existence of parallel realities and multiverses, referencing astrophysics and the spiritual principle that we are all aspects of source; however, she distinguishes her perspective from some multiverse interpretations ([69:40]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On dying:

  “All spirits are pure love. That’s—let’s establish [that up front].”
  — Julie Ryan ([16:22])

• On coming out as intuitive:

  “It took me several years to get enough golden ovary courage to do that... I thought, oh my God, people are just gonna think I'm nuts.”
  — Julie Ryan ([10:40])

• On the 12 Phases:

  “What I see in my mind’s eye...is a sequence of events that involve angels, deceased loved ones, and the spirits of pets. It starts as a circle, forms a horseshoe, opens into a line as the person leaves.”
  — Julie Ryan ([16:56])

• On life reviews:

  “We have all knowledge, we understand everything... It's not like we sit in a room, in a classroom, and watch PowerPoint presentations all day.”
  — Julie Ryan ([63:23])

Key Timestamps

• Julie’s background and awakening: [04:14]–[06:46]
• Quantum physics & energetic healing: [07:43]–[09:34]
• Embracing ‘woo woo’: societal stigma and acceptance: [10:40]–[13:58]
• Intuition in everyday life: [15:16]
• Introduction to the 12 Phases of Transition: [16:22]–[20:07]
• Phases explained, animal spirits, angelic vortex: [22:26]–[26:19]
• Verification from scientific studies: [18:51], [26:19]
• Passing through the plasma wall: [57:03]
• Afterlife, life reviews, and judgment: [63:23]
• Guardian angels and spirit guides: [39:35]–[41:02]
• Free will, life planning, developing skills: [47:17]–[52:54]
• Past lives, karma, and influence on current life: [66:55], [76:54]
• Parallel realities and multiverse discussion: [69:40]–[72:00]

Final Reflections

Julie’s approach demystifies death, grounding spiritual phenomena in both personal experience and emerging scientific research. Her hope is to provide comfort, dispel fear, and encourage everyone to recognize and cultivate their innate intuitive abilities.

“Everybody can do this stuff. Absolutely, everybody. It’s a matter of just developing and enhancing the skills that we all come in with.”
— Julie Ryan ([81:55])

Learn More & Free Resources

• Julie offers free digital and audiobook downloads of her book Angelic Attendance via her website: askjulieryan.com ([81:04])
• For further exploration: nextlevelsoul.com

Summary prepared for those seeking clarity, comfort, and curiosity about the soul’s journey and what awaits beyond the veil.