BONUS MONDAYS: HUMANITY 2.0: Prepare YOURSELF for the NEXT EVOLUTION of MANKIND NOW! with Richard Rudd

Summary

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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

BONUS MONDAYS: HUMANITY 2.0: Prepare YOURSELF for the NEXT EVOLUTION of MANKIND NOW!

Guest: Richard Rudd
Date: November 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this powerful and visionary episode, Alex Ferrari sits down with Richard Rudd, author and creator of the Gene Keys system, to explore the coming shift in humanity's evolution—what Rudd calls "Humanity 2.0." Drawing from his personal spiritual awakening and the esoteric synthesis of genetics, mysticism, and ancient wisdom, Rudd discusses the potential mutation of human consciousness, the architecture of our DNA, and how each person can discover their higher purpose. Along the way, the conversation dives deep into the Gene Keys, shadow work, the dynamics of cosmic codes, and the promise of a transcendent future for humankind.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Richard Rudd’s Awakening and the Origins of Gene Keys

• Spiritual Download Experience (03:38–07:45)
  • Rudd recounts a three-day period in his late 20s (1996) where he entered “another state of consciousness”.
  • "I woke up one morning... and I woke up into another state of consciousness. ...I was filled with light. I was illuminated from inside my being." (06:18 – Richard Rudd)
  • He experienced zero resistance in his body, total freedom, and a flood of insight and clarity about his life’s destiny.
• Processing the Awakening (09:22–14:49)
  • Integration was difficult and took years; he grappled with confusion and grandiosity before arriving at understanding.
  • Connects his experience to the Tibetan concept of “tama” (hidden treasure teachings revealed in future initiates).
• Transitioning to the Gene Keys (14:06–17:16)
  • Began forming loose frameworks using modalities like Human Design and the I Ching before his own teachings “landed”.

2. The DNA, Light, and Metaphysics of Human Structure

• DNA as a Wormhole and Vessel of Light (15:14–17:16)
  • Rudd describes a mystical vision of DNA emitting light: "Our DNA was literally exuding light... it's actually in the matter of our helix."
  • Posits DNA as a “plastic, malleable, open system” and the “software” of our being, programmable and reprogrammable.

3. Ancient Civilizations and the Trinary Human

• Sky Gods, the Anunnaki, and Lost DNA (17:23–22:54)
  • Addresses humanity’s mythic origins—sky gods, the Anunnaki—interpreted as symbols of higher consciousness incarnating in dualistic, binary form.
  • "I dropped a part of the DNA... I dropped the third strand in order to come into this binary reality." (19:11 – Richard Rudd)
  • The trinity is essential in his model—suggesting ‘the third helix’, trinary consciousness, is our lost potential, echoed in ancient religions.

4. Explaining the Gene Keys

• Core Explanation (22:54–27:26)

  • Gene Keys is a system mapping 64 codes of consciousness—analogous to 64 codons in DNA and the I Ching hexagrams.
  • “It's a map of our shadow patterns and how we can transform them into gifts and eventually into transcendent states." (26:24 – Richard Rudd)

• Journey from Shadow to Gift to Siddhi

  • Each Gene Key operates across three frequency bands: Shadow, Gift, and Siddhi (transcendent).
  • Example (30:13–34:01): Gene Key 29 – Half-heartedness (Shadow) → Commitment (Gift) → Devotion (Siddhi).
    • “Anytime you're doing something in your life in a half-hearted fashion is destined to fail.” (33:40 – Richard Rudd)

5. How the Gene Keys System Works

• Personal Contemplation and Shadow Work (34:46–39:43)
  • Unlike astrology, the Gene Keys profile is used as a contemplative, self-directed system, not as fortune-telling.
  • Transformation requires not just “positive thought” but courageous engagement with shadow material.
  • “You want to get wisdom, it takes time. You want knowledge, you can get it quickly. Wisdom is slow burn.” (74:49 – Richard Rudd)

6. Cosmic Patterns, Predestination, and Choice

• The Illusion/Fabric of Choice (39:02–42:18)
  • At the highest consciousness, all is choicelessness; at our level, we experience the illusion of free will.
  • “When you’re at the highest level, there’s no one to choose... there's just the pattern unfolding in its perfection.” (39:43 – Richard Rudd)
  • The 64-fold matrix is the “motherboard of the simulation.”

7. The Next Human Evolution—Humanity 2.0

• The New Mutation (43:37–47:18)
  • Gene Keys is ultimately about catalyzing the next leap in human evolution—our “superpowers” or “Siddhis” lying dormant in our DNA.
  • “What’s the future human being look like?... those are states of consciousness embedded inside you as a living potential.” (43:37–46:39 – Richard Rudd)
• Culture, Sci-Fi, and Paradigm Shifts (52:58–56:03)
  • Films and fiction (X-Men, Matrix, Star Trek/Wars) act as cultural “preparations” for the coming shift and higher consciousness.

8. The Challenge Ahead for Humanity

• Prophecy of the Coming Crisis and Rebirth (56:03–63:57)
  • Rudd forecasts a period of global crisis and trauma—the “birth” of a new humanity via intense pressure.
  • Symbol: the dragonfly’s rapid, miraculous transformation as a metaphor for sudden human transcendence.
    • “We have a dragon inside our genome... it's got to go through this process of leaving its old environment, ...then... something of another dimension is going to emerge.” (62:29 – Richard Rudd)

9. Practical Wisdom: Applying the Gene Keys

• Obstacles and Guidance for Beginners (71:58–76:42)
  • Gene Keys is not about amassing external knowledge, but awakening inner wisdom through gentle contemplation.
  • “The only purpose is for you to go towards it gently and be patient and then use the art of contemplation. ...Wisdom is slow burn.” (74:49 – Richard Rudd)
• Frequency and Vibration (78:50–83:14)
  • The “spectrum of consciousness” maps how transforming your “shadow frequency” raises your vibration, attracting new realities.
  • “As you transform those shadows... you realize you've shifted frequency... DNA is operating at a different level.” (81:11 – Richard Rudd)
  • Shadow work is essential—law of attraction only works after deep integration.
  • “Unseen grace is where you don't realize you already have right now everything exactly as you need it.” (83:14 – Richard Rudd)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the next human:
  “There is a new kind of human coming, and... this is going to require a mutation of us... in our species... it has happened in the past, that we've mutated.” (43:56)
• On wisdom vs. knowledge:
  "Knowledge is something that's put into you and this is not... This is something that's here to access wisdom. And wisdom is already inside you." (71:58–76:42)
• On facing skepticism:
  "I respect that kind of view. ...I understand that it must seem crazy, but I think once you've had some awakened experience... everything begins to change inside you." (67:58)
• On fulfillment:
  "It's about the love of each step along the ladders of frequency... fulfillment is here now. It's not in the future..." (87:09)
• On the ultimate purpose:
  “...I started to laugh and I laughed and I laughed... because that was the answer for me. ...The answer is laughter.” (90:50)
• On the shadow work:
  "You have to do the shadow work. ...You can’t bypass that inner work." (83:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:38 – Richard Rudd describes his spiritual awakening
• 15:14 – DNA, wormholes, and light
• 17:23 – Humanity’s origins, trinary DNA, and the Anunnaki
• 22:54 – What are the Gene Keys?
• 30:13 – Example of applying a Gene Key (29: Half-heartedness)
• 34:46 – Science, energy, and patterns in Gene Keys
• 39:02 – Time, choice, and the “simulation”
• 43:37 – Dormant human “superpowers” and the 64 Siddhis
• 56:03 – The coming global crisis, dragonfly metaphor
• 63:57 – Institutions in collapse, the optimism of transformation
• 67:58 – Responding to skeptics
• 71:58 – How to start with the Gene Keys, facing obstacles
• 78:50 – Frequency, vibration, and the Law of Attraction
• 87:09 – What is a fulfilled life?
• 90:50 – The ultimate purpose of life: laughter
• 91:48 – Where to find Richard Rudd and Gene Keys resources

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Resources Mentioned

• Gene Keys official website
• Free “Triple Flame” contemplation app (App Store)
• Richard Rudd’s YouTube channel: Gene Keys

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Conclusion

This episode invites us to contemplate the boundaries of human potential and purpose. Richard Rudd’s synthesis of modern genetics with mystical insight lays out a path to personal and planetary transformation, urging every individual to engage in gentle self-exploration, embrace shadow work, and attune to the frequencies that herald Humanity 2.0. The future, he suggests, is both inevitable and sublime—and we each carry the seeds of its manifestation within.

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“We have a dragon inside our genome... it's got to go through this process of leaving its old environment ...then... something of another dimension is going to emerge.”
— Richard Rudd (62:29)

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Transcript

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[Richard Rudd]

Hey, good, Alex, Nice to be here.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's such a pleasure having you on the show, my friend. You, you, your work is kind of rippling across the world and your story on how you got to the ideas in the Gene Keynes G Gene keys, excuse me, are pretty remarkable. So from what I understand, you had kind of like a download or spiritual awakening that brought this into the world. Can you kind of talk to us a little bit about that?

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, I, I, I mean, I don't like to use the word download. Everyone seems to use that. Everyone's downloading nowadays, you know, but I, yeah, I, I had an experience, a kind of rare experience, I think when I, back In my late 20s, that was in 1996, and, and I woke up one morning in my bed and I woke up into a, another state of consciousness. So I went from sleep into awakened consciousness and it, so it felt very natural, but it also was completely different. And so I stayed in that for three days and three nights and, and it was in those days that in those days and nights I didn't sleep at all that I kind of, I mean, it's not like I, I knew what was happening to me, but, and it's not like I received the gene keys or a set of teachings or anything like that. Nothing that none of that came to way later, years later. But I did have a, a big revelation about truth and the nature of reality and, you know, my destiny, I guess, and what I am, who I am, those kind of things. There were some personal things, but there was also a, a sense of remembering and coming home and, and it was all very, even though it was, my mind was just hugely expanded. I was also very present and very in my body. And you know, I didn't eat anything either. I couldn't eat and I couldn't sleep. I didn't, I mean, I didn't want to sleep because it was so captivating, blissful and. Yeah, so that was, that was how it started.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, let me ask you, Richard. So when you said that you have, that you're an awakened consciousness, that's a fairly broad term. So for all of us who in, in the audience who have not been spiritually awakened and they've been in spiritual consciousness like you have, what actually was going on? Were you seeing visions? Was it just a feeling of you just walking around kind of in this blissful high for three days? What, what, what was it exactly?

[Richard Rudd]

One way to describe it is I was, I threw light. I was filled with light. I was lit up from within. I was illuminated from inside my being. And that light kind of just kept streaming through me in, into. And it didn't stop. It just went on forever, infinitely. And the other thing I experienced was zero resistance anywhere in my body. So no fear, no doubt, nothing. All of that normal human background unease was just gone, evaporated. And so I, I, I was in a state of complete freedom. I guess I didn't, it felt very natural, but I didn't really kind of question it at the time. I guess it was just, okay, this is, my mind was also kind of there on different levels, but the very human mind was sort of there inquiring and going, well, this is interesting. I can find stuff out.

[Alex Ferrari]

So did you, did you start asking questions? Were you, did you have a guide? Or did anyone like, show up and go, hey, Richard, this is the time. Come with me? Nothing like that.

[Richard Rudd]

No, there was no guides because there was no, there was no sort of, there was, that wasn't that sense of separation between me and another being. Although I did have a kind of, I did have visionary states within the other state.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure.

[Richard Rudd]

You know, and so I, so I kind of. Because I was curious with my mind to know things. I trained my mind. I said, when I say I trained it, I kind of sent it into different directions. Asking. It wasn't like consciously asking questions. It was like, I wonder what death is like, you know, things like that. And then it, and then I would just explore the memory of dying and the kind of understanding of the process of dying. And it just always there. And, and lots of things I asked. You know, I was kind of nosy.

[Alex Ferrari]

As you should be, sir.

[Richard Rudd]

As you should be. I was like, well, what about me? No, who's this, what's this thing? And what's my. And I was like, can I see in the future? And, and I, yeah, it was quite a thing.

[Alex Ferrari]

So did. You know, there's a couple, there's a bunch of questions I want to ask you. One is how during, since that time you were what, in your late 20s when that happened?

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So we, we. Obviously, the smartest point in your Entire life, the most evolved point of your entire life. You've only been downhill from there, obviously, because that happens to all 20 year olds. Or at least that's what all 20 year olds think. Exactly.

[Richard Rudd]

I was full of angst is the reality. That's the word.

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly. So since that moment, have you figured out why this happened to you? Because this is a special, I mean everyone's capable of doing what you did, that I understand. But you were just kind of like, you weren't looking for it, you just literally woke up into it, which is a pretty remarkable thing.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, I, I have, I, I think I'm, I'm kind of aware of some of the reasons behind that now because I've had a long time to contemplate it and sort of integrate it. And that wasn't easy in the beginning at all. You know, for, for years I was really confused and lost and, and kind of. I, you know, I, at one point I thought I was the Messiah and another point I just thought it, I just went into denial. And, and you know, when I say point, like some of those phases lasted several weeks or, you know, and so I had to make sense of it, but yet by now I have kind of made more sense of it. And I came across a teaching in from the Tibetans where they call it tama, which means treasure. And these are like revelations that are kind of, it's almost like their idea of they're hidden in the past to be discovered in the future. And, and, and what happens is they're revealed in the minds of certain llamas or initiates and they, and they just spontaneously come alive like they've been waiting. And, and it was a bit like that experience for me. It's like I, I, there was this transmission, this wisdom transmission that was waiting for me and, and, and then it came alive and inside me. And then I had to figure out what am I supposed to do with it.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, and that's the thing, is that when you're in your late 20s, this happens to you. You're, don't eat, don't sleep for three days. You come out of this now, you get slammed back into the real world and now all those other things start happening. How did you process this event? I mean, this is some, I mean, look, I've had a couple of visions here and there just while I meditate. And it took me a minute to process things that I've seen in my meditations or experienced or felt aspects of what you're talking about. But this is a completely different level. And at the end, with no training, no one there guiding you, nothing. How did you process this?

[Richard Rudd]

Man, it just took time. Actually, I think being ordinary really helped, you know, And I was married and so I had a, had a child. And that, that helped because it grounded me, even though it was very confusing. But in those early days, I didn't have a, I didn't have a structure or a form. There was things I was interested in, I was into, I got interest in, like the human design system and the I Ching and all those things that most people have explored who are watching this.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Dan Morgan]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Richard Rudd]

And they kind of formed loose frameworks for me, some of those things and helped me to kind of create a sort of sense of landing. There was one point where I turned and I went into a sort of mad professor mode, I remember. And I literally, I was downloading and I kind of started receiving all kinds of things that became gene keys later a teaching. And I had them up on my wall in my room and I was just scribbling and writing and things and. And it looked like kind of a mad scientist sort of inside of his brain because I was just seeing things and making connections and, and that was quite a phase. Yeah. But I, I made sense of it slowly.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now you mentioned something and before I want. Because we're gonna go deep into the gene kings. Gene. I can't say that word. Gene keys. I want to say Gene Keen. Gene keys.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Before we go deep into the gene keys, you mentioned something about the structure of how we're made up. I'm assuming going into the DNA and understanding that. Is that what you're talking about?

[Richard Rudd]

Partly, yes. I mean I had that experience of the DNA. You know, I didn't know anything about DNA really much, but I had the experience of going into our DNA being like a wormhole, you know, in it. So, so that, so we were made up of wormholes, you know, and that every. And that reality is made up of wormholes. And at any point you can fall into one and come out in another dimension and that, you know, we are a kind of living repository of wisdom and, and it's just a matter of how do we. The structure of DNA was like. Is really interesting to me because it's sort last line before the subatomic world where you can't kind of. It's hard, you know, that's where things start to kind of reality starts to dissolve and become less reliable. So DNA is quite. It's a. It's a fixed but malleable kind of quite plastic open system that. It's, it's. It's our software really. So it, so it. We can program it and reprogram it. And that's why it became really interesting to me and that's why I kind of named the gene keys after genes and genetics and genius. And it's not because I'm an expert in that realm in any way at all, but because I learned that that's a part of us. Because my DNA was, was literally exuding light. You Know, it was, it photons were coming out of it and I was like, wow, it's actually in us, this light. It's, it's actually in the matter of, of the spiral of our helix, you know, where this light is wound up inside us. And then when it gets released as an illumination or as a revelation or as an insight or a mystical vision or, you know, just a burst of love really, it's because it's actually kind of in. We're enveloped in it. Yeah. That was quite a thing to, to realize that we're made of light.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, yeah, I mean from, I mean I've spoken to so many near death experiencers who've talk about beings of light constantly.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which I wanted to take it back a few hundred thousand years if we can on this, on this topic, because. And I just want to hear your thoughts on this. You know, every great civil, every great civilization, every great culture, if you go far enough back there is a origin story of humanity, which usually is sky gods, like you know, beings, those kind of things. The Anunnaki in Sumerian times. Do you have any insight to any of that during your work? If you've seen anything or heard, not heard. Have you heard anything on the streets now? Have you had any, any kind of downloads or anything? Because if you go so deep into our genetics, these ideas, I'm just curious if you had any cross pollination. I did.

[Richard Rudd]

You know, I don't talk about it very often because I don't want to. I, I guess I don't want to go too woo woo, you know, but.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, listen, this show, since you asked.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

This show, I always, I agree with you. I generally don't like to go woo woo. But with something like the Anunnaki and then that's historical. It's on, it's on stone tablets and it's everywhere. So it's, it's not, it's not tinfoil Hattie time.

[Richard Rudd]

So that's one of the, it's one of the kind of understandings that I think Robert Grant and I kind of had together where we would talk. We were kind of searching into the sort of source codes of what became Egyptian mythology. But actually was earlier was, was, you know, something else. And so I did at some point had a, I had a commemorary for myself of the birth of my soul and on the, on this planet and what I experienced and, and was that I'd had a different kind of DNA that enabled, you know, in another reality that had enabled me to, in that Reality to transcend a physic, the physical reality. Right. And, and that what had happened is I dropped a part of the DNA. So he, so one of the helixes, you know, one of the strands, I dropped the third strand in order to come into this binary reality. And, and I'm not the only, you know, that's, I, and it was a metaphor as well as, like, wow, that's what happens to higher consciousness when it wants to form into a human form. It has to drop that third aspect, which, which is the transcendent aspect of. And then it makes a sacrifice and comes down into this double helix in order to kind of become part of a, of a, of a dualistic reality, which is what we live in. You know, and so I think that was, that was a really profound thing. And, and because there was a lot of ancient teachings connected to, to that for me. And it, it was a sort of memory, physical memory that I had as my soul kind of came down here. So I think that's why, you know, when I had my other experience, I kind of had the memory of. Well, that's what it's like to have the third strand operating, you know, because then, because if you have three, you have this, you have this, this essence of transcendence. And, and in my teaching, through the gene keys and everything I understand the entire universe is made up of trinities that are consistently embedded in each other in a fractal way. And they, and they do pan out into other numbers and shapes and forms. But everything has this triplicate nature. And a lot of those ancient religions and things are all founded on that same truth actually, of the trinary consciousness.

[Alex Ferrari]

So do you think that these, these masters, these, these living masters, walking masters, ascended masters, avatars who had walked the earth at one point, were able to re. Engage that third helix to the point where they've become enlightened. The Buddha, Jesus, these kind of yogis, enlightened yogis. I just love to hear your thoughts on that.

[Richard Rudd]

I think there's some, there's some truth in that. I think, I think there's a sort of residue of that third helix, that third, you know, that third strand. I, I wonder sometimes whether when that, you know, whether that's going to re. Evolve for us. I, I suspect it is in order that we can rethread our connection to the divine actually in the physical form. This was something that Sri Aurobindo spoke a lot about, you know, that we would eventually transcend through the physical form, you know, so we, we'd actually, we're. We approach, you know, re. Approach our divinity, but by climbing through the, you know, not beyond it, but kind of in, deeper into matter. So that's why Gene Keys is sort of based on this prophecy that. That's a. That's a. That's a comic that's coming for us. A mutation in our DNA, you know, because DNA mutates. That's the wonderful thing about it. It mutates. It changes over eons, and sometimes it changes really quickly. In fact, most of the times in our history when, when species have changed, it changes. We change fast, usually because of some event or cataclysm or something.

[Alex Ferrari]

So what. So we've been talking about the Gene Keys a lot. What is the, what are the Gene Keys?

[Richard Rudd]

Well, they're. They are a way of kind of tracking and mapping the codes of consciousness, you know, that we live in. And, and there. So there are fundamental. There are kind of fundamental set of patterns based on the number 64, which is coincidentally, if you believe in that stuff, the. The number of codons we have in our DNA that we're made up of. And it's also, you know, the heart of many natural systems, you know, that we see around us, you know, this 64 fold matrix. And it's even the reason that we can talk together right now, because 64 bit matrix hidden in these, in these screens that we're working out of. So it enables us to consistently travel through the. Through the cosmos. So it's a code. And the Chinese really track those codes well in, in their early evolution, like 5, 6000 years ago in the form of the I Ching. And so I did some very deep contemplations of that I Ching. I used human design as well, which also picked up a lot of that, some of those threads, ancient threads, and wove them into a new tapestry.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Richard Rudd]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Richard Rudd]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[Ryan Seacrest]

What.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Richard Rudd]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Richard Rudd]

And eventually that became the Gene Keys, a system of tracking where you know who you are, what your purpose is, using. You know, some of. I borrowed some of the. Some of the beautiful things of human design because I'd studied with its founder, Rau, and. And I kind of started to reshape my own kind of understandings that was rooted in my experience, my spiritual experience. So I. I rethreaded a synthesis, and that's what the Gene Keys is. It allows us to understand our own nature better. And beginning with our shadows, really. So it's a map of our shadow patterns and how we can transform them into gifts and eventually into transcendent states. So it's a kind of. It's a. It's a cosmic code of consciousness, and you work with it over a long period of time. It's a, you know, it's something to. To contemplate deeply.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, that's a tough. I mean, that's. Thinking about what you just said is so profound. And I'm just trying to think of, like, man when he decided to put this out into the world. The marketing campaign's rough on this.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, it is, actually.

[Alex Ferrari]

It is extremely. It's Just a long.

[Richard Rudd]

I mean, the elevator pitch.

[Alex Ferrari]

The. I mean the elevator pitch is a good two, three hours. I mean really. And you put this out there. Were you kind of told in your, in your contemplations like this needs to be birthed into the world?

[Richard Rudd]

No, I never really sort of had that feeling of that quite like that. But it was an impulse in me of. It started to grow. I started to see the patterns. It started to form its own system. And then I was the first student, you know, really, so I had to apply it to myself and I needed it as well because I was like this kind of slightly screwed up guy who'd had a big spiritual experience and was trying to make sense of reality. And, and I had all the same problems as anyone else, probably more. And, and I. And so I thought, well, I'm going to. I'm going to use this to kind of make myself feel better so like, understand my relationships and learn, you know, to heal some of the traumas that I collected from my childhood and, and also kind of heal my relationship to money or, you know, because we all have these, these patterns, these shadow patterns in us, things in our health and things that plague us. And, and so it became like a really good tool for me to kind of find peace in my life again. Because it might sound like, you know, it's great to have a hit of peace, but then you're back to normal. And that is. Right. That's even worse because you now know.

[Alex Ferrari]

What, now you know what peace is like. Yeah. Is it better to love in law, to lose loss or never to love at all? It's very very. It's very similar.

[Richard Rudd]

Purgatory. Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

It's exactly it. So it's like at least you. If you have. Yeah. If many of us who have not had massive spiritual experiences just live along our life. But when you have had that kind of. In that kind of experience, you know that exists and it's difficult to process the real world after that.

[Richard Rudd]

Walking.

[Alex Ferrari]

Walk it through it now. You're talking about the shadow patterns and healing traumas. What is, I mean, what did, what does this system do? Like, did you like. Let's say I have a trauma from a childhood, whatever that might be, with money, with relationships, whatever that might be. How. What is an example of what the gen keys could do?

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, well, there's a lot of ways to approach the gen keys because of the synthesis. It's got a lot of different windows to come in through and they're very different. Some of them the most popular One is through the Gene Keys profile. So we created a profiler and over the last sort of 20 years and that's based on your time, date, place and birth. So it has some astrological components but it's very different from astrology because it gives you a profile. So anyone listening to this, they can go and go to gene keys.com now and get your free profile and look at it and, and you'll get a sense of okay, this is a journey here because what you have is, you have these, these stages or spheres that represent different aspects of your life like your life purpose, you know, and, and your kind of, what you're here to do and you know, your kind of some of the things, some of the aspects of your, your, you know, relationships, early relationships that kind of are embedded in you, your soul's quality, all those things. And there's a gene key for each one of these. So that of the 64 keys you get different aspects according to the time, place you were born. So you can look and see, well, oh, I have gene key 29 here, you know, because they're 64 and they all have different meanings. And Genki 29, it's shadow, it has three levels. They all have three levels. A shadow gift and the, the city. A city isn't like a, a transcendent aspect. So GT 29 is the shadow of half heartedness, right? And it's like, so there's a part of, if you have that key somewhere specific, there's a part of you that when you don't commit to something fully and you won't because it's there, it just falls apart all the time. So maybe relationships like you have a real issue with commitment, you know, so you, or maybe your job and you can't stay with it because you, you're doing something that you, that doesn't really turn you on. And so that shadow is a part of you that's too afraid to probably do the thing that you really want to do until you realize. So half heartedness then becomes a great lesson. It's great. And every Gene Key is a lesson for all of us actually. So anytime you're doing something in your life in a half hearted fashion is destined to fail. Simple as that. So if you're in a relationship that you're not really, you're kind of there because you're just like, you know, killing time, it's not going to be fulfilling and it's just not going to fulfill you. It's going to fall apart at some point. So why Be there. And then the gift is commitment, right? So in half heartedness is the gift of commitment. So it teaches you about commitment. And then the siddhi is devotion. So those are three levels. So devotion is when you've, you know, you've, you've gone through the journey of commitment and you've come out the other side into this place where your heart is fully opened and it's suddenly you, you know, the whole notion of doing anything in a committed way is, that's all you know. You know, so half heartedness is, is a thing of the past. So that's an example of how someone might apply a gene key to aspects of their life. And it's a contemplative journey. So it's not a kind of therapy therapy, but it's therapeutic and you kind of, you learn it yourself. So these are journeys, you know, I've created a series of journeys that people can go on with their profiles, contemplating their keys so that it's like what you're doing is you're beginning to unpick the reasons why things are the way they are in your life. So it's quite profound.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, it sounds, it sounds amazing. It sounds extremely profound. My question to you is what is the, I hate to use the word science, but what is the energy behind these, these knowings? Because like the I Ching or the horoscopes or astrology, there's something connected. So if it's looking at astrology, it's the placements of the, of the, the planets and the stars have certain amount of energy and pull and certain time periods in the cycle of, of everything. What is that kind of thing for this? Because it just sounds so profound. Like I would ask you, like, what is it for the I Ching? Like I Ching is also something extremely profound. What is the kind of, where is that base come from?

[Richard Rudd]

Well, it's more, it's like going back to the experience I had. Like, and when you're in that state of timelessness, you realize how everything is connected to everything else. And you realize that not only is space kind of geometric and fractal and repeat and holographic. So in other words, there are patterns everywhere within patterns within patterns within patterns. And that's all you see from that higher state of consciousness. All you see is the perfection of the pattern. But then it doesn't just bleed into space, it also bleeds into time. Right. And that's kind of a hard one for the human brain, especially the scientific brain, because when time starts to break down and you start to see fractal patterns in time. You get to see, wow, there's, there are cycles where things happen for reasons that we don't understand until later, but they're connected to something that happened before, which is connected to something that's going to happen later. And there's a perfect timing to everything, you know, and everything is connected to everything else in this fractal kind of time space continuum. So when you look at a specific moment in time, you're looking at a very specific pattern, universal pattern. And if you know how to read that pattern, you're getting a glimpse into what's behind the matrix, you know.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases?

[Dan Morgan]

The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar. And we're not afra afraid to go that extra mile for our clients.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys?

[Dan Morgan]

We don't bluff. We take it to trial. And we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.

[Alex Ferrari]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Richard Rudd]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's Large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople do for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Richard Rudd]

The working. The underpinning of consciousness of reality, which is what astrologers used, you know, were trained to do in the old, old, old days. And still some of them can do it. But it's, it's different. You know, using the I Ching is different because you're looking at the fundamental pattern of 64. So you're really looking into the fractal nature of reality and its crystalline kind of makeup. And if you know how to read it, which is quite simple actually, you can kind of extrapolate all kinds of truths. You could actually read the future, you know, if you. If you really wanted to in the.

[Alex Ferrari]

Future based on current path of trajectory. The trajectory of the current path which could be adjusted based on human choice or humanity's choice.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, to an extent. I mean, there's. There's. There's a level of, you know, that's a big question. But there's a level of. At the highest level of consciousness, there's a level of choicelessness. There's a level of predestination. But when we come down into these forms, we get. We are given the. This sounds really hard. We're given the illusion of choice. And it is act from the highest level. It's illusion because when you're at that highest level, there's. There's no one to choose.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's.

[Richard Rudd]

That you don't exist. There's just the pattern unfolding in its perfection. Right, but that would be boring unless you, Unless you could. Unless you forgot. No, you had to come down and forget.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, and I understand what you're saying. And for, you know, and if, If I may throw my translation in or how I see what you just said because, because it could. People listen like, I have choice. What is he talking about? Like, no, wait a minute. The game that we're all in, the simulation that we're all in, there are rules to these. This game, okay? So the rules of this game is you have free choice. And you too truly have a choice to do whatever you want down here. And also, to a level extent, as you go higher into the other realms after you pass, there's also choice of, I want to go back down. I don't want to go back down. But the higher you go, the less that even makes sense anymore because you just are. You just be the moment that you're in. So it doesn't make. So it's the equivalent of me making Mario go left in Super Mario Brothers instead of right. It's an illusion, I'm controlling it, but it's a kind of illusion of choice.

[Richard Rudd]

It's true. Decisions, decisions happen, you know, it's like, do you know what I mean? It's like they aren't actually made. No, they, they happen. They are acausal in that sense. At the highest level. It's really hard for humans to fathom that. And there's a lot of science now kind of going towards this, which is really interesting, you know, and, and you're right, it is a simulation. And that 64 fold matrix is kind of like the motherboard of the simulation. So that's why if you know how to view, to understand the simulation and it's actually not hard. And that's why I, I kind of create these programs so people can figure it out for themselves. Because it's our intuition that helps us understand, you know, our reality and understand these shadows and how to transform them, you know, because that's what it's all about really. Unless, because all the philosophy is great, but unless we can actually, unless I can help someone transform their patterns, their shadow so that they have a, a nicer simulation, I'm not really interested. It's like, you know, so I want to help people.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely. No, absolutely. I think we both do. That's why we do what we do.

[Richard Rudd]

Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

So when, when you were in your spiritual high, we'll call it, when you were in your late 20s, that, that little hit of, of bliss that you got for those three days. Yeah, I'm, I'm fascinated, I'm fascinated with the idea of our hardware. Our brain is very limited. It's, it's, it's, it's not even two bit, it's not even eight bit. You know, we're talking about 64 bit. It's, it's like not even eight bit. We're not, it's, it's Pong. It's Pong. And, and the universe is, is basically where Halo is now. Let's just say that difference, it's probably much bigger. But that difference. When you were in your spiritual awakening, it seems to me that you left the 8 bit or less 2 bit world and, and were able to connect to the 64 bit world because you kind of were not using this hardware and you were using another mainframe or patch directly into the Internet where the hardware is not really relevant as much because you can hook up to the Internet with a slow processor or a fast Processor, but the information is there and how you download it, it's really up to bandwidth. Does that, any of that, what I just said makes sense?

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, I love it. It's really great. I mean, in jinkies, as I said, like we have, you know, because you people are interested, they can get. The Genki's book is a big, huge book. Took me seven years to write with all where I go through the 64. The 64 archetypes, right? And there are 64 Siddhis, right? And that's a Sanskrit word, siddhi, right? And it means transcendent, you know, reality. And they are embedded in our body, right? So we have superpowers in here, all right? And they're, you know, and there are 64 of them, right? And you'll have certain ones that are just dormant and you might in your life, if you are lucky, if, if you believe in luck, you'll have. You might have a flash of one that just goes off, one of these, one of these little places inside your DNA just sparks and then you have a sense of wow, the pos. It might be a. It might be a burst of universal cosmic love, you know, unconditional love or something like that that just happens. It might, you know, this brings you to tears. It might be a complete silence where all thoughts cease spontaneously. You know, there are lots of different layers to the cities, to these, but they're built into us. So they are. You're right. There is a way with that. We can access the mainframe. And it is inside us. And it's part of the. It's the journey of the gene keys. It's. It's really for the future, the gene keys, the knowledge, because it's to take us into the next stage of our evolution where these dormant kind of superpowers can start to come online and we start to inhabit that universal body, that universal mind, you know, because there's a new. A new kind of human coming. And we need, you know, and this, this is going to require a mutation of us, of inside us, in our DNA, in our species, species wide. I mean, it sounds quite wild, but it has happened in the past that we've mutated. You know, we, we were, we were Neanderthal. Then it mutated, it became a CRO Magnon. It. We've mutated and animals mutate all the time. So life is built, DNA is built to mutate and to change and to evolve. So what my question with the gene keys is, what's the next human being look like? What's the future human being look like. And that's. That's definitely written in my book. That's definitely written. You know, you're invited to contemplate that. What are you. What is the highest. You look like. So when you look at your profile, you'll see the shadow words, but you'll also see these city words. You'll see these. You'll see words like ecstasy. You'll see words like, you know, rebirth. You'll see words like harmony. These are. These are states of consciousness that are embedded inside you as a living potential. What would. What would it be like to live only in harmony? Everything in your life in harmony.

[Alex Ferrari]

Obviously, Marvel has already told us what the next stage of evolution is, and it's the X Men, obviously. I'll take Wolverine's powers. I don't know what you would like, but.

[Richard Rudd]

It was really that lucky one, you know.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, yeah, okay, there's. Yeah. Oh, what's her name? Domino. Yeah, Domino. She's always.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, that's. That. That's, for me, is the ultimate superpower.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, you're absolutely right. Domino's a domino. Mixed with Wolverine. Would be fantastic. If we could do that. That would be fantastic.

[Richard Rudd]

An interesting looking creature, someone who could.

[Alex Ferrari]

Completely regenerate and really much not die. And has luck all the time.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And if you happen to mess with it, it has giant unbreakable claws just in case something has to go down. No, when you were saying that sometimes, if you're lucky, that little spark, you see a glimpse of the. Of that city, that power that's inside of you. It brought me to a story that Wayne Dyer said years, years ago when he was alive, he's like, he was meditating one day and all of a sudden he started to levitate. And if you've studied any of the yogic traditions, that's something very common with yogis. He goes, but the second he was levitating, his brain's like, oh, this is cool. I can do this in the Tonight Show. And the second he said that, he fell back to the ground and never was able to do it again. He disconnected completely with it. But that was the first time that was the only thing came to my mind when you said that. I was like, oh, that must have been a glimpse of his superpower. It's just one of those things.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, it was one of the funny things. As I was sort of exploring this revelation that had come to me and I was realizing, oh, there's these 64 cities and that was the word I ch.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be Right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases?

[Dan Morgan]

The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Our insurance companies, like actually afraid of you guys.

[Dan Morgan]

We don't bluff. We take it to trial. And we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.

[Richard Rudd]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24 7, 365.

[Richard Rudd]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Richard Rudd]

And then I remember because Google, it's like way back, right? And the Internet was still quite young. But I googled 64 cities and I re and I found that there is a tradition in India of 64 cities. And I was like, wow, isn't that cool? You know, that they, they tracked us, you know, for thousands and thousands of years. They knew that the, this matrix was hidden inside us, you know, so the super, you know, those X men, all of that. That's kind of in a way, preparing our minds for what's to come in some way.

[Alex Ferrari]

So I have to. Okay, so now you just opened up a whole can of worms because now you're working into my world of story and movies and books and things.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

The idea of this next evolution of humanity, which goes along with what we talk about on the show a lot, which is this great shift in consciousness, the great shift in humanity, and you can all kind of see that in the last 150 years, our consciousness has grown exponentially over the last. We've grew more in the last 150 years than we grew in the last 3,000 or 5,000, you know, really. So it's. There's a ramping up of this mutation in our consciousness, if you will. But when you just said, like these movies, these ideas, these stories are preparing us for what's coming, I would 110% agree with you. Because if you start thinking about H.G. wells and you saw when his. Before him, there was no idea the science fiction world wasn't anything like it was. Or Frankenstein with my Riley and all these stories that prepared us for the space age, that prepared us for the Industrial Revolution, these ideas. Then movies like Star Wars. I mean, how many astronauts and astrophysicists were born because of Star wars and Star Trek? I was talking to a NASA rocket scientist the other day, as you do on the show, and she was telling me how much her colleagues absolutely adore Star Trek. Like, it's, it's rampant throughout all of the quantum physicists and rocket scientists. They all have seen Star Trek. Star Trek more so for the scientific side, the more. The more kind of mystic sci fi world, the more mystic you go towards Star wars. Because of the Force, because.

[Richard Rudd]

Right, right.

[Alex Ferrari]

But, but with Star Trek was very scientific, very grounded. But even then they were doing things that make no sense, and yet it prepared us for what's coming. So a lot of these stories in these movies, even like what's going on with Marvel, with the multiverse that just showed up. Parallel realities that just showed up. Quantum realm that just showed up. These are all Marvel ideas, you know, from their comic books. And now people understand what the quantum realm is. They understand what parallel realities are. They understand what the multiverse is. That was really picky sci fi stuff.

[Richard Rudd]

Back in the day. Absolutely. I mean, I was watching this thing on Netflix, Sense8. I don't know if you've seen that.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Richard Rudd]

Oh, yeah. That's like networked intelligence. Right. And that's the next Stage of the future human is networked intelligence, you know, so that, so that we begin. That's, that's the next phase at the quantum level, where these different fractal groupings come together and discover a. A genius that is shared, you know, at another level of consciousness. Because. Because the ultimate one is when we're all a networked intelligence. We're all one network, which we are. But it's going to take us a little while to get there. So it's going to begin with smaller groupings and then it will expand. And that's. I, I described this in, in Gen 55, which is the kind of big mutative gene key that came and, and, and contains the prophecy at the heart of gene keys, you know, which is about this future human. And. Yeah. So. Yeah. So it's fun now.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know who wrote Sense? You know, who's the creators of Sense? Eight is right.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah. It's a woman, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

No, it's the, it was the.

[Richard Rudd]

Oh, it's the blood. It's the word. It's the wish out of the Washowski.

[Alex Ferrari]

The Wasowskis are for everybody who doesn't know the creators of the Matrix.

[Richard Rudd]

Matrix.

[Alex Ferrari]

So. Which is also one of the most profound films that have prepared us for the idea of simulation theory. That this is all a game. Before then, it was deep in philosophical ideas or Vedic traditions, or even deep in the quantum, Quantum physics world. But now everyone understands, like, oh, yeah, we. And it wasn't. It just, just. Wasn't it just a year or two ago that the Nobel Prize went to some quantum physicists who proved that we are in a simulation?

[Richard Rudd]

I think mathematically there's a lot of it. Yeah. Now, it's, it's an incredible thing. And the Buddhists have been saying it for years. The higher, but the high Buddhist teachings, that's exactly what they teach Maya.

[Alex Ferrari]

Maya. It's like Maya.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah. Even Christ, you know, said in, you know, my father's house has many mansions. I love that quote, you know, which is like all these different dimensions, you know, that exist.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's such a beautiful quote. It is such a beautiful quote. And then, and then jumping into parallel realities and how we can. There's quantum jumping now. I mean, we can go down so many different roads. Richard. So, so, so where we are right now.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Where do you see us going in the next 20 years? 50 years? Your lifetime? My lifetime. You know, what do you see humanity doing? Because we're moving at such a clip. I mean, from the, the birth of the Internet was little over 25 years ago, really, you know, with bought broadband. I mean the real, like the, the popular birth of the Internet, mid mid 90s. So mid to early 90s. So it's been 25, 30 years and look how far. I mean we've got AI now. Where do you see this going in the next 50 years for this mutation in ourselves?

[Richard Rudd]

Well, I may not see exactly the same as everyone else, but I, you know, I went in, I kind of saw this in it back in my heightened state of consciousness. I, I kind of wanted to know why this time, why now, why me seeing this? And it was framed in the context of this time. And you know, sometimes when you look at the future, you kind of, you assume it's going to be based on the patterns of the past. That's a natural thing to do. So you kind of look at us, you go AI and then we're going to get to Mars and then we're going to do there and you know, and you kind of, that's how the mind thinks in a linear form. But during times of mutation, you know, linear, linearity breaks down. It has to, so there has to be. In order for a quantum leap to occur, like a new mutation in human DNA, it requires a huge shock, actually. It requires a massive, it requires very, very difficult conditions in order, you know, and a lot of heat and a lot of, you know, usually some kind of trauma in order for that to kind of, that shift to occur. It's like birth, right? Birth is not an easy thing. And I'm a man, so I have no idea. But you know, I can, I've, I delivered my own child, you know, and so I kind of, I have a sense of your front row seats or.

[Alex Ferrari]

You had front row seats.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, exactly. Thank. But so birth is not easy. And so I, what I envisage happening is a kind of, not that we're going to go off on this nice trajectory, you know, but that actually what's happening now to the planet is with all the systems beginning to break down and collapse and you know, and the ecosystems also, you know, beginning to give way, that we're going to kind of hit a crisis and, and as a species and it's not going to be nice and comfortable, but we'll move through it and we will come out the other side and we'll come out the other side completely different and many. And you know, I don't, I, I don't, I don't know what it looks like, but I imagine we'll bring some of our technology with us. But I think a lot of it, a lot of it is going to be slightly back to simplicity, you know, because when things start to really sort of fall apart because we've built a world that is not sustainable and our practices are not sustainable. And despite our best efforts of kind of heroic people, it's still the mass consciousness doesn't have enough intelligence, actually, I would say, to kind of make a kind of a fix, put it like that, because we have to go through these changes, so we have to go through these crises, these births. And I think that's what's coming for us. But through the Gene keys, especially gene key 55, which I describe a lot in my work and in the book, you can see you get a focus on what's the other side look like. And it's really important to have that hope, more than hope, that certainty that this is meant to be this way for a reason. Even though it's not going to be easy, we're going to come out the other side completely different. And that's why in gen keys, my symbol is the Dragonfly.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases?

[Dan Morgan]

The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys?

[Dan Morgan]

We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.

[Richard Rudd]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Richard Rudd]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Richard Rudd]

And I talk about the story of the dragonfly and how, how a dragonfly is a bit similar to the caterpillar and the butterfly, but in a way more dramatic because the dragonfly lives as a larvae underwater for two or three years where it's a predator and, and then it kind of comes up suddenly. It comes up a stalk of grass out into the light and it starts to mutate and change. And within the space of a few, three, two or three hours, it's become an ins, a beautiful iridescent creature of the air. And that is like an extreme, and it happens really fast. And that's a beautiful allegory of our, of what's inside us. We have a dragon inside our genome. We have an incredible iridescent, multi dimensional, you know, higher being hidden inside us. But it's got to go through this process of leaving its old environment, you know, where it's predatorial and it's got to take this huge risk and come up into the air and into the light and then it's going to go, it's going to shake its old life off and something completely of another dimension is going to emerge. And that's. So it's hard for us to imagine that the vastness of the change. But that's, that is what I kind of feel we're heading towards.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I don't know about you, but I think the, the greatest moments of growth for me in my life have been the most difficult. Those are the ones when you're, when you're, when you're, what is that honed by fire. Essentially you walk through the fire and you're hardened by the fire. Not by my, not by the butterflies, not by the fluffy clouds. No, no, no, the fire. And it's not pleasant. So on an individual level we all do that and that's what kind of makes us who we are. That's the shrapnel that we take you know, that we, that we walk around with, but I think also the planet and humanity itself, these old systems, as you say, are breaking down and we can see those systems breaking down around us. It happened at a smaller extent in the Industrial revolution where like from the horse and car, the horse and buggy to the car that was. But these institutions are much larger and some older institutions like religion, religious institutions, political institutions, monetary, economic institutions, medical, I mean all of them are, you could just see the cracks and people are just starting to like this is not working anymore. And you could see it in the numbers of people going to the movies. You can see it in people watching the news. Those numbers are all going down. And you, and you notice that those institutions are becoming more desperate, they're becoming more outlandish with their ads or with their things to get you to click. No, no, no, no, don't go away. Here, look, look, look, someone just died. Come here, come here. Like it's a, it's constant but people are starting to pull away from that. So you're absolutely, you're absolutely right that we're going to be going through some, through some stuff and I think you're right. I think that all of us are going to go through something pretty dramatic probably within the next decade. I think something is going to happen and I don't know what that is, but you could just see it around us. Look. I mean Iran shooting missiles at Israel and we got the Ukraine war and we got this year's election here in the States and elections around the world. I mean it's insane.

[Richard Rudd]

Our world is so fragile. You know, the world we, systems we have built are interdependent on each other. It doesn't take much for a whole thing to collapse, really doesn't.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh no, you just need a power outage and you understand how fragile you are. Just one power outage. You lose power to your house. It's basically a useless box other than to keep the weather out and maybe keep some of the heat or cold in. Yeah, it's an, It's. Nothing works.

[Richard Rudd]

You can't. A lot of the, I think a lot of the planet will be, will, you know, will become uninhabitable for a while, you know. And you know, so that's going to cause a lot of migration and that's going to cause even more war and conflict and I mean that sounds, sounds grizzly but actually I'm an incredible optimist, more than an optimist because I had that download thing where I experienced the future human and so I know it's a fact in my DNA. I know it as a cellular certainty. And that's why I started to teach around it and create a body of teaching so that other people could remember the same knowing and it would hold us. So that's my goal really. The gene keys to remind us and hold us through the change so that we know that we're heading towards something beautiful and that give us hope in dark times.

[Alex Ferrari]

Richard, I have to imagine that you've been doing this for a few years now. So I imagine at one point or another someone raised their hand and said this is absolute bs, this is malarkey. This is who. What do you say to skeptics about this? Because I'm sure someone listening right now, I'm like, these guys are out of their minds. What would you say to that? First of all, if they're still listening, why are you listening? You're obviously curious, so what's going on? But what would you say to something who's skeptical about all of them, of what we're talking about?

[Richard Rudd]

What would I say? I'd say, you know, I, I don't know what I'd say. I'd say, why are you still here?

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, why are you watching this?

[Richard Rudd]

Go watch something else. My all time favorite. Because you know, I used to look at my reviews on Amazon of my, for my books and stuff. You know, in the early days when you brought our book. When you first bring out a book and you're like curious and, and you're really upset when you get a first bad review. And my favorite all time review. I can't believe I'm saying this on with you because it just was two words and it gave one star and it just said baffling crap.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well actually that's, that's a fantastic sentence. You gotta give it to that AKA it packs a punch.

[Richard Rudd]

It, it really I, it was just beautiful and I would, and I, and I really wanted to have a dialogue with that person because I just, I, I respect that kind of view. Actually. I understand that it must seem crazy, but I think once you've had some awakened experience of some form, everything begins to change inside you. And you know, you can't explain that to someone who hasn't had a glimpse themselves. You just can't. There's, there's, there's, there's, it's a, there's. How are you going to get across that divide?

[Alex Ferrari]

It's kind of like trying to explain to somebody like you know, the first, your first love, if You've never loved anyone, and. And you. You're trying to explain to somebody about love. You sound like a maniac. You sound like. You sound insane. Well, there's this thing, and they're like, no. Like, you just really can't even comprehend it. So you're right. And I think that once you do, you know, just from my own, you know, for lack of a better word, awakening that I've had, things look different to me, patterns start to appear. Like, I've spoken to Robert Grant so many times on the show, and we've had a lot of personal conversations about it and seeing patterns and how they interconnect with other things. And the goal of what I do is because I want to see the whole elephant. Most people just focus on the tail or the foot or the trunk or the ear. But I'm trying to connect all the points to get to the same truth. And the thing I keep seeing again, again and again is that everything you've talked about align with some of the great yogis I've spoken to on the show. Spiritual masters, quantum physicists. All of this all connects. And that's what's fascinating. I haven't heard one person really come on and just go so off left field, like, no, no, no. Our DNA is actually made of cheese. And, like, I haven't heard that yet.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, yeah. You know what's beautiful about the image of the elephant, like, where you're looking at, you know. You know, because you're talking about that, you know, you only see one person, only sees one part of it.

[Alex Ferrari]

And, yeah, the Indian, you.

[Richard Rudd]

If you dive deeply into anything enough, so even if you only look into the trunk of the elephant, but you look deep into the trunk and deep into the microscopic genome in that trunk, you'll actually see the whole elephant in that. That tiny fragment. It's, like, wild.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's. It's so beautiful.

[Richard Rudd]

If you.

[Alex Ferrari]

If I may quote the. The Matrix, one of my favorite movies of all time, and the scene where Neo is walking in to see the oracle and is in the waiting room with the little, like, Buddhist child, and he's bending the spoon with his mind.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And he's like, how do you bend the spoon? He's like, first you must believe that the spoon is not there. But. But when you understand the truth that there is no spoon.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's so profound. It's so. In an action. In a Hollywood action movie which would never get made today.

[Richard Rudd]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely. So, so, so profound. Richard, what are some of the. You know, we've talked about the genki so much. What is some of the biggest challenges people have with using them? Like, there's obstacles of, like not being able to connect with the material or, or the ideas.

[Richard Rudd]

Well, I think it's, it's at the beginning. You know, Chinese have a, have a saying difficulty at the beginning. And it's natural, you know, because you come in and it seems a bit overwhelming and the concepts like, you have to get your head around. So what I say to people, I say this is not knowledge, so don't come towards it. Like you'd go towards knowledge, which is what you learned at school, what we all learned at school. Knowledge. Knowledge is something that's put into you and this is not something that's being put into you. This is something that's here to access wisdom. And wisdom is already inside you. If wisdom has to come out, it has to be catalyzed or triggered or awakened.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases?

[Dan Morgan]

The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Are insurance companies, like, actually afraid of you guys?

[Dan Morgan]

We don't bluff. We take it to trial. And we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large Verdicts.

[Richard Rudd]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Richard Rudd]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Richard Rudd]

So the Gene Keys, that only purpose is for you to go towards it gently and be patient and then use the art of contemplation. And then it starts to awaken inside you. It starts to trigger your own wisdom recognition. And so it's a very different way of moving towards something because you don't grow, you can't grasp with your ego mind, you know, you have to just allow and let it, it's a bit more of a romance, you know, so you come in gently and you cut when you come in and you let it, you let it percolate and you let you savor it. You don't, you know, if you're, if you get lost, that's okay. But we're always saying in, in Gene Keys because we do a lot of online retreats which are really popular and ways of connecting with each other and following the teachings and got a couple on right now with sort of thousands of people in them. And, and what we say to people is that, God, I haven't been able to do the thing, I'm left behind. And we're saying like, no, no, you can't be left behind. You're just where you are. Like you're a bit, you. There is no left behind. There's just the pace at which you're moving and that's natural to you. And so, so just trust in that pace. And that's why I teach, you know, this art of contemplation. It's, it's a, a, it's a slow. You want to get wisdom, it takes time. You want knowledge, you can get it quickly. You know, it's fast food. Wisdom is slow, slow burn, you know, because it's inside. But when it comes out, it awakens something inside you. You know, it. So it is a process of revelation. It is a process of awakening. And that's what jinkies is all about really. So that's what overcomes that first, like trepidation of like, oh my God, there's too much. I don't understand, you know, it's like, just calm down. It's okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, it's kind of like, you know where you're going in for that first kiss. With that first kiss, you're like, if you go in hot. Yeah, it's not gonna go in. You go in aggressive and hot, which is basically your ego mind going in and going, ah, that's.

[Richard Rudd]

Whoa.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, no, that's not. That does not work. Any young. Any young men think or women listening.

[Richard Rudd]

You're miss time that you're going to.

[Alex Ferrari]

Miss time that you're going to bump heads. The nose is going to hit. It's not a good thing. But I love the idea of the romance because it is something slow and you're feeling for it. You're not thinking because when you think you're over, you're done. You're done. It's when you feel that moment. And using the analogy of the first kiss, you feel when it's right. The other person is signaling when it's right. And it's, it's this slow process when you finally go in and kind of wrote. That's the term. Romancing it. Romancing it out of.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Of inside of you.

[Richard Rudd]

It's why I use poetic language a lot because I'm a bit of a poet myself. So I, I use in all my books and writings a poetic language frame because it's that, that's what it, you know, it's, it's not poetry, but it's just it. It's more about the sound and the kind of that sense of like, just enjoy the language. Just let it in. Like birdsong, you know, you don't analyze birdsong. You just let it in and then it starts to kind of find its way in into your mind and into your emotions and into your body. And over a period of time, you actually start to have these little mini awakenings or these insights or these breakthroughs, sometimes I call them epiphanies, you know, and that's how you enter into the jinkies teachings. It's the same way that the same thing that happened to me. I had an epiphany. And so that's, that's the way I know of arriving at truth. And you go in gently and you, it's you. You allow it to seduce you. Yeah, so it's, it's a soft. It's a soft approach, as you said.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very, very, very soft approach. I wanted to ask you one thing about the gene keys, frequency and vibration. What does that play in these ideas of the mutating gene the evol. The kind of evolving of consciousness through or connecting to wisdom. What does that have to do with frequency and vibration, if anything?

[Richard Rudd]

Well, yeah, it's the foundation of the. The whole language of the gene keys is called the spectrum of consciousness, you know, which are these words that are. That arranged in these layers, these three layers. Shadows, gifts, cities. And it's, it's some, it's a, it's a way, it's a way of organizing the, the quantum world through language. And so they are bands of frequency. So a shadow frequency. You know, if you've, if you track your shadow frequency, it always keeps you in victim loops. So you can look at the gene keys that relate to your, your shadow patterns. It might be, you know, reaction. Let's say you have reaction, the shadow of reaction. And that reaction keeps you in a loop because you're reacting emotionally through that kind of old memory of panic or fear or anger. And that's a level of frequency. And it just keeps you in, in the shadow frequency and it draws other shadow frequencies towards you. So it creates, you know, entanglements and relationships with the same energy. As you start to transform those, those shadows and they become gifts and they become creativity in your life because that's what happens. You become incredibly creative. Then suddenly you're. The vista opens up and you realize you've, you've shifted frequency. You know, DNA is operating at a different level of frequency, so it's emitting different light signature. And that attracts different like signature signatures. It attracts. Diff it not so much. It attracts other people operating at the same level, you know, so it attracts easier relationships, more beneficial relationships, people who are successful in some way or fulfilled. And then your whole kind of your whole work, your whole world begins to shift. And then the highest level, I guess the city level is, you know, it's where you start to draw in like teachers, really embodied teachers or teachings that enable you to access and embody more of those higher heightened frequencies, like really high frequencies in your life. And then you begin to kind of. Those high frequencies begin to guide you from inside you. And they connect you to a much broader destiny. Adama, you know, that is sort of your highest purpose, you know, so I think we have levels of purpose, you know, and to live your highest purpose, which is the purpose of the gene keys, to help you. That's the name on the front of my book, you know. You know, embracing your higher purpose in life. And it's not, you know, because there's these layers of purpose. So you could you can have a kind of a lower purpose, a middle purpose, and a higher purpose if you like. And, and you want to be in that high one, if possible, you want to be moving towards that one. So opening up this language of frequency starts to entrain you, starts to change the way you think about yourself, the way you see yourself. You start to see yourself as one of those X men, you know, or ex women. You start to see yourself as filled with potential instead of trapped in some kind of victim loop that, that you think you can't get out of, you believe you can't get out of. So it changes the fundamental nature of your reality through doing the deep contemplative work that's. Does that make sense?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, it makes all the sense in the, in the world. And it completely connects to everything else I've learned from the masters I've spoken to as in regard. You're essentially talking about a version of the Law of Attraction in a very basic, basic way. And I hate to use the Law of Attraction since it's been so bastardized over the years, but that idea of we create a reality, that's an old concept from the Vedic times that we create our reality and you're just kind of breaking down how you do that. So with thoughts and things like that. But once you did, you start attracting the correct.

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, vibration. The thing with it is you, you have to do the shadow work. That's why the Law of Attraction sometimes doesn't work for people, because you can't. It's not enough to just have a nice thought pattern. You actually have to go into some uncomfortable, uncharted areas of your psyche and do some serious mining in there and transformation. And then after years of that, the Law of Attraction starts to kind of really open up inside you. But you can't bypass that inner work, you know, And I think you see that a lot in the, you know, in the new age kind of stuff that people are bypassing that work and, and sort of, you know, so, so it doesn't, it can't really operate, you know. I call it the Law of Unseen Grace, which is, which is what the Law of Attraction is built on. So it's, it's, it's deeper in a way. And unseen grace is where you don't realize that you already have right now everything exactly as you need it. That's unseen grace. So the moment you harvest, like, oh, wow. So this shit relationship that I can't is actually perfect for teaching me exactly what I need to transcend is the perfect teaching you know, and, and it's, it's trying to show you something. It's trying to lead you on a transformational journey so that you can change, you know, your frequency. But you've got to go into the very thing that you're, you want to avoid in order to get to the prize. I, I, I, I love that. That's kind of Shakespearean as far as I'm concerned.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the, the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Alex Ferrari]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24 7. 365.

[Richard Rudd]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com or an office near you you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. Now, Richard, I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

[Richard Rudd]

Well, I think it's something connected to simplicity. It's something very connected to being in the body, being embodied. And the love of the body and the love of. The love of the form, so the love of the things of the world, you know, it's not necessarily all about transcendence. Even everything I've said, it's about the love of each step along the ladders of frequency. You know, fulfillment is. Is. Is here now. It's not in the future, you know, so it's. It's all around us. So we have to. Have to. We have to harvest it in a contemplate. That's why contemplation is a beautiful art, because it helps us harvest that fulfillment, that beauty that is around us all the time. And contemplation also slows us down. It's a little bit different from meditation. It's more. Whole system, you know, so you do it when you're awake, when you're walking, when you're moving. It's a way of life. And it might include meditation as well, or mindfulness, but it's. It's an approach that allows us to harvest the beauty that's around us. So I think that's. That's the foundation of fulfillment for me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now, if you had a chance to go into a DeLorean and go back in time, what advice would you give Little Richard? Not the musical star, you. You, sir.

[Richard Rudd]

Sure, that's okay. I've already given it to him. I've said, you know, I would say, look, the two things that I've learned, right, that are most precious, two words, and they're really one, gentleness and patience, you know, gentleness with yourself, you know, so that and patience with yourself. Because it. You know, all the places where you hurt or you feel stressed, though, or the wounded parts of yourself, that's what they most need is you to be gentle with yourself and patient with yourself so that you can heal on this journey. And those two qualities are like. They may sound soft, but they're like. They're the most intense discipline, you know, to be gentle with yourself so that you don't, you know, you. You don't judge yourself too harshly, you know, to soften, to open your heart again. That's like. That's an amazing thing to be able to do. And it goes with patience, you know, because patience means you don't push. You don't. You know, even if you. Even if you're impatient, you can be patient with your impatience. It's like, it's, it's. You just take. You just learn to be easy with yourself, and then things happen quicker, you know, your growth happens quicker.

[Alex Ferrari]

How do you define God or source?

[Richard Rudd]

I guess, you know, I bring it all back to love, really. I bring it back to love. That's like the. The Sufis have an old way, an old equation. You know, it's the. The lover, the beloved, and love. And those three. That's the equation. Like the beloved, the beloved, the lover, and love. Love is the thing that connects us, and this creation is the beloved. We're the lover. But you can also spin it however you want. You're also love. And, you know, everything is about being a lover, you know, for me, like, at every level. So I'd say that that is as close to God as anyone can ever get, is being a lover.

[Alex Ferrari]

And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

[Richard Rudd]

I had a. I had a regression once. I'm going to answer that quickly. And she took me back to the beginning of things, and I was right back at that point. I said, the birth of my soul, you know, and she said, well, what. And when you came in, what was your purpose and all? When I heard that, I started to laugh and I laughed and I laughed and I laughed. And then she started to laugh, you know, and she was. And we both were just laughing and laughing because that was the answer for me. It was like the purpose. You can't ask that question because the answer is laughter.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's amazing.

[Richard Rudd]

That's amazing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Richard, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing with the Gene Keys?

[Richard Rudd]

Yeah, they can easily come to genekeys.com and there's all kinds of stuff there. And also my YouTube channel has a lot of good free stuff. Gene Keys again. And one beautiful thing, it's a free app. It's a contemplation app that we created called the Triple Flame. And it's free and it's on the App Store. And it's really fun, I think. Yeah, I think you'd enjoy it, actually, Alex. It's. It's got lots of meditations and things on it for me that are really, you know, short and long and all kinds of things. But it's. It bings you every three hours for three minutes, and it gives you a pause. It asks you to pause for three minutes every three hours on the 3, 6, 9, 12 O'. Clock, and it also tells you how many other people are pausing using that. And so it's. It's the beginning of a pausing community around the world of people who are pausing to contemplate. And it's really beautiful because it slows you down. It makes you a more poetic, contemplative person. It reminds you that that's who you are. So it's, it's a kind of lovely thing and it's a nice way to kind of get in touch with some of my other stuff because there's a lot on the app that's just free.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's been such a pleasure talking to you, my friend. It's. I know we can go down many more rabbit holes and we, and we will absolutely do that in the future. So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken our planet and to turn us into X Men. So I appreciate you.

[Richard Rudd]

Thanks, Alex. It's a pleasure for me, too. Really lovely to meet you.

[Alex Ferrari]

Want to thank Richard so much for coming on the show and sharing his knowledge with all of us. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes at next levelsoul.com forward/4,5,5 now. If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on Next Level, Soul TV's app where Soul meets streaming. Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Roku, Android TV, Fire TV, LG and Samsung apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your Awakening at next LevelSoul TV. Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.

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[Dan Morgan]

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[Dan Morgan Interviewer]

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