BONUS MONDAYS: What She Saw Before She Was Born Will Leave You SPEECHLESS! with Diane Brandon

Summary

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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode: BONUS MONDAYS: What She Saw Before She Was Born Will Leave You SPEECHLESS!
Guest: Diane Brandon
Date: September 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this thought-provoking episode, host Alex Ferrari sits down with Diane Brandon, author and spiritual counselor, known for her research and personal experience as a "born aware" individual—someone who retains conscious memories from before and during birth. The conversation explores the seldom-discussed realm of pre-birth memories, the soul’s journey, intuition, the nature of the divine, and the cosmic drama of human existence. Together, they unpack how these mysterious experiences can shape one’s purpose and perspective on life, weaving Diane’s story with broader research on spiritual consciousness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Born Aware: What Does It Mean?

• Definition: Diane explains the concept she coined, “born aware”, referring to individuals who remember their consciousness and thoughts at the moment of birth and sometimes before (03:41).
  • "I use the term, I coined the term born aware to refer to people who have always remembered what they thought when they were born. I've always remembered what I thought when I was born… I know scientists think that babies are basically blank...I know that that's not true." – Diane (03:46)
• Memories differ in type:
  • Some recall the experience of being born or even the delivery room environment.
  • Others remember pre-birth spiritual states or “being with the divine.”

2. Varieties of Pre-Birth Memories

• Examples from Her Research: Diane recounts others’ memories:
  • Choosing between potential lives or parents before birth (07:09)
  • Being an angel or cosmic worker on the “other side” (07:44)
  • Memories of conception, or being present with divine beings during pre-birth (09:18)
  • "One woman in my book remembers being taken by guides to visit other planets for training. She remembers picking out her father." – Diane (05:43)

3. Diane’s Own Memories of the Divine

• Description of God/The Divine:
  • “This massive energy that at the same time has a sense of a being…You can never mistake the energy for anything else.” – Diane (11:29, 13:46)
  • “It’s not an old man with a long white beard…being in the form limits, and this is beyond limitation.” – Diane (11:29)
• Her core memory is of being with the Divine, feeling safe and whole, but also knowing she had to leave for a purpose—without choice.

4. Birth, Awareness, and Adjusting to Earthly Life

• Double Consciousness: Diane describes feeling “schizophrenic” as a child—simultaneously connected to the higher, spiritual self and learning to navigate human existence (21:07).
  • "When you come here as a soul and you get into the body of a human being, it's like being schizophrenic. You've got your true orientation towards the other side, your true home. And then you've got this human part." – Diane (21:07)
• Loss and Return of Memories:
  • Many “born aware” people don’t know their memories are unusual until adulthood (20:35).

5. Soul Planning & Life's Blueprint

• Soul Blueprint: Both Diane and Alex discuss the possibility that every soul has a blueprint for each incarnation, developed or reviewed with higher beings before birth (41:19).
  • "I’m a firm believer in it...our lives are planned. This does not preclude having free will because it was always known what our choices would be." – Diane (41:19)
• Free Will vs. Destined Events:
  • Even when diverging from the supposed path, it often becomes part of the plan at a higher level (43:22).
  • “Even diverging from what we think the plan is, is part of the plan.” – Diane (43:22)

6. Perspectives on Life’s Challenges

• Shifting Perspective: As we age, our viewpoint on past hardships changes, recognizing them as necessary (33:07).
  • "When we go through something negative and we come out the other side and if we can look back and see some of the benefits, then we have transmuted that negative experience into something positive." – Diane (33:15)

7. Intuition: Nature and Practice

• Sources of Intuition: Diane views intuition as multi-faceted:
  • Derived from unconscious brainwave activity (delta waves).
  • May be “guided” by spiritual sources, but not always—sometimes, it's information sussed out at the deepest unconscious level (52:11).
  • Physical basis for “gut feelings” is now recognized by science (53:30).
• Developing Intuition: Meditation and similar practices can foster deeper access to intuition and higher awareness (40:13, 55:56).
  • “It is a matter of tuning into the right frequency or a part of our sensing, our consciousness that senses being able to get to the right target.” – Diane (57:46)

8. Accessing Universal Knowledge

• Information Fields: Parallels drawn between the Akashic Records, quantum field theory, and the omnipresence of all information (59:40–61:50).
  • "I don't tend to think of it as akashic records because it's information and it's everywhere all at once. We live in this information, we live in it, it is everywhere." – Diane (60:51)

9. Death, Transition, and the Afterlife

• Process Upon Death: The soul transitions by shedding its earthly persona and gaining greater objectivity (67:26, 71:37).
  • "We basically...lose our orientation to the three dimensional. We still have access to it, but our consciousness, our soul is freed up, is no longer bound." – Diane (68:05)
  • Immediate life review and connection with loved ones and higher beings or councils may occur.

10. Psychedelics, Meditation, and Spiritual Experience

• Opening Doors: Diane compares the altered states from psychedelics to the states certain yogis attain naturally after years of training—both can remove perceived barriers temporarily or permanently (62:29–66:59).
  • Importance of preparation and integration is emphasized.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Divine:

  • "The energy is unmistakable. You can never mistake the energy for anything else. So you have this sense of a being and this, this, this massive, massive energy that is beyond description."
    – Diane (13:46)

• On the purpose of born-aware memories:

  • "I feel that for those of us who have these memories, we're allowed to have them because they are to serve a purpose for what we are to do while we're here. It's not like, okay, it's a free ride. There's responsibility in it depending upon what each of us is here to do."
    – Diane (26:36)

• On perspective and life events:

  • "If we can look back and see some of the benefits, then we have transmuted that negative experience into something positive."
    – Diane (33:15)

• On intuition:

  • "There's a physiological basis for gut feelings. They're real. There's a knowing...So there's a base, there's a physiological basis for gut feelings. They are real, science knows this now."
    – Diane (53:30)

• On the complexity of life and the universe:

  • "The complexity, I feel, is beautiful. And we may not be able to grasp it all at once, but we can be in awe of the fact that it exists."
    – Diane (75:03)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:18 – Diane defines "born aware" and discusses what it means to remember pre-birth.
• 07:09 – Varieties of pre-birth experiences shared.
• 11:29 – Details of Diane's own memory of being with the Divine.
• 21:07 – Navigating the double consciousness of spiritual and human experience.
• 41:19 – Discussion of soul blueprints and predestined life paths.
• 52:11 – Exploration of intuition: sources and development.
• 59:40 – Accessing universal knowledge, Akashic records, and the quantum field.
• 67:26 – 74:10 – What happens after death, shedding the earthly persona, and higher soul awareness.
• 75:03 – The wonder and complexity of life and being in awe.
• 77:04 – Diane’s definition of fulfillment.
• 79:05 – Diane describes God and the purpose of life.

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Diane Brandon’s Closing Message

“There is so much more within you. Allow yourself to explore your depths. Embrace your true self, your essence...develop your potential. Sometimes it’s hidden within you. Work on healing and removing any blocks to your fulfillment and allow yourself to live vibrantly and lead a purposeful life.”
– Diane Brandon (82:55)

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Resources

• Diane Brandon’s website: dianebrandon.com

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This episode provides a deep dive into consciousness, the soul’s journey, and how remembering “before we were born” can shape our lives with greater purpose and humility. Through candid storytelling and broad-minded inquiry, Diane and Alex Ferrari invite listeners to consider a reality where spiritual memory, intuition, and destiny are interwoven, and personal growth is intricately tied to the vast cosmic play.

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Transcript

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Welcome to the Next Level Soul Podcast where we ask the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my Soul's mission? We attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests on the planet today. I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, before we dive into today's conversation, I want to invite you to experience something truly transformative. Next Level Soul tv. Our spiritual streaming platform where seekers from around the world can awaken, heal and expand. We've curated a powerful collection of life changing documentaries, deep dive interviews, original series, audiobooks, courses, master classes and live events all focused on conscious, personal transformation, ancient wisdom and the soul's journey, this isn't just content, it's a calling. Whether you're exploring your spiritual gifts, seeking answers from the beyond, or just craving something real in a noisy world, Next Level Soul TV was made just for you. And here's the best part. It's commercial free, available around the world and growing every week with new soul expanding content. So if you're ready to go deeper, head over to next LevelSoul TV and start streaming your awakening. Now, let's begin today's episode. Disclaimer the views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the show, its host or any of the companies they represent. Now today on the show we have Diane Brandon and we're going to be talking about her pre birth experience. And if you don't know what a pre birth experience is, sit back, relax and let's dive in. I'd like to welcome to the show Diane Brandon. How you doing Diane?

[B]

I'm doing fine, Alex. I am so pleased to be with you here today.

[C]

Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm excited to talk to you about your life experience and what you're doing for the world as well. So my first question to you is you. You speak about being born born awake. Can you tell the audience what that actually means?

[B]

I'd be happy to. The phrase is is born aware.

[C]

Excuse me?

[B]

That's okay, that's okay. It's just a different letter, isn't it? One letter difference. I use the term, I coined the term born aware to refer to. Refer to people who have always remembered what they thought when they were born. I've always remembered what I thought when I was born. I know scientists think that babies are basically blank, have blank minds and little awareness. I know that that's not true. I did not know that this was an unusual phenomenon. It never came up in conversation. But basically it refers to those of us who've always remembered what we thought when we were born.

[C]

So what does that exactly mean, remembering what you were before you? Is it rebirth experience essentially like you remember prior to incarnating into this bot, into the body you're currently in and things that happen on the other side prior to that. Is that what you mean?

[B]

That is one type of memory, but it's basically at the moment of birth remembering what your perception was, what your thoughts were for. For myself, I remember what I thought. I remember that I was not happy to be here again. I knew that when I wasn't here I had absolute knowledge and it aggravated me that I couldn't have it while I was here. I have some pre birth memories primarily of being with the divine and I knew I wouldn't have immediacy while I was here. Some people remember who they saw in the delivery room, including those incarnated in Body and sometimes other spirits or entities who may have been there. Some people remember the actual experience of being born and the delivery. There's one person in my book who remembers that forceps were used and it was so painful he felt that he would be tortured or damaged during the delivery. So the types of awareness, the types of memories will vary from one person to the next. And again, that can include some of those prenatal memories. Whether one stayed in the womb throughout gestation or dipped in and out. For some it may be memories on the other side. For example, one woman in my book remembers being taken by guides to visit other planets for training. She remembers picking out her father. So these memories will vary from one person to the next, but it's an awareness at birth that one has always remembered and it tends to be spiritual in nature.

[C]

So, so you have some experience talking to other people who've had pre birth memories. Can you tell me some of other. Some other. Before we get to your pre birth memory, what are some other pre birth memories that you can share?

[B]

I remember one woman shared that she remembered walking along some sort of pathway on the other side and she was given a choice of, I believe she was able to choose between or among two or three options of what she would be in the coming lifetime. That's one type of memory. Another person in my book remembers being an angel on the other side.

[C]

Really? Actually an actual. I didn't know that angels could incarnate.

[B]

I heard apparently, so I didn't theorize about that. I have two people, I'm sorry? I have two people in the book who remember being an angel on the other side. One remembers working in a group of angels and basically in her consciousness would receive a directive from the divine and they would make planets and other cosmic things on the other side. Another person, as I mentioned, remembers being an angel before she came here. And I'm trying to remember the memories now. One, one person in my book remembers that her parents right after she was born disagreed about whether she needed to be covered in the sun on the way home from the hospital. So these, these, these memories will vary. Will vary.

[C]

Now what is the. What memory do you. Or of the people that you've spoken to which have the farthest back memories? Meaning like purely in the spiritual, purely on the other side, constructing their lifetime, choosing their parents, possibly soul blueprint. What do you have any memories of that, your own personal ones or of anyone that you interviewed for your book?

[B]

My memories primarily consist of remembering being with the Divine and that connection being in place it's almost like there is a tether untethered. And how I felt upon being born because I didn't want to come here, but I knew that I had, there was something I was supposed to do, even though I didn't know what it was. And some people remember, one woman remembers the actual conception. She was there with the divine during conception and she describes it and how she reacted. Some people were very aware of other lifetimes upon birth. In the present lifetime, I'm trying to remember now, I should have boned up on people's, people's memories. One woman has a beautiful description of the other side and the wonderful colors, et cetera. And so my sense is some of this, some of the memories of the other side are really on a level that is not three dimensional or tangible, where things are primarily energy, if that makes sense. If that makes sense. And, and where the, those you encounter are the soul energy rather than a physical representation or a physical body. Does that make sense?

[C]

It makes perfect sense. So then, can we dive a little bit deeper into your rebirth memory? You say the divine. It's a very broad term. So can you give us as many details as you can that you can remember of that experience prior to being born?

[B]

My main memory, I think, is fairly simplistic. In that context, it is being with the divine God. And my memory of God, or the divine is not an old man with a long white beard. It's of this massive energy that at the same time has a sense of a being.

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[E]

Hey, how's it going today?

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[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

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[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

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[B]

So I've talked to one other person who remembers being with God and, and we said the same thing. The energy is unmistakable. You can never mistake the energy for anything else. So you have this sense of a being and this, this, this massive, massive energy that is beyond description. I could say something trite like end all, be all, which doesn't quite capture it, but not in a form. Not in a form. And to me, being in the form limits and, and this is beyond limitation. Beyond limitation, but at the same time a being. So not a gender. Not however we want to define a gender. It's beyond that as well. It's very difficult to put some of this into words. And I have felt, especially since I started doing the intuitive work, the intuitive counseling, that if there were a way for, for people who have that direct connection, it is immensely helpful, it's immensely beneficial. It, it doesn't lead to just, okay, dependency and I don't need to think for myself. It's not that whatsoever. It is not dogma. It's. It is not rules, but it is this sense of safety, I guess is one term I could use. And I don't have memories on the other side of being in different places or visiting different places is primarily being with the divine, which, for lack of a better way of putting it for me is kind of an overarching truth in my, in my life.

[C]

Right. Which it's. It sounds like you have this understanding and belief. Not even belief. It's just an understanding. It's a truth like water is wet and ice is cold, that you are part of something larger and you are connected to the divine as we all are, but it's just there and you just understand it to be true. And that gives you a sense of comfort to walk the earth in a different way that many of us are fearful and afraid and disconnected and, you know, angry and all. You can't seem to. It does, at least from the energy that you're giving me right now, it doesn't seem like that's. Not that you don't get angry and not that you don't get upset. Of course, we all do.

[B]

Yes, but.

[C]

But there is an understanding like this is a temporary. You have just an understanding of, of how the system is working. So it helps you walk a little easier on life. Does that make sense?

[B]

It does. At the same time, it makes being here probably just a little more difficult because one knows how wonderful the other side is. And I think also, Alex, I think it contributes to humility because those of us who have a connection like this know that we're not the end all, be all. And we tend to understand that not only are things on this level transitory, but that they're also ultimately for some positive reasons, even if we don't know what they are. But at the same time, you know, I had my human side and, and one downside of having memories like this is it does make it more difficult to, to be on this planet.

[C]

It is the same thing I've heard from so many near death experiencers I've spoken to is that they're like, I just want to go home. I don't, you know, yes. I'm like, this is, oh, God, do I have to be here? Kind of vibe. And not in a. Not in a, you know, a negative thought pattern. But it's just like, I know that there's chocolate cake on the other side of that door. And why am I here with the asparagus?

[B]

The asparagus is good for me.

[C]

Yes, it was. Asparagus tastes. It's wonderful for the. You can't really compete with the chocolate cake, taste wise.

[B]

Absolutely. The chocolate cake tastes so much better. That's a good analogy. That is a good analogy. So I think the point is there are pros and cons to having this awareness and that is, I think it's a wonderful gift for those who have near death experiences. I don't know if you knew of Tom Sawyer, not, not the fictional character.

[C]

No, I do not. I only know. I only know Huck Finn's friend.

[B]

He was, he was. He used to speak back in the 90s. He had. He actually had more than one near death experience, which is not that terribly uncommon. But he changed so dramatically. And we do tend to say, I just want to Go home. But there are pros and cons, blessing and a curse. But I think it's wonderful for those who have near death experiences that are spiritually transformative because it informs one's being so much more, gives, gives one so much of a better understanding of, of things that transcend this three dimensional level and, and are indeed real.

[C]

So as far as pre birth memories are concerned, I assume that you weren't a one or two year old walking around going, I'm tethered to God, so I'm assuming that this memory came in later. When did you, when did this, all this information kind of come rushing back or did you know at a certain level as you were growing up?

[B]

It was always there. It was always, it was always there. But the thing is, Alex, I didn't know it was unusual. As far as I knew, everybody had memories like this. So why do you even mention it? So it was always there.

[C]

But how was it, but how did you process it though? Like as a, as a five year old, you just don't know. I mean, did you know it was God? Did you know it was the divine?

[B]

Yes, oh yes.

[C]

On a deep level you understood it?

[B]

Oh yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yes. From the, from the very, very beginning, from, from birth. But what I have seen in, in working on my book Born Aware is that it doesn't matter how spiritually aware you are at birth. When you come here as a soul and you get into the body of a human being, it's like being schizophrenic. It's like you're on two in two different places. Because the human experience is very different. You have a psyche, you have emotions, you have experiences while you're growing up. And some of those are positive and some of those are negative. So you've got two types of awarenesses. You've got your true orientation towards the other side, your true home. And then you've got this human part. And I think for some of us, for some people, some memories may start to fade a little bit. We're trying to fit into this world. You know, as a human being, you're born and your parents are in control and that can be positive and negative. You have experiences along the way. For some people it's traumatic experiences or abuse. So for a while, again in interviewing people, there is this shift towards the focus being on trying to fit in, you know, learning the ins and outs of being a human. And it seems that at some point in the teen years perhaps. I don't, I don't want to say that one has mastered. We don't master be to human. We may.

[C]

First of all, no one masters anything in their teen years. Let's just put it that straight up.

[B]

It's true. That is so true.

[C]

I'm joking. I'm joking.

[B]

Thank you for the levity. Thank you, teenagers.

[C]

As a general statement, not the place. If I. If I may stop for a second. I just heard this quote the other day and it was just so brilliant. It was Mark Twain who said, At 15, I understood my parents were clueless and understood nothing. But at 22, I was really impressed at how much they had learned in seven years even.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes. Which I think is a wonderful quotation. It's a wonderful quotation, but I think it is based on the people I've interviewed. It's sometime during the teen years and it may be between 13 and 18 that, you know, you're used to that human side now and you can put more of your attention back on your spiritual side.

[C]

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[E]

Hey, how's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call 247 365.

[D]

Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[C]

And now back to the show. You start connecting.

[B]

It's, it's interesting.

[C]

I see, I see that because when you're growing up, you're just trying to, you're just bumping around, trying to learn how to walk. Your body starts to change. So you're dealing with puberty and hormones and all sorts of things at that age. And you're. But then once you start getting past that, you go, you settle in for the ride, essentially.

[B]

Absolutely. Not that we stop growing because there's, there's all, there's always growth. But yeah, you, you settle in for the ride and you have more of your psychic capacity that can focus on your inherent spiritual orientation.

[C]

So let me ask you this. Why do you believe you specifically were given this blessing or curse, depending on how you look at it, and so many of us do not have this ability.

[B]

That's a wonderful question. I did chew on that. Alex and I feel that for those of us who have these memories, we're allowed to have them because they are to serve a purpose for what we are to do while we're here. It's not like, okay, it's a free ride. There's responsibility in it depending upon what each of us is here to do. And I didn't understand, I can understand better now. When I was born, when I remembered that, you know, okay, I had to be here because there was something I was supposed to do, I thought it had to do with acting and singing. And so I pursued that for years. And it wasn't until I started doing this work, but especially since I started, since the Born Aware phenomenon came to the forefront, did I realize, oh, that's it. Because I need to get this information out there because it can be beneficial to other people. So I can't. I go, I get it now. I get it now. I still don't want to be here, but I can see it a little better. So I really feel it's not because we're special. It's because we were allowed to have these memories because of what we're supposed to do while we're here.

[C]

Now, you mentioned that when you or some other, I'm not sure if it was you or one of the stories of somebody else who had a pre birth experience that you were upset when you showed up. You're just like Ah, what I gotta learn again and I can't. I don't have all knowledge that I had before. Why do you think that? You said that? You were kind of forced to come back. So my question is, you were. Are you compelled to come back to reincarnate? Do you have a choice in the matter? Can you stay on the other side and chillax with the divine? Or are you forced back to learn these fairly difficult, you know, lessons and journeys down here in the physical? Because this is not for the faint of heart down here.

[B]

No, it's not. No, it's not. I think it varies from one person to the next because some people in my book actually looked forward to coming here. And I'm like, you're kidding. Some remember that they were given a choice. I was not given a choice. It was like, this is what you need to do. And I was like, okay, don't like it, but I understand that I'm supposed to do it. I know that sounds strange. I think as humans, especially in the past so many decades, we're really big on what I want. What I want, I can have. I can have what I want. I can manifest what I want. It's all up to me. I want, I want, I want. It's what I want. I think on higher levels, you realize when you're on. On those levels on the other side, okay, I'm not in charge. And. And we are. In fact, this is one of my things. I don't know, you know, if people agree with it or not, but I feel that while we're here, we're all playing roles in this greater drama on.

[C]

This planet, as Shakespeare said.

[B]

Absolutely. I feel that Shakespeare was plugged in. I really do. Oh, yeah, yeah. And. And that the goal, I feel that we come to Earth to live human lives, to learn and grow and unfold. We've all heard that over and over again. But also for the roles we play with other people in this greater drama. And I feel that the goal is to push humanity forward. So that's just my sense.

[C]

Yeah. And a lot of times, sometimes the role we play the villain, and sometimes we play the hero, and we choose to do so.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

In somebody else's drama. Like, you know, you are the villain in someone else's drama, though. Every villain, you know, I come from, again, from Hollywood, every villain always believes that they're the hero of their own story. Of course, throughout the history, I mean, I always wondered, I'm like, how can, like, Darth Vader show go to sleep at night, you know, and just go, I'm so evil. Like, no. He's like, no, I. That's my. My perspective is different. And I have. My life experience has brought me to where I am, and this is how I'm doing things. And I don't care if I hurt other people. So there's just a lot. There's this perspective.

[B]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And it has to do with perspective because as humans, we tend to see things from our perspective. And that's another aspect of one thing I discuss in the book, is what I call the difference between the perspective on the human level and what I refer to as a higher soul awareness which transcends the human and can look at things very objectively, can look at that drama going on and have a sense when something happens on the world stage. Oh, I wonder if this is to accomplish such and such. So there's a difference. And yes, it comes down to. To. To perspective.

[C]

And isn't it amazing? And I could only assume this has happened to you in your life, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that our perspective on our past events changes over time, where at the moment it's happening. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life. To thank God that happened to me when that happened to me, because it did this, this, this, and this for me. And. And this, this. But that's perspective. That is distance. That is time.

[B]

Yes, I got.

[C]

Thank God I didn't date that girl or thank God I didn't get that job. But at the moment, you're like, oh, my God, my life is over. I didn't get the job I was dreaming of.

[B]

Oh, yes, yes, the dark night of the soul. My life is over. This is so painful. I will never get through this. And yet I. I think there has to be a willingness. There has to be something in us that. That represents a willingness to look at things in retrospect. I like to say that when we go through something negative and we come out the other side and if we can look back and see some of the benefits, then we have transmuted that negative experience into something positive. If, on the other hand, we stay stuck in the oh, poor me, oh, it's so painful, then that's not good for us.

[C]

And you want to talk about dark night of the soul? Doesn't that happen, like, hourly when you're a teenager?

[B]

Absolutely. Absolutely. It happened all the time. And of course, it was dramatic. Nobody's ever been through anything like this.

[C]

Before in the history of mankind or humanity. It's Never, ever happened.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You look back at stuff that happened when you were a kid and you're just like, at the time, it just thought it was the world, the world was ending. Like, I got an F in that test. This is going on my quote unquote permanent record.

[B]

I didn't, I didn't get what I wanted for Christmas.

[C]

Oh, my God. Why didn't I get the GI Joe I wanted? Oh, I just got.

[B]

Oh, that boy doesn't like me.

[C]

That boy said what about me? Like, it's. And we joke about. I'm bringing this up to joke around it, but it's really to put perspective into what we hold dear at certain times in our lives. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[A]

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[E]

Hey. How's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[B]

What?

[D]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24. 7 365.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[C]

And now back to the show. And as, as you get older, you start to. I mean, if you're evolving in this life, you start to realize that certain things are not things you should be sweating about as much as when you were younger. In going through things, you just hold on tight to these. These events. As you start looking back, you just start going, I'm so glad it all worked out the way it did. And isn't it true, though, like, as you look back, you start to pleat the pieces together like you. Like you were. You wanted to be an actress in. In music, in the arts, and you thought that was the path. But then you look back and go, oh, that was just preparing me for this work. All those experiences prepared me for this very similar thing happened to me. Very. I mean, I. I mean, it's exact. Almost exactly, really. My art was writing and filmmaking, and it. You know, it always preparing me to do the work I'm doing right now. In all honesty, it is something that has connected me to that. But I always wondered, why am I. Why am I going down that path if I'm not getting to where I want to be? What am I doing wrong? Why do I keep failing? Or the successes I have and aren't the successes that I really want, or these. All these kind of thought patterns? And I always. I even said to God one day, I'm like, why would you give me the love of this so hard and yet not let me succeed at it at a. At even a basic level.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

And.

[B]

Or thinking back on the opportunities that seemed like they would be a major breakthrough, and then for various reasons, they just. Poof. Exactly. But I think. I think what we're talking about, Alex, is it requires getting older and having that perspective of being able to look back. We're less able to do that when we're teens or, you know, in our 20s. We have that. That blessing of more time, if age can be a blessing. But I. I used to be caught up in the same thing, Alex. It really, really resonates.

[C]

Oh, no. Yeah. You and I know a lot of people listening out there right now might be like, why is what I really want to do not happening for me? And if you understand that there's a bigger picture at play here, there's a bigger plan at play that will unfold in its time.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Then you will only see in time why you're walking this path. But you have to kind of trust the path you're walking. If you're going through something difficult in your life right now, there is a reason for it. If you're Going through some wonderful things going on right now. There's a reason for it and that, that that process is difficult for the ego to deal with.

[B]

It's very, very difficult. But at the same time, I would also add that I would recommend trying to develop those inner resources that help you gain that perspective. Because a lot of people don't want to be told, well, it's for your own good that that didn't happen.

[C]

Eat the asparagus.

[B]

Hear that at the time.

[C]

Eat the asparagus.

[B]

You can't have the asparagus. Yes, yes, yes. And you will like it.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

So if you, if you develop those, those, those inner resources. Meditation. There's so many different modalities these days. Those actually give us, give us more tools to move through life and to gain the perspective.

[C]

Now we, we, I, we've mentioned a couple times about these plans, life's plan and how things are being unfolded along our path and we might not like it as it's unfolding. And many times we don't. Trust me, trust me. I know. I'm sure you do too.

[B]

Yes, I do. I do.

[C]

This concept of a soul blueprint, which has been discussed after I've spoken to a couple of other pre birth experiencers who've talked about, remember, even planning, literally sitting down at a table with a council of other elders or beings to create their soul blueprint. What is your take on the concept of the soul blueprint per incarnation?

[B]

I'm a firm believer in it because the way, the way I look at this and the way I understand this, Alex, is that on this level, on this planet, we have, we have time. We have a past, present and a future. But when you get to a higher levels on the other side, there's no time. So things are planned in advance, not out of controlling souls. This goes back again to the greater drama and all these little pieces fit together. It transcends, I feel, our human ability to understand, but I feel that our lives are planned. This does not preclude having free will because it was always known what our choices would be. Because on those levels there's no time. Does that make sense?

[C]

It does. It does make sense. My grasp on it is that, that there isn't. There is a plan laid out. So it's a probable plan, meaning that there's a probability that you'll walk this path and we will guide you in this path. You're going to be born to these parents in this situation which will start leaning you towards certain places and certain things that will be for your Plan. You at any time have free choice to do whatever you like along the plan. And there are people who, who venture off near my near death experience I've spoken to say I went off so far off that I had to die to walk, to be woken up, to go back on the path that I was supposed to do in this life. And some people just go off like the reservation and completely lose track of what they're supposed to be doing. And sometimes they die and they're like, you gotta start over again. You did, you did nothing that you said. This is not the way this is going.

[B]

What are you thinking?

[C]

What are you thinking? You were supposed to be this. Now you're doing this, you know? And they're like, but I was having so much fun. I'm like, okay, great.

[B]

But now you see what I feel, Alex, is even that is part of the plan. Even diverging from what we think the plan is, is part of the plan. That's why I'm saying it's very different to wrap our human minds around this because all of those little pieces fit together. Because ultimately if you have diverged from your plan and you have a near death experience, you're on a path.

[C]

No, you. There's no question about. It's really interesting. Now we're, this is getting, now we're getting into esoteric kind of conversation.

[B]

No, Isn't it fun?

[C]

It's so much fun because I agree with you that there is that whatever you do in life becomes part of the blueprint, becomes part of the record of what you're doing. So if in this lifetime I'm not supposed to understand addiction, it's not part of what I'm supposed to do in this lifetime. But all of a sudden someone when I was younger led me down a path that I wasn't supposed to be on. And I kept going down that path. Even though I wasn't supposed to do it in this lifetime, I kept doing it for million different reasons. That becomes part of the lessons that I learn in this life. It wasn't what I planned, but it was part of the grander scale of what was going on. But there is still a free choice to kind of flow in this or that. It's a. The amount of planning. Because again, being a director, when I play a movie, I'm exhausted thinking about movies and story plots and actors and sets. And it's in a massive amount of planning.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

Can you imagine doing it for the universe? Yeah.

[B]

Creatures which should give us, which should give us a sense of humility. Because we can't imagine being able to do that.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's beyond.

[C]

It's beyond the level of understanding that I can't even comprehend.

[B]

Well, if you throw in the monkey wrench of alternate.

[E]

Stop it.

[C]

Let's not get into the multiverse and parallel lives and living multiple lives at the same time.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes.

[C]

Because there is no time that, you know, everything has already happened. We're just at the. Please. I've already gone down this road so many times. It makes the head hurt. It makes the head hurt. It makes the head. I've had quantum physicists who I've talked to about this, and they're just like, oh, wonderful. And they're just like, yeah. And then there's. Yeah, technically, you could do this. And yet technically, it's. It's such a ma. This is why I love this show. I would love doing the show because of that. Because it's just an endless conversation. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[A]

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[B]

Hey.

[E]

How's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24, 7 365.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[C]

And now back to the show. This conversation will never end in any. No, because it just, it's all expansive, like the universe is expanding. These kinds of conversations will never get old, get boring because it just now expand and expand and expand. Land, yes, a planet is a planet, you know, but our planet has a very different story than Mars does.

[B]

And yes it does.

[C]

And our solar system has a very different story than other solar system. So it's. Even though they're the same elements, they're.

[B]

Just completely different and just similar, but different.

[C]

And it just keeps going and go. That's why I could have a talk to 40 or 50 near death experiencers. And every single, single one is unique. Every single one has its own lessons. Every single one had to deal with certain things when they came back. Even the, the pre birth experiences that I've had on the show before, very different. The, the effect that had on their lives, how they were closeted in so many ways. You know, which I want to bring you to my next question with you. When did you come out of the spiritual closet or were you of the spiritual closet?

[B]

Well, I think part of this too, Alex, is when I, when I was growing up, you didn't find people, these were not popular topics and so yeah, we didn't really talk about things like that. I remember, oh, I remember when I was probably 12 or 13, I was thinking about successive universes and you know, alternate dimensions, but nobody to talk to about that. When I was an undergrad I found a couple of people. You know, it wasn't until I would say my, my mid to late 20s and there was just a little bit of conversation and then I was in mastermind group, you know, I'm sure people are familiar with those and, and so things started to open up. I remember feeling the first time I attended that, that it was the first time I was really in a group, a room with a group of people interested these things again, I didn't know, still didn't know that my memories made, you know, were unusual and started working with my intuition, still not knowing what I was doing. I felt like I was an imposter, you know. So things were kind of revealed very, very gradually to me. And it was only when I started working on Born Aware that I started to realize it was different because I had not shared my memories with anybody the way the book came about is that in the context of a session, a client mentioned her memories. I said, oh, well, that makes two of us. And then a few months later, in teaching a workshop on intuition, one person, in the context of what she had experienced in one exercise, shared her pre birth memory. And that was when I went, oh, that's three of us. I'm being given a message. I need to, to look at this. And, and so things started to unfold from there. So it was, it was, there were triggers. I would say that there were triggers and of course along the way I'm working on my issues at the same time. So it was a confluence, you know, of different factors.

[C]

Now I know you also speak a lot about intuition.

[B]

Yes. And.

[C]

Can you tell me what you believe intuition is? Is it something guiding us? Is it our spirit guides? Is it the divine? Is it angels? Or what is that gut feeling that we get, that little voice in our head? What is it?

[B]

I think it's, I like to say it's a complex set of phenomena. It's not just one thing. I think we have, I think everybody has the ability. For many people, it's underneath the surface. I feel that a lot of it has to do with brainwaves. Anna Wise's research on brainwaves and delta brain waves, the deepest level, always sussing out the environment unconsciously. I think sometimes intuition comes from deep within us, things we were already exposed to that we had forgotten. I think some of it is guided when we talk about gut feelings. You've probably heard that I don't remember how many years ago, 10, 15 years ago, researchers found a physiological basis for gut feelings. They're real. There's a knowing. Yes, there are cells in the stomach that are similar to those in a part of the brain to the extent that some scientists now refer to the stomach as the little brain or the second brain. And then there's some other research on digestion and that affecting the brain. So there's a base, there's a physiological basis for gut feelings. They are real science, Science knows this now. So I feel like it's a lot of different, it presents itself in a lot of different ways. And yes, some of it is guided. I do not feel that we have to go through, know our guides to, to be intuitive. And when I teach intuition, I teach the method I use, which is basically closing your eyes, going to a deeper, deeper level of consciousness and posing your question and seeing what comes in. And that's trying to access information on demand. But we also get information, excuse Me that we're not deliberately trying to get. And it varies from one person to the next with regard to the form that it comes in. There are many, many different forms of intuition. There's. There's information that comes to you. There is a kinesthetic where you feel energy that gives you information. Some people are clairvoyant, which literally French. I was a French major, clear seeing. Some people hear voices, whether they're external or in their heads. For some people, colors may have meaning and they could get information just with colors they're presented.

[C]

Let me ask you this, because I've seen some research in regards to frequency and that the brain waves, when you go into meditation, you know, the delta, alpha, alpha, delta. And then I think I forgot what's underneath. Delta, Omega, or even something even deeper. Some of the meditators, some of these Tibetan monks, who can go even deeper than what they were that anyone could register before. And even channelers are being connected to these machines. And they. When they channel, you can see their brain waves just change to a whole other place while they're still awake. Is this a frequency thing as well? Just as a universal law that at this rate, at this radio station, this kind of information is available. At this radio station, this kind of information is available.

[B]

I love that question. I feel that brainwaves have something to do with it, that it's important to get to below beta and even alpha, get into theta Delta. And of course, gamma is like a sudden insight. And I have to say that there's a woman in California, Valerie Hunt, who researched brainwaves for years of Intuitives and healers. And she has a book out called Infinite Mind. I think in some cases, it's a matter of getting on the right frequency to get information. So I feel that that has an awful lot to do with it. We talk about resonance, picking up on information that's resonating with us. I think a lot of it does have to do with frequency. The delta brainwaves. Anna Wise's research, she defined. She equated delta brainwaves with the unconscious, with the unconscious being kind of processes, not a repository of information, and that the delta brain waves are only sussing out the environment, you know, to see what information is there. I've had the sense with the method that I use that I call tuning in. That is like a frequency, like tuning into the right frequency. And at the same time, I've always felt that information is energy. Energy carries information. So if you think about it, we are surrounded by information. We're just surround. So sometimes it is a matter of tuning into the right frequency or a part of our sensing our consciousness that senses being able to get to the right target.

[C]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[A]

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[E]

Hey, how's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[C]

And now back to the show.

[B]

Theoretically we should be. That means theoretically we should have access to absolute knowledge while we're here. But then on the other hand, I knew when I was born that I couldn't have that while life's here. But the concept, the theory is that it's all out there.

[C]

Well, you know, it's very interesting. I just had a conversation with a Nobel prize nominee who lives in the quiet who was talking about the akashic records in the quantum field and that we. That is a field thing you're talking about is the. A quantum field that we all are connected to and that we can easily, not easily, but can't kind of tap into. If you can find a way to tune in, meditators are able to do it. People who understand how to read the Akashic records can do it. But the Akashic field, the Akashic records, this is stuff that science is talking about. And obviously this is stuff that the Vedic texts and old ancient texts, Sumerian texts and tablets have been talking about. Akashic forever. So these ideas are not new age woo woo by any stretch.

[B]

No, no, no, no they're not. And I don't tend to think of it as akashic records because it's information and it's everywhere all at once. We live in this information, we live in it, it is everywhere. But I think here on this planet, as humans, things are separated on those other levels. On the other side, there's, there's, there, there's less division. I don't mean in conflict, but less separation.

[C]

It's all, there's no walls, there's no walls disconnecting you from the information. That's again, when I talk to near death experiencers, they say, oh, I was over there and I had an immense download of everything. So I'm like, oh, I understand quantum physics now. Oh, I understand this now. But when they came back, they're not allowed to bring it back with them.

[B]

Yes. Which is so unfair.

[C]

But also to be fair, I just don't think that our, our computer can handle the processing that it would take.

[B]

I agree.

[C]

Our nervous system, our brain, it's not designed to, it's, there's a limitation in the design, very specifically designed that way. So we can't do that.

[B]

Yes. In order to navigate this three dimensional world, we have to give up some things, we have to lose some of those abilities to be able to navigate in here.

[C]

Do you think that because I'm fascinated with psychedelics, I've never taken any myself, but I'm fascinated by the stories, what people see, what people get access to. Do you believe just from your own perspective that when you take a psychedelic or plant medicine that it brings your frequency to a level where you can open doors that have been closed to you very similarly, to do what yogis do naturally, through meditation and through practice, to get through those doors as well, that's why they live there a little longer and the psychedelic is a very limited pass. Inside, inside, inside the ride.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes. And I'm going to preface this and say that I have not taken a psychedelic either. And I Haven't. I've read a little bit, but I haven't heavily researched this. But my sense is that they tend to remove the separations and the barriers.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And they may have a temporary effect in that regard, but at the same time, I'm hearing also some permanent effects. They may help to shift perspective. They may help to see connections and take us out of the box, you know, of our. Of our normal perception. And there are cultures, you know this, Alex. They're cultures that incorporate them and their. Their spiritual practices, traditions.

[C]

Ayahuasca alone down in South America.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

That is an absolute miracle that that exists. Do you know that? Do you know how those. Do you know how they make ayahuasca? No. Two different plants from two different sides of the jungle that have no reason to be together. But someone along the way said, let's take plant A and plant B. And when they're combined, and only when they're combined does ayahuasca. Is ayahuasca created.

[B]

Wonderful.

[C]

It makes no sense. Makes like literally.

[B]

It doesn't have to make sense hundreds.

[C]

Of miles away from each other. They just made. They would have never connected. But somewhere along the line, that information was given to somebody. And it is a very healing process. But we won't get into. We won't go down the psychedelic road because that's a whole other deep, deep con.

[B]

That's been researched. That's been researched too, you know, that's been researched with spiritual, Spiritual applications and, and outcomes.

[C]

Well, yeah. And now because they've kind of lifted the veil on LSD and Silas Ibin and those kind of things that were kind of banned from the 60s because of all the craziness in the 60s, now they're actually researching it again. When I say craziness, I say it with all the love in the world. But now they're actually. Universities are allowed to do it, and it's helping a lot of people. So it's really interesting. Really. Really.

[B]

It is. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. If you can't. If you, if you can't come to those spiritual vistas or. Or experiences any other way, then, then sometimes those are aids. To that end, I, When I spoke.

[C]

To a yogi about this, it's so fascinating. I spoke to a yogi in India about this and he said something so profound. He's like, when people take these medicines and they take these psychedelics, what they're doing is opening a door that they were not invited into. And you must be aware and be careful when you Go into those doors because you might not be prepared for what happens, which is what a bad trip is or these things.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

As a, as opposed to a Yogi who spends 20, 30 years preparing to walk in that door and then, then once they walk in, they could stay there and come and go as they please because they have.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Time and preparation to go on there. As opposed to cheating and kind of sneaking past the guard with psychedelics, which again has its place. But understand there are risks involved when you do it.

[B]

Absolutely. Because you may not know how to assimilate the experience and those insights.

[C]

Oh God.

[B]

One has to be.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

One has to be. Because it can turn one's life upside down just as a near death experience can.

[C]

Yes, exactly. Now, from your point of view and your perspective, what actually happens to us when the physical body dies?

[B]

I have seen, and I'll share that I've been asked by clients over the years to look at those who have passed on. And I think it, a lot of it depends upon the person's life at the time, their experiences, what they were going through. There are some blessedly peaceful transitions, I'm sure. You know, there's been a lot more research into pre death communication before, you know, passed on loved ones visit, etc.

[C]

There's seven stages from my understanding. It's like seven or 12 stages or something along those lines.

[B]

Yeah, but, but the passed on loved ones are trying to reassure the person who's in the process of dying, who will be dying, you know, that, that there is something on the other side. And my sense is we, we basically, excuse me, lose our orientation to the three dimensional. We still have access to it, but our consciousness, our soul is freed up, is no longer bound. And again, I feel like this varies from one person to the next. I mean if it was a traumatic death.

[C]

Oh yeah, of course.

[B]

Or the life had been traumatic, it may not be as easy or as peaceful. And my sense is, yes, we are greeted by loved ones or they help us. And whether we see the divine, my sense is at some point after we transition, we drop what I call the Persona of that lifetime. We will still have access to it in the future. We don't forget that it existed. But we get into what I call our higher soul awareness. And I feel, and this will vary from one person or soul to the next, that in some cases we are actually watching what is going on to loved ones who are still here, I want to say dispassionately, but there's still a feeling of connection and love We've talked about people talk about the life review. I feel like that's instantaneous and I feel like that is connected to dropping the human Persona and getting into the higher soul awareness. Because we can, we start to gain the objectivity.

[C]

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[B]

Hey.

[E]

How's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[D]

Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com an office near you.

[C]

And now back to the show.

[B]

I feel that whether we're guided to do it or whether it happens spontaneously, we start to see from that higher perspective, our lifetime, the people we knew, our interactions, interactions. We start to see the reasons why things happen. We touched upon this earlier and at some point after this, when we are firmly entrenched in the higher soul awareness, we go on to whatever's next for us on the other side. And that can be going to a place of study, be taught. It can be guiding people. There are a number of possibilities. I started working on my next book four years ago and haven't had a chance to get back to it. But it's really about what the other side is like based upon people's memories. And one woman in particular remembers levels on the other side. She remembers being one of those who were guiding and teaching and part of a council. And so for, for some people, we may go to some of those study groups. We may be counseled. And I know there's a lot going on that I'm not even privy to.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It's a. It's. Again, this is an endless conversation. And it's fascinating to. To have these conversations because it just at least opens our eyes to the possibility of what is why we're here, what this is all about, you know, why is, you know, a tree. A tree, and I'm here and this happened to me or that happened to me and what happens on the other side. And to understand that there is another side and that, you know, Aunt Jane is okay, you know, and.

[B]

Absolutely. And, and, and to make it more interesting, I know that after we've transitioned, we also have access to all those other Personas.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

From other lifetimes. Like, it's not like dissociating or being a multiple. But we do have all these other Personas and we are aware of them. We're in the higher soul awareness, but we're aware of them. They don't kind of evaporate.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I think that that makes it more complex and more interesting.

[C]

Oh, the word complex is not. Doesn't even cover what's happening. I mean, the amount of complexity of. The amount of complexity of our human body in itself.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[C]

It is such a complex machine that we still truly don't understand the whole. How the whole mechanism of it, as much as we'd like to believe we do. Then let's not even get into the complexity of the earth, of ecosystems, and let's not even start going off off planet to the universe. I mean, just barely scratching the surface of the complexity of everything that is around us. So it's really. It's one hell of a ride. Let's just put it that way.

[B]

It is. It is. And I want. I want to use the word wonder.

[C]

Oh, the wonder of it all.

[B]

There's so much. Yes. There's so much to be in wonder of. Because the complexity, I feel, is beautiful. And we may not be able to grasp it all at once, but we can be in awe of the fact that it exists.

[C]

And that we in a lifetime will never be able to explore every aspect of everything. It's impossible. I mean, no. Just, just so you know, a master chef in Japan who's a sushi chef, when he clot. When a. A trainee is with him, an apprentice, they work on rice for seven years just cooking rice.

[B]

Wonderful. Seven.

[C]

To understand the complexities and the nuances of rice.

[B]

So, yes, seven years of your life and all the different. All the different varieties and how you.

[C]

Do it and when you do it and the timing and the perfection of it and how you just. Rice before they ever touch a fish. It's all rice.

[B]

I love that.

[C]

So can you imagine the complexity of that level? To a master carpenter or master storyteller or a master artist or a master engineer, it. It's just too much information. But on the other side, we have access to all of it, which is.

[B]

So we do.

[C]

Which is always beautiful.

[B]

We don't get bored.

[C]

No.

[B]

And, and, and it is. I'll use the phrase everybody uses. Positive energy, you know, love, acceptance, support. Positive. It's just, it's great place to be.

[C]

Now, Diane, I'm going to ask you a few questions. I ask all my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

[B]

It's a sense of knowing who you are on a deep level. I use the term our essence. And being able to express that outwardly through activities and enjoying it and feeling positive about what you're doing. And even when there is disappointment or there is struggle to have that perspective, that it's temporary and is happening for a reason, to me, that's fulfillment. To be able to experience positive, not just focusing on. On positive, but to enjoy the complexity of rice, for example, or, you know, of. Of your child's smile or your dog greeting you to. To be able to enjoy that there are things outside of you which all exist for a reason and that you're part of too. So I use a very, very broad definition of fulfillment. And even if you have a somewhat narrow focus, enjoying it, feeling positive about yourself and what you're doing.

[C]

If you had a chance to go on a time machine and go back in time to the little girl that you used to be, what advice would you give her?

[B]

I would probably say hang in there, because it's all happening for a reason. And there are going to be many, many, many bumps in the road. They're going to be disappointments. But it's important that you always remember that it all is happening for a reason. And you will come out the other side. You will find A sense of fulfillment and you will get to go home one day.

[C]

How do you define God?

[B]

God is that massive energy that cannot be contained, that is totally in control and is the master of all. The great director in the sky, the great conductor in the sky. And is. Is approachable, is accessible. It's not just this, this far off concept that has no relation to life on on this level.

[C]

And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

[B]

I think on planet Earth the ultimate purpose of life is to learn, grow and help to move humanity forward. I don't know the purpose of life throughout the cosmos because my understanding is our experience of life is very different on this planet, sure. From and in other life forms, etc. Etc. And I'm a firm believer that we live lives everywhere as different life forms, not just as a human on this planet, but that it has to do with participating in the huge greater drama, not just on this planet in some way and moving things forward. I don't understand it. I don't understand the totality. I can't. But to know that it's all happening for reasons.

[C]

And where can people find out more about you and the work that you're doing?

[B]

Oh, that's easy. My website is dianebrandon.com d I a N E B R A N d o n.com and I have four books out. I used to have a podcast years ago. Stopped doing that several years ago. But my website is probably the best, the best way.

[C]

And do you have a parting message for the audience?

[B]

Us?

[C]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[A]

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[E]

Hey, how's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247-365- wow.

[D]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[C]

And now back to the show.

[B]

I would say that there is so much more within you. Allow yourself to explore your depths. Embrace your true self, your essence. Open up and connect with every other living being outside of you as much as you can comfortably develop your potential. You have a lot of potential. Sometimes it's hidden within you. Work on healing and removing any blocks to your fulfillment and allow yourself to live vibrantly and lead a purposeful life.

[C]

Diane, thank you so much for this conversation and for the work that you're doing in the world to help awaken the planet. So I appreciate you for sharing your story, my dear. Thank you again.

[B]

Thank you so much, Alex. I appreciate you and the work you're doing. It's wonderful. Thank you.

[C]

I want to thank Diane so much for coming on the show and sharing her journey with all of us. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes and at next levelsoul.com forward/291 now. If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on next level Soul TV's app where Soul meets streaming. Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Roku, Android TV, Fire TV, LG and Samsung apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your Awakening at next LevelSoul TV. Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.

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[D]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[E]

Hey, how's it going today?

[D]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[E]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[D]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[E]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[D]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[E]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[D]

Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

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