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BONUS MONDAYS: Woman Dies, Has the MOST PROFOUND Near Death Experience We EVER Heard! (NDE) with Sara Jayne
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In the tapestry of our lives, we sometimes encounter moments that reshape our very essence. On today’s episode, we welcome the remarkable Sara Jayne, a woman whose journey through near-death experiences (NDEs) has profoundly changed her understanding...
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Alex Ferrari
Welcome to the Next Level Soul Podcast where we ask the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my Soul's mission? We attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests on the planet today. I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, before we dive into today's conversation, I want to invite you to experience something truly transformative. Next Level Soul tv. Our spiritual streaming platform where seekers from around the world can awaken, heal and expand. We've curated a powerful collection of life changing documentaries, deep dive interviews, original series, audiobooks, courses, masterclasses and and live events all focused on conscious, personal transformation, ancient wisdom and the soul's journey, this isn't just content, it's a calling. Whether you're exploring your spiritual gifts, seeking answers from the beyond, or just craving something real in a noisy world, Next Level Soul TV was made just for you. And here's the best part. It's commercial free, available around the world and growing every week with new soul expanding content. So if you're ready to go deeper, head over to NextLevelSoul TV and start streaming your awakening. Now, let's begin today's episode Disclaimer the views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of this show, its host or any of the companies they represent. Now today on the show we have one of the most profound near death experience stories I've ever heard. We have in the show Sarah Jane, whose near death experience really kind of shook me to the core. It is so beautiful, it is so profound. And what she was able to do on the other side and what she was able to see on the other side, it is fairly mind blowing. So let's dive in. I'd like to welcome to the show Sarah Jane. How you doing Sarah?
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Sarah Jane
I'm great, thanks Alex. Thank you very much for having me on your show.
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Alex Ferrari
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I am, I'm looking forward to our conversation. You've had a unique experience, to say the least. So before we get into your near death experience, what was your life like before having your near death experience?
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Sarah Jane
Well, I've had two, so it's probably if you'd like me to go back to the first one. Yeah, first one. And probably maybe if I preface all of that with a little bit with my my father had a really prominent role in my second one and maybe when I get to that it will make more sense if I just quickly rewind a little bit. I grew up with my, my family was in a question I've had a lot is was I, am I religious? Was I religious? So I'm going to say my family was a blender of a mother that was religious and a father that was not. He was a cardiologist, very scientific, very medical and his beliefs basically were my beliefs. I followed him around like as a little girl. I can remember just being absolutely captivated by his big heart that he had on his desk as cardiologists do. And my love of the heart informed my life. And I went on to formally train in cardiac imaging and was in working in a busy cardiac lab alongside my father when I had my first nd. I was, I just delivered my second baby and had what in the hours afterwards was bleeding out internally. So we didn't know. I knew because I was experiencing a lot of pain, but I didn't get to the operating theater. I think it was about five hours later and had lost A lot of blood volume. And it was an emergency surgery. And I was, during the surgery, became aware that I was watching a surgery from perspective of above, near the ceiling at the base of the bed to the right above, watching an operation going on. And probably being medically trained, I was more interested in what was going on medically. Looking at the vital signs and looking. Looking at that more than looking at the surgery and what was going on rather than, is that me? I soon became. It's interesting looking. We're only used to looking at ourselves in 2D. We. We never really appreciate what we look like in. From another person's perspective in 3D. Until you are above looking at yourself in 3D. And it's so weird. It's nothing like what you look like, how you think you look like. And maybe that's why it takes a while. But maybe you don't think of being outside of your body, observing yourself ever. Well, I didn't. I certainly didn't. And with medical, medical, family, scientific family, I didn't ever think about existence beyond your last breath ever. And was not even in my conscious thought. I was lights out. That's it. That's what my beliefs were. And so maybe that's why I didn't really think, oh, that's me being operated on. I was listening to what the anesthetist was saying to the surgeon about my blood pressure crashing. And I think that's when I became. Was looking more and realized, oh, that's me, that's me. I'm observing and not being distressed by that at all.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah. What was your feeling? What was the feeling you had with this going on?
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Sarah Jane
It was complete neutrality. It was as if I was training, like to be a surgical training. And you're observing another surgeon doing an operation and you're watching the techniques or you're watching. You're not attached to. I don't know if I should say it like that, but attached to the outcome because it's not. It was like I wasn't distressed. I wasn't. It's weird. I wasn't even. I wasn't giving any thought to that. I. It was more just an observation. Just. That's interesting. That's really interesting. And not even thinking and even watching my ecg, like, flatlining, that didn't even evoke anything of. It was more like it was really just an observation. And then. But I had the expanded aware. So my awareness expanded so that I was aware of my baby in a nursery being cared for by nurses, and I was aware of my Husband out in the hospital corridor, sitting on a blue plastic chair in the corridor on his own, sitting there, staring at the floor with his hands between his legs, just looking down. And I could feel what he was feeling. And my awareness was everywhere and not just focused on. It was my awareness where. Where I could direct it and where I could focus on was where I was, was. But it was also able to be everywhere. And I was aware of my back back in the surgery. I was aware of my presence and essence, of my grandfather. I knew. I knew who it was. I knew what the energy was. I knew it was my grandfather and he was communicating. No, it's not your time. You. You have to go back. And as soon as that was communicated, the I was back. The next thing I'm aware of is I'm in a recovery ward. I'm waking up and back, Back, back in my body.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, my body. Body. So let me ask you. So when you. When you. When you are back in your body, I'm assuming the pain came back and you started getting all the lovely sensations.
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Sarah Jane
Of being human at that point? I was in immense pain prior to the surgery, but I'd had the surgery, so that was gone. And I guess you still having the effects of an anesthetic, so you're not. I was very acutely aware of what had happened. And when the surgeon came into the post of the recovery ward, as they do, to say how it went, you went? Well, he, the surgeon and the anesthetist came in together and I just told them I had observed their conversation, what I'd heard them say, how it all went down, where. Where they were, what they were doing, and they both affirmed my account of the situation.
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Alex Ferrari
What did they say? What did they say?
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Sarah Jane
Well, the anaesthetist and the surgeon both. Both agreed and went. How. How do you know that? Because before things started going south, they'd made a joke about that night before, or, see, I delivered at 1am so. But I'll say the night before, my obstetrician was at a hospital ball, hospital gala ball. And he was dressed as Clark Gable and his wife as Scarlett o'. Hara. And he had turned up to the hospital as Clark Gable and a dashing Clark Gable with. And they were laughing about that and joking about that and how he'd left his Scarlet o' Hara at the ball. And I was aware of all that.
- [12:39]
Alex Ferrari
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Sarah Jane
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- [13:12]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [14:46]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Sarah Jane
And so, yeah, there's no way I, I couldn't have heard that any other way. I mean, I was in labor for our, I was in hospital, sure, a long way from a hospital garden.
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Alex Ferrari
So let me so let me ask you this. How did you deal with this psychologically when the first one happened? Because this is completely had to have thrown your whole faith belief system of what the universe is about upside down. So not only were you dealing with a, you know, having a new baby, dealing with the surgery, but you come back going, wait a minute, there is an afterlife or there's something going on. How did you deal with it?
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Sarah Jane
It's really interesting, Alec. I'm. I was really sick afterwards. I was. I had developed inflammation of the heart two days after, and I had lost all my blood volume, could not have any blood product donated because I had inflammation of the heart. So I couldn't even sit up without passing out. Four months. And I. Because it's interesting, I've asked myself, why didn't I give this more thought? Because I didn't. I. I know. I thought maybe. Maybe people will think I'm crazy if I talk about this. And I think it was a combination of being really sick, having a baby and just getting back into life. And I didn't think about it, and now I think about that and I'm like, wow, how can I shut that down? And I do look at it as like a taster for the second one, because the second one was way more intense, way more an experience.
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Alex Ferrari
So let me. Before we get to the second one, then. So you essentially locked it up in the. In the chest, threw away the key, dumped it into the ocean, and you kind of just like, I'm not even going to deal with that. Because if I say anything, people can think I'm crazy. I can't physically, I can't even deal. Process what's happened to me. I got enough to deal with. And you just kind of shelved it, essentially.
- [17:09]
Sarah Jane
Yeah, it's. And like I said, I can't believe that now because I am naturally curious about everything. Sure. And I. I can't believe it. I look back and think, you have had an experience that now I'm. All I can think about is consciousness. And it's. I'm so profoundly different after the second one that I. I was. I will say it did have an impact in the way that I chair, like, cherished being with my baby and being alive. And it had that sort of impact in that I probably became way more cognizant of, hey, this could end at any moment. Probably. Probably should cherish this. But I didn't take it any further.
- [18:07]
Alex Ferrari
Interesting. All right, so then. So how old were you when this happened?
- [18:10]
Sarah Jane
32. For the first one.
- [18:13]
Alex Ferrari
For the first one. The second one. How many years passed?
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Sarah Jane
So, long story short, I. It was. The second one was. First one was 2002. Second one was 2018. And while past quite a distance. Yeah, distance. Weird concept, but we'll get into that. Time, space, energy, how they interact and how. I have no concept of time now. I find it really hard to reference time. Really hard. I can't Live by time. Now it's so interesting that I used to be working in a lab and dictated by every minute and every appointment with patient times and now I can't do it. I can't do it at all. It was, I had had so in 2010 a little bit before. No, it was 2010 I was diagnosed. I. So I went back to work. I essentially went back to work, worked a really, really, really busy life imaging hearts. That was what I did all day. I spent all day looking into the hearts of others and loved it, absolutely loved. I used to tell my kids I'm a heart detective and I just go around trying to find the baddie and that's how I explained to them what mum did all day. And I worked, as I said, I worked with my father. We had a really beautiful relationship personally, professionally. He was my mentor in life and in cardiac medicine. And I just threw myself back into doing what I love. I started getting sick. I, crazy as it sounds, put it down to getting old. And I wasn't even 40 but I started thinking, oh, when I'm getting old I'm so tired all the time and my joints are aching. I got to the point where I used to get up and run every morning before I went to work and I couldn't even get out of the car after driving to work without my joints just like seizing up and throbbing all day. And so long story short, I was ended up in hospital with cardiac complications in 2010 and that was the beginning. Was diagnosed with a rare life threatening autoimmune disease and a systemic autoimmune disease. So they a systemic disease effects organs mind affected my heart and then my brain and that was a 10 year period of pretty much in hospital, a lot of it trying and failing. Every treatment available at the time and as new ones became available, try trying those but had I guess stroke, heart attack, eight episodes of meningitis and inflammation and heart failure and eventually was started on weekly chemotherapy in hope that that would get me into remission. And I was close to a year into that when it started to fail. And I was in hospital with severe heart failure at that time and I had meningitis and was awaiting approval for a new experimental drug we'd heard about that was available like over in the US and other but wasn't available in Australia and I was stabilized but still really sick and I wanted to go home. I had young children at home and I had spent so much of my time in hospital and there was really nothing else we could do but wait and see if I could have access to this drug. And so I was allowed home. I must be pretty convincing. I don't know how I was all at home, but I was. I don't know, I must be. I don't know how I managed to talk my way out, but I got home and I was pretty much existing breath to breath. I couldn't care for myself. I was in my bed. When you have meningitis, the inflammation in the brain and the light. I couldn't handle light of even a TV or a phone or any sort of light. So I had sunk like really dark, big Hollywood style glasses on and I had no hair because I had chemo. So I had a big scarf wrapped around my head and I was in bed and I've got one photo of that period and I look at it and I just laugh every time because I had no idea what I looked like because you're too sick to care. But my kids, my kids would exist in my room with me, on my bed with me. They would come and crawl up on bed with me and spend time with me in there. And that was the setting for my 2nd ND. I am on the day I woke up knowing I'm can't tell you how, but I woke up knowing that it was going to be my last day. You could say, why didn't I go back to hospital if I knew I was going to decline? But it really was nothing more we could do.
- [24:06]
Alex Ferrari
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [24:10]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [24:33]
Alex Ferrari
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- [24:38]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [26:12]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Sarah Jane
And I wanted to be in my own home. I wanted to be in my own bed and I wanted to be around my own family. I didn't want to be. I lived in a small country town. I didn't want to be hundreds of kilometers away in a city hospital if that was my last day. I just. I didn't. So I, of course, didn't. I. I literally just that, like, just drunk my whole. Everything in, all listening to my children when they came home from school, just listening to them and lying on my bed and just lying there drinking it all in. And I remember that I felt happy to have them near me, but I was 10 years into a really long, hard fight and I. I was barely able. I barely had the energy to breathe, let alone talk, let alone live. I was existing. I had been like that for a year. And I was tired. I was really tired. So they went off to bed. And I remember I told my husband, he came to bed and I said, I'm not going to be here tomorrow. And he said, well, you've thought that before, which we had. I've had many, many times where it's been touch and go. And. And I said, you know, and he said, oh, you're a fighter. You know, you always fight. And I went, yeah, okay, that's. I. I do like, I am a fighter. And I just. He just said, I. I just said, if I deteriorate, you can take me, but I want to stay here. Because he said to me, well, if you really feel like that, we should Go to the hospital. And I. Again, I must be very convincing because I managed to talk him into a pact of if I deteriorate, we'll go, but I would like to stay here. And he went, he watched me. I remember him lying there watching me for a while and listening to me breathing. And he eventually went to sleep and I was aware of. I'd like. I don't know how to explain it as I was aware of my body shutting down. And the best way I've come to explain that is as you would go around the house at night and shut the house down, lock the doors, turn off the lights, switch a light off. That room shut down, that room shut down, and you're just shutting it all down before you go to sleep at night. It was like my body was going around my body shutting it all down. Or I was, but it was shutting down to then. I was really just aware of my energy. And by that I mean my essence. I. That's what I was aware of. I was in a lot of pain with the meningitis and I. The first thing probably I was aware of was the pain dissipated, it dissolved. I. The moments before I felt my essence leave my body and this may feel weird. Don't sound weird. It left through my feet. It's a weird thing to say, but for me, that was how it happened. I. My essence went through my feet. And as with the first nde, I was aware I was at ceiling height looking down at my body. But this time I knew I was looking at my body and again thinking I don't look like that or that doesn't look like me. So I had that awareness and I remember feeling a lot of compassion from that body that I had left. And I was. I wasn't distressed, as I said. As I said the first time, I wasn't distressed. I didn't feel attached. I wasn't. It's weird when I say I was thinking because how can I think? I haven't got a brain. The brain's in that body. And when I say I was looking, well, how can I see? Because I don't have eyes. So I guess I was. As I said, I'm curious. I was curious about my awareness existing and how I was thinking just how I thought in my human jumpsuit, meaning my. How I think, you know, how we all think differently. Some of us have. Are a bit quirky. Some, you know, some of us really have more of a jokey side to us or my, My characteristics or my personality persisted, existed. And I was curious about that like I feel just like I did in my human body. I feel like me. And I also was curious about how I'm looking at my human body. It's there, but I feel like I have a body much the same as when someone has an amputated limb and they describe they feel sense they have that limb, they have phantom pain, they have pain in that limb that no longer exists. It's like having a phantom body. It was like I had a phantom body. So I felt like I had form or shape and I thought oh that's really. I'm existing as pure awareness or pure consciousness. And I feel just like I did as Sarah in that human jumpsuit which was, which was kind of. I didn't have that awareness first time around about I still exist as me. Which is sort of cool, right? We all. It's sort of cool to be still. Still you Right, of course, of course. Yeah. That's how I felt anyway. I was just that awareness. Yeah, just that awareness on me. And I'm existing as me and I exist and I looked down, I was aware of a anti gravity, like a pool, an anti gravity pool through the ceiling. The ceiling no longer existed. And I. I'm going to have to say I was pulled up through the ceiling. But that's my human understanding. And there really was no sense of direction. If I really try and accurately describe it. I had no sense of direction other than I have to say I went up because see in our human minds that's up in our spatial understanding of Earth. I went up and I traveled up and then I was aware of that pulling into a space where there was in the distance. And I would like to say I saw it but I also felt it. I was also became part of it. This most magnificent bright white light that it was like nothing. I wasn't like light here. It was alive and it was dynamic and it was pure love. I have to say it's light. But it was the most beautiful love I've ever experienced. Like love here, but to the power of a million, a billion. Like it was, it was love. And I knew as I got closer that the most. It was unconditional non judgmental love that I. I knew was the source of everything. So I knew I just as I'd woken up with a knowing I'm not going to be here tomorrow. I knew it was the source of all. I knew it was where I came from. I knew it was where I returned to. I knew it was. It felt like I was coming home. It felt like when you go on a really nice holiday and you have a lot of fun and it's really, really great fun and you come home and you go, oh, it's so good to be home and you've got your own bed and your own favorite mug and your own cup of tea and it just feels so good to be home. Even though you've just had a really good holiday. It felt like that. It felt familiar. It just felt familiar. And I was happy to be home. And.
- [36:08]
Alex Ferrari
We'Ll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [36:12]
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- [36:41]
Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway Cough and cold season is coming, so make sure you're prepared and stock up on your family's favorite personal wellness products. Now through October 7th. Shop in store and online for savings on products like Mucinex Kickstart Combo, Zyrtec Allergy Relief Tablets or Liquid Gels Halls Cough Drops and Mucinex Fast day and night so you and your family are armed and ready for the season ahead. Offerings October 7th restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.
- [37:10]
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- [38:14]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [38:18]
Sarah Jane
I knew it was the foundation of everything. I knew it created me. And I. I guess I feel that it's what we all reference, but we use different words depending on our beliefs. We all have a different label for what this light is. It was love and it was source of all, and it was the foundation, like love is the foundation of all consciousness. And I knew that. And so while in this space, of this love dimension, I now refer to it as I went to the love dimension, I became aware of the presence of. Of three beings and they were also familiar. Like meeting, like meeting someone I'd met in preschool or I don't know what you call it in America, preschool, like that you haven't seen them for a very long time and you're now in your 50s or like I am in you. They're familiar. You know them. And that remembering, as you spend more time with them, you sort of remember them more and more. I, I actually don't know how to explain that, but I, I knew them and they knew me. Everything about me and everything was thought. So I'm going to say thought, like conscious thought. I'm existing as consciousness and able to have a conscious thought. Everything I thought was telepathically communicated. And the beings communicated, they were my guides. I. One of them had more prominence, I'm not going to say more importance, but one of them had more prominence energetically. And I knew that to be my master guide who had been with me forever and ever in every incarnation. And they communicated with me. It was sort of like, let's see how that went. Let's just see how that went and was. And that's referencing a life review. And I was to review what my life was. And it's like watching a movie where you're the lead actor, but you're not just watching. So I, I wasn't just watching my life. I was observing, but I was experience, like experiencing it from multiple perspectives. My perspective of me playing the scene and the other, the other person that. Or people that were in that scene and experiencing it as they experienced it. So, and then I was also reviewing it with my guide. So all of those things all at the same time. Experiencing, participating, experiencing it at the other and reviewing the intent, the intent I had in that moment and experiencing what that. The ripple effect that had on another. And if I had, if I had really positive effect or I experienced that how the other experienced it, but if I had affected someone negatively and caused suffering or pain, or I experienced that as they experienced it. And also the ripple effect that that had going out into their reality. Their reality. And like lots of the continuum of that effect. So I. It was like a felt. It was experiencing it as a felt experience of it all. I don't know if that makes sense.
- [42:54]
Alex Ferrari
It makes all the sense in the world. I've done over a hundred of these interviews, so completely makes total sense because I've. I've heard. I've heard what you're going through from multiple different perspectives. To my understanding, that's a life review. And in the life review, you feel the. Who you feel what you felt at the moment of that scene. And you also feel how it affected the other person as well. So you're actually at the exact same time, if you hurt somebody, you feel the hurt. If you're kind to someone, you feel how that person felt when you were kind to them. And it's kind of like. And you don't, you don't go through a whole life like that, but you go through specific scenes, if you will, better using the movie terminology. It's these kind of scenes. When you were looking at your life review, was it like a bunch of screens up on like in the air, Almost like A Minority Report with Tom Cruise, when there's like scenes all over the place and you're kind of moving things around?
- [43:45]
Sarah Jane
It was, it was like that. It was your awareness. So where you direct your awareness is what you are literally focusing in on. It's like the macro and micro and macro. My awareness was being directed to where my guides would have it. So the scene that we would be looking at and examining, or not examining, but reviewing. And what you put your awareness on expands in consciousness. So that it's sort of like you zoom in with a camera, like, I don't know, cameraman. And you can zoom into one thing even though everything else exists around it. Your awareness is like that. Like the camera zooming in on one focal point. And that's. The life review really highlighted awareness in that regards. And also intent. It really highlighted how important your intent is. And I had not given that. I had never given that any thought. What intent am I holding but for this, for this moment, for this interaction, for. For everything. What are my intents and is my intent in this moment to of good, of good for all? Or I didn't. I now understand intent, how important intent is and how it. The big role that it plays in the co creation process of reality. Of the reality. I'm going to. What you're going to walk into anyone will walk into. Your intent is a really powerful tool in that co creation process with consciousness. And that's probably been my big take home of a life review is what you do and your intent in each moment matters. And I think the concept of heaven and hell. Think about if you're reviewing your life and you have predominantly done, thought, said, acted in a way that brought happiness and joy and all the positive good stuff to others, that's what you're going to experience in your life review. That will be the experience over and over again of each scene that might feel like heaven or might be a heaven experience. If on the other hand, you've predominantly caused pain and suffering and that is your experience through every scene as what you've experienced in it as the other that may feel like hell, I think that is my understanding of heaven. And hell is how you're living your life now becomes your heaven or hell because you're going to experience it as what you've done, what you've lived your life as.
- [47:00]
Alex Ferrari
But also from what I understand, it's not as a punishment. No more so as an awareness. There's no judgment, there's no. It's more lack of an awareness. Kind of like you're looking at like a video game character and going I really shouldn't turn left instead of turning right kind of vibe. When you said something, it was really interesting with your guide saying, well, let's see how you did it seems so nonchalant and like we take our lives so seriously as we do because we are down here, we are in it. And I always use the example of a video game. If Mario is running around trying to save the princess. It's really important to Mario not to get squashed by a monster or hit by a flaming arrow or something when you're in the game. But looking at it from this point of view, it's like doesn't have the same feeling.
- [47:51]
Sarah Jane
No.
- [47:51]
Alex Ferrari
Does that make sense?
- [47:52]
Sarah Jane
I. I completely agree. And I was such a serious head. I. I look back now at my life leading up to that and I was so serious all the time and everything really. And the things that mattered didn't matter. And the things that really mattered you didn't put enough of your energy into because you're so busy living this life and being so serious about it all.
- [48:20]
Alex Ferrari
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- [48:49]
Alex Ferrari
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- [50:28]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [50:31]
Sarah Jane
Yeah, no, it's not about judgment. None of it was about judgment. It's just part of your soul evolution, that reviewing process as I'm evolving here that never stops. Everything here holds true. None of it changes. I still am me. I still feel like me. I still think like me. And I'm still. My soul is still evolving and I'm still learning. And it's basically a reviewing and I'm. I'm the only one that could have judgment of me. No one, no other entity or being or God or is judging it. It's me. So that I. I think it's so it consolidates in your soul. Next time Round I'm. My soul will have memory. It will have had a huge impact on me so that I may take a different action next time I come to come and play on earth. And I'm not serious anymore. It actually has changed my perspective so much in circumstances that I would have probably got really upset about or may have toppled me over a little bit in the past. I actually am able to sit back and actually be a little bit like that. Sit back and observe it. And I know that sounds weird, but I sit back and I watch the scene that I've just. That's happening. That's. I watch it and I'm like, it really doesn't matter if I can just turn up as love in this moment. And that may be love for self. If it's a challenging moment. I just. I really now my intent. I always try and be very aware of what's my intent and bring that into each moment. And I look at it and I'm like, is this a biggie? Probably not. I don't really need to get upset. It's going to be okay. It will all work out. And it may look like something that in the past I would have gone, this is horrible. I'm. This is the most horrible thing that could happen. Probably also because I look at it through the lens of the most horrible thing that can happen to you is usually the opportunity for the greatest soul growth and evolution. And what. What I've looked at is you can look back as, oh, that stroke. That's a horrible thing to happen to someone who's 35 to have a stroke. But in truth, it was wonderful because I existed when I had my stroke. My part. My right side of my brain was more. My left side was affected a marriage. And my consciousness was. I was existing sort of like I was out of my body as an awareness without that executive function of the prefrontal cortex of assessing life and planning life. I. It was very different. I couldn't talk, I couldn't walk, I couldn't communicate. My. I was shut down and it took me a long time. I had to learn to talk again. I had. But that helped me cultivate patients and I really needed to cultivate patients. I'm the first person to say I was really impatient, like something needed to happen to patience and that was a really good fast track to it. And also when my father had a stroke, I was able to turn up as the daughter I would have liked to have turned up as. And I would not have been able to do that if I hadn't experienced a stroke myself. To have the patience to take an hour to feed a teaspoon of food or to communicate and know even though he's not talking back to me, he understands what I'm saying, he knows. He knows what I'm saying to him. And so back to that perspective of it could be perceived as suffering. It could be perceived as a really horrible thing to happen. It was a really good thing. It was a great opportunity to develop, obviously, things I needed to develop and to. Throughout my whole illness experience, there's been multiple things that may be looked at as horrible, but now I look at as they weren't. They really weren't. They were opportunities for me to learn, for me to evolve. And I'm great. I actually am grateful. Grateful for it all. Yeah.
- [55:22]
Alex Ferrari
Now, when you. So, so while you're going through the life review, what happens after you've gone through the life review?
- [55:28]
Sarah Jane
Okay, so when that's finished, so the video screens are gone and that's finished. And my master guide and the two other guides, it was if they're essence or presence, I don't want to say diminished, but receded. It was like they receded. And then I was aware of my father's presence, essence. It came more into product, like dominance. And I was so happy. I was so happy to see him. He died when he. He passed about a year earlier at the age of 92. And he'd had dementia for a few years. And I. I'd gone through a lot in that period that I didn't think he was aware of. And even in the last year when he had passed having. That was the year of a year, full year of chemotherapy, and the first thing he communicated was telepathic. It was not spoken words. It was a telepathic, like vibrational communication. And so it was like words but also feelings all being communicated telepathically. And he communicated his love for me and that he knew what I'd been through and that he was proud of my fight. And he beckoned to me as he had when I was a little girl. Like, you put out your hands for a little kid to come to you and said, stary fairy, which is what he called me as a little girl. And it was the. The love that we were sending to one another. It was. It was so. It was just love. It was really lovely to see him again. And he, as he was on earth to me, he was, as my father, he was my mentor. He taught. He was always teaching me. And he sort of like my guides had Said, let's see how this goes or how this went. He was, he went, oh, sort of the communication was along the lines of, hey, look at this, look at this. And he directed his awareness off to the right and to the distance and for me to do the same. And as we, as I did that, I was aware that what I was putting my awareness on was expanding and unfolding infinitely. And he telepathically communicated and I was understood. I don't know how this limited brain under this limited brain can't understand it here, but there I have the capacity of understanding everything. And like, oh, yeah, I know that your awareness co creates with consciousness and it makes it expand and unfold. And that's what he was showing me. And he was like, isn't that cool? Sort of is. Sort of is, right? I was like, yeah, that's sort of. That's really cool. And I think that's really important. When now back in, back in human form, what, what I put my awareness on is going to become my reality. That's what's going to expand in consciousness. And I'm going to co create with consciousness the reality I walk into. And awareness and intention are the tools for that. And we do it every day with what we say and what we do. Our actions, our words, our thoughts. Thoughts, they create. They, they're like the. It's like you've got your blank canvas as a painter and awareness is the paintbrush and your thoughts and your words and your actions are the paint colors. And you get to paint the scene that you're going to step into. And intention supercharges that, supercharges what you're going to create. And I guess that's what I was understanding as I was watching it. And I, I know it's like, how do you explain consciousness expanding? How do you explain what that looks like?
- [60:24]
Alex Ferrari
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- [60:28]
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- [60:57]
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- [61:26]
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- [62:30]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [62:33]
Sarah Jane
And there's really not much of a human equivalent other than I remember watching when I was a little girl watching the Scottish moors and the fog rolling over the Scottish moors, like coming toward, like rolling towards me. And it's sort of like make that in reverse and it rolling the other way and expanding infinitely. That's the sort of, the only way I can expand. Like explain infinite expansion of consciousness as you're watching it unfold in front of you. And so then after that, his presence or dominance seemed to recede again and my guides came more into dominance. And I was told that I was going to have a healing. I was going to go to a healing space. And it was a dome shaped building room and it had an arched doorway. And my guides directed me through it and communicated me to lie down. And as I was saying at the beginning, I had form, like not human body, but I had the sense of form. And I laid down and my master and master guide was at the, at my head and my other guides were at the sides of my arms and there were three other healing beings in that space. That's what I was communicated that they were healing beings and they were at my feet and around my legs. And the healing was for my soul, for what it had been through in my human incarnation. And it was really, really beautiful. Vibrational, like hum. It was a vibrational feeling and sound that traveled through me and it traveled through like. Like a warm gold, a warm liquid gold just passing in. It felt magnificent. Oh my gosh, I could feel that fruit. It was beautiful. It was so beautiful. It's like, I don't know, having. Having a really beautiful massage or something. You never want it to end. Like it's just intoxicating, intoxicated. It was, it was healing. It was just healing. And when that was finished, and I'm not going to reference time is another thing. I can't give a reference to how long sure anything was. Time does not exist in the. That dimension as it exists, as in the context that we frame it. It's. It's not. There's no time reference. And I can talk more about time if you wish. My understanding of. But in the concept of now, like everything is now that we look at it like time, like past, now, future. And how I do, how I explain it now is take that horizontal and make it vertical. And now all time is stacked on top of each other. And the past, the present, the future are all stacked together. Think of it like a, you know, a jukebox in the old movies. And there's a jukebox in the corner and there's all the records lined up. And you go and put your coin, that little arm goes. So think of time like that. So turn the jukebox around vertically and all the records are lined up and your awareness is the arm that goes in and picks the record out and brings it out. And then you can sharpen your awareness. Like I was watching my life review. You can focus in your awareness. So you can focus in your awareness on a track on that record. And that's the reality you're living. That's what you're experiencing. Your awareness is in. So it all exists, everything exists. But you are just watching what your awareness is. This, this life of Alex or Sarah. What, what we are experiencing now is just what our awareness is placed on. It's all that we can perceive at that. That's what's. What is available to us in the human. In the. Once we're in this human jumpsuit and we're limited by our human brain computer. But of course, when you pop out of your body, pure awareness and you're able to be all of it. It's so different. It's different. You're not limited anymore. And I. At the end of my experience, I. Maybe I'll get to that. Where I was showing the time space energy fields.
- [68:27]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
- [68:28]
Sarah Jane
How does that work about it now?
- [68:31]
Alex Ferrari
Sure, go for it.
- [68:32]
Sarah Jane
Okay. So as I was at the end, it was like I was. When I was falling back into my body, it was like I was plugged into conscious. It's like you get a power plug and put it in the wall socket. It was like that. And just downloading everything I'd been a curious, like everything that I had been thinking about or curious about was like downloading past lives. And I know I was curious about time and space and energy and how does all this work and because I don't think about the little things. Right. Think about a big concept. And I was shown. So think about maths. I don't know if when you're at school you have grid paper for maths when you're learning maths and. Sure. So put imprint a grid like on consciousness and it's fluid and dynamic and that grid is moving. That grid are unified fields of time and space and energy all imprinted on consciousness. And then turn it and flip it. Like what we would think of like a black hole. You know how when you watch a black hole and it's curved in and collapsing on itself. So they put the grid that was imprinted on consciousness like that and they had it all collapsing in on itself to demonstrate to me what the unified fields of time and the unified field of space and energy and how they're interwoven and interacting like dynamically and then collapsing in on each other. That's how it was represented to me. And that's the best, that's the best way I can. I'm very limited in how I. But I understood that they are not independent and they are intricately interwoven together as part of consciousness. As we are like we're all. We're all interwoven in. It's like this intricate web. And you can obviously then manipulate with your own awareness. And that's how we're co creating all the time. Not just creating, but co creating with consciousness. And I think that's why I can't do time. I lose track of time all the time now to keep track of anything now I have to have people ring me and say how you're meant to be somewhere. Or I have to have multiple alarms on my phone to get me anywhere at the right time. And I was not like that. Before, I was. I was always on time, 10 minutes early, all the time. Now it's really tricky and I find it hard to talk about time.
- [71:35]
Alex Ferrari
So when did. So what point did you finish your. Your experience after they showed you that? Well, then what?
- [71:44]
Sarah Jane
Well, I. Before that, I. After the healing experience, my father came back into dominance and he said, oh, we've got to go to. We've got to go to. I'll call it like the welcoming party. We've got to go to everyone now. Everyone's waiting. Like, everyone's waiting. Let's go. They're waiting for you. And where he was looking, I watched in the air, could see everyone that I knew and loved in Sarah's existence that had passed were there.
- [72:19]
Alex Ferrari
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- [72:23]
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- [72:52]
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- [73:22]
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- [74:25]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [74:28]
Sarah Jane
And it was like a celebration. The feeling you can say, like, oh, she's coming, she's coming. And as I got there, it was like, like a big reunion. I'd like to say school reunion, but not a lot of people love their school reunion, so I'm not going to compare it to that. But it was like a big party, like the best party you've ever been to. And it was. Everyone was so excited to see me and my lined up. It was my mum's lineage on one side and my father's lineage on the other side. And then beyond that, friends and colleagues and, you know, people that I had loved and meant a lot to me and who had a role in my life, all just sending me love and celebrating my life. And we might think, well, I didn't really do much, hey, I didn't achieve much, I didn't. But celebrating, like, it was the best thing that they'd ever witnessed. It was, it was really. I think now I look at it as if everything celebrated, every, every little thing, all of it, your whole life. And like, we put so much importance and we make it so serious, but it's, it's just you existed, you, you existed and that's being celebrated and everything, your love amplified. And as I was proceeding through this line or people lined up, I wasn't thinking about the life I'd led. I wasn't thinking about anything about my life. And the reason I say this is I got to a point where there was. I like stopped something. It was like an energetic boundary or threshold. And I knew if I step over this threshold and it was like an energetic, obviously it's nothing physical there. I don't get to come, go back. I don't get to go back to that life. And I hadn't been thinking about it, I hadn't been worried about it. And I turned to my father and as soon as I think it, he's there, received it and he looks, he said, yes, he affirmed what I was asking. And, yeah, you've got a choice now. And no choice is right or wrong. If you keep, if you step over this threshold, if you keep going, you don't get to go back, you get to stay here, you're healthy, you have no pain and, or you can go back and you go back to your sick body. You go back to challenges and pain and no choice is wrong. And I instantly then thought of my children. And as soon as I thought of my children I was. If you could yell telepathically, I yelled no. So I don't know that I can. I don't know that you can yell it telepathically, but I did. I, I yelled no. And as soon as I yelled, I started falling. It was like a roller coaster. And I hate roller coasters. I hate anything really fast and then. But it was, it was a fast, not fall or I. I can only say four, but it was like a roller coaster pulling me back. And that's when I felt like I was plugged into consciousness and I was downloading as I was falling back into me, into my body and past lives flashing like flash, flash, flash, flash, flash. Like do you know those books that. I don't know if you had them when you were little and the page would start with one line on it and then as you flipped through it.
- [78:50]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it's a flip book.
- [78:51]
Sarah Jane
Flip book, yeah.
- [78:52]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. A little animation, A little animation started.
- [78:55]
Sarah Jane
Yeah, it was like that with past lives on each page, just flicking through them and quickly observing them. As I was falling back into my body and I was aware of getting back into my body and the only way I can say that is I think I was aware of how am I going to fit. How. Because I was expanded. How am I going to fit back into that? I don't know if I thought how, but I went, that's. I'm not going to get back in. But it felt like really tight. Like I was squeezing into clothes that were five sizes too small and uncomfortable. It was just uncomfortable. And I was aware of how heavy and dense I felt because I'd felt. I wasn't aware of feeling light when I was existing in a non physical form. I wasn't aware that I'm not breathing or that I'm really light or that I'm really expansive. I only became aware of that when I was back in my body of the contrast of how heavy and dense and I've got to breathe and that's. I don't have to worry about that when I'm non physical, but I was. That was aware trying to breathe, like trying to get air into my lungs. And that's what woke my husband up because I was gasping and trying to breathe and he grabbed for my pulse. That's. And I think the only way I can Explain. That is when you're with someone who's really, really sick for a decade and he's medically trained, that would. That's your impulse. Immediately feel for a pulse. And I remember him saying, oh, your pulse is really thready, which means really weak, thin, like. Yeah. And he. He's like, are you okay? Are you okay? And. And so, yeah, And I'm back. I'm back in my body and back in pain. Back in immense pain.
- [81:13]
Alex Ferrari
So after this, after this event, after this experience, I'm assuming you didn't put it away this time. You started to embrace it a little bit more. Can you just tell the audience how you dealt with it when you came back?
- [81:28]
Sarah Jane
It's really interesting, the reintegration period after such an extensive experience. As I said, I've. There are things that I struggle with. I. I didn't tell anyone about it for probably a month. I wanted to. I wanted to sit with it. I. I didn't even know, like, I didn't know the term near death experience. And even that I sort of have issue with because it's not a near death experience. It's not near. It's a death experience. It is a death experience. It's not like, oh, it almost. It's not like I almost happened. It happened. And for me, I. I always say I've had a death experience. I think I knew, just as I knew I was going to not be there the next day. I knew I needed time, I needed to sit with it, I needed to consolidate the. What it was and the insights. And what. How can it inform how we live our life? The wisdom and insights that a death experience, I think, can give us all about. Like, like you were saying, we don't have to be so serious. We're actually here to live a life of joy. We're actually here to do the things that light us up. We're actually here to go, what lights me up? Let's do that. Instead of judging it and going, oh, I can't do that. Everyone will think that's wrong. Just do what you're here to be. I think I journaled it. I wrote it all down. I wrote everything down and I didn't listen. There were. I actually don't even know that there were podcasts like this available back in 2018. I'm not sure 2018.
- [83:27]
Alex Ferrari
I started in 2019. There was a few, but they were few and far between. It is really ramped up in the last four to five years. I've only been doing the show for a little bit over three years. So 2020. So 2021 is when I started. So it was a few years later. Yeah, but there was a few shows, but not a whole lot by any stretch. It was, it's now every now everyone's got a near death experience show and everyone talks about this kind of stuff. But it wasn't around even 2018. It was not very, not very spoken about publicly.
- [84:00]
Ryan Seacrest
No.
- [84:02]
Alex Ferrari
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- [84:06]
Sarah Jane
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- [84:35]
Ryan Seacrest
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Sarah Jane
And I guess that's why I didn't, I didn't tell, I really didn't tell anyone until a really dear friend came over and I said I'd like to share with her what happened. And I sat and told her about it and she said to me that she, she just said, oh, you, you, you're different. Like you're different now. You're just more peaceful and more. And yeah, she just said I, I seemed so much more peaceful and I guess that's a gift of it, right? I feel, yes, like at peace with.
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Alex Ferrari
It all you know, from, from, you know, I have a perspective that you might not have because I've spoken to so many people who've had near death experiences, have had deep conversations with so many people, have a near death experiences. And, and the thing is that you are correct, I would say most of them have a much more peaceful look outlook on life. They look at things very differently than the rest of us. They're kind of aware of the game that we're playing. They've seen behind the curtain. So they don't take things as seriously. The couple that I had that were hellish experiences, there's very few, but they actually had a hellish experience. Came back different, no question. But one of the ones that had a hellish experience, she said I had to go through that because of my own belief system. I believe that this is what I had to go through for my own punishment. But then I was able to come out the other end. They generally always, from my understanding, from my experience at least come out the other end. Something saves them. Jesus shows up, an angel shows up, a light shows up and gets them out of where they are. But to answer your question, yes, they are much more peaceful. The energy that comes off of a near death experience or a death experiencer in your case is very, is very peaceful. General, generally speaking. And they just, their whole life changes to the point where they have, they feel that they have to share their story. If they're at that place in their evolution that they have to share their story, many of them take it to the next level, start teaching, start speaking, writing books. Because it's kind of like this, like I was sent back with this information, I need to get it out to as many people as possible. So I sound familiar?
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Sarah Jane
Yeah. There are two points from what you've just said and the first being what how we're creating our beliefs, what we believe. It's sort of like placebo effect. If you, we're talking about placebo effects and it's not as simple of just saying what you believe is what happens. It's from the human level they're very different placebo effects that happen like from a medical understanding of the. Your, your brain is like a chemistry lab and your beliefs inform what chemicals, you know, what hormones will be released. What, what you're going to, what's going to happen physically in your body will be influenced by your beliefs. What's going to happen in your life is going to be influenced by your beliefs. You are energetically creating your future with your beliefs. So our thoughts Our intents, our words. Ericsson. But belief plays a really big role in it and it does everything that holds true in how you are creating and it's the same even in non physical form. That's why we have such varied death experiences and the accounts of them are so different. Because what I, my beliefs are going to inform my experience. I am going to co create my experience with consciousness. And it also has to have an element, I think of familiarity. So you don't freak out because you've just had a whole experience where you've had amnesia and you don't remember this place, right. And now you're back and you sort of need that sense of. It feels like home or a bit familiar. But you are going to co create that experience and you're going to create it through belief. If I believe, like you said, if I, if I believe I'm going to be punished or there's going to be. This is what, this is how I think of it. I feel that I didn't have, I didn't have an. I didn't have an understanding of life reviews or healing chambers or welcoming parties or anything like that. I actually didn't have a belief system about it. However, I also didn't have a belief of judgment or punishment or hell or I have any of that either. So I, I do believe. That explains why every experience is different. It has to be because it's not only catered for you but created by you in co creation with source. It's tailored how I understand it.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it's tailored to your something to make you feel comfortable to go through the process. And if you feel like you have to go through hell or you have to be judged, then that's what will happen. But generally speaking it's Taylor. That's why generally and not always. But like I heard a death experience the other day where Jesus shows up and Jesus, I always is the hardest working man in show business because he shows up at a lot of near death experiencers. But this, but this Jesus showed up in a suit, in a three piece suit. And he goes, and the guy, the guy knew who Jesus was but wasn't a Christian. And he goes, Jesus? He goes yes, because why are you wearing a suit? He goes well that's the only way you would take me seriously. Because you come from the business world.
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Sarah Jane
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
And he's. And then it starts, they both start to laugh at it. He's like, okay, now you know. Because it's normally it's the robe or something along those lines. Yeah. Sarah, it's been such a pleasure talking to you and thank you so much for sharing your, your beautiful experience with us. I'm gonna ask you a few questions, ask all my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilling life?
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Sarah Jane
That's a really hard one, Alex. I think my definition would be to live it as who you are on it. Like be you. Don't edit it. Don't. Don't live it how other people think you should live it. Do find what lights you up and do that and just leave it big and grab it and live it all. And it's amazing. All of it's just, it's amazing. I, I. Life is so much fun. And instead of putting our awareness on the negative, look at all like everything. There's so much to be grateful for. Just live it as you be you and you. Like, we're all love, right? But bring, bring your spark to life. And I know we're all here in service to others, to be love, like verb. That's what we're here for. We're here. That's what this whole thing fun game's about. To remember who we are. And all these experiences and opportunities that may look like illness or losing someone you love, they're all just in service to you, to wake you up so you remember who you are, which is I'm love. I'm here to be love in all my thoughts, words and actions and on mass consciousness. That's how everything evolves. That's why we're here. But hey, let's look. Have fun. Like here. Do it. Have fun. Fill your life with joy and all the good stuff. That sounds like a fulfilling life to me.
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Alex Ferrari
Now, if you had a chance to go back in time, what advice would you give yourself, your little self, little Sarah?
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Sarah Jane
I think just that. Don't be so serious. It's, you know, just don't be, don't be so serious. Be in the now. Like, don't. Don't spend your life worrying about things in the path or having anxiety or stressing about the future because you'll realize that you didn't spend any of your life living the moment you were in. You spend it all time traveling in the past or the future and not where you are. Like, live where you are. Be where you are. And, and don't be so serious about it all. And it's. Don't take yourself so seriously. Get over yourself. Literally, get over yourself. It's not about. It's, it's really not about you. It's. Do you know what I never.
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Alex Ferrari
And where can people find out more about you and the work that you're doing in the world?
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Sarah Jane
Okay, I've set up my personal website, which is Sarah Jane.com and IU and I've setting up a little soul academy because as you mentioned before, a lot of us that come back know we've come back to do some soul work too. And I'm in the process of writing a book about my experience that will come out probably early next year. I'm actually in the process of writing 3 Another thing about me, I like to just do everything and go for it.
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Alex Ferrari
Go for it.
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Sarah Jane
Just go for it. So yeah, so yeah, my website is probably where I direct people. They can hear about things as they're announced as they come out.
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Alex Ferrari
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And now back to the show. Sarah, it has been such a pleasure and honor speaking to you. Thank you so much for sharing your story and for helping awaken the planet with the work that you're doing. So thank you again.
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Sarah Jane
Thank you. Alex, thank you so much for the opportunity to share my experience. I I really appreciate it and I've had fun chatting to you. Thank you.
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Alex Ferrari
I want to thank Sarah so much for coming on the show and sharing her story with all of us. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes@next levelsoul.com 452 now if this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on next level Soul TV's app where Soul meets streaming. Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Roku, Android TV, Fire TV, LG and Samsung apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your Awakening at next LevelSoul TV. Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.
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