
Why are so many spiritually awakened people returning to church—even when they no longer believe the doctrine? In this mind-expanding conversation, Julie Ryan reveals a hidden layer most people overlook: the energetic reality of sacred spaces. From...
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Alex Ferrari
Welcome to Next Level Soul. The place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose and our consciousness to the Next Level? This is a space for transformation. A space for expansion, a space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv. Our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions or of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion Julie Ryan. How you doing, Julie?
Julie Ryan
I'm wonderful. I'm always wonderful when I'm with you.
Alex Ferrari
Aw, thank you so much, sweetie. I appreciate it. I'm excited to have you back on the show. There's a lot of stuff going on in the world, a lot. And I wanted to talk to you a little bit about it from spirit's point of view. And for people who don't know who you are are the quick. Can you give them a quick 30 second? You know, kind of. I hate to age ourselves, but the reader digest version or the clip or the Cliff Notes version of who you are.
Julie Ryan
Absolutely. I'm a. I'm a serial entrepreneur who's founded nine companies in five industries, and I'm an inventor and former manufacturer of surgical devices sold globally for more than 30 years, who learned how to do medical intuition and energy healing and all of that. So I'm a businesswoman who learned how to do woo woo. And I'm a buffet of psychicness.
Alex Ferrari
That's a great way to play. I love the buffet of psychicness. So I wanted it. We were right before we came on, we were having a conversation. You were what? You just watched this amazing film that we have on Next Level Soul TV called Marketing the Messiah. And both of us are Catholics. Or I'm a recovering Catholic, you're a cafeteria Catholic, and you can explain what that is in a minute. But that movie kind of started a conversation before we started about churches and that you still go to church even though you don't believe a lot about. About what the gospels say or. Or the. The kind of BS stuff that the. That the Catholic Vatican or the church did. Rome did originally. Right. But then we started getting into a deeper conversation about first of all, why you, you kept going. And then what happens, what you see from a psychics perspective in church, even though that, you know they might be reading a gospel, you're like, that's some BS that's coming out of the book right now. But I was very curious. I'm like, oh, why are you still going? So first off, let's find out why are you still going to church as a Catholic, but yet there's so much you disagree with what the man made church stuff has done.
Julie Ryan
As you know, I call myself a cafeteria Catholic. And that means. And we all do it, whether we admit to it or not, with everything, not just religion. You know, you're looking at a menu where you're going to order what you want, not what they want to feed you necessarily. So for me, going through 12 years of Catholic schools and it's familiar certainly I think the Catholics do a great job of helping little children become spiritual from a human perspective. When we learn about guardian angels and saints and the Holy Spirit and all of that. I teach people around the world how to do my buffet of psychicness. And I find that people that don't have any kind of a religious background, they're jumping off the high dive without any training. They, the ones that have been exposed to saints and angels and things like that, you know, they, they are a little bit in the deeper, closer to the deeper end, if you will. So why do I go? Because of the energy that I see get bestowed on everybody that shows up first for mass. Yeah, I go, I go pretty much every week. I meditate every morning and I say the rosary every morning. Every morning I do.
Alex Ferrari
That's amazing.
Julie Ryan
I do. Yeah. I use the hollow app and I, I may be making my bed or I may be brushing my teeth. There's a bomb doing the Hail Marys and you know, the whole nine yards. And I, and I see the, what I call grace bestow upon people who pray and who meditate and who connect with spirit. It's all about energy. So if we go back to the original meaning of what let's say Jesus and the apostles wanted to have with the early church and then you go into the first centuries, those gothic cathedrals were all designed to help people raise their vibrational level to the level of spirit. The Gothic, you know, the high ceilings, the reverb that's in there, you've got the visual with the beautiful altars and stained glass windows and all that, you got the olfactory with the candles and the incense, you got the auditory with the Chants and the music and the pipe organs. You have everybody together saying the same prayers. You know, I mean, that's ancient, where a lot of people together, the energy that comes, whether we're praying or we're meditating. And as you've heard me say before, our heads are like big satellite dishes. And they receive and they transmit frequencies. Every spirit has a frequency they keep throughout all of their lifetimes. And when we're attached to a body, our frequency is slower just because the body has mass. Imagine trying to run an electrical current through a bowl of pudding. It's going to slow it down because of the mass of the pudding. Same concept. So in order to connect, communicate with spirit, we need to raise our vibrational level because spirit is always communicating with us, whether that be God himself or. Yeah, know, or Jesus or Buddha, or a deceased loved one or our cat or whomever, it doesn't matter. It's all energy. But they're always broadcasting when we receive. The communication is when we're tuned to that channel. Similar to direct TV or satellite tv. How many shows do they broadcast simultaneously? Hundreds, if not thousands. But the show that you're going to receive is gonna be predicated on where you have your TV tuned. What channel are you tuned into? And that's how all of this works. So I think for me, I don't believe that it makes sense to throw the baby out with the bathwater because when I'm at mass, I see energetic things happening during the different parts of the mass, during the ritual that are ancient. And I've been to several other cathedrals and shri. Basilicas where I'm scanning it. I want to see what's going on. And I have great stories about that I'll be happy to share.
Alex Ferrari
It's fascinating because what I. From my experience, I've. I've had the privilege of going around the world and going to different churches. Every time we travel to Europe. Every day we're in a church because that's what Europe is, generally speaking, especially you're in Italy, Italy, in Spain. There are churches everywhere.
Julie Ryan
Right.
Alex Ferrari
So. And we're drawn to. My wife and I are drawn to. My kids are just like a really. Another freaking church. I'm like, yes, we're going to this church again and enjoy it. It's amazing. So we're walking in and the. There's something about. There's energy in these places. Yeah. And I was always curious about that, about why this energy still stays there, even though a lot of it is built on a foundation of like this Kind of missing, not misinformation, but just clogging up the pudding. Pudding is being thrown on it. And it's not the true teachings of what Christ really stood for or any of this kind of stuff. So it's packaged in this weird way. But I was like always wondering, why would spirit still leave that energy there? What is this? I hate to say this, but what is the science behind this? What is the spiritual science behind. Why this. These places have this vibration to it if what they've done is kind of change what originally, you know, originally was intended by Christ. We're talking specifically about Catholicism at this point.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And it's. And you can't deny the beauty. Like, I mean, you walk into the St. Peter's Basilica and you just like, good Lord. Like, like what Jesus, no pun intended. Like my. I mean, and you walk into it. But like some of the most energetically charged churches I've been into. The one, it comes right to mind was this little one in London that we were in, Hole in the Wall, ancient medieval church, but it was kind of like inside of a courtyard with all the modern buildings around it. So it was kind of like this little thing inside. You couldn't even see it from the street. And it was right next to where William Wallace was killed, if you remember.
Julie Ryan
Oh, wow.
Alex Ferrari
It was right next to there. So we went to see that and we like, oh, there's a church there. Let's go walk. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show. And when we walk in, it's this medieval church that has this. My wife and I were like, what is the energy? And it's not a particularly stunning church. It's. It's a beautiful church. And for what it is, Middle east, middle, middle aged church, a lot of stone, a lot of Braveheart could have been shot in there. No question. Without question it could have been. But the energy there was so beautiful. There were graves inside of the floors. Like you could see people's graves and everything around it was a very unique thing. But I felt the energy there. So it wasn't even what you were just talking about. It was stunning. And stained glass windows, it had some of that, but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't Nortedam, it wasn't St. Peter's Basilica. It wasn't anything like that. But I just found it very interesting. We went into one in Italy. We went into an underground altar area of a basilica in Italy, was a former basilica in Italy and in the Amalfi coast. My wife started crying and she is not, she's not religious at all. She's a recovering Catholic, as I am, and she just started to. And there's nothing. It was, it was a very beautiful, it was very ornate, beautiful space. But when I walked into it, I was like, oh. But she just started to tear up. So I was wondering, like, what on a spiritual science level, I hate to say, but what is actually happening in these spaces? What has happened in these spaces that has created this energy and then continues, according to you, from what your experience continues to create these energies to come through. Why is spirit choosing to go through a priest, delivering this energy in a mass, which I agree with you, I understand what you're saying. It makes sense that that happens. But why is spirit doing that? If it didn't. If the church as an organization has not really done everything all. You know, it's human, so it hasn't always been perfect. Let's just. Let's leave it at that. So why do you think that. Why do you think that from a spiritual perspective?
Julie Ryan
I think there's several factors. First of all, a lot of those cathedrals were. Are built on very specific ley lines. Like you were talking about being in a mosque, and there was a cathedral inside the mosque. And those are all built on ley lines. And people back in the day, they knew that they could feel the energy. And a lot of those places were originally pagan places. Pagan energy. That's theirs. That's number one. Number two, when you get centuries of people chanting, praying, you know, the. The grace that's coming from the mass that people get over the years, that embeds in the structure, that energy stays in the structure. And I think your point about walking in and. And your wife starting to cry is a really valid one, because she was picking up on the beauty of the energy. She wasn't picking up on the sadness of it. She was touched by what was going on. Furthermore, in a lot of those old cathedrals, they, to your point, they have graves in them, which is kind of creepy, you know, on the surface. And. And the whole concept of relics is kind of creepy in my mind from a human perspective. But then when I go to, okay, so here's a little chip supposedly of a bone of Saint, whoever. That energy from that saint is still in that bone chip that's inside that relic.
Alex Ferrari
Mm.
Julie Ryan
My family has a relic like that. My father was in the. The seminary in Rome for six years after World War II and went on the GI Bill, which I think is hilarious, and left six months before he was to be ordained, obviously, or I wouldn't be here. But he graduated from the Gregorian University, where St. Thomas Aquinas and a whole bunch of popes graduated from. And he got this relic when he was. When he was in Rome and brought it home with them. And my older brother has it. And so when somebody in the family is sick or a dear friend, he'll take that relic to them. I'm telling you, Alex, more times than not, that person gets well. I mean, there's some serious mojo in that relic, even for people that don't really believe it's got an energy to it. So that's interesting. The other thing is, any kind of a structure is going to hold energy. And when you get that many people, you know, raising their vibrational level, to the level of spirit. The structure is going to vibrate at the same level, much like metronomes. If you put a bunch of metronomes in a room and they're, they're tick tocking at different rates, they're all going to synchronize.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, they do.
Julie Ryan
They're all going to synchronize. So why is that still in those buildings? Why does, why does that still persist even with the problems with the church? Well, there aren't problems with every church, with every government, with every civilization. And the key is, you know, think about America. My gosh, there's so many different opinions in America, which is what makes America great. If everything was all the same, think how boring life would be and nothing would ever change because that's when we created is when we're unhappy with something. So it would be like saying, well, we just need to stop America because we don't, you know, we don't agree with some of the things that have happened over the centuries in American history. I think history makes things what it, what they are like in the, the case of the church. And so we take what we like. For me, I, I agree that there, I was telling you before we started recording, there are some gospels, you know, some excerpts from the Bible that they read it past. And I'll be talking to my husband. Oh, that is such nonsense. Like, you know, the, my favorite is the wife has to honor the husband, you know, even if he's beating her or whatever. I mean, I'm paraphrasing and like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At after mass, I always go up to the priest and I go, you did a good job of getting yourself out of that one, you know, of, of doing around it. I think too. The thing that's so interesting is the Bible has been studied for eons and it's still being studied. And there are so many differing opinions about what this means, what that means, what's the early translation, what was the original meaning behind it? So we take what we want out of it, out of a lot of the, all of those parables and everything. And you're the one that told me to watch that, marketing the Messiah. And, and it was really interesting. I. Anybody that's a member, if you're not a member, become a member. It's a next level soul. The, just to watch that. It's fascinating because they're saying, okay, this is in this gospel, this is in the other gospel, this is in the other gospel. And some of them don't have any of It. And, you know, a lot of them never met Jesus. Never met anybody connected with Jesus.
Alex Ferrari
I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody in the New Testament. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think James, Paul. But Paul never met Jesus, right? Paul never. He's not even an apostle.
Julie Ryan
He wrote all those letters to the Corinthians.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, that's right. And then, and then. But, but. But when he first started to write, he. Like, this is some bs this Jesus guy. This is some horrible day. So. And then he did a turn. It's just a. That's a. It's a fascinating movie. It's one of my favorite things that we have on Next Level Soul tv.
Julie Ryan
It was great. I'm glad you told me to watch it.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. It's just so much for. Any Catholic should watch it. Just as a person or anybody who is.
Julie Ryan
Any Christian.
Alex Ferrari
Any Christian. Thank you. Any Christian should watch it because it just opens. It just opens you up to different ideas. I love what you just said. You don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And. And you know what? There's been a lot of spiritual trauma, I guess, that I went through. And I think every Catholic that kind of comes over to the other side, if you will, does have a trauma. You've obviously dealt with that trauma. Like, for me, it's difficult to go to it. For me, it is difficult to go to a Mass. I haven't been to a mass in forever, but I've been in churches constantly. Anytime I travel overseas, so I keep getting drawn into them. It's not like I don't want, like, I. It's the first thing for. In Europe and there's a church around. We're going to go. Just out of curiosity. There's something I'm drawn to.
Julie Ryan
You're drawn to the energy of it.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. But. So the high vibe, the mosque that I told you about, we were in the south of Spain and there's this ma. I mean, I've never seen something so massive. It's a massive, massive mosque with, you know, more architecture and. And all. It's stunning. But it was. When the. It was. Because it's. Northern Africa is right at the tip of Northern Africa. So when the Christians came from the. From the north, down south, they obviously were taking over everything. When they took over the mosque, they just built a church inside of it, a Catholic church inside of it. And it's the strangest space I've been into in a religious thing because you have two competing IDEOLOGIES and architecture in the same space. But it's beautiful. The cat. The cat. The. The Catholic church that they built inside of it. They built essentially two is stunning. Stunning, stunning, stunning. But the energy in there was so stunning and beautiful. But you're looking at a mosque with Jesus hanging on the cross or images of Mary stuff. It was just the weirdest thing, but it was a beautiful energy. I did. Did I tell you what happened to me when I went to the Vatican?
Julie Ryan
I don't think so.
Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. So I went to St. Peter's Basilica and I go, I go in and it's, you know, there's La Prietra right there and you know, you're like geez, holy crap. It's, it's still, it's one of the largest churches I've ever been to if
Julie Ryan
not hold 10000 people or something crazy.
Alex Ferrari
Well, that church can, the one in south of Spain. I argue that could hold 10000 people because it was just so. It wasn't, it was big but it wasn't as big as the, as St. Peter's Basilica. But it was just wide. It was just, just, just miles it seemed. But St. Peter's is just such a. It's just an insane, insane space. But I had the opportunity to go into the crypts where the Popes were buried. So I was walking by, and they said, hey. I go, do you want to come in? I'm like, what is this? They're like, oh, this is where the Popes are buried. And it was quiet, you know, like. Yeah. And our whole family went down and. And it's just. You know, there's St. Paul or Pope John Paul's right there. And you're like, oh, wow. Like, I feel like, oh, I'm. I'm where the celebrities are. I know these people kind of thing. But you're walking around, you just see the dates from, like, you know, 400, 500, 600. And it's all very plain. The whole place is white marble, but it's, like, jagged white marble. So it's all very clean and plain. I turn a corner, and I look down. Like, it's like a little hall, like a very small hallway, and at the end, there's a glass door, and it's nothing but color inside. Just wood and, like. Like, mahogany carved wood and paintings and. And a fountain. And I'm like, inside. I'm like, what is this? And I asked one of the people that worked. I go, who's in there? Well, that's Peter.
Julie Ryan
Oh.
Alex Ferrari
And I go. Because I felt it. I felt there was. I mean, I was like. I got chills being there. I go, you mean. You mean Peter? The Peter that paid Paul? And they said, yeah, that's Peter. And I was just, like, in awe.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Of like, holy crap. That's. That's Peter. That's where Peter is. So I was like, wow. And the energy there was so interesting. So there's this kind of. For me, at least, there seems to be two sides pulling on me. The side of the energy and the beauty and the obvious. There's good in it. The good. The baby. But then there's the bath water. Yeah, that. That I have. That I have issues with, and that's why I'm kind of always being pulled. But yet I'm still always drawn to these places. So. I have a lot of problems with the Catholic Church. I have a lot of problems. What they've done over the history. I have a lot of problems with what they do currently. I think a lot of the stuff they don't. They do is not good. But on the same token, on the other side of that coin, they do help a lot of people around the world. They do provide a lot of service for a lot of people. And I've always said this, and I'll always say it, I'm very grateful for being raised Catholic because just like you said, it introduced me to a higher power. Mind you, there was a lot of muck with it, a lot of pudding, but it did introduce me to a higher power that I will always be grateful for because of that, because I was introduced to Jesus's teachings and stuff. But another thing that you said, too, is like, when you meditate, you're doing it. When you're praying, you're doing it. A lot of people in the new age don't understand that difference. Can you explain to it? Because just because there's a yogi meditating doesn't negate the person who's praying on a daily basis. The rosary, they're both doing similar things, but in a different fashion. Can you explain that a little bit?
Julie Ryan
I can. Before I get to that, I'd like to follow up on what we were talking about earlier with the vibration in these buildings. You hit the nail on the head, Alex, when you said when you were in the mosque, with the Catholic basilica built inside the mosque, it's all the same God. It's all spirit. It doesn't matter whether you like chocolate or vanilla or strawberry. It's all ice cream, Right? And this is the same with spirit. Catholicism is familiar to me. I, I, it's the ritual. When somebody in my family dies, when we know what to do, we do the ritual. It's very comforting. It's very, there's closure there. It helps with the grieving, all of that. Two stories, real fast. If I may share them about being in, in different churches. One, the, the basilica in Baltimore, Maryland. Fun, fun. Quick story. It was built by the same, it was designed by the same architect that designed the U.S. capitol. It's not Gothic. You go in, it's got a dome, it's got pillars, the whole nine yards. And the story on that. And I heard this from a docent there at the basilica. She told me that Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Carroll, who was the first bishop in America, were poker buddies. And they would get together and play poker once a week. And so Ben Franklin was the ambassador to France, and he became friends with the ambassador from the holy receipt from the Vatican. And one night he said to this, this Vatican guy goes, you know, my buddy John Carroll, you, you need to tell Pope to make him the bishop because he's in Baltimore. And, you know, he, he'd be, he'd do a really good job. So within a month, the Vatican made John Carroll the first bishop in America. And they said, just build a basilica. You know, whatever. They didn't give him a budget. They just build it. So they're playing poker, and Thomas Jefferson goes, you know, why don't you talk to this guy who's designing this capital for us? The new federal capitol. That's how it got built. So I'm there on business. I had a moment extra. I went to mass at noon. I crashed a funeral, Alex. There was a funeral going on. I didn't know it, but I thought, what the heck? You know? So I was there. And during the mass, I'm looking around, you know, at the structure and. And all of that. Afterwards, this woman came up to me and she said, are you visiting? And I said, was I that obvious? And she left. And she said, would you like a tour? I said, oh, I would love it. So she gave me a tour of all this. The structure was originally built all with sand holding up all the beams and everything of this basilica. And just in the past, like, 20 years, they've replaced all the original sand. So we're in the undercroft. We go through this. This hallway, and, I mean, my whole body started buzzing, and I was like, what's this? It's where John Carroll was buried. It's his crypto. We go into this little chapel in the undercroft of the basilica, and for some reason, this woman. This woman started getting teary, and she said, my son just died by suicide six months ago. Please forgive me for my emotion, but every time I come in here, I can feel him. And I said, well, I'm a psychic. You want to talk to him? She said, yeah. So we did. We both sat there, we talked to her son's spirit. She got all of her questions answered. It gave her son so much comfort. And then after we were done talking with them, I said, there's a pew back there on the back of the wall. And I said, mother who? Mother Teresa and John Carroll are sitting on the pew. And she said, go look at the plaque on the pew. It said, mother Teresa sat in this pew when she visited the basilica in 19. Whatever her spirit and John Carroll spirit were there, they wanted me to see them so I could relay that to this woman, which is why, you know, it feels so good there. So that's story number one. Story number two. There's a shrine north of me. I live in Birmingham, Alabama, and there's a shrine north of me in a place called Hanceville. Alabama. It was built by a woman named Mother Angelica who founded an order of nuns here in Birmingham. And so you go and in the undercroft of this basilica, all gold's beautiful, gorgeous. People come from all over the world to come visit this place in the undercroft. They do a healing service once a week. And I've been to it four times and every time I'm there, Alex the priest does what they call benediction. It's a service that they do and they say prayers and stuff and then everybody comes up to the communion rail and if they can kneel, they, they do. If they need to stand, if they're in a wheelchair, whatever. And he blesses them with the communion with the host, right. And so every time I'm there, whenever anybody gets blessed, all the way down the communion rail, it's like somebody's flipping a light switch as soon as that person is blessed. Furthermore, when everybody's back in the pew, there are tons of fire on everybody's head. Like Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came and there were tongues of fire on the apostles heads. You know that whole part of the, of the New Testament, I haven't seen that anywhere else. And they have lots of other stories. I'm seeing energy, different energy things in different cathedrals. But at every mass I see energy. During the consecration when the priest says this is my body, this is my blood, there's a beam of energy that comes from up outside of the church, up above, comes down on the altar and then when he holds up the chalice or the host, there's this beam of light that goes out on the whole congregation. The ending prayer, same thing. Priest holds up his hand, gives you a blessing. There's energy that goes on, on everybody. So I'm sure people think I'm very reverent because my eyes are closed a lot of the time at mass. But it's because I'm watching the energy that's going on that's coming from spirit, coming from God, coming from source. And it's fascinating.
Alex Ferrari
We'll be right back after a word
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. So before we continue, I just want to ask you, and I'm going to play devil's advocate. No pun intended.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
That if, if man created this church and there is a lot of pudding, as we like to, as you like to say in this, and there's a lot of muck and it hasn't always been perfect and it always hasn't been good, why does spirit choose to do that? Like, why wouldn't it want. And again, devil's advocate, why wouldn't spirit want to kind of like, kind of let this go and let this kind of fall apart without this kind of support? Because I agree with you, there is something that happens in there, but if it's coming through a priest, it kind of goes against everything that we've always talked about, which is the powers within you. So I'm curious, I'm just trying to make sense of that.
Julie Ryan
Yeah. Two answers to that. Number one, the millennia of high vibration, of spirit being in all of these places, the millennia of the rituals, the millennia of the intention still is present. Number one, it's in all those structures. It's in the rituals. It's in the praying of the rosary. And I'll get to your meditation versus prayer thing in a minute. When, when it comes to. What was your second question? Remind me.
Alex Ferrari
Why, why does it, why is it, why does it choose to come through, you know, a human being like that to.
Julie Ryan
Oh yeah, the priest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's been my experience, and this is my belief. I don't have to go through a priest. I go direct.
Alex Ferrari
Right, Exactly. That's what we've always said. Yeah.
Julie Ryan
And I think that whole. You got to go through the priest and. Or you got to go through the pastor, you got to go through the Taoist priest or the Buddha priest or whatever, that's just all control, you know, that's all man made, trying to control the masses. I believe a lot of the old guard, my parents, my grandparents, my great grandparents and my ancestors believed that priests had special powers. Yours did, too, certainly. Of course, those people are dying off, Alex. And there's a resurgence of people coming back to these organized churches, but it's from a different mindset. It's not, hey, Father, I'm coming to talk to you because you're going to solve all my problems, and you're the only way I can get to God. I don't believe that that's what's happening. I think these younger people in the newer generations that are coming back and there is a big resurgence in organized religion, they're. Especially in America, what they're doing is they're saying, okay, this is an atmosphere. This ritual has energy to it. There's something going on that I'm attracted to. There's something in the building. There's something in the structure. There's something. When a bunch of people get together to pray for similar things or even their own intentions, but they're all at a higher vibration level, all coming together, and you get that group of people together, you know, if you're in a church and they're singing a bunch of wonderful songs, that lifts you up. It makes you feel better.
Alex Ferrari
Sure. Just on an energetic level. Vibrational level. Sure.
Julie Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. So there's that. Now, to answer your question about the prayer versus the meditation, what do you think prayer is? It's meditation. It's a form of meditation. The rosary beads. People have been praying with beads since the caveman days, since the dinosaur era.
Alex Ferrari
Around the world.
Julie Ryan
Around the world, exactly. And. And they used to make the beads out of rose petals, which is why they call it the rosary.
Alex Ferrari
Rosary.
Julie Ryan
Rosary. So that's ancient. People have been doing a form of prayer or meditation, and it's the same thing, you know, it's rote prayer. The reason why the prayers are so ancient in the Catholic Church, of which I'm the most familiar, you kind of remember, most people were illiterate till about 150 years ago in some Parts of the world, they still are. So they would do the rote prayers because they could remember them, and they would all do the prayers together, which would raise the collective vibration and allow them to connect with spirit and receive guidance and blessings and things like that.
Alex Ferrari
I agree with you that I think that any way that someone can connect to spirit in their way, as long as you're not hurting someone else, is perfectly fine. I find it so fascinating when people. When people sit on their high horse and they're like, well, my way is the only way. If, you know, my God is the right God and all that stuff. That's what wars are.
Julie Ryan
All.
Alex Ferrari
All the wars are going on right now. Many of them are about and. And all of that. But, you know, you and I were just happened to be born. Not happened. We chose according to our blueprints on the other side, but we chose to come in as Catholics, right. To a Catholic family. But you, you could have been born in India. If you were born in India, you would have probably been a Hindu. If you were born in China, you would have been either a Taoist, a Confucius or. Or Buddhist, you know, or many other options to have over there. Same thing. So if you were born in the Middle east, you're more likely going to be Muslim. If you're born in Africa, there's other. There's other traditions over there. Well, also, what I found, I just saw this video the other day. I found. I just thought it was just brilliant. It was an African, African man explaining to a group of Catholic or Christian students that they had their information mixed up. They. They said, do you understand that Europeans did not bring Christianity to Africa? We had it before you guys. The Ethiopian Bible is much older than anything in Europe.
Julie Ryan
Really? I didn't know that.
Alex Ferrari
I didn't either. I didn't either. Like, we actually had it a lot longer than you guys have ever. We were Christian way before the Europeans ever showed up.
Julie Ryan
You're gonna post a documentary about that on the network.
Alex Ferrari
I'm. Hey, I'm. I'm only one man, but I will do what I can if I hear
Julie Ryan
of what I will.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it was, it was so. It was just such a fascinating, like, yeah, that's. It's not a Euro, a European religion. It's a Middle Eastern religion. Right? That. That came through Africa and then eventually got to Europe and then eventually to America. But it was, it was. It's. So there's a history in Africa that Christianity is much older, huh? And much closer. Well, the Ethiopian Bible is the Closest Bible that includes the Book of Enoch, by the way, to the original release of the Bible back in the day. So the Ethiopian Bible is centuries older than the King James. Centuries.
Julie Ryan
Well. And the authors of whatever the text is, whether it be the Bible, it's been translated well. And, you know, they're the ones that. That are portraying how they want it to be. And I. I do have another story I'd love to share about how it's all the same. Spirit is all the same. You know, God is all the same. One of my dear friends, a Taoist priest named Sun Chang, he has a temple outside of Las Vegas. And I was there a couple of years ago, and he said he has a podcast, and I was a guest, and he said, you've been invited to the upper temple. And I said, okay, cool.
Alex Ferrari
And he's.
Julie Ryan
And I'm thinking, all right, so we go up there, Alex. We go up these stairs. There's these velvet curtains. I walk through these curtains, and I had a little bit of trouble breathing at first. It was so heavy. It was dense. The energy was dense. And he. I said, my God, I feel like I'm scuba diving or something. And he said, yeah, you'll. You'll normalize here in a minute. And he had these huge statues, and he's got, like, the Jade Emperor and these other. I'm a Catholic girl. What do I know about the Jade Emperor? Nothing. And so I'm looking at the statues, and they're beautiful. And he's got incense, and he's got candles and all that. And there's a yin and yang symbol in the middle of the room in front of the altar. I went and stood on it, Alex. Holy Moses. This energy came flying up through my feet, flying up the top of my head. There were spirals. There were ellipticals. It went on for a couple of minutes. It was a huge frequency upgrade. I'm in the middle of it, and he can see it. He can watch what's going on. And then it was done. And I said, good heavens. I said, I just got a frequency upgrade. He said, you sure did. And I thought, okay, this is all the same juju stuff. This is all energy coming from source. This is all the same. Not that I didn't intellectualize that before, but, oh, my goodness, it was amazing. And so afterwards, we were having dinner, and I said, thank you for letting me go up there and experience that. He said, you're one of about five people that have been invited up there in all the years I've had this temple. He said, I didn't invite you. The emperors did. Okay. And he said you had to have the vibration that was high enough that you could hold the vibration in that room and then get the the extra vibration. It was one of the most remarkable experiences of my life. Really. It was just amazing. And. And he's an Aussie who became a Dallas priest because he started channeling Lao Tzu at 18.
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.
Tyler Redick
Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. Wonderful. 20 million is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting. Take your call. 247365.
Julie Ryan
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Julie Ryan
I mean this guy was like no religion, no meditation, no nothing. And. And so it was it was not only an amazing experience from the frequency upgrade that I got, but it was very enlightening in that it's really true. It doesn't matter what flavor you do. It's all the same God, it's all the same spirit, it's all the same source.
Alex Ferrari
I had something similar happen to me when I went to Yogananda's place in Los Angeles in Mount Washington, energetically. There was a lot of stuff that happened to me there that I, I mean, the nuns there were worried about me because I wouldn't leave. I couldn't leave. I could not leave the meditation there, it was pretty powerful. They kept popping their head and they're like, is he in, Samantha? Like, what's going on? Yeah, it was very powerful. So there are those, There is, look, there's people who've come into this room. You've been here, right? That have come into this room and started to cry. Not because of the show or anything else, but like, oh, they were in your presence. Not because they were in my presence, obviously, but because they walked into the space and they feel the energy of all of these high vibrational beings who've been on my show. Yeah, that. And, and the people sense it when they walk in this room. I, I'm in it all the time. Like, like, you know, if you, if you're in it, in it all day, you don't feel it as much anymore. You're just used to it. It's your norm.
Julie Ryan
Right.
Alex Ferrari
But when other people who come in, they're like, oh, there's like, oh, there's a lot of people who've been very interesting people have sat in that chair. I go, yeah, there it is. So I understand how a space can hold a vibration without question, because this space we built from scratch, this did not exist and we are definitely not on a ley line.
Julie Ryan
I have a another fun story real fast. I'd love to share. My. One of my dear friends is a woman named nina, and she's 94 and she's fabulous. She's had six kids and she's got a bazillion grandkids and bazillion great grandkids. I had lunch with her last weekend and she said, I have five great grandchildren driving now. She goes, that makes me feel like I'm a dinosaur. Anyways, she had this cute little stool, this was several years ago in her home, and I. And it was all engraved and it was like carved and stuff. And I said, well, what's that? And she said, well, it's it was a wake bench. It held the casket. I said, what are you doing with that in your house? And she said, well, well, her son had bought one and he kept one and he gave her one. And I said, okay, I need to clear that because think of all the sorrow and the grief energy that's in that little bench. Because back, back in the day, they used to have wakes in the home. You know, somebody. Now we go to a funeral home to have the visitation, but the visitations used to be in the homes. So I, So I cleared the energy out. And the energy, it wasn't dark, but it was sad and it was, it was all that sorrow that went into the wood of that bench. And then we got in the car, we drove to her son's house, she knocked on the door, she said, julie needs to clear the sorrow out of that funeral bench thing that you bought. And so we did his as well. So point being, it's not just high vibration energy. Can be low vibration energy of sorrow. Like the, the camps, you know, in Germany or two. When people go in, there's. I haven't been to one, I don't want to go to one. But they say it's just overwhelming, the sorrow.
Alex Ferrari
I could not. When I, When I went to nine, when I went to New York, in Manhattan and I went to ground zero, I was walking in Manhattan and the second I stepped up onto. On the street, I was walking on the street. When I stepped onto the sidewalk, where 9, where 9, 11 happened. Now we're now in ground zero, officially. I was hit with a wall of sadness. Despair energy was so heavy.
Julie Ryan
Right.
Alex Ferrari
I could bear. It was so intense. I started, I sat there for a second. I surrounded myself in white energy and trying to kind of protect myself from this, this vibe, this. And you could just sense it. You can feel it. It was just like visceral. It was visceral. It's kind of like when, when I went to Hawaii and I got off the plane and I got hit by a wall of relaxation, because it was just like the energy, the vibration of those islands is just chill. Like you can't, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't in the big city, which has its own vibration. I was in Honolulu, I was in Maui. But when you get there, you're just like, oh, I can't really move really fast. Island time is a thing. You go to the Caribbean, it's a thing. There's energies to it. But yeah, I've been to those places as well. And I guess as you start to raise your own frequency in your own spiritual path. You start to become more sensitive to these energies. You start to feel rooms. You start to feel people as well. We have another. Another show. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. We have another show on the next level, Soul tv, called Haunted Objects. Because you kind of brought up the bench and. And I'm curious on your point of view. What happens to certain objects that historically have either a positive vibe to it or a really negative, almost haunting, like, energy to it? Like, if anyone is with it or touch it. I know you and I both are old enough to remember the Brady Bunch episode.
Julie Ryan
Oh, yeah, sure.
Alex Ferrari
You know exactly which one I'm talking about, right? When Greg. When Greg took the idol, the Hawaiian Idol, and they said, don't take it. It's got bad juju. And he almost dies or something. I think he fell on something and he almost dies. I can't believe I'm making a Brady brunch reference, but that was a. That was like early Spirituality
Julie Ryan
of a Lovely Lady.
Alex Ferrari
We don't have the rights to that. But anyway, so. But there's that. That thing was like. You pick up the certain object or you have this certain object. Before we. Before I. You answer, I have to tell you this story. A friend of mine who's a director went to Easter Island.
Julie Ryan
Oh, wow.
Alex Ferrari
And he was. He directed the movie about Easter Island. Wanna poopy or. I forget what. Heck, not wanna poopy, but you know what I'm saying, it's the name of island in their language. And he went there doing a location scout and he was going to do everything. And he went out into this area and there was a bunch of, you know, just lava and stones and things like that. And he picked one up out in the field somewhere. Nothing sacred, just out in the field, picked one up or him or his first AD or someone picked it up. When they were walking back towards the. I guess the hotel or the bar, wherever they were staying. The entire area they were in was silent. When I say silent, there's not a bird chirping. There's not wind there. It was eerie. He said, he's like. You couldn't hear a sound. And it's so very odd. Like humans, there's always a sound of something going on in nature. It was deathly silent. They walk in and the. The Nate, the. The locals turned him. Like, you took something, didn't you? And they're like, yeah. I was like, put it back. And he put it back and everything went back to Normal. And this is not a woo guy. This is a Hollywood director. And he's like, yeah, dude, we, we. When we made that movie, we did it with a tremendous amount of respect.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
So what's your take on all of that?
Julie Ryan
Two things. First of all, a dear friend of mine, Dr. Christian Northrup, who I think spent on your show is. She went to medical school at Dartmouth, Ivy League. Her first day of medical school, they started talking to him about voodoo medicine. She sitting here thinking, what, what is this? She's dear friend. And she said that what they told them was that it's the belief system, it's the placebo effect. When somebody puts a curse on somebody, the people that die are the ones that believe that they, they're going to die because they have a curse on them. The ones that are like, oh, that's a bunch of nonsense. Nothing happens to them. So it's the belief, number one. Number two, there's. We're going to be releasing a show here in a few weeks and I'm trying to remember the name of the town. There's this town in England, little tiny town, where they did this experiment with several mediums. And they were in the basement of this 1700s farmhouse and they would talk to spirits on the other side and things would materialize, like out of the blue. Keys, coins. Really. Yeah, stuff like that. I'll get the name of it and I'll. I'll send it to you. And so I had the documentarian on this show. I think we're releasing it this weekend. So all this stuff's showing up. And the most amazing thing was a newspaper. Two newspapers, I think from the 1940s materialized out of thin air. Now they're, they're recording all this stuff. There's nobody in the rooms and. And on the paper, on the front page was a story about a psychic who during World War II was. Tried to give information about the German plans to the Brits.
Alex Ferrari
The Allies. Yeah.
Julie Ryan
And they thought she was nuts and they put her in jail.
Alex Ferrari
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.
Tyler Redick
Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Julie Ryan
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Julie Ryan
And she was one of the spirits with whom they were communicating on the other side. So she materialized this 1940s paper. They had it tested and it was 1940s Inc. And it was original. And yeah, I mean it was, it was wild, crazy. So I was telling I do a, my angelic attendant training, my big graduate class. I do a monthly get to together. And I was telling him about this. And so one of my grads, Alex, that night, she wanted to watch the documentary on YouTube and she turned it on. I had talked to him about it earlier in the day. It was a Saturday night. She said she was home alone. Just, just, it was just her and her dog and she had one of those sinks in her powder room that's just a bowl. She turned it on, it was playing for two minutes and her sink exploded into a billion pieces. And so she's on the phone with me going, what the heck is going on here? And I said, your vibration was so high from when we were all together. In the graduate group here earlier this afternoon. And then the vibration of the documentary and those mediums that were in there combined with your vibration. She sent me pictures. I mean, it was in a kabillion pieces, and she said it was just the freakiest thing ever. So she's on the phone with me. She called her husband, and. And then she called me, and she's like, what the heck is going on? I said, it was just. You just raised your vibrational level. And you know those glass sinks, they're about a half an inch or an inch thick. A lot of them. The glass, it's not fragile.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Julie Ryan
Yeah. So she got it replaced, and she's watched it again, and it, you know, it hasn't exploded, but. But I think that's the. That's a great example of the power of this energy that we have, especially when we do it collectively. You know, we do have the power to heal. We do have the power to help relieve grief and anxiety and things like that. Nobody ever heals anybody else. We help them heal themselves, and they'll match our frequency when our frequency is high, and that helps them heal themselves.
Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. I mean, I've. I've been dealing with a lot of different energies just by the. The nature of the job I have. Talking to weirdos like yourself, and I say that with all the love in the world. No, but speaking to people that have these energies, channelers and then psychic mediums and things like that, they do have a. It does. Does something to you. I've been in the room with channelers where I'm just. I'm a mess. And then I've been. Sometimes I'm like. I'm completely energized by being in the. In the presence of whoever they're channeling. So it's. There's something visceral about it. I don't. I can't explain it particularly, but we all do it. We all in one way, shape or
Julie Ryan
form, know that we're doing it. But every author, every composer, every painter, every director, every movie director, Alex, like you, every screenwriter, every. I mean, we're all channeling. All day long, we're channeling which way to go, what to wear, what. It's all channeling. We just don't realize it.
Alex Ferrari
And when you say channeling, you're channeling from your higher self, essentially.
Julie Ryan
Channeling from your higher self and from others as well. There. There are countless stories about Tesla talking to somebody or somebody else. One of my favorite quotes, back to the Prayer and meditation thing comes from St. Augustine. And he says when you sing, you pray twice. That's ancient, and I love that. And so I think all of those composers who have lyrics to their songs, and so many of the songs, the lyrics are so full of messages from spirit. I use a lot of songs and we study the lyrics in my trainings, because it's just spirit communicating to us through a multitude of different ways.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. I mean, you pick up Autobiography of a Yogi and you just start to read it. There's a. There's an energy to it. There's old ancient books that you start to read, and you just, like, you feel it. You feel the power of the words combined together. It's. It's very interesting. It's very, very interesting, Julie, to say the least. Now, before. Before we go, I wanted to tonight talk about something. A few other things before we go about what's happening in the world today. Specifically. There has been a. There has been a lot of. In the news. There's been a lot of spiritual leaders who have started to. There's things have come up about them. Specifically, who is a very big. I mean, he is like the father of spirituality in many. In many ways of wellness and spirituality in the West. I mean, he really introduced a lot to the West. He did a lot of good, let's just put it that way. He opened up a lot of doors for people. You know, was him and Wayne Dyer and those kind of guys when they were coming up that were really opening up spirituality and a lot of New Age ideas, metaphysical ideas and so on. So on one hand, we'll use Mr. Chopra as an example that he. He did a lot of good in his career, but yet behind the scenes, apparently he's. And because he's on the other. And the things that I read about, what he actually said is pretty disturbing, right? So it's kind of like a. It's a dichotomy, which is a human being. A human being is, by the way, the same thing. You have two sides to you, but this is a very different thing. These are people who have been put up on pedestals. These are people put up on altars, if you will, to, you know, that they are better, they know something that we don't, or something like that. And they seem to be coming crashing down. John of God was another one of those OSHA with that documentary Wild, Wild country on Netflix. That was a, you know, an amazing documentary about. It might have been skewed in one way, shape or form because there's a lot of good. And they were actual spirit, like kids. And OSHA specifically, his teachings are profound. And there's millions of people around the world that still follow him and go to mosques, not mosque or churches or, you know, you know what I'm talking about, temples. That. With his. With him and his teachings about it. So it's really weird because when you're. When you're. When you're a guy twiddling your mustache as the train's coming, you've tied up the lady on the train tracks. That's easy to understand. That's extremely black or white, but this is extremely gray. It's not gray in what they did or how they acted, but there's two sides to this, because they did do good, they did help, but they still fell and still fell to these more human aspects of this experience. So from spirit's point of view, what. What do they have to say about this?
Julie Ryan
Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. First of all.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, great. Oh, I love that. That's on a T shirt. We're putting that on a T shirt.
Julie Ryan
And we're here having the human experience. We are spirits here having the human experience. And we need right and wrong, good and bad, evil and good in our human experience because it helps us create. As I mentioned before, if everything was just hunky, hunky all the time, we wouldn't have any incentive to create anything new. And that's how we expand not only as an individual, as a spirit, but also collectively. And so I think this is a great example of people having the opportunity to get in tune with their own discernment. If something doesn't feel right, even though some big guru who's the, like, spiritual leader of whatever is saying it, then it then follow your gut, follow your intuition. It gives us all an opportunity to pay attention to that. And. And humans are faulted. They're faulty. We grow from that. Every time somebody goes through something and they regret it, you know, they grow from it. So putting somebody on a pedestal is the first thing that you don't want to do. Because no matter who it is, because everybody's human. The thing that I've heard so many times from spirit Alex, is in heaven in spirit, pure spirit. There's no right or wrong, there's no good or bad. It's just an experience. And we create out of every experience. That's hard for me to understand as a human in this day and age. I can intellectually go there, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Although the more I've heard it, the more I'm like, okay, is it feasible? Yeah, well, I understand it when I'm back in heaven. Yeah. So that's the position that I go into. So you look at somebody that's doing something just horrific and we think, oh, they're gonna, you know, they need to be hung in the courtyard by their toenails. Whatever.
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.
Tyler Redick
Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Julie Ryan
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Julie Ryan
What I've heard from Spirit is they're saying, oh, this is going to be interesting. You know, what's this going to create? How's Alex going to get out of this predicament? What's going to happen with the other people that are being affected? What changes are going to happen that are going to be to the betterment of humanity and to the collective? And they're looking at it from a different perspective. In Kabbalistic healing, which I studied for three years, you've got that balance of the light and the dark, yin and yang, you know, same thing. You've got both and we need both in order to create. So I think it's a great analogy to use what's happening with some of these spiritual teachers now with what's happened with cultures and religions over the millennia. You got good, you got bad. You create more good when you know what the bad is and it helps
Alex Ferrari
you move forward similar to what's happened with the Catholic Church. Let's go back to the Catholic Church. I mean, when you and I were growing up, it was infallible. There was no issues at all. At least that's, I mean, there was none. Right. You know, it's the Pope's. The Pope. God sakes, the Pope.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
This is all this stuff where. Well, obviously in the last 30 years or more, some things have been brought out to, to the public of things that were going on.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And arguably still probably are going on in one way, shape or form in that organization and the COVID ups and all that kind of stuff. So that kind of started to disillusion. A lot of disillusionment happened after that. And that's when all, all religions, all organizations. Don't get me started on how there's fast food companies who are allowed to sell the food that they sell to human beings. It's right. I, I just, you know, so there, it's everywhere. It's everywhere in every organization and every, every kind of organization in the world. And being a spiritual leader, there's no exception to you in many ways, you are human. You're gonna go through human things whether you choose to go down, that they have the capability. Yogananda. I use Yogananda a lot because he was a reference point of someone we actually filmed and have audio of and, and he was a walking Master of his day. He went through, you know, he, they, they was. He was run out of town, death threats, all these kind of things. And he yet still had to deal with being human.
Julie Ryan
Right?
Alex Ferrari
And. But he chose not to go down certain paths, as many spiritual leaders and many spiritual gurus don't do. But there's some who didn't do that work and fall into those traps again. You know, fame is a really, really weird thing. Very weird thing.
Julie Ryan
Well, my, My favorite mortal sin used to be eat meat on Friday. You know, it used to be that when I was growing up, you couldn't eat meat on Friday, period. It was just. It was just a really bad sin if you ate meat on Friday. And then it was. They changed it to just Lent, you know, you just couldn't eat meat on Friday during Lent. We're filming this during Lent right now. And as a kid, I thought, God doesn't care if I'm eating meat or if I'm eating a hot dog or I'm eating a, you know, fish sandwich. Why. Why would God care about that? And then I learned, okay, it was a sanitary thing from back. Back in Jesus's day, and it made a lot of sense. So I laugh now and I think, God bless all those poor souls that are burning in hell because they meet on Friday before they change the rule. And now it doesn't matter, you know, I mean, what happens with that? It just doesn't make any sense. So we need to keep. Keep our brains working and our own BS meters working. And that goes to spiritual leaders, too, and to psychics and mediums and healers that, channelers, you know, if it doesn't feel right to you, if something feels off, trust that, go with that. Only work with people that say, you know, that you're listening to and you resonate. You think, oh, this person sounds credible. This person sounds like they're on the up and up. I don't care how many places they've been tested for their psychic abilities. That doesn't mean anything. It's. How are you personally resonating with that individual? Whether you're with them in person or whether you're just listening to them on a podcast or on a. On a show like this, on a network or on a YouTube channel thing. Pay attention to how it feels for you. It don't matter what everybody else thinks. How does it feel to you?
Alex Ferrari
George Carlin had this great joke. The great, the late, great George Carlin, he's like. And he was talking about meat on Fridays.
Julie Ryan
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And he's like, how many people are pissed off for doing time for the meat wrap? I mean, now it's. We're cool with it, but all those other poor souls that went down to hell. So there's so many holes in the, in the story. In the plot of what? The story that, that the church had given us over the years.
Julie Ryan
Well, commit adultery was just for women. It wasn't for the men. The men had a bunch of wives and the w. The cattle was worth more than the wife was. So it was just. I think we need to keep our discernment about ourselves. And I love that you're putting these documentaries on your network that really look at the scholars that have studied this stuff, and we're saying, okay, well, those pieces of the puzzle don't go together. But it's just. You hear it enough, you just believe it, and then it's repeated throughout the millennia, and then it just becomes something that's. That's so called truth, when in essence, it's not.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, I could talk for hours. One of my favorite. My favorite topics is to talk about the original. The original ideas of Christ and what happened to it, from the Gnostics to the Rosha Crucians and. And then of course, the Council of Nicaea and all the other councils that built the story. And why did some books get lost and reincarnation wasn't there? But then we had to pull that out and all this stuff and the story of Paul. And when I discovered it was Aaron Apke who came on the show and he introduced me to this idea, I never even thought. Thought of Paul. I always thought same thing. I always thought Paul was an apostle. Paul was never an apostle, never met Jesus.
Julie Ryan
Yeah, right.
Alex Ferrari
But most people don't know that because after it was over 100. It was over 100 years after he died. It was. It was fascinating in, in that whole idea. And who. And, and, and I think Aaron said this so beautifully once. He said that no one ever leaves Christianity because of Jesus's teachings. And I was like, whoa, that's so true. They leave because of Paul, because Paul's the one that put all the dogma in Paul is to put all that, all that, all them, all them, all the pudding. He's the one that put it in. And if it wasn't Paul, it was his. His disciple. Between the two of them, I think they wrote 60 to 70% of the New Testament between the two of them, and they never met Jesus, you know, so it's just fascinating. Fascinating to Go down these roads. Julie, before we go, I have to ask you because you're a psychic and all the world is getting crazier. It seems like we are amplifying every year from 2020 on. Every year has gotten more insane in the next. This year is no, no different from 2026. The beginning of 2026. Every month has been like, are, it's just, what, what, what date is it? How much stuff has happened? We've got, we've gone into. So now we're, you know, the wars are happening in the Middle East. You know, the top thing that's trending is World War III coming up. You know, people are scared. People are, you know, really trying to figure out what's going on. And we're just talking about the political and the world wars and things that the wars are going around in the world. But there's so many other things, you know, from the economy. Gold being at like $5,000 an ounce, right? It was, it was 150 when I was in high school. It's gone insane. So so many different things seem to be going on with AI and, and food and people starting to wake up to what's happening with the food in the world and the food supply and governments and companies and all of this stuff. What do you see, my dear, for the rest of 2026 and the next few years after is when are we going to be over the hump of this insanity?
Julie Ryan
Well, certainly we're shattering a lot of the old and you've got to shatter in order for new things to come in. I had a girlfriend who when I was in my 20s, was in her 40s, and I love this analogy and I think it pertains to this conversation. She said, that guy you're dating, he's Kool Aid. And it's like, okay. She goes, Kool Aid, you know, smells good, looks good, tastes good, cheap. You can easily accessible. How do you expect God to fill your bucket with champagne if it's full of Kool Aid? You gotta empty the Kool Aid first.
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.
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Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey. How's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Julie Ryan
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
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And now back to the show.
Julie Ryan
So in the. Isn't that great in this.
Alex Ferrari
That's amazing. That's a great analogy.
Julie Ryan
In the same vein, we've got to shatter the old ways. What's not working? You know, what, where. Where are people being persecuted? Where are things, you know, where can we make them better in order for the new to come in? I also am witnessing the zeitgeist changing very much in that people are becoming, and we talked about this earlier in this conversation, people are becoming way more spiritual in their everyday lives. Whether they blend that with organized religion or meditation or whatever. It's amazing to me the people that are my clients. I have Fortune 500 executives that run publicly traded massive corporations. I've got housewives. I've got people from all walks of life. And to what we discussed earlier as well, I think a lot of the people that are dying off that didn't have any room for this. Their Their offspring, their spawn, if you will, are all. They're. They're engaging in this. Anybody that I talk to, when they hear I'm a psychic medium and a medical intuitive, they'll go, oh, well, you got to prove it to me. And I'll say, well, no, really, I don't. I can talk to you about whatever you'd like. You want to talk about football, the weather, latest greatest restaurant, whatever. They'll say, no, no, no, no. I want to. I want to hear, what are you doing? So they're interested. Their initial response is, ooh, that's not. That's evil, or that's not good evil. The Bible and all the holy texts are. The angel talk to whoever. You know, Moses is talking from a burning bush. You know, I mean, all these different symbols. Jesus is. Is hearing from God. The Jesus. The gospel last Sunday was about the transfiguration, and Elijah and Moses showed up, and the apostles saw him with Jesus. And I'm going, oh, okay. So spirits are showing up in the Bible and the apostles can see them. You know, I mean, this stuff is all there.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah.
Julie Ryan
It's just a matter of each generation comes in with a higher vibration level. Toddlers know how to use my iPhone better than I do, and they're not even talking in sentences yet. So each generation comes in more advanced. Their frequency is higher. I think the frequency of the world is rising, and I think that people are less tolerant of abuses that have been going on. And we have a 24.7news cycle, and so when it gets to be overwhelming, turn it off. Because the news is. If it bleeds, it leads. It's. It's always going to be. The most horrific story, is going to be the first story, because they get eyeballs to watch the story, to listen to click. And it's all about money. The more eyeballs, the more they can charge for their ads. Their revenue goes up. It's all about the bottom line. So just turn it off and know that everything's expanding and it's. It's all unfolding perfectly, even in the tough times, because there's good that comes out of every situation.
Alex Ferrari
This is obviously going to continue to get a little bit more shaky as we continue to go, because we're not done expanding.
Julie Ryan
I don't think we ever will be.
Alex Ferrari
I know, but you mean, like. But this stage is. In other words, like, we. It can't rain all the time as it can be sunny all the time. Even in Los Angeles, it does rain every once in a while. So even though this Seems like this is a thunderstorm and a storm is. The storms do pass, but they could take a while. And what we're going through right now is a storm. There's no question. We felt it since 2020, really. I mean, it's been going on since 2012. Or even if you want to go as far back as Y2K. You know, great example. You know, we've. You know, the world's been coming in for quite some time now. But. But there's. But it's. Since 2020, it's been visceral, really visceral in the world, and it's been getting more and more intense. So a lot of people are really terrified of where we're all going to go. And a lot of people feel like, oh, my God, is this the end? Are we going to finish it? My take on it, Julie, is that there are guardrails up for us. Yeah, we should have blown ourselves up a thousand different ways in the last hundred years. We've had the technology since the bomb was created. There is moments that we've gotten real close. There's miraculous stories of how we should have. Someone should have touched the button and they didn't, and should have launched the World War iii, but happened to just. There was one dude that said, nope, we're not doing that. Yeah. You know, and so that tells me that there's somebody, something watching us and there are guardrails to protect us. So, like, you guys can play and you could do what you need to do, but you're not going to go past these, These. These lines that we've laid out. And we will make sure that you don't destroy yourselves. Because arguably. What. Seriously? Let me ask you the question. Why haven't we destroyed ourselves yet? What is the real purpose that we have? Because we should have. During the 80s, during the 60s.
Julie Ryan
It goes back to what we've been talking about, Alex. You know, you think of the lady of justice statue, what she's got, she's balanced. You go back to yin and yang, they're balanced. The good, the bad. You go back to everything. The Kabbalah is ancient. All cultures have this. And that's how we create the nuclear energy that's created. It's an explosion that happens. That's when new things are created. And so if we can come up with a way to kind of stay in the middle a little and say, okay, I can see this point and I can see that point, and I understand that we need to have these two different points in order for a New point to come in that's going to benefit everybody. I think it really helps a lot. It helps me with this Iran thing that's going on right now. Yes, it's horrific. And, yes, I have a friend who's Iranian, who's a woman whose family is there. And they are thrilled. And they're thrilled that the persecution of all the women there is over, hopefully, because they haven't been able to go to school, they haven't been able to do a lot of things. She had. She knew somebody who had. I think it's a cousin who had acid thrown in her face because she didn't have her head dress, hijab or whatever they call it on, Right. And the woman is blind in one eye. And so I see both sides of the equation, and I know that good stuff is coming out of it. So I think if we can focus on using our imaginations to envision what we want instead of envisioning what we don't want and suffering over something that we've imagined that isn't even happened or may never happen, that that's just a. It's a more joyful, easier, more productive way to go through life. Use your imagination to envision what you want. And then you have the power of thought and the power of intention, like the power of prayer. There are all kinds of scientific studies that have been run where I had Lynn McTaggart on the show twice, and she's run experiments with some of the best, most prestigious universities in the world, and they have. She calls it the power of eight. And they'll have a group of eight people, and they'll focus on seeds on the other side of the world and some lab someplace. And the seeds that they're focusing on, the C set of seeds, grow bigger, stronger, faster than all the other seeds. That's just one example of the experiments that she's participated in. And so the power of prayer, the power of thought, the power of intention has an energy to it. So focus on what you want instead of stressing over what you don't want and imagining things that you don't want to happen.
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully said, Julie. Beautifully said. So tell me, you have a. You have a school coming up, right?
Julie Ryan
Or a class, Have a training? Yes, it's called angelic attendant training. I do it twice a year. And the next one is going to be online via Zoom. It's a weekend. And I teach the whole buffet of psychicness. So you learn how to do the medical intuition and energy healing, communicate with any spirit. What happens when somebody's dying, how to, how to be able to tell how close to death they are. See the angels and deceased loved ones, spirits that are around them, past lives, remote viewing, all of that. It is such a blast, Alex. And that's going to be May 16th and 17th online. So information@askjuly ryan.com and also anybody that wants a free copy of my angelic attendance book. And this is what happens as somebody's dying. And it comes with illustration illustrations so we show where the angels are positioned and stuff like that. Everybody goes through the 12 phases and we've talked about that on past episodes where if somebody wants to hear more about it, they can watch one of your past episodes when I was on and had the privilege of being on. So anybody wants a free copy, just go to askjuly ryan.com there's a button there you push. We'll send you a free digital and audiobook version. And we have them in Spanish as well if somebody wants that. I think this stuff should be taught in schools.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, I, I agree. And also some of your other books are on Next level Soul TV as well, so people can, if they want to go deep down the Julie Ryan rabbit hole. We have some content there. And one of my favorite books and one of my, one of my favorite books you've written is this one, Angel Messages for Truth, the Two Minute Rule. These, these beautiful children's books you've written. So, so beautifully illustrated.
Julie Ryan
Thank you.
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully done. So they, they should as well. Check those out as well. You were gonna. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.
Tyler Redick
Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and bigger batter and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger. As time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Julie Ryan
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Julie Ryan
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Julie Ryan
I think kid is walking up the slide.
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Julie Ryan
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Julie Ryan
I do have an announcement to make that has. Nobody's heard this yet. We have a phone app coming out the next few weeks. It'll be the Ask Julie Ryan phone app. You'll be able to download it on your phone or on your computer. And as part one of the features, we're going to call it Spirit Chat. And so you upload a one minute video. That's a question for me. And then I'll answer it with a one minute video back to you. So, Alex, you're on the the app and you're going, hey, Julie, my cat's got a, you know, sore left par pa. What's going on? And then I'll, I'll answer you back and I'll say, oh, Alex, I scanned your cat and here's what's happening. So we're really excited about that. Yeah. And lots of other, lots of other stuff on there, too.
Alex Ferrari
That's awesome. That's awesome. Julie, it is always a pleasure having you on the show. We have a couple things that you and I are going to be working on in the future that we're going to be bringing out to next level soul to the audience. So everyone keep, keep an eye out for that and then of course, go to your website and check out everything else you're doing. You're an amazing, amazing person and I love talking to you and I love collaborating with you and I love the work that you're doing. So thank you for everything you're doing to help awaken this, this planet. So thank you.
Julie Ryan
Same right back at you, little brother. He's my little brother, everybody. You knew that, right? We look a lot alike, don't you think?
Alex Ferrari
I appreciate it. Big Sis, we'll talk soon.
Julie Ryan
Alrighty. Bye. Bye. Bye, everybody.
Alex Ferrari
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.
Tyler Redick
Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey. How's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 2223 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Julie Ryan
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
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Release Date: March 28, 2026
Guest: Julie Ryan (Psychic Medium, Author, Medical Intuitive, “Buffet of Psychicness”)
Host: Alex Ferrari
In this deeply engaging and candid episode, Alex Ferrari welcomes back psychic medium and “cafeteria Catholic” Julie Ryan for a wide-ranging conversation on spirituality, the enduring energy of sacred spaces, spiritual trauma, and navigating modern tumult from both mystical and practical perspectives. The episode flows from Catholicism and energy work to psychic channeling, religious dogma, legendary spiritual teachers, and how collective energy shapes both history and healing.
Julie’s unique perspective as a businesswoman-turned-psychic is on full display as she demystifies the spiritual science behind holy sites, explains what she sees energetically during religious rituals, and shares memorable personal stories that bridge worlds. The conversation also tackles challenging questions about the fallibility of spiritual leaders and the daunting times we all face.
Julie Ryan’s Offerings:
Alex Ferrari’s Platform:
This episode serves as a rich tapestry weaving tradition, skepticism, psychic insight, and a hopeful vision for collective spiritual evolution. It encourages each listener to honor what resonates in their journey—whether in ancient rituals, personal awakenings, or the storm of the modern world—while emphasizing that sacred energy, intention, and connection to the divine are available to all, in every tradition.
“Pay attention to how it feels for you. It doesn’t matter what everybody else thinks. How does it feel to you?” – Julie Ryan [76:18]