FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: CHANNELED Mary Magdalene REVEALS Truth About Her RELATIONSHIP with Jesus with Wendy Rose Williams

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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode: FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: CHANNELED Mary Magdalene REVEALS Truth About Her RELATIONSHIP with Jesus
Guest: Wendy Rose Williams
Date: January 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Next Level Soul Podcast dives into the mystical and often misunderstood legacy of Mary Magdalene—channeled live by Wendy Rose Williams. Host Alex Ferrari offers Wendy the platform to illuminate her spiritual awakening, the experience of discovering a soul contract as Mary Magdalene, and her channeling of three powerful Ascended Masters: Mary Magdalene, Yeshua (Jesus), and Mother Mary. The heart of the episode is a direct channeled Q&A with Mary Magdalene herself, revealing new insights into her relationship with Jesus, her unique life story, and previously obscured truths about her role in the early Christian movement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wendy’s Spiritual Awakening & Channeling Journey

• Before Channeling (04:25-08:30)
  • Wendy lived a typical, busy life as a working and single mother.
  • Her spiritual gifts emerged unexpectedly, primarily through contact with healers and intuitives who recognized her past life as Mary Magdalene.
  • “It was about six years later, when my daughters were 12 and 14 … I did not expect the channeling." (04:25, Wendy)
• Awareness of Past Lives (04:25-10:13)
  • She resisted identifying with the Magdalene past life due to the heaviness, societal stigma, and personal fears rooted in historical persecution for spiritual work.
  • “I was the opposite. I was the shrinking violet from it. … A lot of history of me not wanting to speak up.” (08:31, Wendy)
• Channeling Preparation & Healing (10:21-17:34)
  • Underwent formal training—primarily focused on ego balancing and healing trauma from previous lifetimes.
  • Process took 1.5 to 2 years, emphasizing self-confidence and inner healing.
  • “You need to be healing and releasing the things that don’t serve you anymore. … You want to bring through as pure an essence as you can.” (23:01, Wendy)

2. Experiencing & Embodying Channeling

• Going Public & Subtle Emergence (17:34-22:43)
  • Wendy’s transition to public channeling was gentle and organic, without major announcements.
  • She experienced physical signs when channeling various entities—e.g., a single tear for Mother Mary.
  • Notably, she recalls a humorous “tug-of-war” between Magdalene and Archangel Gabriel over who would speak on a live radio show.
• Physical & Energy Preparation (23:01-23:43)
  • Described the need to upgrade her own “circuitry” to safely channel higher energies, likened to moving from a 30-amp breaker to 200-amp capacity.

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3. Channeled Q&A with “Mary Magdalene”

Introduction

• Channeled Entry (24:37):
  • “I am here. This is Mary, Alex. I’m so happy to speak with you. What would you like to speak about?”

A. Setting the Record Straight about Her Life and Identity

Timestamps: 27:29–32:01

• Biggest Misconception:
  • “I became Yeshua’s wife and the mother to two of his children. I also was married previously and had known Yeshua since childhood. … It was a dream come true that we were able to marry and have some wonderful years together, despite the harsh ending.” (27:29, channeling Mary Magdalene)
• Mission & Family Focus:
  • Her life was centered on relationships and family, not politics or scandal.
  • Had to keep many aspects of her relationship secret for safety and due to societal norms.

B. Spiritual Journey with Yeshua (Jesus)

Timestamps: 29:13–36:40

• Training & Sacred Partnership:
  • Both Mary and Yeshua underwent extensive spiritual training (she in the Temple of Isis, he in Egypt, India, and elsewhere).
  • Reunited in Egypt before returning home; journey was marked by both shared mission and extreme hardship.
• Role in Ministry & Misconceptions:
  • “In many ways, yes, the disciples, the apostles were important, but don’t forget they had most of them had full time jobs … I was with the man who became my husband the most.” (32:14, Mary Magdalene)
  • She was the primary supporter (financially and spiritually), erroneously later slandered as a prostitute.

C. Suppression & Manipulation by Early Church

Timestamps: 32:14–36:40

• Purposeful Erasure:
  • “Let’s set the record straight. Mary Magdalene was not a repentant whore. That is incorrect information … as part of blaming the divine feminine. When the men worked to muscle the women out after Yeshua’s crucifixion … they were defamed.” (34:28, Mary Magdalene)
• Surviving Danger:
  • Lived in oppressive times; keeping her identity as Jesus’s wife secret was for survival.

D. Family, Healing Work, & Community

Timestamps: 42:39–47:50

• Family Dynamics:
  • Describes how she and Yeshua worked together in public healing sessions—she handled intake and prepped women and children for his healings.
  • Day-to-day family life was warm and full, contrary to the overly dramatized or sanitized biblical stories.
  • “There was some absolutely delightful everyday family life … happiest relationships in a body.” (45:44, Mary Magdalene)
• Tragedies & Violence:
  • Recounts John the Baptist’s death and the delivery of his head as an attempt to intimidate her.
  • “They then brought me—I'm his widow, I'm pregnant—his head in a basket. … Horrifying. … The fact that they're trying to scare you that much means you've got some power.” (47:54, Mary Magdalene)
• Symbolism:
  • Crystal skulls in Mary Magdalene iconography often refer to John the Baptist’s head, not to occultism as sometimes suggested.

E. Guidance, Christ Consciousness, and the Divine Feminine

Timestamps: 49:50–56:53

• Divine Guidance:
  • Jesus/Yeshua was guided by his direct connection to the Divine (God) and supported by Mother Mary (his birth was a result of divine conception).
  • “Yeshua heard his father. He heard his divine father. … He came in to deliver a very beautiful, very simple message: God is love.” (52:28, Mary Magdalene)
• Suppression of the Feminine:
  • Early organized religion erased the feminine, suppressed Gnostic/Gospel accounts, and constructed false narratives out of fear of the true message’s power.
  • “Religion is man-made … Yeshua said about what he accomplished, any of us can do.” (54:58, Mary Magdalene)

F. Final Channeled Guidance: Preparing for Modern Challenges

Timestamps: 57:04–68:06

• Universal Message:
  • “Love one another, be very kind to yourself … remember that love is the antidote to fear. It is not courage.” (57:04, Mary Magdalene)
• Practical Guidance:
  • Advocates for basic emergency preparedness—not from fear, but from proactive care.
  • Promotes growing food, community bartering, and resilience in light of possible future disruptions (power grid fragility, banking issues, geopolitics, and climate change).
  • “Do things like that to be as self-sufficient as you can. But again, do it from a place of joy … I do think you will likely reach a time when some barter may be needed.” (57:04–62:59, Mary Magdalene)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Accepting Her Spiritual Past:
  “It was about six years later, when my daughters were 12 and 14, and I did not expect the channeling, the way the channeling arose. … What a privilege. What a pleasure.” (04:25, Wendy)
• Channeling the Ascended Masters:
  “I was meant to be a channel for three different ascended masters … Mary Magdalene, Yeshua Ben Joseph, and Mother Mary.” (07:18, Wendy)
• Mary Magdalene Addresses Modern Listeners:
  “The biggest misconception is … I became Yeshua’s wife and the mother to two of his children. … It was a dream come true that we were able to marry and have some wonderful years together, despite the harsh ending.” (27:29, Mary Magdalene via Wendy)
• On the True Nature of Jesus:
  “He never forgot who he was. He came in as—you'd use the term avatar—and came in with just full knowledge of who he was as a soul.” (32:30, Mary Magdalene)
• On Healing and Service:
  “I personally, I believe Yeshua was the greatest healer that’s ever walked the earth … but the person has to be ready to heal or it’s not going to work.” (42:39, Mary Magdalene)
• On Love vs. Fear:
  “Love is the antidote to fear. It is not courage.” (57:04, Mary Magdalene)
• On Modern Preparation:
  “Just try and have it be as fun an exercise as possible, and then just let go. … Just say, ‘I’ve done everything I can to prepare. I'm good now.’” (68:06, Mary Magdalene)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Wendy’s Awakening Journey: 04:25–10:13
• Channel Training & Ego Work: 10:21–17:34
• Physical Experience of Channeling: 17:34–22:43
• Channeled Q&A Begins: 24:37
• Mary Magdalene Sets the Record Straight: 27:29
• Spiritual & Family Life with Yeshua: 29:13–47:50
• Symbolism and True Role of Magdalene: 47:54
• Divine Feminine Suppression: 54:58
• Modern Guidance & Preparedness: 57:04–68:06
• Gratitude & Closing Reflections: 68:15–78:51

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Episode Tone & Language

• Tone is warm, candid, and at times playful (references to hockey, “River God” jokes), balanced with moments of deep spiritual gravity.
• Wendy and Alex’s mutual respect and gentle curiosity create an open space for personal confession and subtle humor, even amidst serious mystical revelations.
• Channeling sequences with "Mary Magdalene" are calm, direct, loving, and occasionally feisty—emphasizing compassion, straightforward truth-telling, and practical wisdom.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode takes listeners on an intimate journey from Wendy Rose Williams’ real-life challenges stepping into her soul’s calling, through her disciplined training as a spiritual channel, to the channeled presence of Mary Magdalene herself. Mary Magdalene presents herself not as the scandalized figure of church tradition, but as a devoted wife, mother, spiritual leader, and the backbone of Jesus’s grassroots ministry—asserting her place as the “13th apostle.” Her story, as channeled by Wendy, is one of lost and rediscovered truth, deep love, hidden power, and fierce commitment to the message that “God is love.” The episode closes with practical, forward-thinking advice for living courageously and compassionately in the present day, reminding us all that preparedness and self-care, like faith, are best rooted in joy and service—not in fear.

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Transcript

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[Alex Ferrari]

Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists, and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion, a space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your next level soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv. Our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion Wendy Rose Williams. How you doing, Wendy?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

I'm doing great.

[Alex Ferrari]

How are you?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Thanks for having me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Alex, thank you so much for coming back on the show. I think the last time we spoke, I said, though, you had so much to talk about that we couldn't. We couldn't do it all in just one conversation. And. And you did so many different things that this channel we're going to be talking about, specifically all your. This conversation, we're going to talk about your channeling and everything that we do in channeling. So my first question is, what was your life like before the channeling? Before that, that that world opened up.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

To you before the channeling. And I came to that quite reluctantly, as I think a lot of individuals do. We have to be pushed and pushed and shoved into the right direction at times. It's quite interesting. How can we resist? But before the spiritual awakening, before I agreed to channel, which came a couple years later, just conservative, everyday, average life, very busy working mother and then a very busy single mother. Our daughters were only 6 and 8 when we divorced, so there just was a lot going on. I was not expecting the spiritual awakening that came up. It was about six years later, when my daughters were 12 and 14, and I did not expect the channeling, the way the channeling arose. And to find that there was a soul contract that I'D agreed to do this and I was going, what surprise. But when you think about it, aren't some of the things that are the most wonderful in life? It might be a shock at first, but as we settle into it, it can be like, oh, my goodness, what a, what a privilege. What a pleasure. As I got further into it. So what happens specifically? Multiple people, wonderful healers, psychics, intuitives, people that I hadn't known before, were starting to come up to me and to say, do you need help? I know you've got a massive past life release going on. I know you don't want to perhaps accept or talk about who you were, but can I help you? I'm here to help you. And these were people I barely knew some of them. It was literally the first meeting with them. And what they were trying to help me with was my past life as Mary Magdalene. That was not a life I wanted to accept or step into. And I'm, I'm a bit chagrined at this point now that it's been about 10 years, and then about two years into that process of slowly accepting, yes, I do have this past life and this makes so much more sense in so many things. And I was just healing by leaps and bounds as I was stepping to the plate and saying, yes, this is what happened. And then what started coming up was a spiritual teacher I was working with at the time. She asked me as gently as possible, do you know that you're meant to be a channel for three different ascended masters? And I'm looking at her like, whoa, that sounds like the advanced curriculum. I do not remember signing up for that. But again, it made perfect sense. It's Mary Magdalene. It's Yeshua Ben Joseph and its mother, Mary and I. Then Alex, I so wanted to do it right. It's like, this is not some obscure river God who I would still want to channel accurately and well. But I thought, this one just has a load to it for me of really needing to get it right. So what I did was I went and took formal channeling classes and I went slowly with them. I took my time with it and it was about a two year process. Channeling classes were nothing like I thought they would be. The training was a big surprise because I thought it would be kind of like a, like, like how doctors train other doctors. I thought it would be kind of like the channeler would show me one, me through one, have me do one critique one. Took us about a year and a half to get to that. Do you know what we Worked on for the first year, year and a half, what balancing my ego. And that makes perfect sense in hindsight because how else can you be a clear channel if you haven't done your own work and haven't centered yourself?

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

And what came up for me was atypical. A lot of times people have a little bit perhaps too much excitement and want the glory and want the publicity around it perhaps. And you know, speaking in generalities here, I was the opposite. I was the shrinking violet from it. And I didn't have quite enough healthy ego in the sense of solar plexus being really balanced and having that self confidence, that self respect for it just to be natural. And that's where we had to get me. That's where we had to get me to and just balance those ego lessons. And we released a whole bunch of past lives along the way of why I was so reticent to speak from having been harmed or threatened or having had my family harmed or threatened for it before, from channeling, from being a prophet, from being an advisor to, you know, kings and wealthy individuals and a lot of that off with their head energy. If they a either didn't like the message. There was so much shoot the messenger in the old days and just, you know, blaming when they didn't like the message or energy changes constantly. And you can do your very best to forecast, okay, here's where I think you should put the troops for what's going on in this battle. And here's what I think you need to do to protect your lands and to win this war. And when that prophecy wasn't always correct, you know, that that could be the end of things. So there was just a lot of history of me not wanting to speak up.

[Alex Ferrari]

So this was not a thing that all of a sudden was going to thrust upon you. You were actively courting this ability, courting this channel.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

It took me a while to get there. I tried to deny it, I tried to shrink from it. And that caused a lot of health problems. And I started to realize, okay, there's a correlation here. And when we don't embrace the life that we're meant to be living and when we're not on our path, we very often end up with health problems, financial problems, relationship problems, and just have to really look at what do I need to be doing differently. Is there something I'm avoiding here? Is there something I'm doing too much of? Is are there places I'm not stepping to the plate? And also there was a lot of there used to be. I think channeling has become so much more accepted, even the last two years, the last five years. It's become so much more accepted and understood because we used to be burned at the stake for it, you know, we used to be imprisoned for it. And because I have such a deep, deep active memory of my past lives, it was tripping me up. So. And you have to remember that was then, this is now. You've got to be mindful, you've got to be in the moment. And look at the reality was no one was threatening me. I was just scaring myself.

[Alex Ferrari]

Generally, the way it works in life, we do, we're our worst enemy.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Was it Roosevelt who said there's nothing to fear but fear itself? Yeah, and it's very true. We, we create that construct of we know what's going to most terrify us. That's why if you read a well done suspense book or horror or thriller, you're filling in what scares you the most. That's why it's always more effective and more terrifying than whatever's put on the screen, at least for me, because the screen is someone else's best depiction. But you know, you don't, you don't know what's going to really make someone else have to deal with their own stuff.

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[Wendy Rose Williams]

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Wendy Rose Williams]

Imagine away because the person will fill in something more terrifying, perfect, much worse.

[Alex Ferrari]

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And now back to the show. How did you process it? Because this is not an easy thing to process when you start hearing either voices in your head or channeling these kind of energies through you. There has to be an acclimation period as well, I imagine.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

There definitely was and I was fortunate to take. I was. Actually this is quite unusual. The spiritual teacher was kind enough. She knew my budget was super tight and to do the one on one classes with her was beyond my budget and she kindly let me. I had a very close friend at the time who was at the same point of being reticent to step forward with her channeling abilities and so we actually became a group class of two for most of the classes. Yes, we had to do some private work too because of Things that just came up that were so personal. But that's where my River God little joke came from, because my friend was channeling St. Francis, which made perfect sense because she's an animal communicator and animal healer, and she was also channeling this obscure River God. So the moment we found out who we don't both agreed to channel, I just looked right at her and I'm like, can I trade Jesus for the obscure River God?

[Alex Ferrari]

It's less pressure, less pressure, less pressure.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

And we just all burst out laughing. It's like how soul contracts work. And it just makes such perfect sense. And it's so natural because Yeshua is with Mary Magdalene, the ascended Master. With Mother Mary, the ascended, they just come in so naturally as a family. And you just have to. You just have to put aside, you know, anything else and just say that this is family. I've been part of this family. It's the most natural thing in the world.

[Alex Ferrari]

And what. And then when you finally got accustomed to the whole channeling thing and, and decided to go public with it, what was the reaction of your friends, family, people around you?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

It was, it was, it was a very quiet thing. There wasn't this big public splash, it wasn't this big announcement. I simply just started doing it naturally because sometimes I could feel them wanting to come in. And they have such wisdom, they have such love, such compassion. The Ascended Masters are amazing. And just sometimes. So it wasn't like, go off and meditate for an hour and a half, make sure I can vibrate off the bed to be able to give them that. It would just pop right out of my mouth. And Mother Mary, she has a particular energy sign I can feel. I can tell the three of them apart. Of course, we've each got a unique energy signature, but because their vibration is so high, with Mother Mary especially, I'll just get. One single tear will just roll down from my right eye. And that's just, that's just the way she arrives with me. And Mary Magdalene, I feel her put this beautiful mantle like a cloak over me. And Yeshua just. He is such a unique, gentle, yet powerful, approachable. I just can't describe. His energy just makes me smile from ear to ear. And I always know when it's. When it's him. So it just, it just, it wasn't like a lion roaring all. It was more like a mouse squeaking. It was, you know, in very, very small, subtle ways. Eventually, I did put it on my website that I offered sessions with Magdalene, but because I still had some inner healing work to do. Very few people asked for them. And that. That was a reflection of me because I wasn't quite. I wasn't quite comfortable and confident with it. And then it did get to the point where people would just ask me in general conversation, friends that knew, and they would say, wendy, it feels like Magdalene's here. Or could you please ask Magdalene and can you just tell us right now, mean that person individually? Or there'd be a small group of us in person, either face to face or phone to phone. And I would just tune in and do that. And then I did start on a couple of zoom calls on podcasts. So bit by bit, and I did have one really funny, funny experience. I hosted a traditional radio show for a while on KKNW 11:50am, which is Seattle's alternative talk radio. And one particular show that. And I would always go through a pretty big prep to get ready to be on air. And I was channeling Magdalene. And when I channel Magdalene, I don't. I partially. I raise my vibration, she lowers hers, and I partially leave my body. Sometimes it's a fully unconscious because there's different levels of channeling. But I would then have to kind of wait on pins and needles to hear the radio show because I didn't know what I'd said because it was Magdalene. But this one certain day, the topic was sacred sexuality. And I had this great friend who was a PhD and just a great person who was a sexologist. And she was going to be the topic or was going to be the guest that day. And I got to the radio and she was down in California. I'm in Seattle. I get to the radio state, and I could feel this weird. I'm like, why is my throat so choked up? What is going on? I knew Archangel Gabriel was with me. I knew Mary Magdalene was with me. Well, they were duking it out of who was going to. To speak that day. It was hysterical because usually it was just Magdalene. But I do work with Archangel Gabriel a lot, just being over communication. And so I'm sitting there with the producer and all that equipment in, you know, a big radio station, and he announces me to go on air. And I'm like, I, like, can't get anything out. So I'm like holding my script up to him of what I was going to say first. And he just seamlessly kind of stepped in and said the first sentence or two. And I'm in my mind saying, whatever's going on, work it out now, right? The show must Go on. Words.

[Alex Ferrari]

The show, the show must, must go on.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

And I downed like almost a whole huge water bottle trying to, like, clear my throat. It was just the funniest. And then I did speak with my spiritual teacher afterwards. I said, what happened? She said, oh, that's fascinating. It was, it was the two of them, they're like, I want to speak. I want to speak.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, let me ask you, because you were speaking about energy and them coming into your body, and I've heard this from other channels that I'm assuming that you had to prepare the body to receive this kind of energy, because if not, it's kind of like blowing a circuit. Like you couldn't handle the voltage, if you will.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

You.

[Alex Ferrari]

So that year and a half, two years you were kind of building.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

That is a fabulous question. You're exactly right. And that was the work we were doing. Doing. We're working to upgrade my circuitry. It's like being a little old 30amp generator. And now you need to be a 200amperage for the full house.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

So that's exactly it. So you need to be healing and releasing the things that don't serve you anymore. You need to be working on your health and your body, you know, in any and all ways and just, just preparing because you want to bring through as pure an essence as you can. And their vibration is simply much higher.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it's. It's. Yeah, exactly. Well, let me ask you, do you think Mary Magdalene would like to come in and, and talk a little bit?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Absolutely. She's been planning it since. Since you broached that possibility when we last spoke a couple weeks ago. So absolutely, yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, great. I would love to have it. And how do you. And for everybody watching, how do you come in and how do you go out?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Sure. So what you're going to see me do, you're going to see me just close my eyes. You're going to see me just kind of settle down and ground my energy and you're going to see me. Just ask her. You may hear me muttering a little bit as I ask her to come in and ask her to be a clear channel. I will do it. Eyes closed. So just so you can make that distinction to know it's her speaking, she usually comes in and she'll simply say, I'm here, or this is Mary or this is Magdalene. She'll usually just say one of those three things. So we'll see if that's what she does today.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, thank you.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

So let's get started. Grounding my energy, centering myself, inviting in ascended Master Mary Magdalene, I am here. This is Mary Alex. I'm so happy to speak with you. What would you like to speak about?

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you so much for doing this, Mary. My first question to you is what is the biggest misconception about your life? That you would like to set the record straight? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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I so appreciate that question. Thank you. The biggest misconception Is was what my identity was. I was fortunate to be a beloved daughter and sister and friend and wife and aunt and sister in law. In many ways, that wonderful life for me was about the familial relationships. I didn't really care very much to get involved with the politics. We lived in very dangerous times in which a large portion of our population was enslaved. But my role, simply put, was I became Yeshua's wife and the mother to two of his children. I also was married previously and I had known Yeshua since, since childhood. So it was a dream come true that we were able to, to marry and to have some wonderful years together, despite the harsh ending.

[Alex Ferrari]

During, during Joshua's growth to become a walking master. What. When did you actually begin to walk the path with him in the spiritual journey that he was on and where did, where did he go? Where did you go during that, essentially those 30 years that he was gone from the book?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Fantastic question. Yes, we. I went to the. I was. My. My parents died when I was quite young and my older sister Marta and my older brother Lazarus took over, took over raising me in our family home. And we were neighbors to the Ben Joseph. So Mother Mary, Jesus's mother, Yeshua's mother also took over. She's here at that single tear going down the right eye. She took over helping also raise me and mother me. I opened my Kundalini incredibly young in that age, in that lifetime. And Mother Mary had a relationship with the Temple of Isis at Philae in Egypt. So the decision was made with my agreement and with my older brother and sister agreeing that I should go study at the temple of Isis. So I was there from the ages of about 9 to 19. Yeshua and I had already made our agreement that we planned to marry when we were adults. When we had finished our training, we both were very clear that we needed to part and that he would need to go do extensive training. He trained in India, he trained in Egypt, he trained many, many places to be able to do the magnificent work that he did. We reunited when I was 19 and I was gathering. It was my day. It was my turn to go gather the water from the well right outside the temple. And he was studying at one of the Egyptian temples for men. So we had our surprise reunion. Outside of that well, we had not seen one another in 10 years. And we agreed at that time, yes, we still want to marry, but we need to wrap things up in a tidy way. So I gave notice and was replaced at the Temple of Isis and had to work my way Home. And don't forget, we're not just jumping on planes 2,000 years ago. So had to work my way home, he had to do the same. And when we were both back home, things went in a very different direction. But I'll stop at that point. Is that, is that clear? Is that making sense? Questions to that?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. What was the, what were the biggest challenges with your spiritual journey as you walked it, both for you and Joshua?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

The biggest challenge for me was how to balance having a normal life in such extraordinary times with such an extraordinary mission. I was quite psychic. Yeshua certainly was and Mother Mary was incredible. So it really was the three of us working to hold the energy for his mission. In many ways, yes, yes, the disciples, the apostles were important, but don't forget they had, most of them had full time jobs, most of them were working to eke out a living as fishermen and had wives and children to support. So they were not with Yeshua nearly as regularly as I was. And I do say thank you to the Catholic Church and to the Pope for having officially named me the 13th apostle, because that is absolutely what I was. And I was with the man who became my husband the most and just was picking up the most of the, of his teachings and his, his, his knowledge. He never forgot who he was. He came in as you'd use the term avatar I think nowadays, and came in with just full knowledge of who he was as a soul. But it was very difficult to balance because we had this very grassroots walking ministry, very hand to mouth in some ways of who would be able to house us when we were on the road, who would be able to offer a meal, those sorts of things. And that's where the misconceptions started coming up as to my identity because it was not typical, it was quite frowned upon for a young, supposedly single woman to be traveling with a group of, of frankly quite rough looking men. Showering was not always at the top of our list. And it just, you know, you got bathed when you could. And for me to be on the road with them in that traveling ministry, I had the good fortune to have family money. He did not. So who do you think was funding most of that ministry? So that was another misperception is people didn't understand why and how I could have money. Well, it was simply from my parents. It's just that simple. It was nothing to do with prostitution. And that's really quite a hurtful, rude allegation to imply that that's the way That a woman is earning her living, that is not. Let's set the record straight. Mary Magdalene was not a repentant whore. That is incorrect information that was dumped on her as part of blaming the divine feminine. When the men worked to muscle the women out after Yeshua's crucifixion, after his death and anyone who's played hockey, you know what a good hip check is, you know what a good elbow check is. Wendy's Canadian. So hockey comes to our brain sometimes. And that's what was done to the women. They were just shoved aside, but they were defamed. So. And in my identity as Yisroel's wife, I'd agreed it needed to be kept secret. It was for my own safety and protection. We knew we lived in very dangerous times. We knew what might be coming for him, for all of us. We knew the risks we were taking. They were conscious, they were done from love. These were decisions made from love. But they were hard decisions.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you were privy to a lot of the information, a lot of the story that we know of what happened to Joshua and yourself, you and Joshua and Mary all knew what was coming. And we did, preparing we did.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

We'll go back in time a little bit to when I'm picture, picture a 19 year old who cannot wait to marry the love of her life. Go back to that moment coming back from the temple of Isis. And we've agreed Yeshua is a couple years older than me. What was he, about four or five years older than me. And we come back home and we expect to be moving forward with planning our wedding. And instead there's this incredible curveball that comes up. And the Jewish priests were quite concerned that Yeshua was becoming too popular too quickly. They did not think they could control him. And John the Baptist, his cousin, was a very, very capable voice of God also. I mean he was, was channeling and doing some incredible things too. But realize still we're on the fringe of society. We, we are high in rank within our people, but our people are very, very oppressed.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Wendy Rose Williams]

And there's a lot of what's the best word? Okay, this is not a nice word, but it's the most accurate Word, there's a lot of collusion going on between the Jewish priests and between the Roman oppressors. So instead of marrying Yeshua, curveball, I am forced to marry John the Baptist, who I did not want to marry, who did not want to marry me. And that was. I did not see that one coming. Evidently my psychic abilities weren't working on that one. We're not supposed to know everything. And I think, frankly, I would have considered running away. So I did what I was told to do. And it was the most joyless event you've ever seen. And that wedding was an absolute spectacle. There were thousands of people there, but again, no joy in it for either one of neither the bride or the groom. And think of that dynamic, because John was quite aware of who I loved and Yeshua gets to watch me married off to his cousin. It was quite, quite an ordeal.

[Alex Ferrari]

And when you and Joshua were walking those, those that decade, essentially, or over a decade since the meeting when you were 19, what Joshua was still discovering, was he already discovering more and training more to do what he was able to do, or was he already.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Yes and no, he didn't, he didn't travel extensively at that point anymore. He was ready. He. I personally, I believe Yeshua was the greatest healer that's ever walked the earth that said the person has to be ready to heal or it's, or it's not going to work. So he was moving into his ministry in many ways of healing people hands on. Let me tell you how he did that. Because the crowds became so large, people would walk or carry their loved one there for days, so he would not stop until the last person had been tended to. We ran this triage like in a modern day emergency room. I was intake and I was always the first person that they would see and talk to and he was in the back room. And what I was doing honestly was healing many of the women and children in particular, because just the way our society worked, the men wouldn't accept the healing from a woman. So. And I was also getting the person prepared so that they could then go in and have their time with him. And sometimes all it would take was him to ask them a kind question, say a kind word, lay a hand on them, put an arm around them, because I'd already done so much of the work. Sometimes Mother Mary would be with us too, and she and I would be doing the intake and we were actually doing kind of undercover healing work. And then they would go in to see Yeshua and he would, he would do what he could for anyone and everyone. But it was getting to the point where it was depleting all of our energy right to the brink because we were starting to draw crowds of more than hundreds of people. The public speaking was different. That didn't deplete his energy the same way. I think that was more energizing for him to be able to give those wonderful big talks. They were not without risk. And I can tell you what I was doing at those was I was watching the crowd energetically as well as physically and I was working to put protection around him. He of course had his own rituals. But I can tell you Wendy is still a little bit over vigilant today with how she will work to protect people around her. And we've had to do a lot of correcting with her and say that was then, this is now. You don't need to be doing that anymore because it depletes her energy.

[Alex Ferrari]

Fair enough. Now is. Is there any. What is the one thing that you think that most people misunderstood about both yourself and Joshua as they walk the earth?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

That there was some absolutely delightful everyday family life. I had my two older siblings, as I said, I have remit them in this lifetime as Wendy, which is amazing. I have remit both of my parents from that lifetime. And the friend I mentioned who Wendy trained with for the channeling, she was Yeshua's youngest sister. So we have met many people from that play run, so to speak, from that timeline, from that lifetime have remet in this lifetime. And it was. It was the family and friends piece of what we all come here for, of just the happiest, just those happy relationships in. In a body.

[Alex Ferrari]

So there was as I imagine that from the scriptures, it was all business. And I'd imagine that it's. There was day to day.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Exactly, exactly. But the day to day, you know, it's not as. It's not as fun to report on. It's not. It's not as historical record to report on. But I think that's the missing part. Having those three children. I had a son by John the Baptist. John had already been killed at that time. And that was very incredibly traumatic and upsetting for all of us of how quickly that happened and that again they tried to blame on Salome. Salome was one of my best friends for having done this tantalizing dance and having asked for his head on a platter. What a bunch of bs. That makes absolutely zero sense. It is not what happened. Just John was getting too powerful so they killed him. I think that's a simple explanation.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's kind of what they did at those times. That's, that's what happened to Joshua.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Exactly. What you may not know is they then brought me, I'm his widow, I'm pregnant. They bring me his head in a basket. That's lovely. To try and intimidate me and tell me to stand down, back down, be quiet, just, you know, be under their thumb. And it was horrifying. It was absolutely terrifying. But luckily when they were gone, my common sense came in and my guides came in and said the fact that they're trying to scare you that much means you've got some power. You just need to be very quiet about it. You need to center yourself, be very clear who you are and just keep asking for your divine guidance. So the portraits, the famous oil paintings by several masters of Mary Magdalene showing her with a crystal skull that are trying to imply she's practicing some sort of occult witchcraft or whatever. That crystal skull is actually the head of John the Baptist and that is him kind of trying to, you know, go all in energetically and you know, I've passed on now. Magdalene. Yeshua, let me help you. So that's, you know, that's, that's what those oil paintings are really about. That I don't think a lot of people know.

[Alex Ferrari]

So many people that I've spoken to in, in this show would have near death experiences and spiritual awakenings. They always credit Jesus or Jeshua to be there to help them, to guide them through the process. Who was there for Joshua and guiding him during his lifetime.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

When he was passing on the cross or in general?

[Alex Ferrari]

In general. And, and both actually. Like who?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

Who guided him through this? Through the process? Yes.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

In general.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Wendy Rose Williams]

Yeshua heard. He heard his father. He heard his divine father. He heard God at a level I don't think anyone ever had. And he came in to deliver a very beautiful, very simple message. God is love. That was simply his ministry to just feel that love, accept that love. To be loved, to be loving and kind to one another. It's why he healed animals right and left left, not just people. And I mean that really was, was was his ministry. So certainly that was going on his his physical parents Mother Mary and she was a virgin birth because she was able to just like his grandmother, Grandmother of Anna. We're talking generations of women who knew how to raise their vibration to such a high level that the divine spirit could come in and could physically impregnate them. So it's kind of like it does happen in nature. What is that called? A hermaphrodite. I think seahorses do it when there's not enough males or females. They can switch genders so that it's a similar process. Fair enough, but just could raise it's it's all about vibration, it's just all about the energy. And so mother Mary, that is how she was the virgin birth. But thankfully Joseph, you know, was such a amazing helpmate and protector because she was, was shamed because this is not okay to, for a young female to be pregnant in those times and to have no husband, this is, this is a big deal. And so he, he stepped in and played that beautiful role of being Jesus's father. Just like Jesus became my, my son John's father. Because John of course did not remember his father. He was, you know, he was, he was killed before, before he was born. So. And then I did go on to have two daughters with Yeshua. So those three children were just absolutely the light of my life and the light of his life. But we needed to protect the identities.

[Alex Ferrari]

Why do you believe that this story has been suppressed for so many years?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Because there's beauty in it, because there's power in it, because the simplicity in it of God being love and us all being a spark of the divine, this has nothing to do with religion. Religion is man made. This has nothing to do with being Jewish, Catholic, Seventh Day Adventist, name any religion you want. It's nothing to do with that. You don't need a middleman. I'm not saying the churches don't do some wonderful works. They do, but including companionship for people who are disenfranchised and lonely and, and stressed and whatever else can be, you know, finding, finding solace there. So there's community certainly. But I think just what Yeshua said about what he accomplished and did, any of us can do. I think he was referring, without using the term, the Christ consciousness. It's simply an energy and that we could all do what he had done and more. We just have to be able to center ourselves, balance our divine, masculine and feminine, and be kind to ourselves, first of all, loving to ourselves, forgive ourselves and then just emanate that out, you know, be that to everyone around you and get rid of all these nonsense, artificial divisions of countries and governments. And I don't like you because of the color of your skin. I don't like your accent, you know, the color of your eyes. Just ethnic purging. Oh my goodness. It has just gone on for millennia. And we know that the most crime and torture has happened in the name of the church and the Crusades, etc.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very, very true. Do you have does, by the way, since I know Mary and Joshua are with you, do they have anything to say to our audience?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Love one Another, be very kind to yourself and just work to be in the present moment and remember that love is the antidote to fear. It is not courage. Courage is the antidote to, to cowardice. Many people are feeling fear and saying, oh gosh, I need to be more courageous, I need to be braver. And then they're getting more pugilistic based on fear. There's more, there's more fear factor. And so much of the land grabs that go on, so much of the just, just the inhumanity of man against, against man, it's based on fear. There are plenty of resources on this gorgeous planet. There are plenty of ways for, for us all to do well together when everyone is helping one another. And I don't just mean people helping people. Please remember the animals, please remember the trees, the water, the mountains, you know, all the aspects of what, what we're here, we're getting to live on a gracious Mother Earth's body. Let's treat her as the sentient amazing being that she is and know that she's just got to balance her energy, she's got to take care of herself. And we are going to see more, more the words English more. The explosions. When it, when a volcano. The explosion. Explosions, eruptions. Thank you. We are going to see more tsunamis, we're going to see climate change. Climate change must be addressed. It's amazing how you had a vice president in the United States in Al Gore who got it so right and everyone made so much fun of him and just ignored And Covid was a big opportunity for Earth to start to reverse some of the issues that were going on with just too much driving, too much use of gasoline, too much fossil fuels, fracking. I can't even begin to understand what the purpose of fracking is. It's not appropriate. So we've just got to live more gently with, with a lighter, lighter footprint and just simply be more humane to one another. And some challenging times are likely coming. I do not say that to cause fear. I say that to just help you center into yourself, look at the present moment and say, I'm okay, everything's fine. And also there is nothing wrong with doing some emergency type prepping, but this is critical. It can't be done out of fear because that leads to these crazy stockpiling things, that leads to these cults, these just Branch Davidians as an example that, that leads to those types of things. I'm talking about stockpiling your basics of just do it kind of as like a fun exercise. Like if you were going to go be a Boy Scout or a Girl Scout and do some backwoods camping for a month that you've never done before. If you didn't have your fresh, clean water in your house coming through your taps, what would you do? Would it be good to have the life straw? Would it be good to have that filter straw? Would it be good to know how to boil water and purify water? Do you know how to get the water out of your hot water heater? Do you have a clean bucket? What can you do for emergency water supplies? What can you do to grow some of your own food? What can you do to have some first aid supplies? What do you do for warmth if suddenly your power is gone? I do want you to understand the grid in the United States, the power grid, the physical electric grid. It is quite fragile and I don't think everyone understands that especially well. They just take electricity and heat and power and lights totally for granted. It's quite fragile. The system is not up to date. So what do you need to do? Do you need to have a camp stove? Do you need to have a generator or one of those cool new power packs that are only about $200 that you can plug some extension cords into? You know, just, just do things like that to be as self sufficient as you can. But again, do it from a place of joy of I'm taking care of myself, taking care of my family. I'll be able to help take care of some of my neighbors. Because I do think you will likely reach a time when some barter may be needed. I do think there's a moment when some banks may fail, some banks may go down. We're already seeing a little bit of that. Would it behoove you to have some cash on hand in small bills? Would it behoove you to have a big bag of rice and a big bag of beans? You know, if you just need some emergency food and suddenly your fridge and freezer is out, if you can't grow gardens on your property because you're living in an apartment, a condo, or you don't have a green thumb or you have a heavily wooded lot, look into the hydroponic. Wendy's got these neat little things called aerogarden and she grows so much lettuce and herbs right on her kitchen countertop.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

And it's just such fresh food. The nutrition is fabulous. It's no more expensive and it's really fun. And it's a good thing for kids to learn, too. How do you grow food? Why are you not growing more food on the tops of your hospitals, on the tops of your schools, on the tops of your high rises? People in the cities especially who do not have a lot of money, they need food stamps to pay for fresh fruits and vegetables. They don't have transportation and they can't get to that food. You need to be growing it on your cityscape rooftops for people. You need to have beekeeping up there. They're starting to do that in some places in New York City. But you just need to get back to basics because what if your Internet's down? Amazing how that just humbles people. What if your fancy dancy iPhone or Android wasn't working? How are you going to communicate? And again, I don't say this to engender fear. I say this just to encourage some emergency prepping from a place of joy and of providing for yourself and your family and thinking about how you could help those in your neighborhood and they'll have things to help you too. And just there's going to be likely some bartering going on for time periods. I'm not seeing calamities happening everywhere in the world, but I think there will be situations, we've already seen them recently where people were stranded because their credit cards wouldn't work if they were from the Russian banking system because they got locked out once they had done the invasion. So just think old school. Do you know how to start a fire? Do you have a flint? Do you have a way of just. You have to think of your local resources. Because this is a very different conversation for someone living really in a dense city area versus someone living more out in the suburbs or the country. And depending what country you live in. How cold does it get? How hot does it get? What do you have available? There's a Wikipedia that you can look up about the great ice storm of 1998. Because that ice storm that was in the northeast, Canada and the U.S. it lasted for over 30 days. And for people in freezing temperatures to have no power, no heat, it was a big deal. And it's very helpful to study that. And again, just try and have it be as fun an exercise as possible and then just let go. Just say, I've done everything I can to prepare. I'm good now. I'm just going to be confident and I'm just going to ride the wave. Just project and think of the best, you know, the best outcomes and just, just, just plan for that and let everything else go.

[Alex Ferrari]

Mary, thank you so much for this conversation and for all the information and for setting the record straight on so many things. I appreciate you so much. Thank you again.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Thank you. Likewise. This was my absolute pleasure. And thank you for the work that you're doing. Alex. It's very important and we're very pleased that you, you step to the plate so willingly. It's just a big deal with the communications that you do. So we are with you all the time and we'll just continue to help. So thank you. I'm going to just bring Wendy back in and just give her a second to orient here.

[Alex Ferrari]

How are you?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

How are you doing, Wendy?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

I'm just, I'm like, why did I put eyeliner on? Just their vibration is, is so high. It just, I can just, I can just feel the tears. It's like tears of joy to get to, to get to connect.

[Alex Ferrari]

I saw that. I saw that. I saw your tear come down. It was pretty remarkable. Yeah, yeah, that one, that one exactly.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Isn't that interesting? That's just, that's her energy signature for me. Yeah, you can't, you probably, unless you're, unless you're clairvoyant, you probably can't see the, the mantle that Magdalene had put over me. And Yeshua was standing and he had his hand on my, my left shoulder. But some people who view this who are clairvoyant will be able to see. So it'll be fun. It'll be fun for me to look at, look at the recording and see if I can see things around me.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's remarkable. No, it was a very interesting conversation to say the least.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Was she especially feisty or was she nice and clear?

[Alex Ferrari]

She was. No, she slightly feisty. Slightly, slightly feisty. Not too crazy, not too, not too feisty.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Perfect.

[Alex Ferrari]

But it was eye opening. It was an eye opening conversation to.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

See there had to be some backbone to be that individual and to do that, to do that life. I think you asked a question and I'll just answer it as me because I remember it clearly. You asked what was happening as Yeshua was going home. And that was a conscious choice. We all chose. We knew it was coming. That's why we had the Last Supper. We hid out at friends houses to have that amazing last meal together. They were at some risk by letting us all gather there. They were standing guard outside the house. And we chose to go to the Garden of Gethsemane because it was such a beautiful place. We'd been there often and as was the custom, the men went to pray separately from the women. And we knew he would be taken from there. We chose not to resist. It was a conscious choice made out of huge love. And he chose his cousin Judas to betray him. And Judas didn't understand what was going to come. And I want to clear the record for Judas because that became an unfortunate expression. People even say, oh, he's such a Judas, or she's such a Judas. As a betrayer, Jesus needed it to happen. He was choosing to go home in that humiliating, painful public way to try and calm the waters for everyone else so that there would not be huge riots because we were all fearing riots and that many thousands of our people would have been killed. So we were just trying to tamp that energy down and he asked Judas to point him out. Judas was paid a small fee for it and didn't know what, what would happen. Marie wouldn't have been able to do it. Judas committed suicide as a result of just the guilt and the shame over. I want to assage that. I want to let that let go. Judas played a role that was needed. If it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else. And he played his part right. He did it right, fair enough. But it was. It was hard. And when we went to the cross, Mother Mary was on my right as my mother in law, I was on the left. And we were on our knees at his feet. It was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life in any of my lifetimes. We were sending him energy and we had a lot of other people that loved him. We asked them to stay away because it was great public risk to be there. We asked the men especially to stay away because we thought if they even twitch, they're going to be killed. They're going to have more up on the crosses. So Mary and I were just trying to be not threatening and we were just sending love. And we were also, I'll be honest, we were both arguing with him a bit and saying, this doesn't need to be a long, painful spectacle. It typically takes about three days to die on the cross. We were pushing him home, we were shoving him home, we were inviting him and we were doing. We were doing the dance, he and I, and we just lead the way up. And he didn't obviously have the strength or the energy to do it. And I was just leading him up. I definitely got to the point of no return because I didn't want to come back. And Mother Mary pulled me back and rightly said, mary, you've got children. You need to attend to your children. This is not your time to go. She was the most amazing beacon of strength. I could not imagine how a mother can go through that to see their beloved oldest son be crucified. But as I said, it was about a day versus about three days. And there were so many people sending us love and sending us energy. And that's how we did it. And we walked him home. He insisted on going home fully conscious because we were saying to him, dude, just leave your body. We all know how to pop right out of our body. Come on. He's like, no, I am. He was doing the. The Lamb of God. He was asking his father to forgive them, for they know not what they do. He wanted to do things. It was his death, death. And he chose. He chose how to do it. But it was obviously Very, very difficult. And we then had to run for our lives, which we did.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

So we escaped. His uncle was wealthy and had ships and we escaped first up to Egypt. We went and sheltered at the same temple of Isis at Philhe and were taken in there and then went from there. I was close to delivering so it was heavily pregnant and we made our final move to the south of France and a little cottage had been found for me and prepared for me. And that's where I. That's where I lived out my life and had my two. I had my, my son. Sadly my son by John the Baptist had become estranged and he was, was not in my life. So. But I did have my daughter. And then I gave birth, birth to my youngest daughter. So oldest son by John the Baptist and the two youngest daughters, middle child and youngest daughter by Yeshua.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's, I mean, it's amazing. It's really remarkable. Wendy, where can people find out more about you and the work that you're doing?

[Wendy Rose Williams]

At my website. My website is wendyrosewilliams.com and please, you're so welcome to request a complimentary 15 minute phone appointment there. See if I may be of service to you. I'd love to speak with people one on one. Can also check out my podcast I co host with Greg Kirk and it's called Waking Up Spiritually and certainly via the podcast apps or the YouTube which you can also go to waking up spiritually.com and it's a visual, it's a visual podcast like yours, Alex. We choose to do it with PowerPoints. So it's, it's just our, our way of presenting the information that comes in also via Amazon and Audible. Just look for my full name there. Wendy Rose Williams.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wendy, thank you so much for coming on the show again. I appreciate you and the work that you're doing and thank you for sharing, sharing this with us today.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

I appreciate it, my absolute pleasure. And I just want people to know it's all going to be okay. Great. We're all going to be, we're all going to be fine. Certainly some people are passing on all the time. They're going to be. There's so many angels here. There's so many unemployed and underemployed angels because people are not asking for help because they don't believe in it. They don't think they can get it. They don't think they can deserve it. Just be willing to ask for that divine assistance from the angels and why your life change. It is amazing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you again, Wendy. I appreciate you.

[Wendy Rose Williams]

Thank you.

[Alex Ferrari]

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