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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari
FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: MANKIND'S HIDDEN POWER: Advanced & ANCIENT SPIRITUAL Alchemy to CREATE Your REALITY with Emily Fletcher
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In the timeless dance of existence, where spirituality meets the every day, we find ourselves in today's episode welcoming the radiant Emily Fletcher. Emily's journey from Broadway performer to meditation teacher is nothing short of transformative....
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Alex Ferrari
Welcome to the Next Level Soul Podcast where we ask the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my Soul's mission? We attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests on the planet today. I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, before we dive into today's conversation, I want to invite you to experience something truly transformative. Next Level Soul tv Our spiritual streaming platform where seekers from around the world can awaken, heal and expand. We've curated a powerful collection of life changing documentaries, deep dive interviews, original series, audiobooks, courses, masterclasses and and live events all focused on conscious personal transformation, ancient wisdom and the soul's journey. This isn't just content, it's a calling. Whether you're exploring your spiritual gifts, seeking answers from the beyond, or just craving something real in a noisy world, Next Level Soul TV was made just for you. And here's the best part, it's commercial, free, available around the world and growing every week with new soul expanding content. So if you're ready to go deeper, head over to next LevelSoul TV and start streaming your awakening. Now, let's begin today's episode Disclaimer the views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of this show, its host or any of the companies they represent. Now today on the show we have Emily Fletcher who is an expert in, in not only meditation, but finding the path to spirituality through physical touch, through physical actions with another person. In other words, finding spirituality through the sexual energy. And this is a pretty eye opening conversation. It is not for the fainted heart, but I think you guys are really going to enjoy it. It was a beautiful, beautiful conversation. So let's dive in like to welcome to the show Emily Fletcher. How you doing Emily?
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Emily Fletcher
I am excited. I don't know what's in store for us, but I feel like it's going to be big.
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Alex Ferrari
I appreciate that very much. No, I've been a fan of your work for a while. I first, I think I saw you on mindvalley for the first time. That's where I was introduced to your, to your work. And I've always just anyone who talks about meditation, I always love talking to because I'm a big meditator myself and it's, it changed my life and it changes people's lives in general. And it, my very first question is how did you get, how did meditation first influence you both professionally and personally? How did you get into this?
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah, so I have an unlikely journey from Broadway performer to meditation teacher. So I used to sing and dance and act for a living for 10 years. And my last show was A Chorus Line and my job was to understudy three of the lead roles. And just for people who don't know what that means is like you show up to work and you have no idea which job you're going to do. Like imagine you're in accounting and you're like, oh, you know what? Today you're going to go into sales and you're like, but I don't even know what clients to call. And that's sort of like being an understudy. You think you're going to be in the ensemble and then you're the lead or you think you're going to be Judy and then they throw you on for Val. So long story short, very stressful, like very what I would call high demand. And so that led to me going gray in my 20s, getting sick, getting injured, not sleeping through the night for 18 months. I had debilitating insomnia. So here I am on Broadway, living my dream, doing the thing I had wanted to do since I was a child. And I was miserable. And thankfully, this amazing woman was sitting next to me in the dressing room. Her job was harder than me. She was understanding five of the leads and crushing it. Like, every song, every dance, every bite of food that this woman ate was a celebration. And I was like, what do you know that I don't know? And she said, I meditate. To which I rolled my eyes so big, you know, if, like, an eye roll could be. Could have a sound, it would have had a sound. And I didn't believe her. I just kept suck at my job going gray, having insomnia, and then find. Because this was 16 years ago. And so it's hard for people to understand, but 16 years ago, meditation was still considered weird. And so I was very skeptical. And so finally I. It just. It got so bad that I thought, I have to try something. So she said, hey, my teacher's in town. And I went along to this course. And on the first day of my first course, I was in a different state of consciousness than I had ever been in before. And I liked it. And that night, I slept through the night for the first time in 18 months, and I have every night since. And that was 16 years ago. Then I stopped getting sick. I didn't get sick for eight and a half years. I stopped going gray. I stopped getting injured. But the most profound change is that I started enjoying my job again. And I just thought, why isn't everyone doing this? Like, it changed my life personally and professionally so dramatically that I genuinely thought, why isn't everyone doing this? That is not just the title of my podcast. Like, I am the type of person that when I find something that works, I want to shout it from the rooftop tops. So I left Broadway. I went to India. I trained for about three years to become a teacher. So I know in this day and age, people think like, oh, like, I got a yoga certification over the weekend, and. And that's awesome. But this was more akin to getting a PhD in the Vedic sciences. I. It was thousands of hours of apprenticing, about 18 hours a week of very intensive meditation for over a year, transcribing books by hand in Sanskrit, and then helping thousands of people move through this training. And then I graduated, and I started Ziva. And it's been the most Rewarding, exciting, fulfilling thing I've ever done. Yeah. Now I've taught over 50,000 people the Ziva technique, which feels like a real blessing.
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Alex Ferrari
That's amazing. Well, I mean, so this all sounds fantastic, it sounds magical, it sounds wonderful. Can you tell the people exactly what this means? Because a lot of people understand what meditation is and you're like, I meditated, but my life changed. How? What's the pro like? There's a little bit of in between there. What is the process of what happened to you when you meditated? And it seems like you picked onto it pretty quickly where a lot of people fall asleep or a lot of people can't quiet the monkey brain or these kind of things. What are the technical steps that happened when you meditated that do all of these shifts for you in your life?
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah, so that's a great question. So I think a lot of people either don't start because they think they have to be able to clear their minds and they're like, there was no way I could sit still. There's no way I could clear my mind. If I sit still. I think about my ex and my taxes and everything I have to do in my kids soccer practice. And so the thing I want to just start with is that the point of meditation is not to clear the mind. Like I would argue that we meditate to get good at life, not to get good at meditation. That no one actually cares if you're a good meditator. So it doesn't matter actually if you can clear your mind or not. And the other reason that people think they're falling asleep or people think they're failing at it is that honestly they just don't have any training. Like we assume because meditation is simple, that we should already know how to do it. Like, oh, they taught that in 10th grade and I must have been absent that day. So everybody else just secretly already knows how to do this magical skill, but I don't know how to do it. So I'm not going to say anything. I'm just going to sit here and om, or sit here and make fancy fingers in my Lululemons and then be like frustrated. Why I'm not seeing any progress or I'm not seeing this performance enhancement in my life. So the first thing to know is that meditation is a skill. The other thing to know is that all meditations are not created equal. Right? Like they're. Meditation is like the word food. It's a big blanket term that now people use to mean almost anything. Like, oh, I'M doing a drumming meditation. Oh, I'm doing a scrolling through Instagram meditation. I'm. I meditate while I wash my dishes. And it's like, no, that is called washing your dishes. Exercise is called exercise. You know, running is called running, and meditation is called meditation. That's why they have their own words. So I am admittedly a snob. I'm a meditation snob. But I would argue that meditation is a verifiable fourth state of consciousness where you are accessing a unique and repeatable and verifiable brain signature, which is different than waking, sleeping, or dreaming. And specifically, what we're doing in Ziva is that we're accessing this fourth state of consciousness where your body is getting rest that is five times deeper than sleep. And this is a really exciting and important part, because when you give your body the rest that it needs, it knows how to heal itself. And one of the things that it's healing itself from is stress. And where this gets exciting is that specifically with Zeba, you're not just handling your stress from today, you're actually de exciting the nervous system so that you can get rid of all of the accumulated stress from your past, all of the stress that has been storing itself in your cellular memory. That is what comes up and out in this style of meditation. And, and this is actually the secret sauce, because if all you're doing is handling your stress from today, like, oh, traffic was crazy, my boss yelled at me, my kid had a temper tantrum. And then if your meditation practice is only like getting rid of today's stressors, that's fine. That's certainly better than having a shot of tequila. It's better than doing nothing. But if you're not handling the backlog, if you're not getting rid of the stress you've been accumulating from your past, then you're not going to be ushering yourself into higher states consciousness. So if you agree that the point of meditation is to get better at life, then we want to really address the backlog of stresses which is unfortunately making all of us stupid, sick and slow, which people don't like that, but it's true. Stress makes us stupid, sick and slow. And if you would like proof of that, take a look around the species. Right now. We real stressed right now.
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Alex Ferrari
Again, stress when the tiger is chasing you, good. Stress about traffic, not so good. And a constant state of stress that is is, is draining your adrenals, taxing your nervous system, all of these things is so detrimental to our living life. I can tell you from when I started to meditate. When I started to meditate, I mean I started to do deep meditations probably in the hour to three. Hour is my general time. Our hour and a half is generally daily. I try to do that. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. And it just. Just changed my life in a way that is difficult to accept. Explain, though you're much more articulate about it than I am. But it just changed.
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Emily Fletcher
Like, I'd love to know, can you try? Like, can you give us a snapshot? Like, do you remember you the day before you started meditating? And then a snapshot of you now. And that could be anything from, like, how's your sleep? How's your sex? How's your creativity? How's your presence with your family? Like, I would love to know that because I think people think, like, people are so good at judging themselves on what's happening in the chair. Like, oh, that was a deep meditation. That was good. Oh, that was a shallow meditation. That was bad. And I'm like, no, I don't care. I don't care what your time with your eyes closed feels like. I care. How good of a parent are you? How good of a mother or a brother or a sister or a lover are you? Like, how good are you at the things that you say are important to you? And so I would love to know, like, how many years ago did you start meditating?
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Alex Ferrari
Oh, seven, eight years ago.
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Emily Fletcher
Okay, you remember you eight years ago. Like, what was your relationship like with stress versus now?
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Alex Ferrari
Oh, well, yeah. Well, first of all, when I, I tried meditating many, many times over the years, it's something I tried to do, but I could not. I didn't know the training. I didn't know that I didn't have to keep my mind completely blank. That's not, that's not the goal of meditation.
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Emily Fletcher
Impossible.
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Alex Ferrari
It's. It's truly impossible. I mean, you do eventually slip into. If you're. If you go deep enough, you slip into a place where you, You. Your mind is. Is clear, but it's been replaced by something else. It's not your mind anymore. Now you're connecting to another place, a higher level of consciousness. Yeah, exactly. So you fall into those. That blissful place. I've walked out of meditations multiple times, almost all the time, depending on how busy my life is in this blissful state where people, like, my kids would run up to me and like, oh, you just meditated. They just felt. They just know it because they sense how I'm in, like, a bliss, like I said, to a point where sometimes I get out of a meditation and I'm, like, drunk. I feel like I can't. I have to acclimate to the world again. That's how deep I can go sometimes. But before I started, much more stressful, much more angry about a lot of frustrations that I had in my life at the time. You know, I would go off like that, you know, I loved not go off like stupid stuff. Like you know, some cut you off kind of go off or snap, fight or flight. Yeah, it was a constant. But as I started to meditate over the years and the deeper and longer I would go into it, my. I became much more relaxed, much more, Much more at peace. It takes a little bit longer, a lot longer to get me riled up. Like, I don't get riled up as easy as I used to before. Like, especially when I was a young man, I drop of a hat, ready to go. Like, it was just constant. But now I'm just more. I look back, you know, someone cuts me off in, in traffic, I can count one hand how many times I've gotten upset over that in the last 10 years because it doesn't happen. But when they do, I'm like, man, he must be something going on with him or something going on with her that, you know, that, that she's. That had to do that, you know, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's just dangerous. Then I like, why are you putting my life in danger? Get away from me. Other than that, it's those kind of things. But me and meditation's changed my life in such a large and profound way. But so many people are afraid of it because they don't know what to do and how to do it and what they're doing wrong. And you're right. Judgy, judgy, judgy, judgy, judgy.
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah. And there's so much misinformation out there. Like, I think, and I think one of the big misconceptions I see is that a lot of people are trying to practice monastic meditation. Like styles that were actually made for monks versus Ziva was made for people like us. Diva is made for people with busy minds and busy lives. So you actually only need to do about 15 or 20 minutes. And because it's giving your body this rest that's five times deeper than sleep, you're getting the equivalent of about an hour and a half nap, but without the sleep hangover on the other side. So, yes, you're flooding your brain and body with dopamine and serotonin, which are bliss chemicals, which is why you felt like, drunk or high. It's like you're getting high on your own supply, but you're not flooding the brain with sleep chemicals. And because you're getting that deep rest, you're getting that de excitation. And when you de excite something, you create order. And when you create order in your body, that is the mechanics by which the body's able to release that lifetime of accumulated stress. Because the body doesn't want to be stressed. It's just trying to protect us. And if the body thinks that there's constantly a life threatening situation going on because we're chronically in that fight or flight, then it has to be on guard. We have to be vigilant. And then if we're constantly in that vigilant fight or flight hyper accelerated mode, then the body is never getting the rest that it needs to repair. And that affects everything. Our adrenals, our immune system, our skin elasticity, our brain elasticity, our endocrine, our hormone, our reproductive organs, our sex drive. So when, when you're like, oh, this thing sounds so magical, what are the mechanics? What I want people to understand is that meditation is not magic. It is simply the most powerful antidote that we have to stress. And stress is responsible for 90% of all doctors visits. 9, 0. According to Harvard Medical School, stress is responsible for 90% of all of our doctor's visits. So any ailment that you have, any predisposition that you might have that you've inherited from your genetic blueprint from your parents or your grandparents, or if you were born with something that's just a blueprint. But 95% of our genetic code is actually our epigenetics, which are mutable or changeable. So that means that every time we exercise, every time we have sex, every time we meditate, every time we garden, every time we're in the sunshine, every time we're laughing with friends, we're turning on our healthy gene expressions. And conversely, every time we're lonely or drinking alcohol or eating too much sugar, or on screens all day, or not meditating, or letting our bodies be pickled with stress chemicals like adrenaline and cortisol, we're turning on the unhealthy gene expression. And so the thing I want the people to understand is just how much agency we do have over our physical, mental and spiritual wellness. It's like we've all been handed different blueprints and that, and that's a real thing, right? Like if your mom was an alcoholic and your dad was depressed and your grandma committed suicide, like admittedly the stacks, the decks are stacked against you. But it's not fatalistic. It doesn't mean that that has to be your fate. Oh, agreed.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, agreed. 100. And I mean, that's a lot of. That is generational karma as well, that you kind of carry along with you generationally, and you can stop it. I mean, Bruce Lipton, you know, the Godfather, epigenetics, you know, you can change your blueprint, you can change your destiny. It is something that is scientifically been proven now that you can do.
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Freddie Prinze Jr.
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
Before, you're like, well, dad had cancer, you're gonna have cancer. Mom had this, you're gonna have that. That's not necessarily the case. A lot of that has to do with your own belief system. Now, Emily, I wanted to ask you, since you have meditated for so long and spent three years in a monastic scenario in India while you were training. Well, close to them, I'm assuming.
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Emily Fletcher
Well, yeah, it wasn't actually monastic because this lineage, Even though it's 6,000 years old, it was made for what we call householders. It was made for people with busy minds and busy lives. And the thing I love about this lineage so much is that it's really celebrates the individual, the totality. It's not trying to remove you from society. It's actually giving you the tools to integrate into society, which is better.
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Alex Ferrari
But spending three years in India training for meditation, you're around a lot of meditators, you're a lot around, I'm assuming some gurus, some yogis you've probably run into and things like that during your meditations, where you said that you had to meditate 18 hours a week, which is a substantial amount of meditation. Did you ever go so deep that visions came to you or something? Someone started to talk to you? This is now the more yogic idea of meditation, where you read Autobiography of a Yogi, or you read a lot of these philosophies where meditation does open you into other. Yeah, I mean, to the extent of opening yourself up to other worlds or being able to do other things with yogic powers, but specifically just straight visions, ideas, names. The name of this show came to me in a meditation. I literally said, hey, guys, if you want me to do this show, I need a name that I can trademark and that no one else is using. And. And then 15 minutes later in my meditation, the words next level soul showed up. I'm like, oh, that sounds cool. Let me check that out. So it happened. Things like that happen all the time in my meditations. So what I would love to hear Your experiences?
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah. What a great question. So actually, the same thing happened for me. I was doing my teacher training, and at this point, I was actually in Los Angeles finishing my training, but still meditating 18 hours a week and apprenticing. And. And I was like, what am I going to name this company? And so, because I was, like, starting to build my website and starting to get things going, I was like. And my. My boyfriend at the time was like, why don't you just make up a word? I was like, I'm not going to just make up a word. And he's like, well, look at Google, Yahoo, Akamai. Like, all these huge companies just made up words. And I was like. Like, that doesn't feel right to me.
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Alex Ferrari
Google's a real word. Google's a real word. I'm sorry. Actually, yeah, it's. It's a number. It's a number. It's an actual number. Yeah, it sounds made up, but it's.
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Emily Fletcher
Not something that's in the zeitgeist. You know, Yahoo is like, okay, it's like a sound, but, you know, so there's. It's like you're taking these abstract concepts and then making them terms. And so basically, in the meditation, I was, you know, in the inquiry, and I got the hit of like, oh, the Sanskrit word for bliss. And so I looked it up. What's the Sanskrit word for bliss? Well, turns out there's 14 different Sanskrit words for bliss. Ziva was one of them. It jumped out at me, and so I was like, what does Ziva mean? So Ziva's Sanskrit for bliss, but it's also a Hebrew name that means one who is radiant or kind. And since bliss and radiance and kindness are very common side effects of meditation, I thought it would be a good name. So there was that. And I would say that.
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Alex Ferrari
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Emily Fletcher
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Emily Fletcher
Contigo. Take a second. Literal mente. Un momentico para t. How's your corazon feeling today? If it's a little tired. A little. Oof. You're not alone. Have you eaten Algorico? Taken a deep breath, Maybe even turned off your phone for cinco minutitos. I promise the memes will still be there. Sometimes self care isn't candles and meditation. It's just saying no. It's drinking a little bit of agua. It's Letting yourself rest, Simpena, you don't have to prove anything today. Just be breathe. Estas haciendo lo mejor que puedes. And yes, that's enough. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
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Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this fall, take care of the little ones in the family with the Baby Club Savings now through November 4th. Spend $25 on select Baby Club products and save $5. Shop for items like Pediasure bottles, Pedialyte powder packs, Huggies baby wipes, Huggies diapers, Gerber puffs and Gerber pouches. And save $5 when you buy $25 or more on participating products. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.
- [26:17]
German (State Farm representative)
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- [27:19]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [27:23]
Emily Fletcher
What happened mostly in the beginning of my career as a meditator was like a dissolving. It was a, it was a death. It was me dying to all of the old parts of me that were not relevant and really unstressing, like letting go of so much accumulated stress. It wasn't very fun, but it was helpful. I think it's like allowed me to radiate at a frequency that inspires people to want to learn. But recently, I'd say in the past two to three years I've had a lot of awakenings, a lot of very psychedelic experiences and, and really deepening my connection with the divine. And I would say anthropomorphizing my, my relationship with the divine, because according to the Vedas, which is what I've been studying for 16 years. So the Vedas, V E D A Sanskrit word that means knowledge. Knowledge of what? It's like knowledge of natural law. It's like these are the laws of nature and you don't have to follow them. It's not a law, it's not a doctrine, it's not a dogma. It's just if you want nature's support, it would behoove you to understand how nature's working so that you can work in accordance with it. But you do. You boo. It's like, it's not gonna. There's no like, do. It's not like the ten Commandments, thou shalt do this or that. It's just like gravity's real. You can use it to help you or hurt you. Fair enough. And so. So that was sort of the beginning and that. And so I operate under the belief that all of it is you. So the most foundational concept in the Vedas is that there is only one thing and we are all it. And that one thing is consciousness. And so even, you know, the gurus or the deities or the entity or like the pantheon of gods and goddesses that are in the Vedas, I just think of them as express, as expressions of myself. So Lakshmi, the goddess of abundance, I just see as a representation of the abundance inside of me. Shiva, the destroyer of irrelevance, I see as the destruction of irrelevance inside of me. So every time you file your nails or take a poo or exfoliate your skin, that's Shiva function. Anytime something has become irrelevant, it needs to be destroyed. And so most recently, I've been very connected. We're going to jump pantheons now, but I feel like I have a very deep connection with Isis. And Isis is the Egyptian goddess of motherhood, of fertility, and of sex magic. And so my most recent part of my career has been helping people to teach, teaching people how to use their sexual energy to manifest. And this is very potent, very powerful practice because it's one of the most conditioned, shamed parts of our society because it is one of the most potent. And so just like psychedelics have been vilified, so has sexual energy. Because sexual energy is an endogenous pharmacology, right? Like this is. These are chemicals that we can access inside of our own brains and bodies that nature's installed inside of us that remind us of our own divinity. And I think because people who have access to that are very hard to control, similar with psychedelics, it's giving you such a visceral experience of your own divinity, that we've gone ahead and made everyone think that those are scary or bad or wrong or sinful. So when you tap into the power in these, there can be a huge reclamation. And so for me, in the past three, three to four years, I've really deepened my relationship with Isis to the point where now I feel like, like she's my girl. Like I can like call on her when I need, I can do invocations for other people. Like, it feels really like this beautiful two way relationship that I've invested a lot of time and energy in and, and in. You know, I believe that nature pays attention to those who are awake and what we put our attention on grows. And so if you're willing to invest and even sacrifice the most valuable resource that we have, which is our time and attention, and give that to the divine, then the divine gives that back to us. And, and even if all of that is just hogwash, like, even if it's just a placebo, then it is changing my consciousness, right? It is changing the way that I interact with the world and therefore changing my reality.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah. I was going to ask you about sex magic because you're right, sex is such a, especially in the west, you know, just looked upon and, and vilified. And I mean, all of, I mean, throughout history, I mean, and also the, the oppression of women in general, throughout history, people always ask me, why are there no more? There's not as many ascended. All the ascended masters are all male. And there's not a lot of female ascended masters that you talk about. I'm like, well, because if you came out as a woman, as an ascended master, you would probably have been burned in the olden days. It's just the, with the nature of the thing. But that oppression of that sexual magic or that sexual energy, and then women have so much of it that they, you know, women are extremely powerful. I've been surrounded by women, I was raised by women. And I have very no testosterone in my house whatsoever other than my own. So I am surrounded by women all the time. And it is, they are, it's so powerful. And it seems that women are starting to find the power within themselves and being more free to express it and in sexual, in sexual energy as well. During the practices you're talking about, if you tap into that sexual energy, it is potent without question. How do you combine or how does sex magic contribute to spiritual growth? Because it can go see just like, just like psychedelics, just like so many other things in the physical, you can live There. And it could be a detour from your, your spiritual path. Just like on the yogic path, you start to levitate, you start to biologate. Those are really cool things. Manifest things out of your hand. You're becoming a superhero. And you could get caught in those yoga traps, as they call them. So how do you contribute this sexual energy to your spiritual growth and not get caught in the trap? Because, hey, if you've had good sex, it can be a trap. My dear, I hate to tell you.
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Emily Fletcher
It'S awesome. Like, why isn't everyone having great sex?
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Alex Ferrari
We should do this five times a day. I don't understand why we're not doing it all the time. And many people try. No, but it could be. But that physical, that physical expression is very potent, but you can get lost in it. So I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah, yeah. So I mean, anything can be medicine and anything can be a drug, right? Like water is the very basis of life. It is 90% of our bodies. And yet it can be a form of torture. You can waterboard people. That's what they do to prisoners of war. Same is true of psychedelics. It could be one of the most potent reclamation tools that allows you to not only see the face of God, but remember that you are the face of God. And you can use psychedelics to avoid life and to escape. Escape your life. And I think the same is true of sexual energy. You can use it to numb. You can use it to, as an addiction, to fill an internal void with an external source. I mean, food, right? Like people, we need food to live. It is nourishment. And people have food addictions. And so the question is not really the modality. I'm less interested in what the thing is, I'm more interested in what is your motivation in using it. Right? And so if your motivation to eat a meal is to nourish your body, to open up, to have community with your friends, to create alchemy and art with your food then, and to pray and to offer your the pleasure of eating up to the divine as you're having the meal. That's very different than like eating a whole sleeve of Oreos while you're watching Netflix and not even tasting the Oreos because you're not even present with the food. So I think the same is true of sexual energy, right? So we could use it to numb our pain. We could try to fill our internal holes with external sources, like validating ourselves from other people and certainly the way that sexuality is presented. And what we're all swimming in, certainly in the west, but probably the whole world is such a patriarchal, misogynistic view of sex. And because so many people are being introduced to sex with porn, it's like, whoa. It's like, to me, the conversation around sex is similar to if the only thing we ever said about food was a warning about junk food where we're just like, oh, this is toxic. This is bad for you. The sugar is going to create inflammation. The hydrogenated oils are going to give you a heart attack. That people are like, oh, my God, you're going to get STDs and you're going to get pregnant and you're going to. He's going to try and use you and he's going to. You're going to get raped and then you're going to get abused. And. And that's all we're talking about, is the dangers and the darkness. And because we're swimming in so much repression that it's like the energy is so powerful that it wants to be expressed, but it's only being expressed in. Not only, but it is largely being expressed in its darker forms because we have not yet learned how to express it in a healthy, integrated way. And I think that that is the very unfortunate byproduct of. Of making us afraid of our own power and afraid of our own pleasure. That's happened with institutions and religion and political organizations for tens of thousands of years. So what I'm very interested in.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Emily Fletcher
Is how do we re educate the population to have a conversation about the light as well. To see that we can use our sexual energy as a pathway to the divine. And that unioning with yourself or unioning with someone else is one of the most potent and powerful ways of viscerally experiencing the divinity inside of you. And so just like we would teach kids about, you know, the power of a car, like you're gonna, if you're gonna go to driver's ed, it's like this is a powerful tool. This car can get you to school in 20 minutes instead of you having to walk there or take the public bus and transfer four times. This is a powerful tool and you can wrap it around a tree and kill yourself and someone else. But we're only having the dangerous side of the conversation around sex without integrating or teaching people how profound and potent and, and holy it is as well.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, without question. And you know, it's funny you're saying people being introduced into porn, you know, I worked in the film industry and the things that they project even in Hollywood and movies and sex is not something that is real because I've shot those kind of scenes as a director and I could Tell you, not comfortable. Not comfortable for the actors, not comfortable for me, not comfortable for anybody involved. And every time, you know, my wife and I will be watching a movie and we're like, oh, yeah, that scene in the shower. Yeah, that's not comfortable at all. Oh, backseat of a car. Yeah, that's not the way that goes, you know. Oh, on the beach. Yeah. With the sand. Sure. Like, sure. Only people who have. Who, like, let's go have sex on the beach. And then the second you're like, oh, this is not. No. Oh, in a pool. In a pool. No, no, not nearly as cool as they make it look like the chlorine.
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Emily Fletcher
In your hoohah is not all that exciting.
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Alex Ferrari
And we could get. I don't want to go into super details, but you know what I mean? Like, a lot of people look at those things as, like, oh, well, that must be the way it is. When you. When you go around the block a couple times, you realize that that's not the way it is. And it's not the pure, real connection of love when you do it in the right way with love involved, it's an expression of that love. And only people who've had both can understand the difference. Was that. Is that a fair statement?
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Emily Fletcher
Well, I think that. I think the only thing I would argue with is when we think about love, like, even that word, it has some connotations of like, oh, well, you need to be in love with the person, and it needs to be your person. And so, like, what I hear is I can see people putting filters on that of like, oh, I need to be in love with my primary partner. And I need to doing this in a way that is an expression, expression of our, like, monogamous, heterosexual, cisgendered love. Which is different than, like, oh, I love myself and I could make love in my body. I could make oxytocin in my own body. I could use the pleasure that I'm creating in my own body to dedicate to my higher self, my angel self, Isis, or any other divine being, because we are the incarnate ones, right? Like, they don't have bodies. So as an act of love, as an act of devotion, I could invite those beings in to experience that pleasure through my body. I could do. You know, there's. There's like, many different versions of love, but I would hope that anyone engaging in any pleasure practices is doing it from a place of either loving themselves or loving someone else.
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Alex Ferrari
And I would agree with you on that. And also, one thing I noticed is when you become more conscious during sex or during lovemaking. Conscious meaning really in it? Very much like the Oreo cookie analogy. You said a lot of people do sex that way. That is just like going through the motion or just this or that. But when you focus your energy on the partner, on your partner, focus your energy, your mind, your complete thought pattern, it transforms the act in such a large way. It's hard to, you know, it's hard. Once you get the porn out of the head and bring in the consciousness into it, it opens life up in a large, that experience up in a large way. Would you agree?
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah. And, and there's no ceiling on that. Like it is infinite fractals of beauty and presence and pleasure that can happen. And you know, when we do our retreats, like I'm, I'm leading a retreat next week and I, I invite people as an invitation. But before we do our sacred secret retreats, I invite people to abstain from porn with no judgment. And like, look, there's a time and a place for everything. But similar to if all you were ever eating was candy, if all you were ever eating was sweet tarts, then to try and taste the sweetness of a home cooked carrot from your garden, you're just not going to be able to taste the sweetness of that versus if you're not eating candy and you eat a home cooked roasted carrot that you grew from your own garden. And the time and energy and presence and love that went into cultivating that, it is going to be like night and day and again, it's infinite. Like the amount of return you can get on that investment. And the same, I would say, of vibrators. You know, with vibrators it's just, it's, it's so intense, it's so fast. And usually we're doing that because we, not, we're not taking the time to prioritize our pleasure. And so we're just looking for like, what's the fastest way to get to an end result. So I invite people to abstain from porn and vibrators and just really come home to themselves and to treat their pleasure practices like they would a mindfulness practice. So instead of fantasizing, instead of trying to get anywhere, instead of trying to change an outcome, it's like, can I come back to what is? Can I notice what is? Can I put my attention on the present moment? Can I be in this sensation? And then what we put our attention on grows. So as you put your attention on that sensation, it amplifies. And the trick where this Becomes such a powerful and profound healing modality. And I think this goes to your original question of how can we use sexual energy as our, as part of our spiritual practice? Is that usually, you know, unfortunately, because we are swimming in so much sexual trauma because it has been so compartmentalized and we usually we have some flavor of abuse, be it religious or incestual or rape or who knows, but some flavor of sexual abuse that when we start to dance in these territories, the things get triggered. You know, the stories, the shame, the uncomfortability, the body hatred. Like there's any number of things that get popped up. And rather than staying seeing that as a barrier of like, oh no, I'm supposed to be doing a pleasure practice and now I'm thinking about how much I hate my body, or oh no, I was supposed to be making love to my partner and now I'm feeling isolated and alone inside. Instead of thinking of that as an obstacle. What I teach in Sacred secret is whatever is, is the portal. This is a really simple but profound concept, is that whatever is, is your portal. Meaning if you're feeling numb, cool. Can we just love that numbness? Can we feel it all the way? Can we get curious about it? Why am I numb right now? What is my body protecting me from? When did this numbness start? Actually, numbness is a feeling. Can I feel it all the way? And I would argue that bliss is any feeling fully felt. Bliss is any feeling fully felt. So if you're having rage at yourself, rage at your partner, can you feel that all the way? Because the reality is our feelings just want to be felt. And what I have been so amazed by is the profundity and potency of, of sexual energy of that pleasure to alchemize. Like how quickly it can take intense trauma, intense darkness, and alchemize it into light. Because the creative capacity of pleasure is so great that it is. It's bigger than the darkness, it's bigger than the pain. So it actually allows you to feel it fully. Which is very similar to meditation. Like the reason why meditation alchemizes stress is because your body finally feels safe enough to know that it can produce its own bliss chemistry. It's like once your body knows that it can produce dopamine and serotonin in a repeatable, self sufficient way, it actually frees you up to feel the stress, to feel the rage, to feel the unfelt sadness. And similarly, once the body knows it has access to pleasure, pleasure is even more potent than bliss because you're adding in norepinephrine and adrenaline and oxytocin, which are even more potent bliss chemicals. So it's like, it's like the pleasure metabolizes the pain. And I feel really effusive about this because I've recently learned that my like, talking about guides and who I get connected to. So I've had many different healers tell me that my power animal is a peacock. And yes, I'm a singer, dancer, performer, and yes, I'm like a 5 foot 10 Broadway showgirl and all that. But not just the showgirl aspect of the peacock. That I learned recently that peacocks eat poison, that peacocks actually ingest venom, and they turn it into their feathers. And that's what I feel like is a big part of my dharma, is to teach people how to use their own pleasure and to metabolize their own pain, to take that trauma and to turn it into beauty.
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Alex Ferrari
That is so wonderful. That's such a beautiful look, idea and concept. All this talk we're talking about with sexual, sexual magic and really diving deeper into our energy. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. There is so much dogma that we are programmed with programming that we have picked up along the way through, like you said, through religion, through our, our community, our parents, our friends, our cinema, what, you know, movies, television, whatever, whatever that is. How can you, what advice do you have for somebody who wants to overcome the programming? Because I promise you, when you said the word vibrator a few minutes ago, there was people in the audience that are like, oh, oh my God. Oh my pearls, that vibrator, like, I can see that. And when I said that, that was the first, the first there was that programming in my head. You're like, did she just say vibrator out loud? And you said it with such ease. And that's a, that's a, you know, it's wonderful. I love it, it's. And I have no problem with it, but I, for whatever reason, I sensed what the audience is part of the audience, your job.
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Emily Fletcher
You got to tune into the frequency of your eyes.
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Alex Ferrari
I, I felt that like the audience like, oh my gosh, she just said vibrator. What are they going to talk about self pleasure next? Like, I mean, it's like all that kind of stuff. So what advice do you have for somebody who wants to break free from these, this programming, change the, the connections, the synapses in their head so they can become more free with their sexual energy and then also that leading to help them on their spiritual path?
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Emily Fletcher
Yeah, thank you for asking that. And I first just want to let anyone know that, like, I don't, like, I was listening to this because I wanted to talk about meditation. I don't Know why this woman's even talking about pleasure. This feels wrong. This feels dirty. This feels like a sin. I just want you to know that you are not alone. There is nothing wrong with you. And there's been 10 of thousands of years of very effective campaigning to divorce us from this flavor of our own divinity. So just know that there's nothing wrong. And I also want to share that I was raised Southern Baptist. Okay? I'm from Tallahassee, Florida. I was raised Southern Baptist with, you know, I grew up with dudes wearing khaki suits yelling at me from a pulpit, telling me what I should and shouldn't do with my body. And even at five years old, I was like, that is not it for me. That is not it. And then I grew up and I got on Broadway, and for 10 years I would sing and dance. And I became world class at moving my body and using my voice in a way that made people want me, but I did not know my own want. And again, I thought, that is not it. And then I started teaching the Ziva technique of mindfulness and meditation and manifesting to tens of thousands of people. And the number one thing that I would hear is, Emily, I don't know what I want. Emily, I don't know what I want. And again, I thought, that is not it. We have been so divorced from our desires because we've been made to think that our desires are a sin, that our desires are wrong. And so then I've had the amazing good fortune of being exposed to some of the world's most amazing teachers, Tantric masters, pleasure facilitators that have really changed my mind, opened my eyes, allowed me to reclaim this flavor of divinity for myself, allowed me to use my pleasure to. To pray. And that's really what I teach now. I teach people how to use their pleasure to pray. Because I would argue that the simplest recipe, the simplest formula for manifestation is this. Feel good. Place the order. Place the order. Feel good. Feel good. Place the order. Place the order. Feel good. Feel good. Place the order.
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Alex Ferrari
Place the order.
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Emily Fletcher
Feel good. Feel good. Place the order. Place the order. Feel good. And it's so simple to understand, but it's not that simple to practice. Because we have been trained to think that feeling good is a sin. Oh, I can't have that cake. Oh, I can't take that time. I can't take a nap. I couldn't meditate for 15 minutes. I don't deserve that. I couldn't possibly engage in a self pleasure practice because that means I'm Going to go to hell, and that's a sin. So it's just like, look at all of the insidious ways that we've been divorced not only from our desire, but also from our pleasure, which is so absurd because it's like, why do we think we even incarnated to begin with? Like, truly, like, why are we here? If you talk to the enlightened masters, if you ask the greats, the living legends, the people that we're all looking to for the spiritual answers, what they say is that the. The purpose of life is bliss. The 24 hour a day bliss is our birthright. And that the reason that we're here is to have a great time. So when along the way did we convince ourselves that the point of life is to, like, max out our 401k and work 60 hours a week and like, live in these little cells of cubicles and then connect on screens instead of in person? And it's just like, we're just so deep in a very unhealthy paradigm of what it means to be a human. And so for anyone who's like, I want to liberate myself from this, well, I'll tell you how I've done it, and this is a little embarrassing. I did not prioritize my own pleasure until I understood that I could use my pleasure to pray. It was not until I understood that I could use my pleasure to enhance my manifestation practice that I started to really prioritize it, which is kind of effed up, but it's true. And I. And I'm saying that because my superpower as a teacher is making esoteric concepts accessible and relatable to a mainstream audience. I've done it for 16 years with meditation, and now it feels like nature is asking me to do the same thing for sacred sexuality because, you know, desperate times call for desperate measures. So, so I'm sharing that because just like 16 years ago when I started teaching about meditation, I was like, hey, you guys, you can just sit quietly in a chair and it's going to help you have better sex and make more money. I was like, going after what was the theme and the vibration on the planet, which was like, achieve more, make more money, have better sex. My book is called Stress Less, Accomplish more. I managed to reframe meditation as a productivity tool because I was willing to put the candy coating on top of the medicine. And now it feels like what I'm doing with pleasure is framing pleasure as a manifestation tool, which it is. You can use your pleasure to pray So I think that a way in. If you are like me and not yet willing to prioritize your pleasure because it feels too selfish, too luxurious, too sinful, too decadent, then what if you were like, oh, the better I feel, the more money I could make for my family. Oh, the better I feel, the more I. The faster I could manifest this house for my dream home. Oh, the better I feel, the higher quality employees I'm going to attract to serve my mission. So that's, that's, that's my sneaky way in. Now.
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Alex Ferrari
You know what's fascinating is you were saying something that just caught my eyes. Like we've been here, especially in the west, not as much in, in Europe, but here in the United States, that sex is. I mean, you can't see anything dealing with sex or nudity or anything like that. It's like rated R or restricted or all this kind of stuff. But yet the violence that could be shown is so easy. You can have people's heads cut off. That's no problem. You get me. What passes for PG13 or even television now, it's just, it's just a way of the focus of our programming. Why it's all comes. I think it all comes back down from the dogma and religion. It all comes down from all that stuff. But it is fascinating to see how you go to Europe and just like it's, it's completely different there. And not that they're perfect by any stretch, they still have their issues as well, but it's just prioritizing something that was given to us by our creator as far as our sexual energy is concerned, not demonizing it, but embracing it for the betterment of ourselves and a betterment of our lives and the betterment of people around us, maybe our partners hopefully as well. But it is such a powerful thing that has been demonized for way, way, way too long. And I think, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this because I do see a lot of these cracks are starting to show. Things are starting to crumble around them, religion being one of them, you know, different governments and financial. All, all these institutions that you and I grew up with, been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years are starting to crumble because. Because the, this, this is the consciousness is going, no, no, this is what you said at five years old, a lot of other people are starting to catch up on. Even now when I was in Catholic school at 5 years old, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. What is this really? This doesn't make any sense. So where do you. Where do you see a better understanding of sex or embracing sexual energy in this. This whole path of. Of different institutions that are crumbling down? And where you think it's going to go in the future?
- [60:27]
Emily Fletcher
Well, I'll tell you where I'd like for it to go. I believe that what we put our attention on grows. And so, you know, anything that you want to manifest, like, starts first, starts as an idea, as a feeling, as a journal entry, as a. You know, before you build the house, you have the blueprint. And so I think it's really important that we collectively continue to put our attention on the things that we want to grow, like water, the flowers, not the weeds. And I always say, like, and especially in presidential elections, like, do not talk about the candidate that you do not want to win. Talk about the candidate that you do want to win. Put your attention on the thing that you want to grow. So if we collectively can put our attention on the reality that we want to manifest, then we are growing those flowers. And that is actually the entire point. So that's actually the entire point behind Sacred Secret. And Sacred Secret is this new modality I've been birthing for the past three years. And it's basically this formula where we visualize, alchemize, and magnetize. We visualize the future that we want either for ourselves or for the species. We alchemize anything standing in the way, and then we magnetize it with our pleasure. And so a reality that I am birthing that I think will will plant the seeds for many other realities to be birthed. It'll be like a fractal of creation because we're harnessing our creation energy. So I'll share with my dream, and then I'll share what I hope is the ripple effect of that.
- [61:47]
Alex Ferrari
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- [64:17]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [64:21]
Emily Fletcher
Is you know, the sacred sites around the planet, almost like the acupuncture points of the planet. You know the pyramids in Cairo, the pyramids in Teotihuacan in Mexico City, there's even points in Antarctica, like there are Machu Picchu, like there are sacred sites around the planet that are not just man made structures. They are important energetic meridians on the planet, just like we have important energetic meridians in our body. And so my dream is to activate these sacred sites, to be doing sacred secret activations there where people are visualizing, alchemizing and magnetizing the life and the world of their wildest imagination. And millions of people streaming in from home also doing the same from the safety and comfort of their own home. And, and my big dream is that everyone gets into deep coherence with themselves and each other and that they're holding a shared vision for the planet, it that they're actually holding a vision for what their version of heaven on Earth looks like. And my hypothesis, and obviously I don't know because we've never done this, but my hypothesis is that if we can get a critical mass of people in this elevated of a state of consciousness, holding and putting the most potent creative force on the planet and dedicating that to their dream, that we may in fact change the timeline of the species. And people are like, this sounds like crazy. And this is so wild. And like, to me what sounds crazy is letting humanity go the direction that it is heading right now. Because if we look at the statistics, if we look at predictive analytics, like it does not look good for humans. Like we are murdering ourselves. We are, we are committing suicide as a species. That is happening right now. We have less than 60 years of usable soil left on the planet. Six, zero. My son is five. Okay. I would like to be alive in 60 years. And so it's like, what's crazy to me is it just to continue on this linear path of basic assured extinction for the planet. And so for me it's like it is time to engage in non linear, more circular, more magical practices if we want to have a shot of creating heaven on Earth.
- [66:27]
Alex Ferrari
Now, I know this question might sound a little weird, but I think it works for the conversation we've been having. Have you ever had a sexual spiritual event, meaning that while you were having sex, you had some sort of awakening vision, some sort of spiritual thing that happened to you because you were so connected to source during that, that moment.
- [66:51]
Emily Fletcher
In the sexual encounter so many times? I mean, to me it is the thing that I am borderline obsessed with is, is for myself and helping other people to see their sexual energy as a pathway to the divine. And so like in a very simple way that this happens that anyone can utilize, anyone can practice is, is just creating like making it a ceremony, whether you're making love to yourself or someone else, like creating a ritual space around it, lighting a candle, making time, making it sacred, preparing the temple, preparing your body, having an intention going into it, integrating afterwards, inviting in your guides to be a part of the process. Like that is available to all of us free of charge. And so for me, like a very simple practice that I've had happen that people can replicate is, you know, before you engage in any sort of a pleasure practice, just connecting with any kind of a guide. And that could be your future self, that could be your angel, that could be A certain deity that you connect with or God or goddess or whatever. Anything. Whatever you like to call that which, which cannot be named, right? Whatever your name is. That which cannot be.
- [68:03]
Alex Ferrari
The Voldemort.
- [68:04]
Emily Fletcher
The Voldemort, yeah. The Voldemort never is the opposite of the Voldemort.
- [68:09]
Alex Ferrari
Voldemort exactly.
- [68:10]
Emily Fletcher
Like inviting in that. Like, for me it's Isis, right? Like I like to dedicate my pleasure practices to Isis. But you could do that too. Like even. And if you wanted us to think about the manifestation of like, who is the version of me where this dream is already done. Like the version of me that already has her dream home, her dream person, her dream job. Like inviting in that version of you that future self and allowing them to experience that pleasure with you. So it's like you're merging timelines and merging realities. So that's one way that you could do it. I would say that every time I'm with my partner, like, he is such an extraordinary example of, of like how a human being can love. And, and he's remarkable in a lot of reasons, but one, I would argue that his devotion to the goddess is even bigger than mine. His devotion to the divine feminine is greater than mine. And so when we make love, he is worshiping the divine feminine through me. And I am the lucky recipient of that act of worship. And so it's, it's almost not about me because. And it's almost not about him because for both of us, we are using it as a pathway to God. And so yes, it is honoring and yes, we have chosen each other and yes, we are resonant in that way. But they, you know, there's so many songs where it's like wherever two or more to get. Wherever two or more are gathered together, God is there, there, God is present, right? And so there's that. And then also on my retreats, so when we practice Sacred Secret, Sacred secret can be practiced with play, with laugh, with energy, with breath. You don't have to be doing a self pleasure practices. I teach this at, you know, CEO conferences with Fortune 100 CEOs like that. You can definitely do a PG version of this. But on my retreats, people are in full blown ceremony, full pleasure practices and everyone is orgasming at the same time, holding a vision for themselves and the species. And that is very much a spiritual practice. Like everyone, it's, you know, people are closed, they're under blankets, lights are low. It's not an orgy, it's a very, it's like a It feels like a ceremony. It feels more like church, actually. But people are writing the energy, the collective energy of what's happening in the room, and it's amplifying each other. It's like the antenna gets bigger.
- [70:30]
Alex Ferrari
Now, I wanted to ask you, can you give the audience any advice on how to combat the epidemic of worthiness that we are all suffering from? So many people are so not connected to being worthy enough for this or worthy enough for that, and it really just stops their life from moving forward. So can you give them any advice?
- [70:54]
Emily Fletcher
Yes. What an amazing question. Question. So, one meditation, I. There's been nothing else that I have found that has increased my worthiness, that has increased what I call deserving power of what I believe that I deserve. Nothing has impacted that for me more than meditation. Because what meditation is doing is that every day for Ziva, twice a day, you are remembering your own divinity, right? Like you are. You allow that wave of individuality to reconnect to the ocean of totality. That left brain is very in real time merging with the right brain. And left brain is in charge of individuality. Right brain is in charge of totality. So every day, twice a day, we're. We're dissolving into that everythingness. And when you come back out of that everythingness and you go back into your individuality, you go back into your waking state, you. You feel viscerally that your desires are not your own, that your ideas are not your own. So who are you to judge yourself as worthy or not? It's actually nature moving through you. And interestingly, when you flood your brain and body with dopamine and serotonin, which is allowing you to feel fulfilled, it's allowing you to fill up from the very source, it changes your relationship with your desires. Because if you're not meditating every day, then your desires are going to be coming from lack, they're going to be coming from neediness. And that's an addiction, right? If you're trying to fill an internal hole with an external thing, no matter what that thing is, that is an addiction. And because meditation is going to allow you to fill up from the source, to access bliss internally. And the only place that it can be found in the only time which it can be found, which is now. And yet you still have the desires. So meditation is basically going to wholesale change your relationship with desire from one of I am neediness, looking to be fulfilled, right? And then if I. If you don't feel worthy of that, then you're going to block the desires, which is different from, oh, I already meditated today. I already flooded my brain and body with dopamine and serotonin. I already filled myself up from the source. I already have everything I need and I still want to sleep with that guy. I already have everything that I need and I still want to buy that house. I already have everything that I need and I still want to start that company. Why? I would argue that your desires are an indicator of where nature is using you to go and deliver your fulfillment to the world, not where you need to go to fill yourself up. And that one change can increase your worthiness because you realize that none of it is about you.
- [73:33]
Alex Ferrari
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- [73:38]
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- [73:42]
Alex Ferrari
Okay, real talk.
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German (State Farm representative)
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- [73:48]
Emily Fletcher
Hi, I'm Wilmer Valderrama.
- [73:49]
German (State Farm representative)
And I've done, you know, I've done.
- [73:51]
Alex Ferrari
The red carpets, the long days on.
- [73:53]
German (State Farm representative)
Set and all that.
- [73:53]
Emily Fletcher
But nothing prepares you for that moment when you're building a crib and you realize you're building a future. Familia is everything to me.
- [74:03]
German (State Farm representative)
The laughs, the chaos, the unconditional love.
- [74:06]
Alex Ferrari
But also the pressure. La responsabilidad.
- [74:09]
German (State Farm representative)
If you're stepping into something big right now, starting a family, getting engaged, moving cities, you're not alone. Take one step at a time.
- [74:18]
Alex Ferrari
Why breathe?
- [74:19]
German (State Farm representative)
Be present and lean into the people. They've got your back. It is fruit. Like a good neighbor.
- [74:25]
Alex Ferrari
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- [74:26]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [74:58]
German (State Farm representative)
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- [76:00]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [76:03]
Emily Fletcher
This stadium dream that I used to have, it's now the sacred site activation. It's not about me me. I'm not under the illusion that I will someday be fulfilled once I do a sacred secret activation at the pyramids. I am fulfilled right now. This is nature using me to go and deliver my fulfillment to the world. And when you start to play that game, you get a lot more worthy. Now the other piece is just to bring it back to another concept that we brought up is just like if you're in meditation and you think that thoughts are the enemy, that those thoughts are keeping you from your meditation practice, or if you're in a pleasure practice and you think that the fear or the shame or the guilt is keeping you from the pleasure, nope. Those thoughts during meditation, those perceived obstacles in your pleasure practice, that is the portal. So whatever is, is the medicine. And I would say that the same is true of worthiness. If you're going after a big goal, wherever your unworthiness shows up, that's your syllabus. That is your portal. That is nature teaching you. Where you have an opportunity to love that thing into integration, where you have an opportunity to love that thing into wholeness. Not to deny it, not to transcend it, not to pretend that it is not there, but to look at it, get curious about it. Why don't I believe I deserve this person? Oh, because my dad was an alcoholic and I was always having to manage him and so he didn't actually take care of me. So I actually don't believe that I'm worthy of being taken care of. Okay, Can I forgive my dad? Can I forgive that version of me that made up that belief? Can I love? Can I hold that little Emily so that she feels worthy, that she knows that I have her. And then from that place of wholeness, from that place of integration, we start to vibrate at a higher frequency and we start to magnetize our dreams.
- [77:51]
Alex Ferrari
Would you agree that worthiness and not having that worthiness within yourself is one of the key blocks to spiritual growth.
- [78:01]
Emily Fletcher
No, I think that it is the spiritual growth I think. Is your syllabus.
- [78:08]
Alex Ferrari
Correct. That's my point. It's, it's, it's the syllabus. Once you transcend the understanding of worthiness like the masters did, they understood that they're divine. The concept of worthiness was not even a question to them because they're like, oh, I'm just one with God and God is one with me. So when I manifest the loaves into, you know, the, the rocks into bread, that's just the universe working through me. It's almost kind of like rudimentary to them that they don't even. That programming is not. That concept's not even in their brain.
- [78:41]
Emily Fletcher
Yes.
- [78:41]
Alex Ferrari
But as we're growing and evolving spiritually, worthiness is a huge deal, because worthiness in. I'm not worthy to have such a deep meditation. I'm not worthiness to have great sex. I'm not worthy to have that kind of money. All that worthiness are blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks. And you're right, it is a syllabus on things that you've got to deal with in order to continue your spiritual growth. Is. That's what I was trying to say.
- [79:05]
Emily Fletcher
Yes, A million percent. I think we're saying the same thing in different ways. It's like a tree is not going to be like, well, who am I to take up these resources? Like, who am I to take up this sunlight? Who am I to take up this water? The tree understands that there's infinite light, there is infinite water, and that actually, it's like, I need to deepen my root structure. I need to spread my leaves so that I have more surface area to receive more light from this infinitely abundant supply of light. And the same is true of wealth. It's like, we only think that we're unworthy if we're coming to that from a place of ego or identity or separateness. Right. But when we start to understand, understand ourselves as more divine, then the game gets more fun. But I would argue that it's not about thinking that you're just God. Right? It's, yes, you're both human and divine. Like, nature gave us 5050 for a reason. Like, you look at a human brain and it splits right down the middle. And I don't think that nature makes mistakes. I think that it's 50 individuality and 50% totality on purpose so that we can stay in this cosmic seesaws, that we can stay in this cosmic bicycle ride of, yes, facing our limitations and facing Our unworthiness and facing our shame and our trauma and seeing that as holy too.
- [80:18]
Alex Ferrari
Now, I'm going to ask you a few questions I ask all of my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
- [80:26]
Emily Fletcher
Fulfilling myself from the source, Tapping into the source of fulfillment inside of me. If you had to, delivering that fulfillment to the earth.
- [80:36]
Alex Ferrari
Now, if you had a chance to go back in time to speak to little Emily, what advice would you give her?
- [80:41]
Emily Fletcher
Oh, man, it's like all I do right now, it's my full time job is going back and talking to little Emily. But I think I would tell her, you are safe, you are loved, you are perfect, exactly as you are. And I'm going to love you even more tomorrow. And your life is going to far exceed your wildest imagination. It's going to be more fun, more exciting than you even thought to pray for.
- [81:08]
Alex Ferrari
How do you define God or source?
- [81:12]
Emily Fletcher
This one's easy. I define God as the collective consciousness of all that is. Is the collective consciousness of all that is.
- [81:22]
Alex Ferrari
What is love?
- [81:26]
Emily Fletcher
Oh, love is both the animating force that allows us to be alive and it is the erotic magnetism that keeps us in the dance with each other and ourselves and the divine.
- [81:44]
Alex Ferrari
What is the ultimate purpose of life?
- [81:47]
Emily Fletcher
To have a great time.
- [81:49]
Alex Ferrari
And what does world peace look like to you?
- [81:54]
Emily Fletcher
It looks like all 8 billion people waking up in the morning, plugging themselves into source through meditation. All 8 billion people believing that they are worthy of love and pleasure, flooding their own brains and bodies not only with dopamine and serotonin, but also with oxytocin and of truly seeing the divine inside of themselves and inside of each other.
- [82:21]
Alex Ferrari
Now, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?
- [82:25]
Emily Fletcher
Yeah, so everything can be found@zivameditation.com which is z I V A meditation dot com. And if people want to go deeper on the neuroscience of specifically the Ziva techniques. I know we started with that, but if you're like, I want to, you know, I want to increase my worthiness, I want to increase my pleasure. A great place is I have a free masterclass and they can find that@zivameditation.com podcast. I'm also all over social media at ZivaMeditation and my new podcast, which I'm so proud of. I mean, you know how much love goes into making these shows. But my show is called why Isn't Everyone Doing this? And you can find it anywhere you podcast.
- [83:04]
Alex Ferrari
Great title, by the way, for a podcast.
- [83:06]
Emily Fletcher
Great Great title, isn't it? Great. It's like, wait, why isn't everyone meditating? Why isn't everyone their pleasure to pray?
- [83:13]
Alex Ferrari
Now, do you have any parting messages for the audience?
- [83:16]
Emily Fletcher
Yeah, just that if. If any part of this conversation felt a little edgy or a little triggering and even the fact that we talked about pleasure at all, I just invite you to. To get curious about that and to see if you could love that piece, love that resistance. See what that resistance wants you to know. Get curious about when that resistance first got installed inside of you, and then ask the question, like, whose belief is this? This? Is this mine? And if it's yours, then great. Own it, celebrate it, turn this podcast off. You know, like, never listen to another thing that I have to offer. But if the belief is not yours, then can we get even more curious about what do I believe? Do I believe that my pleasure is holy? Do I believe that nature intended for me to feel good? Do I believe that nature actually installed these chemicals inside of me? And just getting really curious and loving. Loving the resistance.
- [84:06]
Alex Ferrari
Emily, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show today, and I appreciate everything you're doing to help awaken the planet. So I appreciate you.
- [84:15]
Emily Fletcher
My pleasure. Thank you for having me. What a rich con conversation. You're such a good interviewer. Thank you.
- [84:22]
Alex Ferrari
I want to thank Emily so much for coming on the show and sharing her knowledge with all of us. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes at next levelsoul.com forward/4,51 now. If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on next level Soul TVs app. Where Soul meets streaming. Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Roku, Android TV, Fire TV, LG and Samsung apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your Awakening at next LevelSoul TV. Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.
- [85:09]
Freddie Prinze Jr.
This stress check, AKA friendly reminder that your hobbies matter, is brought to you by State Farm because you deserve to lose yourself in the stuff that brings you joy. Here's mine. Painting my tabletop battle miniatures. Yes. Seriously, after a long day, I grab a brush, pop in some music, and just get into it. And there's no wrong way to do it. It helps me clear my head, slow down, and just breathe. But it works Big Stress Mini warriors. Total reset. No pressure, just paint. Creativity. And a little reminder of what makes me happy. Some people bake, some people garden. Me, I paint warriors with interesting tech. And guess what? It works. You don't have to be good at your hobby, you just have to enjoy it. So carve out that time, tune out the noise, and do something that's just for you. Like a good neighbor. State Farm is there.
- [86:02]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [86:33]
German (State Farm representative)
October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month, a reminder that your digital life is always at risk. Every day, hackers steal identities, drain bank accounts and open fraudulent accounts. LifeLock is here with tips to help prevent you from becoming a victim. Use strong passwords, set up Multi Factor Authentication on your accounts, report scams and update the software on your devices. And for peace of mind, get LifeLock. LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for threats to your identity. If your identity is stolen, a LifeLock US based restoration specialist will fix it, guaranteed or your money back. Plus, LifeLock plans include the million dollar protection package, meaning LifeLock will reimburse you to your plan's limits if you lose money due to identity theft. Stay smart, stay safe and stay protected. Get Comprehensive Identity protection with a 30 day free trial@lifelock.com use promo code NEWS that's lifelock.com promo code NEWS for 30 days. Free terms apply.
- [87:32]
Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through November 4th. Shop the annual beauty event and save $5 when you spend 24 dol on select beauty products. Shop in store or online for items like Dove Body Wash, Native Body Wash, Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser, Dr. Squatch body wash, Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, Dial Liquid Hand Soap and Olay Body wash, and save $5 when you spend $25 or more. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.
- [88:04]
German (State Farm representative)
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- [88:33]
Freddie Prinze Jr.
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- [88:34]
Emily Fletcher
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- [88:37]
Freddie Prinze Jr.
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- [88:43]
Emily Fletcher
In fact, Energy Star estimates that a family of four will save an average of $550 a year on their electric energy bills.
- [88:51]
Ryan Seacrest
And your new heat pump water heater can pay for itself in as little as three years.
- [88:57]
Freddie Prinze Jr.
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- [88:59]
Emily Fletcher
Go to levelupmywaterheater.com to learn more.