Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode: FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: THIS Happens Right BEFORE — SIGNS You Have FOUND Your SOULMATE or TWIN FLAME in THIS LIFE
Guest: Matt Kahn
Release Date: December 19, 2025

Episode Overview

In this illuminating and candid conversation, spiritual teacher and author Matt Kahn returns to Next Level Soul to dive deep with Alex Ferrari into the sacred search for soulmates and twin flames. Together, they unpack the universal questions about how we find our divine partner, the signs and inner work needed, and how to distinguish between ego and authentic connection. Matt also openly shares, for the first time, that he channels—bringing a new level of vulnerability and wisdom to the discussion. This episode offers practical advice, heartfelt stories, and transformative insights for anyone seeking true companionship and a deeper sense of wholeness.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Power of Soul Connection vs. Ego’s Search

Timestamps: 05:35 – 10:48

• Matt Kahn recounts meeting his wife Joy:

  • Met at a conference, both as speakers.
  • Instant energetic connection:

    “Literally, our energy fields connected... the universe saying, by the way, you two are together. So you’re… figure it out.”
    – Matt Kahn (06:28)

• Past/Other Lives and Present Connection:

  • Matt experienced remembering past lives, but later came to live “as if this lifetime is my first and only lifetime,” focusing on being fully present rather than dwelling on past-life connections.

    “All the sense of past or even past lifetimes is gone. But there was a familiarity I felt with her for sure.”
    – Matt Kahn (08:57)

The Search for a Soulmate: Advice & Internal Preparation

Timestamps: 10:48 – 18:47

• Alex & Matt highlight the importance of stopping the search:

  • Alex shares his own story of letting go and “placing an order” with God, leading to his wife appearing just three weeks later:

    “I stopped looking. I was always like, ‘Hello, you, you. Are you it? Are you it?’”
    – Alex Ferrari (14:16)

• Matt’s unique approach:

  • Decided to live as a “single married man”, treating the invisible partner with the same respect he would if she existed physically.
  • Would not date unless someone truly seemed like a potential lifelong companion.

    “I would only go on a first date with someone I actually thought could be my wife. It was like a courtship.”
    – Matt Kahn (18:44)

Death Before Birth: Letting Go of Fantasies and Attachments

Timestamps: 18:56 – 23:46

• Matt’s guides taught him real union requires processing loss:
  • To receive his true partner, Matt had to “process the death of the fantasy of my wife… in order for me to meet her in reality, I have to let the fantasy die.”
  • Only by letting go, was he able to be fully ready for the connection.

    “In order to welcome in the version of her that I’m welcoming in, I have to allow the she and I that haven’t even come to be to perish.”
    – Matt Kahn (19:47)

Knowing vs. Rationalizing: Differentiating Ego and Soul

Timestamps: 27:22 – 43:58

• Ego vs. Intuition:

  • The ego seeks to fill a void, analyzes, and rationalizes. The soul knows and feels a clear “yes” before moving forward.

    “The soul says, I don’t lean in unless it’s a yes on every level. The ego says, I lean in as if it’s a yes and hope for the best.”
    – Matt Kahn (27:23)

  • On rationalization:

    “I think probably got you into trouble early on. We all rationalize because we… fear being alone, fear being rejected.”
    – Alex Ferrari (29:22)

  • Funny take on dating rules:

    “If they can’t handle your inner sixth grader, let your inner sixth grader send a text: ‘I like you. Had a great time.’”
    – Matt Kahn (31:46)

• Critical vs. Spiritual Thinking:

  “The critical thinking mind is the one that thinks it’s observing all the signs, but it’s actually piecing together a self-fulfilling prophecy…. It’s also called magical thinking.”
  – Matt Kahn (34:11, 34:19)

The Unmistakable Pull: Signs You’ve Met “The One”

Timestamps: 39:07 – 43:58

• The feeling of meeting your soulmate is unmistakable:

  “The one can’t be denied. If you’re not sure, try breaking up with them… The one can’t be denied.”
  – Matt Kahn (42:58)

  • Recurring theme: “You’re my person.”

    “There’s this pull. This magnetic thing… You’re my person.”
    – Alex Ferrari (43:48)

Growth, Wholeness, and Letting the Relationship Flow

Timestamps: 44:05 – 52:07

• The path isn’t flawless, but it is right:

  “Now it’s not gonna be smooth sailing this entire time. Now, we’re human beings. We all have our baggage… But when you’re with them… It just runs like this a little bit.”
  – Alex Ferrari (44:05)

• Matt emphasizes relationship as mutual growth:

  “Who do I desire growing with? Joy and I desire growing with each other. You and your wife desire growing with each other.”
  – Matt Kahn (44:16)

  • He shares how being “the one” for himself and Joy, independently, was what made their union possible:

    "The real one that both of us met were within ourselves... Stepping into my fullest potential was… exactly the love that this lifetime has for me."
    – Matt Kahn (49:40, 52:07)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Matt on instant recognition:

  “I know you. Where have you been?”
  – Matt Kahn (08:57)

• Matt’s cheeky take on modern dating rules:

  “Old school. I love it. Immediately, old school.”
  – Matt Kahn (31:45)

• On “magical thinking”:

  “Then we train our egos to be these searchers and seekers of spiritual signs. It’s different when it’s a sign—when it’s a sign, it’s so obvious, you don’t even know what to do with yourself.”
  – Matt Kahn (34:11)

• Soul vs. Ego in relationship:

  “The soul says, until I get a yes, I don’t lean out of friendship... The ego says, well, I’m looking for a partner, there’s one of them, this must be a sign.”
  – Matt Kahn (33:09)

• On letting go of fantasy partners:

  “In order for me to meet her in reality, I have to let the fantasy die.”
  – Matt Kahn (19:47)

• When you know, you know:

  “The one can't be denied. That should be a t-shirt!”
  – Alex Ferrari (43:34)

Important Segments and Timestamps

• How Matt met his wife / “Soul recognition” (05:35 – 08:57)
• Letting go of searching and “placing the order” (14:08 – 14:38)
• Living as a “single married person” in preparation (17:30 – 18:47)
• Processing the “death” of the fantasy partner (18:56 – 19:47)
• Soul vs. ego: relationship red flags and discernment (27:22 – 34:22)
• Signs you’ve met the one & the “critical mind” trap (37:19 – 43:34)
• Becoming whole within, not just finding “the other” (49:40 – 52:07)

Tone & Language

The conversation is honest, self-deprecatingly humorous, heartfelt, and practical. Both speakers mix spiritual insight with relatable, down-to-earth stories and a dash of irreverent comedy (Yoda figurines and all).

Closing Takeaway

This episode offers a roadmap for soulful partnership that centers on becoming whole within oneself, recognizing the unmistakable “yes” of true connection, and letting go of fantasy and ego-driven searching. Matt and Alex remind listeners that the deepest love is an inside job—and that the journey to finding “the one” is, in many ways, a journey to knowing and loving yourself.

Guest website:
Matt Kahn: mattkahn.org

For more:
Full episode, resources, and show notes at NextLevelSoul.com/450