
What if the stars were more than just distant specks of light? What if they whispered the stories of our souls, mapping out the twists and turns of our journey before we even took our first breath? On today’s episode, we welcome Vish Chatterji, a...
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Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level Soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv Our streaming platform filled with Exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at NextLevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now, let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome to the show Vish Chatterjee. How you doing, Vish?
Vish Chatterjee
I'm doing great, Alex. I'm really looking forward to our conversation and I was just so impressed with your background. It brings so many things to bear for me. It's almost like a predictor of our conversation.
Alex Ferrari
Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that, my friend. Well, you know, we've had astrologers on the show before, but we've never had a Vedic astrologer on the show. In your book, Astrology Decoded the, the Secret Science of, of Indian Sages. I'm curious to hear, because there's Chinese astrology, there's every, every culture has a version of astrology. But I'm kind of versed in a bit more than the usual person in Vedic philosophies, Vedic understandings, the Yugas. You know, I read the holy science. Very difficult, you know, but it's a deep, heavy text to read. But I kind of went down those roads, so I understand it a lot. At least I try to understand it a lot. And I'm really looking forward for you to kind of think, fill in all the gaps that I obviously didn't figure out yet. So my first question is, I love your, your background as well as an engineer, which of course leans itself to the woo, woo. When you're an engineer, you, you think you hear engineer. You're like, oh, yeah, an astrologer. So what, what caused you to, what was the inner shift that happened to you that led you to make the shift to a Vedic teacher and Vedic astrology, all that kind of stuff.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, you talked about all these different astrology systems. There's the, the Greeks, the Babylonians, the Chinese. And I guess yoga is becoming like that, right? There's American yoga is completely different to what Indian yoga truly is. And you know, we're talking about like, like the book the Autobiography of a Yogi. Was this a book about somebody who was a gymnastics master on a mat? What is a yogi? Right, right, right. And so in America, yoga has become this very physical, focused exercise. But beyond behind it, there's this amazing, sophisticated, elegant system for human development. And that's what Yogananda was teaching, right through autobiographic yogi. He was this superhuman, developing himself. So Jyotish, which is the Sanskrit word for Vedic astrology, Jyotish means the science of consciousness, science of our consciousness. So it's a system that predates any religion, any system, any one way. It's literally understanding our human consciousness, our human journey, our soul's journey. And it was cognized by people that looked very much like what's in your. That painting behind you, over your right shoulder, right there are these ancient Rishis. The Rishis, the enlightened sages of, you know, maybe 8,000 years ago that would sit in deep states of meditation and start to understand and cognize the nature of our human consciousness. And through those insights, they started to codify a system of how to perfect the human condition, the human soul. And that spawned the yoga tradition, the Vedanta tradition, the whole philosophical system of India. And Jyotish, this understanding of the planets and the stars and how to use those to understand ourselves better. So Vedic astrology is the oldest system and completely integrated with yoga and Vedanta and Ayurveda, the mind, body, medicine system. And it's a system for us to understand our human condition in a better way. That's the purpose of it. But over time, obviously now there is Western astrology just like there is Western yoga. And it developed a system that became more approachable for everyday people and more pop. Culturally. You know, you can be at a dinner party and say, hey, what's your sign? And you figure out what month you're born. You say, oh, this is my sign. And people have a chat about it, right? And it's kind of a casual conversation. What kind of yoga do you practice? Oh, I do this type. But then we divorced it from the original sort of rich tradition that it came from and the sophisticated intelligence that it came from. So I started out my life as an engineer. I worked in the auto industry as an engine engineer, like literally designing engines for cars. Then I went to MBA school. I became, became in the management ranks of the auto industry. I rose up the management ranks, I went into the tech industry. And I was like, you know, it's all about the data. Show me the data, show me the science, show me the numbers, then we'll make a business decision. And if somebody said to me in those days, hey, Vish, I have a friend who's an astrologer. I would have said, I don't believe in that stuff. That's kind of woo, like there's no science there. I don't believe in that. That's kind of made up. Maybe it's a psychic pretending to be an astrologer. I don't know what it is, but whatever they're doing, I'm scared of it. I want to stay away from that. But you know, before, like when I, when I finished my university studies, I went to India to find myself. As many young people do, you strap on a backpack and I hitchhike across northern India and I finally ended up in the Himalayas at an ashram. An ashram, a place of yoga learning. And I met a teacher there whose name happened to also be Vish. His name is Yogarishi Vishvaketu. And I started learning yoga from Vishakh and became a student of yoga. So I came back from my India travels from this ashram, started my corporate career. And every morning I would wake up and I would do my chanting, my oming, my meditation practice, my asana practice, and then I'd go forth to the world and try to conquer and be a corporate executive. So for 20 years of my corporate life, I maintained a daily morning yoga and meditation practice. And at some point, my business career started to have some real challenges. And I went to my old friend Vish, the yoga teacher and I said, you know, Vishwa, Ketu, Vishwa, what do I do? I'm having trouble in my business. He looked at me, he said, oh Vish, you do more yoga business, your business will be okay. I was like, what does that mean? What does it mean with yoga business? I'm not a yoga business person. I run companies, I run divisions, I start businesses. But along the way, those words started to become true where I started bringing the teachings of yoga beyond the mat to leadership. And so about eight years ago, I started an executive coaching practice. And what I would do is I would work with executives who want to be better leaders and use the philosophy of the yoga system to help them be more conscious and more balanced in their leadership. What if you are a corporate executive impacting all of your employees plus all of the people in the market that buy your product? What if you're just a little bit more conscious? Would that be a good thing? Doesn't that help our world? So I thought my role in the world is to bring a more conscious, yogic way of thinking to leadership. And of course, today leaders meditate Leaders think about their impact on the world. Leaders think about themselves as a spiritually intelligent being. We went from IQ to, to eq, emotional intelligence to spiritual intelligence. Right? So along the way, as anyone studying yoga in a deep way, they're going to come across Ayurveda, right? You've heard about Ayurveda, the mind body system. So Ayurveda is a system of mind, body medicine, healing where you basically study somebody's mind body constitution and you give them a prescription or remedy to improve a disease situation in their life, how to fix disease. But what I did was I took Ayurveda and applied it to leadership.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
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It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Alex Ferrari
Awesome.
Podcast Host
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?
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Alex Ferrari
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Vish Chatterjee
So in Ayurveda, there's a fiery type of mind, body constitution, an airy and an earthy. And I could basically give a questionnaire to my client. They'd fill it out. And I figured out they're a fiery leader, airy leader, or earthy leader. And based on that, give them a whole set of lifestyle remedies like how to balance your lifestyle in such a way that makes you a better leader. But in corporate America, people cheat on assessments. So if you've ever worked in a corporation, you get this Myers Briggs task or disc profile or strength finder, you take these quizzes and you sort of based on how you've conditioned yourself, you sort of almost cheat to be more of a better leader. Right. And so all my clients were coming out as this fiery executive type, but I was seeing in front of me was something different. So I went to my ayurvedic mentor and I said, you know, Dr. Suhas, I said, Dr. G, my clients are cheating on the quiz. What do I do? He said, oh, Vish, you just look at their Vedic astrology chart. I was like, astrology? I don't believe in that. First of all, you're a doctor. I'm an engineer by training. You want me to look at astrology chart? I don't believe in that. He says, no, no, no, not the Western astrology thing. Not that newspaper horoscope thing. Look at their Vedic astrology chart. It's accurate. It's accurate to the sky. I didn't know what that meant at the time. But a few clients, I started to ask, hey, Alex, would you share with me your birth time? And Alex said, yeah, sure, I will. I put down the birth time, I'd look at the chart and I'd say, you know what? This is what I see in your leadership style. And clients over and over again were stunned. They're like, how do you know this about me? Like, how do you know what I've been trying to hide all these years in my career? And then we could have a conversation about what are the strengths you really want to lean into, who are you really? And how do you bring that authentic self to your leadership? And of course, then that opened up a whole world and I started realizing this Vedic astrology system connects back to the original yoga system that I'd been trained and studied in. And it became in of itself a spiritual path for me. So, Jyotish, the Vedic astrology system is a spiritual evolutionary path, just like Yoga is, just like Ayurveda is. And that's the conclusion. I came to tell me the difference.
Alex Ferrari
Between Vedic astrology versus Western astrology. Now, I understand the newspaper, that's kind of ridiculous kind of astrology and kind of gives astrology a bad, bad, bad name. But traditional astrology, meaning Western astrology, and when done correctly, is very accurate to my, from my, my personal experience and also having some guests who, who follow that, that kind of astrology, which is exactly what you said, what's your birth time? Exactly, what's your birthday? And they could just read your chart and just go, so is that similar to Vedic astrology? Or how does it differ from that version of astrology?
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah, so. So yeah, the newspaper astrology or the cocktail party astrology is basically, what month were you born? And then there's a sign that you're assigned to, and that's predicated on the fact that the sun is in a certain section of the sky with a zodiac constellation behind it. So when they say, oh, your sun is in Taurus, they mean the sun is in the sign where Taurus was in the sky. Then you go to a real astrologer, a working astrologer, a Western astrologer, and they'll say, tell me your birth date, birth time, and then they'll generate a birth chart. And based on that, they're going to zoom in on what they call a rising sign. And that is sort of the marker of your personality. And it changes every couple hours. Now what was interesting for me is the Vedic astrology system uses calculations of the stars and the planets that are actually consistent with what you see in the sky. So this is important.
Alex Ferrari
It differs, it differs from the West.
Vish Chatterjee
It differs, okay? It Differs. So in the Vedic system, if I look at a birth chart and I take my eyes away from the chart and I look in the sky and use a telescope or even in my naked eye, what I see in the sky is consistent with what's in the chart. Because, again, the Yoga system, the Vedic system, is about the truth. So what do I see in the sky? So we don't even call it a sign. It's a constellation. It's an actual thing that's there. What happened with Western astrology, around the time that I believe it was developed, let's say 2,000 years ago or so, they picked a point in space that was consistent with the Vedic system. But the Western point in space that became 0 degrees Aries over time drifted. Every 72 years, it drifted by about a degree. Here we are sitting today in our time now in 2025, and the system has drifted about 24 degrees of space. What you thought was your sign is that could be one sign over. So that's what is tough in the Western astrology. The math to the sky is not accurate to the actual sky. But I believe Western astrologers are intuitive, and so they use their intuition to sort of make up for the mathematical gap. But as an engineer, I'm like, let me start with good math first, and then hopefully I can apply some intuition to that and get something even more accurate. So that's, I think, the first thing now, some Western astrologers are correcting the math. They're using what's called sidereal calculations, and they're correcting the math. And what's interesting is for Vedic astrologers, and you're a fan of Yogananda, a student of that lineage, we use a calculation that Lahiri developed. So Yogananda's guru, that Lahiri calculation is what many Vedic astrologers use to map the accurate positions in the sky. Lahiri was credited with getting those positions right for all Vedic astrologers.
Alex Ferrari
That's amazing. Yeah. Well, he's also the one that brought Korea yoga back. Just brought it back, period.
Vish Chatterjee
Brought it back. Exactly.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. When Babaji. When Babaji told him, hey, you got to do it. And I was. Lahiri is one of my favorite of the saints because I think it was Ram Dass who, like, said, if you feel enlightened, go spend time with your family at the holidays. And. And then I always. I always said the same thing. I'm like, you know, Yogananda is super easy to find enlightenment when you have no kids, you know, But Lahiri was. Had children. And Babaji's like, we want to show people that you can find this kind of enlightenment, spiritual path with children, with the responsibilities of being a parent and a family man and so on and so forth. And a householder as well. He was an accountant, if I wasn't mistaken.
Vish Chatterjee
Right. I think so.
Alex Ferrari
He was. If he was an accountant or bookkeeper or something along those lines back then. But, yeah, he's one of my favorite. We could. I can go on and on about.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. But that's what I found is in India, many of the astrologers are doctors, engineers, accountants, finance people by training. And so they have a householder existence, but they're also astrologers. And so they really understand the householder condition. Like, what are the challenges? Because the yogi sort of runs away into the cave and kind of moves away from society. But I believe that a yogi should be part of society. It depends on your timing, right. When is the right time, when is the right time in your life, and when is the right lifetime to really move away from it all. And what astrology does helps us understand that. That's what I found.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, It's. The thing is that. And I've said that as well, and many have said that. That to, you know, to go off to the Himalayas for 30 years and meditate in a cave, that's awesome. And that's definitely a path to go down. But in the world that we live in today, we need those yogis to come down from the mountaintops and integrate themselves into society and influence leaders and people of power and start to spread these teachings in a way that is not so monastic as it used to be, but they were also waiting. And it's not just yogis, all mystics in general from all walks of life. They had to wait until society was ready to kind of accept and integrate these teachings. Because, you know, you're looking back, even when Yogananda showed up doing what he was doing in the. In the early 1900s, I mean, he looked. He was basically an alien. I mean, it was essentially having a predator walking around. Not a predator. Like the alien predator. Not a predator.
Vish Chatterjee
People are terrified. I mean. I mean, they never. Terrified. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
They never seen a yogi with a turban and in the dress and the way he spoke, the way he looked. There was no. They'd never seen it. They never even heard of India, let alone seen someone from India. Yeah. So it was. It was very terrifying at his time. And he had a lot of challenges, as did Jesus, as did Buddha, as did many of the prophets and the saints of their day. But in today's world, I think society has now gotten to a place where we're kind of ready and hungry for this information, you know, from the success of what you've been doing, the success of what we've been doing, there's obviously a hunger. People are very, very curious. Would you agree?
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah, I think people are. Well, there's a hunger, but there isn't a lot of discipline to do the work. Right. Absolutely. That's the hard thing, right? So, you know, you go to the old guru of old times, and they say, okay, do this exercise every day for 15 minutes. Stand on this leg, do this, do this. And then you're like, why? You know, you do it for a week, and then at day seven, you're like, why am I doing this? Is this really the right one? Maybe there's a better one. Let me ask this other teacher. Or, wait, let me try this other style. You're sort of jumping around, and you never really make any progress because your. Your mind isn't satisfied. Like, at the end of the day, as Westerners, I'm Western, you know, I grew up in Hong Kong, but a Western mindset. It's this questioning, like, why is that? Is that the right thing for me?
Alex Ferrari
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Alex Ferrari
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Vish Chatterjee
So what's beautiful about astrology for me was it became much more tailor made, like based on my birth circumstance, based on what the stars were doing at the moment I was born. It gives me much more fidelity and what's the right practices for me. So what I find is, is for my clients, their intellect is satisfied to go on a spiritual path. And these are all spiritual paths. Yoga is a spiritual path. Jyotish, Vedic astrology is a spiritual path in and of itself. Just like in yoga, you get overly obsessed with the body, you just work on your asana on the mat and you forget about everything else. Same thing. Astrologers get caught up in the intellect and this planet means this and this sign means this and they get lost in the intellectual and they lose the spiritual piece of it. So whether it's a yogi or a Jyotishi or an Ayurvedic Vaidya, either way you cannot divorce from the spiritual part of it. Yoga has become so corrupted in the Western world, it has divorced itself from the spiritual connections. Right? You go to yoga class, nobody's chanting anything, there's barely a namaste at the end. They skip Shavasana these days. Like it's like what's happened. But Jyotish, because it hasn't been as adulterated, it's still very pure. So most Jyotish have a mantra practice, they have a spiritual practice, they, you know, have an altar that they're making offerings to every morning. And when they look through the chart, they see the divinity of the deities coming through the manifestation of that individual. So that's where I feel like Jyotish is still quite pure as a system and still very connected to the ancient, ancient way of things being done.
Alex Ferrari
So what is the spiritual aspect of this Vedic astrology? What I mean, other than the chanting and maybe an altar, things like that, what are the spiritual components of astrology? Because that's something I have really never run into, like with Astrology in general, it's a. It's a snapshot and it's kind of a guide. And it's kind of like what's been laid out for you in your. In your soul plan, in your life's plan are based on where you were born and timing and so on and so forth. But the spiritual concept, the spiritual aspect of that is. I've never really heard of that. So what exactly is a spiritual aspect of Vedic astrology?
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. So like you said, the Western astrologer is looking at a snapshot in time, right? They've taken a snapshot and they're trying to help you understand where your mind is at right now. What's your personality? This is what's going on. Like, let's. That's what people want to know. Why am I this way? Right. The Vedic astrology system is much deeper. It goes into understanding what is your soul trying to do. Right. So you could say Western astrology is to look at the mind and psychology. Vedic astrology look at the soul. And when you get down to the level of soul we're seeing, how does the soul then show up in the personality? Right? Because the personality can be corrupted with your ego. The more ego you have, the more you drift from your true soul nature. So the Western astrology, in a way, because it's a seasonal zodiac, it helps you understand where you're at right now, whereas the Vedic system helps you understand who are you to begin with, how far have you drifted, and how do you get back to the truth?
Alex Ferrari
And when you say truth, what do you mean by. What do you mean by truth?
Vish Chatterjee
So that's the truth. So the word soul is important, right? In Vedic system, it's called the Atman, and the soul is considered to be immortal. The soul cannot be cut by a sword, cannot be wet by water, cannot be burned by fire, cannot be dried by air, as per the Bhagavad Gita. So the soul is this enduring immortal entity that takes on different manifestations, different incarnations, right? And as you read in Yogananda's book, this is like all around him, right? And so when the soul incarnates into a particular lifetime, it shows up with a bunch of karma, a bunch of karma that has to be worked through. So, you know, the baby takes its first breath and begins this journey. And it's going to be this journey of karma. Teenage years, middle school, marriage, kids, disease, strife, accidents, blessings, financial windfalls, all sorts of things, promotions, demotions, firings, all of that karma, right? And so the soul is about to go through this journey to learn whatever it needs to learn. And because the soul is divinely connected, whatever is in the soul is reflected in the heavens. In Sanskrit we say aham, brahmasmi means I am the universe. So when you incarnate and you take your first breath, if an astrologer can paint a map of the heavens and look at the stars and planets, we're basically getting a reflection of your soul. And what is your soul trying to do this time around? So the Vedic astrology chart is basically a map of karmas that you will face in this lifetime based on whatever you've done in previous lifetimes. And so then you're like, oh man, I got this roadmap, I got this syllabus, this lesson plan of what my life is going to be, but can I do anything about it? And that's where yoga comes in. Yoga is one of the ultimate remedies to purify karma. So when you see a challenge in a birth chart, the best thing you can do is start doing serious spiritual practices, because those spiritual practices start to modify karma. How does that make sense?
Alex Ferrari
How does it matter?
Vish Chatterjee
So let's say somebody has a very aggressive Mars in their chart. And Mars is a planet of violence and war and conflict and accidents, right? So you can see the person has strong Mars. The person is likely going to be accident prone, right? The more temper they show in their life, the more rash and aggressive they are, the more chances they're going to get into some kind of an accident. And it happens. Like people are like, oh, I was rushing, I wasn't thinking, I hurt myself. Right? That's a Mars energy. Well, how do we calm down Mars energy? Right. Mars is a planet that likes needs to be cooled down. So if that person does some cooling activities, that person, let's say, goes to anger management training, some kind of therapy to understand where anger is coming from. That automatically is going to reduce Mars energy, which will automatically reduce the chance of that accident. Now from a yogic point of view, Mars in Ayurveda is called pitta. If they eat a cooling diet that cools their system automatically, the Mars energy will come down and they'll start to have less of. Exactly. Or from the Vedic astrology side, you tell them start worshiping a fierce deity like Hanuman, very strong warrior. You start singing Hanuman chalisa and you're starting to attenuate that Mars energy which reduces that karmic load that you had of an aggressive Mars, and you won't have as many accidents so we're trying to attenuate these energies through ayurvedic practices, lifestyle choices, yogic practices, spiritual practices, all of those things, because at the end of the day, we're here to manage our karma. You have karma, do something about it.
Alex Ferrari
Mr. I have to ask you, you know, you coming from a place of an engineering, you know, very logical, very, you know, and I, I know many engineers have engineers in my family, they're very like math, everything has to fit in a certain little thing. They're wonderful, wonderful people. But how did you wrap your head around all of this? You know, you're talking about karma and burning, you know, burning off karma and lightening it. Then there's this, what's in the stars? And, and this is my birth chart and all that. How did you wrap your head around all these woo woo concepts with an engineering and scientific background? Like, what was the thing that convinced you that this wasn't just a whole bunch of, you know, like, you know, snake oil essentially?
Vish Chatterjee
Right, yeah, it makes sense. So I think the first thing is that as an engineer, I love to solve problems, right? Like that's what engineers get high on. So to solve a problem, first you have to understand what is the problem, right? So you're driving down the road in your car and there's a rattle, right? Is it the engine? Is it the ball joints, is it the suspension? You know, the mechanic, you're fixing the suspension, but it turns out to be the brakes. So you got a root cause, right? So first you got a root cause. And so a lot of the problem solving technique of an engineer is let me get to the root problem. Like in Toyota and the assembly line, they used to ask five whys something breaks. They'd say, why did it break? Why did it break? They'd ask five times to get to the root of it. So that kind of inquiry is very important. And I believe in Vedic astrology to really say, okay, what is the challenge you're facing? And can I root cause it to a planetary planet system that is out of balance for that person? So root causing, step one. Then in car mechanics, you fix something, you're like, okay, it's the ball joint. I figured out it's a ball joint, I need a new ball joint, I need to stick it in there and repair it and hopefully it'll be better. And then when I put the new ball joint in, if the rattle still there, I know it didn't work, the rattle's gone. I know I got the right problem. So that mindset Applies to astrology where somebody would tell me an issue they're having, I would root cause it from the planet, tell them to do a remedy for that planet, and three weeks later I'd say, hey, has the problem improved? And they said, oh, my God, this shifted. So when they would say, yes, it worked. I just got a feedback loop that this woo woo thing of this planet connecting to this, connecting this person's problem, something improved. But maybe I just got lucky, right? Maybe I just got lucky. So then it happens for somebody else and somebody else. And now, like after 50 people have told me an issue, we've root caused it. And out of those 50 people, I gave them all these remedies, and 40 of them, things really shifted in their life, improved. I'm like, wow, that's a pretty good. This system's working. So in a way, as an engineer, I'm constantly checking, am I making this up? I don't know how many times in a reading I'll say, am I making this up? Like something happened to you back in 1995 and it seemed to be like sexual in nature. And I don't know, I'm hearing myself, I'm making this up. And the person be, oh, my God, how do you know about that? I never even told my therapist about that. And I'm sitting there going, how did I know that? How did that happen? You know, so. So you start to get this reassure, this almost feedback loop that says, you know what, there is some logic here, There is some science here, there is some system. It's just we can't measure it because there's so many variables. Right. There's a planets, there's a sign, there's a person. But what are they doing about it? Like, people, you know, human beings, we sometimes we make bad choices, right?
Alex Ferrari
Right.
Vish Chatterjee
We don't always try to improve ourselves.
Alex Ferrari
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a manager managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Alex Ferrari
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. So it's basically very evidential like you are. You're get. That's how you basically got sucked in, as you say, into this world as is that you just continuously got feedback like this is working. I don't believe it, but let me keep trying. I don't believe. Okay, well, it's obvious there's something going on and you just kept testing it as a good engineer would continue to test, to test the structure, to see where the faults were, to see where the structural integrity is solid. And you just kept pesting and testing it to the point where it's solid, it's working.
Vish Chatterjee
And can it be replicated? Because when I started my astrology work, I didn't have the intuition that other people have. So you go to a western astrologer and they're not only looking at the chart but they have this incredible intuition. So they're adding things up and they're coming up with these incredible insights. I'm an engineer. I just need the data. I want this to work. I want to be able to look at your chart without applying any intuition intuition and make an accurate assessment of who you are. Now if I can do that without any intuition, without any woo abilities and I layer in those woo woo abilities, then it's next level. And that's what I believe. Like a solid Vedic astrologer has this accurate playing field in addition to their intuition that Makes it remarkable. And that's why there's this sort of ability to really predict things to a date and a time in somebody's chart. In the Vedic system, Very, very powerful for predictive, but also very powerful for remedial. What can I do about it? You're saying, somebody's saying, look, I've been trying to have a relationship. Every relationship I get into is a disaster. They never last more than a year or two. What do I do? How do I improve my relationship? Please, Vish, I want a partner in my life. And then I'll look in their chart and I'll say, oh, well, partnership is usually Venus. Venus is love. Oh, my gosh. Their chart has some challenge with Venus. It's low in degrees or it's impacted by another planet. They've got a problem with Venus. They're telling me they have a problem with Venus. I'm seeing a problem with Venus. Let me tell them to start doing some Venus remedies now. For instance, start worshiping a female goddess, a beautiful, gentle female goddess like Lakshmi. Start worshiping that. They start doing some mantras. They start doing some practices. Randomly, quote, unquote, randomly. They meet somebody a few weeks later. I'm like, well, how did that happen? Or they say, you know, Vish, I'm not really comfortable with this whole Lakshmi thing. I don't know. Vedic Indian system. Oh, well, you grew up Catholic. Okay, well, what about going to church and lighting a candle to Mother Mary and doing a round of Hail Marys on your rosary? Oh, yeah, that's what I grew up with. I'm okay with that. They do that same energy. Same energy. So that, that's the thing is I'm as an astrologer, looking at energetic patterns and trying to adjust certain energies that are out of balance in that person's life. How you adjust those energies. Pick a system. It doesn't have to be the Indian system. Pick a system. They all lead to something.
Alex Ferrari
That's what I was going to ask you. I was like, well, a lot of people might have a problem with mantra chanting and that kind of stuff, but you're absolutely right. If, if you're doing prayer prayers to Mary, the energy is that the intention is the same. It's just the, the, the rapper that you were brought up with, the programming that you were brought up with, that's what you're just comfortable with, you know, and same goes for every other walk of life. So if you can take the ideas of what you're learning in Vedic astrology and apply it to your own system. It could work for people who have a problem with going down what we just talked about with like the chanting and this definitely, you know, or praying to a. To a Hindu God they might like. Ah, you know, I don't feel real comfortable talking to Vishnu, but I do feel comfortable talking to, yeah, Jesus or Yeshua, you know, or Buddha or something along those lines, actually.
Vish Chatterjee
Exactly right. So. So I think there's a combination of energetic shift and placebo effect taking place. So in a remedy, you start, let's say, praying to Vishnu, There's a placebo effect and an energetic effect both taking place. So if you're already not believing it, you just lost the placebo part of the effect. You just got the spiritual or the energetic part of it. Right. So if you pick something that you're comfortable with, you get both the energetic shift and that sort of faith and belief part of it, or placebo, whatever you want to call it. But I also believe in addition to having the faith for the remedy to work and committing to it and doing the work, if you do something that you did in your childhood, it gives another point of activation. If you do something that your ancestors used to do, it's even more powerful. Right. So if five generations of ancestors all did this similar kind of ritual and then you don't do it anymore and you want something to fix in your life, when you do that ritual, you have a multiplicative effect more than adopting somebody else's.
Alex Ferrari
Why? Why is that?
Vish Chatterjee
So in astrology, the principle is rahu and Ketu, which are these very powerful activating points. But when you do something that's been done for generations, it's like the energy signature is already there. Like, I had a client who was Italian and knew that his ancestors worshiped the planet. The Romans, the ancient Romans worshiped these deities, the planets. So I'm like, just do that because it's in your DNA. And those Roman gods are sitting there twiddling their thumbs, going, God, everyone forgot about me. Nobody remembers me. And then you just all of a sudden show up and you're like. And then the Roman God is like, oh, yeah, you're one of mine. Like, I remember your grandfather and great grandfather and great, great grandfather used to do this. Now you're doing this, okay, I'm going to give you a boon. So there's sort of this tapping in to forgotten traditions that were of your lineage and ancestry that really activate in a big way, more so than if you adopt somebody else's. So I would always say combine like, do always honor your traditions with whatever you're adopting in your own life.
Alex Ferrari
When you said. When you said that, you know, you start praying to the Roman gods, the planets, you know, like that and that thing, and they're just sitting around twiddling their thumbs, a lot of us thinking about that. And this is where I think there might be a stumbling block, and I'd love to hear your thoughts about it going back. Let's say I'm Greek and I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go to Zeus, okay? I want. I'm going to pray. Pray to Zeus or Aphrodite or any of the thousand. They almost gave it. They almost gave the Hindus a run for their money with the amount of gods they have, though Hindus still. Still are the kings of the amount of gods.
Vish Chatterjee
Have a lot of gods, but big lines, very long lines. You. You want to talk to Vishnu. Get in line.
Alex Ferrari
Exactly.
Vish Chatterjee
Very busy right now.
Alex Ferrari
Right. So my. But my point is, when we think about Zeus, we think about a deity that was basically conceptual. Not a human person, Not a. Like, you know, Jesus was someone who walked the Earth. Buddha was someone who walked the Earth. Yogananda was someone who walked the earth. Where Zeus is more mythical, more story. There's nothing there. So where. If I were to pray, let's say I'm Greek and I start to pray to Zeus, is it to the energy of a Zeus because there wasn't an actual Zeus on a Mount Olympus? Or am I just overthinking it?
Vish Chatterjee
It's such a great question, Alex. So in India, many, many deities, right?
Alex Ferrari
What is it, like 5,000, something like that?
Vish Chatterjee
I think it's like 30 million.
Alex Ferrari
I mean, there's so many.
Vish Chatterjee
There's one for everything. Yeah, there's one for everything. But how many gods are there in Hinduism?
Alex Ferrari
Yeah.
Vish Chatterjee
Is it polytheistic or monotheistic? Hinduism is actually a monotheistic tradition. There's only one God. There's one God with many, many forms. So the idea is that. And this is the Vedic system, which then Hinduism derived from the Vedic system. The concept is that God is beyond our understanding, too complicated, too esoteric and abstract for our mind to comprehend.
Alex Ferrari
Right.
Vish Chatterjee
But that's who. So. So it's like, if I want. Let's say I want. I want my stock to go like, I invest in the stock, and I want to do really well. So I would never do this myself, but let's say I'm going to pray to God and say, hey, God, please make my stock price go up. Right. So. But I can't figure out who that God is. I'm just like, it's this kind of entity, big, omnipresent everywhere. I like who. So now make this finance God that's, like, covered in dollar bills and stock and maybe has a bull. It looks like the stock market. And now I start worshiping that because it's this representation or archetype of money and stock.
Alex Ferrari
Sure.
Vish Chatterjee
Good. Good or bad, let's suspend judgment. That's an archetype. So each of the Hindu gods or each of the Greek gods are an archetype that allows our mind to kind of focus in on something. Like, I want love in my life. I worship Lakshmi, and she gives that kind of love energy. So when you worship the deity, you're using the deity as a stepping stone for your mind to concentrate. But eventually you go beyond the deity. So even if I worship Ganesh, when I worship Ganesh, the goal is to go beyond him and realize he's just a form. Beyond him is the true without form.
Alex Ferrari
Okay, so what you're saying. So what you're saying is these gods that we are focusing our attention on, they're basically a tool for us to focus.
Vish Chatterjee
So like a zoom, actually leapfrog, right.
Alex Ferrari
To focus first, then go beyond afters, but without the. Without them, it's too difficult to go somewhere else. You need their doorway to kind of go beyond them, but you need them to go and whatever that flavor is.
Vish Chatterjee
For you to focus your energy. Right now, who are you really focusing on? The idea is you're actually activating the energy in yourself, because as the Vedic tradition understands, the God is within you. The divine is within you, the super being is within you. So when you're worshiping this particular stock market, you know, archetype or whatever we came up with, you're actually worshiping that archetype in yourself. You're activating that energy signature at your soul level, which, when your soul level gets activated, it shifts the circumstances of your life to make that change happen.
Alex Ferrari
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
Vish Chatterjee
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Vish Chatterjee
Now then you bring in somebody like Buddha or Yogananda or Jesus. These are humans, right, that walk the earth, but they had this God connection, divinity. So by worshiping them alone, they become the vehicle to the divine. They're a vehicle, right? So, so, you know, Jesus is like a guru. He says, like, I, I will suffer for your sins. That's what a guru does. Like, you have a bunch of bad karma. I'll take it on for you. I'll suffer and you'll be. Be better. So if you just pray to that, that human that walked the earth who has divine connection, that being clears up your karma as well. So it doesn't really matter what path you pick. The religious traditions, the spiritual traditions, they all get you to the same place. And as an astrologer, what I'm doing, I'm saying, okay, here are the challenges in your chart. And there's different levels of remedies. If you're open to your religion, if you're open to spirituality, those remedies are very effective. If you're not open to those, there's other things. Let's say you were very violent in a past life. You were a warrior and you destroyed and killed a lot of people. That's Coming back on you, you may have a lot of challenges with Mars energy in your life. Start donating to veterans projects. Start volunteering and helping warriors. I have a very difficult Mars in my chart. I do a lot of work for ex combat soldiers. I help them and help them through their ptsd, help them through their managing everyday life. I make donations to veterans organizations and that way I'm pay off the karma that I owed. It's not a spiritual thing. I'm not, you know, I could be sitting there and worshiping a warrior deity, but instead I'm just doing active volunteer work and donations in that area of life. So the remedies are really quite a range. It doesn't have to be a spiritual thing.
Alex Ferrari
So I have to ask you this question I've asked a lot of times on the show, and you've. Because you've mentioned past lives, to my understanding, there is no such thing as a past life or a future life. All lives are happening at the exact same time, which is very difficult for our little brains to compute. To compute. When you're saying past. And this comes from mystics. I've spoken to channels and many other people. This concept kept coming up and I get it. And they use the analogy of like, like a stack of records or a stack of plates or something like that. And you can kind of jump back. They're all playing at the same time, but you can kind of jump back and forth between them, if you will. It's a weird. It's hard for us to understand.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. Because we have to. It's a lie.
Alex Ferrari
There's a.
Vish Chatterjee
That's. Yeah, we.
Alex Ferrari
We have to have in our, in our, in our minds. There has to be a beginning, there has to be an end. Because that's all we know when we hear the concept of God, like he's always been or it's always been. Source has always been and will never not be. Your soul has always been and never has. There was no creation of the soul. The soul has always been. This is just a different expression of it. And so on and so forth. So have you heard of this? Everything's happening all at once. And if you did, how do you, how do you wrap your head, your engineering head around it?
Vish Chatterjee
Well, I mean, first of all, is your past life happening right now or is it happening in the future? Has it not happened yet? That's also not known. Right. And your future life could have already happened. So you don't quite know. And just like the deity, like the reason we pick a statue and a Form is to give our human mind something to grasp on, to activate our deeper soul. At the end of the day, we're using the intellect. That is a God given gift of ours, right? We have the intellect, the ability to process and think in order activate a deeper soul level. So same thing with lives. If I say, hey, in your past life this happened, your mind can kind of wrap around it and understand. Therefore this life, I have to do something about it. And at the end of the day we're talking about this life right now. Doesn't matter if the past life is happening simultaneously if it's going to happen in the future or happen before. It doesn't. Because the remedy of what you have to do is right here and now. Like, like Ramda said, be here now. That's all that matters. So when people say, oh, I need to do a past life regression, I didn't know what I was in the past life. It's like, be here now is the answer. Be here now. But because our mind is so curious, the framework of the past life was in the past. The future life is to come allows you to then do something with your life right now. Right? So, so even sometimes people ask me about the Yugas, what Yuga are we in? I'm like, I don't know. It's like, you know, my, my role is to help counsel people and find a way to improve their life situation, improve their karmic situation. Whatever explanation I have, if it works for that mind, then that's what I'll use. But I don't have to get into sort of the debate of, you know, what Yuga and what life is, when and all that. It's not so relevant.
Alex Ferrari
Well, since you brought, since you brought the Yugas up, which to my understanding, the Yugas were presented to us by Yukteswa in the holy science. Is that correct?
Vish Chatterjee
That's what I understand. Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. So that he, he brought this. And for everyone listening, Yukteswar was the, the guru of Yogananda. The direct guru of Yogananda. So according to the Yugas, we start off here in enlightenment. There's a circle. Here's enlightenment. Here's the Dark Ages at the bottom. So at 12 o' clock it's enlightenment. We're as close to source as possible. At 6 o' clock we're in the dark ages. And it's a 26 or 24. I always get them confused. 26 or 24, 000 year cycle. We are now, to my understanding, on our way back up, which Kind of makes sense. The Dark Ages was basically those 500 years that nothing got done. Like it was just literally the Dark Age until the Renaissance came. And then everything started to come back up. So we're on our way up. I wanted to hear what the Vedic astrology or what you've seen in Vedic astrology in regards to humanity's lifeline, humanity's where we are, where we're going. Because it seems, and I talk about this a lot because I think it's really important to allow people to understand what's happening right now. We are going through a very chaotic time and it seems to be speeding up. Time seems to be speeding up. Things are happening so much faster. Technology is growing very fast. Everything and things that worse, old systems, old institutions are cracking and failing and showing the, the weak points that they never did before. I always use the Vatican as an example. When I was growing up, you know, you couldn't. That was Rome. It's like the Roman Catholic Church. You couldn't. It didn't go wrong. Obviously since then there's been a couple of hiccups along the way and people are. And people are leaving organized religion in. In by the. By the millions, looking for something deeper, something that doesn't have the dogma, it doesn't have the fear based. Yeah. So while the world is going through so much, a little bit of. Not a little bit, but a lot of chaotic things. I'd love to hear what astrology has a. Vedic astrology has to say about humanities. Where we are, where we're going where. Where we are in its cycle right now and where we're going to be going over the next 50 years, 100 years. Because I do believe that there is a shift in consciousness. There's absolutely a shift in consciousness throughout humanity. Or else you and I wouldn't be having this conversation in a public forum that could possibly be seen by millions of people. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on it and what you've come across.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. So the argument of yugas is debated by scholars. Right. Some scholars say we're in the middle of the darkest time right now. Some people say, no, we've come out the other side, we're getting out of it. And you know, because again, I'm focused on the individual and the individual's journey. What really matters for you is the most important thing. Right. Where are you in the cycle? Are you rising to consciousness? Are you in the depths of darkness? Because we each go through our micro yugas in our own being, in our Own life. Sure, sure. And you know, the U.S. which is, which is where you and I are based at this point. There's a birth chart for that, there's a birth chart for the Vatican. And so as an astrologer, I will pull up a birth chart of any company individual country and look at that birth chart and see what is it going through. And if I pull a birth chart for the US which is I picked the date July 4th, 1776, around 5:30pm in the evening, I figure that's when the last signature in the document was ratified as a birth time. And based on that birth time, we are in what's called Sadhusati, which means Saturn going over the moon. And when it happens in a human being, it's all the foundations and structures they believed in are being torn down. For them to finally feel so desperate that they look up to the heavens and try to connect to the divine. That's what happens for a human being. You get torn down. Everything you relied on gets pulled away and you finally get pushed into corner, you have nowhere to look but up. If I apply that to a country, could I say that at the US right now we have lots of things being torn down. We're starting to question who we really are and we're starting to look up and say, please give me an answer, I need to know something. I think it describes it quite well. If that's an accurate understanding of the US birth chart, then it is a time for us to have a reckoning and figure out what do we really stand for as a nation but also as an individual, who are you? Because if you're born in this country and you're living in this country in this time, in this Yuga, then it's a question to you as well based on what's happening in your country that you live in. What does that mean for you? What choices are you making that are moving you towards wholeness and what choice are you making individually? They're moving you away from homeless, away from your soul. So you know this idea of like what is your next level soul existence? That's what it's coming down to. How far have you deviated from who you really are? And it really doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum you are on, it's everybody's having that question, what do I really believe in? What do I really stand for? And so that's the whole point of this Vedic astrology system is to try to discover your soul. And what is it truly trying to do?
Alex Ferrari
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion won. 20 million is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365.
Alex Ferrari
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Vish Chatterjee
And losing. Forget about judging. Oh, they did this bad. They did this good. What does it mean for me? What does it mean for my journey?
Alex Ferrari
So, Fish, it sounds you said something really interesting that is like that you. That people are starting to ask themselves, what do I stand for? Who truly am I? And it sounds like the reason that we're having these deep contemplations on a mass level now, hence why, you know, this kind of work, these kind of shows are becoming more and more popular is because earlier in in human history, we were told who we are. We were told by institutions, by politicians, by leaders, by business, by medicine, by every institution around the world told us what to do. But now the belief in those systems are starting to fail. Because we've seen the cracks. We've seen the wizard behind the curtain in, like, in Oz. So we're starting to question everything now. I mean, when you and I were growing up, you and I are of similar vintage. You know, the news was the news, didn't question the news. That was just never a thing. You just watched the evening news and whatever they said was pretty much what it was. Now there's fake news, there is skewed news, there's skewed mass media, even Hollywood films, even music, even books. There's. It's. It's all skewed now to different political or agendas and things like that. So now we're. It seems like there's a lot of chaos because we're not being told what to do anymore. And we're trying to figure it out. Because now that the institution that you believed in is starting to crumble, as you were saying, that these institutions are starting to fall, then you need to look inward, which is scary. We don't want to look inward. We, a lot, most people just want to be told, hey, what I don't want to do. Throughout history, humanity is like, always looking for someone else to give them the answer. Because if they look inside themselves, they have to take responsibility. If I'm. If I'm following a leader and they screw up, you can blame them and, you know, and hang them or burn them at the stake, but when it's inside, it's different. So is that what you think is happening right now with people? Because it seems like there just seems to be a lot of, like, you know, chickens without heads around there.
Vish Chatterjee
So let's say your truth is here. Your truth is right here. And you never want to look at it. So you take in all the influence of the outside world and you drift to here. So now you're way far out, right? You've formed an identity and a being that is completely removed from who you really are because of what everything told you to be. I believe our purpose of human life every lifetime is an opportunity for us to come back to our true center, whatever that is. Your center, my center, are going to be different. But your job is to come back to your center. My job is come back to my center. And because of family conditioning, media conditioning, the world around us, our teachers, our friends, we drift from who we really are. And the more you drift, the more the planets start to try to correct you, especially Saturn. So Saturn is the course correcting. Planet Saturn wants everything to be in line with truth. Saturn is a planet of almost the cruel truth. So the more you drift, the more Saturn comes in and starts tapping on your shoulder saying, hey, you're a little far off. Come back in. You ignore it. So now the tab becomes more of a pounding. You keep ignore it. Then Saturn puts you in a hospital bed. That's how Saturn works. And finally you're like, oh, this is who I am. And then you come back. So the more that you automatically come back to your own truth, the less pounding Saturn has to do on you, the less misery it has to inflict on you. You. So in all situations in life, whatever time of history we're in, it's always about you as an individual finding your true soul purpose, your true soul truth. And the more you drift from it, the more pain you're going to feel around you. And all of the stuff happening, whether it's in your state capital, your country's capital, another nation, in your family's home, in your neighbor's house, whatever it is, everything happening around you are all like in a way, the universe communicating with you, you. And the way you're reacting to it tells how far you are from your own truth. The more inflamed you're getting, the farther you are from your truth. You know, Yogananda, if he's walking the earth today, he's not bothered by any of that. He's living in his truth. Jesus, when he walked, he lived in his truth, right? So that's, in a way, these beings that walked, like Buddha or Jesus or Yogananda or Krishna or any of them, we're trying to become like that them. We want to walk the earth in such a way that no matter what's happening, our center remains grounded and we're true to our center. And the planets are just serving their purpose in helping you discover that they're not there trying to inflict evil. At the end of the day, the planets are there to help you find your truth. And so Vedic astrology is a practice to try to help somebody connect to their true soul being, live in accordance and harmony with your soul.
Alex Ferrari
So if the US, as you pulled the US's chart, and we use the US for example, but this could be applied to any, any chart for any country. If you can find the date of its, you know, birth, if you will close to it, according to your chart that you pulled on the us, you're saying right now things are being pulled down, destroyed, There's a reckoning with what we are going to figure out, who we are as a nation, who we are as individuals within that nation? And what part in the world do we want to really play as far as the. The play that we're playing or the movie that. The movie that we're playing in the Earth? So where does this go according to the chart in the next 10 years, in the next 20 years, next 40 years, where does the. The US's chart, since you brought the US up go? And then how does that interact with other. Did you pull charts for other people, other countries, other things like that? I'd love to hear that if you did.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. So there's a whole branch called mundane astrology, which is the astrology of the mundane world. And those astrologers pull charts all the time of countries. You know, I focus on individuals, like people, and then based on what I know about people, I'm trying to apply it to a country's chart and see if it sticks or not. Right. I don't spend a lot of time analyzing the US chart. It's just for my own sometimes just my own comfort. I'm like, okay, it seems crazy. And then I look, I'm like, oh, yeah, it is crazy. Okay, good. Phew. I have to worry about it. We're just supposed to go through this, right? And, you know, the way I look at it is, you know, where we are now is the best served to deliver the karma that we all deserve, you know, as a nation. You know, I'm an immigrant here, but I'm an American now. Like, I became an American citizen. So for me, this is my adopted country. This is. This is where I am. And so I've tied my karma to it. So whatever America's done in the past, good or bad, it's tied to me now because I've made this my home. And so for all the bad things America's done, we have to suffer. And so I'm going through that suffering in my own way as. As we all are. So. But when I look at the US chart, this Sadistati, the Saturn over the moon, when it's happened for people, I remember this client I had who kind of the first Sadistati I really zoomed in on, and I said, wow, February of 20, what I think is 2016 or 17, I said to him, you're going to go through some really, really trying times, going to be some challenges. How are you going to stay sane through it? How are you going to stay happy through it? Was the question I'd asked him. And he didn't believe me. But he came up with some things I like to do this for fun. I like to do this for fun. So I put him on some homework to do all these fun things for that amount of time so he can get through the period. And I never heard from him again. I was like, I wonder what happened to the guy. Two years later, he shows up and. Two years. About that. That span of that crazy time, he said, you'll never believe it, Vish. My wife served me divorce papers on the date you said. She kicked me out of the house. I became homeless and my job fired me all within the same three weeks. And I literally didn't know what to do with myself except for that list of fun stuff that we came up with. And that's what I leaned into, and that's what got me through the time. And I thought, that's horrific. You lost your home, you lost your wife, you lost your job. You lost everything. That's got to be the lowest, like, you know, crushing. And then he said to me, yeah. But I looked back, and it turned out that it was the most powerful time in my life where I really found myself. That stuck with me. It's like he had to go through that pain to find himself. Is that where we are as a country now? Do we have to go through some pain now? And in four or five years, will we look back and said, you know what? That's when we really discovered who we are. Maybe.
Alex Ferrari
Isn't that what happened during World War II? Like, we. We decided as a country who we were going to be before, after, before, during and after World War II. I mean, the power of the United States was based around winning and winning World War II and all the things that we established around the world. The petrodollar, all that. All that was created basically because we won and we were the great liberator and all that stuff. But we decided that was a very tough time. Many a lot of lost lives and the Greatest Generation and all that kind of stuff. But that was a turning point for the US as was the Civil War. As was the Revolutionary War. These were moments in time that we were challenged as a nation.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah.
Alex Ferrari
And I think we're. We're. I think we're ramping up. I don't think it's gotten as bad as it's gonna get. I think we're ramping up for some. For a little bit of trying times. Would you agree? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney. Attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
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Alex Ferrari
Wow.
Podcast Host
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Alex Ferrari
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Vish Chatterjee
I feel like the peak of it was actually around Covid time based on the chart around that timing. And we're sort of coming down from it. So it's hard to say because what do we see on the news? How accurate is it? What is the rhetoric and what's really truth behind it? But from an astrology point of view, I think we're just past the peak and hopefully improving. I'm a little bit more hopeful than that.
Alex Ferrari
I hope so too, brother.
Vish Chatterjee
I feel hopeful. And the US Also has a very blessed chart. It is a very blessed land. It's a very blessed nation. And I think that in the long run, we're moving towards good. In the long run, we're moving towards where Sagittarius Rising is the chart that I have which is ruled by Jupiter. And Jupiter is a very powerful, benefic planet that is a good, generous, kind planet and I think we'll move towards that. It's a correction. You have to think of the long span of time. Like what will things be like in 20 years? What will things be like in 10 years? Right now we're just stuck in what's it going to be like next week? And I, you know, that's, I mean.
Alex Ferrari
Listen, listen right Now, I mean 2025 started off with a hell of a bang already. So there's a lot of stuff that happened in the first in January and it's been, it's like, holy crap, this just started. This year just started as of this recording. So we're like really interested to see where it all goes. One thing I wanted to ask you about humanity's awakening of consciousness. What is from your studies in the Vedic traditions? Is this a time where humanity is awakening, is that it is raising its consciousness? As if you go with the Yugas. We are moving towards a higher level of consciousness. Hence why we're able to access so much more technology, much more knowledge. The Internet's connected us like this. I mean this is pretty magical. If you, if either of us would have told, told the story to ourselves when we were 10, we were like, you're out of your mind. Or this for God's.
Vish Chatterjee
That's right.
Alex Ferrari
It would have been sci fi complete. But look, this is the world we're in. So we're accessing a lot more information now and we're becoming, I think we're becoming more conscious. But I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Vish Chatterjee
Right, but the consciousness is also susceptible. Right. So technology is the domain of Mercury and Rahu. These are kind of the two energies. And Mercury is a teenager energy. So it doesn't always know what to do with its knowledge and information. Jupiter is the wise teacher that has the wisdom, but may not be very tech savvy. Mercury is very tech savvy, has a lot of information but not a lot of wisdom. And that's kind of where are we raising consciousness becomes the question and the story. And you know, Vedic astrology is full of mythology. The mythology was that Jupiter ran an ashram, a learning center. And Jupiter was kind of the guru, the teacher. And his wife kept saying, hey, come, come, let's make love. And he's like, no, no, I don't, I don't have time for that. I need to do my rituals. If I do all the rituals, then our marriage will be fine. So she kind of like got bored of him and ended up eloping with the moon. So the moon and Jupiter's wife eloped and they had a kid called Mercury. And Mercury was really bright, shining, smart kid, but this illegitimate son of Jupiter. And so when, when they returned to the ashram, Jupiter was very upset, but he found the boy so charming, he adopted him and said, you know what? You can be my own son. Because the moon, who was the guy who had the affair, already flipped off to the next relationship. So we always remember that Jupiter and Mercury. Mercury is like an adopted son of Jupiter. Jupiter is the wisdom of the ages, but sometimes not very practical and can let his wife kind of drift away because he's too busy doing rituals. And then Mercury is full of information, full of knowledge, very charming, but doesn't have the wisdom of the years. And so when you think about consciousness rising, yes, we're getting very tech smart. We have AI now, right? But how do we use it in the right way without the Jupiter grounding? So you don't want to get so caught up in religion and rituals that you forget about practicality, but you also want to be so into tech that you forget about the grounded use of it. So this, you know, this Jupiter has to adopt Mercury in a way and we have to have a way to ground ourselves in our spiritual practices so that when we access technology and all this information, we use it in a wise way. Now is that happening on a global scale? People get wiser, more conscious, they love technology and they stop their spiritual path and they get, get lost in the tech. That's the challenge. So yes, I can see a little bit of consciousness rising, but it keeps falling into over intellectualization and a lack of the wisdom stuff. So my advice to everyone listening is, you know, yes, embrace technology. You can't ignore it. You can't be like a Luddite, but at the same time, don't forget your spiritual grounding and spiritual practices. Like, if you're going to use AI, fine, but have a good solid morning practice of your spiritual work. The si. Like the spiritual intelligence, get that working, get the human intelligence working, then employ the technology. But don't get so lost in the technology that you've forgotten the humanity. I read the other day that somebody, you know, made a boyfriend on AI and was spending 50 hours a week with their AI boyfriend. It's like you, you lost your basic human consciousness there, right? So it has to be bath. And so I believe is consciousness rising. I can see it in bits and spurts, but it comes up to our responsibility. If we continue the consciousness rising or we get tricked by our own innovations.
Alex Ferrari
I think that the curiosity and the searching has definitely ramped up. But I agree with what you're saying that people. Because people can get addicted to just watching spiritual podcasts or reading spiritual books or taking spiritual courses, but they don't do anything with it. They just. By listening to it, it's. Or watching it is. Is enough for them, but they actually have to listen to what is being said in these shows or in courses or in books, and actually in. Put it into practice. And that's where I think a lot of people, like you said at the very beginning, they lack the discipline to do that because it's hard. You know, it's a hard waking up every morning being. Being, you know, being. Doing your spiritual practice every single morning without fail. It takes. It takes a lot of. Of, you know, energy to do that and discipline to do something like that. You know, unlike, like, the yogis on the other side, when they went into a cave for 30 years, you know, and barely ate and met and meditated for 10, 12, 15 hours a day, that's another level. But there was no balance there. It was so far off the spiritual. They were disconnected essentially from the earthly plane at that point. You're disconnected from the earthly plane where masters like Yogi, like Yogananda and Jesus and Buddha, they balance the two so beautifully. And that's where I think we're supposed to be here. Because if you go so far into the spiritual, well, why are you here? Like, what's the point of you enjoying this third dimension, right? Does that make sense?
Vish Chatterjee
If you're born into Bhu Loka, Buloka means the earthly plane. To me, it's like the Disneyland of karma. You're in a Disneyland to work through your karmas, so you can't bypass it, right? Like, if you're born into Buloka, if you're born into Disneyland, you got to go on all the rides, right? You got to go on all the rides to burn out the karma. So if you try to bypass it, it won't work. The karma will catch up. If you are a serious spiritual aspirant, you can transcend all that karma and burn it off and purify it and then, of course, go into enlightenment. But even if you're trying to learn, right, you're listening to podcasts, you're listening to teachers, you're reading books, you're not really getting the information if you don't have your spiritual practice. Like, even in the Vedic astrology books, when you read the texts, they're very cryptic. Information is not in the words. Even Patanjali's yoga sutras, right? You read the word like even the first one, you read yoga vritti nirodha number two, right? It's like yoga is a cessation of the fluctuation of the mind. You could spend a lifetime just trying to know that one sutra. It's just one line. But to really get the information from it, you have to open up the spiritual channels. So when you do your morning sadhana, it's called sadhana, your morning disciplines where you're connecting the divine, your yoga practice, your pranayama, asana, dhyan, meditation, all the limbs, right? Yama, niyama, asana, pranayam, dharana, pratyahara, dharana, dhyan, samadhi. You do it all together. You open up certain channels that when you hear somebody speak, you're capturing the information that isn't communicated in the words. When you read a text, you're capturing the information that isn't written in that line. You're able to see and absorb between the lines. So whatever is happening in the world, you can better deal with it and read between the lines. If you have that disciplined practice and that every yoga, through yogi, through the ages has preached morning sadhana, that's the most important thing.
Alex Ferrari
So, Vish, if anybody wants to get into Vedic astrology, what would be the first steps? Besides obviously buying your book Astrology Decoded, what would be the first steps that someone could go. Go down the rabbit hole.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. So when I first came across Vedic astrology and I was getting more interested in it, I started picking up the books that were out there and I got confused very quickly. I just found them really complicated. And even when I started having clients ask me, hey, how do I get into it? And I'd give them the beginner beginner book, they'd be like, oh, my God, this is too much. Chapter one. I'm lost. So my goal with Astrology Decoded was to put a book out there that is really an on ramp. A basic, basic understanding of how to just get your dip your toes in the water.
Alex Ferrari
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident in.
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365.
Alex Ferrari
Wow.
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
Vish Chatterjee
So I just covered the basic. Here are nine planets that we use in Vedic astrology and here are their personalities. Mars, the fiery warrior. Saturn, the disciplinarian. Mercury, the technology. You know, technology whiz. Understanding those planetary energies is the first step. And then noticing how they're showing up in your life. Right. So my assignment would be read about each planet and then notice, oh, there's this really techie person come my life. That's Mercury. Oh, this really angry person, red face. Okay, there's a Mars energy. Oh, there's somebody who's very full of love and harmony and wants, okay, that's a Venus energy. So notice these energies showing up in your life. Oh, there's a wise teacher speaking. It must be Jupiter energy speaking. Right. Then in my book, I get into the signs, which are just expressions of the planets. So Sagittarius is one expression of Jupiter. Pisces is another expression of Jupiter. And that becomes a little more subtle. So it's about observing the world around you and noticing the planets are constantly playing with you. You every step of the way. They're always there showing up in different ways. Then if you start to feel like, okay, this is working, this communicating. You can obviously pull your chart, right? I have a chart calculator on my site, vishchattergy.com you just put in your birth info and it'll generate a birth chart for you. The accurate position to the sky, the real positions in the sky. And I'll tell you, this is your rising sign and this is the planet that rules your rising sign. That planet becomes the most important thing for you. Start to honor that planet. I've got a bunch of remedies in there of things you should do. Like if Saturn is the ruler of your chart, you must be walking every day. Saturn likes slow walking movement. If you have Mars as the ruling planet, start doing exercise every day, vigorous exercise, simple things, right? So just start to develop a relationship without getting lost in intellect. And this sign means this and this prediction, this. Start to like develop a relationship with this family of karmic agents.
Alex Ferrari
Beautiful. Beautiful. Now I'm going to ask you a few questions. I ask all my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
Vish Chatterjee
I would say living in alignment with your soul, karma. So you could say your soul karmic blueprint. So when you understand your astrology chart and you live to that, you start to find fulfillment automatically. And you can do that either by understanding your chart, living to it, or just doing yoga. If you're truly doing yoga in its full sense, you automatically get there. You don't need a chart. That's, that's the point.
Alex Ferrari
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Vish, what advice would you give them?
Vish Chatterjee
I would say don't worry about it. So don't worry about it. Don't, don't worry so much. Don't sweat all the details. Don't sweat the small stuff would be one of the things I would say. And the other is everything that's happening to you is happening for a reason. It's all moving in the right direction. Don't let it trip you up.
Alex Ferrari
How do you define God or source beyond definition? What is love?
Vish Chatterjee
God.
Alex Ferrari
And if you could ask God or source one question, what would it be?
Vish Chatterjee
Would it be a question or a request?
Alex Ferrari
Go for it. Either one.
Vish Chatterjee
The request would be to just be more apparent every day, every moment. That would be the request, can you be more apparent and more obvious every moment? And the question would be, why aren't you more obviously more apparent every moment? But then he, she, it becomes very apparent and very obvious every moment. So it's like constantly getting answered.
Alex Ferrari
And what is the ultimate purpose of this life?
Vish Chatterjee
To connect to your soul. To connect your. Your divinity in your soul.
Alex Ferrari
And how do we find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world? And pick up a copy of Astrology Decoded.
Vish Chatterjee
Yeah. Astrology Decoded is available worldwide, everywhere books are sold. You can also go to vishchatterjee.com, v I-S-H C-H-A-T-T-E-R-I.com and there's links to the book. There's links to calculate your own chart. And if you want to find me, you can find me through there.
Alex Ferrari
Vish, it has been such a pleasure talking to you, my friend. I had a ball talking to you. I learned a lot about Vedic astrology today. And hopefully this will help help some other people go down the road of vidic astrology and help them. Help them awaken and find what they're looking for. So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to help awaken the planet, my friend. So thank you again.
Vish Chatterjee
It was a pleasure. Alex, I love this conversation with you. And I'm sure by now you understand it is fully a spiritual system. To your question, yes.
Alex Ferrari
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Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going?
Podcast Host
Today it's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the, the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365 wow.
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Dan Morgan from Morgan Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
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Host: Alex Ferrari
Guest: Vish Chatterji, Vedic Astrologer
Date: February 13, 2026
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This riveting episode dives into the depths of Vedic astrology, the power of ancient wisdom, and the promise—and perils—of a defining shift for humanity centered around 2026. Renowned Vedic astrologer and executive coach Vish Chatterji joins Alex Ferrari for a wide-ranging conversation about the spiritual science of Jyotish, the differences from Western astrology, karma, soul purpose, and how the collective and individual journeys are reaching a pivotal moment. Drawing on personal transformations, technical rigor, and deep spiritual insight, Vish unpacks why the coming years may mark a profound turning point for mankind.
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Timestamps: 31:39 – 46:24
Notable Quote
“Each of the Hindu gods or Greek gods are like archetypes—the deity is a stepping stone for the mind to concentrate. Eventually, you go beyond the deity and realize the God is within you.”
— Vish Chatterji [45:20]
Timestamps: 51:01 – 53:11
Timestamps: 53:11 – 77:09
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Timestamps: 80:42 – 85:08
On the difference between Western and Vedic astrology:
“The Vedic system is about the truth—what do I see in the sky?”
— Vish Chatterji [17:19]
On karma and free will:
“You have karma, do something about it.”
— Vish Chatterji [31:39]
On facing collective upheaval:
“We’re at a time when all the foundations are being torn down so we’re forced to look up for meaning.”
— Vish Chatterji [55:46–58:24]
On the escalating pace of change:
“Time seems to be speeding up. Technology is growing very fast. Old systems, old institutions are cracking and failing…”
— Alex Ferrari [53:23]
On technology and spiritual discipline:
“If we continue the consciousness rising or we get tricked by our own innovations, that’s the big question.”
— Vish Chatterji [76:45]
On spiritual practice as the true key:
“You’re not really getting the information if you don’t have your spiritual practice. …When you do your morning sadhana, you capture the information that isn’t in the words.”
— Vish Chatterji [78:47–80:42]
Explore more:
“At the end of the day, the planets are there to help you find your truth… Vedic astrology is here to help you live in accordance and harmony with your soul.”
— Vish Chatterji [65:14]
Listen to the full episode for more stories, practices, and direct spiritual insight as we stand at the threshold of a new era.