How to Release Fear and Pain in This Life with Niko Kapoutsos

Summary

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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode: How to Release Fear and Pain in This Life
Guest: Niko Kapoutsos
Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features a profound conversation between host Alex Ferrari and psychic medium and spiritual teacher Niko Kapoutsos. Together, they navigate the mysteries of identity, spiritual awakening, and the mechanics of mediumship. Niko, with his grounded and direct style, explores why fear and pain are woven into human experience and offers practical insights on transcending suffering by understanding the deeper architecture of our souls.

The episode dives into:

• The distinctions between human identity and spiritual essence
• The mechanics of mediumship and trance states
• Parallel realities and the illusion of time
• The purpose of suffering and pain
• Practical advice on healing and living in alignment with ESSENCE

The conversation is inviting yet deep, skipping “woo” for lived experience and systematized spiritual knowledge accessible to listeners of all backgrounds.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Niko’s Background: From Greek Orthodoxy to Mediumship

• (03:54) Niko describes being raised Greek Orthodox, where “mediumship is taboo, it's devil worship.”
• His family, especially his mother, stopped speaking to him because of his spiritual path, which he sees as “ironic and intentional for his soul’s growth.”
• He clarifies the historical context of Greek Orthodoxy, emphasizing its roots and differences from other Christian denominations.

Quote:

“I knew that I wasn’t part of the Greek religion. But I continued… I was always open-minded and found my own lane and it’s perfect.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [05:03]

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2. Mechanics of Mediumship: Not an Ability, but Awareness

• (08:27) Niko reframes mediumship: “It’s not an ability… Once you understand the mechanism, the experience becomes something that can be recognized and stabilized rather than something mysterious.”
• Explains the three organizing components of experience: Awareness, Identity, and Expression.
• Identity often interferes with the flow of spiritual information; reducing identity’s influence leads to clearer mediumship and channeled states.

Quote:

"Awareness is what allows anything to be noticed. Identity is the part that interferes—your human identity… Expression is what comes out of that: speech, action, reaction."
– Niko Kapoutsos [10:03]

• Niko also demystifies spirit communication: it comes through the same mechanism as all thoughts, images, or feelings—just less interference by identity.

Quote:

“It’s not a matter of spirit speaking to you or playing poker… it’s understanding the mechanism, where it’s coming from.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [13:21]

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3. Awareness, the Human Architecture, and Oneness

• (14:29) Niko details the architecture of incarnation, stating that "awareness is not inside the body; it’s what the body appears within.”
• We are always receiving; the “radio” is always on, but identity toggles the dial, deciding what we let through.
• Describes the layers from creator, perceiver, oversoul, higher self, to human self, and emphasizes connection and absence of true separation.

Quote:

"We're never separate... There is no ability to connect—because we're all essence."
– Niko Kapoutsos [20:39]

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4. Mediumship, the Auric Field, and the ‘Claire’s’

• (23:34) Alex asks about the filtering of messages (“I see a rose, what does it mean?”).
• Niko explains that authentic mediumship is about “just transmitting the information that comes through, without letting the identity interpret, filter, or make it personal.”
• The “Claire’s”—clairvoyance, clairaudience, etc.—are not exceptions, just different ‘feelers’ by which we interpret what arises in awareness.

Quote:

“The Claire's are more like feelers... It's just how we are interpreting what we're receiving. But again, we’re adding a layer that’s not part of the mechanism.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [25:40]

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5. Incarnation, Soul Contracts, and Parallel Realities

• (36:10) Discusses the illusion of pain and time; “pain is an illusion,” and the root of all pain is love.
• Everything is part of loosely-scripted contracts; every significant encounter is “an intentional and prearranged soul agreement.”
• Parallel realities: There are infinite versions of you; lessons learned here ripple out and are shared across many lifetimes and realities.

Quote:

“Isn’t my profound awakening helping somebody else of my essence in other times and realities? The more my arc was so drastic… it's rippling into all parallel realities.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [48:59]

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6. Identity, Ego, and the Path to Awakening

• (41:37) Alex and Niko discuss how as children we are ‘wide open’ and by programming and conditioning, the identity narrows that openness.
• Spiritual awakening is the process of “creaking open” that awareness again, returning to essence.

Quote:

“The more you remember your essence, it's not just a matter of remembering it... but acting as it. Love unconditionally. Offer the world whatever you're meant to offer the world unconditionally. Ask for nothing in return."
– Niko Kapoutsos [88:04]

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7. Dealing with Pain, Suffering, and Healing

• (89:16) Guidance for those enduring pain: Shift focus from the pain to the energy and light of essence; healing stems from raising your energetic frequency and releasing attachment to physical suffering.
• Meditation, silence, and not identifying solely with the body are crucial.

Quote:

“You are not the body. You’re the energetic force behind it... Stop focusing on the pain, start manifesting, bringing in your own light. It starts eventually dissolving.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [92:52]

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8. Addressing Fear and the “Macro Shift” (The Great Awakening)

• (62:40 & 68:53) On the so-called ‘Great Awakening’ and collective fear:
  • All collective/cosmic changes mirror the same process as individual awakening—expanded awareness, not doomsday.
  • “There’s nothing to fear… It’s already a process occurring. You’re living in it. Your essence is beautiful.”

Quote:

“Yes, it will be intergalactic communication 100%. Maybe five years, less… But it doesn’t change the present moment. It just takes away the fear.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [68:53]

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9. Authenticity, Following Your Essence, and Social Rejection

• (72:45) Both Alex and Niko reflect on personal loss of relationships due to following spiritual truth.
• Niko: “You know what? I'm not affected... If my parents don't speak to me anymore, how am I so certain it's not part of the soul agreement? Maybe that's intentional so they can go through their changes now in their later years.”

Quote:

“The silence is powerful. There’s a lot more behind it… we're not following the truth if appeasing the identity's interest.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [80:53]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mediumship Mechanics:
  “You're just a radio. Turn the knob and let the frequency come through.”
  – Niko Kapoutsos [23:54]

• On Trance & Flow State:
  “The difference isn’t the ability, it’s the level of interference… that’s the flow state.”
  – Niko Kapoutsos [32:00]

• On Awakening and Masters:
  “Those ascended masters… just weren’t tethered to the identity as strongly as humanity is today. So they were teachers, but so are we.”
  – Niko Kapoutsos [43:13]

• On Healing Pain:
  “Don’t let it pull you down. Notice if you’re hurting… you remain with it a long time, you sink. We all have the ability to elevate.”
  – Niko Kapoutsos [94:01]

• On Essence vs. Accomplishment:
  “If you fulfill your purpose as essence, truly fulfill your purpose, whatever that is, that outlives you.”
  – Niko Kapoutsos [85:59]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Niko’s Upbringing / Greek Orthodoxy: [03:54]–[07:00]
• Mediumship is Not a Rare Ability: [08:27]–[12:57]
• Awareness, Identity, Expression Mechanics: [10:03]–[15:19]
• Architecture of Incarnation and Oneness: [14:29]–[22:49]
• Interpreting Psychic Messages (The Claire's): [23:34]–[28:37]
• Soul Contracts & Parallel Realities: [36:10]–[54:38]
• Dealing with Pain & Advice for Sufferers: [89:16]–[94:01]
• Great Awakening & Collectively Navigating Fear: [62:40] / [68:53]
• Dealing with Social Rejection for Speaking Truth: [72:45]–[83:23]
• The Importance of Purpose and Essence: [85:51]–[89:16]

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Summary: Practical Takeaways

• Mediumship/intuition is not reserved for the few: It’s available to everyone; it’s simply less interference from the identity/ego.
• Fear and pain are illusions, rooted in identity: Suffering softens as we realign with higher awareness.
• Allow intuition and silence to guide you: Direct communication from your higher self—the “remembrance” of your purpose—comes in the quiet moments.
• All is interconnected: Your healing, awakening, and growth ripple out to parallel lives and the collective.
• Purpose is in authentic expression: Let go of the need for approval or instant gratification—what you do with your essence outlives you.

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Where to Find Niko Kapoutsos

Website: nikothemedium.com
Books, online academy, live courses, and more resources all available through his website.

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Closing Note

Both Alex and Niko encourage listeners to explore, question, and remember who they really are—beyond painful stories or limiting identities. The path to healing, transcending fear, and spiritual fulfillment is built on remembrance, authenticity, and finding purpose as essence, not ego.

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“Allow the remembrance to occur. That’s why you can’t remember if it’s noisy… Find half an hour every day and just sit in your silence… That’s how you remember.”
– Niko Kapoutsos [61:49]

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Transcript

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[Alex Ferrari]

Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden, lay consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists, and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here, we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level Soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, Explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next Level Soul tv. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or. Or any of the companies they represent. Now, let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome to the show Nico Caputos. How you doing, Nico?

[Nico Caputos]

Hey, Alex. Thanks for having me. I'm doing well. Thank you.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you so much. I noticed a slight accent from my old country, which is New York country. My old. The old. The old country, which is New York.

[Nico Caputos]

There you go.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, my old country, because I was a kid when I was there, but yeah. Listen, my friend, I'm so happy to have you on the show. I. You were brought to my attention, and when I went to see your work, I was very impressed with how you're doing what you're doing as a. As a psychic medium and helping people around the world. But you come at it from a very grounded perspective, which is what we do at Next Level Soul. And I think it's something that's so needed. But your story is pretty remarkable, too, because, you know, I'm assuming when you were five growing up in New York, you were like, you know what I want to be when I grow up. So.

[Nico Caputos]

And you.

[Alex Ferrari]

So before we jump into it, you were raised Greek Orthodox, right?

[Nico Caputos]

Right. This is taboo.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let me ask you. I. I've only. The only thing I know about Greek Orthodox, and I'll be frank. I. I've learned a lot about different versions of, you know, Christianity, and there's. I don't. I have to make the count. The list one day of how many different sects are there? Of. Of Jesus's teachings is pretty remarkable. But I don't know a tremendous amount about Greek Orthodox. All I know of it is from my big Fat Greek wedding. That's. That's. That's really not much more from that. So how does Greek Orthodox. Is it very much like other Orthodox, other Orthodox versions of Christianity? Like, what's the main difference of it?

[Nico Caputos]

It's the first religion. The first. In other words, the. The liturgies are, like, ancient.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay.

[Nico Caputos]

You know, the New Testament was written in Greek. So if it follows the tradition, the original concept of Orthodoxy, of. Of religion, of teachings. So it's very, very strict. And this. This. All this mediumship is taboo. It's devil worship.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, obviously. You know, Obviously. Oh, yeah, I say that.

[Nico Caputos]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, they're all the devil.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. My mom stopped speaking to me five years ago. She's like, no, no way. It's not gonna happen. So it's just their preference, and it's okay. I'm fine with it. It's not, that's not my journey. It's ironic how that's the selection of this life, to grow up in a Greek Orthodox church. And I used to question this when I was a kid and the priest thought that, you know, I needed, you know, intervention and I was nuts. But I just knew it. I just had the inner knowing and I resonated to it and I just knew that I wasn't part of the Greek religion. But I continued, you know, I just learned and I, I was always open minded and I just found my own lane and it's perfect.

[Alex Ferrari]

So when. So. And I'm just going to ask you a couple more history questions because I don't, I really am fascinated by it. If the Vatican, with like the Council of Nicaea and all of that created the Bible as we know it, it was written in, was it written in Italy or it was Greek? Greek was the very first Ancient Greek. Right. So even so when the Romans were writing. Translated, originally translated into. Was it translated into Greek or was it written in Greek originally?

[Nico Caputos]

It was written in Greek. It was originally written in Greek.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, so the original Bible.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, yeah. Catholicism became afterward. Orthodoxy was first. This is it. This is, this is the main thing. This is the core of it. And then from that everything branched out. Even that's why when they say Greek, Easter, Catholic Easter, it just goes by the calendar, the Julian calendars, we stayed traditionally with the old way, the old calendar. That's why you have Easter either a one week apart, four weeks apart on the same week. It all varies, it just changes. It's still the same concept, the same belief, but you know, it's all, it's all of control. You know that. Right. All these religious, that's all this is instill fear. You have to have a life. You have to, you know, be good. And this way you can ascend back to heaven. I mean, this is all Hollywood scripts. It's not actuality.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. And there's a lot of holes in that script, by the way. A lot of plot holes in that script.

[Nico Caputos]

Well, look at, look at it. And I'm not knocking people that are listening that are religious. You know, I was religious for a while. Yeah. The Bible was written so many years after and then if you think about it, hundreds. Yeah. And if you think about it, the actual Bible we read now is over a thousand years later rewritten.

[Alex Ferrari]

The King James.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. If. Exactly. If I, if I say something to you and you pass it on to 15 people, the 15th person will not have what I just told You. It'll be translated and altered as we go along so the same thing happens there. But again, it's easier to find that familiarity, the comfort of believing through fear, because that's what we're conditioned to do. You're taught this.

[Alex Ferrari]

We're not only taught this, but we also, on a. We have a negative bias built into our system for survival, and that fear aspect of it is another. It's just digs into that so beautifully. So it's a very easy way to control a large populace, is fee.

[Nico Caputos]

That's exactly right. Exactly right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So that's fascinating. All right, so now we've established where you've come from. So now the journey out from where you came from is going to be that much more. You see, I'm setting up the story. You see, I'm backstory. You see, I'm a storyteller, so I'm back. All right, so when did you first discover your abilities? When did you. I know. It was a. It was something with your cousin, if I'm not mistaken.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. First, let me correct you. It's not an ability. This is a misinterpretation that a lot of people believe, and that's why they view mediums as. As a rarity. It's not an ability. You know, like most people, I had experience I didn't fully understand at first. Okay. But what becomes. What became more interesting to me wasn't the experiences itself. It was the understanding how it was happening. Right. Because once you understand the mechanism, the experience becomes something that can be recognized and stabilized rather than something mysterious. So that's what kept occurring to me. I mean, when I was a child, I had a visitation, if you want to call it that, celestial beings. And my cousin passed away, and he was like. He was here again a year later. And so many different moments happened throughout 10, 15 years. And again, it wasn't even that because I wasn't afraid of it. I just. I was from New York. It was a different mindset. The family, friends, nobody. Every time I try to speak about it, I was the outcast. So I just kind of internally tried to question the mechanism. And that's what I found, and that's what I kept gravitating to.

[Alex Ferrari]

So. So when you started to. When these. For lack of a better word, I say abilities. But when this thing happened to you, when you're able to start seeing and speaking to the other side. Well, first of all, let's clarify. What kind of mediumship do you do? Do you see dead people? Do you hear them do you, do you, do you hang out, play poker with them? What is it?

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, what is what?

[Alex Ferrari]

Because it comes in different flavors.

[Nico Caputos]

Let's look at it, let's break it down. Okay? There are three different levels to how experience is organized. All right? You could look at it very simply as three parts. Awareness, identity and expression. Right? So awareness is what allows anything to be noticed. Identity is the part that interferes your human identity, right? It labels and it organizes what appears. Expression is what comes out of that speech, action, reaction. So right now, as we're speaking, something is already being experienced. Identity is organizing it, choosing words, making sense of it, and expression is what comes out as speech. So in everyday experience, identity is very active, right? You're checking, you're adjusting, you're trying to make sure things are correct. In trance, trance, mediumship, that activity reduces. So awareness is still present, but identity is no longer interfering in the same way, which allows expression to continue more freely. Right? What creates confusion is that we usually think identity is who we are. But identity is something that appears within awareness just like a thought appears, just like a feeling appears.

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[Nico Caputos]

So it's not the source, it's part of the organization. And once you start to see that clearly, what feels abstract becomes much more understandable. So it's not a matter of spirit speaking to you or playing poker with them. It's understanding the mechanism, it's understanding where it's coming from. All Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So if. If I'm. If I may try to break it down in languages that I understand, sir. Make it a little. Make it a little easier for me to understand. Okay. So basically what we're talking about is we're all. We're all down here in a movie or in a play, and we're playing a character that is our identity. Once we disconnect from, or at least loosen that identity up, it allows this information that is always flowing, but it's kind of like a radio signal that's always flowing, but then you're able to tune into it more because you've let. You've dropped. You've raised your frequency to a place where you can receive that information. Is that a fair assumption?

[Nico Caputos]

Or can you.

[Alex Ferrari]

Or tell me.

[Nico Caputos]

Okay, we're going right into the mechanics. I like that. We build up to it. You're like, boom, right at it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Let's do it, baby. Let's do it.

[Nico Caputos]

That's the New Yorker in you. You could take. You could. Nah, you're. You're still in the East Coast.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's right.

[Nico Caputos]

You could take the. The neighbor, the boy out of the neighborhood, but not the neighbor out of the boys. Now, it goes something like that.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely.

[Nico Caputos]

Okay. So it can be helpful to look at experience in terms of where things are happening. Okay. That's what I would call awareness. The human consciousness field and the Auric field. And after this, we're going to break down the architecture of incarnation so you understand that we're never separate from. Okay, so awareness is what allows everything to be noticed. It's not inside the body. It's what the body appears within. This is also a misunderstanding. People say awareness in my mind, in my chest and my back. That's incorrect. It's an incorrect assumption. Right. It's what the body appears within. Also within awareness. Let me ask you right now, did you create. Did you generate your thought or did it just appear?

[Alex Ferrari]

It generally appears.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly. Because that's also what appears within awareness. So does speech. Thought and speech are simultaneous. Okay. And we'll go over the mechanism in a minute. That's what appears within awareness. So the human consciousness field is where experience becomes structured. So things like perception, interpretation, sensation, all organized there. Right. And the Auric field is the interface just outside the body, where input is first received before it's translated into thought or language. Right. There are different ways something can appear, but they all appear through the same mechanism. Right. First you have imagination. This is where you generate it. You could change it. And it builds as you Think this ties into your identity. So even if you get that speech, if you get the words forming, if you understand what you're going to say, notice throughout your life how many times you've altered it. You paused. You didn't say what you wanted, what you were meant to say. You altered it based on the experience. Okay. Intuition is the same mechanism. It arrives complete, simple, no effort. It's like you just know this is. I know this is real. You can explain why. And then spirit. This also appears to the same exact mechanism. There's no other mechanism. They don't tap on your shoulder. It's the same mechanism. It appears as thought, sensation, speech, emotion, all of it. With spirit, though it often. It often begins very subtle. It may feel slightly unfamiliar, and it becomes clearer if you stay with it. That's what evidential mediumship is. It's not. The spirit is giving you dialogue. It's the same exact mechanism that you experience every day as a human. Trance is the same thing. Normal speaking. The trance speaking is identical. Same exact mechanism. It's just less interference. But here's what matters. They all appear the same way. The difference is not how they appear, it's what happens after they appear. And that's perception. That's what we think. Oh, it's different is we're detached and we're never detached. It's the perception of the identity.

[Alex Ferrari]

So the information is coming.

[Nico Caputos]

It's always coming.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's. Yeah. Our loved ones are always speaking to us, our angels or guides, whatever the other side is speaking to us at all times. It's about how we can tune ourselves to perceive that and then. Yeah, and then use the mechanics that we have been given this body to be able to relay that information out.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. But you see, even. Even with that, we're. We're still abiding to this concept of separation. We're not separate.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, no. Yeah.

[Nico Caputos]

So it's not. It's not that our loved ones have left in the. Connecting with us is still within the same architecture.

[Alex Ferrari]

I, I see. Which. It's kind of.

[Nico Caputos]

It's.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's kind of like radio signals are going around us at all times every day. They never stop. But the second you turn on the radio and turned on the dial, then you can actually receive them. But they're around us at all times.

[Nico Caputos]

You're always. You're always receiving. The identity is the one shutting off and on the radio.

[Alex Ferrari]

There we go. That's.

[Nico Caputos]

You're always receiving because you're always within the flow. Right. You look at incarnation as A structured way that consciousness expresses itself, right? So basically, it's simple. You have the source of awareness, the perspective that experiences the organizing intelligence behind multiple lives. And then the human experience itself. This is your architecture, right? Now, notice this. You're listening from one lens, just from the human incarnation, right? Let's go back before this even happens, okay? What I refer to as the creator is not a being, but the source of all awareness. Okay? From that, there's what I call the perceiver, which is the first individualized point of view. We are all the perceiver. That's all of our origin, okay? Not all perceivers incarnate. That's where you have angels and guides. They're still perceiver based within this field of. Of. Of. Of consciousness, but they don't incarnate the same field. You have consciousness, which is plants, animals, environment, planet, all of that same field. So we're all connected in this field, right? We want to experience incarnation. Our perceiver, okay, our perceiver decides. The perceiver is essentially the first point where awareness becomes perspective, right? Before that, there's no separation with the perceiver. There's now a way for experience to be known from somewhere. So you, instead of Alex, you the perceiver, Alex the perceiver.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's like my superhero name

[Nico Caputos]

decides, okay, we're gonna have an incarnation. And then the oversoul is created. The oversold is the level that holds the totality of experiences across lifetime, all lifetimes. The oversoul actually was touched by Ralph waldo Emerson in 1841 and coined it. Right? And notice, 1841, nobody speaks about the oversoul still, that goes back to the control we spoke about earlier, the fear. It's scary to speak about something that is going to rock the system, but it's true, okay? And then from the oversoul, the higher self is what organizes and stabilizes a specific incarnation that's created. Now, all of these are components of your own essence, right? And the human self is the localized expression where awareness is experienced through the body and mind. Now, as your identity is conditioned throughout your life, nobody focuses on the. On this architecture. They focus on the now, who I am. But if you notice little toddlers before their identity has been crafted, they are in awareness. They're very aware, they're alert. And we keep saying as adults, don't speak to the imaginary friend. You know, that's your imagination playing tricks on you. Notice that because again, we're pulled to the conditioning, but we forget the architecture. So when you remember the architecture and you remember your different components, there Is no separation. There is no loss. There is no ability to connect. Because we're all essence. We all come from the same exact architecture. We all have that frequency. We all have the same exact mechanism coming through awareness. Everything appears in awareness. Your thought, your speech, your sensation, your emotions, even your body's in awareness. Everything happens. It's what we do with it. Once we receive, we notice it, how we alter it. That's the misunderstanding. That's where everyone is lost and confused. That's where even mediums are given misinformation. I'm like, that's not even accurate. But that's how they're taught and that's what they believe because they not. They're not focusing on the architecture.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show. Because I've spoken to a few mediums in my day, so I bet you have a couple from my understanding, and this goes for psychics and mediums and even channelers for that. For that sake, is that the information comes in, but it comes in through our filter, our perception. And that they have to kind of like, they go, I see a rose. What is a rose? Is a rose mean anything to you? And that kind of thing is. It is from your understanding, is that kind of the way it is? Like this information comes in and you have to kind of interpret it in through your lens?

[Nico Caputos]

No, that's. That five dental mediums that you're referring to. This is where a lot of them remain inconsistent because they believe they have to translated. Okay, right. They're just the radio.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right? They're broadcasting it. So in other words, the road. So the information that the song, the rose song comes in, it's already there.

[Nico Caputos]

Let it come in. Give it the way it is. Why do they have to interpret it doesn't have to make sense to them.

[Alex Ferrari]

Remember, this is.

[Nico Caputos]

This is a. This is the connection between that spirit connector, the loved one and the sitter, the person that's still alive. That's their connection. I don't know the sitter and I don't know the spirit connected. So why am I trying to make it mine? I don't have to understand it, but that's the control of the identity. I feel safer when I understand it. So they misinterpret it. Okay, you're just a radio. You just turn the knob on and let the frequency come through. You just receive whatever you receive and give it understanding that within this field. And we. We'll speak about, as we said, the Auric Field, the consciousness field and awareness. So that spirit connector is touching into the Auric field, Their essence, their energy, touching into the Auric field. That expression that's coming through may be a visual or a word or a sentence, whatever, anything, a smell. It's coming from the Auric field, is merging into the human consciousness field. It is appearing in awareness. The human is noticing it in awareness with the same exact mechanism. Offer it the same way you're receiving it. Don't alter it, don't make it yours. Don't ask for clarity or affirmation, Just give it. I'm receiving a song of a rose. I see the rose, I feel the thorns. Something about pain, whatever, just bring it in.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let me stop you there for a second, Nico. So, and then this gets into the Claire's, the. The multiple Claire's that you have. Clairvoyance, Claire, audience, all that kind of stuff. So there is smell, there's actual visuals that you actually see, you know, someone there talking to you, or they never talk, from my understanding. But that you could see things and see beings or spirits or things like that. Is that. Is that within the realm of what you're trying to explain as.

[Nico Caputos]

Now notice again, the perception is that that's pulling the identity, is pulling it back to me. It's my ability through my Claire's. I've worked on my clairvoyance or my clairvoyance. This is me. Notice how a lot of the teaching is back, pointed, directed back to me, right? The Claire's are more like feelers, right? We have our senses. It does it. That doesn't mean that's where it begins. It's just how we. It's how we are interpreting what we're receiving. But again, again, we're add layer that's not part of the mechanism. And that's what makes it difficult because we're adding a layer based on the identity's control. It has to be part of me. It's not part of you. The same way the thought is not part of you.

[Alex Ferrari]

I think we're both saying the same thing, but we're. We're just saying it differently. I don't disagree with what you're saying, but like when. But like if I see a dead person, you know, my Uncle Bob. Uncle Bob's very famous on the show. Uncle Bob shows up, right? And I see Uncle Bob in the corner and Uncle Bob's holding a hatchet. And then I'm doing a reading for someone and I'm like, I see this guy and I described the person, what he's dressed like. And they go, oh, that's my Uncle Bob. And I go, okay, great. He's holding a hatchet. He goes, oh, he used to cut sugar cane back in Cuba, back in the day. And that's what he's trying to say. So that's just another way of me tuning, not tuning in, but another way for that to come through. It's just another ability. It's another sense to do it. Because some people see, some people hear, some people smell, some people taste, some people feel all. So it's all dependent. But it's like you said, they're feelers, but it's just depending on the person, on what they are more inclined to. Am I. Is that correct?

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. This is where the Claire's come in handy because it's also understanding that that spirit connector is not coming forth with memory the way the sitter has the memory. There is no memory, there's no body, there is no frontal lobe to hold memory. Sure, it's energy. It's not happening. But what is happening is when I leave this world, okay, the human consciousness field retreats, goes back, Right. The auric field remains. Right. So my auric field, my outer layer, remains in this reality. How? What I'm connecting with, the spirit connector is that the projection of that spirit, that. That spirit connector is coming through the same Auric Fielder left behind in the Auric field is residue of personality, of emotion, of whatever. Whatever came through. They're tapping into the subconscious resource of the sitter. So Uncle Bob is in the sitter's memory. It's not coming in as Uncle Bob. So we're tapping into both. Because our. All of our consciousness fields are overlapping,

[Alex Ferrari]

all of us, because we've all kind of agreed to it. At this point in the room, everything,

[Nico Caputos]

even, even right now, even this, right now, you and I are not communicating. It's not human to human is essence to essence through the human form. So even this, right now, is a contractual agreement. Our essence is made prior to the incarnation. It just happened to be on this day. There's nothing is random. There's no accidents. Everything is aligned. Notice how we need to do. Right, exactly. It's an alignment, right? This is meant to happen. What the future holds is also part of the. Of the alignment of the. Of the contract of the agreement. When. Even when the city comes to an evidential medium, it's the same thing. It wasn't ran. They didn't just find them. It was meant to happen. Everything is meant to happen. Everything Is a contractual agreement, essence to essence, everything. If not, you would have met 50 more times the people you've met already throughout your life. But it's still limited. You see, people they met from. From childhood are no longer in your life. Some of them are still present. Everything is intentional. Notice the number of the population of the world and the tiny fraction that you've come across in this existence. Because that tiny fraction is all contractual obligations, covenants, soul contracts, whatever you want to call them. Everything and all the human consciousness fields are overlapping. That's why you can send somebody miles away and they text you. I was just thinking about you. Yeah, because that's what it is. So it's not an ability, it's not a phenomenon. It's understanding what's behind it by not trying to view it only through the lens of your human identity, which has control. And these needs a center to be me, kind of bypassing that and trying to see it through the lens of your higher self. Understanding the interconnectedness is.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nico, this is all beautiful. I absolutely love it. I love the way you're articulating this, these ideas, because it's not. It's just a slightly different perspective or reorganization of the ideas of it. And it's a clarification. It's a clarification of what this is. Again. Again. I've spoken to so many psychic mediums. I know many of them are dear friends of Min who are psychic mediums. And I've asked these questions a hundred times, but this is the first time that I've really gotten this kind of really mechanical.

[Nico Caputos]

That's what it's about.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, the, the, the. The science, if you will, if you want to use the science of it, the science behind it is interesting.

[Nico Caputos]

And this isn't something that you're learning in school. Not yet. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

I don't know of our lifetime. But yeah, maybe.

[Nico Caputos]

No, it's starting right now. I'm speaking about it. I'm sure there's others around the world that are saying the same thing. This is a. This is a remembrance. This is when. Look at trance. Right. Trance is usually described as something unusual or separate from everyday experience. Right. You've had trance mediums. But what's more useful is to look at what's actually happened. When people say, oh, can everybody do trans? A hundred percent they can.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely.

[Nico Caputos]

Because the same process we're using right now to speak and think is the same process involved in trance.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Nico Caputos]

The difference isn't the ability, it's the level of interference in every.

[Alex Ferrari]

The what that you're creating yourself, the interference that you're creating.

[Nico Caputos]

The idea, the identity. Exactly right. In everyday experience, identity is constantly monitoring and adjusting what's happening. In trance, that interference reduces, so expression continues without being interrupted.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is that the flow?

[Nico Caputos]

That's exactly the flow.

[Alex Ferrari]

The flow state. The flow state that athletes get into or artists get into.

[Nico Caputos]

They don't interfere and expression continues without being interrupted. That's the flow state. That's trance. That's what you do throughout your day. You're driving home on a familiar road. You get home, you've got, you even drove there. You daydream, you lost time. All of that is your interference reduces.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Nico Caputos]

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[Nico Caputos]

So trance is happening 247 just as your thoughts and speech appear 24 7, all through the same mechanism. That's why when people, you know, think of separation, oh, I have to die to go back to heaven. I'm a ghost. And Patrick Swayze's body comes out of as a silhouette. All that's all misinterpretation. That's not. That's not real at all. None of it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right? I got you. I got you. So then of course, there's no hell,

[Nico Caputos]

no, of course not. And when people say, are there any negative entities that just pop in and take over your body? Of course not. We are the expression. Back to the architecture. In that infinite field of consciousness where all of us are the origin, the perceivers. Right? That's pure unconditional love. Right? Why did my perceiver, my version, my essence of the perceiver wish to incarnate when people say, oh, I can't stand this life and there's too much pain. The root of all pain is love. You can't have pain without understanding love. Somebody hurts you, you love them first. That's why they hurt you. So that's the lesson. Your essence is learning love in multiple degrees by an incarnation.

[Alex Ferrari]

And they can't learn it any other way other than.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly. Because there's no pain. Pain is an illusion. There's no time. Time is an illusion. Right. You were saying something before, and I was going to say about parallel realities. That's why time is great, because it's. It's a. An illusionary concept. But it's. It's vital for you to stay online with the trajectory. But there's multiple versions going on that you're even unfamiliar with.

[Alex Ferrari]

So there's other versions. There's other versions of this conversation happening right now.

[Nico Caputos]

100%. 100%.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now we're going to make our audience's head explode because we're just focusing on. We're just focusing on one life, but.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

As you mentioned, there are many lives.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

To my under and to my understanding, there's no past life because there's no time. There's no future life because there's no time.

[Nico Caputos]

That's exactly right.

[Alex Ferrari]

All the lives are happening at the same time. So right now, you and me are both in Egypt, ancient Egypt, Atlantis, Rome, Greece, you know, all at the same time. Those incarnations are happening at the same Time. And that really makes your head hurt.

[Nico Caputos]

The human. The identity is mine. Yes, but not your essence, because you feel it. It's not only that, it's also our relationship. Right? Right. Today we're strangers, we just met.

[Alex Ferrari]

But the.

[Nico Caputos]

Off the bat, I could feel a resonance to you. Why?

[Alex Ferrari]

When I. That's the thing. And that's when. When I choose guests for the show. It's very. And people always ask, how do you choose guests for your show? How do you. Is it based on numbers? Is it based on subscribers? I'm like, like, no. I just. I have to look at him. And anytime my wife says, what would you think of this person? I go, I need to see them. Put them up on a video. And as soon as I see them, it's about five to ten seconds, and I'll go, yes or no? Yeah, it's that. It's that simple. So when I saw you, I was like, oh, Nico, where have you been? Come on.

[Nico Caputos]

Because I just.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because I just felt it. It was something that was. It's very instinctual, very gut based.

[Nico Caputos]

What is gut?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, God. Is intuition.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly. Intuition. Right. But we don't recognize with intuition. And this is. This is probably the most profound remembrance I've gone through. We each have a higher self. This is also your essence, another component of it which governs every single incarnation. It doesn't speak to you, it doesn't text, it doesn't call you. It directly communicates through intuition. We have, throughout your life, we have dismissed intuition so many times that after we did something, decision maker, I should have done my gut intuition. That's. That's direct guidance from the.

[Alex Ferrari]

From the higher self and direct interference by ourselves.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly, exactly. But even that's intentional. Even that's intentional. It's like the higher self is gonna bring the intuition and know the identity is gonna react a certain way. Because that's a lesson in there somewhere. Okay? The same exact way the higher self is able to send in information through intuition. It's also able to. And that's where the oversold comes in. It's also able to connect through conscious overlapping, you and the other parallel realities. So even though we're here now, we don't know what the other parallel realities are. We might be brothers, we might be siblings, I mean parents, we might. Anything. Friends, enemies, you even know. So. But that false consciousness overlap is what happens, right? How about. How many times have you woke up in the morning and you just irritated for no reason? No reason you're irritated. And then I have two.

[Alex Ferrari]

I Have children, sir.

[Nico Caputos]

So, yeah, okay. Well, if it doesn't take to the kids, if every. If everything was going great, everybody's happy, but you wake up and you're irritated, and it lasts for about an hour or two, then it's gone.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Nico Caputos]

What is that? What is that? That is what's happening in the architecture. Another parallel version of you is holding on to too much and can't handle. It's going to bust. So the higher self takes some of that irritation, places it on you for an hour, parks it there for an hour or two, because you could handle it that moment to give your other parallel version time to smooth it out, and it puts it right back where it belongs. This happens all the time and we don't recognize it.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, of course not. Of course.

[Nico Caputos]

Because you're looking at it through a singular lens. This singular lens right here.

[Alex Ferrari]

So generally speaking, as we walk through life, we. We come in wide open, and as babies, we're wide open. And, you know, I have children, so I know they were beautifully wide open. But as those first seven years, as they say that wideness starts to narrow, to narrow, to narrow, which we're building this quote, unquote, identity that's exactly right. Of this person. So the religion, where we live, our morals, our ethics, all of these things, you know, and all the programming of money's hard to get, or money's easy to get, you know, that kind of stuff. All that stuff. And then most. A lot of people stay in that. That lane but for the. But for our handful, which is now growing more and more on a daily basis. And we'll talk about that in a minute.

[Nico Caputos]

It.

[Alex Ferrari]

We start asking questions again. You. You ask questions about your religion? I ask questions about. I was raised Roman Catholic. I ask questions about my religion. And I was Just start. And then the awareness starts to creak open a little bit, creek open a little bit. Then you get a book that just blows your mind wide open. Then you watch a podcast that, like this one, which I promise you is going to blow someone's head in a beautiful, beautiful way, and it's going to start opening, opening more. And we. Until we can get back to this. This beautiful awareness of, like, oh, the truth, which is where the masters get to eventually, where. Where Christ and Buddha and Yogananda and many of the walking masters and avatars that walked found, quote, unquote, enlightenment because they were able to open up and go, oh, I see what's going on here.

[Nico Caputos]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Is that right?

[Nico Caputos]

Aren't we all? Okay, how are you so certain that in 50 years from now, the more you expand into your awareness, into the remembrance, into the architecture, into the purpose, into parallel reality, into all that. How are you so certain in 50 years you won't be considered a Master? What is a Master? We turn around. I mean, again, I'm not dismissing Jesus, but I've even had Jesus come through me in trance half a dozen times. It's amazing. It's an amazing, energetic experience. And I honor Jesus because. Why? These Ascended Masters, they just didn't. They weren't tethered to the identity as strongly as humanity is today. So they wore the teachers. They will plant the seeds of your saying, but so are we.

[Alex Ferrari]

We are all capable of it. Jesus said it. We're all capable of what I could do, you could do, and more.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, it's. It's. It's absolutely true.

[Nico Caputos]

You're doing it now. You're planting the seeds by offering this podcast, by allowing your. Your. Your awareness to shift to remembers, by bringing up people that are speaking their truth. You know, I was a contractor in New York. This was not at all in my lane of my projection at all. You know, in trance, I'm receiving information. You need to write these books. It was one. Now it's. It's going to be a series of 10 books altogether by the time I'm dead, which is explaining consciousness from the inside out. You know, courses, creating an online academy. This was not at all what I wanted to do at all. I left a successful career as a contractor to move to Greek island, starting from scratch, living month to month. And you know what? I'm so happy because I'm remembering my essence and I'm not allowing my identity to hold me in such control. And that's what it is. It's not about your success and what you perceive. You know, the most. Toys, wins. It's about. Did. Did you fulfill the purpose of your essence? Are you remembering? Are you speaking your truth? Especially when all of those that you love are against you, and it's easier to shut your mouth than to speak your truth, but you're unaware if you speak your truth. Are you planting the seeds as a part of the covenant, part of the contract? You're unaware.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson]

One thing about the locker room, it's a mix of everything. Different races, religions, backgrounds, opinions, all of it. And yeah, you argue, you joke around, you disagree constantly, but when it actually matters, you've got each other's backs. No question. That's just being a good teammate. And honestly, that shouldn't stop when the game ends. But right now, hate is rising across communities in different ways, and Jewish communities are getting hit hard by it. And hate doesn't stay in one place, it spreads. So this isn't about agreeing on everything, it's just about showing up for people. The blue square is a simple way to do that. Just saying, yeah, I'm not cool with hate. Go to bluesquarealliance.org grab one, share it. It's not complicated. Just be the kind of teammate you'd want in your corner.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. So when, when you finally decide to, to come out and do this professionally, publicly and your parent, basically your family disowned you, essentially?

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, they don't speak to me. Friends. None of them forgot about me. My one sister does and she tries to understand, but she can't. But she just doesn't bother with it. You know, she bought my first never read it. She got like page 20 goes, I don't, I can't do this. I don't get it it. But she's very much into the orthodox religion. You know, I thanked her for buying it, you know, but again, it's not about that.

[Alex Ferrari]

So my, so my question to you then is why did, why did you choose to come in through that, that portal, that family that ins those institutions? Because you could have been born into some, you know, some hippies In a commune somewhere in Northern California. And this would have been a lot easier. Okay, let's sustain this reality. Come on. We're asking too much of the audience. You're like, well, what about apparel?

[Nico Caputos]

Okay, listen,

[Alex Ferrari]

you're asking me to run. You're asking me to run a marathon. I haven't even got off the couch yet. Let's. Let's stay. Let's stay on this. This reality. But in this. This reality, the question is, why did you choose to come through it? There's a lesson in this.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. So why do you think you chose to come in through? Because I. A lot of times I asked myself when I was growing up, when. Because I wanted to be a filmmaker, and I eventually became one. But it was so hard to struggle because I was basically in Florida the entire time. Not the Mecca of Hollywood at the time I was growing up. And I'm like, man, it would have been so much easier, man, if I would have lived in Los Angeles and I would have done this and I would have done that.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

God, it would have been so much easier. My career would have taken off much faster because I would have had more access, more. All of this kind of stuff. And I always wondered, why did I come in through a Cuban family in South Florida, raised in New York, then come back to Florida? Like it just on paper. It's insane.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, I know. I know what you mean. My understanding is that the beginning part of the journey is again, architectured, is set in stone. It's already created for the ending to occur. So the remembrance has become more profound because of where it started, of course. Okay. Not only that, it's also a ripple effect across consciousness, across my parallel lives. So the more my art was so drastic, and trust me, I felt this for years. I'm very sensitive to energy, the spirit presence. For years, I tried to have one that as a kid. I shelved it for 10, 15 years because, again, I was afraid to walk away from the familiarity of that life. I knew there'd be repercussions. I knew people would turn on me. And it's difficult to perceive your loved ones turning on you, so you kind of stay with it just so that doesn't happen. But after a while, it was coming 100%. It was obvious, you know, But. But you just. My insides were tearing up inside. I had to follow my. My myself right now. I'm sorry. Cut you off. Because the remembrance is so profound, isn't it safe to assume that it's rippling into all parallel realities? That are occurring right now in my essence and other times and dimensions and realities. So isn't my profound awakening helping somebody else of my. Oh, absolutely. That's why. That's why the beginning part is so abstract and different than the ending, because it's meant to be that way in order for other parallel realities to get a hit. Other parallel realities, they might be in the hippie. In the hippie family, and it's fine with them. Other could be the extreme opposite.

[Alex Ferrari]

It.

[Nico Caputos]

We don't know all of the lessons and all of the lives. We're not meant to. We're meant to just figure out this

[Alex Ferrari]

one in this life. So. And I have to ask you this again. Sorry, guys. We're going to go into the Matrix here a little. Little deep into the. Into the weeds here, but into the weeds. Into the weeds a bit here. So everyone we. We're going into the weeds. Everyone strapped in. Because I'm gonna.

[Nico Caputos]

I'm gonna.

[Alex Ferrari]

This is gonna be hard, so prepare yourselves. All right, so if we're living in this life and then there's parallel realities to this life, from my understanding, there's endless parallel realities of this life, of this. Of. Of Nico.

[Nico Caputos]

Of Nico.

[Alex Ferrari]

This personality, this identity, but multiple versions of it, obviously. Different versions of it. Because if you were raised in a hippie commune, you're not going to be this guy. You have a different perspective. But this. This character. Let's say the Nico character and the Alex character. Okay. Okay, now, so there's parallel realities of happening, of this now. You and I are both in Atlantis right now.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

In another. In another lifetime. And in that lifetime, we have infinite realities as well. So right, this. So this. Okay. And then we. We have thousands, if not millions of lives of individual characters. We'll call them characters for.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, hold on.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, Just to hold on to something.

[Nico Caputos]

You might be an Indian woman in India right now, Alex here.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely. In different time periods throughout human history.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, so all of that is happening. Right. So history. Exactly. Throughout.

[Nico Caputos]

I said.

[Alex Ferrari]

Did you say. I said human history.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes. All right, I understand.

[Alex Ferrari]

Not spirit history. Human history.

[Nico Caputos]

Even the history is an illusion. Right, Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, the whole damn thing's an illusion. We're leaving the Matrix, for God's sakes, Nico. So let's just start from there. Now we're. Now, I'm trying to. I'm trying to work with you in this reality on these set of rules, Nico.

[Nico Caputos]

Okay, gotcha.

[Alex Ferrari]

Bear with me.

[Nico Caputos]

2026. Got it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, exactly.

[Nico Caputos]

Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

All of these. So all of these lives are happening and all these parallel lives are happening at the same time. So the lessons that we learn through Nico and Alex in this lifetime, we'll just. Let's get back to this lifetime. Right, right. And all the parallel versions of that. We're learning multiple lessons in all of these other parallel lives. So the hippie Nico, who was raised in a commune in Northern California in the same time period as we live in now, has learned so many different lessons and has dealt with so many different obstacles in his life than you have. And then there's been other ones that have been super like. So basically for you, you have obviously had to deal with. With issues with your family and rejection from your family. But he didn't have to deal with that. But he might have had to deal with other things that you don't have to deal with in this life.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Vice versa. So this life is really. It's big bang for your buck, if you will, with all these parallel realities that you're getting all of these lessons. Infinite amount of lessons through this avatar, through this character.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is. So does that all make sense?

[Nico Caputos]

100%. And I'm going to just add one thing. Even that hippie who doesn't experience the same issues I do is still learning from what I experienced. As I said. Yes. And that's intuition. That's that.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, so. So is that what they talk about when they talk about quantum jumping? If you heard the term quantum jumping, where you like, hey, I just like to go talk to the Nico. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go talk to the Alex that was super, super rich or super whatever. And I'm going to learn lessons on how to be wealthy or I'm going to learn how to play the guitar. Because in another lifetime, Alex is a master guitar player.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

By the way, I have an absolute. I don't. It's like a weird thing with acoustic guitar. I love like flamenco guitar specifically. But I can't. But I can't. But I can't play. And I've tried and it's just not. I mean, I'm sure if I really sat down and tried, I could do something. But it's something that connects with me. So I have to believe then if we're all that there's another version of me, a flamenco guitar player. Master flamenco guitar player. And that's why I'm like, I love that there's echoes.

[Nico Caputos]

You're also connecting cross conscious overlap to the emotion of the love for that. That's why you feel the desire for it. I love the sax, I don't bother picking it up. I could feel the love of playing it. I've seen myself playing it. Right. What people don't understand about trance, and again, why it always happened and it's not a rare phenomenon, is that when I am in my trance, in these trance transmissions that are happening, I'm not here, I'm not present on my body or the words coming out of my mouth, nor is they taking over my body. Just so your listeners understand there's no possession going on. It's the same exact mechanism that's happening. Right, but you see, to understand that, first let me just back up. Our essence, our spirit is not in the body as we're taught to believe. It's impossible. Right? I wrote about that in my books. It'd be like the junkyard, the compressor just crushing the car. It's too powerful, it would crush the body. So your essence is not in the body, but it utilizes the breath as the interface to blend with the energy of the body. The body has its own energy, right? And that interface of the breath is exactly how trance happens.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show.

[Nico Caputos]

It's the collaboration. Your essence and the spirit, essence combined coming through the same interface of the breath. The breath is what allows us to speak. That's how trans speaking happens. So while this is all happening and I'm aware of the, the mechanism, I don't have to be present. So my mind is not here. I don't care about the words or who's watching me. That's where you're crossing into overlap consciousnesses. I could see a scene playing out where I'm playing the sax and I know it's me. When they say, Claire, cognizance that in the knowing that I just know this is happening, that's also intuition. That's cross conscious. That's where you, you could kind of glimpse other realities that are going on. But you don't stay in the moment because it's not relevant to your life right now. It's the understanding that it is happening and that's all you need to know. So there is no right choice or wrong choice. Well, you decide I made a mistake here. That's, that's just the identity throwing in as control to make you feel bad. Your decision making split your trajectory. And that other parallel version of you is living the other decision you didn't make. And that's how that trajectory is happening. So everything's intentional because that's how you grow. If your essence is so powerful and intelligent and in this beautiful field of consciousness, why would it rely on one life when it can. Oh, create many?

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, that's the thing. I always. I always. In my Catholic days, I always wondered. I'm like, well, wait a minute. You mean to tell me when I heard. When I first discovered reincarnation, the idea of it, the concept of it, I'm like, that makes sense to me. Like, that absolutely makes 110 sense to me because you mean to tell me that the only time I'm gonna be to experience this. This. This reality is through this body, through these parents, this country, through this. That's it. And I. And then you meet to tell me that the per. The. The. The kid or the baby who's born and dies instantly or. Or has a very bad disease and. And dies a year later, and it's just a year of just tormented horror for. And pain for this child. That's it. That's. That was. This. That was just luck of the draw. I'm like, that doesn't. I'm like, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense as a God. Like, I'm like, dude, seriously, like, is that. Is that what this is about?

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, that didn't make any sense to me. So. As I've tried to, you know, we're all trying to figure this out. This is an insane game that we're in. It's an insane. I mean, it's insane. It's insane. We're thrown in here. We're trying to figure it out. We meet these strangers who apparently are our parents. We figure this out. They start teaching us some. They. Sometimes. Some of them do the best they can, some of them do the worst they can. It all depends. So we're all just trying to figure out why we're here, what this is, and what we're supposed to be doing here. Yeah, in many ways, I think that's. And I think that's the scope of all of it. And we all find a story that we grab onto, the story of every aspect of our existence. The story of how we look, the story of how we are supposed to work. The story about money, the story about love, the story about relationships, a story about the country you live in, and all the. In the religion. All of it is just. You're just grabbing on to stuff so you can just figure, hold on tight for this ride is that like. You're. Like. You're lost in the sea and you see some dinghies and you grab on to them and hold on tight. Now, some of them. Some people get so afraid that they don't let go. Kind of like people who are stuck in a certain kind of religion that they just are not open to any other ideas or they're just so. Just so stuck that they can't even accept somebody else's experience. And that's where wars start.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, wait, my God. My God is better than your God. Because that's the story I've told myself. And you're. You can't be good. And that's the other thing I never understood. I'm sorry. I'm venting now, Nico.

[Nico Caputos]

You know, it's funny because it's. You're right. We are on a journey of trying to figure out purpose, essence. But notice, though, we're trying to figure it out through the same condition. Mind of the identity, right? That's limitation. Right? That's interference. We have remembrance built into us because we're still that essence. We still have the components of the architecture when we don't seek, when we're not trying to figure it out. Utilizing the conditioned mind, trusting the intuition, clarity returns. That's remembrance. The question is, the question is not will it happen? It's can you trust it? Because it's not being generated by the conditioned mind. And that's where people get stuck, because they don't trust it, and they resume the identity and they stay lost and they stay confused, and they continue to question that. They are debating what you said about who's better God. That happened when I was 10 years old, by the way, that my Jewish neighbor said, there's only one God.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is.

[Nico Caputos]

I'm like, what blew my mind? That's what I'm saying. It's about, don't try to figure it out because you already have the answers. Allow the remembrance to occur. That's why you can't remember if it's noisy, if the kids are acting up. Nico, the dog is barking, the wife is calling you. You can't. You too. You're too caught up in the human identity. You can't connect. That's why it's vital. Find half an hour every day and just sit in your silence. Don't even bother to project anything. Don't set an attention. Sit in your silence and listen to the intuition. That's what the remembrance is. Beautifully being provided in clarity. That's how you remember. That's exactly how I got all of this. Everything came like this. And there's more to come.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, and so let's let's, let's. We've been talking about the micro a lot here. We talk, let's get into the macro a bit more into, okay, all of us together. So, so as a, a psychic medium, you obviously, you get messages all the time. Do you ever get messages about what is happening to all of us right now? Because there is a lot of fear out there about what's happening. This. They, you know, anyone who's listening to the show has heard me say, and I'm not the first to say it, the great awakening that we are all shifting in human consciousness even in our lifetime. How much our, how much consciousness is shift, that this conversation is even happening, happening is a miracle, you know, from where we get, from where we came from, right? You know, so it's, it's been shifting and in this conversation, 100 years ago, maybe 150 years ago, we're burned at the stake, you know, kind of thing, you know, where now it's becoming a lot more mainstream. So there's obviously a shift in understanding and awareness and consciousness for humanity as a whole. What have you. Is, has anything come through about where we are right now and where we're going in the, say, the next five or ten years?

[Nico Caputos]

Okay, let's, let's, let's bring it down first. But people often talk about the macro as something distant or abstract, right? But what's more, more useful is to recognize that the same structure that operates at a larger level is already present in this moment. Okay? So something, right now, something's being perceived, all right? There's awareness, there's organization of that experience, of this expression, right? The same structure doesn't change at a larger scale. Only the complexity of what's being organized changes. So with that said, me, Nico, the identity is not, not perceiving anything distant or different is the understanding that everything is already occurring and being played out.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, with that said, so then you know where the script is going because it's going to play out. Okay, so can you tell us. So for the people who are afraid, can you, can you let a brother know what the lottery ticket numbers are? No, I'm just, that's what I'm trying,

[Nico Caputos]

I'm trying to soften it for those who are afraid first, then I'm going to blow it up. Okay? When people talk about the macro, whether they call it the universe conscious or something else, they're often referring to a larger version of the same process. Not something separate, just something less localized. So this is what people are not understanding. They're not remembering this, and they're viewing it as something devastating to come or a big change. But it's not. It's the same exact process. Okay? So we have to trust the process, trust what's already occurring and not fear outcomes. The fear is based on the identity. You see, that's why we ask these questions. Out of fear, am I safe? Will I be safe? What's going to happen? But first, understand it's already a process that's occurring. You're living in it. You're part of it. Your essence is beautiful. Okay? Through trans, my guys have already spoken about this, books have been written or guided to be written about this. There will be changes. It is a. A global awareness, expansion of humanity, consciousness. Absolutely. It always comes back to the same. Find it in yourself first. That's your anchor. Recognize the consciousness. Everything we spoke about today. Recognize you're more than just the identity that loosens the fear. When people fear, all that is is the identity's control disguised as fear. There is no fear. There's nothing to fear because everything we said is intentional in this lifetime.

[Alex Ferrari]

So we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Nico Caputos]

Yes, it will be intergalactic communication 100%. Maybe five years. Less than five years. 100%. I wrote about that in the third book. How do I know that so well, because as we said before, where cross consciousness overlap, for a couple of years, an intergalactic version of me has been reaching me through the trans states, dream states, the intuitive states. Right. At first I thought it was to just write a book about it, which I did. It was more about understanding. Wait, there's more, there's more behind this. What's to come in the future. All this is going to come. It doesn't change the present moment. It just takes away the fear. Okay, Right. So it feels like a larger or macro experience and scares people is really just a shift in how much of that structure is accessible. So there's nothing to fear. Allow yourself to access it. It's already there for a reason. Now some people hearing this, it's going to go right over their head. What the hell is he talking about? But if you just listen and trust your gut feeling, your inner knowing, don't be afraid. Because fear is the identity. Just trust your essence. You already know what's in the comfort. Everybody already knows what's going to unfold because you're part of it, or else you wouldn't be in this incarnation, on this particular lifetime asking this exact question. Did I answer softly?

[Alex Ferrari]

That was a soft answer. That was a soft answer. So the way you answered it is how to basically relieve the fear.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Fantastic. So with that said, what are the lottery ticket numbers for?

[Nico Caputos]

Man, if I. If I knew.

[Alex Ferrari]

But that's not. But that's another life. That's a parallel lifetime that we're millionaires, you know, that's not this lifetime exactly.

[Nico Caputos]

But how come we can't experience that? Can't we share the body?

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, it's fun, it's funny. I saw, I saw like an Instagram post or something and it was, it was a voice with, with some guys like, you know, I appreciate that God is in the universe. And my guides have really been challenging me with a lot of different things in my life. But you know what would be really great experience, you know, just to be rich. I'd like to be as wealthy as humanly possible and deal with that. You know, like, I just would like to do that in this life. And that's. I thought it was funny the way they were saying it because a lot of people don't understand that, that, you know, money, when it's all cracked up to be famous, not what it's all cracked up to be. And there's examples of all of that throughout the piece. So, yeah, you know, it just, it just, it just magnifies who you are.

[Nico Caputos]

That was a very.

[Alex Ferrari]

Both those things.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly. That was a very big part of my conditioning of my identity. My father would always instill that, you know, it's about money, it's about success and this and that. I used to work 16 hour days. I was a successful contractor and I had money. I had the largest house on the block. I had my, my toy sports car. We went on three vacations a year. But again, it was what I was projecting as purpose of a life. And through all of that, something was missing inside. I never had my true happiness. See, now I have my true happiness and none of that is around. But that's how you understand where the identity is pulling to, which creates an illusion and you follow it. We're all like sheep. We're following what the identity is pulling us to condition what we believe, what we were taught. And it's not about that. It's about really looking at what's under the surface. And that's where you find your essence. And that's profound.

[Alex Ferrari]

So it is very profound. I want to, I want to tackle something that I feel that is, is kind of like an elephant in the room that a lot of people don't talk about with, with the experiences of both you and I. We both had similar. Yours more extreme than mine because I didn't come out like a weirdo psychic medium, but I, but I came out like a weirdo who speaks to psychic mediums. So. So we're a little bit different, but same ballpark. When I started this show, I lost a lot of friends, family. No, no, no family for me. My family, we're all kind of, they're all kind of woo woo because we're Cuban and, and Latin American and that's kind of in our Culture, the psychics, the mediums, the, the Santeria, all that kind of stuff that we were raised with. So it's not as much much. But I did lose friends after this because they just couldn't understand it. They couldn't grasp why I was doing this. What this is all was. You obviously had a more extreme version of that. The reason I want to bring this up is a lot of people who, who portray themselves in the, in the world as Christian, as Catholics, as following Christ, are the least Christ, like, people I've ever met in my entire life.

[Nico Caputos]

A hundred percent.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, it, it just drives me absolutely bet when anyone, when I see them like, you know, thumping the Bible and I'm like, but that's. Well, first of all, Jesus never wrote a Bible, so there's that. I'm throwing that out there, just saying he never wrote anything down. But that's another conversation for another day. But, but they don't act. They don't, they don't walk the walk that they're talking.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's so frustrating to me. So, so, and please forgive me, and I don't mean to kind of overstep, but your family is so into the Orthodox Greek, you know, religion. And I'm assuming the Orthodox Greek religion has something to do with Christ. I'm assuming.

[Nico Caputos]

Right, of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right. No, no, I have to. I'm just clarifying.

[Nico Caputos]

It's all about Christ.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right. So Christ would have never rejected you for doing this. If anything, there are stories of Christ doing things that were. He talked about reincarnation, he spoke to women, taught women, for God's sakes. That was, that was frowned upon. That was actually illegal. He was a, a rebel, a troublemaker, and he only showed love to people. Yeah. And he got angry. He flipped the table in, in the temple. But yet the people who follow his. People who follow his teachings don't act the way they do because it's not, not. It's not within the structure of the religion or of the set of rules that they have been brought up to believe in or that they tout. So I find that such an interesting idea. How did you deal with. Did you ever have that question within yourself, like, wow, you guys are, you know, and again, I don't want to, I'm not trying to poke anything or I, I don't want, I want to be as respectful as possible to you and your experiencer. But when that happened to you, and I think there's a lesson here for people listening, when that happened to you, did you question, like wow, you guys are like, really into this Greek Orthodox religion, but yet. And really into this Christ guy. But you're not acting like him by throwing me out or rejecting what I am as at my. My truth. And I'm not hurting anybody. It's not like you're off doing meth somewhere, you know, hurting yourself or hurting other people. You're not a drug dealer, you know, you're. You're just speaking your truth out of love. So I find it so interesting that people who say that they follow Christ never act that way. A lot of people don't. Excuse me. That never. But it doesn't act that way, especially in your condition and in a smaller way. My, My, My, My experience. So I just wanted to throw that out there to you because I think there's some. There's a lesson here for people listening. I think someone listening needs to hear this.

[Nico Caputos]

Okay, you know what? First of all, before I answer that question. And somebody actually responded to a post I made on Facebook regarding a course I was offering, and they stated scripture from the Bible about do not follow a medium. But the irony is that when the church was first created, and many people don't even know this, they had a priest offering the sermon and then followed with a medium, bringing in loved ones and messages. And the medium was more popular. People would come at the end of church for that and skip the liturgy, the service. And that's when they got rid of the medium so they can control the mass competition, make money, become powerful, and in order to preserve their control and success, they started banning the medium, badmouthing the medium, and, you know, and burning and burning them.

[Alex Ferrari]

And burning, burning them, killing them.

[Nico Caputos]

Sure. Exactly. You referenced me as a psychic medium a couple of times, and that's fine. I have a problem with that. What I do is usually. What I do is usually describe that way. But the way I approach it is a bit different. Right. I'm less focused on the label and more focused on understanding how information is actually appearing and being expressed. Right. Because whether we call us it's psychic mediumship or something else, the underlying mechanism is the same. Right. And with that approach is how I also recognize when my identity interfered was when I felt the pain of being the outcast and losing family and. Or not being understood. But then I went back to the underlining mechanism and understanding my quest of seeking knowledge and remembrance, applying it to soul contracts, applying it to growth, applying it to. That's their journey. This is my journey. And nothing really phases me anymore. I don't. I don't it doesn't affect me, nor am I affecting them. And also, if my parents don't speak to me anymore, how am I so certain is my identity? That's not part of the sole agreement.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Nico Caputos]

Maybe that's intentional so they can go through their changes now in their later years. Maybe those seeds are planted that they're asking themselves, am I really honoring my belief or am I the Bible thumping? Am I a hypocrite? Maybe that's why the silence is powerful. See, there's a lot More behind it. But when we're seeking it to appease the identity's interest, we're not following the truth. We're creating illusions. We're creating what is a good answer to appease me as my identity and soften the blow. But there is no blow if you really think about it.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, this is all an illusion in general. But when we're here, though, if you. You hurt, you feel. That's the point of this whole thing.

[Nico Caputos]

But even.

[Alex Ferrari]

But then you can transcend. But you can transcend it, right? That's the thing. But you have to go through it, though, because I'm assuming at one point or another, you. You were hurt. Yeah, it was painful.

[Nico Caputos]

Also, notice. Notice how much pain you've experienced over this life so far. Okay? Now, out of that, what percentage really broke the surface and landed deep? December, that. That percentage is what lasts when that breaks the surface and really gets you deep. That's how your higher self actually integrates it, Feeling it as you live it. All the other pain that doesn't reach the surface and penetrate it, that's part of the human existence that's not real. So that never really penetrated it. That's how I know it's surface level. And it's just part of an experience. It's the reaction of an experience. It doesn't really hurt. That really deep love that really penetrates, that's intentional. That's the agreement. When it really breaks the surface, that's the covenant taking place. That's how your. Your human, Your higher self integrates it. So you kind of learn how to gauge it from the human lens.

[Alex Ferrari]

I. I mean, Nico, I absolutely love what you're doing, man, and how you're doing it. You seem like. You seem like. You seem like a depressed person and having a rough time at life.

[Nico Caputos]

But

[Alex Ferrari]

as I was asking the question about your family, I'm like, you have a smile on your face. I'm like, this guy. You're funny, dude.

[Nico Caputos]

Hey, where can I buy one of those cool hats?

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[Nico Caputos]

I plugged it. Awesome. I didn't even know I did that.

[Alex Ferrari]

I appreciate it. That was. That was not planned. That was not planned. I mean, this has been such a beautiful conversation. And I think it's a. It's a Converse, it's. It's a conversation that not only for me, at least it didn't only just. Just gave me a different lens to look at. All of the Stuff that we do, it just, it's just kind of like you're looking at it from a new perspective. It's not, it's not. We're all basically in the same ballpark, you know, our conversation. It's not like apples and oranges. It's apples and granny apples. Like, it's both apples.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. Good. That's really good. Because a lot of podcasts I'm on, they. They're not, you know, resonating like you are. So that's, that's really great. And you should be proud of yourself. You getting, you remembering. Good job.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. And I think the same thing will happen to people listening, you know, because there are certain ideas that were thrown out in this conversation that is going to be mind blowing. Some of them. I even had to kind of start to like, okay, wait a minute, okay, this. And I, I have these conversations all the time. I live in this kind of world all the time. So this was a really beautiful conversation. And I think it's even more so than just understanding the mechanics of a lot of this stuff. It really starts to help you wrap your head around what we're doing here. Exactly why we're here. And also help us heal the perceived hurts.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

We have gotten throughout our lives.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because. Because, look, and I always tell people, like in a hundred years from now, now, if you're remembered by anybody, it's a miracle. In 500 years by now, you would have had to have done something so miraculous in this lifetime to be even spoken about. A thousand years from now, you're going to be one of a handful of humans that people will remember.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

If you look at it that way. And it's not because we're insignificant. It's about, no, we're here. Do what you can to bring as much love into the world, to be as kind as you can, to learn as much, to experience enough to be, to help others. That's what I see we're here to do. It's not about who gets the most toys. I let go of that a long, long time ago.

[Nico Caputos]

Right. It's also if you fulfill. If you fulfill your purpose as essence, truly fulfill your purpose as essence.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Nico Caputos]

Whatever that is that outlives you. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Nico Caputos]

So even because what I'm doing right now, again, it was never my intention to write the books and the courses and I've been with a movie. Movie. What are we doing with the movie? It all comes through me and I'm just take it throwing out in the world, like just. I'm Meant to bring this out, let it out there. I've come to the realization that it's going to outlive me. So it might not be impactful today, but in 50 years or 100 years from now, it's going to find its home with those. That generation that's fulfilling your purpose as.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I will give you a perfect example of that. And it's a sad example from our perspective, but it is a, A perfect example of what you're saying. Vincent van Gogh, right. He lived his purpose and his essence his entire life and died broke, broke, mad, insane.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And, and then he, his work touched the world in a way that it's still resonating today. His life was interesting. If there are people who want to dig into his life, it's interesting. But his work is what sinks. Charles Dickett. I don't know anything about Charles Dickens really. I mean, other than he was English, I think. English. He's a British, British chap and he wrote some amazing books, amazingly. But, but what did, what did you remember? What, what resonates to this day? Christmas Carol.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, these other books that he wrote, you know.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, Oliver Twist. These are books, these are the stories that still res. Shakespeare. Very little is even known about that man.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And all, and all that work is, is what resonates that because they followed their. As Joseph Campbell would say, they followed their bliss.

[Nico Caputos]

Right. That's a bliss. I like that. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

When George Lucas, when George Lucas leaves this planet, Star wars will be remembered for centuries to come.

[Nico Caputos]

Of course. Of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

Centuries to come.

[Nico Caputos]

That's the, that, that, that's how you put into perspective how many, how many people are focusing on instant gratification, reward success. That's not really the soul's purpose. It's not about. It's not about doing for what you receive. The same way we love, we love with conditions we don't love unconditionally as we are essence. So the more you remember your essence, it's not just a matter of remembering it, like I said earlier, speaking your truth, but acting as it. Love unconditionally. Offer the world whatever you're meant to offer the world unconditionally. Ask for nothing in return. That's being in alignment with your essence. And that's when those who are meant to align with you appear on your journey and there's more purpose involved. That's. That's why we're here. But not everybody sees that. When people say, oh, I can't stand my life, I want to commit suicide, I want to leave. I'm like, whoa, your identity has controlled you too much. We all have a purpose is finding the purpose. And again, you can't find the purpose through the identity's lens.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, so then I want to ask you this question, because I know a lot of people listening right now are going through this. Somebody right now listening is going through a tremendous amount of pain. I don't know what type of pain it is, but it could be emotional pain, it could be physical pain, it could be an illness, it could be an ailment, something. Some are going through psychological pain, some of them going through trauma or have gone through trauma, and they just won't let go of it. What advice do you have for someone who is. Let's use physical pain, for example. Someone who's in a tremendous amount of physical pain, daily pain, and has been going on for years, and they really just don't know what else to do because that's, you know, everything we're talking about is. Is very philosophical, very beautiful. But every day when you wake up and you're an absolute pain, you. It's hard for me to wrap my head around going, my identity feels this pain. I. I do not feel this pain. This is the. This is part of the. The soul contract. All that goes out the window when you're like, son of a. You know, this is.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, this hurts, man.

[Alex Ferrari]

What advice do you have for them?

[Nico Caputos]

Okay, now notice this, right? If I'm in pain, I'm focusing on the pain, Right. I'm always focusing on the pain. Right, right. It's also an energetic pain. It's the physical body. It's the physical reality. It's energetic. Okay, yes, we're not healers, nor doctors healers, but you can definitely heal your own body through your essence through that different energetic vibrational frequency.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Nico Caputos]

The more you ascend, the more you elevate, the more you connect, the more you don't. You're not connected to the body, only you. You're expanded. You feel the energy coming through. You can heal your ailments. Okay. It's like the the bottom feeding fish only stay at the bottom of the sea of this float. Don't stay at the bottom of the sea. Don't let it pull you down. Notice if you're hurting or you're psychologically depressed, whatever, you remain with it for a long time and you sink. You stay down. You stay in this lower energetic frequency. We all have the same ability to elevate, but we don't. Instead, we give excuses, we allow to define us. We become the pain. Everything is painful. You're adding to it. You're manifesting more pain without realizing it. You don't need to do anything. But just remember, you're not the body. You're the energetic force behind it that carries a different energetic frequency. You could stop focusing on the pain, start manifesting, bringing in your own light, your own energy. It starts eventually dissolving.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is that easy when you said that? It's an analogy I use quite often which is is an analogy of the Ocean, where we were born, we're born closer to the surface.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because we just came from above the surface. We're closer to the surface. Then all of a sudden, our caretakers, our religions, our communities, our countries, our everything starts throwing stuff on you and you start to sink and sink.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

And it gets denser and denser and denser as you get to the. To the floor. And then most of us live throughout our lives on the floor of the ocean, lugging all of this crap around. But then when you start to meditate, when you start to become in silence, when you start to open yourself up, you start to release some of those things and you start to blow it up a little bit and you start to load up with it. When we talk about our avatars, our masters are the ascended masters, these kind of people who walk the Earth.

[Nico Caputos]

Earth.

[Alex Ferrari]

They were able to let go of all of that, Right. All the way to the top, pick their head out of the water while they're still. While they're still here on the ocean. But they can peek their head out of the water and go, oh. Because as you, as you walk through, I don't know if you. I'm sure you have. You live on an island. If you walk in the sea or if you walk in water, it's very dense, it's very hot.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

But the lighter you get and the higher you get up out of the water, it's so much easier.

[Nico Caputos]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then you actually sow the truth. You're like, oh, wait a minute, we're not supposed to be. We're not from the ocean. We're just visiting. Right. We're actually above the ocean in the air. Does that all make sense to you?

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah. 100. That's why we don't recognize the most powerful tool we have that we fear and take for granted. And that's trans mediumship, because you are at that level of the surface in trance, and that's where remembrance is pouring in. So when you come back, when you're. When you shift your focus back to the reality, you are at the bottom of the sea. But since you've already been to the surface while you're living, you realize this is temporary. And you could always float back up whenever you feel like it. And the more you do that continuously, the more you realize you're not really touching the bottom the way you used to because your perception has changed. And then. And you are able to consciously float back to the top without going into transit training ground to realize everything's an illusion, no relationship should affect you the way it does because again, it's intentional. No worries of finances, no worries about other people's baggage or the illnesses. That's all the identity grabbing on to attaching to it to give purpose to the identity. That's the bottom of the sea.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's. And the identity is another word for the ego, essentially.

[Nico Caputos]

Ego. Ego. Ego's another word for the control. Absolutely, yeah. Ego, control, identity. 100. 100.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, so I'm going to ask you the most important question I've asked you in this entire conversation, Nico.

[Nico Caputos]

Oh, geez.

[Alex Ferrari]

Can. Can you see Uncle Bob? Is Uncle Bob with me? You know what?

[Nico Caputos]

We could. We could do a reading. We could do.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's all good. I don't know. I don't need to Uncle. But I don't have an Uncle Bob. But I always just use Uncle Bob and. Yeah, and Jane and Uncle Bob. That's so amazing, Nico. Where can people find out about. More about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

[Nico Caputos]

Oh, just. We're going to keep it simple, Nico. The medium dot com. N I K O the medium dot com. Everything is on that. Instead of giving the list, they could just go on that and you know, whoever's meant to resonate will. Whoever's meant to find what they're meant to find on the website. They will.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you have books and other things like that out there?

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, I have book. I've already published three books. I'm on the fourth one. There's an online academy I've created two years in the making. There's courses that I offer. Live through zoom. It just. There's a whole bunch of stuff. Again, a far cry from New York contractor. Every once in a while I look at that like, what a change. One of my good friends is like, I can't believe you threw all that away to chase this. This illusionary dream. I go threw that away, huh? He's like, oh, you're doing great. Just derailed your whole life. But I'm like, that's your perception.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. And they said the same thing to Vincent. They said the same thing to Vincent. The same to Charles. The same, same. The same thing to Spielberg they said, Right?

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, everybody who follows their bliss, the. The people around them, like, you're insane. You can't. You can't sell books over the Internet.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, you know, all these kind of things, you know, can't land a rocket.

[Nico Caputos]

Exactly, exactly. Go to the moon. I guess the most humbling part of this journey Is that even. Even that I don't. I. I don't really pitch myself. I don't sell myself. You know, I don't. I don't speak about this stuff because that by doing that, I'm kind of resorting back to the identity. You know, it's like it's essence to essence. My essence's purpose is to bring this articulation, this vocabulary back into the world at this time was meant for them to hear it. Who it lands with is not my concern. You see, that's. That's the beauty. That's why it's humbling. I just keep saying it and offering it, and wherever it's going to land, it's meant to happen. Oh. And that's. That's what's great about it.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's what we do with this.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

We put it out there and it. It finds people in ways that I can't even understand. I just do this work and put it out there and I can't control it. I really can't control who sees it. When they see it, at what time in their lives, they see. This conversation. This conversation will resonate for many, many years to come. And it will find the people that need to find it, when they find it and when they're ready for it. When I read. When I read Autobiography of the Yogi in my 20s.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I looked. I looked at. And I said, what the hell is this? This is way too weird. This is way too wacky. We're talking about biolocation and meditation. Like, it was. So far, I wasn't ready.

[Nico Caputos]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Then in my 30s, I picked it up again. Actually, in my 40s, in my early 40s, I picked it up again, and I was like, oh, yeah. And then it just changed me.

[Nico Caputos]

Right. Then you're ready for it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Then I was ready for it, so. Same thing. So sometimes things do hit us. They plant seeds when we're not ready. It's not that we're not ready for it. We're not ready for it. So we plant seeds, and those seeds can come up in a year or in 50 years.

[Nico Caputos]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

It really.

[Nico Caputos]

It really is exactly right. That's why you. You're living your purpose, and that's beautiful. That's all we can do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nico, man, it has been such a pleasure and honor speaking to you in this conversation. I can. I just. I just know what this is going to do to people out there. I can't wait to get this out into the world, my friend. You are a beautiful, beautiful soul, my friend. A brave and beautiful soul for doing what you're doing in the world. So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet, my friend. So thank you.

[Nico Caputos]

As are you. And thank you. The honor has been mine. It truly has been.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this [e-mail] 688 and if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Are. Begin your journey at Next Level Soul tv. Until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking, and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.

[Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson]

One thing about the locker room, it's a mix of everything. Different races, religions, backgrounds, opinions. All of it. And yeah, you argue, you joke around, you disagree constantly. But when it actually matters, you've got each other's backs. No question. That's just being a good teammate. And honestly, that shouldn't stop when the game ends. But right now, hate is rising across communities in different ways, and Jewish communities are getting hit hard by it. And hate doesn't stay in one place, it spreads. So this isn't about agreeing on everything, it's just about showing up for people. The blue square is a simple way to do that. Just saying. Yeah, I'm not cool with hate. Go to bluesquarealliance.org, grab one. Share it. It's not complicated. Just be the kind of teammate you'd want in your corner.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this spring. Sweeten your day, one sweet treat at a time. Now through May 26th. Whether you're shopping for gifts for friends and family or just want to pick me up for yourself, get great deals on your favorite sweet treats. Shop in store or online and save on items like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, Trident Sugar Free Gum, Albanese Gummy Bears, Kinder Wafer Eggs, or Snickers bars. Get these deals before they're gone. Offer ends May 26th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Nico Caputos]

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Nico Caputos]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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