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Humanity's Spiritual Roller Coaster with Jennifer Rose
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Why are so many souls awakening at this moment in history? In this profound conversation, psychic medium and trance channel Jennifer Rose shares why the separation between the spirit world and the physical world has always been an illusion. Together,...
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Voidware prohibited by law 21 terms and conditions apply. Welcome to Next Level Soul. The place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here, we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose and our consciousness to the Next Level? This is a space for Transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next level soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv. Our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions or of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now, let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome the show Jennifer Rose.
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Jennifer Rose
How are you doing, Jennifer? Hi, Alex. I'm doing really well. Thank you so much for having me.
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Alex Ferrari
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I am. I am intrigued with your. Your story. I mean, I love all the intuitives that come on the show because they all have different journeys, some similarities, but all different journeys to get to where they are. As a professional doing this out in the open and not in the corner of an occult bookstore somewhere. You know what I mean?
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Jennifer Rose
So, yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
So let me ask you, can you take me back to the first moment that you knew spirit was speaking to you? Because for everybody who doesn't know who you are, you are a psychic medium, right? So you do speak to the dead or to people on the other side. And you're also. You're also an intuitive, so you can get messages and things like that. So can you explain when was the first moment you started saying, hey, something is a little different here?
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Jennifer Rose
Very good question. Even when I was a little girl, I did know I was intuitive. And in that time period, no one really believed me, so I just kind of kept it quiet. But I had an awareness that I sort of knew things, you know, and so I. I just kind of kept that quiet. And I. I wasn't one of the children seeing a lot of spirits, but I did have spiritual experiences that I can look back on now and go, oh, w. That was spirit. You know, I just. As a child, you don't know what that is. You just feel something. You feel this, you know, amazing, you know, love and light come over you. And like, oh, that was spirit visiting me. And so I had a few of these things along the way happen. And I was always interested in anything metaphysical from the time I was Little. So if there was anything on tv, I was drawn to it, you know, like a moth to a flame. And as a teen, I was over at the metaphysical bookstores, you know, looking at the crystals, looking at the books, you know, having little readings with the psychics who are working there and things like that, too. And so I just. I just kind of kept that part of me not completely quiet, but just kept that. I kept it. I didn't completely deny it. And it just wasn't until later in life that finally the calling came. It's almost like the light switch came on and said, it's time. And I'm like, okay. Scary, but okay, let's go.
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Alex Ferrari
So I wanted to ask you just from your own personal perspective, when you were getting those readings in the back, because, I mean, I've. I've had readings in the back of a metaphysical bookstore, and I'm curious, how accurate were they? No. Oh, did you. I mean, did you. Could you go back and go, oh, she was really good, or was it like, oh, God, this is just a gypsy, you know what I mean? So what did you. What was your experience in that?
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Jennifer Rose
They, they were all. They were all good that I can remember. If I, If I go back and look, I would, I would say most of them were very. Yeah, really. And, and they, they did validate me, you know, and, and my abilities too, and helped me with other life stuff that was happening at the time. And so I can look them back and say they, they actually were good.
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Alex Ferrari
That's, That's a good. Because, I mean, as a young, as a young man, I mean, psychics and mediums and all that stuff were embedded in my culture and the Cuban culture. So I, I was always searching out psychics, but I was always searching out psychics because I was afraid of what was going to come next. Yeah, but it doesn't sound like that you were just exploring. You were just trying to get validation. Anybody ever. Did anyone ever tell you about what you're doing now? Did any of. Any of the psychics that you spoke to before you became a professional psychic?
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Jennifer Rose
I don't think so. Not that I remember. Not. Not that I remember. So that wouldn't have been until later, when I was already developing and got it. I do remember one of my teachers was in trance. We were in a physical mediumship circle at the time. And the spirit helper who came through him did let me know, like, you're going to be doing big things in front of lots of people. And I'm like, okay. And so I just knew I wanted to be a medium, and I didn't know all of these other things would come forth, like the trance and the teaching and the shows and all of this. So it's been a big surprise, but a fun journey. Really hard journey, too, but, yeah. So I. I didn't get that inkling that something that this big was going to show up for me.
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Alex Ferrari
Now, when you say trance, are you talking about channeling or what does that mean exactly?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, yeah. So I'm a trance medium as well. So I trained for that almost from the beginning as well, too. So trans and channeling, I kind of use them interchangeably. Everybody's a little different in how they like to describe it. There's just different levels from inspired speaking into deep trance, where you barely remember anything. And there's a very, very strong control with you. You know what I mean? Like, very strong blending is what the word I was using for that, too. And I really enjoy doing it, though. That's fun.
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Alex Ferrari
So is it. So is it like. So it's an example. Is it Whoopi Goldberg and Ghost, where a spirit actually comes into your body, or is it just like channeling your hearing, the voids and you're.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, so I just allow my awareness to go farther and farther out of, you know, out of the way. And so I allow for a blending to take place, but they're not going in your body. They're just kind of merging with sort of your energy. If you want to be really accurate, it's coming in through your awareness, but you feel it. You have an experiential, energetic blend that happens, and the energy will get pretty kind of dense, like this big, heavy blanket that comes over you. So if you're going into a deeper level trance, and then you just practice letting your own self fall away. So you have to have a lot of trust in spirit world to be able to do that. Many people, they use the word channeling when they're talking about connecting with, say, angels or interdimensional beings, things like that. That would be more common with that word. But you're channeling, you're channeling. So it's really the same thing. It's just some people section it off. And trance speaking means guides and loved ones, and channeling means interdimensional beings and things like that.
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Alex Ferrari
Ascended masters.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the real difference is how deep you get. So you can be, you know, from just inspired speaking and automatic writing, and then you can go deeper and deeper and deeper to where you barely remember Anything that's happened.
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Alex Ferrari
So, so, so. So when you're a trance medium, are you basically channeling a loved one? So Uncle Bob. I always use Uncle Bob. I don't have an Uncle Bob, but Uncle Bob is my default spirit. So if uncle. If you and I are having a session and Uncle Bob shows up, does Uncle Bob kind of go through you and then speaks to me directly? I'm just curious of how it works.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah. So when you're. When you're in trance and a loved one is connecting us, they would be speaking to you as if it were them. It wouldn't be me being kind of the translator, like, with mental mediumship, you know, I'm like, your Uncle Bob is telling me this. He's showing me this, so that's different. But they would actually be. Just be speaking directly to you as them. And so you would want, you know, enough. Enough of their essence to come through and so that you would feel very confident it was them, if that makes sense.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah. So. So in other words, it wouldn't be. You're not translating anymore. I'm actually having a conversation with. With Uncle Bob. So it is a version of. Of Whoopi Goldberg, but without the. The possession, if you will, like Bob's energy.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, that's not.
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Alex Ferrari
You're having a. Yeah, yeah. I've never. Yeah, they got a lot of things right in that movie. They got a few things off. But so. So it's just. You are having a direct. So that's interesting because I. That's. Yeah, that's rare. That's not as many trans. Me.
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Jennifer Rose
It's not as common. Yeah, yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
That.
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Jennifer Rose
It's not that I've come across. Yeah. And I don't do that a lot, but I have. I have worked with that before. But most common would be, like, spirit. That's probably the most common when it comes, especially if you're in the mediumship world. That's most common of what's expected. But I do both. I get angelic frequencies quite a bit. And I have had some ETS show up for me as well, too. And sometimes it's a collective, so I don't have a preference. It's like whoever is here that would like to communicate, I'm. I'm just. I come with my open heart and say, you're welcome and let's do this.
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Alex Ferrari
A lot of people. Yeah, so, yeah, I was going to say a lot of people listening then would. Would be concerned about, you know, darker injuries or, like, who's. Who's coming through, you all that stuff. And from my understanding, in my experience, is that you either have your own kind of spirit team, like as bouncers at the door, kind of protecting you on the other side, only allowing certain things to come through, through, so by the time they get to you, you. You have a. You're. You feel safe. Is that kind of the way it works with you, or are you just like, hey, whoever's coming in, let's love?
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Jennifer Rose
I've just never had anything bad ever happen like that too. And I. But I came in, you know, with, you know, good teachers that taught me about the spirit world and that helped me. So I didn't come in there with a lot of, like, fear and preexisting belief systems. And so that can change your experience, whatever your belief systems are too. So it's just never been an issue for me too. So. Yeah. And everything that comes through is just love. So sometimes people will say, who do you channel? And it doesn't really matter. Is the, the, the. The identity or the personality doesn't really matter to me. It's just like I. Sometimes I'll just. I just channel love. I just.
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Alex Ferrari
Why not?
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Jennifer Rose
It's not as important as the message. It's not as important as the experience that you're having. The feeling and the atmosphere. Do you feel the. Do you feel the opening of your heart? Do you feel the love of the spirit world kind of embracing you? Do you. Do you feel your own soul starting to recognize the words and saying, yeah, that feels right. That's. That's the cult.
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Alex Ferrari
That's awesome. That's awesome.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
Now, when you, when you started to do this professionally, what did your family think? What did your friends think? You know, was it always like, oh, it's Jennifer, she's the weirdo. That makes sense, you know, how does it work? How did it work?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, Yeah, I, I would say some of them weren't too surprised and to try to be as supportive as they could be, that doesn't mean they believed the same things that I believed. So now, like, with family, we just. There's different levels of belief systems there, and we just respect each other. It doesn't bother me. Like, I have no desire to change any of my family members to think a different way. Like, that's their journey. And so we just respect each other as we are, and that works very well. My friends have completely changed. I wouldn't say that my old friends rejected me. It was just my life changed and went in a new direction. And, you know, they gradually just kind of Fade away over time. So, yeah, a lot of new. New friends, new circles and. But I love it. I love the. I love the community that we're all building together and. And meeting new people like yourself. So it's. It is a lot of fun.
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Alex Ferrari
Did you have a religious background when you were growing up or spiritual background growing up?
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Jennifer Rose
Not really. I. I went to church with my family when I was a little girl for a few years, and then we just kind of stopped. And so I'm kind of grateful for that because it didn't. It, you know, it didn't put more conditioning into my awareness that I would have to, say, unravel or let go and those kinds of things too. So I'm kind of grateful for that, that that didn't happen because I know that's been really hard for people who have left their organized religion, you know, where it's Catholicism or something else. And it's. It's a lot of work to heal that and sort of let go of. Of what they were told into something new and the unknown of that, if that makes sense. So, yeah, I'm grateful that I didn't put that in my basket. As a soul coming down. I didn't say, let's have enough trauma. That wasn't my best.
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Alex Ferrari
I picked every. I picked other things in the. In the shopping cart. In the shopping cart, yeah, exactly. So when you. So explain to me your process of when you are seeing or when you're communicating to the other side, is it a clairvoyance? Is a clairaudience? All the Claires. Which Claire or which combination of Claires do you have?
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Alex Ferrari
Obviously you say you don't see Uncle Bob walking around. Is it a hearing or is it a truly just a channeling?
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Jennifer Rose
It's everything. So at this point, all my Claires just work together. So it's, you know, I'm seeing and feeling and sort of hearing things all at the same time. And that's just. So it comes out pretty quickly. I don't smell and taste as often as I feel, see, and hear or know. But yeah, I. They kind of all work together over time for me. And then I have awareness. There's a shift in the atmosphere, and it's just like, oh, someone's here. And it. It's pretty quick now, but I've been doing it for a long time, so. And I've. I've worked really hard.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, mostly. Yeah. Yeah, mostly. So there's objective and subjective clairvoyance. And so objective is when you literally can see spirits outside with your eyeballs. And that's pretty rare. Some people can see shadows on walls and things like that. I. You. I have seen like spirit lights and things like that too. But most of it is subjective. It's in my mind's eye. So it's kind of like having this movie sort of playing and it comes out, but anyone can do it. I would say imagine a red apple and you see a red apple in your mind. That's your clairvoyance. The only difference is spirit would put the red apple in there for you instead of you imagining it. That's the only difference.
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Alex Ferrari
So how do you and I think this is the biggest problem with people trying to open up their own abilities. How can you tell if the apple is you putting the apple there or if some. Or the spirit world is putting the apple there? Because it's very confusing unless there's a booming voice or, you know, the voice of God or some. Something that's so outside of you, then you could go, obviously, yeah, else. But most of the times it's just your own voice, Right?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah. And mediumship happens in the imagination part of your mind and your brain. So that's the biggest question, everybody. And eventually you just know. Eventually you get to trust yourself, your connection and spirit world more and more and more that where you just know and you're just so in the flow. There's nothing else kind of competing with it too. It's better to say it and be wrong than not say it and have been right and missed an opportunity to learn that sort of learn the difference, if that makes sense. So there it is possible that your own mind can filter information and add information in, especially if you're trying to figure out what you're getting. So once, once that part kind of comes in, then it can be your mind wants to help a little bit. So over time you'll get better and better and better at this. It's just trying to help. It's not trained. It's not trying to mess up your reading. It's just trying to help. It helps also if you can learn to feel the energy, learn to feel the power of the spirit world. And so then you feel the shift in the atmosphere, you feel the emote. They usually can make you feel a bit emotional as they come close because it's a very loving frequency that in with. And so that helps too. And you know, maybe you get some tingles or something like that too, so that can help give you some reassurance that it's happening. But it's, it's practice. You just got to keep practicing with people, get their yeses, get their nose, their I don't knows and keep going. And eventually that muscle gets stronger and stronger and stronger. Just like your body's muscles get stronger with practice too. So.
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Alex Ferrari
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
With you, with you. And I know with your, your, your, your channeling or trans mediumship, did you have to kind of build up your nervous system to handle those energies coming in? Because from what I understand, if you're just a fresh trans medium and then, you know, a very powerful energy comes through, let's say an ascended master Jesus walks in.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
And wants to channel through you. It's a heavy. Not heavy, but it's a very powerful energy and you're, you're nervous physically might not be able to handle. So you have to kind of build up a tolerance. Is that the way it works with you?
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Jennifer Rose
A little bit. I can say that I can, that I'm more accustomed to it now that I've gotten used to it. So I could say that's true. Grounding is really important. We all talk about that. That's really important. But I do know that when power gets intense, we can go into fear and create stories about it too. And so that's when your nervous system actually gets to be feeling maybe a little unsafe or uncertain too. And so I also know that sometimes when that power comes in, people tend to hold their breath and then it gets more intense. So I always use just relax into it. So especially if you're practicing with trance and your, your helper is coming a little closer, a little closer. I recommend practicing it that way. A little bit closer, a little bit closer. And then keep just relaxing into it. Just relaxing into it as it gets a little bit more intense too. They're not there to harm you and they're very aware of what's happening too. So they're, they know you're safe. It's more of like what our minds are doing to interpret the energy versus what's actually happening. So that's my lens.
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Alex Ferrari
So. So yeah, I know a lot of other psychics and mediums, a lot of times they get woken up in the middle of the night because Uncle Bob wants like, you're going to talk to me and Uncle Bob wants to talk to me. So the night before they're like, hey, I'm here. And you're like, dude, I'm trying to sleep. It's three o' clock in the morning. Is that something that happens to you and do you have a closed sign or is it not something that really bothers you?
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Jennifer Rose
That's never really been a big problem for me. I do sometimes get woken up at night, but it's not from like someone's loved one. Random loved ones bothering me too. And I feel the energy all the time. So there's no, I'm closed, I'm open. I'm always open. But I'm not afraid of always being open. I don't want to close my channel, but I've been through so much transformation that I'm always connected to it. I'm always aware of it. I'm just in different levels of how much Jennifer, I feel myself to be too. So. Yeah, so. But those things can happen to people. And it may be different than what people are thinking. It may be just trying to give you a lesson in setting a boundary. Maybe that's hard for that person. It's hard for a lot of people. And so it may happen literally just to give you lesson in learning to send a Set a boundary. But also, especially newer mediums are very curious. So they have a hard time letting go of a spirit connection. And so they carry it with them. And they go, oh, that. That Grandpa's followed me from. From my development circle all the way home, and it's still talking to me. It's like, because you're super curious and you kind of like it, and that's okay because grandpa's not gonna hurt you. But
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Alex Ferrari
let me. Let me ask you with. With spirits on the other side, our past loved ones, to my understanding, all. All lifetimes are happening at the exact same time. So the past. There is no past. There's no future on the other side, which makes our head hurt. Makes our head hurt.
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Jennifer Rose
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah. So, like, wait a minute, what's going on here? So I always. I always like to ask the question from your point of view. Uncle Bob, right? He's wearing the Uncle Bob suit and mask and character. So that spirit is playing that character, but Uncle Bob, at the exact same quote, unquote, time is also in ancient Rome, also in ancient Egypt, also, you know, in the Highlands of Scotland right now, also, you know, working with Cleopatra, and then also in the future somewhere else, all living at the exact same time, which, again, hurts my head to think about. And if we understand that there's a higher self or an oversoul, let's say, or the higher self, and that higher self or oversoul is kind of fragments of it are in all of these experiences. So a fragment of the oversoul is Uncle Bob then?
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Jennifer Rose
Correct.
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Alex Ferrari
Why is Uncle Bob still hanging out if it. Like, we're getting into the weeds here. So why is Uncle Bob hanging out as Uncle Bob when he's obviously not in this reality? What's the purpose of it other than maybe to help me connect with him at a certain point? Will Uncle Bob just not be around anymore when everyone who knew Uncle Bob is gone? And if that's the case, what happens to celebrities who people know about for sometimes hundreds, if not thousands, like Alexander the Great, Cleopatra, like, are they still hanging around? So I'm asking you very deep, hard questions here. So do the best you can.
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Jennifer Rose
I love this stuff. So the weeds. It's the weeds you get. You get my mind. I love the. The turning your mind into a pretzel thing. So I was given a pretty easy, simple answer. And it. So, because people always want to know, is my grandma gonna get reincarnated and I won't be able to talk to her anymore? That's. That's. People get very worried about that. And so the way it was shown to me is if you think of a chain with a bunch of links on it, right? You're one of those links, and all of the other links are the other lifetimes, okay? But you're still your link. And so when you move in consciousness, in the spirit world, that essence of you and your link, it does change because you lose parts of your personality that were more egoic, so to say. I don't like using that word because people bash it so much. But. But it's. It's one that we know. And. But you become more of your full essence. You know, your. You and your higher self are sort of like re. Merged together, but you still are your little link. And that link can continue to go on and expand and do whatever it wants or chooses to do via the soul of it, right? And now you're also linked to other people and their lifetimes. And so now you have this big web of links, of interconnected links. But energy is not limited. It's limitless. And it's. We're beyond energy, we're consciousness, we're. We're love, we're light. And even beyond that, you can't put it into words. It's the. It's the. Can't find a word for what that is, but it's continually limitless. So there's. There's no running out of energy for souls or to make new lifetimes. It just keeps happening, if that makes sense. So. So we could always find Uncle Bob, and Uncle Bob will come in. Now, we can get ancestors. They come in sometimes they're less evidential. Most people can't validate information about them because they don't know them unless they've done genealogy and had stories told to them from their great grandmother and things like that too. So it's less common, but it could happen. And you could connect with, say, a celebrity. Less common, but it could happen, right? And so I think Uncle Bob, even though he's a. We've made him up for now, but someone's got an Uncle Bob.
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Alex Ferrari
Yes, they do.
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Ryan Seacrest
Will.
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Jennifer Rose
Will continue on into spirit world. And we, we won't lose him. We can still find him.
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Ryan Seacrest
So.
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Jennifer Rose
But why, why would he keep hanging around? Because the spirit world and the physical world are not separate. Never were. Yeah, they're, they're, they're integrated together and constantly communicating with it. So. But we look at it and we think of it like it is separate, but yet it's right here all at the same time happening at once. So I know that gets, that gets a little mind painting, but if the more we can think big, think limitless and expansive, then we can start to wrap our minds around that just a little bit it. And kind of get there. Is, is that helpful?
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it did actually. It's really nice. I love, I love the idea of the links. Yeah, that's a really interesting map. But now I'm gonna complicate things even more.
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Jennifer Rose
Okay, let's go.
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Alex Ferrari
Parallel lifetimes happening at the exact same time. So in another lifetime, you're interviewing me and you have another show and I'm, and I'm a psychic medium in that show because who knows? And vice versa. So it's. Those I understand are, are literally almost and not almost. They are endless variations. So. Yeah, and please, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. From my understanding is that Alex and Jennifer are both. These are the characters. Now within these characters, we are going to experience as many infinite lifetimes as these characters doing different things. So in parallel lifetimes down the road, I might be an absolute tyrant and a horrible, horrible soul person, whatever. And then the other one, a Mother Teresa or, you know, an ascended master, and, and everything in between all. So both extremes and experiencing all and all. But within this character, within the Alex character and the Jennifer character, is that makes sense to you from your understanding of the, of the other side?
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Jennifer Rose
It makes perfect sense to me because we're talking about infinite awareness and expansion where anything is possible or going beyond beyond.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, right. So then what we just talked about, Uncle Bob. Well then there's infinite versions of Uncle Bob who have interacted with different versions of us in multiple different lifetimes, isn't it? My head is just starting to burn up.
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Jennifer Rose
Isn't it great?
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Alex Ferrari
So all of everything I'm saying makes sense to you, right?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But your Uncle Bob still matters to you.
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Alex Ferrari
Regardless.
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Jennifer Rose
Your, your version of Uncle Bob is still connected to you. It's still, there's a bridge of love that. And it matters. So even when we talk about this in this, you know, very multi dimensional way, like the, the little us still matters too. We're telling a grand story altogether, really big one.
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Alex Ferrari
So in many ways, when you said that, the first thing that popped into my head. I'm a filmmaker, so I use movie references all the time.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, you.
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Alex Ferrari
I'm assuming you're familiar with the movie Citizen Kane, that classic film.
- [33:03]
Jennifer Rose
I have not watched that one.
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Alex Ferrari
You shouldn't. It's okay. It's not. It's a tough watch, but it's a classic film and it's a very legendary movie. And it was about, basically, Hearst. It was like a clone of, you know, William Randolph Halston, the big tycoon from the early 1900s. And he had this huge master, bigger than life, everything. But it all came down to one thing. And for spoiler alert, if no one's seen the 1927 movie or whatever it is, at the end of his life, he said one word. It said Rosebud. And the entire movie, we're trying to figure out what Rosebud is, and they're investigating and people are trying to find out what the hell does that mean with. He was such a big, grandiose, bigger than life character, but he said Rosebud. And at the end of the day, it was about his sled. His sled was called Roseblood that his parents gave him. So I'm illustrating what you just said that like all this huge thing, but for you it's Uncle Bob. For him it was Rosebud. So something really small is what we cared about as a soul, and that's what we stay connected to regardless, at the end of our life, it's Rosebud.
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Jennifer Rose
In many ways, it matters. It's beautiful. Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Jennifer Rose
It is. It is. It's so beautiful, so magical and. Yeah, so. So even if. If there's other versions of us like this versions is still here, it still has presence. It still matters. It matters to us. It's love.
- [36:11]
Alex Ferrari
That's what I always tell people in regards to all of this work into intuition, trans, mediumship, channeling, all of it. I go, look, is it. What are they saying? What is the message?
- [36:22]
Jennifer Rose
Exactly?
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Alex Ferrari
I don't care how they do it. They can sing and dance, have a clown nose on. On and have, you know, shoes that squeak.
- [36:29]
Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
What is the message that is coming through? And is it hitting you? Is it helpful?
- [36:35]
Jennifer Rose
How does it make you feel? Yeah, that's it. Positive, uplifting. Does it open your heart? Do you feel the expansive shift in the atmosphere?
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Alex Ferrari
Right.
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Jennifer Rose
That's how you know.
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Alex Ferrari
So, Jennifer, let me ask you this. Why do you do this work? Why do you do this work? What is the driving force behind do? Because it's not easy work. And even in today's world, which is a lot more acceptable to have these kind of conversations in public.
- [37:00]
Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
And not in the back of an old book, not in the back of a bookstore. It's still difficult work to do and you still have a lot of barriers and things like that, generally speaking, that psychics and mediums go through. Why do you do the work?
- [37:14]
Jennifer Rose
That's a great question. Well, I do love it. I love all aspects of it. And it's. It's not what I do, though. It's. It literally is intertwined with who I am and what I am. Like, it's. It's the I and the me at the same time. And so I'm. It's like I'm riding a wave and I know I'm writing it and it's okay and I like it. And you know, when I connect in, you know, a mediumistic way especially. I feel so beautiful because the love is so pure. You know, the angelic realms as well too. I just, it's hard to explain, but. And it's very fulfilling to know you've helped people and that you've changed them in some way in a positive way. You know, to see the look in their eyes when the healing is take place or they brighten up because they've gotten to make that connection or you've given them the proof that they needed to know their person was okay. And not just okay, but that this is real. Like, like the afterlife is real. And what that does for them, it ignites something in them as well too, which is really cool. A lot of people get readings and then fast forward, they decide they want to start development because they want to build their own connection and it just goes on and on and on. So it is very hard work. I work very hard. I've been through lots of transformation, which is very difficult, very painful to go through. And there, there's definitely been hard days. There's always times where mediums want to quit and give up, but that's usually when you're about to level up, when that happens too. But usually once you've kind of opened that door and walked in, you don't get to go back. It just doesn't work that way. You don't have that kind of free will. So it just, you know, it's like you're working for the divine now, kind of put it that way. Just
- [39:15]
Alex Ferrari
so it's a tough boss to quit from.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, exactly, exactly too. So I'm fortunate that, you know, being in California, it's pretty open minded here. And so if I tell a random person what I do, I don't get a lot of negativity from people and I'm intuitive, so I can kind of know okay, not okay, you know, so that helps me.
- [39:39]
Alex Ferrari
You feel it out. You feel it out. Exactly.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, exactly.
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Alex Ferrari
What has spirit taught you about love that you didn't know before?
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Jennifer Rose
What a funny question. I, I say that because you're, you're tuned in right now, so. And that's one of the reasons why you're asking that question is when, when I first started my development. So we're, we're going back like 10 years. I remember I was walking my dogs and I just gotten around the corner and I, I had this, you know, thought come into me, this questioning come into me. And I was like, spirit world, show me more about love. Like, I know this and this about love. I knew it was a loving person, and I love my fame, my friends and so forth, but I'm like. And I got this image of a diamond, and all the multifaceted aspects of love are like, as diamond. Just so many kinds to learn about. And I realize now that it wasn't necessarily the me questioning it as much as it was the higher self kind of putting that thought into my awareness of what was about to happen, what we were going to do. And so I talk about love all the time, and my friends call me the queen of love, so they just know me that way. And so it's kind of become my reputation, I guess. And so the answer would just be so much more. And it's endless, too. So much of our experiences, Alex, that we can't understand somehow all find their way in this interconnected web of questions of why and who and what and how. They all find their way back to love somehow. So we can look at things and go, that was. That was so bad or that was so hard. And I. And I get it, and I probably would agree with them. But if we start to unravel the story, we see connections that were made through this tragedy or through this hard time that we went through, and how love found a way to show up in all of these little places. You just. If you notice them, you go, oh, it was there the whole time. And how did it change you? Do you know more love now? Do you feel more love now? Do you appreciate more? Do you have more gratitude? Do you see people on a deeper level than you did before? So there's. There's so much more to it. It's. It's hard to put into words, but that's kind of been part of my. I guess that was part of my story that was meant to be told, you know, so my. My astrology chart is all about love, too.
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Alex Ferrari
So you're the queen of love. I mean, you're the queen of love.
- [42:22]
Jennifer Rose
Yes, I'm the queen of love. And. But. But I'm also aware there's so much more. And that scares me a little bit. The little me gets a little scared because I'm like, I had
- [42:35]
Alex Ferrari
girl, you know. Oh, I know that feeling. And I'm like, listen, listen, can you just give me a minute before you
- [42:43]
Jennifer Rose
throw me back in? Exactly.
- [42:50]
Alex Ferrari
So with. With that in mind, then, a question I get asked all the time, why do good things happen? Why do bad things happen to good people? Is a big question that so many. And I'm sure that is Something in your line of work that people ask, ask like, I'm a good person. I'm this and that. Why did this happen? Why did this person die? Why did all of these kind of things? What, what answer do you have for them?
- [43:11]
Jennifer Rose
I know this question very well, and I've had, I've had many, especially in the earlier days, arguments with spirit world, like, why did you do that? Why did you do that? Did you do that? And I would, I would even be like, okay, so somebody passes away in a remote area and no one ever finds them or knows what happened to them. Like, how do you, how do you explain that? Right? And, and the answer I get is, well, you're thinking about them right now. You're caring about them right now. You're questioning about them right now. Well, look, what, you know, you're loving them right now by even asking the question, okay,
- [43:53]
Alex Ferrari
yada, yada, yada, fine.
- [43:55]
Jennifer Rose
It was. They were right. You know, they were right too. I don't have all the answers. There are things that I see happening that are very, very troublesome to me. And that's not wrong because in the feeling of the troublesome in the. That's. That's really violent. What's happening over there, that's really concerning. What's happening in that is a desire to improve it, it, to make it better in some way. So even in the, even in the questioning, even in the disagreeing, it shows that your heart is saying, can't we do better? And so that's why I say we can accept that there is a mystery. We live in a realm of duality. We don't have all the answers. We can accept that we learn a lot from our experiences, even the ones that cause suffering. And suffering has a place. It does teach us things. Why Source, Creator, God designed it this way. I don't know that. But you know, through the pressure, you know, through the suffering, you come out different. You come out forever changed and transformed and usually have greater awareness as well, too. And so there, there can be gifts in the suffering. And sometimes the lesson in it is, can you find the gift in it? Can you find love where it's seemingly absent? You know, can you find grace in a place that looks very unholy and evil? Even, you know, that takes a lot of pulling out of you, your own soul, and tuning into the power that exists of the Divine too. And you can say we can do better because we can do better drives evolution. It drives ascension. It's saying the frequency of oneness. I, I can touch It. I can taste it. I can feel it. I can sense it. And we can move closer to that. We can do better. So it's okay to want to change it. It's okay to want improvement movement. Okay to have an opinion about it.
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Alex Ferrari
I'm noticing that when you're speaking, a lot of times you're looking up into the left or up into the right. Are you. Are you connecting with spirit as you're doing that? And they're kind of telling you what to say in many ways or suggesting.
- [46:28]
Jennifer Rose
So it's not that they're suggesting. It just flows through me. So, yeah, so when I do that a lot, that. That's letting you know that I'm. I'm being inspired. I'm channeling. Yeah.
- [46:38]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah.
- [46:39]
Jennifer Rose
But it just happens. I'm not. I'm not like, oh, I'm going to start channeling for Alex. It's just. It just happens also.
- [46:46]
Alex Ferrari
So when you go into. So when you go into a channeling state, you're constantly, like, turned on. Like, I know a lot of channels like that. They're just like, hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they just, like their spirit guides or whoever, they're channeling just starts. You ask a question, and they wait for a second. This is what. And they do. They. They look up to the left. They look up to the right. It's really interesting. I've seen that happen before. But they tell me they're always connected as opposed to other channels. I know who, like, hold on, I got to. I have to get into. And then there. And then someone comes through. So you're the one that's always, always connected.
- [47:20]
Jennifer Rose
So, yeah, I wasn't asking for it. It just happens for me. That's. That's how it is for me now when I'm working mediumistically, I may. I may say, wait a minute, Let me. You know, let me lock in. Let me see what I can get for you to see if they'll answer that question. And if I'm working in a deeper trance, then I. And I'm really just going out. My eyes are going to be closed, and I'm. I'm trying to move my awareness way out, way into the back so that another awareness can come in and kind of merge with my essence, too. But it all. It's all good. It's just different ways of doing the same thing. I just don't put, like, one's better than the other, you know, it's just. It's all different ways of working. Working yeah.
- [48:05]
Alex Ferrari
Which is the one you prefer?
- [48:06]
Jennifer Rose
I don't really have a preference, so. But I'm very used to doing, working this way, so I love talking about these things, but I am aware that, like, the what's coming through me, that I am connected at the same time. And so before we even got on this, I was, I was just sitting for a few minutes and I was like, there's a lot of spirit in the room. So I knew, I knew, like, okay, it's going to be fine. I'm not alone.
- [48:34]
Alex Ferrari
So why do you. So why do you think there was a lot of spirit in the room? Is that spirits that because you were speaking to me or is because of this, the show, or because if they're just there for you? I'm just curious.
- [48:45]
Jennifer Rose
Yeah, well, I wanted to just take a few minutes just to kind of get into a stillness a little bit because, you know, you're, you're getting ready, you're doing this, taking care of your dogs, all this kind of stuff. Right. And it's. When it's getting a few minutes and so in, in that few minutes of stillness, then you're, you don't have any distractions. Right. So then I'm very aware, like, oh, there's the, the energy in my space right now is, is palpably full. I'll say it's very full now. There's always energy in this space, but it's extra full. Right. So. Which makes me happy.
- [49:21]
Alex Ferrari
Good. So did Uncle Bob. Did Uncle Bob show up last night and say, hey, I got, I got a message for Alex?
- [49:26]
Jennifer Rose
No, there is no Uncle Bob.
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Alex Ferrari
There is no Uncle Bob. So there's.
- [49:34]
Jennifer Rose
There is no Uncle Bob. Somebody's got an Uncle Bob somewhere. There's probably many of them.
- [49:38]
Alex Ferrari
There's a few Uncle Bobs in the world. I'm sure, I'm sure. Now in the time that you've been doing this work, you know, we kind of kid it. You joked a little bit about like, yeah, it's a lot more acceptable now to have these conversations. I'm sure when you started, it wasn't as is. Easy again, if you were in California that whole time, you probably were in the place.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. Even here in Austin, you know, it's in Austin's also where all the weirdos hang out. So. And artists and stuff. So everyone's a little bit more accepting here than the rest of the state. But I'm, I've realized just in the short time I've been doing this work, about five years now, how much people are awakening and a lot of the concepts and topics that we're talking about are becoming mainstream. Where the term channeling is now in the Lexa. Yeah, people are like always using the word channeling. Intuitive people are fascinated with mediums and ghost hunters and all that kind of stuff that happens. But all that was. It started basically in the late 80s, I would say, and then the 90s where a lot of this stuff, the Sylvia Browns, the John Edwards, those people kind of popularized and John James, James Van Prague and these kind of people popularized. Missed it. Why do you think so many souls are awakening now versus the last thousand years that we've been hanging around the planet? You know, in the Middle Ages, nobody was going, you know, love. It was the generally who were not doing that back then.
- [52:37]
Jennifer Rose
Yeah. So it's very interesting because there was this explosion in me in mediumship in the mid mid 1800s for about, for about 100 years. And that was because of World War I and World War II. And it started out to be more physical mediumship. So people were going to seances and playing with spirit boards and things like that. Before movies Came around and made it all scary and all of that. It's just not. It's just not scary. It's just. But then when the war happened, then there was a shift into mental mediumship, and then that became the main focus because the need was to communicate loved ones. And so those mediums were working 24,7. I don't know how they did it. Under a lot of scrutiny, you know, especially over in. In Europe, too. You know, there was one medium that was even put in jail under the Witchcraft act, which I think has changed now, right. That, like, that actually happened. And then there was this quieting period, 50s, 60s, 70s. And then the New Age movement kind of came up and. And so then this sort of explosion of mediums that's happened in the last, like, 10 to 20 years. It's pretty fascinating, too, but it definitely is pointing to this, like, acceleration, the sort of, like, bigger awakening that's happening, people coming more online. It's a good thing. And we see there is a lot of conflict right now, too. So I do believe, especially if you look at things astrologically, it kind of matches up to where we are. The Age of Aquarius. Now. We've got this Uranus in Gemini for seven years. I'm not an astrologer, but I have astrologer friends. And so things are just getting very fast. Very electric, very full speed ahead, very in tune and online. And so with this sort of ascension process that we're having, there is a need for a lot of souls to be able to amplify the energy. So if the goal is now to lift us out of this density, at least not as dense as we were, into a higher frequency, where it's. We're not seeing quite as much of the destruction and the darkness, so to speak, that we are now, then there is a need for people to be able to hold the power, amplify the light. Light as I've been understanding it, too. So that means the mediums, the healers, the twin flames, the even athletes, because they can hold a lot of energy and power. So they may be there unconsciously being part of this process too. And it's like they're amplifying the light or amplifying the grid, the Earth grid, so to speak. This is all energetic and metaphysical and fun stuff too, but that's helping the process as well, too. But it's fun, it's fascinating, it's beautiful. I really want to see positive change. I really want to see it. My heart hurts to see things that are happening in the World. And I understand that there are reasons beyond our comprehension. I really want to see it in my lifetime. I want to see great expansion.
- [55:54]
Alex Ferrari
So with. I mean, obviously, I don't know if you've done this or not, but have you tuned in even just for yourself, out of curiosity of like, what's gonna happen at the end of the year? What's gonna happen in the next two to three years? You know, I've heard of a certain date that a lot of things will shift. I hear that. My personal understanding is that we are going through. It just seems like since. I mean, since 2012, things have been slowly building up.
- [56:20]
Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
- [56:21]
Alex Ferrari
But man 20, the second hit 2020, all hell broke loose. And every year it's been more insane and more insane and more insane as we keep. I don't know where we're going, but we're going into this place that I hear that there's going to be a turning point where like, okay, now we've gotten to a point where we can't take this anymore. We have to go the other way. What's your understanding of where we're going?
- [56:43]
Jennifer Rose
2030 seems to be a big deal. A lot of people are talking about 2030, so. Which is, you know, just like three and a half more years away. And we, we really do.
- [56:55]
Alex Ferrari
And.
- [56:55]
Jennifer Rose
But we're already seeing a big breakdown in things and systems. And a lot of people are waking up and seeing the world very differently than they did before, which is causing, I would say, a second existential crisis like we had during COVID That was a big existential crisis on a mass level. And now we're having it again because people didn't know it was that bad. They did.
- [57:16]
Alex Ferrari
They.
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Jennifer Rose
They thought they were, you know, crazy people, things like that. They didn't know that. I didn't even, to be honest with you. But what I have. So I'm going to give you the positive. The positive news, what I've gotten is that once this, you know, what we might call the Dark Ages are. Have had their time. What follows the Dark Ages? A Renaissance. So we're. We're moving into a renaissance. What does that look like? I'm getting chills all over. And so remember, we're in the age of Aquarius. Art, music, dance, beauty, creation. So you destroy a tower, you build it up. Bigger, better, more beautiful too. And so I think that's one thing that people can focus on is definitely keep an eye on what's happening. Because if we don't look at the, the, the destruction and we ignore doesn't get a chance to transform. You have to look at it. You have to put illumination and light onto it and be aware of it. And that's hard to do. We don't want to look at bad, scary things, right. So we have to do that, but also hold the light of the future, which is we're moving into a beautiful, new, expansive state of creation. Right. And so I think anything that people can do that is creative is going to be really positive too. So music, cooking, basket weaving, I don't care what it is, if it's creative, that's. You're putting. You're moving into the future.
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Alex Ferrari
You're.
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Jennifer Rose
You're feeding a positive flow future of the Renaissance too. And then keep. Keep working on yourself. Because you change the world when you change yourself. So when you. When you integrate with your soul, your higher self, whatever you want to call it, and do that, that inner work and, you know, heal your patterns, integrate your parts, let go of trauma, those kinds of things like that, you make a big impact in the whole because it's like the butterfly effect too. And you amplify your own power. You amplify your own light so you have more to give, more love to give, more light to give to. So that's really important, and that's more doable. You look at the world and go, I can't. What? What, so where do I start?
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Alex Ferrari
Where do I start?
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Jennifer Rose
You start with you. You. You start with you every day, do a little something that helps you to grow and mature. And some people, they. They don't want to do that. Scary. It's scary to look inside, but we have to. We all have to. We all have to do our part. Makes a big difference. It really does. Would you.
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Alex Ferrari
Do you believe that a lot of the turmoil and chaos that is happening in the world is because people are not willing to look themselves in the mirror and. And do the work themselves. And I'm talking about all leaders around the world. Companies, religion, medical, politics, all of them have not really sat with themselves and
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Jennifer Rose
exactly the tough questions.
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Alex Ferrari
Do you agree?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah. So from kind of a union, psychological perspective, it's. It's definitely like a reflection. You know, the outside is kind of a reflection of the inside too, of this, you know, fragmented psychosis. Right. And it has to become whole again. Right. And so then what people are doing, instead of behaving from a space of wholeness, which is their true self, which, which is light, which is love, then there's all of these sort of protective mechanisms that come out, and then Cause destruction and manipulation and things like that too. You see it in relationships, you see it in people's self talk, and you see it on a global level as well. So. So from that, from a psychological perspective, I see a lot of children in adult bodies with way too much power. Because everything they're doing, you know, they've got power, they've got knowledge or intellect perhaps, but the way that they're using it is because they're not an integrated being or they would not behave that way. There's the playground where everybody's acting like children and they're unconscious of their behaviors to a certain extent. And then there's this other place where people know who they are and they behave accordingly with more love and compassion and understanding of themselves and others. And so the more we get in this space, the more people come over here, that starts to take over. You get kind of a critical mass. So, yeah, when it's very concerning, when you've got children and adult bodies running the show, that's a little bit scary.
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Alex Ferrari
Around the world, around the world, everywhere.
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Jennifer Rose
That is why. Yeah, so that's why what we can do for ourselves does make a difference. And that. That's the most amount of freedom and autonomy and sovereignty you're going to feel is from the inner work. It's not from forcing other people to do it how you want them to do it. It's just, just and, you know, having the courage to look inside, deal with yourself, grow yourself, mature yourself, and then your, your reality around you will start to change. But you're giving a gift to humanity as well
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Alex Ferrari
as a. As a collective. Are we basically marrying the macro journey of humanity's consciousness is a mirror of the individual journey? Because I don't know about you, but things have to be really bad in, in the life, especially early on in life, that things get so bad that you are forced to leave the job, you're forced to release the rest because you become so unbearable that you're like, I have to do something. Because I didn't listen to the 45 other times that they were trying to whisper, hey, man, move, move. Get out, get out. Okay, you don't.
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Ryan Seacrest
All right.
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Alex Ferrari
Then boom. And it just keeps. Is that what's happening to humanity right now as well? We're going through the.
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Ryan Seacrest
That.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's just, it's sometimes that's what it takes so much pressure before you finally have this awareness that go, well, I haven't been able to change any of this stuff around me or it Keeps repeating over and over and over again. I'm seeing these patterns. And then you realize the only thing you can do is change yourself. And that just, you have to come in, come to grips with that reality. But you can definitely see a reflection of that too, in sort of the, like you said, the macro and the micro too. And so, so I still have hope. I have a lot of hope.
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Alex Ferrari
Absolutely.
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Jennifer Rose
I really do. I think we can do something really good as a collective.
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Alex Ferrari
You know what I've been seeing too, and I'm noticing this shift in awareness in multiple industries, but one that I'm very passionate about is food, especially here in the West. It's atrocious what they do with our food system. It's absolutely atrocious. But what I'm noticing now is, is products coming out that say in the label, three ingredients, four ingredients. They're literally promoting, look, we have no more crap in our stuff. We have no red 40 or B5 or this and this thing that is known to cause cancer. Twenty years down the line, people are starting to be aware of that. And the industry is shifting because they're like, oh, oh, oh, ruh roh, the party's over, we gotta, we gotta shift. But I'm noticing that, have you noticed that as well, not only in food, but in other areas, religion and medical field and Hollywood, for God's sakes. What's going on there?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, well, that's a fun question because I'm really into that, you know, I'm into like nutrition and things like that too. And I, I truly believe that we have, we have to take care of our physical. So I know sometimes in the spiritual land, people look at their body like it's in, it's impeding where they want to be or who they want to be. Like, I just want to go home. I don't want to be in this suit kind of thing too. And it's like, but your body is conscious as long as you're attached to it, right? Your cells are very intelligent, like little computer systems, right? And so if we're not taking care of it, we're going to have a really hard time being happy. Because your hormones and your nutrients and all of that affect your mood. They affect your brain and things like that too. And so it is very concerning. Now California can be more health conscious, especially along the coast. So that makes me very happy. So there's more availability of healthy food. I go to a new grocery store and I'm just like, oh my God. Sometimes when I look at the boxes and the bottles and the bags because I know there's nothing good in it for anybody in there and there's a lot of it. And I'm just like, whew. But like, I'm into vitamins and peptides and biohacking and all of this stuff, but I'm happy that there is a container of that now that's being explored by people, that there's other ways of living a better life. But living a better life also includes loving yourself enough to try to take better care of your health the best that you can. But your mood is going to be really affected by what you're eating, what you're taking, how well you're sleeping, how well you're managing stress. So that matters too. It's very mind, body, spirit approach too. So. But you're right, there's some change in awareness. That's a good thing.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. It is a good thing. There is much more awareness about things and things that we might have not been aware of before. We're being forced to be aware of them, whether it be political, whether it be medical, whether it be our food system, whether it be our religion, even. A lot of cracks have been popping up over the last 20 or 30 years in, in organized religions as well. Where do you see all of these systems that are, I mean, you would, you mentioned her. These systems are crashing down and we, we're literally watching them. We're seeing companies go down, we're seeing, yeah, you know, industries shift dramatically. Where do you see all of this going and how much longer do we got to Be on this roller coaster.
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Jennifer Rose
Coaster. That's a good. That's a good question. You know, I, again, I really do feel like we will move into a renaissance. It's just there's sort of a question mark of how long it's going to take and, and that might be. And that might be up to us too. But right now, like things are moving pretty quickly. I don't know if people can handle much faster energy than we're already experiencing. To, to a certain extent, life is always going to be ups and downs and crazy twists and turns and when's it going end? And I'm like, it doesn't always that life is just that way. You want it. You want to get to this like, point where it's like all peace and calm all the time. You might get bored with it. We came here to tell stories and create and have all of this diversity and contrast, if you want to say too. But I do believe that things you can actually have more freedom to manifest in your life if you've done a lot of inner work. And that's where the magic really will really start to happen. So we're. It's about living. It's about truly living, not just existing, but living fully and consciously with effort, trying to make this time that you have here the best it can be. It's a lot of work because you have to take care of your mind, you have to take care of your body, and you have to be pay attention to your soul, your spirit. So it's a lot of work too, but it is worth doing. If you're like, I really just want to be happy with. Well, here you go. Step one, where are you going to? Where you going to start? You know, if.
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Alex Ferrari
So let me ask you, if someone is feeling disconnected from spirit for whatever reason, what advice do you have for them where they should. Where should they begin to start to try to connect the spirit again and that spirit like to you even their own spirit, like just spirit in general. General.
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Jennifer Rose
The first answer is we're always connected to spirit. It's just some people can't perceive it, they can't feel it and experience it for themselves. But the disconnection in itself is an illusion. So that's, that's the sort of the metaphysical answer. So even when somebody has been, you know, had in a spiritual awakening, but now they're in the dark night of the soul, you know, they're having a psychic experience of extreme loneliness and disconnection, including from spirit, including from God. Like they feel totally isolated but that's not what's really happening. It's illusion, right? And then once you. And then once you're done with that psychic experience, you move into complete connection where, you know, like I said, little flower petals, the most beautiful thing you ever saw, and you feel just, you know. So we were experiencing different ends of the spectrum of connection and disconnection in our human spiritual reality. Reality. Now, to answer your question, what can somebody do? Start by taking five minutes to sit quietly and just sort of notice your thoughts, notice the energy, notice the space. Just to kind of find out where your awareness is. Are you in the future? Are you in the past? And that's not wrong. It's just where. Where are you? With no wrong or right, where are you? When are you you? And then just kind of bring it back into the now. Sometimes even just finding a focal point in your body. Like, I might try to put all my awareness into this space in my heart and to where I'm not actually having thinking happening. Right. You might only be able to do for five seconds, but it's. That's the start. So then you started to be able to slowly become aware of the thoughts. Right. So you have to kind of practice with your mind a little bit.
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Ryan Seacrest
Bit.
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Jennifer Rose
We, a lot of us psychics and mediums sit in the power, so we learn to kind of find a focal point of light. We expand it really big and bright. That opens up our awareness, so that is easy for spirit to kind of touch the energy or touch the power. And we are more receptive to it. So I highly recommend people learn how to sit in the power. And just imagine you've got this little inner light and it gets bigger and bigger, bigger till you're, you know, filling up the room, even blending into the natural world outside and just become this big light, you know, that you're immersed in too. And start with five minutes. Do it consistently. It works really, really well. Go out and go out in nature. Hear the birds, you know, see the colors, feel the wind on your face. They're simple, easy things to do, but they actually do work really well.
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Alex Ferrari
If. If someone listening has just lost somebody and they are afraid of, oh, God, what happened to Uncle Bob, what happened to Grandma, man and I. What would you say to them? I'm sure you've had that conversation.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, yeah, I. Well, I would explain to them if, you know, if obviously if I'm a medium, if I'm working mediumistically, you know, and I could kind with their loved one and give them some evidence of who they were. So that they were recognizing them and then be able to give like a healing message. That would work really well too. But I would explain to them, you know, from, from my lens that life is continuous. It's just a different, a different experience. So it's a. It's a less physical or non physical experience. Uncle Bob just isn't in this body anymore. Uncle Bob is everywhere. And with you all the time, you never lose that connection. It doesn't go away. It's. You know, but he's everywhere. That's the truth too, right?
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Alex Ferrari
He is everywhere and he is nowhere.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
He is all, but yet none. It's like it's. Yeah, it's very Bruce. Very Bruce Lee. Very Bruce Lee.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah. It's. It's 111 right now as we, as we say that to too. But in. When you hold on to the love like that love that that person has, you know, that's the bridge. So just never, never lose the love. Never lose the, the connection. But like I said, the link in the chain continues. The link doesn't just recycle into a new link. It continues. And then the links just keep growing and growing. The chain just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. It's expansion. It's infinite. It. It's endless. It's unlimited.
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Alex Ferrari
You mentioned 111, which I, I understand is angel numbers. Other people call it like alignment or other things like that. Yeah, it happens to me every day, four to five times a day. I don't look for the numbers. I get 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5. I get all of these numbers and the weirdest, weirdest places. And it's been happening more, more lately. What is that? Your understanding of what that is and what is spirit trying to tell me? I know each number has a specific energy or specific tag, but just curious from your point of view, if you could tell me what I'm. Why is it happening to me? And then obviously that will help other people.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, yeah, exactly too. And I, I think, you know, the numbers were, were more focused on like how a numerologist would describe them. That was. That's how it's mostly been. It kind of the angel numbers came around sort of later, later in the story too. But it does make it fun too. So I think there were some practitioners that kind of maybe changed it to angel numbers, but it doesn't really matter. All that matters is that you're noticing the synchronicity. My awareness said look at the clock. I looked at it 1:11. While we were talking about that. So while we were having that conversation, that gives us some validation of what we're speaking of, that the number showed up. I agree with you. Less important than what it means is that it happened. Right? And so that means you're aware of synchronicity. You're aware that there's more than the physical realm, and you're now part of it, and you're being reminded of it consistently. And that's magical, too. So it's like I always like to say, the sign itself is a little mirror miracle. What it means, great, but. Or who gave it to you, great, but the fact that it happened. I just don't want to forget that part because we forget that it happened. You know, we don't pay attention to the fact that it happened. And then we go, what does it mean? What does it mean? Wait, it just happened, though. It happened. Like, let's just keep that little spark first, and then we'll worry about that. Now, let's say you're thinking about Uncle Bob, and then you notice the clock is his version birthday. There's a good chance that was Uncle Bob that was making that happen.
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Alex Ferrari
Uncle Bob is busy boy. He's.
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah, I know.
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Ryan Seacrest
All right.
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Jennifer Rose
We love this Uncle Bob. Now, let's say you're. Let's say you're in. You're having a hard day or something like that. And then you notice some. A license plate that says, you know, love, or something like that. Or you notice the numbers. It's. It's kind of like, we're here, you're okay. Okay. Like, we're here. You're not alone. You know, everything's going to be okay. So that's really nice as well, too, when those things happen.
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Alex Ferrari
Is it sim. Is it similar when you're in a car and you're thinking about something and a song lyric shows up and you're like, that's happened to me. Like, I've been in. I've been. A question, a question, a question. I get in there like, everything's gonna be all right. I'm like, son of a. I know, right?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
Is that crazy?
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Jennifer Rose
Yeah. Yeah. And it can be spirit world, but it can also be your own higher self. And doing that for you, too. I don't like to take away the power of our own higher self. Like, that's your first guide, your ultimate guide is your higher self. Or the big G up there. Right. Too. But here's what's fun is. Now, let's see. Let's say you're on the car and you see that license. You're in your car and you see that license plate. Right at that time, everything had to go right in your day. Synchronized to get you to that synchronicity. Right? I was just having this conversation yesterday. This is so super cool. So that means you couldn't find your keys or you forgot something, had to go back in. You know, you stubbed your toe, you're like, ah, or whatever happened, right. But you ended up in the car at the right. In the right place at the right time. So that lets you know you're part of something really big and magical. Nicole. Now, on top of that, the other car that had that license plate, that person's day had to be perfectly synchronized to get on the road at that time for you. That's big. Right now, all the other cars, they couldn't get in the way either. So like, that had. That had to pay attention to. So think about how much intelligence it takes to make that happen for that one event. All for you. It's just.
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Alex Ferrari
Yeah, it's just that one little thing for that one person. There's 8.2 billion people on the planet all for you.
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Jennifer Rose
That's love.
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Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. So. So, Jennifer, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?
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Jennifer Rose
My website is medium jenniferrose.com and I'm over on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube as well. So you can find me there. There. Awesome.
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Alex Ferrari
And do you have any final messages for the audience?
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Jennifer Rose
Thank you.
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Alex Ferrari
The.
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Jennifer Rose
The one thing that I did feel like, wanted to be spoken of a little bit too is that there is a. There's a second awakening. So for people who've already been on this road for a while to. It's. It's so wonderful to get connected to these other realms in the other and different forms of spirit and things like that, and to the point where we want to stay there all the time, you know, And. And because human life just seems so boring and meaningless or something too, or maybe even hard. But that can be a form of escape too, or avoidance too. But there is a second awakening that happens where finally you make peace with that. You make peace that you got to go on being human and then. But you decide to make it the best that you can for yourself and for each other. Other. So the second awakening is like really embracing humanity and wanting to make a difference in it. You know, Even though the spirit world is so fun place to. To play around in, it is. It's quite a, quite a spiritual playground too. But then really putting your presence and your energy and your focus here too, having a balance, because it matters. We all matter. Our human parts matter too. And at the end of the day, if every human being felt like they mattered and felt safe, the world would be completely different than it is right now. So sometimes you got to start there too. And in these kind of busy, crazy times, the other thing that's been coming through is just keep going, Just, just keep going. Things are going to happen, happen. You're going to lose something, you're going to stab your toe, something's going to happen, it's going to go wrong. A lot of things are also going to go right. You just keep going. Try not to get too bogged down by it. Just keep going. It all comes around in the end. Everything finds a way of working itself out and just keep moving forward.
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Alex Ferrari
Jennifer, it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you.
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Jennifer Rose
You're so cute.
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Alex Ferrari
I love your energy.
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Jennifer Rose
Thank you.
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Alex Ferrari
Thank you for helping awaken the planet, my dear.
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Jennifer Rose
Appreciate you doing my part. Thank you, Alex. Really appreciate this time with you.
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Alex Ferrari
Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode@nextlevelsoul.com 711 and if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul Team tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV. Until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.
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