Kryon Speaks: Humanity's Path Forward with Lee Carroll and Monika Muranyi

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Kryon Speaks: Humanity's Path Forward with Lee Carroll and Monika Muranyi"

Podcast: Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari
Date: April 25, 2026
Guests: Lee Carroll, Monika Muranyi, (channeling Kryon)
Host: Alex Ferrari

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the evolving consciousness of humanity and our collective path forward, featuring Lee Carroll (the original channel for Kryon) and spiritual author Monika Muranyi. The dialogue explores humanity’s current transitional moment, spiritual empowerment, the rise of a new generation of "Indigos," and Kryon's latest teachings for living in turbulent times. Lee channels Kryon for an in-depth Q&A, offering cosmic insights on the purpose behind chaos, how to navigate fear, and practical steps to spiritual awakening.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Who is Kryon? (04:47–05:29)

• Kryon Explained: Kryon is described as an "angelic energy" or compassionate group entity from the other side of the veil, never having been human. Kryon's purpose is to help guide humanity through its current shift in consciousness.
  • Quote (Lee Carroll, 04:55): "What would you say an angel was? That's how it feels… It's always felt like angelic energy to me… It's always a group because angelic energy is a group."

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2. Humanity’s Current Crisis & Paradigm Shift (05:39–09:46)

• The Marker We've Passed: Kryon predicted that around 2026, humanity would emerge from a long period of darkness, now stepping into unprecedented energy. This phase is characterized by the surfacing and closure of unresolved global and personal issues.

• Mainstream Perception: Most people feel focused on negative news and turmoil, but Kryon suggests a major positive shift is occurring that's hard to see amid the noise.

  • Quote (Lee Carroll, 05:39): “We have passed a marker that is incredibly important to us. We're actually coming out of the dark... It's been very well documented that there was going to be trouble in the year 2000s… now we're starting to climb out of it.”

• Advice on Media: To avoid negativity, Carroll recommends reading news from journalists instead of watching TV to get a more accurate, less sensationalized perspective.

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3. The Biggest Illusions & The Victim Mentality (09:46–12:49)

• End of the Victim Narrative: Humanity's greatest illusion is the belief that “we’re going to hell in a handbasket.” Mainstream media sells fear to keep viewers engaged and purchasing products.

  • Quote (Lee Carroll, 08:35): “To me, it’s the same one… that we’re going to hell in a handbasket… and it’s not true.”

• Co-Creator Awareness: Muranyi emphasizes we are not victims; we are powerful co-creators, and self-realization is key to overcoming illusion and fear.

  • Quote (Monika Muranyi, 09:57): “What’s not going to work anymore is trying to feed the program of fear. Because when you become self-realized, you are aware that we’re not here by accident, we’re here on purpose… we are powerful co-creators.”

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4. Indigo Children & the New Generation of Change-Makers (11:20–12:49; 17:58–28:35)

• Who Are the Indigos?: Indigos are children born with unique consciousness to “bust systems” and expose dysfunction in society. Their presence marks a new evolutionary step and is visible in the current wave of young adults drawn to esoteric and spiritual topics.
  • Quote (Monika Muranyi, 09:57): "They could look around and see dysfunction and they would react to that...and create from that place where kindness matters."
  • Quote (Lee Carroll, 26:35): “You have young people doing podcasts to millions of other young people on esoteric things… This is the, I would say, the reason they’re here... That is a change in human nature, my friend…”

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5. The Cyclic Nature of War and the "New Track" (17:58–24:24)

• Breaking Historical Cycles: Humanity has endlessly repeated cycles of conflict. Kryon says that now, for the first time ever—even compared to advanced ancient civilizations—humanity is switching tracks.

  • Metaphor (Lee Carroll, 18:27): “If you look at human consciousness… it never, ever changed… a railroad track, where the train is in a circle… Now, something has happened, a siding appears… and your train goes to another track. This is what has happened.”

• Hopi Prophecy & The "Snowball" Metaphor: Ancient prophecies anticipated this potential; now, the “snowball of peace” is rolling downhill, signaling momentum toward global awakening and new forms of peace.

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6. Navigating Fear and the "Doom Bias" (29:20–36:46)

• Different Faces of Fear: Kryon distinguishes between survival-based fear and self-generated fear (projecting negative “what if” scenarios), as well as ancestral/past-life fear.
• Overcoming Fear: The antidote to fear is “biased positive expectation” and gratitude, which shifts consciousness toward benevolence and opportunity.
  • Quote (Monika Muranyi, 29:20): "The way that Kryon says we can move through that is to bias ourselves with positive expectation... the easiest way... is the state of gratitude."
• Doom Bias: Having experienced repeated trauma and war, humanity is conditioned to expect the worst; Kryon insists this pattern can be broken through conscious affirmation.

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7. Channeling Kryon: Answers from the Other Side (46:10–77:09)

Theme: Awakening & Collective Evolution

• Fear of the Future and Transformation (50:30–54:21)

  • Main collective fear is the “doom bias”—the unresolved fear of self-destruction (nuclear war, apocalypse) shaped by media and culture.
  • Kryon refutes this, suggesting we are actually transitioning to higher consciousness, aided (not threatened) by new technologies like AI.
  • Quote (Lee Carroll as Kryon, 50:40): "The fear that humanity has right now... is the inevitable of what might happen... if you don't awaken. The doom bias is there... it's been drummed into you from the old energy..."

• AI as a Tool for Peace and Healing:

  • AI is part of humanity’s evolutionary toolkit, destined to help solve major problems (like curing cancer), not to dominate or harm us.

• How Timeline Shifts Occur (54:31–59:30):

  • The shift begins at the individual level, as more people awaken and become “coherent” together. This creates a field effect and accelerates global consciousness.
  • Kryon predicts young adults will soon lead international cooperation and unexpected alliances, focusing on solving real world challenges.
  • Quote (Kryon, 58:38): “You will see those in their 30s and 40s... In countries that have been enemies for decades... holding hands, coming together, looking you in the eye and saying, 'We gotta stop this.'"

• Purpose of Chaos in the World (59:39–63:45):

  • Chaos is “an old energy reflection” driven by the urge to finally settle longstanding unresolved issues. We’re witnessing the closing of old cycles to make way for the new.
  • Quote (Kryon, 62:45): "The chaos is an old energy reflection of the way to settle it... This is the year where these things start all over the planet."

• Essential Belief to Release (63:45–64:58):

  • Humanity must shed the belief in a punitive, condemning God, and in original sin or innate unworthiness.
  • Quote (Kryon, 63:49): “You must let go of the fact that you've been taught for centuries that God is a punishing God... the greatest lie that has ever been given to humanity... you are born magnificent.”

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Theme: Practical Spiritual Wisdom

• What to Do When Lost (65:04–70:02):

  • Kryon prescribes a morning gratitude practice to shift from despair to hope, emphasizing the tangible power of energy and gratitude to attract positive change.
  • Quote (Kryon, 65:04): "When you get up in the morning, swing your legs around and… for 30 seconds, think of all the things you’re grateful for… It’s hard to get into fear when you start with gratitude."

• What an Awakened Human Looks Like (70:02–72:05):

  • An awakened person becomes a “beacon of light”, walking through the world with mastery, unaffected by toxic people or situations, radiating compassion, embodying God within.
  • Quote (Kryon, 70:16): "They’re like beacons of light… Not a doctrine... but a personal awakening to who you are."

• For Those Fearful about the Future (72:05–74:34):

  • Most fear is delivered by culture and media, but humans are “designed for joy, for wisdom, for light.” Step away from fear-based messaging and embrace your power as a creator.
  • Quote (Kryon, 74:34): “If you’re in my partner’s culture ... you’re told you’re sick, you need this… you watch the news, you’re being told you’re on the brink of war… you are designed for joy, for wisdom, for light.”

• Final Message:

  • The ultimate teaching: "Find the God inside… Born magnificent, every one of you. Don’t buy into the lie that you came here by accident or that you have a creator who doesn’t like you."
  • Quote (Kryon, 77:09): "Born magnificent, every one of you… Find the God inside. And so it is."

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8. The Evolution of Channeling (80:01–83:52)

• Lee Carroll speaks candidly about his own path as a "reluctant channel" and how modern channeling is more immediate and integrated compared to earlier trance-based practices (e.g., Seth, Edgar Cayce). There’s a new accessibility and transparency for the current generation of channels.
  • Quote (Lee Carroll, 81:18): "I would call Lee the reluctant channel… That was not Lee. Relax. That’s what I tell anybody who wants to channel."

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9. Parting Wisdom from Lee, Monika, and Alex (87:12–90:22)

• Lee Carroll: "You're born magnificent, don't think you're here by accident."
• Monika Muranyi: Practice kindness, especially in disagreements, and offer feedback or opinions with compassion; kindness matters online and in life.
  • Quote (Monika Muranyi, 87:20): “My request is kindness… The comments that you write can have a big impact. So make them have kindness as the energy behind it.”
• Alex Ferrari: Reiterates the importance of disagreeing kindly; mastery is loving the unlovable, maintaining compassion even in harsh environments.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

“We are on the snowball of peace. But the timing is up to us.”
Monika Muranyi, 34:14

“You must let go of… the greatest lie that has ever been given to humanity about a wonderful, compassionate God. That you were born unworthy. When the truth is you are born magnificent.”
Kryon (Lee Carroll), 63:49

“Almost everything that you’re afraid of has been given to you to be afraid of.”
Kryon, 72:13

“Let the evidence [of Spirit] be in you. Try these things, perhaps. Go ahead, ask, Dear spirit, are you real? Show me… Find the God inside.”
Kryon, 77:09

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Who is Kryon? – 04:47
• Marker of Humanity’s Shift – 05:39
• Victim Mentality & Fear Programming – 09:46, 29:20
• Indigo Children and New Leadership – 17:58, 26:35
• Channeling Kryon Begins – 46:10
• What Humanity Fears the Most – 50:30
• AI’s True Purpose – 53:30
• How Timeline Shifts Work – 54:31
• Purpose of Chaos – 59:39
• Essential Belief to Let Go – 63:45
• Practical Step When Lost – 65:04
• What Awakening Looks Like – 70:02
• Advice for the Fearful – 72:13
• Final Message from Kryon – 77:09
• Evolution of Channeling – 80:01
• Final Words from Lee & Monika – 87:12

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Concluding Thoughts

This episode emphasizes that despite widespread fear and perceptions of chaos, humanity is transitioning into a unique era of awakened consciousness and healing — a spiritual "track" never before traversed by the species. The most urgent call is for us to recognize our innate magnificence, release collective doom biases, cultivate gratitude, and choose kindness in all our interactions. Kryon's timeless message: Find and live from the divinity within, for a new world begins—one heart at a time.

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Lee Carroll]

We are great. I've never been called a champion.

[Monica Morani]

I know, but I like.

[Lee Carroll]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

You've been on the show a few times, and it's always a joy talking to you guys and talking to Kyron, obviously, and a lot of the stuff that he was saying a few years ago. And I say he, for lack of a better word, but he. It's starting to come true in many ways.

[Lee Carroll]

Funny how that is. And by the way, you can call crying a he cry. There's. There is no gender on the other side of the veil, and yet we genderize everything because we're human. So, you know. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So, yeah, if it's he, I channel

[Lee Carroll]

it, you know, it's.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's. Yeah. It doesn't have the same connection.

[Lee Carroll]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

And Chiron. Cryon. Cryon, yeah, it's Cryon. I'm. And if I say Chiron, please forgive me because I come from the old world of television where chirons would be coming up on the screen. Those were the look. And I just. The Chirons always in my head. So please forgive me if I say it accidentally.

[Lee Carroll]

I come from the same place you do.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, exactly. So you know exactly what I'm talking about.

[Lee Carroll]

So if all is forgiven, given. Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

Appreciate it. Remind me. Cryon. I mean, run me. If what. Who Cryon is. Is it. It's a collective or is it an individual?

[Lee Carroll]

It's hard to describe. Except. What would you say an angel was? That's how it feels. Okay. This entity, unlike some other channelers, has never been a human. It's not a. A group of a certain kind. It's always felt like angelic energy to me. But you pegged it. It's always a group because angelic energy is a group. Even though we tend to make it singular, put skin and wings on it and give it a name, that's what we do. But true divine angelic energy always has a group feel to it. You get many hugs.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, fantastic. So my first question to you is, what is the most important thing humanity is not seeing clearly right now?

[Lee Carroll]

Humanity is not seeing clearly that we have passed a marker that is incredibly important to us. We're looking right now at what Kryon also predicted about this year 2026, number of attributes. But mainly it's not seeing the fact that we are actually coming out of the dark. And it's not something we made up. It's not something that's new age. Even the ancients gave a timing. I mean it's all part of what the Mayans talked about and their calend. It's there for us to see. It's a 36 year period. It's been very well documented that there was going to be trouble in the year 2000s. I mean even the church said so. And we have come to the actual end of that and now we're starting to climb out of it. And this is very much what Kryon talked about when he came in in 1989. So we're looking at something that is actually very positive and very exciting. And most of the, you know, that we talk to just regular folks think what's going on to the planet? We've got another war. Here we go again. Is it going to be nuclear? Is it kind of whatever and not really seeing truly what's happening. Let me just give you. There are many attributes of this year that Kryon started talking about actually in December and then started talking about this energy we're in is. It's a cliche to say we're in. New energy is an energy we have never experienced before. Now that's, that's profound. We're at a place we've never experienced before. One of the things that Kran speaks about that look forward to is the closure of things that have always simply hung out and not been closed. It's time to have a final dealing with things that are not settled. And then in February we got the war. And if you take a look at what it is about, that's what it's about. It's very, very clear. People are finding this too in their own lives. They're starting to see closure on things that haven't been closed before. Opening to new beginnings that haven't been there before. There's just a whole series of things that this energy is bringing forward and people are very consumed. I would think of the negative if I had anything to say to your listeners. I'll say it yet again. I've said it on every single broadcast. Stop watching the news, get it written, go find it. Because a written news is going to be from a journalist. I can guarantee it. It's not. And when you see it on tv, it's. That's entertainment. And that's how they're selected, by the way. They got to sound right, look right and act right. But when you get a journalist who cares what they look like, that's their profession, you're going to get a better news from a journalist.

[Alex Ferrari]

Fair enough. Fair enough. Now, what is the biggest illusion people are living under today?

[Lee Carroll]

To me, it's the same one that we're going to hell in a hazmasket.

[Alex Ferrari]

And it's not true.

[Lee Carroll]

No, it is not true. And yet if you watch the news, it is true. I mean, most of the media has an agenda and it's such a basic agenda that you laugh. They want you to buy stuff. I mean, there is no conspiracy here to grab you, you know, and put you in a box and control you as much. It is to buy things. And that is what it is. It's always that way. And you can see it in every. That's. That's our culture, folks. So you can watch it on the media as well. They will, first of all, they bias themselves to one way or the other so that a certain group will watch them more. And then they give you the, the news in such a way that you want to continue tuning in because you're always, you're always on the edge of your seat and there's always bad stuff to hear. And it is on and on. That, unfortunately, has been the paradigm since I, since I got here of what the news is, you know, has been. But it's gotten a lot worse in these last few years.

[Alex Ferrari]

What kind of inner work is no longer an option for, optional, for the next phase of humanity? Because a lot of times we keep pushing things away and pushing things away and like, oh, later I'll get to it. Later I get to it. What's not optional anymore?

[Monica Morani]

More, I think it's building on all the questions you were asking previously about what's up for humanity, what doesn't service anymore. What's the illusions? A lot of that is the illusion that we're here as victims and that there is. So think of the programming that comes from media with programming fear. And the reason you do that is because you then want to offer a solution. And we get addicted to hearing, tuning in what's the latest thing that I have to be aware of or pay attention to and fear. And that's always an opportunity to step into your power of how you can overcome fear. And I feel that what's not going to work anymore is trying to feed the program of fear. Because when you become self realized, you are aware that we're not here by accident, we're here on purpose and that we are not victims, we are powerful co creators. When you have that awareness of that's who you are, any fear story that comes to you or anyone that's trying to tell you no, you're victims, you're powerless, you can't control what's happening around you, it's not going to work. And the ones that kind of are showing us the way showers that are emerging are the Indigos. If you've never heard of the term indigo. Lee and his wife at the time, Jan Toba, released a book in 1999 called the Indigo Children. And they were simply those coming to the planet with a different consciousness. They had a different wiring if you like. And they were here as system busters because they could look around and see dysfunction and they would react to that. And they don't want to be part of a system that's dysfunctional. So they want to break down those paradigms of dysfunction and create from that place where kindness matters, compassion, tolerance, integrity, balance and wisdom. So I think the place of where we're going is the ability to see, recognize and discern wisdom.

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And now back to the show.

[Monica Morani]

And that's what is really coming out of this shift. All the history that keeps repeating itself. It's like a cycle where you didn't realize war does nothing but cause suffering and pain and loss on both sides. And it's not the solution for moving forward. And when Lee said there's a new energy on the planet that's never been here before. It's about having solutions to things that were never solvable before. And there was a really fantastic channel from Kryon given maybe a few months ago called the Fog of War. Even that title, doesn't that just dispel the fog of war? And we're really moving to that place where that fog is lifting and we're seeing it for what it is and not anymore. We can't have generations coming in that will have the story, okay, these are my enemies, these are the people I have to hate and we're just going to perpetuate that cycle. It's dysfunctional. And wisdom sees dysfunction in that and says, no, there's, there's another model, another paradigm, and we're really in that transitional stage. What's interesting is when I was talking to a friend of mine who's a world class astrologer and we were talking about how the planets are moving into places they have never been before, that she's seen in all of her career of Looking at them. And this year of 2025 is where they're kind of settling in to this new shift. And that next year we're really going to see the changes of all these settling in a much more positive, benevolent way. So all I can say is hold on, stay the course, stay fast, because we're in this period where the dust is settling. We're cleaning out house, we're renovating, we're getting ready for the launching pad of the new to come.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now, when you. And you said 2025, you meant 2026, right?

[Monica Morani]

I. I meant 2025 was that year of all that pivotal change. And 2026 is where it's settling into all the changes that happened in 2025. And CR even says 25 marked the end of the battle of dark and light. And these next five years, 26, 27, 28, 29 and 30, they're the last five years of the shift. But you're coming out of it in those five years. So 26 is the first of five.

[Alex Ferrari]

Got you. And then when you said that, Lee, when you were saying that there is no. That this has never happened before. And Chiron, Chiron, you see, Kryon said. Said that he was also saying in regards to. I mean, obviously there's Atlantis and the ideas of Atlantis. This is beyond not just this cycle of human evolution, but all of humanity on this planet has never been like this before.

[Lee Carroll]

No, never has been. And that includes any civilization that is. That's ever been here, even some of the ancient ones that had a higher kind of what. What we say, consciousness. No, this is completely new. And I will give you the. The metaphor. I mean, I don't think I did it before, but it's a good one. And it's, it's one that you can look at and go, yeah, that's right. If you look at human consciousness, what Kryon has said is that it never, ever changed. And so what we had was what we call human nature. If you ask a sociologist, human nature is just. It's a staple. It never changes. Well, it does, and it can. We just never have seen it change because we've always been in the same old energy, like a railroad track and where the train is in a circle and we never got out of the circle. So we keep running over the same old energy, the same problems and the same issues. And that creates war after war after war after war. We just have war and we take breaks. Then we have another war and we take a break and we have another war, including the last two we had where we just took a break, and it was the same players at it again. I mean, it's so obvious how this has worked for us. No matter how enlightened or whatever, the, you know, inventions we have, right into the nuclear age, we're ready to do it again. All of these things. That's what people are afraid of. Imagine that in the process of that, something has happened, and it has. The cosmology really has told us about it from the ancients. A siding appears. A siding. So if you're a railroad nut, you know that when you have a siding, you have a switch and then you go off to the side and your train then goes to another track. This is what has happened. And this was always the opportunity. There is a wonderful prophecy on that from the Hopi Indians. It's called the Hopi prophecy rock. And you go there and it actually shows the sighting. It's one that says, that's their cosmology, which is very much like the ones in Peru, the Mayan, that talks about this time in history, the 2000s, and the issues that may happen and the choices we would have to make. And it actually shows the sighting. That's what we are on. So we are now in an energy that we've never been before, because we're off that track. So even ancients were on that track. And we are not anywhere near anything that's ever been before. One of the things that people are reacting to is, is that when we go into an area we've never been, there's always apprehension. And there's apprehension from even the best minds saying we don't know really what we're going to do and where we're going, because it hasn't been really prophesied or the prophecies we had haven't happened. And that's. And if any of you follow some of the older channels that said certain things would happen, and that's on the old track, and they probably would had we stayed on the old track, but we're not there. So now we're in a new area where really it seems that there's uncertainty coming. But from my standpoint, and what we say, there is an another metaphor, and Kryne has said the snowball is rolling down the hill. Now, what that means is that the snowball has an attribute. If we see a snowball rolling down the hill and it's gathering speed and size, and here it comes, you know, some things right there, you know, that there's gravity, it's big, it's rolling in that direction and there's a tree down there and he's probably going to hit it. Now, are you a prophet if you say the tree is going to be hit by the snowball or are you just logical? You can see it. This is what we're talking about. We are on this track in this new energy. And Krinus says that's our snowball and it's going to lead to things you don't expect. And he's called him. He says watch for new alliances between countries that never have allied. That's actually in process now. And that's what Crine was talking about in 2025. He says there are things happening geopolitically you didn't expect. They are. It's not who is right or wrong here or whether you like one party or the other. It's just matter of fact. Take a look at what's going on on the planet right now, on the things that were predicted or not predicted, and you will find the snowball. I'll name the snowball the high enlightened peace on Earth. And we're headed in that direction because we're going to get to a place. Well, there's more, there's more to tell here. We're going to get to a place also we didn't expect, where our culture starts to change. I'll just label it now. In 1999 and Monica brought it up, I wrote a book for Hay House called the Indigo Children. It was the best selling book they had of the year. And there were, there were a million people that reacted to that. They said, yeah, I've got kids like that. And what, what, what crying was showing was a new kind of child was being born at that time that seemed like a troublemaker. But a generation later, they will do things you've never seen before. And one of them is happening right now, Alex, and that is you have young people doing podcasts to millions of other young people on esoteric things, things that most young people in my day could never have cared less about. They don't want anything to do with it.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Lee Carroll]

They are, you know, they've got lives, they've got fun, they got parties, they got places to go, they got music and whatever. And you're not going to have anybody, you know, say, look, I'd like you all to gather around and like to tell you about past lives, you know, get away, get away. Today, literally by the millions, this is happening and it's Indigo. That's just one of the things. But it's right on target. If you, if you start taking a look at a generation, which is often 30 years, 25 years from the birth 1999 is when the information was came out. They're here and they're just at the right age and you're starting to see them going into Congress, going into corporate, going into education, going into medicine and starting to make the same kind of waves they did when they were little and for the same reasons. And this is the, I would say the reason they're here, the reason you're here, the reason so many are here that are doing now.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's.

[Lee Carroll]

That's unexpected. That's part of this new energy that crying says. We've never seen anything like that. That is a change in human nature, my friend, and that is what we're looking at.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's fascinating. Well, I. I hope, I think you were saying that I'm a young person, so I appreciate that very much.

[Lee Carroll]

Alex, you are. When you. When you look at how old I am, you are a young person. You represent a generation and you're talking to both sides, but you definitely are an indigo person, even if you're older, Indigo, you know you are.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, I am a troublemaker, that's for damn sure. I've been since I. Since I was born in the 70s. I've been nothing but a troublemaker.

[Lee Carroll]

Yep. Since I was born in the 40s. You can see what. What's going on there.

[Alex Ferrari]

I understand now why you calling me, but I do. It's not often I'm called that. My. My dog. My kids always call me the old man, so I appreciate it.

[Lee Carroll]

What do they know?

[Alex Ferrari]

Monica, let me ask you something. Do you. Do you. There's a lot of fear going on right now about a lot of things, about the unknown and all this thing. But my take has always been that we have guardrails put on. On us. That's there. There are. There are points that will not be crossed because in any logical sense, we should have destroyed ourselves 100 times already with the kind of weapons that we have, but yet we haven't. Even with insane people in political offices around the world and in craziness and dictators and all of this, and it hasn't happened. Would you agree with that? Do you have any other insight into this guardrail system that we have?

[Monica Morani]

I believe at least I love sharing what I glean from Kryon's wisdom. And Kryon gave many channels on fear because it is something that we deal with. And there's different faces of fear. There's fear that is for survival. So if you are crossing a street and a car is coming and you're about to be hit, you get that fear so that you're compelled to do action for your survival. That's very real fear. We have those kinds of fears for survival. We also have fear that we create. We're very good at creating fear for ourselves. And that's when we project into the unknown, into the future, and we see spin on the what if scenarios, and we take a look at the evidence that's around us and we want to project what that's going to be in the future. And it creates fear. So they're fears that you create. And the way that Kryon says we can move through that is to bias ourselves with positive expectation. You can pave a way with your consciousness of creating a benevolent path in front of you. And part of that is knowing that, like you said, there's a barrier. The guardrails. What represents those guardrails? The inner eternal soul that you have that's always connected to the angelic realm where you can't have fear, it doesn't exist. Where you have a pure stream of a consciousness that is flooded with love, compassion, benevolence. You cannot coexist with fear and that place at the same time. But the easiest way for us to be in that place is the state of gratitude. So when you start affirming the things you're grateful for, when you have that real deep gratification for the things that are going well, you can't have fear at the same time as being grateful. Then there's another type of fear that Kryon has explained that comes from past life experiences. And you can have residues of that because these are multi dimensional energies and experiences. What is it that we know about multidimensionality? In a multidimensional state, time does not exist. Time is limited to the 3D world. Height, length, width, breadth. And time when you have no time, that is multi dimensional. So that's why you can have a past life expression where you might have drowned, you might have burnt on fire. So you carry that residual of that very dramatic event into your current life and it's a residual of fear. And these are things that many therapists out there have been able to assist others in releasing them, clearing them, working with the Akashic records, doing past life regression, or having such an experience of touching the essence of your soul that it instantly dissolves. Those kinds of traumatic experiences. There's many different ways of how to move through and release those experiences. And one of the other residues we carry as a global family is the doom bias. Because we've had history repeat itself. We've had. So my grandparents, they were born in Hungary, they went through World War I and World War II, and you carry that residual. Well, there's going to be a World War 3, isn't there? Because we've already gone through 1 and 2 and then we see these situations seemingly happen again as the trigger of what happened last time. Of course we're going to have a doom bias to expect the worst. Think about your own life. If you've had something go wrong, you're kind of hesitant to try it again. Don't want to go through that pain, that experience that it won't work. So releasing that doom bias, I can't emphasize that enough because Kryon has said we are on that snowball of peace, as Lee mentioned, but the timing of it is up to us. So the more we say, I don't know, I'm not sure, all these signs, it doesn't look good, that delays the snowball of peace. The more of us can be empowered and be in that connection where we, we have crossed that threshold of the battle of dark and light and Armageddon, we've crossed it. There are so many signs that point to that. So it is about claiming it, stating it, affirming it and visualizing it and projecting it onto not just the global family of humanity, but for your own personal life. This is the year where everything turns around. One of the other things in the energy we've never seen on the planet before is that your consciousness, when you start pushing positive expectation in an older energy, you were always faced against a pushback of pushing you back. You're a troublemaker. Sit in the corner. In the past, you may have even been killed for your enlightenment. This is the year where that changes and your consciousness is matched by an energy that is here to support it. No more pushback. So this is where crying has been telling all of us, say yes to things you might have said no to. Go to a place where someone invites you and you would always say, no, I'm not going there. That's not for me. Go and see, because perhaps there's someone you need to meet there that takes you to another direction. In other words, you have to get out of your comfort zone, your comfort bubble of where you're used to operating and working and manifesting as a light worker to move into other areas that are not necessarily what you would have chosen or comfortable.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Monica Morani]

and say yes and see what happens.

[Alex Ferrari]

Beautifully said, beautifully said. Now, we keep speaking about this crayon guy. Is there, is there a way to bring him in to ask him a few questions?

[Lee Carroll]

Sure, but before we do that, please, I would like to just to back up a little bit and tell you that according to Nancy Tappy, who was the one who identified the Indigo Children, there were Indigo children in the 60s. So just in, I think, you know, you are one and you could be a precursor to the ones that we're talking about. But there's no question, even as I look at you, I am so familiar with the Indigo Child and I would say attributes that make no mistake in that. Then the next one is, I love to talk about things that we don't have answers to because they're fun to talk about. And you just ask one, you want to know, is it possible there are guardrails? Now I know there are because Kryon has talked about it. This was about, I would say, 10 years ago or so, there was some conference that Elon Musk was At before he was Mr. Tesla and all, SpaceX and all that, where they talked about esoteric things and ask him with all the attributes, you know, does it appear we're in a simulation?

[Monica Morani]

Yeah.

[Lee Carroll]

And he said yes. And so you, you start looking at that. I asked, crying, are we in a simulation? Crying says, you're indefinitely in a test of consciousness. Then I said, are there controls? And Kryon says, do you mean are there limits that change? And I said, yes. And he said, yes. He said, whatever you do with free choice then snaps other things into place and for instance, the availability for certain kinds of inventions. Have you ever noticed that Earth gets inventions all at once? We only beat the Wright, I mean Wright brothers only beat the French by two weeks. They were all thinking the same things. The Wright brothers just did it first. And there's all man Marconi with radio was so, was so simultaneously with others that they still argue who got there first. So here are things that are given to the Earth seemingly all at once. That's like a control. That's like something's going on that perhaps appears as though we are being given things at a certain time. So yes, and I agree with you. I think there are guardrails. I think that history will show it when things are revealed someday that we don't know about now. How close we got to pushing a button. We'll get stories that are hair raising if they aren't there already. And we'll go how one thing different that day and we would have been in war. And you're going to see a number of those. I believe there are guardrails and because of the snowball, once we show a change is starting to happen on the planet in a certain way, I think those things are moved around a little bit to help us. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I mean you were there during the Cuban Missile Crisis. You were around. You saw that. That was terrifying. I wasn't alive yet, but I saw what was going on from historical videos and films and we got. That's the closest we ever got that we know of. There's many other stories that have come out after the Cold War and stuff that is just air raising.

[Lee Carroll]

There have been, there have been regarding a real life encounter that mimics the red Red October. Yeah. And they may have even got there. And so there's a, there's at least one of those as well. Yeah, Yes. I was there in the crisis and it was exactly as you said. Everybody, we're hair breadth away. We were.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean we're hours away. I mean it was insane how close we got.

[Lee Carroll]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Something. Something intervened and pulled us back from the brick. But that's closest publicly, at least that we've ever seen.

[Lee Carroll]

It's often we learn later, behind the scenes things we don't expect that later we find out why and we go, well, we weren't told that. And you're right. No, we weren't.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'm sure there's a little bit of that happening now.

[Monica Morani]

Yeah.

[Lee Carroll]

So you're gonna, you were gonna ask if we can do some channeling, is that right?

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[Monica Morani]

Yeah, of course, Absolutely. And there's many here that are used to cry on. I love that you every now and then say, Chiron. Chiron is the wounded healer. And I love. Cryon's energy is actually an asteroid. It's. It's an asteroid, but it's also. In astrocartography you have your chiron line, which is the wounded healer and, and healing, which is also beautiful. How I remember it, Alex, is many times when people are experiencing cryons energy live in person, you are filled and flooded with this love wash. You can't help but cry. So we always call it the cry on event, because you cry on and on. So maybe you'll remember it that way.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now I have it. Now I have it.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah, there you go.

[Monica Morani]

A cry on event. And Kryon is here of magnetic service because the reason Kryon's here is for this shift in human consciousness. I've written maybe four books on subject driven titles and I get to ask Kryon questions. And one of them was, you know, Kryon, have you been on other planets? Because we are in a galaxy where there's been planets going through this shift and some have made it, some have not, and those who make it have ascended planet consciousness. And Kryon says, of course, of course I was on other planets. So I'm just premising that, that Kryon is here with a specific mission in helping all of humanity to be self empowered, to move through this shift of consciousness. We are evolving. It's beautiful. You're magnificent. And we're on that trajectory. We're on that path of graduate ascension status.

[Lee Carroll]

Why do I take off my glasses when I channel?

[Monica Morani]

Well, Kryon sometimes goes like that and flips off the glasses, knocks microphones, kicks candles off at the seminar. So that's why we don't put candles in front of Kryon anymore.

[Alex Ferrari]

So it's Cryon is crying. Is crying part Italian, because he uses his hands a lot Is that. Is that the way?

[Lee Carroll]

I hope so. I love.

[Monica Morani]

We do too.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah.

[Monica Morani]

So, yeah, crying is always so with us.

[Lee Carroll]

How would you like to do this, my friend? Shall we just go into channel and let you ask?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, that would be great.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And if. Yeah, we could ask some questions. If he has anything he wants to say at the beginning and at the end, I'll give him space to do that. If he has a message for the audience that's listening right now. Yeah, we could do that.

[Lee Carroll]

Okay. Thank you, my friend.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you, my friend.

[Lee Carroll]

Greetings, dear ones. I am Kryon of Magnetic Service. What a treat to talk to those who know themselves well enough to watch this particular program. And what I mean by that is mostly old souls will be tuning in. The ones who are curious not only about themselves, but of the energy that the planet is going through right now. That is so different. It is so different. I am angelic, you might say. That is to say, when I came to my partner, he said, who are you? And I said, cryon. And he said, well, who was crying? And I said, kryon, it's a group. It's from the other side of the veil. It's a, you might say a love grouping, a compassionate grouping. I arrived in 1989 and the shift began in 1994. I am here to help you through that shift and I continue to help you through the shift. And that is the precession of the equinox, the cosmology that the ancients have told you would happen and it did. Now you are coming out of that. There is so much love for you. I want you to know something before anyone asks any question. God knows your name. If you want to use the term God, the creator of this universe knows your name. And that's because within your soul there is a piece of that creator.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Lee Carroll]

Almost every system on this planet that calls itself spiritual has a writing that will tell you that God inside. I want you to know that because that is what starts to emerge in the consciousness of humanity on this new track. Thank you for that.

[Alex Ferrari]

Cryan. First question is what is humanity's mo? What is humanity most afraid of to face about itself right now in this moment?

[Lee Carroll]

The fear that the humanity has right now, or perhaps what it does not want to face is the inevitable of what might happen, perhaps if you don't awaken. In other words, the doom bias is there and it's so much there that that is one of the biggest things that humanity will have to get through. I want to give you an example. If you start counting the number of movies or episodal or anything you want to look at that's even current or past in the last 25 years, hundreds and hundreds deal with the aftermath after a nuclear attack. Now that is a bias. And you continue that because it's a theme. I think humanity is afraid to face that because they believe that it might happen. It's a popular theme because it's been drummed into you from the old energy that I've talked about before. The other thing that is difficult to face, believe it or not is a change in humanity that is so startling that almost all of the infrastructure that you're used to, that's consciousness, will change. You're on the edge of it with AI now. Some will say, well, what is it that AI is going to do? And I will tell you a number of things. First of all, you'll get used to it. You'll get through the fad of it. You'll get used to talking to it. And then you'll realize it does not have consciousness. It has data now that's still happening. It's probably going to take a number of years before it gets old and is no longer something that you're enamored with. And then it starts to work. Let me tell you about AI it's going to solve some of the biggest diseases of this planet. AI will probably be responsible for curing cancer because it can look at all the research that's ever been done in an instant. It can pull together things that have never been pulled together. When you apply it to base 12, it'll take you to the stars. This is the reason for AI now on the planet. Dear ones, did you wonder if this was on purpose that you would have AI at this time? And the answer is. Exactly. It's right where it belongs. Humanity doesn't want to face that either, because it thinks that AI will take over. And why is that? And that is because your movie said so. Now back to the bias of the films actually trying to shape a future. It has nothing to do with any of those films. I will tell you this. If I was going to write the next Terminator film, I would have the Terminator turn into a higher consciousness and get rid of all the other apparatus on the planet that would hold you back, because that truly is the prophecy. The AI the thinking machine, would take you to places you haven't been before and be your friend and not your enemy.

[Alex Ferrari]

Beautifully said. Now, is there a timeline shift happening and what determines which path we experience as individual and as a consciousness?

[Lee Carroll]

I'm glad you asked that. As a individual, as a major consciousness, it has to start with individuality, waking up on the planet. And has my partner mentioned the indigo effect right now of the young people actually being interested in the esoteric things? Now, this is a major consciousness shift on the planet. For ages, there has been a social norm that tells you what you're interested in, at what age you get interested in and what you do about it. Many books have been written, the psychology is well known. That has all started to shift so that is one of the biggest things that you're going to see. So individually, you're starting to awaken. What happens next is the individuals, they start to have what I'll call a coherence with one another. Now, if you studied coherence, you'll realize that you don't have to be in the same room. You don't even have to be in the same country. You can have coherence in the field. Something that has been defined as the consciousness of all. Some have actually defined it years ago as the great unconscious or the collective unconscious. It's the field. When you start realizing that consciousness is energy, which is now proven, you realize that that energy literally has a substance to it. You might say that is on the planet. This allows for things like remote viewing to happen, because it's accurate. It is true. Picking up other things that are happening through the field. So what I'm telling you is that as the individuals start to have a higher consciousness and awaken, you click into a coherence with many that starts to affect other individuals, and they start asking questions. Awakening is the process of looking at life, yourself, creation, what you've been told spiritually, and making up your own mind, asking the questions, is this real? Is it not real? Is there something more? Is there not? And the coherence of that has created what is happening today in so many individuals that then becomes a collective. And that collective of coherence, of consciousness, then becomes the mass awakening. Eventually, one heart at a time, my friend, is the way it works. But I will tell you right now that there are literally millions who are working this puzzle together and are starting to awaken to a larger truth, a truth that does not have God as a punishing father, but God is a creator who loves every single soul on this planet equal. And the job of every human being is to then apply that to all lives and all countries. And it is normal. It will appear to be something you want to do. You want to emulate the compassion of God. That emulation is going to start with the children who are now young adults. Soon you're going to see something. And I want you to look for this, because it's already in the works. It's already in the field. I see it very clearly. You will see Those in their 30s and 40s on both sides of not only the aisle, which means political, but also you'll see it in countries that have been enemies for decades and decades, holding hands, coming together, looking you in the eye and saying, we got to stop this. Because the truth is this. There's too many of us to risk it. We've got to work on fresh water for everyone, food for everyone, power for everyone, education for everyone. And that's what we're here for. And it'll shock you because the alliances are wrong. They shouldn't be together holding hands and looking at you this way. You've always seen them as at war. That's coming. And when it does, I want you to remember this moment because it's already in the field. It's starting to happen. It should happen and then should happen because the energy here is promoting it. There is not the old energy pushback that there was even last year or the year before. That's what's happening on the planet.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, then, Koran, tell me, what is the true purpose behind the chaos that everyone seems to be seeing happening around the world?

[Lee Carroll]

It's the culmination of many things, but mostly because this is the year that I said you're going to look at settling things that have never been settled. There is an energy that says we have got to finish this. There's an energy that says, enough. And the old energy then says the solution is always war. So you see that first because you're not there yet. You don't have that collective consciousness that is going to be. It will occur. But you'll notice when this war broke out was right away, soon as February came and you'd settled into 2026. It was there in a way it never was there before. You might ask, why now? What's the reasoning? If you ask the politicians what happened then, they'll just say, well, it was time. They felt it, too. They felt it too.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

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[Lee Carroll]

So this is what's going on. The chaos is an old energy reflection of the way to settle it. But be aware that settling it is what you're asking about. And that is what I predicted as well. But things have simply not been settled or been in a way that is always hanging. You might say they never got tied up, it never got then put to bed. It never got a solution. This is the year where these things start all over the planet. I'll say it again. Watch for new alliances with countries that are now going to settle other things that have been not settled for years or things that haven't worked well. Alliances that you've always just counted on that didn't really work well. Systems that you thought were forever not really. They really didn't work well. And they'll start to change them. This is the beginning of that.

[Alex Ferrari]

What is one belief that humans must let go of in order to evolve?

[Lee Carroll]

You must let go of the fact that you've been taught for centuries that God is a punishing God, that you have natural born dirty attributes. It's the greatest lie that has ever been given to humanity about a wonderful, compassionate God. That you were born unworthy. When the truth is you are born magnificent, you're born beautiful and you have every opportunity in life to teach your children that very thing. And every opportunity in life to go from there to find out what that really means to be a compassionate soul. It'll change your life. That is, if I may tell you now, the secret to life extension Joy. That is also part of, I would say, the laughter, the inner child, all of those things that we have taught about. Back to your question and the answer. You must understand you were born magnificent.

[Alex Ferrari]

If someone feels lost right now, what is the first step they can step back to? Clarity. That can do.

[Lee Carroll]

There are so many lost souls right now. I say that in a way that you would understand. Your soul is never lost. But a lost soul, to some of you, are those who are in despair. I will tell you something you don't expect. Energy is real. It is not something that simply dissipates into the air. So you create your own energy. For instance, have you ever tried to deal with a depressed person? Telling them about better things or giving them something that you know they like? And they will say, get away from me. I want to. I want to dig my hole a little deeper. Does that make any sense? And the answer is, it does not. But energy is that way. So energy begets energy. That is the same, and that's both positive and negative. Almost everybody who is in despair right now, lost souls are experiencing something I will call cascading negativity. One thing leads to another, which is also bad, which leads to another, which is also negative. And so you think, everything I try does not work. Nothing I have ever done is good enough. Look at where I am now. Now I'm feeling bad. There's probably a disease. And I will tell you right now that all of those things are probably true. Because that's what you created. Do you dare, old soul, drop into your heart for a moment and ask the question, am I creating my own whole? Is it possible that I'm creating all that is wrong in my life? If I am, dear spirit, show me that I am loved. Now I'm going to reveal something to you now that's an aspect, an attribute of the Creator. You all come in with guides. There's literally angelic energy all around you. And they just sit there and watch you do what you do. A human with free choice means that very thing. The minute you start reaching out to spirit, not in a pleading way, not in a God, dear help me, but in a God, please show me who I am, what is next, and give me that which is the peace and the compassion to go through what I need to, to awaken and get out of this horror I'm in. Energy begets energy. I want every one of you who is sad right now or despondent right now, or even those of you who are perhaps not to do a simple 30 second exercise. It's easy and I guarantee it'll change your perspective on life. When you get up in the morning, I want you to swing your legs around and let them hit the floor. Stay grounded. And for 30 seconds, I want you to think of all the things you're grateful for. It could be as simple as nature or. Or an animal you're with, or perhaps a partner who loves you, or someone across the ocean who loves you. I know who's listening here. Or the fact that you're not going hungry. There are so many things to be grateful for. All of you have this 30 seconds. Thank you, spirit. Thank you, God. Thank you, creative source, for this. I am grateful for this. And you can start listening, listing them. 30 seconds. And I'll tell you why this is important. It's hard to get into fear when you start with gratitude. It's hard to go down that rabbit hole of depression when you start with gratitude. And when you do that, for 30 seconds, I want you to feel the angels getting just a little closer to you. I want you to hear them if you wish to, just figuratively saying, oh my God, she's interested. Oh my God, he's interested. Let's look at. What are they going to do next? Are they really awakening? Are they really asking this? Yes. There's an entourage waiting to take your hand when you do these things. Energy begots energy. Whatever you put out will come back.

[Alex Ferrari]

Brian, what does a truly awakened human look like in today's world?

[Lee Carroll]

What kind of a human is that to you?

[Alex Ferrari]

An enlightened one, a conscious one, looks like light.

[Lee Carroll]

Just like light. When we look upon this planet, we see love for every single human being. The ones who have a higher consciousness that have discovered that every single day they're taken care of Every single day. They have answers. Every single day. They can. They can have healings. And there's purpose and reason. They're like beacons of light. 25 years ago, there weren't that many, not really. Today, if you could see what I see. There's lighthouses all over this planet, more than ever before, who have awakened to a greater truth. Not a doctrine, dear ones, not a religion that you with a personal awakening to who you are. What if it was true? You really had God inside? What kind of a difference would that make in a 3D world that you have to walk around in? You walk in a toxic world and it doesn't touch you. That's what it's like. You walk where somebody can yell at you and call you names and it doesn't affect you. It doesn't press your button because you have mastery. Mastery doesn't react. Mastery observes. And you walk forward without feeling a thing. Let them feel what they wish. What I will show them is love. That's what it looks like. Looks like light. And there's a lot of it here, my friend.

[Alex Ferrari]

For those watching right now who are living in fear about the future, what advice or words of wisdom do you have for them?

[Lee Carroll]

Almost everything that you're afraid of has been given to you to be afraid of. Almost everything you fear has been on a plate handed to you.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Lee Carroll]

If you're in my partner's culture, that would be America. If you watch television late at night, you're being told you're sick. Commercial after commercial after commercial, you're sick. You're sick. You need this. You need this. You realize that you watch the news, you're being told you're on the brink of war all the time, you're going to run out of oil, you're not going to be able to do this and that, and it's all the time. Did you ever tune into a news channel who started with good news and the answer is no? Does that mean there isn't any? No, it means that they have chosen to hand you bad news on a plate. Once you see that, you'll see that the fear you have is something that has been designed. You, my friend, are designed for joy, for wisdom, for light. Once you start understanding the dynamics of why you feel the way you do, you start relaxing a bit. You start not watching those things that you know are designed to frighten you. Then it gets even better. Now you're in control of your life. The snowball is rolling down the hill of peace on earth. You have a chance to slow it down or speed it up, depending on how you feel about yourself, who you are, what you might be able to do just individually for yourself. Did you know that when you vibrate higher in consciousness that there are certain diseases that cannot attach themselves to you? You think that's esoteric. It isn't. You're going to find there's science behind that. Because diseases are living things. They also have a living vibration. So do you. If your cells are vibrating higher than the disease, it can't touch you. Did you ever think of that? These are the things that will be discovered even in medicine. They'll scratch their heads wanting to know why certain groups of people never catch a certain thing. Then they'll start looking at their belief system. Oh, there is more here than meets the eye. There is hope here. There is love here. Grab onto it and you'll know what I mean.

[Alex Ferrari]

And finally cry on. Is there any final words you would like to give to the audience?

[Lee Carroll]

That is what I want to tell the audience. Born magnificent, every one of you. Don't buy into the lie that you came here by accident or that perhaps you have a creator who doesn't like you, who's looking at you, who will send you to hell and torture you forever. Does that sound like the love of God? Does that even reasonable? Start using what I would call spiritual logic and apply it to how you feel. Is there a creator? Some of you will say, well, I don't have any. Any evidence of it. Well, you haven't given a chance. Let the evidence be in you. Try these things, perhaps. Go ahead, ask, Dear spirit, are you real? Show me. Do you have the courage to do something like that and not then decide in advance that it's stupid to do that? Most people who hear this, that's what they do. Okay, I'll give it a shot. Knowing perhaps in their brain it won't work. So what do they do? They do it knowing it won't work. And then when it doesn't, they say, see, it didn't work. They set up their own result before they ever begin the problem. Instead, if you would open your heart and say, I'm here. I'm really here. If you love me, show me. Oh, boy. Spirit cannot resist a human being's heart that is pure that asks that. And sometimes, dear ones, you have to go at the end of your string and go right down to the depths of the dark night of the soul before you will ever, ever do that. And then when you do, it all changes. You don't have to go there, not anymore. You can do it right where you sit. It's worth asking, isn't it? Find the God inside. And so it is.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you.

[Lee Carroll]

Wow.

[Alex Ferrari]

That was powerful, Lee. You jump in and out real quick. That's.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah, real quick. I'll tell you the story. Because it was years and years ago now. I was in my shower work, crying, talks to me, and I heard very clearly, are you ready to go to the next level? And I had such a human reaction. I thought to myself, dang, I thought I was at the highest level.

[Alex Ferrari]

That spiritual ego. It was like, aren't I already there?

[Lee Carroll]

And so I said. I said. And I said, sure. I didn't really mean it, but I said, sure. And I really wanted to know what that was. And Kryn said, you're playing church with me. You sit down. People sit down in front of you, and you have something, you do something, you say something. And then everybody goes. And it's no church anymore, and there's no crying anymore. And so I want you to do 24, 7. I want you to be me all the time. Then when you bring me in, all you're doing is turning a page of a book, and I'm there. We're Closing the book. So it's just opening and closing something that's already there so you don't have to huff and puff or turn around or make funny noises to be a channel. And that is not that. There are those who do that that you shouldn't listen to. I'm just saying, this is me. This is me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure.

[Lee Carroll]

So this is what I experienced, and that's what you're seeing. It took a long time, folks.

[Monica Morani]

I would call Lee the reluctant channel. I mean, there are those who are dedicated to becoming a channel and to mastering the channeling technique. That was not Lee.

[Lee Carroll]

Relax. That's. That's what I tell anybody who wants to channel. That's, you know, that's what Marilyn Harper says to teaches channeling.

[Alex Ferrari]

Relax.

[Monica Morani]

Yes.

[Lee Carroll]

You know, don't get like, I'm going to do it.

[Monica Morani]

I'm going to do it.

[Lee Carroll]

Because that doesn't work.

[Monica Morani]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I've. I've talked to a couple of channels in my day. So I've seen every. Every flavor, every style, and you pop in and out very, very quickly and very. Just. It's just a very flawless almost.

[Monica Morani]

You know, Alex, it took Leigh about four years to make that bridge with Tryon. You have to remember from back then, 37 years ago or more, there was a lot of trance channel, so there was complete takeover of the body.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like Seth. Like Seth. Like Seth.

[Monica Morani]

Yeah.

[Lee Carroll]

Yes. Seth was a good example.

[Monica Morani]

And Lee said, don't do that to me.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah.

[Monica Morani]

I want to know exactly what's happening. And Kryon said, it's going to take you longer to have that meld. That's why Lee remembers everything Kryon says. He's present. He's 100%.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah.

[Monica Morani]

And that's the difference we see with.

[Lee Carroll]

Seth was such a wonderful channel. I love the information of Seth. And there's. Is this a book? Seth speaks. I forget what. But in an older energy. You almost had to go there and do that in order to give that information. Not now.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, yeah, I think now. Now channels are. I mean, obviously it's still not mainstream, but it's a lot more mainstream than it was when you started for sure.

[Lee Carroll]

Yes, totally. There are so many channels. I mean, I. I'm living a beautiful time. I never thought I'd see where there's so many who can flip that switch and have so much powerful information.

[Alex Ferrari]

And these older. The older energy you're talking about, the Edgar Cayce's, the Seths, they had to almost do that in order for anyone to even kind of almost take them Seriously in.

[Lee Carroll]

They almost had to be. They almost had to be Showman.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. A little Barnum and Bailey kind of vibe to it back in the day where now the newer channels I've spoken, the young. I've spoken to channels who are in their 20s.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And they, they come in and out. Not as quick as you, obviously, but they, but there's just different now. Sure, there are some that do a little bit more, more action and their voices change and all that. But that's just different people doing different things. Like if I cook eggs and you cook eggs, it's going to be very different.

[Lee Carroll]

Different. And we had this Wednesday night show and we have, we're doing it now for five years. We're a lot of them.

[Monica Morani]

Oh, six years.

[Lee Carroll]

Six years and pictures. And we have numbers of young channels on that show and I watch them very closely and many times it's just a matter of being quiet for a moment or two. Then it comes in. So it's getting easier and I'm watching it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Amazing. Must be amazing for you. So where can people find out more about you, Cryon, and all the amazing work you're doing?

[Lee Carroll]

We still want to send people to cryonmasters.com and that is where all of our online work is. And then also you can see there some other things we do.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Lee Carroll]

If you want to go to see where our live things are. And that's a whole different part of crying. That's Kryon.com so there's really two places and two things that you're looking at. Our online work and our courses on cryingmasters.com. our live things are on crying.com sounds good.

[Alex Ferrari]

And do you. Do. I'll leave it to both of you. Do either of you have or both of you have final messages for the audience in this insane moment of transition, I've.

[Lee Carroll]

I cannot top what Crime said. This is what I say. You're born magnificent, don't you think? You're. You're here by accident. What do you have to say?

[Monica Morani]

Mine is so grateful to have your energy. Part of this conversation with Alex and my request is kindness. Sometimes people might watch the program. They may not always agree with everything we say or someone is speaking too long, the other person's not speaking enough. And the comments that you write can have a big impact. So make them have kindness as the energy that's behind it.

[Lee Carroll]

Alex knows exactly what we're talking about.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, you mean there's negative comments on the Internet? What?

[Lee Carroll]

There are people that hover that are looking for bad things to say to make you feel bad because it empowers them somehow. Well, and we know that.

[Monica Morani]

And I, you know, we all welcome. We all welcome different opinions, of course, but. And through all of it just. Is it being. Am I using kindness in my words?

[Alex Ferrari]

I. I've read. I've.

[Monica Morani]

They're my final parting words.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah. Just think. Try to be kind.

[Monica Morani]

Think kindness. Kindness matters.

[Alex Ferrari]

Listen, I've heard, I've read comments that are like, they disagree, but they're kind about it. And that's okay. You don't have to. You don't have to agree. It does. It might not float your boat. It might not. You might not vibrate with it. That's fine. But there's no need to be nasty about it. I disagree with a lot of things happening in the world, but I don't go around attacking everybody. I don't hang out on other people's channels and go, you know what? That's not the way crying would say it. That's not. That's not the way Monica and Lee would have said it.

[Lee Carroll]

You know, truth. I've had criticisms and kindness that I actually read the whole thing and agreed. I said, you know, I never thought of that. They're right. Yeah, agree. Much more apt to. To look at it in a serious way if it were. If it were postured in a kind way.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolute. Absolutely. Well, Monica, I do appreciate you saying that. That does mean a lot to me. And I think anybody who's ever been on the Internet, so.

[Monica Morani]

But even responding to someone's negative comments, I kind of laugh because we, we have to even be kind when people are being unkind. And, you know, it's that same thing of it's easy to love people when they're lovable.

[Lee Carroll]

Yeah,

[Monica Morani]

that's easy. But our challenge of mastery, that's our mastery challenge. Loving people when they're unlovable. That's why kindness is so simple.

[Lee Carroll]

So that's what it is. That's what she said.

[Monica Morani]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Guys, it has always been such a pleasure having you here. I look forward to our next conversation. Hopefully we'll get you in the studio soon, sometime before the big, giant transition happens. But I appreciate you guys. Thank you again so much for everything you're doing to help it with.

[Lee Carroll]

Thank you.

[Monica Morani]

Delight and a pleasure always to be with you. Alex,

[Alex Ferrari]

thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at next levelsoul.com forward/685. And if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentation, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV. Until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking, and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.

[Monica Morani]

Foreign.

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