NLS 569: ANGRY Atheist & Addict DIES; Shocked By WHO She Saw in Heaven (Profound NDE) with Betty Guadagno

Summary

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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari:

Episode 569 — “ANGRY Atheist & Addict DIES; Shocked By WHO She Saw in Heaven (Profound NDE) with Betty Guadagno”
Release Date: April 1, 2025
Guest: Betty Guadagno
Host: Alex Ferrari

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Overview

In this riveting episode, Alex Ferrari welcomes Betty Guadagno—a former staunch atheist and addict whose life was marred by intense trauma, loss, and addiction—who recounts her extraordinary near-death experience (NDE) that radically changed her worldview. Betty candidly shares her painful backstory, the details of her NDE, her journey of recovery, and the profound spiritual insights gained on the other side. With Betty’s humor, raw honesty, and wisdom, the conversation traverses themes of suffering, soul contracts, ancestral healing, transformation, and the power of collective awakening.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Betty’s Early Life: Trauma, Addiction, and Atheism

• Background: Grew up in a family rife with addiction, poverty, and sexual trauma.
• Spiritual Exposure: Raised by a Jewish mother and Catholic father, but both were "agnostic atheists."
• Coping Mechanism: Adopted atheism as a way to not blame God for her suffering.

  "It was easier for me to not believe in something because I had such a traumatic childhood... if I believed in God, then I would have to believe God was doing those things to me." (04:31, Betty)

• Childhood Programming: Modeled addiction from observing her parents' attempts to escape pain.

  "All I know is that things are shifting and I want that shift." (06:23, Betty)

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2. The Depths of Addiction and Family Tragedy

• Parents’ Death: Both parents died by suicide (intentional overdose) when Betty was 23, leaving her and her younger sister behind.

  "They made this decision... the only way they knew how to stop using was to do what everyone else in our family did, which was die." (07:30, Betty)

• Escalation of Addiction: Addiction became her "parent and guiding star." Betty deliberately chose the role of perpetrator, intentionally hurting others.

  "I was done being a victim... I decided to be the abuser." (08:49, Betty)

• Victim and Perpetrator Duality: For years, saw life strictly through these roles.

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3. Soul Contracts & Choosing Her Life (“Blueprints” and Pre-Birth Planning)

• After her awakening, Betty believed she chose her life and its traumas from the soul’s perspective for the sake of spiritual growth and collective healing.

  "Heaven is really boring, and my soul is this Spanish novella scriptwriter... every storyline that could happen in a person’s life happened in my life." (10:46, Betty)

• On ancestral trauma: her healing ripples through generations—

  "As I take on this intense healing, it’s not just for me, it’s for the whole collective." (15:07, Betty)

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4. The NDE: The Day Betty “Died”

Timestamp: 20:41–44:13

The Overdose & Transition

• Event: On March 23, 2019, overdosed at age 35.
• Initial Experience: Life review—felt every emotion and pain she had inflicted on others, both physically and emotionally, “from their point of view.”

  “My life review was not nice… it was brutal, agonizing… [I] started to experience the pain I inflicted on others from their point of view.” (23:21, Betty)

• Collective Life Review: Experienced events not part of her own life (e.g., childbirth, losing a child, her parents’ suicide from both their and her perspectives), as well as past lives and ancestral pain.

  “It was as if my soul was going up and down the scale of consciousness… rapid-firing up and down.” (28:40, Betty)

• No physical “room”: Experience constructed in her “mind’s eye”, not a judgment—no condemnation, only clarity.

  “There’s no such thing as condemnation… it was about truth. This is the way I made other people feel.” (30:19, Betty)

Hearing Her Father’s Voice: Shift into the Light

• Her late father’s voice began chanting:

  “You are worthy of all the love in the universe.” (31:03, Betty)

• Following the voice, she transitioned from the agony of life review to an experience of light.

Meeting the Council & Choosing Her Life

• On a “spaceship”, greeted by a ‘commander’ (a Christ/Krishna/Buddha-like higher consciousness), and thousands of souls—chosen to volunteer for the “transformation of consciousness on Earth.”

  “Our commander is telling us we are the most special volunteers... we have decided to jump to Earth for the transformation of consciousness.” (33:38, Betty)

• Table of Beings:
  • Administrative figures with a “giant book”—“You’re not meant to stay.” Here only for information.
• Pre-Birth Planning Visualized as Supermarket Sweep:
  • Led aisles lined with “cereal boxes,” each representing a core life experience (addiction, sexual trauma, poverty, etc).
  • Selected the (“variety pack”) of the most difficult experiences out of a desire for growth and service.

Profound Soul Contracts: The Abuser’s Soul

• Saw the soul of the man who abused her as a child:

  “We came orb to orb… I saw that we loved each other so much, that’s why we were going to play these roles… balancing our energy with each other.” (39:06, Betty)

Return to Earth

• Resisted returning but was told by her Council, “you are going back because you’ve trained for lifetimes for this particular lifetime.”

  “You’re not going back as punishment… this is the most exciting time to be on Earth.” (41:12, Beings/Council)

• Given a choice to return to her damaged body or be reborn as a baby with even more hardship. Chose her body.
• Council reassured: “First part was bootcamp… the second part is carrying out your mission. You’ll have a team… It’s going to be so much better, just trust us.” (42:04, Council)

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5. Integration, Recovery, and Awakening After the NDE

Timestamp: 44:47–67:13

• Initially dismissed the experience as “drug-induced psychosis.”
• In the months after, suppliers vanished, could not procure drugs, went into painful withdrawal, “sick all over myself” (52:25, Betty).
• Miraculous Healing: Prayed for help, experienced a vision of two comical little “doctors” who, after performing an operation in her mind’s eye, instantly removed her withdrawal symptoms.

  “In that moment, I was instantaneous healed out of day three of heroin withdrawal.” (55:05, Betty)

• Overwhelming Sense of Unworthiness:

  “I’m a radical atheist, an addict, an abuser—and yet this is the person that has been bestowed with instantaneous healing.” (55:15, Betty)

• Affirmation Returns: Heard again, “You are worthy of all the love in the universe.”
• Divine Coincidences: Serendipitously guided into a 12-step meeting, a women’s rehab (17 months), and deep spiritual study.
• A Course in Miracles: Found and devoured this spiritual text, leading to a patchwork spiritual practice.
• Integration of Shadow: Awareness of Jungian psychology, development of character around her addictions and ego (“Richard” the addiction, etc.), active inner dialogues to manage her many “parts.”

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6. Transformation, Healing Work, and Insights

Timestamp: 68:24–113:05

• Now works in recovery, as a transformation coach, and for IANDS (International Association for Near-Death Studies).
• “If a homeless junkie can do this, you probably can too.” (81:30, Betty)
• Service and healing ripple effect: Assisting others (in addiction and in grief) in both personal and collective healing.
• On her ongoing process:

  “I’m not saying I’m perfect… I’m only trying to be better than who I used to be. Every day I have an opportunity to do that.” (76:56, Betty)

• On resisting self-sabotage after transformation & success:

  “Success is very uncomfortable for me, and my inner saboteur comes in to protect me… but I have to be vigilant about my spiritual practices.” (94:53, Betty)

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7. Life After Death, Soul Contracts, and the Meaning of Life

Timestamp: 89:36–108:37

• No fear of death: “I’m actually really enjoying my Earth experience today because I’ve come out on the other side.” (89:53, Betty)
• On returning to Earth: Now sees it as an opportunity, would choose to come back.
• Heaven vs. Earth:

  “Heaven is boring. There’s only one thing happening: unconditional love. Which is cool, I guess, but how can you appreciate love unless you understand suffering?” (92:19, Betty)

• Purpose of Life:

  “We come here to forget so that we can remember. Because it’s in the remembrance… that’s the bliss.” (108:07, Betty)

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Notable Quotes

• On victimhood and soul contracts:

  “I’m not a victim. I’m a divine co-creator.” (39:06, Betty)

• On her life review:

  “My life review was not nice. It was agonizing… I started to experience the pain I inflicted on others from their point of view.” (23:21, Betty)

• On worthiness:

  “You are worthy of all the love in the universe.” (31:03, Father’s voice, echoed throughout)

• On purpose and healing:

  “I want to be the ancestor that people in my family pray to one day and say, ‘Oof, I need Aunt Betty’s help…’” (15:07, Betty)

• On her ego and parts work:

  “Richard lives inside of a glass house inside my mind… If I ignore him, he’ll just get louder and louder and louder.” (68:24, Betty)

• On integrating her spiritual experience:

  “My awareness is blasted open and I want to fill it with spirituality. I want to figure out what’s the meaning of life…” (64:31, Betty)

• On coming out about her NDE:

  “I didn’t know what had happened to me. It was a long-term program… so I had to learn things out of books... everything came together in community.” (64:31, Betty)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 04:31 — On using atheism as a shield against spiritual pain
• 07:30 — Parents’ overdose and her own addiction taking over
• 10:46 — Soul as “Spanish novella scriptwriter”; why she chose her life
• 20:41 — The day of her NDE
• 23:21 — Betty’s brutal life review
• 31:03 — Father’s voice: “You are worthy of all the love in the universe.”
• 33:38 — “Spaceship” of souls, meeting Christ-like commander
• 39:06 — Pre-birth planning, soul contract with abuser
• 41:12 — Council: “You’ve been training for lifetimes for this”
• 52:25 — Betty’s withdrawal, prayer, and instantaneous healing
• 55:05 — Recovery, divine affirmation, beginning of spiritual awakening
• 64:31 — Spiritual study, “A Course in Miracles”, insatiable thirst for knowledge
• 68:24 — Shadow work, “Richard” the addiction, integrating ego
• 76:56 — Ongoing transformation, ever-evolving journey
• 92:19 — “Heaven is boring. There’s only one thing happening: unconditional love.”
• 94:53 — Self-sabotage after recovery and finding success
• 108:07 — “We come here to forget so that we can remember”

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Memorable and Humorous Moments

• The "Spanish novella scriptwriter" joke about her soul choosing a dramatic life plan — a recurring source of laughter throughout.
• Alex’s crack:

  “You are the most fascinating near death experiencer I’ve ever seen. At least the most fun.” (82:13, Alex)

• Stealing a Bible from Walgreens in New York:

  “I want to learn about God. So I’m going to steal a Bible…” (78:18, Betty)

• Laying hands on homeless people in the subway, believing she was the “second coming of Christ”:

  “I’m now Jesus. Laying hands on homeless drug addicts… I was cuckoo bananas. I was really out of control.” (56:37–57:03, Betty)

• On signs from passed loved ones: asking her dad for a sign and receiving a fox book at TJ Maxx (102:51–103:32)
• The “spiritual supermarket sweep,” picking out soul experiences via cereal boxes (36:10, Betty)

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Closing Thoughts & Practical Advice

• On healing: Don’t do it alone—seek mentors, teachers, and conscious communities.

  “If I’m doing my work by myself, I’m in bad company. I’m the one who got me into this mess to begin with.” (113:05, Betty)

• On life & afterlife: Life's purpose is to experience—the full range of contrast, pain, joy, and connection. The journey is transformative for both self and the collective.

• On spiritual awakening: There’s no perfect way to wake up—be gentle, find support, and stay present.

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Find Betty Guadagno

• Social media handle: @BuddhaBetty
• Website: BuddhaBetty.com
• Works as a transformation coach and with IANDS (International Association for Near-Death Studies)

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[This episode is a profound, funny, and deeply moving testimony to the possibilities for human transformation, healing, and the power of choosing one’s own path—even in the aftermath of life’s darkest chapters.]

Transcript

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[Alex Ferrari]

Welcome to the Next Level Soul podcast where we ask the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my Soul's mission? We attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests on the planet today. I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, if you wanted to go deeper down the rabbit hole with Next Level Soul, please download the free Next Level Soul app on Apple or Android. All you've got to do is is go over to next levelsoul.com forward/subscribe, download and get access to Meditations, exclusive interviews, live streams with me, and early access to episodes before they air anywhere else. And so, so much more. So again, head over to nextlevelsoul.com subscribe disclaimer the views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of this show, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now, guys, today you're about to listen to one of the craziest near death experience stories I have ever had on the show and arguably one of my favorite because not only is it deep and raw and just profound and it is arguably one of the funniest ones I have ever heard. We welcome to the show Nder Betty Gudanu. I mean, I just am without words after this episode, guys. So if you like near death experiences, get ready, let's dive in. I'd like to welcome to the show Betty Guadagno. How you doing, Betty?

[Betty Guadagno]

So grateful to be here.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you so much for coming down to Next Level Soul Studios. I appreciate it.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, it's beautiful here.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. We try to, we try to make it homey.

[Betty Guadagno]

It's really nice.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's a nice, cool vibe here. These, these lovely souls are always with us. So, so we're going to talk about your near death experience, but your, your story is pretty interesting because you were a hardcore atheist. Hardcore atheist. You were raised in the Jewish faith?

[Betty Guadagno]

No, my mother was Jewish, my father was Catholic. But they were agnostic atheists.

[Alex Ferrari]

Got you. So they didn't even go on Easter to the church or the temple.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nothing like that.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So. So you didn't have much of a spiritual upbringing.

[Betty Guadagno]

Zero spiritual awareness, spirit.

[Alex Ferrari]

So when you were coming up, nothing.

[Betty Guadagno]

Nothing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nothing.

[Betty Guadagno]

Never heard of the word spiritual awakening. Never heard of a near death experience. Never heard of a chakra. Nothing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nothing like that. But you had heard of like Jesus obviously.

[Betty Guadagno]

Sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you've heard of, you know, these kind of, you know, stories in the Bible and things, but it was just like, yeah, whatever. So you were a hardcore atheist. So what? I always like to ask atheists, what did you believe? Like what did you think was going to happen after you died as an atheist?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, I thought that you just turn into dirt and that's it and that's.

[Alex Ferrari]

The end of it.

[Betty Guadagno]

It was just easier for me to not believe in something because I had such a traumatic childhood and I had so many terrible things happen to me and if I believed in God then I would have to believe that God was doing those things to me. And so I just stayed hidden from God instead because it seemed easier.

[Alex Ferrari]

It was a coping mechanism.

[Betty Guadagno]

Definitely.

[Alex Ferrari]

It was a cop coping mechanism. That's an interesting because I always love hearing atheists points of view of like, okay, so what do you think? And it's just, it's just very fascinating. So, so let's, let's go down what happened. So before we get into your near death experience, what was your life like before it, yeah.

[Betty Guadagno]

My life before my experience was traumatizing. That's a good encapsulating word. So I grew up in a family that was full of addiction and poverty and sexual trauma and everything that goes along with living a life like that. And I just thought that it was all really normal. I didn't realize that any of that stuff was different. I thought that it was normal to steal your groceries. I thought that it was normal to get eviction notices on your door and move once or twice a year. I thought that it was normal to have a long orange extension cord going from your apartment to the building, to have lights on in your house. I thought all that stuff was completely normal because that's what I saw around me. And I didn't realize that my life was abnormal until much later. But I did know that my parents were struggling, but every time that they smoked something or took a drink or they ate a pill, everything just turned off. It was as if there was nothing wrong anymore. And so I made all of these mental notes as a little kid. As soon as I can get my hands on whatever that is, that's what I'm gonna do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, wow. So it was that programming of that first, that first seven year programming period where you don't even have to be taught. It's not like they sat down and go, this is how you do meth.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like along those lines. But just by being in the environment, you pick up subconsciously.

[Betty Guadagno]

Absolutely. All that stuff, watching the behaviors, is it like. All I know is that things are shifting and I want that shift.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's interesting. Like when people, I always tell people when, when they come into that, they don't believe in the subconscious training of the first seven years. I go, have you ever met a rich person who is the stupidest, dumbest person you've ever met, but they are rich for whatever reason. And they go, yeah, because they were born into that kind of family and subconsciously they just learned how to deal with money because it was around them. So whatever you, you know, as an actress, if you're born into an acting family, that's just normal. So you start picking all these things up. So it's very, very, those seven years are very, I always say those first seven years are the, you learn and then the rest of your life you figure out how to deprogram yourself from the first seven years. So, so as you're going through, how old were you when you had your near death experience?

[Betty Guadagno]

I was 35.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure, 35. So you, you lived a good amount of life already.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

You lived a good amount of life. And during that time period, what was. What was going on? I mean, obviously you. You started going down the addiction path. How did you deal with that on a psychological level? Did. Did spirituality even peak its head during that time?

[Betty Guadagno]

No. No. Lights out? No. Definitely. Definitely all the way asleep. You know, my. My parents, I watched their addiction really take a hold of them and just start to destroy them. And in 2007, it was the height of the oxycontin epidemic, and my parents were prescribed over a thousand pills each every month, and somehow were always running out of pills. They were facing another eviction. The lights were turned off, the gas was turned off. And they made this decision that they had to end their suffering. They had to stop using. And the only way that they knew how to do that was to do what they saw everybody else in our family do, which was die. And so in 2007, my parents intentionally overdosed together. They ended their lives together. Wow. Yeah, Totally. The worst. I mean, just. You can't even imagine. I was 23 when that happened, and my sister was 18. We found them and they left these little notes written on the kitchen magnet notepad. And it just said, take care of each other, as if a 23 year old and an 18 year old would know how to do that.

[Alex Ferrari]

I just had chills. I'm so sorry.

[Betty Guadagno]

And it was, you know, the. The thing is, is that my addiction stepped in when my parents died and it became my parent. It didn't only become my parent, it became my guiding star. It became my higher power. So I didn't have room for God in my life because addiction was my God.

[Honey German]

Yeah, you had one.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. And it was. It really. It just threw me for a loop. It made me abandon everything in my life. I left my sister. I moved across the country. I said that I couldn't deal. I decided that I was gonna become the perpetrator in people's. I was no longer going to be a victim. I was done being a victim in my life. And I didn't even know that there are other roles to play. I thought that it was only perpetrator and victim. And so I decided to be the abuser. And I abused people. I mean, intentionally, maliciously traumatized other people because I wanted them to hurt as deeply and badly as I hurt.

[Alex Ferrari]

Hurt people. Hurt people.

[Betty Guadagno]

Absolutely. And healed people. Heal people very much.

[Alex Ferrari]

So on the other side, there's balance to everything in this universe. There's balance to everything. So as you're going through this. Before we get to your near death experience, let's just jump into. We're gonna, like, do a Pulp Fiction and jump the narrative a little bit. So we're gonna go all over the place. So before your near death experience, let's just jump. After what you've. You're awakening. Why do you believe that you chose this life, this blueprint, those parents? Because so many people watching and listening, you know, when I say, you know, you chose this. I do this to my kids all the time. When they start fighting with each other, I'll go, well, you chose your sister. I'm like, no, I didn't. My kid. My kid. One of my kids say. She always says, it's just a wheel. It's a wheel of chance. I'm like, so is there a giant cosmic wheel? Well, if there is, then who's pulling it? And she goes, oh, just shut up, dad. Go do your dead people talking. Show love, children. But so. So many people listening. Don't. It really triggers them when you say you chose this life because they're only looking at it from the human perspective, not the soul perspective. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, I don't. You know, I. If someone would have told me that I chose my life, I would have punched them in the face. It would have been lights out. It would have been really bad. But for me today, I know that I chose the life path that I'm on because heaven is really boring, and my soul is this Spanish novella scriptwriter. And she was like, let's do it all while we have a Chancellor scriptwriter. I mean, every storyline that could happen in a person's life has happened in my life.

[Alex Ferrari]

Has your evil twin come back from the dead telling you.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.

[Alex Ferrari]

Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

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[Betty Guadagno]

Wow.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. So. So why did you think so why did you think you did this? Why did you think you went down? This is not an easy path. What you're talking and you've only given me some Cliff notes versions of that. You haven't given me details. I can only imagine how difficult that path is. A path of addiction is horrendous. But it seems like that was just one of the many, many ingredients in your recipe you put together.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

In the Spanish novella scriptwriter, you got on the other side.

[Betty Guadagno]

So you know, the life lesson of addiction is brutal, but it also comes with the dual experience of recovery. So some souls don't get an opportunity to experience both parts of the Lesson like your parents. Like my parents, exactly. So what I do is I heal not only for myself, but for them too. And for the generations and generations in my particular family line, in family lines of people that I'll never know, never encounter. As I take on this intense healing. It's not just for me, it's for the whole collective. And having that idea keeps me going. Cuz if I thought that it was just for me, I might not. I might just give up and say it's too much.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you're saying it's really interesting you're talking now about ancestral drama that is in our bloodlines and that we carry those things along so there could be generations of abuse, generations of addiction. And it takes one soul to break the cycle. And when they do, it does ripple even on a small standpoint. Like what you're talking about. I heard that once a person becomes enlightened, they, they just erase karma for like, I mean, how many generations forward and backwards. I heard. This is something I heard from the Vedic test. So you're doing something similar. And if it's not even as grandiose as like when Jesus did it or something like that, it does stop it. And the next generation can come in without having to deal with it. Very Bruce Lee, the dragon kind of thing.

[Betty Guadagno]

You know what, these are all stories, right? So this is the story that I tell myself because it makes my human experience a joyful one. So if somebody thinks another kind of narrative. Correct, they're allowed to have that narrative too. This is what makes me feel like I have purpose here. And that's why I stay centered in spiritual awareness, spiritual principles, recovery, open mindedness is to be. I want to be the ancestor that people in my family pray to one day and say, oof, I need Aunt Betty's help, you know?

[Alex Ferrari]

Do you think because something you said, stories. And since I've been a storyteller most of my life, the one thing I keep hearing and seeing again and again is we're all just trying to figure this out. We were kind of dumped on this planet. Essentially. We come out in a very cold, hard way. Generally speaking, unless you have a home birth in warm water, but generally you come in harsh, you come in hot, and you're just trying to figure this out for the rest of your life. You're trying to figure out this reality. And the stories that we tell ourselves and the stories that we believe are our coping mechanisms. Religion is that for us, the way we look at life like you looked at life like, oh, addiction or these Things that my parents are doing. Oh, that's gonna solve my problem. That was a story that was told to you, even if it wasn't directly, but it was a story that you. You started to play in your head and as a destructive story until you change the story. But we're all just trying to figure things out, and stories are the only thing that kind of hold us together without losing our mind. Because this is not easy down here.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. And, you know, that's why in every pantheon, in every mythological family, it's the same narrative that threads through all of them. And this hero's journey, of course, this is it. Like, this is what it's all about. Everybody has an opportunity to hop into their hero's journey. If I can, everybody can. Okay. Like, there's no. I'm not special. This is available to everybody.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Betty Guadagno]

To take a situation and use your pain for purpose, to turn it into power. That's what I. That's what I. The only thing that gets me through this experience.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it's. And I found it so beautiful. You said that, you know, the story I tell myself is that I'm doing this for my generations forward and back, and that's what keeps me going, because if it was just for me, I don't think I would have gone down. Why do you think that? Why do you think that you need the grandiose storyline as opposed to, like, I just need to heal myself. I'm just curious.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. I think because it gives me purpose to something bigger than you think about the fact. I think that most people will help another person before they'll help themselves. Right. The analogy of putting the oxygen mask on yourself first, they have to say that because people would not intentionally do that. That's not our default is to help ourselves. It's to help other people. So it's one of the things that keeps me motivated to keep going. Because when I first came into this journey, I didn't like myself. Why would I want to heal for myself? I don't know who I am. And the person that I was is really a terrible person, and I don't want to be around her. So I had to figure out who I am in spiritual awareness, who this new version of me is that came from my spiritual experience and learned to love her. And it was a process.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's like we're all. We're all.

[Betty Guadagno]

I'm still doing it.

[Alex Ferrari]

We're all still trying to figure out how to love ourselves. It's acts like the greatest power we could have is to Actually truly love ourselves.

[Betty Guadagno]

I want to love myself the way that God loves me. That's my goal every day.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's a T shirt. That's a beautiful saying. You're absolutely right. It's. I want to love myself like God loves me. Oh, God. Because most of us, we're the worst to ourselves. Yeah, we're the worst. I always tell people, like, if you had a friend who talked to you like you talk to yourself, you would punch them in the face. You would run away from them.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, we're brutal. When I first came into recovery, I did this exercise where I wrote a letter to myself as myself, and then I wrote a letter to myself as a friend. And the contrast between these letters was incredible. I mean, the letter to myself as myself was all curse words. It was just like all, like, manic scribbling all over a page. And the letter to myself as a friend was like, you're doing so great. I'm so proud of you. And it was two wildly different aspects. And I think for me, as myself, you know, that's kind of my ego centered thought system. Me treating myself like a friend, that's my spirit centered thought system.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's beautiful. That's beautiful. So, all right, let's go to the day that you died. What happened on that day?

[Betty Guadagno]

On that day, I took too many substances. Who would have thought a drug addict took too many drugs?

[Alex Ferrari]

You were 35.

[Betty Guadagno]

I was 35.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, before you continue. Look, I remember 35. It's not 25.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's not 15 either.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you feel things at a whole other level. And I can imagine the abuse that you've been putting your body through, and you're still, you know, doing that. The body could only take so much.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, I was a hot mess. I mean, I have some before and after pictures. It is you. You would never, ever believe it. It's so incredible. But I. I never gave myself a chance to feel anything. Every day was medicating, all day, every day. There wasn't an hour of reprieve, maybe if I passed out, but that's it. And then it was right back to it the second that your eyes open. And that was how addiction had become for me. It was my whole Persona. I'm covered in tattoos of liquor bottles and packs of cigarettes. Okay. This was my entire personality.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Betty Guadagno]

Was that of a party girl, quote, unquote, an addict? Like, this was my entire life.

[Alex Ferrari]

How did you have to before we get to the near death? Because I'm really fascinated and I really hope this helps people watching. How did you function? I did say, like, how do you, like, have a job?

[Betty Guadagno]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

How do you get so you.

[Betty Guadagno]

I was a prostitute. I. I ended up at. At first it was fun. Then it was fun with problems, and then it was just problems. That's the progression of the dis. Ease of addiction. Wow. So, you know, at first, I had jobs, I had an apartment, I had husbands, I had pets, I had clothes. I had friends. And then slowly but surely, all of those things faded out of my life. And then I could. Was no longer employable, and I had to start doing depraved things to make money so that I could keep my addiction going, because that was the most important thing in my life.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's how it is.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, so to the day you died.

[Betty Guadagno]

Okay, so the day I die. So it was on March 23, 2019, which is actually the beginning of the season of Aries, which is a symbol of rebirth. And it's. It's right around the spring solstice. And this was an epic rebirth. I took too much because I was gonna go do my laundry, and I was like, I better be real wavy to go do this because laundry's rough. Yeah. And I. I ended up overdosing, and I had this incredibly contrasted experience in my overdose. The first part of it was a life review. And like I said, I was a traumatized person who was intentionally traumatizing other people.

[Alex Ferrari]

I was waiting for this.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes. My life review was not nice. It was not a good time. It was brutal. It was agonizing. I started to experience the pain that I inflicted on others from their point of view. And it was emotional pain that I was feeling, too. Not just the physical things that I had done to people, like lied, cheated, steal, like, stolen from, beaten. You know, all of this physical stuff, the emotional pain and turmoil, like, it felt like I had ripped a piece of their soul apart. And so that was what I was experiencing. And then I started to experience what felt like a collective life review. I was experiencing all the experiences that have ever happened on earth.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Betty Guadagno]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 360.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

Because I was experiencing things that had not happened in this physical lifetime for me. Like I experienced childbirth. But I'm not a person who's had a child. I experienced the death of my child. Again, not a person who's had a child. My awareness is going into all of these other life experiences today. I have some awareness that those I'VE had past lives like that. And so it was kind of coming to me like that. But I was also seeing it from people's perspectives in my family. So when I had this experience of my child dying, I was in the awareness of my aunt, who. My cousin died. And so I was experiencing her pain. I was seeing her face, feeling her agony. And then I started to experience my parents suicide from their point of view, as well as my point of view as a grieving daughter. But from their point of view, the pain, the ocean of anguish that I was drowning in, it felt like every cell in my body was covered in spikes and static and concrete, and I was being shredded apart. And in that moment, I thought, okay, I must be dead because I'm seeing all these dead people and I'm. I'm dead. And this is it. And this sucks. This is not what I expected.

[Alex Ferrari]

So before we. Keep going. So did you just. When you overdosed, did you just pop into a life review or was there a tunnel of light? Was there darkness? What was it?

[Betty Guadagno]

It was. It was like a. It was an. It's. I fell on my bathroom floor and I just started to feel the feelings, and it took me years to piece together that it was a life review. I just used to say, you know, I saw my parents, and that's how I knew I was dead, because I saw my dead parents. But, you know, the amount of emotions that I was experiencing was every emotion that you could ever have in the Earth experience.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's interesting. I've not heard of a life review that you started to see other life experiences, and they weren't you in another life or another timeline. It was through other people's.

[Betty Guadagno]

In your.

[Alex Ferrari]

In your world or people that were not in your world?

[Betty Guadagno]

Both, you know, and I have some language for it today. I was experiencing a spontaneous Kundalini awakening.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, Jesus.

[Betty Guadagno]

So if anybody doesn't know, Kundalini roughly translates into life force. So I was having this life force energy activation. I was experiencing all of life, not just my life, every life. And it was. I mean, it wasn't the most intense thing ever. And I had a unity experience. And it was as if my soul was going up and down the scale of consciousness. I was experiencing grief and apathy and loss and anger and betrayal and then going into acceptance and willingness and unconditional love. But it was just rapid firing up and down.

[Alex Ferrari]

God, it's like they threw you in a washing machine.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah. It was brutal.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right, so you're. So you're watching the life Review. And it's more of a feeling than it is like a room.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because there's. There's some nd ears that walked into a room and there's a spirit guide next to them. And they're like, here, let's take a look at your life review. You weren't that.

[Betty Guadagno]

So the way that I perceive it is that everything that I was constructing was coming from my mind's eye. The space where I was had no physical features to it, but my mind's eye was constructing spaces within it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Got it. But. So were you dead or were you not dead yet?

[Betty Guadagno]

I don't know if I actually died because nobody ever pronounced me dead. This is all just like me strung out on my bathroom floor.

[Alex Ferrari]

Fair enough.

[Betty Guadagno]

So.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you could have od. Well, you did od.

[Betty Guadagno]

I mean, a part of me died if I didn't physically die.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right, exactly. So you're going through all of this. So then what happens after the life review? Which, by the way, it sounds horrific, but there was positive stuff. So you were going up and down. A lot of people, when I tell them about the Life review, they're terrified of it because they feel it's judgment. Did you feel judged or did you just feel like this is what it was?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. There's no such thing as condemnation. There's no such thing as judgment. It's me judging me. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which is the worst?

[Betty Guadagno]

Which is I'm the one, the worst judge. So it was just me judging me or, you know, maybe the way that society would judge those things. What? My conditioning was judging the experiences, but I was also feeling the emotion. So it wasn't really about judgment. It was about truth. This is the way that I made other people feel.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. There's no BS around this. It's like just. It's like I hurt this person. This is how it feels.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

As opposed to like someone telling you you really hurt Johnny's feelings. You know, you felt what Johnny was feeling.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then. All right, so after you go through this, you know, up and down roller coaster of a Kundalini awakening all at once, what happened next?

[Betty Guadagno]

So while I was in that space of my parents death, I gave up. This is it. This is what life is now. And then I started to hear my father's voice and he was chanting, you are worthy of all the love in the universe. You are worthy of all the love in the universe.

[Alex Ferrari]

It was his voice.

[Betty Guadagno]

It was him. Yeah. And so I. And then it kind of morphed into every masculine man that I've ever had in my life. And I started to follow those voices because I trusted them, because I. I knew my dad's voice. And as I was following that, that was when I traveled into the light and I started to have a very different experience than the life review, which was very welcome.

[Alex Ferrari]

So I wanted to stop you there for a second. So your life review, I've not heard this before and I've heard a few of these. You're. You had to come in through this door essentially for you to even, like. It's not like you went into the light and then you saw Aunt Betty or Jenny's there and everyone's there. And then you have a life review. No, you had to like, get in. We had to shake you up a lot. And then you came into the light. It's. Do you believe that every and every near death experience is custom built for the soul and where they are in their life?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, I think that we all have our own editing team.

[Alex Ferrari]

Hopefully they're not telenovela writers like yours.

[Betty Guadagno]

So I don't think that it's one size fits all. I mean, you know that from interviewing so many experiencers. There is no, there's no, there's no one size fits all when it comes to this. There are some common themes that pop.

[Alex Ferrari]

Up like a life review tunnel of light. They're themes, sure. Yeah. Jesus sometimes shows up. Buddha sometimes shows up. Sometimes it's, you know, it's your dad, sometimes it's your dog.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

It's all that stuff. All right, so you're going towards the light.

[Betty Guadagno]

Okay, so I go into the light. And so everything looked a lot like a video game in my light experience. And that could be because of the generation that I'm born in or because we're living in a simulation. I mean, obviously, maybe it's some combination of.

[Alex Ferrari]

Call the Matrix. Come on. Neil will be here any day.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yep. So. So I end up on what felt like the deck of a spaceship. And there was thousands of other souls around me. I just don't have any better language for it. It actually looked like the inside of the Gravitron from carnivals. Do you remember that? Looks like a spaceship spins really fast. I came out of the side of one of those walls, and then in the center there was this commander. It felt like a commander to an army. And there was thousands of souls all around me. And you can call that commander Christ or Krishna or Buddha.

[Alex Ferrari]

There was a consciousness.

[Betty Guadagno]

There was a higher consciousness. Loving, accepting, leading, secure. And all these souls, we're all jazzed like we are pumped, and our commander is telling us that we are the most special volunteers and we have decided to jump to Earth for the transformation of consciousness. And everybody is cheering and everybody's so excited. And, you know, I have no idea what's going on, but I know that I am part of this. And I feel the connection to all the other souls around me.

[Alex Ferrari]

All right.

[Betty Guadagno]

My awareness quickly shifts over to another scene, and I find myself in front of a table of beings. And it was like this really crappy, plastic, like, banquet hall table. Nothing ornate, nothing beautiful. And there was these beings behind the table. And I didn't ask them who they were because I didn't need to, because I knew that they were people in charge. I didn't have to ask them who they were. I don't know if they're in charge of everything that is or just me, but they had this big giant book, and they were thumbing through it and looking at me and looking at the book and saying, it's really nice to see you. You're not meant to stay. You're only here for information. And I'm like, looking all around me. I'm like, you guys aren't talking to me, are you? Because I don't know where I am, but I'm staying. This place feels awesome where I just was not awesome. This place. Yes, I want to stay here. And they just continue to look through the book and they said, you're here for information. And my awareness shifts to another scene and I find myself with a man. He was again, like a video game, so this kind of like npc. And he's guiding me. He's wearing a plaid blazer and a fedora. He has this big, giant, empty grocery cart. And he says, okay, let's pick your life. And so I start, supermarket sweep style, running through the aisles of a grocery store and lining the walls of the grocery store aisles where these big, huge, family sized cereal boxes. And every cereal box has a life experience on it. And so my soul is like, let's do it. We're going to Earth. Great awakening, here we come. Transformation of consciousness. And just starts grabbing everything. Now, my family line had already been decided because there were certain experiences that I needed to have inside the time.

[Alex Ferrari]

But you were already in the life. It's not like you're a fresh soul coming into your life.

[Betty Guadagno]

No, I'm seeing my pre birth planning, so I'm seeing all of what's happening before I jump to earth. This is all what's taking place.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, so you saw the Pre birth. Yes, the pre birth experience.

[Betty Guadagno]

This is my pre birth experience with the cereal boxes, which is good foreshadowing because I ate a lot of cereal.

[Alex Ferrari]

As a kid, obviously. Obviously.

[Betty Guadagno]

So I start grabbing all of these cereal boxes and I'm grabbing things that one soul has no business taking on all this cereal. Nobody can eat all this food in one lifetime. Like addiction and poverty and, you know, sexual trauma. I got the variety pack of that one. Give it all to me.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Wilmar Valderrama]

This live check in is brought to you by State Farm. Okay, real talk. I'm about to become a dad again. And wow, it hits different the second time. Hi, I'm Umar Valderrama and I've done, you know, I've done the red carpets, the long days on set and all that. But nothing prepares you for that moment when you're building a crib and you realize you're building a future. Familia is everything to me. The laughs, the chaos, the unconditional love. But also the pressure. La responsabilidad. If you're stepping into something big right now, starting a family, getting engaged, moving cities, you're not alone. Take one step at a time. Why breathe? Be present and lean into the people. They've got your back. It is fruta like a good neighbor. State Farm is there.

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 million is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

And the one, the one experience that I think is really profound, that I like to share about is that I did choose this experience of childhood sexual trauma. I grabbed the cereal box box and when I pulled the cereal box out, a little orb of light came out with the box. And that orb of light was the soul of the man that molested me as a small child. And we came orb to orb with each other and we came into contract. And I saw all the reasons why. One of the main reasons being that in a previous lifetime I had been his abuser and we were balancing our energy with each other. I also saw that we loved each other so much and that's why we were going to play these roles to each other. That he was going to be the villain for me in this lifetime, my perpetrator. And I also saw that because I was coming to earth for the great awakening, that particular life experience wasn't just about me. It was about healing for every little girl and boy who doesn't get an opportunity to heal from their childhood sexual trauma. And so I was taking this on with the intention that as I heal, everyone around me heals. I ripple it out into the universe. And so this experience, this knowledge just cracked me out of my victim mentality. It felt like a whole shell had come off of me. Two tons of garbage had been released from my spirit. I'm not a victim. I'm a divine co creator. I have co created my experience with the divine. And so I find myself back in front of the table of beings. I'm crying out in gratitude. I'm on my knees and this is so incredible. I'm so grateful to have this information. Earth is still a dumpster fire though. I'm definitely not going back. But I feel so much better now that I know this, this great awakening show. It's gonna be lit. I'm gonna watch it from up here. I'm gonna grab my PJs and a bowl of popcorn and I'm gonna chill with you guys. And they were like, no, girl, you're going back. And I transformed into a small child, like, hitting my hands and my feet. Figurative hands and feet. There's no body there, but, like, just throwing a tantrum. I will not go back. You cannot make me go back. Do not make me go back. And then I cried out, you guys, don't tell us what Earth is actually like. And they said, you say that every time you come back home. Like, literally every time you come back here. They said, you're not going back as a punishment. You're going back because you've been training for lifetime times for this particular lifetime. This is a mission that you're on, and we're not going to let you miss your opportunity. This is the most exciting time to be on Earth. Every soul that is here is here for the transformation of consciousness. And I said, well, I can't go back into her. And I could see my body outside myself just like blasted out on my bathroom floor. I was like, look at her, She's a mess. She's glitched, she's broken. She needs way too much healing. It would be impossible to accomplish. I can't go back into her. And they said, okay, you don't have to go back into her. I will show you the baby that you'll be born into because you're going back. There's no other option. And so I could kind of perceive my grocery cart getting shoved over to the side. My. My life experience grocery cart. And then again, like a video game, a little avatar of a baby popped up. It was like slowly circling 360 degrees. And I saw all her stats line up next to her. Her gender, her ethnicity, where she would be born, who her parents were, what was her adversity, you know, her purpose, parts of her mission. And this baby was going to have an even more challenging life than my own. And I thought, I can't do this from zero if these are really my only options to go back into that glitched, broken body that I just came from or start over, I'm just going to go back into the body that I came from. And the Beings of light were very loving. And they said to me, listen, the first part of your life was boot camp. Nobody likes boot camp. There's like a bald guy screaming in your face. You're doing a thousand push ups in the mud. It's gross. The second part of your life is going to be carrying out your mission. You're going to have a team. You're going to have soul mates, kindred spirits, mentors, teachers, communities. It's going to be so much better. You won't even be able to understand. Just trust us. And I was like, I do not trust you guys. Peace. And then I found myself back in my awareness. I found myself back in my body and I just wrote the whole thing off as drug induced psychosis. I kind of sat up, shook my head. I was like, damn, I was so high. I thought I was talking to God. That was crazy. And I just went about my life doing the same thing I'd always been doing.

[Alex Ferrari]

So. All right, before we continue down that road, when you were, when you were up there with the spirit guides that you don't trust and you're like, like Audi, I love your storytelling ability with. This is awesome. And only someone of our generation kind of understand a lot of the things that you're saying, which is awesome. When you were up in that room with the, the cheap, the production value was not good up there. Apparently the budget, budgetary cuts on the.

[Betty Guadagno]

Other side, using so much for the storyline. They can't be happy, they can't be.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, look, let's just unfold this. She's coming. Oh, God. You see that? You see the light being, bringing out the pla. All right. Did we get this one at Costco? Okay, great, let's.

[Betty Guadagno]

I love that so much.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's awesome. When you were up there, did you. So there's no talking. So it's all telepathy essentially.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

And the thing I've heard so many different times, not only from near death experiencers, but from mystics, from yogis and things like that, is that there's an understanding that you just know what's happening without anyone telling you. Like you're like, I call it kind of like you're tapped into the cloud. No pun intended. You're kind of tapped into the cloud and you just have all information all the time and when something's in front of you, you just, oh, that's Uncle Bob and Bob's here to help me walk through this or something like that. Is that how it was?

[Betty Guadagno]

Definitely. Everything was innate knowing. Because I'm not smart enough to put all that together. So it definitely was innate knowing. At this time, my brain capacity was super tiny. So it was all a very innate knowing and no need to question it was the other part of it. Like I knew those, I knew the beings of light were in charge. I didn't have to question why or who or how or anything like that. These were just all things that I had massive acceptance around.

[Alex Ferrari]

So these were basically your counsel? Yeah, it sounds like this. From what I say, it's kind of like your council of light. It's your elders. Council of elders, yes. They're the ones that kind of your spirit guides who kind of put together your. Your journey to go down and elevate your consciousness and stuff, which is not easy.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So that's who these guys were. Yeah, yeah, it sounds like that's. It's not one. They're not the. Everybody's. They seem like they were yours. Yes, because they're talking to you very much. Like they were like every time you come.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, yeah, they were very funny, for sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

Did you. So did you see any relatives? You only heard relative.

[Betty Guadagno]

I. My father's essence was definitely there with me. And like I said, it felt like every masculine energy. So all the other men in my family that had passed away, they kind of all morphed into it. I had a boyfriend who had passed away a couple years before my experience, he was there. And so all of these things kind of just gelled into this divine masculine energy.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's interesting. So it's not because for us, we have to have like these individual kind of things, but it's the collective speaking through one.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a very divine thing. Like when angels, like all. You know, we're. When I have channelers. Come on. They're like, we have 20 angels here who shall not be named. But we. We all speak as one.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Similar. Right?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. The law of oneness is real. Like, we're one. Every. Everything is one.

[Alex Ferrari]

It makes sense. It makes logical sense to me. Okay, so you come back down and you're like, that was funky. Thought I'd talk to God. Okay, well, let me go get high again. Like, essentially. Was that what it is?

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah, Absolutely. Well, the first thing I did was I went on Instagram and I was like, guys, I just died. It was crazy. I still have the video. It's nuts.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's amazing.

[Betty Guadagno]

But I did just think that it was drug induced psychosis. I had never heard of any of these things before. I had never heard of spiritual awakening. I had never heard of. Heard of a Kundalini. I didn't even know how to say that word for years. I didn't. I'd never heard of a near death experience, so I didn't think that any of this was real. In fact, I thought that I had just actually died and that I wasn't deserving enough to actually cross over. And so for months after my experience, I just lived with reckless abandon. I mean, I was already living quite recklessly. But the two months in between when I. Until I realized that it was a real experience, I was just completely off the handles. Totally.

[Alex Ferrari]

Really?

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah. I was nuts. Totally nuts.

[Alex Ferrari]

And did you ever come close again in those two months to go back?

[Betty Guadagno]

No, no. No.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, were you that you didn't go that far out?

[Betty Guadagno]

You know, I had overdosed in my life before and I never had a spiritual experience. This particular one was my. I mean, it was planned.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, yeah. This was your. Do you believe that this was one of your exit. Exit strategies for your life? Because from what I understand, on your soul plan or your. And your blueprint in the highway of life, there's these off ramps that you've put in to go. Okay, you're going to need a reminder here. And you're going to have a choice. Do you want to come back or do you want to go. Go to another life or something like that? Is that what that was?

[Betty Guadagno]

Well, I did not have a choice.

[Alex Ferrari]

No. But that was a moment for you to.

[Betty Guadagno]

So for me, this is the way that I understand it. There's three things. Pre birth planning is about major plot points, right? I haven't planned every bowel movement I don't know, every stranger I'll encounter on the subway.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you for the imagery.

[Betty Guadagno]

But I have, I have have planned major plot points. Three of my major plot points are addiction recovery, spiritual awakening.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 20 million is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365.

[Betty Guadagno]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

Now I had lots of opportunities to let go of the lesson of addiction and step into recovery and spiritual awakening. First time I ever went to rehab, I was 18 years old. Old. I could have just decided to get clean. Then I would have been in recovery, learning that lesson. Had a spiritual awakening as a result of practicing the 12 steps. Because that's the promise of the 12th step and 12 step fellowship. And my life would have looked much different. This was my end timeline. No points left. All of my lessons compounded on top of each other. Now you will experience addiction, recovery, spiritual awakening all in the same moment. Because you kept ignoring the internal GPS that was telling you to make a U turn and stop moving the car.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, that's. It starts with a tap on the shoulder, a whisper, and then it's a sledgehammer, right?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes. The bucket of spiritual bricks that was dumped on my head. Brutal. Brutal.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's amazing. All right, so after. So during those two months of going crazy.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

When you what, what was the moment that you just said, oh, yeah.

[Betty Guadagno]

There was a couple of different moments. One of the main ones was that the universe was removing people from my life. So I had a bunch of dealers, like a laundry list of them, maybe 10 different guys. And I would call one up. I'd be like, hey, I want to pick up. Can I meet you? And he's like, listen, lose my number. I found Jesus. I want to be a good father. I'm out of the game. Click. Blocked. I'm like, okay, that's weird. Call up the next guy on the list. Same exact story, but these guys didn't know each other. I'm like, where has Jesus been hiding? How are all of these men finding Jesus? What's going on? I'm talking. I called 10 different guys, and every single one of them told me to lose their number, and they blocked me. And I. So now I'm desperate because I have a physical dependency to opiates, and so I need to get my. I need to get what I need, otherwise I'm going to get violently ill. So I'm, like, running around New York City. Obviously, there's places to buy substances everywhere, and I'm doing what I have to do. Every time I get something, it's fake, it's bonk. It doesn't work. Like, every. I'm. You know, I'm at my end. So now I start going through withdrawals, and it's agonizing. And I had been through withdrawals dozens of times in my life before, but like you said, right? 35, no spring chicken. Now I'm really feeling it. And I have this moment of just, I need to end this. I need to end this pain. There's no way to get through this. I was on day three of withdrawal, and it was like I was sick all over myself. My skin felt like it was made of broken glass. My bones were made of campfire logs. My blood was lava. Like, everything hurt on me. Every. Everything hurt. And I just thought, I can't do this. I know exactly what my parents were going through. I cannot do this. This. And then I heard this voice, and it told me that I could request what I wanted fixed. And I was in the throes of desperation, so I was like, okay, strange voice. Take this away. I want to no longer be physically sick. And they told me to close my eyes and count backwards from 10. And as I did, these two little men appeared in my mind's eye. And they were wearing white lab coats, and they had these bulbous noses. I see them every time I tell the story. They're like, hey, we're still here. And they had these little lawn mowers that manifested in front of them. And so they're kind of like hopping up and down with the motion of the lawnmower. And then they take off in separate directions, and they start walking through every crevice of my mind. And as they're plowing through the crevices of my mind, I feel these intense, hot tingles start to take over the whole crown of my head. And when they were finished, it felt like somebody drew X's across my forehead and a plunger went onto the crown of my head. And as it plunged down and came back up, there was this bright white flash. And in that moment, I was instantaneously healed out of day three of heroin withdrawal. I mean, moments before, I was sick all over myself, welcoming death. And then there I was, completely well and healed and fine, and I threw myself out of the bed and onto the ground. I'm on my knees. I'm crying out to a God that I do not believe in. And I'm saying, how could this be happening? I don't believe in this. I don't believe in you. You could not have picked a more unworthy subject to bestow this kind of grace on. And again, for the contrast, at this point in time, I'm a radical atheist still. I'm a. Oh, yeah, I'm a drug addict. I'm an orphan to suicide. I'm a liar, manipulator, thief. I'm an abuser. I'm a person who traumatizes others. This is the person that has been bestowed with. With instantaneous healing. And then all of a sudden, I start hearing this message, because I keep telling and affirming, I'm not worthy of this. I'm not worthy of this. And they say to me, but you're worthy of all the love in the universe. You're worthy of all the love in the universe. And so after that, I thought I was the second coming of Christ, obviously. So I start running around the streets of New York City on the New York City subway system. I'm proselytizing, I'm evangelizing. I'm telling people about a God that I have.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you've gone to the other side.

[Betty Guadagno]

All the way. All the way to the other side.

[Alex Ferrari]

I don't believe in anything. I am now Jesus.

[Betty Guadagno]

I am now Jesus. I. I thought it as.

[Alex Ferrari]

As they say in our generation, girl, you crazy.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. Yeah, it was. I was cuckoo bananas. I was really out of control. So I'm on the New York City subway system. I'm laying hands on homeless drug addicts. No, you're not. Oh, yes, I am. All the way. I'm in. I'm in.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're laying hands? Yes. Oh, my God.

[Betty Guadagno]

Okay. It was wild. I was. Yeah, it was wild. So one day, I'm sitting on the train. The whole train car is empty. But it's the middle of the day, which is bizarre in New York City.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's extremely bizarre.

[Betty Guadagno]

There's 9 million people there. I was nobody in this train car.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Betty Guadagno]

So the door is open and a man steps inside, and he sits directly across from me, even though the whole train car was empty. And around his neck was a gigantic blinged out 12 step fellowship necklace. The emblem for the 12 step fellowship that I'm a part of.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, the 12 step, is that. Is that AA, right?

[Betty Guadagno]

We don't promote, so we don't say what it is, but I'm in the other one.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, got it, got it. Yeah. Layman.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes, yes, yes. So he's got this big blinged out necklace. I hear a voice in my head. It says, that's your path. Follow him to a meeting. And so I asked, ask this strange man on the train, when there's nobody else on. Nobody else on the train, are you. Are you going to a meeting by any chance? And he says, yeah, I am. Do you want to come with me? And that was the beginning of my recovery journey. And I went with this strange man. I followed him to a meeting, and they told me that I had to keep making meetings every day, that this was going to be my new thing. Instead of using every day, I was going to make meetings every day. So the next day, go to another meeting. And I didn't look the way that I look now. When all of this was happening, when all of this was happening, I was missing most of my teeth. So thankful for spiritual awakening, allowing me to buy some teeth in my life. I was super skinny. My skin was gray, my eyes were dead. I had these huge holes all over my face and my arms because every time that I got high, I thought that bugs lived inside of me. And so I would cut myself open with razor blades and burn myself with torches, trying to get the bugs out of me. So I walk into this meeting, and it was a women's meeting, and I look destroyed. It's painfully obvious that I'm new. And this woman grabs me as soon as I walk in, and she held me so tight. And I hadn't been Hugged in a loving way in a really long time. And so I felt really uncomfortable. And then she leaned in and she whispered in my ear, and she said, you are worthy of all the love in the universe. You are worthy of all the love in the universe.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, my God.

[Betty Guadagno]

And that was my deepest moment of surrender. That was it. I melted into that woman. I cried a super ugly, deep, wailing cry. I rested my head on her big boobies for as long as she would let me. And I truly surrendered. And I didn't feel worthy of all the love in the universe, but I had a little sliver of hope. Maybe I'm worth more than what's going on in my life right now. And so the next day after that, I went to another meeting. And it was a huge meeting. There was like 80 people in there. And I swear to God, it was like the Truman Show. Like, everybody was sharing directly to me. They didn't. I mean, they weren't. They didn't even know I was there. But it felt like every share was a message from God to my ears. And then I realized that there was a woman in there, and she was the program director of a long term rehab, a women's facility. And so the whole meeting, my internal guidance is saying, you have to ask her for help. You have to ask her for help. And my ego is coming in and saying, like, no, you're not built that way. You can't ask people for help. Like, just forget about it. And so I'm having this internal wrestling match going on between my spirit and my ego. And so I finally get my courage up, the meeting ends, and I walk over where this woman is, and I was like, I'm gonna live a new life, and she's gonna help me do it. I know it. And I walk over to where she is and she's gone. Gone. She left early. And I felt totally defeated and deflated. And so with my head hanging, I walked to the bus to go home. And when I stepped onto the bus, that woman was sitting right there.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, my.

[Betty Guadagno]

Okay. She left the meeting early and was somehow on the exact same bus as me. And I ran up to her, totally manic, and I was like, oh, my God, I think that you're an angel. You're sent. You're sent from heaven. You're here on earth. You're here only to help me. I can't believe it. So I want to talk to you in there, but of course I couldn't to you in there because you're here. And this is nuts. I can't believe it. Oh, my God. Will you help me, please? I think that you're supposed to help me. Wow.

[Alex Ferrari]

Coming in hot.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Coming in hot, are you?

[Betty Guadagno]

She looked at me so calm like. And like she had been waiting there for me her whole life.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Honey German]

This mood check is brought to you by State Farm. Honey, German. Checking in. Contigo. Take a second. Literal mente un momentico para t. How's your corazon feeling today? If it's a little tired, a little. Oof. You're not alone. Have you eaten Algorico? Taken a deep breath, maybe even turned off your phone for cinco minutitos. I promise the memes will still be there. Sometimes self care isn't candles and meditation. It's just saying no. It's drinking a little bit of agua. It's letting yourself rest. Simpena, you don't have to prove anything today. Just be. Breathe. Estas haciendo lo mejor que puedes. And yes, that's enough. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items. To keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th, earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard raw sugar free Dove Soft soap and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.

[Alex Ferrari]

Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Betty Guadagno]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

And she said, yeah, we can help you. We have a bed. Come by tomorrow. And that sentence changed my whole life. And I did go there the very next day with just the clothes on my back. I didn't have anything to take. My most prized possession was a 200 vibrator. I didn't have a lot going for me. I figured if I could leave that behind, I could do anything. And so I did. I left it behind. And I started my spiritual journey.

[Alex Ferrari]

As one does. You don't bring those along, right? Spiritual journey. It's counterproductive.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes. And I. I went into this all women's facility and. And that's where my integration started to take place. I didn't know what happened to me. And it was a long term program. I was in there for 17 months. Wow. Yeah. And despite what some men might think, it's not sexy pajama parties and pillow fights in an all women's drug rehab. It's brutal. Okay. It was hardcore. Hardcore. Oh, God.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Betty Guadagno]

And I got to see all my trauma mirrored back to me. And I got to see all of my own defects of character and the way that I behaved in relationships with other people. And I learned a lot. So much. I didn't have access to a cell phone or the Internet for all that time. So I had to learn things out of books. It was totally archaic. I was like, I know. Have you heard? Book Ridiculous. So they would let us go to the library once a week and. And I would just run over to the section on religion and spirituality. And I had this entire insatiable thirst for knowledge. My brain capacity before my experience, very limited. Okay. The only vocabulary that I had was this long laundry list of substances that I used and how much money it cost to be with me. I didn't have space in my head for any other thoughts because there was no need for any other thoughts. So now my awareness is blasted open and I want to fill it with spirituality. I want to figure out what. What's the meaning of life? Tell me everything about quantum mechanics. Let me learn. So I start grabbing all these books off of this one small section in the library. And one day I went into the library and there was a book and it looked like it was sparkling. I could see it in the distance. It almost looked like it was about to fall off the shelf. And all I could see was the word miracles on the side. And I was like, miracles. I like miracles. I'm a miracle. And I got a little bit closer. And then a book was called A Course in Miracles Made Easy by Alan Cohen.

[Alex Ferrari]

I know, she's a sweet man.

[Betty Guadagno]

And I devoured that book. I would have actually physically ate it if I could have. I. I couldn't stop myself. And I didn't understand, really who the author of A Course in Miracles was. And so I kept going to the library and asking the librarian to help me. And she was like, girl, this book does not exist. Please stop. We don't. We can't. You can't rent it here. And I'm like, I need it. I need this book. And. And so I just started reading a bunch of books about a course in miracles. And then one day when I was going back to the facility, the clinical director was checking my bag, like, for contraband. When you come back, you get your bag checked. And she saw I had five books about a course in miracles in my bag. And she said, oh, you know, I have a copy of the course. I bought it in the 70s, didn't understand it. It's been sitting on my bookshelf for all these years. Do you want to borrow it? And I was like, yes, I absolutely do. And so while I was in treatment for those 17 months, I read A Course in Miracles. And I also read every other spiritual text that I could get my hands on. And I designed my spirituality around these beautiful spiritual principles. I got to cherry pick the things that I liked out of each teaching and develop my own sense of spirituality.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like a spiritual cafeteria.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah, It's a little smorgasbord of pulling things out.

[Alex Ferrari]

You said something was really interesting to me. Your ego. That's not talked about a whole lot with near death experiences. The ego, especially because you had. I mean, your story is so intense. So generally other people are like, you know, I was in the wrong path, and then I died. And then I, you know, found God and I was cool. Yours was so much more intense. The range is so much more. That your ego had built 35 years of this is who I am. And then after you started laying hands on homeless people, which was also the ego, by the way, going, oh, we're Jesus now. I can get behind this. Let's do this. How did you deal with that inner struggle, that inner fight? Because the, your ego sounds like it was an intense presence after 35 years of addiction and all the trauma you dealt with, with that it's there to protect you, it's there to do things because that's all it knows. Your ego's there always to protect you. Sometimes it goes a little overboard, but generally speaking, it's built to do that. How did you kind of overcome that to become who you are right now?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. You know, and ego is like such a buzzword. Right. So I also study Jungian philosophy and in, in that, you know, Jung talks about all these different stages that we have as we come to earth. Right. So there was a stage of the masks, like that's my early childhood, my teenage years. Then my shadow came in. My shadow really took charge, especially after my parents death. That was the part of me so like my shadow, my ego, all these words are really interchangeable. Something not my spirit. Right. Something not my highest self. And then the other part of that is coming into the anima and the animus, like the divine feminine, divine masculine in the info philosophy and then circling back up to the highest self with the capital S. So for me, my shadow was my main personality point my whole life. And it's not like my shadow disappears because I had some kind of spiritual experience. My shadow is my main protector. It's all that I've ever known. So I have to learn how to give it a new role. I have to give it a new job because it's not going to go away. It exists within me and I'm not a murderer. I can't kill it. So I just have to learn how to give it a new role. So there's a lot of things that make up my shadow for me. My addiction is one of the main parts of it. So what I like to do is I do character development around my shadow pieces. So my addiction has its own name and shape and face. He's a man. He's a gay man. His name's Richard. He thinks he's so fun and fabulous, but he's a mess. So Richard lives inside of a glass house inside my mind. And he kind of puts his mouth up to the creases of the house and he'll scream, let's have a drink. Let's have some fun. And I'm like, no, Richard, we don't drink anymore. And you know, I have to like have my highest self come in and offer him compassion because again, I can't kill him. If I ignore him, he'll just get louder and louder. And louder. And so I do all of this work to compartmentalize myself so that I can see which part of me is trying to communicate, which part is trying to protect me. Why does it think it needs to. To protect me? So, you know, even my addiction splintered off into other addictions, right? Like, I let go of substances, and then all of my eating disorders came to the surface. And then I start to get my eating disorders under control, and then porn and masturbating addiction comes up, and then codependency and then limerence. Person obsession. That one's my favorite. Love. Getting obsessed with people who don't know that I exist, right? And so there's this whole array of things going on. My inner saboteur, my inner controller, my. My inner critic. Like, all of this stuff is going on inside of my world, and my spirit wants to experience all of it. Because without that contrast, I don't know how great it is to remember who I actually am. If I don't have my addiction running the show for so many years of my life, how can I appreciate God the way that I do today? I mean, maybe I could have, but I wouldn't give my story back for anything. I mean, lots of twists and turns, lots of trauma, but now it's all centered in triumph. You know, like, the ability to overcome the human spirit is so resilient. And I know that if that's accessible to me, it's accessible to everyone.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's the beautiful thing about your story, Betty, is that, you know, you are an extreme story. There's no question.

[Betty Guadagno]

Spanish novella.

[Alex Ferrari]

Spanish novella. Who is on some substances, The Spanish novella writer who's doing stuff. There's no question. So you have such an intense story, and this. This concept of worthiness is so powerful because most of us don't believe we're worthy about. Of anything, let alone love, let alone success, let alone, you know, a good partner, anything like that. So I've seen that that is a common thread. It was for me for a long time. I still struggle with it. You know, I still struggle doing this show. I'm like, really? Me. Like, I still. It. The programming is very ingrained in that, and I didn't have a tremendous amount of abuse when I was a kid or anything like that. That. That caused that. But. But to overcome. To overcome that in your life, and you are a shining example of that for people who, like. And not to say this in a bad way, like, well, she. Like you said it. If she can do it, you know, I mean, I had a tough situation, but geez, man. Yeah, you're like a. You're like a. Not even a cautionary tale, because it's not a cautionary tale. It's an example of what could happen, what you could become. Kind of like. And don't take this the wrong way, Jesus, please don't lay hands on me. But the way Jesus was an example of all of us, or any of these Ascended Masters were examples of what we can become. We are all capable of it. But not all of them went the road you went on. And it's a shining example of what a soul can do in this life.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. You know, we are meant to transform.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I Saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion. Wonderful. 20 million is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting for to take your call. 24, 7, 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

I didn't know that I was. I thought that I was meant to be an earth dwelling caterpillar my whole life. Just this little dirty grub running through the mud. I didn't even know that you can become a butterfly. And I often think this about actual caterpillars. Do they know? Do they know what they're going to be one day? Are they meant to know? Is it supposed to be a surprise? Because my transformation journey, my metamorphosis has been the most exciting thing in my life. And it continues. It continues. I'm, it's, I'm not done. I'm ever evolving and I have backslides. I'm not saying that like I'm perfect. I've never used substances again, thank you God. But like I said, I have other behaviors and I'm not trying to pretend like I'm perfect. You know, I am only trying to be, I'm not trying to be better than anybody else. I'm only trying to be better than who I used to be. And every day I have an opportunity.

[Alex Ferrari]

To do that that's very, very powerful after this whole experience. Well, let me ask you, did you. Because a lot of people have near death experiences, bring back some sort of abilities or powers and obviously you believe that for a moment there the, the subway. But did anything else during this awakening open up other things? You know, I'm not saying you see dead people, but is there anything else that you kind of had to deal with?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. So when I first had the awakening, I had this ability to see people's energy, especially when they were lying, like aura. Like I would see these spirals come out of people's ears when they were telling a lie.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's very handy.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh yeah, super handy. Right? Except that I was going up to strangers on the street and I'm like, your husband's lying to you. He's gay. You should divorce him and take your baby.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like not a great approach.

[Betty Guadagno]

Girl, you're nuts. Please stop doing this. And then after that, I started to understand that I have the to be. I was able to practice the art of bibliomancy, which is where you open up a book to a random page and it feels like it speaks directly to you because it is speaking directly to you. There's a word for it. So I went to Walgreens after my experience and I stole a Bible cuz I wanted to learn about God and I was a thief. I probably could have went to a church and just asked for one.

[Alex Ferrari]

Just stop for a second. I want everyone to understand this scenario. I want to learn about God. So I'm going to steal a Bible. The book that is given freely in every hotel.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

On the planet. You could just walk by a church and ask, ask for a Bible and they will give it to you. That's where you were.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

But you know what? Yeah, good intentions. I want to learn about God, but I can't afford a Bible.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And didn't think to ask for a Bible.

[Betty Guadagno]

And it was so weird because there was a display in the Walgreens of Bibles. I've never seen that since. I've never seen that before.

[Alex Ferrari]

In what state?

[Betty Guadagno]

This is in New York.

[Alex Ferrari]

New York Bibles, like in a Walgreens in New York. It's like not a Bible.

[Betty Guadagno]

Like I'm telling you, it was there for me to steal one, obviously.

[Alex Ferrari]

Obviously.

[Betty Guadagno]

So I opened up the Bible to, to a random page and the verse that came up was, why worry about a speck in your brother's eye when there's a log in your own? So here I am, I'm trying to lay hands on homeless drug addicts. When I got. I gotta lay those hands on myself. Okay. I gotta heal some stuff in me. So that, that, that part really stuck out. Another verse that stuck out to me was, I'm not gonna be able to quote it verbatim, but something about the birds don't want for anything. Right. Like you don't have to worry about shelter or food or clothing. God's got you. I didn't believe that. But I kept opening up the Bible to that page and I was like, maybe. And then I found myself in that long term rehab where I was clothed. I Was fed. I had shelter, and I just had a place to learn. I didn't have to worry about rent or bills or working or anything. I just had space to sit and learn, and that's what I use that time for. But. So those were my gifts that I came back with. I also had a little bit of synthesia where all of my senses were intertwined so I could taste music. Like, I could. You know, I could see people's energy, and everything was kind of mixed up. But I asked to have all of that taken away because I was like, this is. This is wacky. This is nuts.

[Alex Ferrari]

I can't. I can't deal.

[Betty Guadagno]

I can't go from zero to infinity. I need something important between. How am I supposed to be a human?

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, I didn't want to know what. You can't touch. This tastes like. Just really don't need that in my life right now. It's interesting that you say that, that you like. I don't want any of this because I have enough to do, let alone to handle the pressure of these abilities. And I know a lot of psychic mediums and stuff, they just. They just put it away because they can't. It's too much.

[Betty Guadagno]

It is a lot. And, you know, I. My gifts show up in different ways today. So I'm a master manifester. Hello. I manifested this experience, and I. I use a Law of Attraction in my healing practice, and I'm able to do that with the people that I get to work with as well. Utilize the Law of Attraction, Teach people about it in a really digestible way again, like, if a homeless junkie can do this, you probably can too, you know, And. And, you know, another one of my gifts is bringing people together in communication. Oh, my God, I love that. Being able to shepherd people to communities, to help them heal or to make them feel accepted or to integrate an experience. So that's how my spiritual gifts show up today.

[Alex Ferrari]

All of the stuff that you went through in those first 35 years, like, in my own life, I mean, all the stuff that I went through in my life in the film industry and all that kind of stuff, I only recently discovered that it was prepping me for what I'm doing now. I was very angry about that when I was going through it, I'm assuming. As you were. But it prepped me for everything I'm doing right now. Obviously, your experience has prepped you for what you're doing, but is there anything specific? Any skills? Like you just said, community? Like, was there a moment in those 35 years, you're like, I love gatherings. Let's put some people together.

[Betty Guadagno]

Only like staff. Just kidding.

[Alex Ferrari]

You are the most fascinating near death experience I've ever seen. I have to tell you. At least the most fun. This has been a heck of a story and heck of a role. I feel like I've gone through this with.

[Betty Guadagno]

I'm glad, I'm glad.

[Alex Ferrari]

But it. Was there anything that you brought in, like, those skills, like, you know, as a junkie, I was able to do this, this and this, and now it's really helping me in this part of my life.

[Betty Guadagno]

I probably never said this on a podcast before, but honestly, like, being involved in sex work actually made me understand human nature a lot. I mean, it really does, you know, like, people are innately hurt and wounded and they just want somebody to talk to. It was like way less. I mean, I was a hot mess. So it wasn't even about that. You know, it was just like, people just want somebody to trust, somebody to confide in. And it really did set me up for being able to assist people on their healing journeys. Today I work with people as a transformation coach, and it's really about holding space. And that's really all that people need. They just need a little bit of inspiration and an understanding, just compassion, you know. But other than that, you know, really the, the foreshadowing from my origin story is that I have dealt with the loss, the intentional loss of my parents. I've been able to assist people through similar loss like that. I have been immersed in my own addiction. My whole job today is self disclosure. I don't just work as a transformation coach. I have a day job too. And I get to work in the field of substance use disorder recovery. And so I get to self disclose. And I don't, I don't share all of this. Like, they don't know that I had a near death experience or anything. But I say, hey, I overcame and if I can do it, you can too. And that's a job that they pay me a salary for. Like, what? That's crazy, right? You're the bird, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

You're the bird. Everything's taken care of?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes, everything.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's all. Those all has all fallen into place. It's all fall into place. Place. Did you, when you, when you had your whole awakening and during these 17 months when you came back out, it doesn't, I always ask, like, what, you know, did you come out of the closet? When did you decide to start talking about this? When did you start Talking about it. Was there any apprehension about it? Because it doesn't sound like you had a group of friends that you were hanging on to or even family or anything like that that you were holding on to a lot that you would be ashamed about. About talking about a near death experience at this point that seems, in this storyline doesn't seem that out of whack.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So was there a moment that you came out of that closet and started talking about it publicly on like shows and. And everything?

[Betty Guadagno]

You're doing so well. I did share about it on Instagram. The next day I was like, y' all did. But after that, after that, when I started to say the comprehensive story that's come about after years of inter integrating, I. The first time that I spoke about it was through ions, the International association for Near Death Studies, which I actually, I work part time for them today. I, you know, I had all of this invisible help around me. I was constantly channeling archangels and I had all my spirit guides. My father's my number one guide. He's always with me. I had. I had conceptualized a whole team, but none of them were actual physical people. And I begged them when I left treatment, I said. I said, please, you have to manifest into physical people for me because I can't just live my life talking out into the air. I need to have physical interaction. I'm. I'm here to be human. And I had found all of these great spiritual communities. I have a Course in miracles community. I study the Baha' I faith. I belong to a 12 step fellowship. But I was missing this one part about this spiritual experience, which I still actually didn't know what it was.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Betty Guadagno]

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[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today day?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365 wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an all office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

And I was watching Netflix and the surviving death docu series popped up and the first episodes about near death experiences and I heard Dr. Mary Neal share about her experience and I was floored and I couldn't believe it. I said oh my God, that's what happened to me. And they were at an ions conference in the episode and so I googled it and I found out that they had sharing groups online and so I went into these sharing groups and I listened to these people talk and they had all this language and they were sharing their stories so comprehensively and I thought could that ever be me? Am I ever going to be able to share this story and have it make sense and then people were saying that they had their experiences 20 years ago. And I would come off mute and be like, you're still not back in heaven. Wait, are you saying that I have to stay here for 20 more years? Because I just thought the whole thing was to get back to heaven. So every time that I reached a milestone, I would cry out to God, hey, God, I haven't used drugs in one year. Are you coming back to get me yet? Like, is the spaceship coming? Like, what's happening? I'm still here. And, you know, through that community, I realized that it's not about going back to heaven, it's about bringing heaven here. And so every day I have an opportunity to do that. And in connection with other people, that feels like heaven to me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Do you fear death anymore?

[Betty Guadagno]

Definitely not. I won't say that I welcome it, but whenever you're ready.

[Alex Ferrari]

As I always say, everyone wants to go to heaven, but just not right now.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, you know, I'm actually really enjoying my Earth experience today because I've come out on the other side of it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, yeah, this is, this is the fun part.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like they said. Just like they said.

[Betty Guadagno]

Just like I said, I didn't trust them, but I do now. And I would even come back to Earth. Most experiencers say that they will never come back here, but. But at this point in my life, I am enjoying it so much, I would definitely come back here again.

[Alex Ferrari]

So just, I want to dig into that just for a second. So I wouldn't want to come back here is the definition. And I know a lot of people listening right now, like, I'm definitely not coming back here because I've gone through this, this, this and this. Hopefully this story kind of shines a light on their own experience and going, well, if she went through all of that, which is an extreme. But on this other side, as a soul, when you saw the pre birthing, the pre birth experience, and you were in the spiritual supermarket, supermarket sweeps. Such a generational thing, your supermarket sweeps. And you're pulling out cereal boxes full of experiences. There seemed to be a sense of giddiness on the other side. Like, oh my God, I'm going on a ride. It's kind of like right before you go on a ride at Disney World. Like you, like, you've never been on Space Mountain or you've never been on, you know, Tron or something like that. And you, you're about to go on and there's that anticipation like, like, I can't wait to see what's going to happen in this ride, which from a soul's perspective makes all the sense in the world. But from this perspective, you're like, why would I want to go through what you went through?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, why would I want to do that? So can you explain to people the feeling of it's such a gift to come down here and to experience contrast? That. That's the big thing is experience contrast. Because some people, you know, everyone. Everyone. That no one gets out of here without some scarring, some shrapnel. Every human being because we come. That's just the nature of this reality. You're. It's going to be a tough fight, generally speaking.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Even if you're born into a billionaire family and all, you're still going to have some stuff to have to deal with. Something.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

No matter what. You might. If you're in a billionaire, you might show up in a nicer style suit and car, but you're still going to be dealing with some crap.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So can you explain to people why you would want to not do it once, but potentially thousands of times? And we are only talking about Earth. Let's not even discuss the rest of this universe, which is fairly large, and other experiences that are not Earth. But I hear that this is one of the tougher once.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. So heaven is boring. Okay. It's a Snoozeville. There's only one thing happening.

[Alex Ferrari]

Love.

[Betty Guadagno]

It's unconditional love. Which is cool, I guess, but like, how can you appreciate love unless you understand suffering, unless you understand duality? So I really honestly think that we're all totally jaded up there in heaven. We're like God the father, what else ever. Like, I'm so over this. Let me go.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, you're a valley girl from the sad.

[Betty Guadagno]

That's how I see myself. And I have like long ass fingernails, as if God. Yeah. Like, my heavenly father is so annoying. He's like all over me with his love. Yuck. Let me go down to Earth and see what's going on down there. I heard that place is a dumpster fire. Let's do it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Let's do this. Let's do this. Oh, New York. That sounds fun.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes, yes, yes. Let me tell you, living in New York is the most amazing part of my human experience because I can experience a wide range of things in one city block. Oh, yeah. I can watch a homeless person defecating, a millionaire coming out of a Porsche, a family pushing their new baby in a stroller, all in the same block. It's incredible.

[Alex Ferrari]

While Eating great Chinese food.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes. Yes, it is. It's insane. And you know, for me, it really helps me to keep in mind that I'm inside of a dream and that everybody has autonomy inside this dream. And that's where the pre birth planning thing really comes into play for me. You know, maybe I want to go out and fix, manage and control and fix the outcome to everything going on, but I don't know what that person's soul's plan is. Maybe it's their plan to be in that place right now. Maybe they're not meant for transformation in this moment. Moment. It's not up to me to decide. I'm not the decider of those things. This is not my dream. This is a collective dream that we're having. So I think that when it comes to experiencing the duel of everything, you know, it's just, it's for fun. It's supposed to be fun. Now. When challenging things happen to me, I, I just kind of laugh at my team and I'm like, didn't I already learn enough lessons? Can I just have like this super easy part of the game now? Like, I don't want to learn anything challenging anymore.

[Alex Ferrari]

And they're going, no, no, no. You got a little bit left.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

If not, why are you here?

[Betty Guadagno]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

But it's, it's interesting that, like, your life, the first part of it was extremely difficult. And this now next chapter of it, you know, is a dream.

[Betty Guadagno]

It is.

[Alex Ferrari]

It worked. You took work to get there, but it was a dream.

[Betty Guadagno]

Now it is. And you know what? I'll just share this. Success is very uncomfortable for me, and my inner saboteur comes in to protect me. And, you know, it came up with like, sugar addiction. I haven't had, I haven't eaten sugar in a year and a half. Go me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Betty Guadagno]

But that was a way that I was sedating myself through the success of this journey. Like, finding a wonderful partner, getting a career, speaking places, connecting with conscious community. All of my dreams coming to fruition. My internal world is like, like, no, girl. Like failure, rejection. We know that, like, we're very comfortable there. Success, joy, elation. We don't know those things. This is all really uncomfortable and weird and, you know, like, we grow in, in inside of the discomfort of life. And so for me, getting to this point in my life, it's not like, yay, everything's awesome. Like, I still have a lot of patterns that are, you know, in the process of being reprogrammed. I have to be really vigilant about My spiritual practice practices to make sure that I'm connected while all of this is going on.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because it sounds like you're. You could have easily self sabotaged and you probably did.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, I have, absolutely. Yeah. With.

[Alex Ferrari]

When success started coming in.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes, absolutely.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's why a lot of the. The people who win lotteries, they don't.

[Betty Guadagno]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

They really can't handle that.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

If they've never had that kind of energy.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

In their life.

[Betty Guadagno]

Because like, for me, it was 0 to 100. It was. There was no, like slow, gradual coming into this. It was like asleep, violently awake. Like alarm clocks blaring, buckets of ice water being thrown on your head. It was a lot. And so there was no space for me to ease into what success looks like or what joy looks like.

[Alex Ferrari]

Can you. Can you talk to the people watching right now who are losing someone or about to lose someone from old age, disease, something like that, or have lost someone and they were maybe in the atheist camp or didn't have a strong belief or you. They're like, I just want to make sure that Grandma Nana is. Nana's gonna be okay kind of thing. Because if people find. And you know this, when people look for these kind of shows and these kind of episodes, it's because they're looking for answers. They want to make sure that their loved ones are okay. And so it's a message to them, but also to people. Maybe someone who is going through the death process right now and is concerned. Like, like, I forgot someone, you said that that was scared about what was going to be on the other side. What do you think? What would that be a message be?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. Well, maybe I'll take away my heaven is boring statement just in case.

[Alex Ferrari]

Super cool.

[Betty Guadagno]

I mean, it's really.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's really cool.

[Betty Guadagno]

Cool.

[Alex Ferrari]

But I mean, for how long? Where can I find good Chinese food up there? It's not.

[Betty Guadagno]

I mean, heaven is beautiful. The sense of reunion, that was what I felt in the light. Not home. Like, where all your stuff is. Like. There's no words to describe this sense of reunion and bliss and joy and connection and safety. Like, so unbelievably safe. It's a beautiful place and I do believe that we all go there. Like, there is no such thing as condemnation. If I made it there, everybody's making it there. But I also don't think that that's like a pass to get out of the earth experience. You're here to learn things and if you don't learn your lessons, I believe that you just Come back and and you have those classes that you still have to take.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Betty Guadagno]

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Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items to keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th, earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard, Raw Sugar, Dove Soft Soap, and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Betty Guadagno]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bid bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24. 7 365.

[Betty Guadagno]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

So, you know, I think that there's so much. There's so much hope. There is definitely life after life. I absolutely know that with a hundred percent certainty. But Earth is actually really cool, too. I find that. You know, I host a podcast for ions, and a lot of people who listen to the podcast that are maybe contemplating leaving Earth on their own exit point. And, you know, this is not. Again, I don't believe in condemnation, but I also don't believe that you get to just, like, drop out of college and, like, don't get your degree.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, no, you're going back in.

[Betty Guadagno]

Oh, yeah. You have to finish. You know, like, you signed up.

[Alex Ferrari]

You can't get a GED on this one.

[Betty Guadagno]

Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

You can't get a ged. You're gonna go.

[Betty Guadagno]

You gotta go.

[Alex Ferrari]

You signed up for the people PhD.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes, I, I. When I first came into spiritual awareness, I would hear people say, earth is the most advanced. It's the Ivy League of all the spiritual schools. And I was like, is it. Or is it the place for bad kids and pregnant teenagers? Because I'm starting to think maybe, maybe I'm in the bad school.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, if you go on social media, definitely.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's no question, but. So go ahead.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, I just, I. I want to say that there is a lot of hope. So if you're getting ready to cross over or you've recently lost someone, they're with you. You have access to them. Like I said, my dad is my number one spirit guide. He's always with me. And I have that innate knowing, and that's not individual to just me. We can all access our loved ones, ask them for a sign. I wasn't sure if I was going crazy, if I was schizophrenic, or if I was actually having these spiritual experiences. And I felt my dad so closely to me. And I said, dad was. Listen, I think I'm losing my mind. If it's really you, send me a sign. And the first image that popped into my head was a fox. Said, okay, dad, send me a fox if it's you. The next day, I went to TJ Maxx, and you know that story. It's like a bomb went off in there.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, God. Marshalls Ross.

[Betty Guadagno]

It's like, yeah, forks in the underwear section. Like their shoes in the home goods. Like it's nuts in There, totally chaotic. Your eyes can't focus on one thing because there's just so much going on, on. And so I'm in line with my arms full of garbage that I don't need, getting ready to pay for it. And on the end cap, where all the discarded items are, there's a book, and it says Amazing Dads. And it was a picture of a daddy fox and a baby fox. And I. I just knew that it was him, and that was the confirmation that I needed. So I would say that if you just recently lost somebody, ask them for a sign. And I look forward to hearing a cool story about how that sign came to fruition, because it definitely will.

[Alex Ferrari]

When you were saying that story, I thought. And at the end of the line, I'm like, is it a display of Bibles and did you steal another one?

[Betty Guadagno]

Hilarious.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let me ask. I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests. What do you. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

[Betty Guadagno]

Living a fulfilled life is just about experience. It means all the experience, good, bad, and indifferent. I want to experience all of it that is fulfilling to me and being of service. Oh, my God. I'm a service junkie now. That's my new drug of choice.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's a good one to do. Yeah, to an extent. You can't go overboard with all the goodness. There's balance. It has to be a balance for everything. But, yeah, service is such a powerful thing. And people don't understand, like a lot of people who don't provide a service for people outside of themselves for no other reason other than just to be kind. It's the greatest drug, in my opinion. Like, you feel it's. It's a chemical that gets released in your system when you are kind. I think that's from. From our. Just our evolution as a species because we're. The only way we survive is to be collaborative, to be helpful, because if we can't. Those bears are much stronger than us.

[Betty Guadagno]

I say this all the time.

[Alex Ferrari]

They're so much stronger than us. And we're pretty weak. We're pretty, you know, not really built for this planet.

[Betty Guadagno]

So true.

[Alex Ferrari]

So the only thing that gets us going is this and helping each other.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes. And being of service doesn't have to be some grand act where you donate thousands of dollars to a cause. It could just be holding the door open for a stranger or paying somebody a compliment or accepting a compliment. That's also an act of service.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's also very difficult.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's a hard One, if you had a chance to go back in time, got into the DeLorean with Marty, went back in time, and got to speak to little Betty, what advice would you.

[Betty Guadagno]

Give her to hold on for dear life? For dear life. Girl, it's gonna get real bad, and then it's gonna get real awesome, and you are worthy of all the love in the universe. That's what I would tell her.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's another T shirt. That is such a great deal. How do you define God or source?

[Betty Guadagno]

There is no definition for God. And, you know, the source is all that is as a piece of energy. I'm sparked from a source of energy. That's my conception of God. And it's unconditional love. It's safety, it's security. It's. It's all of these amazing feelings of peace and serenity. That's how I conceptualize God. So when I'm praying, I'm praying to those attributes. And. And God is not a form or a gender or race or class in my mind, just this effervescent ball of unconditional love that I'm sparked from.

[Alex Ferrari]

What is love?

[Betty Guadagno]

Ooh. Love is so indescribable. Right? Love is, you know, on earth, obviously, like, we. We romanticize the idea of love. We think about a romantic partner or even a parent, child, child relationship. Like, there's these special relationships, of course, in miracles would call it. But a holy relationship is where love can really thrive and. And be experienced because it's love without condition. My whole life, I was under the impression that love is transactional, that I have to do something in order to be worthy of love, whether it's get good grades or clean my room or be a good spouse or whatever it looks like. Like today I have this concept of unconditional love that means without conditions, that it's accessible to me again, the feeling of safety, security, connection, all of those things encapsulate the idea of love for me.

[Alex Ferrari]

If you could ask God one question, what question would that be?

[Betty Guadagno]

Do you like my hair? I'm not gonna bother God with any questions.

[Alex Ferrari]

He's gonna be like, I heard what you said. Oh, my God. God, my father. Yeah, the Holy Father's just giving me so much love. Oh, that's it. How annoying. My kids do the same thing. Like, our. My wife and I literally say to them, like, I'm sorry. We love you so much.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, as. As we drop them off to school, we open the window like, we love you. They just want to die. And it's the Best feeling.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yes. All of us are like these nihilistic teenagers here on Earth. Yes. We are so emo.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. We really are listening to a lot of the. Of the Clash and.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

[Betty Guadagno]

To experience. To experience everything that life has to offer. That means experience heartbreak, experience grief, experience love, experience connection, experience everything. That is the meaning of life. Life. We come here to forget so that we can remember. Because it's in the remembrance that that is. That's the bliss is remembering. Can you believe that? Like, we think that we're human.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's so funny. It's ridiculous.

[Betty Guadagno]

It's crazy.

[Alex Ferrari]

And as you said, as you said, like, experience everything. I just. The first thing that popped into my hand was like. But everything, everywhere, all at once. That's exactly how your story goes. You just. All of the cereal boxes. All the cereal boxes went into your back. Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, I'm on all social media. My handle on everything is Buddha Betty. It's a play on words. I'm not actually a booty. I'm not actually a Buddha.

[Alex Ferrari]

You were Jesus. We already established that.

[Betty Guadagno]

I'm more like a Bodhi, but my handle is Buddha Betty. I have a website, Buddha Betty.com. and I would love to connect with anybody, especially if you're somebody that's dealing with. With addiction or integrating a spiritual experience. I'd love to connect you to community or work with you one on one. There's so much hope out there. There's so much. There's so much freedom. There's so many resources. So please, please reach out.

[Alex Ferrari]

And this is not just one last question I wanted to ask you with this awakening, the Great Awakening, the show that you were talking about. We're in it right now, and a lot of people are going through a lot. And you kind of hinted at that with that last comment. What advice do you have for people who are dealing with their own awakenings, their own dark night of the soul, their own shadow work, which it seems like everybody is starting to have to deal with this stuff. You know, the stuff that we didn't talk about when we were kids, we're dealing with now. And it's coming on a mass level. I think that's one of the reasons why we're. Seems like everything is a dumpster fire right now. It just seems like the whole world's crumbling, come crumbling around us because of this. So I'd love to hear your advice for anybody.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah. Don't watch the news. That's my number one advice. You don't need to. But how will I stay informed? You don't need to.

[Alex Ferrari]

If it's important enough, it'll get to you.

[Betty Guadagno]

Yeah, you'll find out. You know, I think that being present is such an important thing.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Honey German]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items. To keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th, earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard, raw sugar, Dove Soft soap and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going?

[Betty Guadagno]

Day?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the. The number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[Alex Ferrari]

What.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Betty Guadagno]

Wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an online office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Betty Guadagno]

So my awareness of the Great Awakening has shifted. So, you know, I used to live every day in, in this awareness that great things are coming. They're right around the corner. Like transformation is here. It's going to. It's all happening. And I realized that every second that I was going into this story, I was pulling myself out of the present moment. So whether you believe in doomsday and the apocalypse or you believe in the great awakening and transformation of consciousness, both of those things actually keep you out of the present moment, which is where heaven is. Another thing about going through spiritual awakening, integration, confronting all these shadows of our past. Don't do it by yourself. Like how you shared, right? Those bears, they're big. We came here in tribes of souls. Not only tribes of souls, but in the beginning, at the time we were in tribes of people. We need each other. So find a teacher, find a community, find a mentor, find somebody to do this work with. If I'm doing my work by myself, I'm in bad company. I'm the person who got me into the mess to begin with. Like, I'm not, I'm not the one. I gotta find somebody else to help me.

[Alex Ferrari]

This has been by far one of the most amazing near death experiences I've ever had. I've had, I've had so much fun with you. You are just a ball of wonderful energy and I appreciate your candor, your humor to the whole thing and hopefully people listening will help people. So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet. So thank you.

[Betty Guadagno]

Thank you so much.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'd like to thank Betty so much for coming on the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with all of us. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes at next levelsoul.com forward/569 and if you like this content and want to go deeper down the spiritual rabbit hole, just head over to next LevelSoul TV and we have movies, series, original shows, live events and of course all of Next Level Soul completely ad free. Again, just head over to next LevelSoul TV. Available on Apple, Roku, Amazon Fire, Android and iOS and Android phones. And if You've only been listening to these episodes and want to watch these amazing conversations, head over to our YouTube channel at nextlevelsoul.com forward/YouTube. Thank you so much for listening. And as I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you.

[Betty Guadagno]

You.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'll see you next time.

[Honey German]

This mood check is brought to you by State Farm. Que tal? Mi gente, honey. German. Checking in. Contigo. Take a second. Literal mente un momentico parati. How's your corazon feeling today? If it's a little tired, a little. Oof. You're not alone. Have you eaten Algorico? Taken a deep breath, maybe even turned off your phone for cinco minutitos. I promise the memes will still be there. Sometimes self care isn't candles and meditation. It's just saying no. It's drinking a little bit of agua. It's letting yourself rest. Simpena, you don't have to prove anything today. Just be breathe. Estas haciendo lo mejor que puedes. And yes, that's enough. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, hydro silk razors and edge shave gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four times points to use for later discounts on groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows.

[Alex Ferrari]

So the.

[Dan Morgan]

The number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[Alex Ferrari]

What.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247-365- wow.

[Dan Morgan (interviewer)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, hydro Silk Razors and Edge Shave Gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four times points to use for later discounts on groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more detail.

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[Betty Guadagno]

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