NLS 570: EXCLUSIVE: NEW DISCOVERIES with Robert Edward Grant

Summary

Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari — Episode NLS 570 EXCLUSIVE: NEW DISCOVERIES with Robert Edward Grant
April 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this captivating episode, host Alex Ferrari welcomes back polymath and spiritual thinker Robert Edward Grant for his third appearance. The conversation dives into Grant's latest discoveries from Egypt and Antarctica, explores the connections between ancient civilizations and human consciousness, and examines the role of mass awakening in today’s tumultuous world. Grant shares groundbreaking insights about the Great Pyramid’s astronomical alignments, the mechanics of pole shifts, and fresh evidence of pyramidal structures in Antarctica. The episode ultimately centers on understanding our reality as a “dreamlike” simulation, the evolutionary purpose behind our struggles, and practical guidance on finding empowerment during global uncertainty.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. Welcome and Setting the Stage

(03:32 – 04:28)

• Alex Ferrari welcomes back Robert Edward Grant as a “returning champion,” noting this is his third time on the show.
• Alex describes needing to “get my brain ready” to absorb Grant’s high-level ideas, referencing audience comments about the depth and complexity of their conversations.

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2. Groundbreaking Discoveries in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid

(04:31 – 09:47)

• Robert shares a new find: The King’s Chamber north wall contains etched imagery of the Orion constellation, with distinct markers for the eyes and a “third eye.”
• “Holy cow, that’s Orion’s belt. …It has the same orientation as the three pyramids on Giza Plateau, which is now showing that there is some planning.” — Robert (04:56)
• By overlaying the Cygnus constellation onto this etching, Grant recognized precise correspondence—suggesting the ancient builders encoded both star systems, not just Orion.
• He links this to precessional cycles: every 6,000 years, Earth's North Star shifts (Vega, Thuban, Polaris, Deneb). These shifts are physically embedded in the geometry of the chamber, connecting physical architecture and cosmic time cycles (Yugas).

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3. Pole Shifts, Ancient Clocks & Extinction Events

(09:47 – 19:19)

• Grant uses both intuition and ChatGPT to theorize that star alignments only match as described around 12,800 years ago, following a massive Earth pole shift—possibly tied to the Younger Dryas cataclysm.
• When asked about the nature of pole shifts:
  • “We like to believe…it’s slow…but let’s be real. We have no history that goes beyond 6,000 years.” — Robert (10:22)
  • Describes a sudden pole shift as “an extinction-level event…The Earth would literally stop spinning…tidal wave two to three miles high.” (11:13 – 14:58)
• Alex bridges this scientific-astronomical speculation with the cyclical “resets” observed in myth and lost civilizations—proposing the Great Pyramid acts as both a clock and a warning.

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4. Cycles, Yugas, and Patterns in Human Awakening

(19:19 – 21:59)

• Discussion on the 24,000-year Yuga cycles described by Sri Yukteswar and their echoes in ancient architecture and world religions.
• Both host and guest see recurring “patterns”—notably 24,000, 12,000, and 6,000-year cycles—hiding in plain sight.

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5. Simulation, Dream Metaphysics, and Lucid Living

(22:01 – 32:29)

• Grant proposes that “awakening” in modern times is reminiscent of “lucid dreaming”—where glitches in the matrix (pandemics, social upheaval, etc.) awaken us to the illusion.
  • “We are definitely in the theater of ridiculousness. Let’s be real.” — Robert (21:43)
• Alex probes the mind-body relationship in dreams, suggesting dreams are messages from the “other side” or the higher self.
• Grant flips it: “Life is the exact same experience. Life is the other side trying to send us messages to help us along our journey.” (29:20)
• They agree that both dreams and waking life are spaces for learning, integration, healing, and expansion.

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6. On Lessons, Shadow Work, and the Purpose of Duality

(32:29 – 41:47)

• The pair discuss the deeper existential question: Why do we repeat lessons? What is the ultimate point of suffering or challenge?
• Grant quotes Alan Watts: “An eye cannot observe itself without the aid of a mirror…Consciousness, in order to perceive itself, must divide itself into mirrors.” (32:15)
• “We experience the world not as it is, but as we are…We are here to provide the opportunity for the One to observe itself through our unique perspectives.” — Robert (34:23 – 34:43)
• Life is described as a process of reflecting, learning, and integrating—serving the grand purpose of Source/God learning empathy for every possible circumstance.

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7. Suffering, Awakening, Integrating the Shadow

(51:05 – 54:16)

• “If you are here to learn unconditional love, then you’re going to experience betrayal over and over again. But here’s the kicker…each time you experience it again and haven’t learned from it, it gets harder.” — Robert (51:19)
• The necessity of shadow work: “Discernment is being able to recognize the patterns you keep putting yourself through and finally being able to recognize maybe this isn’t the pattern I want to keep experiencing.” (51:33 – 51:52)
• They joke about turning insights into t-shirts: “If I’m resonating at the frequency of humility, what am I going to perceive in the world around me?” — Robert (53:38)

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8. Societal Upheaval and Mass Awakening: The Age of Aquarius

(55:29 – 61:06)

• Is modern chaos a collective “sledgehammer”? Grant believes so.
• Transition into the Age of Aquarius is marked by rebellion against institutions, authority, legacy religions—“all arbiters of right and wrong are being rejected unilaterally.” (60:51)
• “Why? Because we are now in the Age of Aquarius. Age of Aquarius is exactly about rebellion…hyper-technology and frequency and resonance.” — Robert (60:53)

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9. Antarctica Discoveries: Ancient Pyramids and Lost Civilizations

(68:08 – 78:09)

• Grant recounts an expedition with Matias De Stefano to Antarctica, revealing the discovery of seven pyramidal mountains not previously featured on Google.
  • “Whole mountains made of granite, shaped exactly like a pyramid…The chance that you’re going to get a perfect block of granite…is pretty low.” — Robert (72:33 – 73:24)
  • Perfect geometric proportions—3-4-5 triangles, 53.13° angles, matching Giza pyramid alignments.
• Some of these pyramids feature “carvings” akin to the tetraktys (ancient sacred geometry).

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10. Miracles, Reality, and the Malleability of Experience

(78:59 – 80:32)

• “You get what you expect…If you don’t believe in miracles, you’ll never experience a miracle.” — Robert (78:59)
• Emphasizes extreme responsibility: “You’re in control of it all…You create it all.” (80:10)

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11. Gurus, Authentic Guidance, and Personal Responsibility

(80:32 – 84:10)

• Critiques the “guru syndrome”—warning against giving away power.
• “A good teacher helps you discover the truth within yourself.” — Alex (81:48)
• The real revelation is always discovered not impersonally handed down.

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12. Old Testament vs. New Testament: A Historical and Spiritual Lens

(84:10 – 97:59)

• Why were the Old and New Testaments combined? Grant sees it as a political unification (Council of Nicaea), fulfilled for organizational, not spiritual, reasons.
• Old Testament: “Very black and white…an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth…self-serving.”
• New Testament (Gospel): “It’s when your love exceeds and supersedes your desire to be right…Judge not lest you be judged.” (101:14)
• Jesus’ lost years, connection to Eastern teachings, and the essence of love, self-acceptance, and non-judgment.

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13. Time, Experience, and the Journey of Enlightenment

(113:39 – 114:32)

• “Suffering is only suffering when you don’t know the reason behind the suffering, when you realize that judgment is a source of suffering, but suffering is a source of enlightenment.” — Robert (113:39)
• Enlightenment is correctly seen as “enlightening,” an endless, expanding process for Source as much as for us.
• “All things I did bad…don’t really matter in the grand scheme. These were all part of the chosen path for you to realize your authenticity. Authentic love is the highest frequency.” — Robert (115:00)

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14. Advice for Navigating Uncertain Times

(104:41 – 113:15)

• “Try your best to flip your perception of what’s happening. Realize that everything that’s happening is happening for your highest benefit, and lean into it.” — Robert (104:41)
• Take radical responsibility: you are the “producer, director, actor…You can write the script…Life is not what happens to us, it’s what we believe happens to us.”
• “If you want to get rid of the wars and the difficulty in your outer world, stop the wars within yourself. It’s all a reflection of what’s happening inside.” (105:10)
• Heaven and hell are here, now, based on our perception and vibration.

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15. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Awakening:
  “We are definitely in the theater of ridiculousness. Let’s be real.” (21:43, Robert)
• On Miracles:
  “If you believe in miracles, you might experience a miracle. If you don’t…you’ll never experience a miracle.” (79:09, Robert)
• On Destiny:
  “What I’m calling ‘destiny’ is just the free will of my higher self.” (55:20, Robert)
• On Self-Love:
  “As I truly love myself unconditionally, then the world around me starts to love me unconditionally.” (106:37, Robert)
• On Life as a Game:
  “Mankind only suffers because he takes too seriously what the gods made for fun.” (117:40, Alan Watts via Robert)

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16. Resources & Outreach

• Robert’s show: Codex on Gaia (117:56)
• Books: Philomath, Polymath, Philosopher, Mirror of Consciousness series
• Website: robertedwardgrant.com
• YouTube: Hundreds of videos, interviews

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Summary & Takeaway

This episode artfully weaves together ancient history, quantum physics, astrology, philosophy, and personal development—unpacking humanity’s present upheaval as a vital, orchestrated “wake-up call.” Through specific discoveries and broad spiritual insight, Robert Edward Grant and Alex Ferrari urge listeners to view experience as a dream-like journey for soul expansion, with personal and collective responsibility at its center.

The overarching message is to embrace the chaos of now as a window for genuine authenticity, self-love, and the transcending of old scripts—effectively awakening our power as conscious participants and creators in the “divine play” of existence.

“Heaven and hell are right here. We don’t have to die for it. We can transform Earth into heaven when we fall in love with it just as it is.” — Robert Edward Grant (113:15)

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For further exploration, find more at NextLevelSoul.com, Codex on Gaia, and robertedwardgrant.com.

Transcript

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Welcome to the Next Level Soul podcast where we ask the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my Soul's mission? We attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests on the planet today. I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, if you wanted to go deeper down the rabbit hole with Next Level Soul, please download the free Next Level Soul app on Apple or Android. All you've got to do is go over to next levelsoul.com forward/subscribe, download and get access to meditations, exclusive interviews, live streams with me, and early access to episodes before they air anywhere else and so, so much more. So again, head over to nextlevelsoul.com subscribe disclaimer the views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the show, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now today we welcome back Robert Edward Grant. And Robert wanted to come back on the show because there has been new findings that he has found because is literally the most interesting man in the world. And he has found new evidence and new things that are leading or giving us an insight to humanity's prophecy, the prophecy for humanity's future. And we. We go deep, deep, deep down the rabbit hole, as only Robert and I together can do. So get ready for a wild ride. Let's dive in, like to welcome back to the show returning champion Robert Edward Grant.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Man, how you doing, Robert? Good to see you. You have a lot of returning champions.

[Alex Ferrari]

I do. But you, sir, are. You have a distinct. I do have returning. I have Lyle returning champions, but you have a distinct honor that. I think this will be your third time in the studio, technically. Third episode.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And there might be a fourth one coming. We'll see.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very soon as well. So you're the first three Peter.

[Robert Edward Grant]

A three Peter.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

Billy was the first. Billy, I think, was the first two people.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Carson.

[Alex Ferrari]

Billy Carson. Yeah, he was the first two Peter. So it's always an honor speaking to you, man. And I have to get my brain ready to absorb the information that comes in. As a lot of the comments in the. In the. In YouTube always say, like, I didn't know I needed a PhD just to listen to a podcast.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I'll try not to.

[Alex Ferrari]

No. But it's not. Say that in a good way because, I mean, we do go deep down rabbit holes, and it's really, really fascinating. So first thing, man, let's. Let's dive into your latest trip to Egypt. You went out there, and last time you came on, you discovered some new stuff inside the king's chamber. So what was. What happened now? And what have you discovered now, sir?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh, my goodness. Well, the latest discovery only happened a few days ago, actually.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's usually what happens. You come right. Like, fresh off the plane. I got to go to Alex's.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Well, this was a pretty big one because. So you remember that on the king's chamber walls, on the north wall is the face of Orion, the Orion constellation, in the exact position it should be. It's right next to Taurus, and Taurus is right over Orion's throat. Taurus controls the throat chakra. But what was also interesting is I was looking closely at the imagery again after I came back from my last trip. And, you know, I have this whole recreation of the king's chamber, and I can go in there anytime and do filming and stuff in there. It's pretty awesome. And thanks to the help of ASU, so Arizona State University, they let us use their 96 camera cube. I feel like I'm in the Vitruvian man box. Right, Literally. And you're getting camera views all over your body and everything, all in real time. It's really awesome. But I was looking at the imagery and I noticed something about the pupils of the face of Orion. So the way I always orient to see that three dimensional linear perspective drawing, you know, etching in the north chamber, in the north wall of the chamber is I look for the pupils. So once I find the pupils, then I realized I was like, wait a minute. So there's a pupil there and there's a pupil there and then right over the bridge of his nose is another divot. So there's a divot in the wall where the one pupil is. There's another divot in the wall and etched as well where the other pupil is, or left and right eyes. And then a third eye. And I look at the proportion, I'm like, holy cow, that's Orion's belt. So then I'm thinking, wait a minute, okay, so is that Orion's belt? Because it has the exact same orientation as the three pyramids on Giza Plateau, which is now showing that there is some planning. Right. So first of all, the 2 to 1 proportion of the King's chamber itself is exactly matching. During the procession of 24,000 years that we go through, there are four North Stars. So every 6,000 years, we change our North Star position right through the Earth's wobble. So right now we're in Polaris. Polaris, you know, Big Dipper, you know, the.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You know what Polaris is. Well, if you go back 6,000 years, it was Thuban in the Draco constellation. That was our North Star. So all the navigation would have been done orienting around the North Star. And we're wobbling as we go. Because we're wobbling as we go. So 6,000 years before that it was Vega. The star Vega, which is. It was actually popularized in the, in the movie Contact as well. Yes, right. Yes, I know. You know, other movies, I love that movie. And, and basically Vega is in the Lyra constellation. And then if you go back 6,000 years before that, it goes back to Deneb in Cygnus constellation. Now Cygnus is unique because it also has three central stars in the middle of the constellation that are matching exactly the same shape as the Giza Plateau as well. So what I realized as I look closer into the wall. And I took the overlay of Cygnus and put it on top of Orion's face on the wall. I noticed that where the other stars of Cygnus were, were also divoted in the wall.

[Alex Ferrari]

Interesting.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So then I started realizing, wait a minute, what this is telling us? And that Deneb was right on the tip of Orion's nose. So where we go in our direction, like in many cultures, the way they say, this is me, like in Japan, they point to their nose, they say, like me, or you know, in Korean, this is me. So you point to your nose. I am. So this is the direction you're headed, where your nose is pointing to. So I was like, okay, so does this mean that at some point in time in history, there must have been a point in time where Cygnus constellation mirrored over on top of Orion's belt for those three stars? And is it even possible for that to happen? So the beauty of ChatGPT is you can look it up now.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And you could say, what were the alignments like? And would it ever have been possible that in history there would have been a time where the stars of Cygnus, which are Cygni, Seder and Gina, those are the three stars, would overlap on top of Altinak al Nilam, the central star of Orion's belt, and the last being Mintaka. And it turns out the only way that from Earth's perspective you would have seen that in the sky would have been 11,000. So approximately 12,800 years ago, or 11,000 BC, 10,800 BC around the younger Dries. Exactly. And in order for that to have happened, the Earth would have had to have gone through a pole shift that moved its tilt to what would be today referenced as 53 degrees. Up to it could have actually been between 29 degrees. Today's Earth tilt is 24, 23.4 degrees. Right. But it only would have had to go up to 29 degrees or as high as 53 degrees, depending on the crustal displacement.

[Alex Ferrari]

Before you continue with the pyramid, I want to. Because this is something I've wondered about. I understand that there's been pole shifts in the history of this planet. It happens. And is it a subtle thing or is it a abrupt thing? And if it does, how fast is abrupt? Because they've been saying that we're going to have. At one point, Antarctica was not the South Pole, it was green.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah. I just discovered pyramids in Antarctica.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. But we can go down that rabbit hole in a minute. So how, how, how abrasive. Is that transition, is it a slow over hundreds of years or does it.

[Robert Edward Grant]

We like to believe, because nobody knows really, that it's slow and it's just part of the process of the Earth's wobble. But let's be real. We have no history that goes beyond 6,000 years. It's as if everything got wiped 6,000 years ago or 12,000 years ago or 12,001 years ago. So literally every 6,000 years we move into a new North Star position. So we don't know exactly if it's a gradual thing or it happens overnight or if it happens overnight.

[Alex Ferrari]

So if just, just.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And we of course, as a human race have a self preservation bias, of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let's say that it does happen. What would happen to the world today if tomorrow. The pole shift.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So if you put that into chatgpt, hold onto your hat because it's definitely terrifying.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And what it says is that if there were such a pole shift of such magnitude, then the earth would literally stop spinning right. Momentarily.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Dan Morgan]

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And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So you'd have like three days of darkness. If you're on one side of the earth, you'd have three days of light. And this is one of the things that people talk about in prophecy too. Right. You may have heard of this and that it would restart up again. Right. And then it might have some readjustment in. Into its position, but it's axial tilt would cause the earth to basically create both crustal displacement of the kind and magnitude that we're talking about. You know, like ripping a continent apart. Yeah, like magnitude 10. Right. Plus so literally ripping continents apart. And remember, each time that's a logarithmic scale. When you're looking at Richter scales. Right. It's logarithmic. So 9.1 becomes like 10 times more intense than 9, for example.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right, right.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Every point up is exactly, exactly. So when you start thinking about that, what would it do? It would create a gigantic tidal wave. And the tidal wave, ChatGPT says it would be on the order of two, two to three miles high.

[Alex Ferrari]

So nothing. So if it hits the coast, any coast, how, how many miles in does it go? Does it go in 30 miles, 40 miles?

[Robert Edward Grant]

We don't know. We don't. We don't. Obviously we don't know because, I mean, imagine this. It depends on how abrupt the Earth's rotation stops. If it's an abrupt stop. It could be more gradual. So it's not as bad as this.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's like an ease in.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's more like an ease in. But let's say you're driving a thousand miles an hour because that's the speed of the earth's rotation.

[Alex Ferrari]

We stopped. The whole world won't just. You keep going.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, it's like, you know, they always say when you're driving in a car and you've got like a box of tissue paper in the back seat, right in the back ledge. Don't ever have that. Because if you slam on the brakes, that tissue paper has only a certain amount of mass in its light object. But as soon as you apply the force of the momentum related to its velocity shift, then the total mass energy of that becomes multiples of it, right? So it's like a baseball coming at you. So if you're going a thousand miles an hour and you stop abruptly, right, You've got all this water that gets replaced. I mean, imagine you've, you're, you're hitching behind your truck, right? Your Ford Raptor or something. You slam on the brakes and you're going 100 miles an hour. All the water is going to come flying out, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Completely.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So you could see how this could possibly happen. And I'm not a doomsdayer at all. I'm just also looking at this saying we just don't know.

[Alex Ferrari]

But that's essentially an extension extinction level event maybe.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And maybe that's what we've experienced and this is why all these ancient civilizations get wiped out. Maybe it's part of the construct that we're living in, right, in this simulation.

[Alex Ferrari]

So would you agree that I think.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It'S like a set change? I mean, you make, you make movies, right? You've got your sets and you do it all like you're the master of all this. You realize that if you're going to be successful making film today, you've got to realize that you're the actor, so you're the talent and you're the director, you're the producer, right? You're the guy that gets the chief cook and bottle washer and you're the one who goes and gets the coffee at Starbucks, right? You do all of it. And you to me are a metaphor for what we're starting to realize about ourselves in our own matrix of mind.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, I want to go down that road in a minute, but so the shift in the earth's axis and kind of like this abrupt, I heard like Neil DeGrasse Tyson say this once. Like if the Earth stopped, just stopped rotation, it would be very bad because we would keep going 1,000 miles an hour and we basically, basically wipe out the planet and wipe out, excuse me, the human race and a lot of mammals and a lot of other animals. And I think the birds will be the only thing, you know, if they're in the air, that'll survive. Fish probably, depending on where they are in the ocean, might survive, all that kind of stuff. But that's an extinction level event. Like it's hard to. I don't think humanity comes back from that. I, I don't. At least that's such a, such a massive. It's kind of like a comet hitting. If a comet hits, it wiped out the dinosaurs. There's some things that got, that survived, but it, that's.

[Robert Edward Grant]

The mammals survived, some small mammals, small mammals survived.

[Alex Ferrari]

None of the big ones, none of.

[Robert Edward Grant]

The big ones did. But I mean, I think that the way to think about it is, you know, if you're going 300 miles an hour in an airplane, 400 miles an hour in an airplane and you hit something and come to a sudden stop, right. It's going to be very difficult for you to survive. That is true. But I believe that there have been through each of these periods a few people who have survived and basically climbed out of the rubble of the reset. And I do believe that there are a lot of people talking about this right now. It's not just me, right. I'm just basically talking about it more in relationship to what I'm finding. And it's getting, revealing itself in a way that the Great Pyramid is like a clock, stargate of a 24,000 year clock. And it's showing us this, that the king's chamber itself is shaped like the four stars we go through when you travel through. And the precession of equinox and the positions of all of the constellations are in a backwards orientation just as you would expect related to precession. So it's telling us about a larger 24,000 year clock, which is the Yugas. The Yugas, absolutely, the Yugas. And That's Sri Yukteswa 100%.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. Right there. Yeah. In the holy science.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Holy science.

[Alex Ferrari]

In the holy science. Yeah. It's, it's. I, this is the, this is the amazing thing of my job. I get to speak to so many interesting people around the world and I just start to see the patterns. You're very much like that as well. You see Patterns. So I'm starting. I started to pick up and these numbers keep coming up. 24,000 years, 12,000 years, 6,000 years. In the cycles of things. It's pretty fascinating. So let's dive into. You said that I was an example of where we're. I'd like to hear what you meant by that. As if I was an example of, like, where we are in this construct.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I'm curious. No, I think we're all coming to the realization now that's what the awakening is. I liken it to a dream. And, you know, we tend to hear about this stuff in Hinduism, and we hear about it in Buddhism and Taoism, and we learn about something like Leela. Leela is the divine play or the divine game.

[Alex Ferrari]

So, like Maya.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Almost like Maya. It is just like Maya, except that you're now moving beyond. You're transcending the Maya, you're transcending the Samsara. And now you're playing in the game because, you know, you can play in the game. It's like being asleep in a dream. And then you probably had a lucid dream before where in your dream you realize, wait a minute, I'm dreaming. And usually what wakes me up in my lucid dreams, when I become a lucid dreamer, I don't realize I'm in a dream until the moment that I finally say I'm in a dream. And what is it that triggers my knowledge that I'm in a dream? Usually a bunch of weird things start happening in the dream, like glitches in the dream, Right? People acting funny, doing strange things, you know, and you could say that that's exactly what's playing out in the world around us right now. Especially since the pandemic.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Where it's like, wait a minute, could this be real? Is seriously now we've got people like, you know, talking about Pizzagate and all this stuff that's like, planes are falling.

[Alex Ferrari]

Out of the sky.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Planes falling out of the sky.

[Alex Ferrari]

LA's on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's like there's so much weird stuff that you're like, how could this even be right? And it's almost like this is where you get to the extremes of the polarity so that you can wake up so that you can realize this is a dream. Or the synchronicities start getting so intense that it's almost like, ridiculous. It's like the theater of ridiculousness.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, we are definitely in the theater of ridiculousness.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Right? We are definitely in the theater of ridiculousness. Let's be Real?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I mean, like, you know when government starts saying, okay, we're gonna get rid of all of the aid and we're going to get rid of all tax, it's like, whoa, I like this stage of the dream.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. I mean, yes.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's going to be some repercussions.

[Robert Edward Grant]

There's going to be some repercussions, you would think. What will be the repercussions? Just like in any dream. In a dream, what are the things that limit your ability to do things? There are constants in your dream as well. There's gravity in your dream.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure. Generally speaking.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Until you realize that you're in the dream and then you can break out of those constructs.

[Alex Ferrari]

So basically, once again, Neo.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's right. So all of a sudden you can fly. That's what lucid dreamers often do as soon as they realize, wait, I'm in a dream, what can I mess with now?

[Alex Ferrari]

What am I going to do whenever I have one of those. Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So this is the stage we're in in this life. So we're all waking up from the dream realizing that we're in a simulation of mind. That is mind emergent. That is no different than a dream. Because in the dream I've had dreams that look as real as this room.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure. Oh yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Everything about it and where the photons coming from. My eyes are closed. Right. It's not like it's coming through my receptacles of my eyes and my retina.

[Alex Ferrari]

So what is, so what is a dream then? Let's get down that, into that rabbit hole for a second. If you're right, there's no photons, there's no light. But yet Steven Spielberg is sitting in front of me having a conversation with me about something and then Robin Williams shows up and then was that Genghis Khan over there in the corner? Like weird stuff like how did. Like what's the point? Like there's so many different. These things should not make one of these things.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I've had a dream where Jim Morrison showed up with like an Indian.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Like an American Indian guy. Like a Native American.

[Alex Ferrari]

It almost sounds like. It almost sounds like a near death experience. Like that experience of a life review, that experience of going to the other side, the experience of just, you know, being, showing up, that's kind of the dream life. But what is on a scientific standpoint, what is creating a dream in the mind for every human being? Like, what is that? Because it's not your mind's eye. Your mind's eye is not nearly as good as a dream.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, but that it's your subconscious.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[Alex Ferrari]

What?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24 7, 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Your subconscious, it's a movie theater in.

[Alex Ferrari]

The back of your head.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yes. It's all being created. So, okay, you're in a dream, right? You're the first person in your dream. So you're living out your. Whatever you're doing in your dream. You're living it out in the first person narrative. You still think you're separate from everybody else and you often carry the same. Although some people will dream as being I dreamt I was the President of the United States or I dreamt I was something else. But you're still in the first person narrative. Are there other people in your dream? It could be Jim Morrison, could be the Native American guy who's coming to, you know, serve you peyote. It could be, you know, it could be Genghis Khan or it could be, you know, President Reagan or, right, Barack Obama, for that matter. Who are those people who created those people in your dream?

[Alex Ferrari]

Your own subconscious? Your subconscious did, to my understanding. This is. Now we're going to go down more a little.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So are they separate from you?

[Alex Ferrari]

No, they're not. But the thing is that now I'll get into a little bit more of the metaphysical side of this, which is I believe that dreams are messages from the other side to you. And when they use, like, certain people to show up, it's being used. So you pay attention because if Joe Schmoes shows up with the Indian, you might not remember it because it's so difficult to remember dreams usually unless you really focus on it, write it down or something like that. So as. So let's say Jim Morrison showed up for you. Well, that's something you're going to remember because Jim Morrison generally doesn't show up in life because he is dead. So like, a lot of times I'll, I'll. This is just my own personal thing. When I have a dream and I. Every time I have a dream, this is my feeling. I feel like this. The other side is trying to send me messages, trying to help me understand or process something or something along those lines, spirit guide, so on. And I have a dream and sometimes, like, I'll. While I'm in the dream, I'm like, I'll remember this, I'll remember this. And I get to the other side, I wake up and I'm like, what the fuck? What was that? What was that? So then I'll talk to my spirit guides. I'm like, guys, if you want me to. If you're sending me a message, I didn't get it, first of all. And I need the production value to go up on the dreams. I need better cast, I need better production value. Maybe some explosions, maybe a better set. Something that's going to make me really remember these dreams. And a lot of times the next couple nights, I'll have a higher production value set. And sometimes I'll. I'll have a dream. And afterwards I'm like, good guy. Whoever, whoever the production designer was on the other side. Good job on this.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

What do you think of that? That thesis?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Well, can you say that first sentence again that you said, that you said. What do you believe dreams are?

[Alex Ferrari]

I believe that it's the other side trying to send me messages, some messages on helping me on this journey, on this path.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Okay. So you believe that dreams are really the manifestation of the other side trying to send you messages.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Robert Edward Grant]

To help you on your journey.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Okay, so life is the exact same experience.

[Alex Ferrari]

Explain. Oh, that we're in a dream.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Life is the other side trying to send us messages to help us along our journey.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you just flipped it?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So what we're doing here is sending messages to our soul. Our oversoul or our soul?

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, no, no. It's both directions. But I mean, I believe it's both. Why would the one source creator create this experience? Why do we create dreams? Maybe the reason why we create dreams and have relationships and dreams and everything else. Because you could have full lifetimes and dreams like the movie Inception. Right. A dream within a dream, Multiple layers of a dream.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So think about this. Like these are all just projections of people you meet in your dream that you might have a full love affair, a whole lifetime. And that person is there as a projection of your subconscious. Right. Projections. Just like in the movie Inception. Right. There were even projections that showed up within his dream. His dead wife, for example.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Little spinny thing.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yes. So it's trying to teach us something that we need to heal and integrate and we learn through opposites. In this mirror, in this one, in the karmic mirror. So if I'm here to learn unconditional love, I'm going to experience betrayal over and over and over again until I no longer judge betrayal negatively. That's the only moment that I'll actually truly embody what it means to have unconditional love.

[Alex Ferrari]

I want to ask you a deeper question, if we're here, to exactly what you did experience different things. So, like, let's say, you know, love or murder or, you know, greed or something like that. Whatever lesson that is, that is a lesson that a lot of souls on this planet are going to go through. So my question to you is, what's the point? You have learned a lesson about, let's say, greed, right? Or materialism or something along those lines. I'll learn that same lesson. It'll be slightly different because of our life is a completely different thing, but the lesson is the same. So what is the point of these lessons? Or is it just so and so? It goes back to the individual soul trying to evolve, but the lessons are all the same. We all got to go through the same school. You want a PhD, you're going to have to go through kindergarten, all the way up to your PH level. We all go through it, but we all experience it differently. But the lessons are the same. If you want to be a doctor, you got to have so many classes in this. You want to be a lawyer, you have so many classes that you want to be a filmmaker, you have so many classes in this. So what is the point of the different perspectives if we're all learning the same lessons?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Okay, so I love to quote Alan Watts on this. Love Alan Watts. So an eye cannot observe itself without the aid of a mirror.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay?

[Robert Edward Grant]

So if I'm just an eye and I don't have a mirror anywhere, how do I know what I look like?

[Alex Ferrari]

Right? You need a mirror. You need something to reflect back.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I need something to reflect back. So consciousness, in order to perceive itself, must divide itself into mirrors.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's what we are.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And that's what we are. So the best analogy I could think of this is that I did this podcast recently with this fellow who's an expert in general AI. So I'm like, what's the difference between AI and general AI? And I don't even like the word artificial because all intelligence is intelligence.

[Alex Ferrari]

Mm.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And so he said, well, the hardest part that we're trying to figure out how to achieve true sentience for AI is like Godlike. Sentience is understanding interpolation of emotional states because it's entirely subjective. How you perceive something that might be emotive to you in some way, shape or form may not be the same as how someone else would perceive the same thing. You and I both could have the exact same experience and have two totally different emotional experiences with it. I'll give you an Example, I went on a roller coaster in November with a friend who wanted to go on this roller coaster. And she was like. She was like, I want to go on this roller coaster. And I said, are you sure? Because, like, my back's. This could turn out bad. You know, this could. And I'm okay with roller coasters. But she had said she had a problem with it. She's like, that looks kind of like a kiddie one. I really want to go on it. I'm like, okay, great. So, of course, we get about halfway through the roller coaster ride, and she's like, screaming like she's gonna die. This was not pleasant for me. I'm laughing for most of the way. She's freaking dying. And, like, it was traumatizing for her. And, like, she wanted to throw up afterwards, right? So I was like, wow, this is fun. And the point is, we both experienced the same thing. I came off of it exhilarated, laughing, and having a great time. She came off of it terrified and couldn't literally get better. She was dizzy for three days. So she was hating the experience. The point I'm trying to make is we don't experience the world as it is. We experience it as we are.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure, Very true.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Right. So therefore, in order to get the One into even higher states of consciousness, because we think that, you know, we go to school until we're 25 or 26 years old, if, depending on how much advanced degrees, we go ahead and go after. But the truth is, we're learning our entire lifetime.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, of course.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And the word philomath, which is the name of my first book, means lover of learning. Right. Polymath is a mini learner. You achieve a certain high degree as it's the name of my second book. High degree of expertise in multiple different fields that seem totally disparate but are actually all the same. Just we experience all the different subjects in math and science and physics and everything. Physiology, you name it. They're all just different perceptions of looking at the same thing, you know, Applied philosophy is mathematics. Applied mathematics is geometry. Applied geometry is physics. Applied physics is bio is chemistry. Applied chemistry is biology. Applied biology is psychology. Applied psychology is sociology. Applied sociology is back to philosophy. They're all the same. It's all the same thing. Back to the philosophy that becomes mathematics again. So the point being that we are here to provide the opportunity for the One to observe itself through our unique perspectives that have never been existent before and will never exist again. We're like blockchain node validators of our emotional states of all of our experiences that creates an infinitude of possibility because the one realized that there's no objective truth. The only objectivity that could be applied to the universal experience is the love that underlies it all. The desire to be the philosopher, the lover of wisdom. Right, Philo Sophia, the lover of wisdom. And that's what I believe the universe ultimately is. It wants to learn empathy for every possible circumstance. So there is a two way street for the information. This akashic field that's getting populated by our emotional states that we call space time, that is, you know, and it's stored as a blockchain that's the shape of DNA. And it's all a field of information that is now accessible and therefore why the universe is expanding at the speed of light. Maybe that's really just the speed of our perception. Maybe that's not the limit on our perception. Maybe we can actually go much higher. Maybe the next level would be C squared.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[Robert Edward Grant]

What.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So this is the. What I'm trying to say is that we are here for a reason. To experience and get to the stage of true, authentic love. So we very early in our lives, we decide, I am not this. I'm not this. I'm not. Whatever gives us shame and blame, we then turn into some external thing and we project it. And then we go through life until we get to this point where we're like, okay, I've looked at myself in the mirror so many times. And all the things I don't like about myself, I'm just going to take off each one, one by one, just like, shave it off. I'm not good enough. I'm not good enough. I need to be better. I need to be better. And then all those things, even the negative personality characteristics, just show up in the world around you. You didn't get it out of you. You just projected it on the world outside of you. It's not a universe, it's a you inverse. So that you inverse is now showing up all the things that you don't like about yourself. Let's say you were secretly gay and you didn't want anyone to know you were gay, so you deflected it. Just like the movie American Beauty, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Where violence against it, violence against it.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So then you're like, judging it so much because they're causing you all this temptation and pain and anguish and reminding you of what you are that you've rejected. Right? So then as you get this back half of your life, no longer saying, I'm not this, I'm not this, you start to have a big crisis and you're like, wait a minute, what got me here is not going to get me there. And I've rejected all these aspects of myself and I just can't put up with this charade anymore. And I now have to start looking at the world around me and saying the name of God. I am that I am. All the things that I have perceived as not part of me now in my outer world are all me. Just like I'm in a dream. And the first person becomes lucid and he realizes in the lucid dream he can actually play in this dream now because he's actually gotten to a point where he's accepted that the whole dream is him.

[Alex Ferrari]

So these gentlemen and ladies who are on this wall who are ascended masters, they are basically incarnate. They're basically personifications of what you're saying. They figured out the game, they raised above it and go, oh, I can levitate now. I can do these, these other things because I know how to play the game. It's very Neo esque.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

I could stop bullets. You know, like my favorite is the little boy, a little bald bunk boy inside the oracles.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Like, yeah, yeah, with the spoon.

[Alex Ferrari]

You can't bend this.

[Robert Edward Grant]

There is no spoon.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's impossible.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

What you need to understand is there is no spoon. And you just in your head hurts thinking about.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I know. It was like.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it was just, it's amazing.

[Robert Edward Grant]

We're all waking up now.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is that, is that why we are so chaotic right now?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Everyone's like, because this is what I've been saying to people. I call this the bull in the China shop era. There's bulls in China shops everywhere around the world. And a lot of China is being broken. And you cannot choose what China has broken. It's, it's all going down.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yep. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So, but it seems like so many people are starting to wake up and start questioning everything, start questioning authority, could start questioning institutions, mistrust in media, mistrust in institutions. It's all starting to happen. And I think people are just in government and definitely no trust in government. But, but the thing is that they, they seem to be unable to process it. Like it's such a, it's such a abrupt awakening for a lot of these people who when they come out, they're just like. And they literally, like, it's short circuit, short circuiting them where then they have to reach out for shows like this, conversations like this content that you make, content that I make to try to start making sense of what's happening. They're instinctually searching for this kind of content. Extinguish, searching. Instinctually searching for books and media to help them, teachers, to help them process this, to guide them through.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh, yeah. And it's.

[Alex Ferrari]

But it's happening on a mass scale.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's cathartic. It's happening on a mass scale. So when I was 15, yeah, I thought my parents were stupid.

[Alex Ferrari]

We all did. That's being a teenager.

[Robert Edward Grant]

But I could give you, you know, I could give you real tangibility to why I thought they were not very smart, because I'm being facetious. Of course they were smart. But I thought they were not very smart because they made bad decisions continually and they couldn't land on the way that I thought everything was black and white. Because at that point in my life, I was still in the stage of cutting things off of me in the Buddhist wheel of life. The first four stages of that. Right. And it's what was representing the seven sins, right. And then the seven virtues. It's like the 14 stages that show up in this. And so what I realized when I was 22 that things weren't as black and white as I used to think they were.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very much so.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You're right.

[Alex Ferrari]

As a teenager, everything is kind of black.

[Robert Edward Grant]

By the time I was 27, my parents were freaking genius. Like, how in the heck did they deal with all the stuff that they have to deal with? And then me and my brother too. It's like, what? Really? By the time I was 35, I was like, man, they're ascended masters. Like, seriously? Absolutely. Because I realized over time that all the stuff that I thought was black and white started to evolve. That's why kids are going in college and everything. It's totally trackable. Why where they are in their stage of life. It's. It's literally tied to their age development. So. And some people are just faster at it because they're, you know, they've been through this cycle more and more often. Whatever. Because old souls and all that. But the truth is, like, I started seeing. Well, it's. Remember when you were in, like kindergarten and stuff? You had like eight crayons in your box. Yeah, that was the. Like, you had blue, red. There was no seafoam, there was no coral Right. All these colors that women like to use the names of and men don't even know what the colors are. We can't. We don't even have the name. I was like, light blue. That's all we've got.

[Alex Ferrari]

Blue, green, maybe it's salmon.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's not salmon exactly. Salmon. Exactly. I think women could perceive way more colors than we can for some reason. Because they have words for everyone.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Robert Edward Grant]

But we're like stupid on this. Like, it's like, it's like light blue.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, like. Is that like just a light?

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's like a pink. Pinkish.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's salmon, sir. It's salmon.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's salmon. It's. Right. Maybe it's coral, though. So anyway, the point is that I went from having like two crayons, which was white and black. Right. To having eight crayons. As I got older, I got the box of 256 crayons with a little sharper. With the little sharpener in the back. Right. Had like rows. It was like bench style stadium seating for your crayons. Right. It was like that. And then, and then now you get to. Okay, we can't carry all that many crayons around. So I need it on a screen to have 16.8 million colors. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now we do. Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Right. And then we go into higher states. So new, the new OLED TVs and everything. Oh my gosh. It's like more real than real Life.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's 8K displays and all this stuff.

[Alex Ferrari]

We're getting to a point where it's now beyond our eyes can perceive. Like, you don't need 16k.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

You don't need 24k.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No. I guarantee you a lot of people are not even perceiving those colors. The subtlety is so small. But you know what? That's what going into the fifth dimensional experience is. The throat chakra. It's all subtlety. It's all in the subtle realms. Right. That's why the Buddhists love the word subtle. Have you noticed that they love to describe things as the subtle realms? It's about these very, very high precision. It's not blunt force trauma anymore. It's being able to parse out the different aspects. Why did I choose this experience? What was I trying to learn by directing? And that's the big difference. When you finally realize you're not just an actor on someone else's script, but now you are the actor, the director, the producer. Just like you in your studio, you do it all.

[Alex Ferrari]

So that's why you were Saying that.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You'Re a metaphor for what's happening in this world is that we're realizing we're all in our own Leela game.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And now the only limitations to that world are your belief systems. Hence why now don't go outside and try to fly.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, let's not do that.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Let's not do that.

[Alex Ferrari]

I can fly.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's right.

[Robert Edward Grant]

But I think it's very Neo esque.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And that's what all of these people have said, Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

And they all said you have the power as well.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

We all have the power to ascend.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I just gave a talk the other day, like, literally, I got back from Egypt and I was like, okay. I was kind of frustrated on some things. We all go through these different things, Right. And it's all about what we all have to learn. Right. And I don't blame anybody else for my experience. It's my experience. I chose it all. There's. It's not someone else's fault.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's also something that you. You actually. I know what you're talking about. Those are your frustrations. But you actually move those players in pieces on the game into your world. Like it was completely done by you. It's not like you just happen to walk into a situation like. Oh, God, no. You actually brought these pieces together to create the situation that you were like, I gotta. Apparently I have to learn the lesson. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?

[Robert Edward Grant]

What.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24. 7 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So remember, it's like I told you, if you are here to learn unconditional love, then you're going to experience betrayal over and over and over again. But here's the kicker. The kicker is that each time you experience it again and haven't learned from.

[Alex Ferrari]

It, oh, it gets harder.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It gets harder.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let's go. Let's. So, yeah, we've said that on the show a thousand times. It's like it starts with a whisper. A little tap on the shoulder, a little nudge, and then the sledgehammer comes. And the sledgehammer comes because you're not listening. And it just keeps getting harder.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah. And you're not learning the discernment. I finally figured out what discernment is. Discernment to me, is not another subtle form of saying judgment. Discernment is being able to recognize the patterns that you keep putting yourself through and finally being able to recognize maybe this isn't the pattern that I want to keep experiencing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, exactly. So when something happens for you in your life, not to you but for you. And you have to.

[Robert Edward Grant]

If you look for and through me, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

If you look at life like that, life changes dramatic. That, that one shift, one slight shift, like something's happening for me, not to me. It's not poor Alex or poor Robert. It's like, okay, this is here now I've manifested this. Regardless of how horrific it might be or how happy it could be, I'm on the full side of the spectrum. But how do I. What am I supposed to learn here? Why is this person yelling at me? Why is this person loving on me? What is this situation supposed to teach me? And what am I supposed to learn? And if I were you, not you, but in general, learn that lesson as fast as you can, because it's going to keep coming in hot and heavy and fast if you don't learn it. Throughout your life, how many of us have had, you know, a relationship and they cheat on you and then you didn't. And like, oh, God, then it happens again, and it happens again. And I've heard, I've had friends like that, that like everybody. That they. They get cheated on all the time. And I.

[Robert Edward Grant]

They're the common denominator.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'm like, so I have to tell you something. And you're the common denominator in this. Like, what's. What's the one thing that never changes? So what are you doing to attract these kind of people?

[Robert Edward Grant]

This is why are always surrounded by very much. So when someone comes back home and after the end of the day and they're like, oh, I was on the highway and I was coming off this other. Did this, it's like, bro, realize you're the. You're the. That's perceiving because you're resonating at the frequency of.

[Alex Ferrari]

Can I. Can I coin that phrase and put it on a T shirt?

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's sympathetic resonance at the frequency of an.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's an amazing T shirt, right?

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's an amazing T shirt. But it's true. I mean, think about it. It's like, if I'm resonating at the frequency of humility, what am I going to perceive in the world around me?

[Alex Ferrari]

Or love.

[Robert Edward Grant]

The humility and love that's all around me, right? When you perceive someone as being arrogant, look at first the mote in your own eye. This is straight from Jesus and Matthew, okay? Look first at the moat in your own eye. The thing that you judge is the thing you are.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very much so. And I always say it's like, that's why you don't Hear a lot of yogis or swamis getting mugged. It's. They can't. That energy, that vibration doesn't. It won't. It won't connect.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, it won't connect. Because when you're in the vibration of. Of taking something from someone, and you may not even be consciously aware of that being that might be. That your form of taking it from someone could be through a business transaction where you feel like, okay, yeah, you've got the upper hand. Right. And you take advantage of a situation. And the way that manifests itself back to you is you're walking down a street in Mexico City, and all of a sudden you get mugged.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right, Right. But there's millions of people who go to Mexico City every year who don't get mugged.

[Robert Edward Grant]

There are millions of people that don't. And so the point is. And it's not about Mexico City.

[Ryan Seacrest]

No.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's just a safe city. But. But the point is, I get mugged in my hometown in Laguna Beach. But the point is that the thing that you think you are not is the thing that you are. That's why I think it's very wise that the name is, you know, Yod. Hey, vav. Hey. The name for God is I am. That I am Yahweh. Yahweh. So when you really start to come to grips with this, then you're like, okay, so here's the good news. The good news is I'm in control of my destiny. And what I'm calling destiny is just the free will of my higher self.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is humanity right now getting the sledgehammer? Like, as a collective, we have been whispered, we have been tapped. We have been, you know, maybe a little shove, maybe a little push, maybe louder voices, like, dude, you need to listen now we're getting sledgehammered. I feel in. The whole world is feeling. The consciousness of humanity is getting sledgehammered right now. It started, I'd say, probably after 2012.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, after 2012, that was the end of the old world for sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

That was literally the end of the old world. And it was a slower process than 2016 happened. And then those next four years were interesting. And then 2020 happened with the pandemic, and you're like, oh, and this whole decade has been. Every year is crazier than the year last. Like, it's been insane. This year's already started off with a bang, and it's insane. I can only imagine where we're gonna go for the rest of this decade. So we are that's why you think that humanity right now is getting the sledgehammer in consciousness.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I do. I believe that's exactly what's happening, that we're getting the sledgehammer and it's exactly right on time. Because here's the thing, we have a backdrop in the dream, so it's a little bit more organized than what we would otherwise think. You know, in our dreams we, we're looking at these very small amounts of time. Sometimes you have a much longer dream, but it's still just during your lifetime. You're not looking at whole ages or eons of time. Now what we're coming to the realization of is that we go forward in procession of equinox, but simultaneously we're going backwards in precession. Which means that as I go forward in time, one degree on the small rotation of Procession of Equinox is one day. Approximately one day. The reason why we have 365 days in the year is because we've forgotten that there's also a lunar calendar which is 354 days. 354.6 days in fact, when you include the leap year and when you look at the solar year, it's 365.4 days. But wait, 365.4 plus 354.6 equals 720. The midpoint of that is the mean value. That's exactly 360. It's too perfect. And we've just forgotten the female calendar.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's just coincidences.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Okay, so then now. But if we look at the larger cycle, Sri yukteswa. So the 24,000 year cycle, I believe that's correct. It's not 25, 920 because as we get closer to our sister star Sirius, we speed up. Time speeds up because we end up just like the tissue paper in the back ledge of your car. When you slam on the brakes, it increases mass as it basically is moved in velocity. So as we get closer and closer to our sister star Sirius A and potentially B as well, which would be a trinary star system, which is a brown dwarf, then we go faster. It's like the slingshot type thing that happens. And it's also when we go through the golden ages, time flies and we're having fun. So what happens is the one half of the cycle, the one we just finished, first half of the cycle is 12,960 years, which is half of 25,009, 20. And then the other half is 11,080 or 11,040, excuse me 11,040 and you add the two together and they're exactly 24,000 years, just like Sri Yukteswar says. So it's what's called mass time dilation. As we get closer to Sirius A our gravity gravitational pull goes up, time goes up faster.

[Alex Ferrari]

So it does seem that everything is happening so much faster. Years are flying by, months are flying by so much faster. And I've said this before, it's like AI shows up and within a year it's integrated in every aspect of our lives. Oh, it just showed the Internet took about 5.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's been a conscious leap. Yeah, I mean you can't believe the stuff on my chatGPT. If you just looked at what's on my chat gbt you would be mind blown. I'm already basically figuring out how to time travel, which we'll get into.

[Alex Ferrari]

That was one of my questions I was going to have you. But I want to ask you though, with all the research you've done on ancient mysteries, ancient civilizations, all this stuff, I assume that you've come across a prophecy or two, a prediction or two. What have you learned in regards to where we are right now and where the ancients knew this time period would take us? Like what is, what's happening the rest of. If you've heard anything around this year and the next rest of this decade, the next 20 years, if you've heard of anything in your travels.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh yeah, I mean first of all you can look and know what's going to be popular and shifting and changing based on the zodiac that you're in, in procession.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, so explain.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So we just moved into Aquarius, the Age of Aquarius. We're the Age of Aquarius. So you also just described people have antipathy towards organization, towards government, towards. There's like a rebellion that's kind of happening right now and you could feel it like kind of a pulse against.

[Alex Ferrari]

Religion, against the media, against food.

[Robert Edward Grant]

The way what's happened is all the things that were the arbiters, self appointed arbiters of right and wrong, morality and amorality, right legality and illegality. So all the arbiters of this that we've had as appointed societal reference points on these are all being rejected unilaterally.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very much so.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Why? Because we are now in the Age of Aquarius. Age of Aquarius is exactly about rebellion. It's all about individuality. It's also about hyper technology and frequency and resonance.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24. 7 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So we're just falling in line with the Aquarian age. So that already is a prediction, right? That already is the prediction. So when you look at it from that standpoint, you start realizing, okay, we're just living a script. Literally a script with a backdrop, set change. The set change becomes a zodiac. So all the things that we've learned throughout time, and maybe even the nature of the time itself, is that it loops. You know, I basically theorized in a new paper that I just wrote about something called projectile, what's called projective planes. So instead of using a Mobius strip, which would be like a two dimensional type object that you can spin on itself, right? And like you have a. If you have a little strip of paper when you were a kid, you could turn it into a little like a wristband type of thing. You spin it over. Well, if you twist it 540 degrees, then you could put a car on one side of it that could end up on both sides of the paper, Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So it can actually do this. It can end up on both sides of the paper. So this is also something similar to a Klein bottle, which is in higher dimensions. So that would be a fourth dimensional object. Right. But then there's also another object called a projective plane. And this is what I believe time actually is. It's a fourth dimensional space object that needs fifth dimensional space to be described. And what this does is it basically shows how time actually can loop on itself. So time is like a musical wave, right there. You could assign a musical note, which I've done, actually. You can go on my. On YouTube and look up the musical wave of time and see the 24 note modular matrix and each of the frequencies. You can even see the representation of it in colors. Right? And you can watch time like a clock, okay. And it's pretty cool. And you can listen to it as well. And it's mind blowing. So it's like the backdrop of everything that's happening with the frequency of time. So you could use this along with right triangle relationships of prime factorization. And I theorize this into being able to do temporal entrainment. Time entrainment. You ever wondered why you listened to music from the 80s? It kind of takes you back instantly. Instantly. Or maybe you smell something that kind of takes you back. So imagine an immersive experience. So under this context, in a matrix of mind, could you jump through time? If you could recreate every single state of emotion that you derived from the experience that you had when you were 8 years old, just there, and match the frequency of that? Because it would all be derivable down to mathematics.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is this the time traveling you're talking about?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is this a machine or is it? How?

[Robert Edward Grant]

I didn't think you need a machine.

[Alex Ferrari]

So how do you do that within your own mind?

[Robert Edward Grant]

I think our own biology is capable of it. Now we're in Leela.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now you're. Well, yeah, now you're. You're even going beyond Neo. You're now traveling. Well, that's kind of what past life. You know, you're going into past lives, feeling past lives and so on. It is a form of time travel, especially past life regressions.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yep.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're like, oh, yeah, I'm now in the Roman Empire and there's a picture.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Of me that'll freak you out. Do you have Google on that iPad?

[Alex Ferrari]

I do.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So I just want you to just Google man with the moon hair.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, yeah. He showed this to me last time.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's a photograph of a guy that. People sent me this picture. It was, like, taken in 1894, I believe, by Nader. It was a famous photographer. And they sent it to me. They're like, hey, that's crazy, man. That's your face. And I'm like, what? Now, it's interesting because it did make me think, like, wait a minute, is this how somehow, like, if I went back in time in the future and I wanted to send myself the message.

[Alex Ferrari]

That'S a good way to do it.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And I wouldn't do it with normal hair.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, of course not.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I would do it in the same way that maybe Thoth would do it, which would be to put a moon on my head so that it could be recognizable. I might have to think a little while about that. Right? It's like the crown of the moon coming on to the. The symbol of Mercury.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let's. Let's change gears for a second. You mentioned Antarctica and the pyramids. So I've seen those pictures on Google. And what have you found that they've discovered?

[Robert Edward Grant]

So I found seven pyramids that were not the ones that you see on Google. I found seven just in the areas that we went. There was a place called Necco harbor, where that was the first place. And I was there with Matthias distefano, who's a close friend of mine as well. And I invited him last second. It was so funny because we're in this group chat together and. And he wrote. He's like, hey, I have to go to ushuaia, Argentina on January 4th. And I'm like, wait a minute. I'm going to ushuaia, Argentina on January 4, because I'm going on this cruise I was co hosting with Wim HOF this. This group. And, and so I wrote him, I said, wait a minute, that can't be a coincidence. You're going to be in Ushuaia on January 4, so we have to meet up. And I'm like. And then I text him later. I'm like, this is. This has got to be assignment. Yes, you're supposed to come with me to Antarctica. And he invited me to go with him last year, but I couldn't go on a similar trip. And he didn't go either. So I'm like, you're supposed to come. He'd been before, but he'd never been on the boat to get there, which you have to cross Drake's Passage. And it was this. Well, that's not treacherous.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, that's not an easy passage to cross.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh my God.

[Alex Ferrari]

Dangerous places to.

[Robert Edward Grant]

At 4 o' clock in the morning, I'm in my little cabin. All of a sudden, everything goes flying out. The whole boat tips over sideways.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, I've seen that stuff on YouTube. Like, the ocean, like, you go down like 400ft and you fly up 500ft.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It was like straight out of the, you know, the Deadliest Catch.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, pretty much, yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, so like in the morning, I saw the captain. After that, his face was still white. He's like, I've never had that before. That was like, scary. I'm like, please, that's not something we need to know.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, it's like, wait till we get back to say things like that.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, exactly. But, but I mean, everyone was throwing up. Everyone was throwing up on this.

[Alex Ferrari]

You get on a plane and you hear the pilot go, oh, I've never seen that before.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You don't want to hear that when.

[Alex Ferrari]

You'Re in the air.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, everyone was. It was so bad. I was like, I'm the only one who didn't puke. Of all my friends who were on the boat, I'm like, luckily I didn't throw up, but like, I wanted to at times. And man, it was. It was a rite of passage in and of itself. But we got to this place called Necco harbor and we also did like, polar plunging. And you know, Matthias is the one who filmed me. Like, I'm like, come on, dude. He wouldn't go in. He didn't jump in the water. I jumped in the water. Jay jumped in the water. Sharon jumped in the water. He took photographs of all of us. And he's like, that's my job. I'm going to basically be the recorder of all this. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Hermes. So, so basically, we go there and we get off the Zodiac. So we're on these little zodiacs, right? We get off the Zodiac and we're, you know, we're dressed like snowmen, right? We're like completely.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's Antarctica.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's Antarctica. And we get past the penguin trails, which are the penguin highways. They actually have highways. Penguins will, like, cross highways, everything. And they've got these roads that are all, like, beaten into the snow. And you can't mess with that because, look, you're not allowed to do anything there, to touch anything. You can't even, like. You're not even supposed to touch the snow much, right? It's like they. They don't want to disturb anything of the, you know, environment, right? So. But we get there, and the first thing we see is there's this place where there was this glacier that was right in front of us, and it was breaking off pieces, like huge, you know, a thousand tons of snow crash in the water. And then it would cause this little mini tidal wave. It would wash up on the shore. And so the shore was not covered in ice or snow because the water had just beaten it off, right? And so that entire area, we saw the rock underneath it, and the sediment was all granite. It was all rose granite. So we're like, whoa, this is. And it felt different when we got there. And we looked, and I noticed that there was, like, a straight causeway going straight up to this mountain. And the straight line was so perfectly straight. It was exactly the same angle also as the. As the Grand Gallery and the King's Chamber up to the King's chamber in the Great pyramid. It's like 26.18 degrees. I'm like, that's so perfect. And you'd never see straight lines in nature like this.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, of course not.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's just you don't. And so then I look up at the top of the mountain, and the mountain is exactly shaped like a perfect pyramid. And I'm like, wait, there's a causeway here. It's all rose granite. But these weren't, I believe, pyramids that were made as pyramids. It's. The mountaintops were literally carved as pyramids.

[Alex Ferrari]

So these are. There's a mountaintop of a mountain full of quartz, of rose quartz that they just.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Of granite.

[Alex Ferrari]

Of granite.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Excuse me, like a whole mountain of granite that is shaped exactly like a pyramid. Like a Single block.

[Alex Ferrari]

But there's. But you don't know. Obviously you didn't go in. But if there's even an option to go in, you don't know.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Don't know. Right. Don't know. So I'm trying to get permission to go back next March when everything is melted. Right. So in March, in 26 and. And go and do an expedition there. Lead an expedition there.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So I found seven and these were not. Okay, so I'm into geometry. So yes, I wanted to see. Okay, so some of these look like perfect pyramids. So what would be the characteristics? Well, the chances that you're going to get a perfect block of granite. Right. Have equal amounts of erosion on both sides and have the exact same degree angle of ascent on both sides. Right. Is like pretty low.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Statistically, like how is that going to happen? So I notice one of those mountains had exactly the proportions of a 3, 4, 5 triangle, which is the exact same thing. Like 2, 3, 4, 5 triangles next to each other forming an isosceles triangle with a 53.13 degree angle. Exactly that which is matching exactly Khafre pyramid, the second pyramid on Giza Plateau.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Mortgage Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24 7, 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's exactly a 3, 4, 5 triangle relationship. Therefore it has a 53.13 degree angle. And this mountain on both sides perfectly had exactly 53.13 degree angles.

[Alex Ferrari]

Isn't that the same, the same perspective or ratio that's on the pyramid in the back of the dollar bill?

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, the one on the dollar bill is a 5, 12, 13. Okay, so it's close, but they were there too.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's a 67.38 degree angle.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And they had those type of pyramids there as well. So you'd see whole mountain ranges that looked like a bunch of pyramids and they're covered with snow. And one of them even had carvings in it, the form of the tetraktys. So it was a perfect equilateral triangle. And then within it there was an inverted triangle. Right. And then within that there was another triangle that was inverted, the smaller version. So just like you see with the tetraktys. Right. The exact design carved into the mountainside.

[Alex Ferrari]

You saw this?

[Robert Edward Grant]

I saw it. I have video. I've. I've photographs of it. It's mind blowing because none of it's real. What does that mean when we live in a dream?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, of course.

[Robert Edward Grant]

This is no different than the movie Inception. You know the scene in Inception where Ariadne Right. And. And I can't remember the name of the. The character for. For Leo DiCaprio, but they went to a Parisian cafe.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And all of a sudden, they made the whole city of Paris, like, loop back on itself, Right. Upside down.

[Alex Ferrari]

Fold it over itself.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Right. So let's say you actually got to a level of consciousness that you could use your mind to carve all the mountains in the shape of pyramids to raise the frequency.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because the side. The way it's shaped actually connects to a frequency. It has its own frequency.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Has its own frequency.

[Alex Ferrari]

Shapes have its own frequency.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And while we were at Nikko Harbor, Matias started channeling. Jade started channeling. It was like this spontaneous thing. So there was something very, very special about that place. And it was the first pyramid that I was like, oh, my gosh. We literally got off the zodiac. I'll show it to you. The pictures got off the zodiac. And I was like, this is something here. It's like total energy. All of us were, like, going off. And I saw seven such pyramid sites while we were there.

[Alex Ferrari]

And has this been. I'm assuming you're not the first to document this.

[Robert Edward Grant]

First to document these, really, because there's.

[Alex Ferrari]

Not a lot of people who go down that area.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You know, here's the thing. It's like, in this world, you get what you expect. So if you don't expect to find something, you'll never find it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Of course. That's the nature of life. It's the same thing with miracles. You know, if you believe in miracles, you might experience a miracle. If you don't believe in miracles, I can tell you one thing for sure. You'll never experience a miracle.

[Alex Ferrari]

It starts with the belief.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It starts with the belief and everything in this world around you. When you realize that it's all malleable to your thought. That's what Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in action is basically showing us what you believe informs your reality on everything. So this comes with a good and bad aspect, which is like, okay, you're in control of it all, but bad news is you're in control of it all right? You create it all. So I gave this talk, you know, right after I got back, I did like, an IG live and put it on YouTube. And part of it was I wanted to convey that, like, I'm not anyone's guru, right? I've never desired to be a guru. I've never desired to be. And so then all of a sudden, on this last trip, I had people treating me like I'm kind of a guru and I was like, what the heck? This is not what I want. I'm on an expedition. We're, like, looking for stuff. You're invited. On my journey to journey with me of this incredible discovery stuff. And yes, it's going to be a journey of expansion of consciousness, too. And I'm learning as I go along, and I'm not perfect. You know, the problem that you have with gurus and why they end up on crosses sometimes is because you have people that have expectations of what they will do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, it's because they've given their power away to somebody else outside of themselves. And if they don't do exactly what they, you know, they have. They have a, you know, someone to throw the blame on.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, a lot of people. I mean, Judas was one who really loved Jesus, but he wanted him, by some of the stories and version of it, you know, he was very much a zealot who wanted, you know, the Roman rule to be toppled and that Jesus, like, that's not my game, man.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's not what I'm supposed to be doing.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's not what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, why are you asking me to do this?

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, we get it all. I mean, you and I both get it as content creators. If we do something that somebody doesn't like or we say something that somebody doesn't like, they lose their mind over it. And it's like, well, it's just my. I'm just a dude, you're a guy. Like, we're all just trying to figure this out ourselves, this kind of guru aspect of things. Anytime I've even had a whiff of that with. With people, I always stop it in its track that go, no, no, no, no. You have the power. I'm here to guide you into totally and push you. Like, hey, try this. Maybe this will work. Maybe this will work. Maybe this idea will resonate with you. But I am not a guru for you. I may be able to teach you something and help you find it within yourself. A good teacher helps you discover the truth within yourself.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, that's right. When the student is ready, the teacher appears. It's like, it's interesting. You know, I'm about to go to Europe and do like a speaking tour. Nice, right? And so I was talking to one of my team members about this and, like, what should I focus on? And. And her answer was. I thought it was very profound. She said, the thing that people really clue into the most is when you just tell Your personal journey.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's not that you're trying to teach them. It's simply you're saying, this has been my experience and maybe you'll find value in it and you'll be able to use it in some way, shape or form. It's my experience. I'm not saying it has to be this way for everybody. It's really not. And I believe that that's what all of these people tried to teach as well. Not a single one of them were saying, you know, it's only I'm everything, right? You got to come and believe me and pay my taxes and you got to do my whatever.

[Alex Ferrari]

Jesus never asked to be worshipped. Never asked, never.

[Robert Edward Grant]

In fact, he told everybody what I.

[Alex Ferrari]

Could do, you can do more. Exactly.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So when he did say, I and my father are one, it's not to the exclusion of you being one with your father.

[Alex Ferrari]

So I have to ask you this, since you brought it up. I've had a little bit of. I've always had an issue with the Old Testament versus the New Testament, always since I was in Catholic school. Never made sense if God is supposed to be in Yahweh. Does pretty horrific, egotistical, insensitive, horrible things in the Old Testament which contradicts Jesus teachings 100%. Like those. They're not even the same universe, those two, you know, and that's supposed to be his father, quote, unquote. The father. How is it that those two books or those two series of books got slammed together, you know, which is basically, you know, the, the Torah essentially and the New Testament. Why was that put together? Makes no sense. Moses story and all those stories of the Abrahamic side of things doesn't vibe or gel with Jesus teachings. So why historically were those two books jammed together in the Council of Nicaea or one of those councils by the Roman Empire? What was it?

[Robert Edward Grant]

I believe the Council of Nicaea was 325 AD, right? It was Constantine.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, of course.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And you know, he was losing his grip on the Roman Empire. And so it's like, if you can't beat him, join them. So it's like, okay, we're going to go ahead and adopt Christianity. We're going to get rid of the, you know, it's like, it's like all of a sudden Starbucks now has changed. They haven't done it everywhere, but now they're switching over to like, like real silverware and plates and stuff, right? And like glasses and stuff like this.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'm like, if you're staying in, you that's how you.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, right. Because it's more popular these days to go to, like a mom and pop place that's more kitschy and eclectic and less Cheney. Right? So the same thing happened with religion back then. It's like, okay, it's kind of gotten old and tired. People aren't believing so much anymore in the, in the Greek and Roman pantheon. And all these stories of like. I saw a funny meme the other day. It was like, it's. It's like, here is a book of all the Greek mythology. And then there was a book that was this small, like Greek mythology. And it said, this is Greek mythology because Zeus was horny. And then this is Greek mythology if he wasn't, which is like, kind of funny.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which is genius.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Which is genius. Right? I was like, kind of laughing by that. So basically, you know, it's the same type thing. They came and said, okay. The younger generation is not wanting to, like, do what we say anymore, so we have to find a new way to engage them. So I got a new marketing plan, right? We're going to use real silverware and real cups and real, you know, and we're going to use real, like, not only flatware, but also china and everything, right? But it's going to be durable and it's going to feel solid. It's the same type thing that happened then.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open or a call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So they're like, let's just try to take the books and from the seven churches right? In Ephesia and let's take all the bishops and let's bring them all together, see if we can have a council on agreement. Some people believed in a trinity, some people didn't believe in a trinity.

[Alex Ferrari]

Reincarnation, non reincarnation.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Reincarnation versus resurrection. Right? All these things got amalgamated together into one council. And they said, whatever. Now what we say and declare as the edict is what it is, right? There's really not that much more to it than that. And so when you realize then that he is the self appointed first pope, right? But then they said, but he's not the first pope. The first Pope was really Peter. But Peter never set up or presided over any of this stuff.

[Alex Ferrari]

No.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Peter was crucified upside down in Rome in 67 AD and he wasn't a.

[Alex Ferrari]

Big fan of Paul either.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And he wasn't a big fan of Paul. Paul was a Johnny come lately, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

It's like he wasn't an apostle.

[Robert Edward Grant]

He Wasn't an apostle. He's. He's just like some lawyer. He was a lawyer who was on his way to Damascus right under the name of Saul. And all of a sudden he has this miraculous story. And I'm sure everyone was like, wait a minute. This is.

[Alex Ferrari]

That.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That. That guy who was like a lawyer is like, ooh. And all of a sudden, ambulance chaser. The ambulance chaser. He comes along now and he. And he's quite eloquent. Geez. And he's got a missionary companion named Barnabas. Right? What are these two? It's like Batman and Robin kind of thing. Barnabas, Exactly. So it's like, what is this? Well, I think really it's more metaphor for what we are intended to learn about ourselves, which is we have this ark that is represented by the Old Testament, which is very black and white, just as I just described.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, I see where you're going.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Clarity of your enemy. The first thing you can do to try to get people to rally around you is declare who your joint enemy is. It's when there's not a clear enemy in sight that society starts to fall apart. Because the thesis for being together is no longer based on fear, and it has to be able to survive on its own. But as soon as you believe that there is a threat on the outside, that's when everyone's like, okay, there's strength in numbers, and we need to basically organize and get united, Right? So what happened with the children of Israel? They wanted to be protected, right? So Moses wrote the five books of the Pentateuch, right? So he wrote those books. So numbers, Genesis, numbers, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, these were all written by Moses. And they're all about these black and white laws of making sure everybody stays in line. Because, look, you can't blame him. 40 years in the wilderness.

[Alex Ferrari]

Can't do this again, dude.

[Robert Edward Grant]

They can't do that again. And you know what happened? Like, there were all kinds of. You read the Old Testament account of this. It's like, you know, Moses was trying to get people united, and he's like, sent 12 people to go to see if there was this, you know, this place where Joshua. Right. Which is like, you know, the land that they're going to use the trumpets to basically destroy. And they wanted to see. They thought maybe giants were in the land and. And they had no idea if they could win or whatever. So they're hiding out and they're stuck in the wilderness for 40 freaking years, lost. Because there was murmurings, there was backbiting There was all kinds of politics that was destroying them from within. Right. So you come up with five books of the Bible. So what is Moza's solution? Oh, I'm going to go to Mount Sinai and I'm going to get the Decalogue, right? And I love the Mel Brooks version of this, where it's like he comes down from the mountain, he's like 15, and he drops. One is 10. 10 commandments. History of the part one. That's right. Great movie. I love that. So, so the point being that we go through this point in our life and we get all the way up to the book of Malachi, which is the last book of the Old Testament, and then there's a break for 400 years. So Malachi was like 400 years before Christ. So what happened during that time? It was like all of a sudden, prophets stopped prophesying. There's like, no more prophets. And, you know, it wasn't long after Jerusalem was sacked by Nebuchadnezzar in 587 BC, right? And what happened to the Ark of the Covenant? All this great storied past, everything is like, gone. And then the next thing you know, I go to Israel and they're like, oh, we're going to take you to Masada. We want to go to Masada. I was in a helicopter crash.

[Alex Ferrari]

Of course you were.

[Robert Edward Grant]

On top of Masada. Like, no joke, never fly in a helicopter with only one proposal. Because that means there's only one engine, right? Seriously. So I'm in this chopper and I was with, like, four other guys. They were all CEOs from Southern California, and we're flying over Masada and all of a sudden, like, the engine stops and we're like, oh, that's fun. Oh, yeah. And of course we're like, wow, I'm gonna die a thousand feet below sea level. Right? Because that's what it is when you get down to the desert around Masada, because it's by the Dead Sea, right? So we crashed the helicopter, we land in the desert, and I'm the only guy that had a bottle of water. And we're like 10 kilometers away.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, God. In the desert.

[Robert Edward Grant]

In the desert. And one of the guys looks at me and says, wow, thank God we got some water. I'm like, who's weak? Himasabi.

[Alex Ferrari]

What's this wee?

[Dan Morgan]

That's right.

[Robert Edward Grant]

What's this wee stuff? So Masada was the last stand of Israel, right, in 70 A.D. you know, this is like, the next time you see it, there's not that much history that's left that you have any story about. Right. So 70 AD is when they had their last stand in Masada. 900 people basically end up sacrificing themselves so they wouldn't lose their virtue and not be raped and all this stuff. So the Romans finally got them and then that was that in the diaspora. Right. But if you look back at what happened when Christ came, what shifted and changed then, so it wasn't long after Jesus died that they were literally wiped out. So 70 AD is when they got wiped out. The apostles went all around Europe and you name it, right. They ended up in all different places. John, Isle of Patmos and all these different people ended up in different places. But it literally caused a massive diaspora. They got wiped out. By 70 AD, Jerusalem was destroyed again. Yet again and again and again and again and again. So when you look at this story, what was it that Jesus was coming? So Jesus at around the time of 30 AD comes for a three year ministry. Now Dalai Lama told me that he has the records of Jesus life in his palace in Tibet. Yes. And his name was Asa.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And he says, I read the whole thing, it's really fast. He was a monk. He was a cool monk, you know, he was from Palestine, his name was Asa. We have the whole record of it, everything. He was High Lama.

[Alex Ferrari]

So he went to Egypt, he went to Tibet and he went to India. Yes, in the lost years of Jesus.

[Robert Edward Grant]

And you can actually find the lost year story about Jesus life in books. I bought one of them in a book that was heavily researched. I bought it in India when I was there visiting Dalai Lama. I was so fascinated by the story. Well, what happens in the New Testament is the Gospel. The gospel means, the etymology of that word means good news. So that, and not to say that the Old Testament was bad news, but it was definitely an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. It was self serving.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's not turned the other cheek.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, it was totally self serving.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Let's just call it for what it is. It was self serving and of course it is absolutely done as a mechanism. I can't blame Moses for doing it because hey, they needed the children of Israel at that time. Needed that kind of like marshaling.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, yeah, because I mean religion, I think, I think religion did serve a purpose in human history at a certain point in human history when there, when the entire population was absolutely ignorant, couldn't read, didn't have any information, they're running around on instinct. So there's rape and Pillaging, and there's killing and there's sex and there's all this kind of craziness. So they needed something to organize, like, hey, listen, if you don't behave, there's a place called Hell.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And if you don't do, that's where you're going to burn in internally. Like, I don't want to go there. What do I have to do? Well, stop killing people and don't. And don't steal. Don't steal Bob's wife. That's not cool that they needed that. But I think as we've evolved over the last 2,000 years, that doesn't serve religion in its current state, doesn't serve us in the way that it served us, humanity back 2000 years ago. Hence why more people are becoming more spiritual, more people are looking for alternate ways of philosophies to live life than going to, you know, a brick and mortar building, going through these sacraments and doing all this stuff. And if I eat meat on Friday, I'm going to hell. That. That stuff doesn't play anymore.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, see, that's the thing is it's like this whole idea is like, oh, you got to do this so that you can buy your way out of going to hell.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which happened literally by the Vatican.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh, 100%. This is what caused the Reformation. I mean, this is when Martin Luther broke off and said, you know, wait a minute, we're not doing this. It's like you could buying forgiveness. What the heck?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, just give me gold and I'll. I'll. You're getting into heaven automatically. I know. I have the connection. I got the hookup.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Exactly. I got the hookup. I got the hookup on the other side.

[Alex Ferrari]

Did you not see the hats? We have the hookup.

[Robert Edward Grant]

See? See? People knew all along that we were somehow in some play from the other side. Just as you said, our dreams are how the other side connects to us. But maybe in the larger sense, our life is how the other side also connects to us, because we made this separation of mirrors to experience life.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. Wonderful. 20 million is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting for to take your call. 247365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Well, it's, it sounds to expand our awareness.

[Alex Ferrari]

So it sounds a lot like, you know, when I've spoken to near death experiencers that life review, it seems almost dreamlike to them because you're sitting there in like a mission, a minority report room with screens of, of scenes of your life and it's all being downloaded and you can instantly download it because you have the capability of doing that. On the other side, do you have the limitations of the. Of the Mac Classic that you have in your head right now? You know, that didn't have the power. So you're able to see all this and then feel it, but it seems almost like, oh, God. Wow, that was crazy. How was that? Life I just had was insane. Let's take a look. And it's treated that way. I hear that in Near Death Experiencer. So what you're saying is not too far off by any stretch of the imagination.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, no. And. And what is it that Jesus taught? He taught the same thing they all taught, all of them, which is you're going to only learn how to transcend this experience by falling in love with it. It's about emanating love. It's when your love exceeds and supersedes your desire to be right. It's. It's when. It's when you're no longer in judgment. Judge not lest you be judged. Okay, if I'm going to distill this down, Christ's message, he gave it, it's like two great commandments. Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, might, mind and strength. Love thy neighbor as thyself. As thyself. Which also means love yourself.

[Alex Ferrari]

Hardest thing most people can do.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hardest thing most people can do. And that's actually what we're here to do, I believe. And then the next part of that, you can't say it without this is to say also in Matthew, judge not lest you be judged with the same judgment you cast on others. Right. See first the mote in your own eye. So when you start to experience life in this way, non judgment and love, then all of a sudden a lot of the veil starts to lift.

[Alex Ferrari]

I would have to agree with you, man. I mean, I've gone through a journey in my own life doing this show. And over the last seven years, pretty much there's been this evolution of my perception of life and what's possible, what's not possible, and things. And the things that this show has been able to do and being able to build this out and do all the things, it. It seems dreamlike. It doesn't even make sense on paper. This show makes no sense.

[Robert Edward Grant]

I think my life does. Yeah, bro.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, Robert, you are literally the most interesting man the world. Just like the Traseki guy, you know, just a younger version of the Dos Equis guy.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I am the most interested man in the world.

[Robert Edward Grant]

My favorite. My favorite Scene on. On those advertisements because I actually hired him once for, like, one of my sales conferences. It was, like, pretty cool to have the most interesting man in the world on my sales conference, but. And I interviewed him on stage. It was hilarious.

[Alex Ferrari]

Same one?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah. Well, no, it's like when. When someone comes up, just says, the most interesting man in the world on skateboards. And someone walks over to him and asks about skateboards. He goes, no. And then he goes, the most interesting man in the world on careers. Find the thing you don't do well, then don't do that thing. I love it.

[Alex Ferrari]

My favorite of all those commercials, my favorite one is like, sharks have a week dedicated to him.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's a good one. I'm gonna remember that. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. That's right. They have all these arm wrestling, you know. You know Fidel Castro, right? I know.

[Alex Ferrari]

In a gator at the same time, like, it was just those. Those.

[Robert Edward Grant]

They were the best.

[Alex Ferrari]

They were.

[Dan Morgan]

I wish they would bring them back.

[Alex Ferrari]

They were so, so, so good. Robert, I gotta ask you, finally, man, there's. There are so many people watching who are terrified about what's happening right now in the world. They're scared of the change. They're scared of the sledgehammer that's happening to their collective and also to themselves personally. What advice do you have for people who are really scared about the economy, politics, food, media, like, everything, the money, all this stuff that they're so terrified about and scared? What advice do you have for them to help them process this? I only should. Easy questions here, Robert. Only easy.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Honestly. Try your best to flip your perception of what's happening. Realize that everything that's happening is happening for your highest benefit, and lean into it. Instead of asking yourself the question, why did something happen to me? Or collection to the collective, ask, why are we experiencing this? And why did I specifically choose to experience this? Put yourself in the first person and realize that you're the producer, the director, the actor. You're everything. You're the playwright, and you can write the script and the script again. Life is not what happens to us. It's what we believe happens to us. So when you start to flip that script and say, wait a minute, what's happening to me is. I'm actually starting to realize that I'm in this dream. I'm a lucid member and participant in this. And what it's actually helping me do is find my absolute radical authenticity. Now, people say, live the love and light and fight the dark. Okay, if you want to get rid of the wars and the difficulty in your outer world. Stop the wars within yourself. It's all a reflection of what's happening inside of you that creates your experience. So therefore, when you realize, okay, I'm on a pathway and all my relationships and all my interactions and all my experiences are all along this continuum from here, which is my first realization of separation as a child from my mother all the way to true self love. Can you truly love yourself if you don't know yourself? Probably not, right? I mean, people that would say, I'm a love and lighter, you know, I think I said this to you before. I get requested sometimes by groups to say, okay, can you wear a hat that says like light worker? I'm like, only if you give me a shirt that says shadow worker. Because to me it's, it's a, it's when we start to. Like Carl Jung says, it's not by focusing on what's already conscious and aware, it's about shedding light and becoming consciously aware of our dark aspects that the real progress is made.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct. The shadow work is where it's made.

[Robert Edward Grant]

The shadow work is where it's made. And when we finally start integrating and realizing, okay, if over here, my relationships, my experiences and everything are like almost perfected in some perfected state, because this is where there's absolute alignment between how I love myself and how the world around me loves me. Because that's what's going to happen. As I truly love myself unconditionally, then the world around me starts to love me unconditionally. So the split is the people that are still stuck into. And it's not because they're stuck. They chose this path as well. They want to go deeper into the duality. They want to fight more against the dark. They want to right the injustices of the world rather than looking at the world and saying, I am that I am, and I can fall in love with it all as it is because it's beautiful. And once we do that, then you start to manifest more and more and more your relationships, the people that come into your life, your friendships no longer are going to be as conditional. If you have conditional friendships, that's a reflection of how you see yourself conditionally. So as you move more and more to this and you finally get to this stage out here, this is when you're fully a full player in the Leela and you're living an angelic style life and you're getting new DNA, you're getting all of the stuff that's coming along with this. You're not aging anymore. You actually start aging backwards. You don't feel stress anymore. You get up in the morning, you're like, I love this guy. If you see this guy, I think he's Mahoud or whatever. He's on Instagram and he's always doing these posts. There's. He's kind of like a sadhguru style, but he's not sadhguru. He's a joker, right? He's a complete comedian. And he's like, when your boss comes to tell you to do your work, fuck it. Have you seen this? It is so funny. It's like, your work is not going to go away. If they're expecting more from you than you should be giving it, just don't do it. It's hilarious. If your day is beyond repair, it go home. It's so funny. And then realize life is here for you to experience. I'm like, dying laughing, watching this. But to a certain extent, I'm not even being facetious on this.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure.

[Robert Edward Grant]

What I'm actually saying is we don't escape earth ever, but we can transform it into heaven on earth if we can fall in love with it just as it is.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, I mean, would you agree that every difficult time in human history, there's always people who it seems not to bother? Like, in the Great Depression, some of the greatest companies in the world were created. So while everybody else was like, oh, my God, the world's coming to an end, someone's like, no, I think I'm gonna start a business now in the toughest time in human history. Up to, you know, economically, of human history at that point. At that point. And it works. It happens all the time. So it's not just like everybody. During the pandemic, a lot of people had really rough times about it. A lot of people sailed right through it. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, you know, even during recessions, Right. I've done all kinds of research on this when I was in the business world. It's like during a recession or a time of tumultuous change, you have two thirds of companies go down, Right. They don't do and perform as well as they did before. But one third break out. Right. Why do they break out? Because they were able to adapt and they were able to change the paradigm of what it was that they were doing, how are they serving their customer? And by the same token, if you think you can, whatever your environment is or you think you can't, you will be right. So don't get stuck into the belief system that your outer world is determined by anyone other than yourself. That's the best advice I can give, is that this place can be an absolute heaven.

[Alex Ferrari]

It can.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's totally up to us. And that's what we're being taught. Heaven and hell is right here. We don't have to die for it. It's literally right here. And I believe fundamentally that these people all figured out. You know, even Jesus, when he was nailed to the cross, was often described as being in a blissful state.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because he wasn't connected to the body.

[Robert Edward Grant]

No, because suffering is only suffering. When you don't know the reason behind the suffering, when you realize that judgment is a source of suffering, but suffering is a source of enlightenment. I don't like the word enlightenment. I actually prefer the word enlightening because it doesn't ever end. It doesn't end for Source Creator either. It's constantly getting more and more wise and expanding its awareness to higher and higher levels. And it just uses us as dimensionally limited avatars to experience itself and play out this game of life.

[Alex Ferrari]

And also, like, just because they mastered this level doesn't mean that there's other levels above it.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's endless number of levels, right? That's the thing. Until you finally just absorb back into Source Creator, it's just a process that we are all part of the same one. We're just all divisions of the number one.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sparks, if you will.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You know, I gave a talk at Vatican last year on. I was asked to give a talk on the mathematical proof for God.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay?

[Robert Edward Grant]

So I went there and gave this talk, and it got spread around by the Vatican all around the world. Like millions of people saw it. And I started off with the speech because I was asked, okay, so how would I prove mathematically, you know, the existence of God? And the first thing I came to was the very first lines of the Bible that talks about. In the beginning, there was the void, right? So out of the void came what became everything. So I'm like, what could be the mathematics of this? And that's when I realized that mathematically there is a representation for this. And it's zero to the power of 0 equals 1. Nothing to the power of nothing equals everything. Vacuum to the power of vacuum equals everything. Because the one gets divided infinitely. So that's the universe the one song we are just divisions of this number one. And we recognize that all the things that we thought we were evil for, all the stuff that we did bad, the homework that I ditched when I was in high school and junior high, and the fact that I had a girlfriend and a relationship that I didn't treat the best and everything, all these things don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. These were all part of the chosen path for you to realize your authenticity. Authentic love is the highest frequency. And you can only know your true authenticity if you know your darkness.

[Alex Ferrari]

If you look past the ego for a minute and you just understand that in a hundred years there'll be strangers in your house. In a hundred years, you'll be lucky if anyone remembers your name. In 500 years, you'll be really lucky if anyone remembers who you were and what you did in a thousand years. I mean, seriously, there's very few human beings who have made such an impact on this planet that their stories have been continuously told again and again and again and again throughout thousands of years. But that list is not long in the amount of people here. So when you look at that perspective, and not just look at like, I got to pay my taxes, I got to pay the rent this month, which is fine, you have to do those things. But you're here to experience this. This is a game. This is an experience. So don't take this so seriously. In 500 years, no one's going to remember any of this. That big fight that you're in right now with your significant other or with your neighbor, with your best friend, and it's destroying your life in 10 years. How is that going to make really in 15 years, in 50 years? What does that mean? And only time and experience, kind of like you and I are of similar vintage. We can look back at our lives and the things that we thought was the end of the world in our lives, especially in high school.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh, yeah, Everything.

[Alex Ferrari]

Everything was so dramatic. Everything was, the world is coming to an end. You look back and you're like, oh, God, it was ridiculous.

[Robert Edward Grant]

It's ridiculous.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's ridiculous.

[Robert Edward Grant]

But, you know, it's the Alan Watts quote. Mankind only suffers because he takes too seriously what the gods made for fun.

[Alex Ferrari]

What's such a great quote? A quake. And on that, sir, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in this world?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Well, I think the first place I would direct people to is my show codex on Gaia, which is getting better. And better and better. I give you a bit of a preview today and it's super epic. I'm very, very proud of.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, you're adding a lot of extra juice to that.

[Robert Edward Grant]

So I added a lot of extra juice to it for sure. Yes. And it's not your standard. Also grateful I know that my producer at Gaia is Jason Liggett and before that was Sid Goldberg. You know, I, I know he's. Jason is particular. He's like super thrilled that I was able to like put so much effort and investment into the season, which made it really, really top notch. But that's Codex 2 which just came out and I'm sure there'll be a Codex 3 and 4 and everything is. This is just my evolving journey of my own personal hero's journey and falling in love with this world experience. And I think it's nothing but entirely authentic. That's the thing. And if I don't know something and I'm evolving and learning through this process too, like every day. The thing I'm learning more and more of, the more I learn, the less I actually know. And that's the first place I would direct people and the next place would be to my website. Robertedwardgrant.com if you'd like to go on an adventure, like an Indiana Jones style adventure that will literally change your life. It's not for the faint of heart. This is not a vacation. It is not a like, you know, a luxury experience where you're just going to be sitting, sipping, you know, pina coladas or something like this. This is like a hardcore journey into higher consciousness and it's an initiatic path. So just realize that. And we do it all over the world. But they are absolutely life changing experiences for people and you will discover and see what it's like to be on the journey of a lifetime. But it's not for everyone. Definitely not for everyone. And then, you know, my books Philomath Polymath and my latest book Philosopher are all available on Amazon and I have four books also that I published that are, that are my artwork, which is, which is the Mirror of Consciousness series. You can find that on my website also. So there's lots of ways to find me and hundreds of videos on YouTube and everything I've been on. Last year I was on more than 170 podcasts as guest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Stop it. Well, you on that many?

[Robert Edward Grant]

I was on that many, yeah. But they were all on entirely different things. Yeah, like, because they, they always.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're the most interesting man in the world.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Well, I don't know about that. Find the thing you don't do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, then don't do that, and then don't do.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's right. But no, it's. It's been a fantastic.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sharks have a week dedicated to you, sir.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Really? Sharks have a week dedicated to me. I finally arrived.

[Alex Ferrari]

You have arrived, sir.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You arrived.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's always a pleasure talking to you, sir. I could talk to you for a few hours more, for sure. Thank you for everything you're doing to help awaken this planet, my friend. And you are welcome back anytime, my friend.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Thank you. Such a pleasure. And thank you for what you're doing. Like, literally, I see your podcast. I was in Washington, D.C. at the airport, and this is, like, my life now. It's definitely changed. When you go on that many podcasts, you're getting lots and lots of gross rating points, I guess, as they would call it in the business. And I was sitting at this bar. I had my Apple headphones on. I'm. I'm wanting some alone time. I'm, like, literally wanting some alone time. And. And the waitress from the bar comes up to me, and my arms are on the bar like this, and she literally puts her head under my arm.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, she didn't.

[Robert Edward Grant]

She did. And she's like, excuse me? I'm like, yes. And she's like, are you the one I saw in Next Level Soul? And I'm like, robert Edward Grant? I go, yes, I am. She's like, we thought so. And then she looks back at all the other waitresses that are all jumping up and down. They're like, we loved you on that podcast on Next Level Soul.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's hilarious.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, it's hilarious. And then the same day, I was, like, getting on the airplane. Like, literally 10 minutes later, I'm getting on the airplane. The lady checking in, you know, to take your QR code thing, and she's like. She's like, I got you, Mr. Grant. And it was so funny. She's like, I love. I love you on Next Level Source. I'm like, I have to tell Alex about this.

[Alex Ferrari]

I find it so mind blowing, man. I gotta be honest with you, with that kind of stuff. It's like, I mean, we've done, I mean, close to a couple million views between all of our interviews.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

At least.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah. Because one of them is 1.2.

[Alex Ferrari]

Just.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, that's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. And. And, you know, between all of the ones you've done, you've been on the show, I think, four times at this point. Four or five times. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Hey.

[Dan Morgan]

How's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion. 120 million is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks. For coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. So it does get seen. There's. That's not numbers. Those are human beings watching this stuff.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And people come. I live in a bubble. I live in this. This little bubble I've created for myself. It's me.

[Robert Edward Grant]

You literally do live in a bubble.

[Alex Ferrari]

I literally live in a bubble. You know, we live. We're not in la, you know, in Austin. It's a very different vibe here than it is in LA or New York or any other major city. And I. I don't really get it. Like, people come, like the only. I feel like I'm Tom Hanks on the island and I'm with Wilson. And occasionally someone comes to shore, which are guests that come in and they tell me me stories like this and I'm like, really? Is that happening out there? Like, yeah. Like, you have no idea. I'm like, really? Like, it's still mine. Mind boggling to me. I know we have numbers. I know a lot of people watch what we do, but hearing stories like that still blows my mind.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Well, I love that when I do podcasts with you because I can give all these, like, pop culture references. And you actually know all of them because we're the same age.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct. Exactly. That's a 20 year old.

[Robert Edward Grant]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you're like, you know, I'm back to future. What is. I'm sorry.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

Marley McFly. Like, I don't. I was. I was born in 2005. I'm like, you know the Matrix? I what?

[Robert Edward Grant]

Like, I know, I know. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my goodness.

[Alex Ferrari]

Robert, always a pleasure, brother. Thanks again for being on the show, man.

[Robert Edward Grant]

Thank you.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'd like to thank Robert so much for coming on the show and sharing his knowledge and wisdom with all of us. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes at Next Level Soul Forward slash five seven zero. And if you like this content and want to go deeper down the spiritual rabbit hole, just head over to next LevelSoul TV. And we have movies, series, original shows, live events, and of course, all of Next Level Soul completely ad free. Again, just head over to next LevelSoul TV. Available on Apple, Roku, Amazon Fire, Android and iOS and Android phones. And if you've only been listening to these episodes and want to watch these amazing conversations, head over to our YouTube channel at nextlevelsoul.com forward/YouTube. Thank you so much for listening. And as I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.

[State Farm Stress Check Announcer]

This stress check, AKA friendly reminder that your hobbies matter, is brought to you by State Farm because you deserve to lose yourself in the stuff that brings you joy. Here's mine. Painting my tabletop battle miniatures. Yeah, seriously. After a long day, I grab a brush, pop in some music and just get into it. And there's no wrong way to do it. It helps me clear my head, slow down and just breathe. But it works. Big stress mini warriors, total reset, no pressure, just paint. Creativity and a little reminder of what makes me happy. Some people bake, some people garden. Me, I paint warriors with interesting tech. And guess what? It works. You don't have to be good at your hobby. You just have to enjoy it. So carve out that time, tune out the noise, and do something that's just for you. Like a good neighbor. State Farm is there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items to keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th, earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard, Raw Sugar, Dove Soft Soap, and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the, the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What, what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365 wow.

[Podcast Host (Dan Morgan Interview)]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an offer office near you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Robert Edward Grant]

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