Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari – Episode NLS 573

VATICAN ALTERED JESUS' True LIFE & TEACHINGS! Never WORSHIPED the BIBLE'S GOD! with Paul Wallis
Date: April 12, 2025
Guest: Paul Wallis (Biblical Scholar and Author)
Host: Alex Ferrari

EPISODE OVERVIEW

In this thought-provoking episode, Alex Ferrari welcomes back biblical scholar Paul Wallis for a deep dive into Christianity’s lost origins and the true teachings of Jesus. Wallis unpacks the profound discontinuity between the Old Testament’s "Yahweh" and the Father that Jesus spoke of, arguing that much of Jesus’ original message has been suppressed or rewritten by Church authorities—especially the Vatican and Roman Empire. They discuss alternative historical narratives, lost histories, early polytheism, Jesus’s missing years, and humanity’s deeper ancient roots. The conversation challenges orthodox interpretations, aiming to deconstruct centuries of dogma and re-empower individual spiritual seekers.

KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Jesus and Yahweh: Are They the Same?

(Start – 14:25)

• Paul Wallis asserts that Jesus never openly identified Yahweh as the Father he preached about, and that the core beliefs and teachings of Jesus are fundamentally at odds with "the God of the Old Testament."
  • "Nowhere is the name Yahweh." (Paul Wallis, 05:03)
• He highlights that Jesus used specific Aramaic phrases (e.g., Abba, Amen, Talitha, Effatha) but never invokes Yahweh by name, unlike the Old Testament.
• Wallis explains that the New Testament was deliberately bound with the Old to force an artificial continuity.
• Example: In John 8, Jesus refers to the "Father" of the Jewish leaders as a liar and a murderer; Wallis suggests this may refer to Yahweh, flipping centuries-old interpretation.
  • "Why does Jesus not mention Yahweh once through all the Gospels?" (Paul Wallis, 04:52)
  • "Jesus says, 'No one has ever seen the Father I'm talking about.' Well, how can he say that if Yahweh is the father?" (Paul Wallis, 06:45)

2. The Moral Discrepancy: Old Testament vs. Jesus’ Message

(14:25 – 21:00)

• Alex and Paul discuss the glaring differences: Yahweh’s violence, xenophobia, and misogyny, contrasted with Jesus’ radical love, forgiveness, and emphasis on the divine within.
  • "If you worship a God who’s violent, you have to justify violence... We’ve had 2,000 years of history showing that’s certainly the case." (Paul Wallis, 17:47)
• Questioning God in church/school settings was often not tolerated—"people got thrown out for asking obvious questions."

3. The Merging of Yahwism and Christianity: Power and Control

(21:00 – 29:47)

• Wallis traces how ancient Judaism shifted from polytheism/henotheism to militant Yahwist monotheism to centralize economic, ritual, and political power in Jerusalem.
  • "Christianity had a similar thing happen at the time of Constantine..." (Paul Wallis, 23:41)
• Constantine’s adoption of Christianity further fused the image of a warlike god with Roman imperial power—art and literature deliberately painted Jesus as a military figure.

4. Ancient Polytheism and the Edited History of Judaism

(29:47 – 38:36)

• The early Hebrew faith was polytheistic, with multiple Elohim (“gods/beings”) recognized; only later reforms erased or marginalized these stories.
  • "Strictly speaking Judaism wasn’t polytheism. It did believe in many gods... but you must only worship one [henotheism]." (Paul Wallis, 31:16)
• Key: Even the Ten Commandments acknowledge the existence of "other gods."

5. Origins and Age of Biblical Stories

(38:36 – 41:15)

• Many biblical stories—creation, flood, etc.—are retellings of much older Sumerian, Babylonian, and Mesopotamian myths, stretching back 6,000–7,000 years or even further.
  • Sumer as the originator of civilization, with stories reaching back "200,000 years and more" via king lists and epics.

6. Paul the Apostle: The Real Influence and Controversies

(41:15 – 55:21)

• Paul wasn’t one of the original apostles and never met Jesus in person.
  • "No one ever leaves Christianity because of the teachings of Christ... They leave because of the teachings of Paul." (Alex Ferrari, paraphrasing Aaron Abke, 41:36)
• Paul’s letters include both inspired, mystical views (e.g., definition of God as Source in Acts 17) and problematic rules later turned into law.
• Wallis suggests that Paul opposed the continuation of Yahwist laws and even clashed with Peter and the other original apostles.

7. The Resurrection: Mainstream vs. Original Belief

(50:45 – 55:21)

• According to Wallis, Paul did not describe resurrection as a physical event, but rather as a spiritual continuation—more in line with Platonic and Eastern philosophy.

8. Alternative Stories of Jesus’ Death and "Missing Years"

(55:21 – 72:29)

• Wallis discusses theories that Jesus may have survived crucifixion and traveled east (India, Tibet, Japan, Egypt).
• No canonical evidence exists for Jesus’ life from ages 12–30; alternative traditions claim he studied with spiritual masters across Eurasia.
  • "There are long standing local stories... and you have to ask on what basis do we reject them?" (Paul Wallis, 63:01)
• The canonical exclusion of these years is seen as deliberate by later Church editors, potentially to suppress alternative spiritual traditions.

9. "The Eden Enigma" and Ancient Contact

(79:36 – 89:47)

• Introduction of Wallis's new book, "The Eden Enigma," decoding ancient carvings in Turkey and Armenia.
• The carvings, echoing symbols found across Mesopotamia and elsewhere, may record contact with advanced “others”—perhaps even extraterrestrial—in the wake of global catastrophes.
• Legends across Sumer, Babylonia, Norse myths, and elsewhere all point to ancient interventions that rebooted or upgraded human society.

10. Human Origins, Ancient Cataclysms, and Giants

(89:47 – 104:14)

• Human civilization shows signs of interventions 10,000, 60,000, and even 200,000 years ago, mirrored in global flood legends, Sumerian king lists, and stories of “feathered serpent” beings.
• Wallis weaves together Aboriginal, Mayan, Sumerian, and biblical accounts to suggest knowledge transfer and even deliberate genetic or societal engineering.
• Discussion of the reality of giants—both as cultural memory and supported by fossil records (Neanderthal, Denisovan, Hobbit species, Gigantopithecus).

NOTABLE QUOTES AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On Jesus’s Relationship to Yahweh:
  "All the gospel writers...are eager to show that Jesus is a successor to and replacement of Moses...He’s bringing laws that delete and replace the laws of Yahweh. That’s really the big picture: discontinuity."
  — Paul Wallis (10:07)

• On Moral Justification and Religion:
  "If you worship a God who’s violent, you have to justify violence. And once you’ve justified violence, then you might use violence in God’s name..."
  — Paul Wallis (17:47)

• On Paul’s Definition of God:
  "'By Theos I mean the source of the cosmos and everything in it, that in which we all live and move and have our being, of which we are all offspring.' ... I love that definition because it’s really a non-religious definition."
  — Paul Wallis (43:42)

• On Historical Narrative Manipulation:
  "The confusion has been very deliberately created by rulers who wanted to hijack religion and use it to put a divine imprimatur on anything and everything they want to do—even if it’s grotesque and violent."
  — Paul Wallis (29:38)

• On Otherworldly Contacts and Ancient History:
  "Ancient carvings in the mountains of Turkey carry memories of ET contact from the dawn of civilization…what emerges is of a reboot of the ecosystem..."
  — Paul Wallis (80:13)

• On the Power of Individual Experience:
  "The kind of experiences Christians report are experienced by human beings all around the world...They are not endorsements of a particular theology...They are part of the human experience."
  — Paul Wallis (77:08)

• On Giants:
  "Now we know that we lived alongside Neanderthals, that we lived alongside Denisovans...and we know that there was Gigantopithecus as well...That was the human experience."
  — Paul Wallis (101:06)

TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

• 04:49 — The disconnect between Jesus and Yahweh
• 10:07 — How Jesus’s teachings replaced Yahwism
• 17:47 — Problematic moral legacy of worshipping Yahweh
• 23:35 — Constantine’s fusion of imperial power and Christianity
• 29:47 — Early Hebrew polytheism and the suppression of other Elohim
• 38:36 — How old are the Biblical stories? Sumerian roots
• 41:15 — The influence (and myth) of the Apostle Paul
• 50:45 — Resurrection: Orthodox vs. Paul’s original spiritual version
• 55:21 — Did Jesus survive and go East? Alternative traditions
• 63:01 — Evaluating the legitimacy of non-canonical Jesus stories
• 67:35 — Jesus’s “missing years” and travels
• 79:36 — The Eden Enigma: decoding ancient carvings, ancient visitors
• 89:47 — Humanity’s prehistoric interventions and advances
• 100:49 — The reality and legacy of giants
• 104:34 through end — Reflections: living a fulfilled life, philosophy, empowerment

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS

• There is substantial evidence within even canonical texts suggesting Jesus’s teachings radically diverged from the Old Testament’s portrayal of God.
• Much of today’s Christian orthodoxy is a product of centuries of political and institutional editing designed to maintain control and justify state violence.
• The true teachings of Jesus, focused on inner divinity and love, have often been suppressed or reframed through the lens of earlier, more violent traditions.
• The ancient world was more interconnected, polytheistic, and subject to cataclysms than traditionally assumed.
• Individual spiritual empowerment, rather than external worship and obedience, is the consistent message in Jesus’s earliest teachings and echoed in many world cultures.

For more from Paul Wallis:

• YouTube: The Fifth Kind, Paul Wallace Channel
• Books: Amazon (Search "Paul Wallis Eden Series", e.g., "The Eden Enigma")
• Website: paulanthonywallace.com

“Be very intentional about your state of mind and your emotional state...Pick it and then do it. That's what I try to do morning by morning.”
— Paul Wallis (109:41)