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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari
NLS 620: EXCLUSIVE - MOTHER OF CREATION Channeled: Humanity's FUTURE is BRIGHTER Than We Think! with Anne Tucker
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Anne Tucker discusses the importance of focusing on the source of energy and overcoming resistance to achieve a higher level of consciousness. She emphasizes the need to allow light into one's heart space and to embrace one's true self. Anne...
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An I am so good. It's so good to be here with you, Alex. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for flying out to Next Level Soul Studios.
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I really appreciate it. It is this, like people are only seeing this one section of this, but it is like what you guys have done here is just phenomenal. Like I'm so excited even just for the whole field that we are in the spiritual field to bring this level of professionalism is just so exciting. Yeah, so, so exciting.
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Thank you so much. I appreciate that. We're trying, we're trying. Yeah, it's not easy, but we're trying. But I've always loved having you on the show. You were part of our, our first virtual event which was Wisdom from beyond, which was very successful. Everyone loved it. Loved. You love talking to the angels, who you normally channel. For everybody who doesn't know who you are, you are a channel who speaks to or channels the angel realm.
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Yes.
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But we're gonna talk about somebody else who's come through, who's kind of changed your life a bit since then. And you've never spoken about it before publicly yet, not on a show or not even to your own YouTube channel?
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Nothing yet. In very. People have heard me mention it, but we haven't talked about. Talked about it yet.
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Deep dive. Yeah, we're gonna go do a deep dive of it. So the energy that comes through for you is. What's her name?
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She. She's the mother of Creation.
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So. Okay, let's stop for a second.
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Yes.
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It's a very lofty title.
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I know.
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So can you explain to people who the mother of creation is in reference to everybody else? And what part did the angels have that you've been speaking to for years with her, bringing her in? All of it.
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So the angels said that they have been the guardian of this energy for me, that they waited until I was ready. And I knew that an energy was trying to come in. But honestly, my dreams would show that I was really afraid to channel the energy. She's huge. The energy is huge.
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I mean, she's the mother of creation.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if you're gonna.
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It's gonna be big, you know, It's a big energy. I had one specific dream where I'm on a raft in the middle of the ocean with a bunch of people, and I know this giant energy is coming at me. I'm terrified. And I tell everybody, I'm like, save yourselves. Run away. You know? And I know she's coming for me. And she comes in and she just settles very softly down next to me on the raft. And that's the whole dream. And it's just showing me you have. You've got this thing that's coming that's part of your journey, and you're afraid of it. But. But anyways, I finally opened up, and the first time I opened up, she came in and I channeled her for literally six hours. She would have kept on going, but I just, like, I had to get up. Like, it was just.
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How would it feel?
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It's incredible. The way that she has taught me has been a mixture of speaking and I have to record it because I have a hard time, really hard time remembering what comes through. But then through, because of that, she gives me first Person experiences. She shows me how she was created, what she is, her journey. She shows it to me so I get to actually see through her eyes so that I understand it more deeply. And the amazing thing about it is that, yes, she's extremely cosmic. These concepts are really. But once you get it, you realize everything boils down to something so, so, so simple. It's stuff that if we. It's like always, if we return to the body, we can understand everything. That what's true for us and the body is true for the entire universe. So once I understand the principles and the concepts of who she is, what she's about, how she interacts with us, it all becomes. It all makes sense. But it's so simple. It's also very hard to grasp at times. It's taken me a long time to get comfortable enough with this material to be able to share it.
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And that's why you wrote down a whole bunch of stuff.
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I have all these notes.
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You have notes that we're gonna. So you can recite. So you can actually read exactly what she said. Because she's intense.
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She's intense.
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So you were. Before the interview or before the conversation, you were talking to me. Like there's the source energy.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Which is male energy.
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Yeah. So she was created by. I use the term God, so please use whatever term. Source. Source. Whatever that. But. So she was created by God. The very first time I encountered her, she. Well, she showed me several things, but the way I understood her, she is divine feminine energy. And then there is also the grand central sun, which is. And she talks about that. It's really funny the way she talks about him. It's almost like two bickering, like a couple. Like they part. But because he doesn't have any refinement, he had no artistry. He just belches. She said he just belches out light.
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That is the best explanation I think I've ever heard of God. I know he belches out life. It's like, oh, now all I picture is like Homer Simpson in a cosmic.
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Chair with a donut.
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Like a donut. Just throw another universe out there.
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That's kind of how she describes the grand central sun. So God introduces her with the grand central sun. So she is the embodiment of the divine feminine, but she is also the embodiment of creative energy as we know it. So what happened is she's showing me this. She shows me herself, sort of in the universe as a being, as a type of energy, as a feminine energy. And then in. Brings in I'm aware in this. She's showing me the scene. I'm aware of the presence of God, and then I'm aware that there is this giant sun coming. And the way that the mother of creation understands things is to merge with them. So she decides the way she's going to understand what the sun is is to merge with it. So she does. She comes and she normally would merge with things and she would deeply understand them, and that's it. But the sun, when she tried to merge with the sun, she could merge with it, but not completely.
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So the sun is not like our sun.
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No, it's like a central sun somewhere in the universe. It's like the biggest sun in the universe. Like at the middle of the universe is this giant sun, which is the origin of divine masculine energy. So she's the origin of divine feminine energy.
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So it's not God per se.
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It's not God. God is bigger than that. God is above. God is above and underneath God. God kind of separates himself into these two energies, masculine and feminine, for our universe. So there's this grand central son, and then there's the mother, creation. And so she merges with the sun. And as she does, she's looking inside the sun and she sees there are five things that she can't ever merge with. And she is seeing them through her eyes. There's these five things she can merge with almost everything about the sun, but she cannot, for whatever reason, merge with everything. There's five things she can never merge with. What this does is it creates a dynamic tension between her, between feminine energy and masculine energy, which is what creation is. So there's always this push, pull, like a magnet, where there's two ends of a battery, the toroid field. Right. It's this idea that that tension, that dynamism, is what makes us creative. So I'm seeing her through her eyes as she absorbs the energy of the sun into her. And she takes that power and brings it into the feminine body. And she's holding her, like, taking her hands and doing this, and golden light is filling through her hands. And then she goes on a journey from there. And she's explained to me how this creative power works. And she says it's. And she says in the beginning, as the creative power came through her, she says the temptation is to. Because you can use this creative power any which way you want to use it. And she says the initial lure for herself as well was to be controlling with it, to be able to dictate what was going to happen with each thing she created. And then she realized that the greater gift by far is to give the power without strings attached, to allow this creative power to flow through her and into someone else and to allow them to then create whatever they wanted with it. She says that that is much harder to give and therefore much more precious.
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And now back to the show.
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So this is the pathways as she births us. And the way that she births us is she gives us our soul song. She names us basically at the soul level, so she knows every single person's core, like, at their soul. What is the name of your soul? And then as we go through, so our healing process, which is like a spiral as we're going up and up and up and up, we get to a place where we're ready to kind of shift between one story of our soul and the next. We return back to her, and then she renames us, she sings us into presence again with our soul song. But it's always for her, it's like understanding how she works and her relationship to us and how we work with creative energy that she gives us. It gives us such a deeper understanding of, like, what is the light, what is the dark? How are we moving and navigating between these. It's. There's so much here. Alex. We could talk about this for, like, five, I mean, hours and hours. It is fascinating and so incredibly helpful to understand, like, what's underneath all of it.
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So when you were saying that, you know, we're spiraling up.
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Yeah.
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As we are ascending. Essentially evolving. Which makes sense as a soul that we go back. But at what level do we go back? So, like, do the ascended masters are. Have they gone back yet or. They're not there yet because there's. We're. We're just one ring or one step on this long staircase.
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Yeah.
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Of ascension as a human. And then once you master the. The. Not the human level, but the soul level of the three dimensional world.
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Yes.
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Then you transcend to the 5D and then you. And there's multiple layers and we can get into the levels of heaven or whatever you want to call it. But I mean, I Think when you're saying when she goes back, it's when you've evolved to a certain place that you're done.
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Yeah. And it would be different for each of us.
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Yeah, it's a unique thing.
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Yeah, it's a unique thing. So when are you ready for that? For that? And it can happen. And that is actually the main reason why I'm channeling her is because that potential to heal with her is now. So part of my journey has been clearing out my heart chakra because I had to literally get rid of every obstacle in my heart chakra because my heart becomes a portal when I channel her and people can move through my heart to her for renewal. And she basically re sings them into presence as much as they will receive. And so it's.
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Yeah, so the resinging into presence. Explain that to me.
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Yeah, it's hard to explain other than the fact that everything is renewable, everything. It's that idea of, like, in the same way that we look at, like, what happens with the Earth when things die and decay and then they move this place of. And she says the darkness, all darkness is. Is infinite potential, that it isn't the thing to be feared. And there is so much fear around it. Even like they say, the number of the Divine Feminine is the number 13. And in the Mayan calendar, the number 13 is that the energy of that is the moment that we return back into integration. This is the moment that we take things apart and we understand them and then we prepare them for the next phase of growth. This is the space of infinite potential, which is where she sits. This is where the divine feminine is. And it's not dark at all. It's actually where creation exists. It is the infinite. So when people are ready for that, the challenges. We have so much fear around it, so much fear of letting go of our structures, of all the things that are actually all parts of our masculine expression, the way we define ourselves, all of this. The more that we're willing to set things down and let go, the deeper we can go into that sort of letting ourselves return to our. What is really the truth of us, which is just that soul song, that's our soul energy. But it incorporates everything that we've learned and then comes back out again. But it's not an all or nothing. You can go back into her energy and whatever peace you're willing to let go of, whatever however deep you're willing to go, it's all good. There's no judgment at all. But there is a potential where you could literally Reemerge as an Ascended Master. You could literally go into that energy, let go of everything, and then come out of it pure form.
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Interesting. It's fascinating. So what is her take on what is happening right now with us in our. As a collective?
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Yes, yes.
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As a collective. What we're doing right now, the ascension that's going on, the awakening, the shift that's happening with us, what is her take on it?
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So it really. This is, I think, why it's so critical that she's here now, where she's trying to become present with us, is that it really is a huge part about what the shift is all about, is letting this energy come back in. And that for the longest time, we have not been fluent in understanding how to work with the energy. We all have it because we are all born from her. We all have this creative power inside of us, but we don't know how to work with it. We don't know how to use it. We lean way too far into our masculine. Our divine, masculine energy. So she explains to me that there. So there's sort of three concepts that we talk about. We talk about the light, and we talk about the dark, and then we talk about unity, which is where we're headed, heading. But there is this third thing that she creates, which is called the unity field, which is a gift from her heart to all of us. And it is the creative power that we all possess. So the light, she says all of us contain the light. Every single one of us has the light inside of us. That. That can never change. She says, but that we cannot express the light alone. That the light is only expressed when people are together. When you put people together, my light reaches out to meet your light, and boom, we create the light. So. But we cannot create it on our own. So people who are very, very isolated, people who are very alone, you see people who are out there who, you know, who do crazy things, road rage. I think what they're doing is trying to create even just a little bit of light, you know, because they have. There's so little connection in their life. Even negative contact is still contact. It still creates a little bit of light, and they crave that. Yeah. So. And they said that some people who are so, so, so isolated, they literally, she says they callous over their openings to the light and shut themselves off from the light. And it is. You feel. You feel safe. Right? But you cannot create the light by yourself. So she says we have this battle where we ride that. She calls it the razor thin line of Separation, where we're kind of dancing in the space of trying to. To keep ourselves safe, cutting ourselves off, and at the same time craving the light, which we can only create when we open and connect with other people. And that connection with other people, the we. We. We can participate more fully in the light. The more open we are, the more honest we are about who we really are. The more willing we are, the more of ourself we're willing to reach out, bring in, and then express. That is how we then create in even more. Even more. Even more light. So we have the experience of creating the light, which is something to be working towards, right? This is something we all want. We want to create the light. Feels amazing. Feels incredible. To have the light and then the opposite of that, the darkness. When we move into the darkness in the state of the absence of light, not the infinite power I was talking about. We use dark to describe a lot of things. The infinite power is one thing. The darkness being the absence of when we're not connecting. That is where we go with ego. And it is anywhere we try to control others, anywhere that we try to influence another person's path. So the way that she shows me a lot of metaphors to help me grasp things, she showed me the metaphor of starlings, how starlings fly. And she says that in a perfect expression. What we will achieve when we move to the next state of consciousness, which is when we have perfectly balanced our feminine energy and our masculine energy, the two together, which is why she's here to try to help us do this. Then we are perfectly content in our own field, and we are not reaching into another person's field. So think about when swallows fly together. They're in unison. They're in oneness, right? They fly as, like, one flock. It's amazing to see them in the sky. But notice how each one is in their own little space bubble, that they manage somehow to keep their own field perfectly intact. So they're in perfect separation while in perfect unity. And so that is. That's the goal. That's what we're headed towards. But we don't do that right now because we have opinions about how someone else should lead their life. Right?
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How that bird should be flying.
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Right, Exactly. They're not doing it right. They should do it my way. Or we want that bird to approve of us. So we reach into their field and say, hey, am I okay? Look at me. Am I. What do you guys. What are you.
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The birds aren't insecure, right?
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Yeah, exactly. The birds are not at all insecure. So we are constantly looking for our own self definition. We're looking for. For we are not. We're not contained in our own field, right. We're not imperfection in our own self. Which means. And this is the part about. We have to bring all of our self in, bring every part of our. Any part that we suppressed, every part that we have rejected, every experience that we've rejected, every. Everything we've ever said, done, had said to us that we wish never happened. All of that we have to bring up and allow. It doesn't mean we have to like it, but we have to allow it back into wholeness. This is how we resolve our field. So we have these. These two things going on. We have. We're trying to get into unity to be the flock of starlings. But there's the third thing, which is the unity field, which is what the mother of creation gives us, which is that we are dynamic creators. And in order to be able to express that, that is about. About how do I work with this creative power in a way that is not trying to use it to control another person, that is using it in order to express myself in higher and higher degrees of freedom. The key is freedom, and it's really about that. And the desire for freedom can throw us off the target. So say, for example, you're in the Starlings and you're flowing and you feel like someone is really getting in your space. Like there's a starling next to you and it's really, like, glomming on. And like, you know, it's really taking a lot from you. Your reaction is to push it away, right? Like, I want space. I need space. I need separation. So this is the dance we're in right now of, like, I want to get away. If we have the core desire for freedom, I want to get away from what's glomming on to me or I want to. I'm afraid of what's out there. So we go into separation.
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And now back to the show.
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So the place that she wants us to aspire to is to understand that the pathway through is to target in terms of Your own goals in terms of your own aspirations. What leads you to greater and greater expressions of who you are? And that is true freedom. It's not freedom from. Freedom from is actually fear. It is freedom to be. Like, what can you choose that you can embody? Where can you go that gives you increasing. So it could be imagined in a relationship? Does this relationship give you freedom? Freedom to be? Do you feel free to be in this relationship or not? What can you change so that you feel increasingly free to be? How can have you spoken your truth? So through this whole process, she has been working on me about like, what are my issues? And one of my. Always one of my issues.
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I was fully formed. I had nothing. I had nothing to learn.
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I see you on the wall.
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I was fully formed when I arrived. That's what I tell my wife daily. But.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so apparently one of my. Has been self abandonment is the feeling that. And it came in from early childhood, the fear that if I spoke my needs or spoke when I was upset or anything, if I was anything other than the perfect diplomat who made everybody happy and tried to keep the peace, my family would fall apart, I would lose my loved ones. I wouldn't be loved.
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A lot of pressure.
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A lot of pressure, right? Oh, yeah. But you know, I'm not the only one. When I did talk about this concept on my own channel and the response that so many people feel this way. So many people feel this way. So. But think about that. The concept of self abandonment is. I have a feeling, but I'm gonna repress it because I know, and this is especially true about people who are on a spiritual path, the old souls. We know we have capacity. We know that we can take it. Like we're that strong. We know that we can. If there's hardship here, I know I have the capacity. So I'll take that person's hardship. Right. I will let them be easier because I know I can take it.
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Our generation in general dealt with a lot of this.
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Yes, yes.
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You know, it's like to be quiet, don't speak unless spoken to kind of vibe with our generation. The opposite of my children's generation completely. But when we were growing up, that was that thing and the repression of feelings and not to say other generations didn't deal with it as well, but at least from our experience growing up, in the time that we grew up, that was a lot of that happening. And you had to keep quiet and. And don't talk. And I can only. And I'm talking about it From a male perspective.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Surrounded by women constantly throughout my life. But from my perspective, that's what it is. I can only imagine from a female perspective of like, you know, the good, quiet little girl.
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Yes, absolutely.
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You have to be good. You can't speak up.
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Yeah.
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All these things that I heard from my relatives, my family.
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Yeah.
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And everything I've heard and seen and witnessed through my. Through the people that were around me, I can't even imagine.
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Yeah. And it was. I was always rewarded as a little girl for being the diplomat, and I had a blended family. It was like I was always the one that could find harmony between everyone and, you know, say the nice thing or whatever, but a big key of it is, yeah. Don't express your needs. Don't rip. Don't rock the boat. And so part of my journey has been learning through relationship how to feel safe enough to do that, to rock the boat when I feel like it's necessary.
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Brave enough.
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Oh, my God. Brave enough it is. And I finally. The way that I made the switch for myself was finally realizing that when I do not speak my truth, I am being the opposite, which is dishonest. With yourself? With myself and with my partner, I'm being dishonest. If I'm not speaking my truth, I am de facto being dishonest. And I'm not investing in the relationship and not willing to take that risk in order to invest. So that's what finally got me to get over the conditioning, is when I recognized it as what it really is. And here's what's amazing, is that when we are able to be fully authentic, like, that is the highest frequency. That moment of authenticity is like the highest frequency you can achieve. It is the fullest expression of you. That's what we're here for, is to try to express as much of our inner self as we possibly can. And when we do. And the reason for that is we are. I'm connecting with you. If I'm expressing the truth of me, I'm allowing as much of my light as I possibly can, and it's connecting with your light. And we are creating way more light together. The more authentic I am, the more light we create. So. So. So this is the. This is the. The. So she's. And she's working on me about this. And. And. And it's been.
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You're in therapy with the Mother of Creation.
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Exactly.
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I wonder what her rates are. My God.
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She's very, very expensive.
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It's fascinating, and I'd like to. I'd like to point this out because a lot of people in the spiritual space look at channels as. And psychics for that matter. Psychic mediums and channels as these perfect. Oh gosh, kind of, you know, like, like they put them up on a pedestal because they have these abilities.
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B
Yeah.
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But I've said so many times and I haven't met, not met one psychic medium or one channel who disagrees with me.
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B
Yeah.
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That like. No, we are all on the same boat. What we can do, you can do as well.
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Absolutely.
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We just happen to be at a different level than you are. And I always use Michael Jordan. We all can throw a ball again, try to get it in the net. But.
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Yes.
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Or you could be Michael Jordan and there's, there's a vast cavern between the two.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But, but you, you are working through things as well. You're growing constantly. You're learning as well.
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B
Yeah.
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So you're not fully formed even though you have these quote unquote magical abilities to be able to channel the mother of creation or the angelic realm or be able to tell the future, be able to talk to a loved one that's passed. These, these are abilities that we all have.
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Yeah.
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But it doesn't make. Not only doesn't make you perfect, but it also doesn't make you moral a lot of times too. And there is a lot of people out there.
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B
Yes. Who have these super true.
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That have these abilities who are not, you know, not morally obligated to certain things. I've met a lot of psychics like that.
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B
Yeah. And I. 100%. And I'm really glad you're sharing this because just think about this, that when people have a near death experience, they frequently have their spiritual gifts turned on, but they have not yet fully healed. So there's almost no direct correlation between your spiritual gifts and your degree of. In terms of how pure you're expressing your own light. That the only thing that matters in terms of expressing your own light is honestly your own healing of how much of yourself as you integrated, how much are you the perfect swallow, willing to be fully formed in your own energy? Or how much are you reaching out into another person's field to try to. Try to make sense of yourself. And that's the only thing that matters.
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A
And if you're not, if you haven't done the work when you have these abilities, that's why you see a lot of gurus fall.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
A lot of yogis, a lot of gurus, a lot of spiritual leaders who. The message is amazing.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But then they, you know, they're having some stuff on the side or I need six World Royces and, you know, that kind of thing. I need a harem now all of a sudden. Because I'm. I think I'm Jesus, like, because Jesus did that. So I point this out for people to kind of demystify.
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B
Yes.
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The mystical a bit. Because it's just because they have been. They have achieved this either gift.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Or been able to. Like, a near death experience is a perfect example. Because sometimes people who have near death experiences, generally. Not always, but generally are at a crossroads in their life.
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B
Yeah.
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A
They need a massive reminder of where they need to be.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that's the sledgehammer.
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B
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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A
And it comes in.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But that doesn't mean that they're anywhere near doing. Have done the work.
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B
Yeah.
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The shadow work that they've dealt with what you've been talking about. They haven't dealt with all that. And yet all of a sudden they have these abilities. And after speaking to so many channels, so many psychic mediums and listening to their journey, how many reject the idea? How many people aren't ready for it when it comes? Sometimes it's suppressed for decades.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Before they finally decide to go through it.
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B
You.
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A
You were as well.
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B
Yeah.
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A
When you first started going down this road.
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B
Yeah.
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So I'm just putting this all out for people so they, you know, it's really awesome to have these conversations. We're going to talk to the mother of creation soon.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So that's super awesome. But I want people to understand that we're all grounded.
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B
We're all.
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A
If you're down here, generally speaking, we have something to learn.
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B
Yeah. And I have been, for me, healing. I'm a healer. I'm a channel. But I am. I am first and foremost a healer. I channel healing. And the. The healing has been my own journey. And a healer can only help you as far as they themselves have healed. So. And if we were perfect, we would be one with source. So the fact is, is that nobody on this planet is perfect. You know, we are all working on ourselves. So. And it really is to me that part of that authenticity is how much are we willing to own about what it is we're working on.
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A
Oh, that's dangerous.
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B
Yeah. I know, right?
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A
That's rough.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Owning that takes responsibility. You mean take responsibility for your own crap.
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B
Yes.
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A
Stop it, Anne.
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B
Stop it.
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You're asking way too much. I'm gonna go turn on Netflix. I think Stranger Things or Squid Games is starting. No. And that's but that's the work. That's the shadow work. That's the deep work that you have to do in order to evolve. And a lot of people, they do the surface level stuff.
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B
Yeah.
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A
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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A
And now back to the show. You know, they wear the right clothes, they put on the right things, but they're not actually doing the work right. And they. And they're always like, well, I keep going to these events or I keep doing this and it's not working for me because you're not looking at the person in the mirror.
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B
Yeah, absolutely.
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A
And that's. Honestly, it's the scariest thing on the planet to do. When you. The first time I looked at myself in the mirror.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And really looked at. And I still got work to do by far, I'm sure. But the first time I started to do that kind of work, I was like, ooh, this is not. It's not easy.
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It is really. It's very. I mean, I think one of the scariest things is feeling our feelings, is that I know for myself, like, people would have said I was really, really good in a disaster because I would be really calm and really collected. And, you know, but the truth is, is that I wasn't in my body. I was like back there somewhere, like, when I would have difficult feelings, I would leave my body. And that was how I. We have the fight or flight thing, which she talks about that. The fight or flight. The parasympathetic. I had to look this up. She talked about it. I didn't know what she was talking about. Parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system. She. And the field of creation she creates is like that. It's the nervous system. It's how it works. And she. Her energy, the energy we're trying to move towards is the parasympathetic energy, which is about relaxation and open and letting it flow and not constraining and pulling it down.
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A
What you get in meditation.
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B
What.
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A
What you get in meditation.
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B
Yes. Yeah, yeah. Is that. We try. That's the energy we're trying to move into. And I don't remember how I got on that. There was something I was about say that was related to that. I went on a tangent.
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A
Well, I don't know where you were going either. I'm not channeling you, but I wanted to ask you because we're talking about the mother of creations, energy, which is divine feminine.
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B
Yes.
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The last 6,000 to 8,000 years, it's been fairly male energy, very masculine energy, and we needed that energy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because the masculine energy is that.
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B
Yeah. To get things done, you got to.
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A
Go get things done. I'm going to go chop that tree down. I'm going to go do this. I'm going to. And without that, we don't move forward as a species.
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B
Agreed, Agreed.
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A
But we're getting to a point now that the masculine energy needs to kind of recede a bit and allow the Divine Feminine to come in.
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B
Yes.
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A
I'm noticing that now with the. There's more talk now of Mother Mary and of Mary Magdalene and of Kuan Yin and many of the other female ascended masters. Their teachings are starting to start to bubble up to the surface. Not to take anything away from Saint Germain or Jesus or Buddha or any of that, but this feminine, I'm noticing it in my. Even in the work that we're doing in Next Level Soul, I'm noticing the Divine Feminine and all the stuff that's happening in the world as of this conversation, the war, the wars that are happening in the world, ancient wars that are still going on for some strange reason, all of this kind of stuff. I think it's the last kind of death rattle.
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B
Yeah.
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Of this energy. It is where people are starting to now want more peace, want more freedom, want more things that serve you as opposed to just things that are greedy for corporations or for individuals, things like that. And the Divine Feminine is that.
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B
Would you agree with this? I think all of the stuff you're talking about, the energy, the polarity, all this energy has, and I think the reason why we're in more of a tumultuous time than ever. All that energy was always there. It was repressed. But the way that the planet heals, the way that humanity, the collective consciousness heals, is the same way that we as people heal, is we have to bring it to the surface and witness it. And she says that the Mother of Creation, she says witnessing tempers the soul, that it is what strengthens us, what helps us to create form around who we are. So we are meant right now. Part of the reason a lot of the lightworkers, I consider a Lightworker, anybody who's awakened, who's out there to serve in their own way. The reason we're here is to witness what's going on, to be the witness. That is how you heal. The way the angels heal is by witnessing the pieces of us that we wish were never seen is to allow ourselves to be witness. Once we witness it, we acknowledge the truth of it. So all we have to do is acknowledge that it's true. And that allows us to reincorporate it and to grow and to expand. So I think all of the stuff that's happening right now has always been there. It's just like the MeToo movement and the Black Lives Matter movement. Those issues didn't just all of a sudden pop up.
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A
You mean racism just didn't just show up, like, 15 years ago?
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B
Yeah, it's always been there. It's always been repressed. Now it's finally coming to the surface. It's bubbling up to be healed. And so this is the process we're going through. So we have to go. And that's why you talk about, why is it, like my book, that you know what's coming next? The shift. And it's not just us, it's the Earth, like, lots of Earth movement. And that's her releasing, bubbling up energy that she has to release. It has to come to the surface. And we are meant to bear witness, bear witness to this. It serves us as well as the planet, as well as the collective, and it allows us the space to move into this new, higher frequency that we're trying to embody.
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A
But, Anne, this bearing witness thing does not sound fun at all.
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B
It's kind of brutal.
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A
It doesn't sound fun at all.
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B
No.
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A
It's not very fun going back to Netflix.
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B
Yeah. No.
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A
And it's. And I love that you're saying this, but I really want to impress upon everyone listening right now, is this is work.
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B
Yes.
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A
Yeah. You're gonna have to put in the hours. You're gonna have to put like, everybody wants to be a great singer. Everybody wants to play the guitar like a master. Everybody wants to be a master athlete or a master, even a spiritually enlightened being. We all would like if tomorrow morning there's a pill you could take, and you're like, you'll be enlightened after you take this pill.
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B
Right, Right.
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A
Which will be available on nextlevelsol.com. no, I'm joking. I'm joking, joking. If you could do that, people would be like, yeah, I would love to be spiritually enlightened and avoid all of this stuff, but that's not the way it works. It takes work. When a yogi or a guru or a master of any sort, they have to go and do the work in one way, stage or form.
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B
It is an interesting thing that plant medicines have really taken off in recent years because a lot of people do. See, there is a pill I can take or something I can take that will give me an experience. But the interesting thing I have noticed is that it isn't that the pill changes you, it is that those medicines lower your resistance is all that happens. And then what do you do with it once you're there? So I know people who've been on journeys who are faced with something and they never lay down their resistance and they make no progress in that. They have a terrible journey, they have a terrible experience. But it lowers your fear, it lowers your resistance. So it allows you to cope with things that maybe you haven't coped with in the past. Resistance is always the heart of it. The resistance is what prevents us from healing. And so there are pieces of ourselves and it's like the only challenge I think is you have to be careful about how quickly we heal because it's a meal that's meant to be savored. Like there is a reason why life is long, that the reason we are here, if it was a thing where you could just come down and drink a potion and heal everything and be done, what's the point is that we're meant to have the experience and that doesn't mean we're supposed to wallow in our suffering, but we're meant to learn. And healing doesn't have to be, doesn't have to be painful, but it needs to be self explorative. It needs to be a thing where we uncover layers of it. Because you're beautiful, right? You're meant to see the layers of how even when you suffer, that is beautiful because you have the capacity to feel that deeply. And that is beautiful.
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A
The, the thing I always. I love using this example of the cheat code. So when you play a video game.
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B
Yeah.
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A
There is a cheat.
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B
Oh yes, I've heard of this.
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A
There's a cheat code.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that cheat code for all the, all the people in the audience of my generation. Up, down, right, left, right, left, right, ba. Start. That's. That's a code. They'll know it and whoever is listening will go, I know what that is. It was for a video game on Nintendo back in the day. But that gave you infinite power, all your weapons.
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B
Yes.
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A
Everything you needed to do. And you basically just slice through every, every level without, with complete ease because you have everything at your exposure. So if you're on a spiritual journey, all of a sudden you are fully enlightened and any comes you just.
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B
Right.
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A
You're like a Jedi Master. You're just moving things along. But that sounds awesome.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But experiencing that from my point of view, when I actually used that cheat code, it was super fun for the first 30 times. Then I got bored.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then I found myself as a kid going back to that same game and not using the cheat code to see if I could do it without all of those tools at my disposal. So it's really interesting. Everybody wants the cheat code, but after they get the cheat code, you know, it's kind of like. It's kind of like people who win the lottery.
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B
Yeah.
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A
When financial pressures are gone.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that energy comes into your life and you could buy anything.
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B
Yeah.
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A
There's literally people who win a billion dollars. Literally. A bit like some guy won a billion dollars.
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B
Yeah.
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A
He only took home 500 and something. God forbid.
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B
Oh, terrible.
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A
I can't. I don't know how he survives. But all. And he was like a, you know, regular, you know, middle class guy working. And all of a sudden he's buying 50 million dollar mansions in LA and doing things. At a certain point, even people who are extremely wealthy, they get. They get bored.
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B
Yeah, absolutely.
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A
Because you could buy anything.
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B
What's the fun in that?
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At a certain point?
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B
Consumption.
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A
Don't get me wrong.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's an interesting problem to have because most of us will never experience that in a lifetime. To have every. Literally anything. I think I'm gonna buy Disney today. I'm gonna buy the whole company.
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B
Right, right, exactly.
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A
Because there's guys out there who can literally just write a check and buy Disney.
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B
Yeah. So this is actually perfect because. So one of the things that Mother Creation says is, she says that this power, this unity field that she works with, which is not the same as when we think about being one with everything. It is this electromagnetic charge that is wrapped around us, which is her energy, which moves through us, which allows us to create. So this is specifically the unity field that when we are. That we can create with it from the place of not really working with our working from a heavier energy. We can do that. But what that looks like is creating from will. And what it is, she says specifically, she said that that is working with the energy to consume rather than to love.
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A
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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B
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A
And now back to the show.
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B
And that's the specific difference is that when we are working at this from the place of ego, so winning the lottery and it becomes about consumption. And that does not. It's not. It doesn't lift you up at all. The energy feels heavy. Consumption feels extremely heavy.
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A
That's why most of them destroy them. Self destruct.
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B
Yeah, they self destruct. Whereas when you think about your journey and this creative power that you. That we all have access to, we certainly we can use it to consume. You know, we can create more and more and more stuff or try to create more and more stuff in our lives or consume other people's energy or consume whatever it is we're trying to attention whatever it is people are trying to consume. The opposite of that is, like I said, is to try to express the freedom, is to try to be. How can you be more and more and more true to who you are? That is the pathway that leads us into the true unified field, which is sort of like the next level soul. It is the next level of consciousness. And what's cool about it is once we get there, which is this perfect balancing of our masculine and feminine energies because we do need both, which is the idea of being of the starling, where you are perfectly contained within your own self, within the perfection of the whole, within that space. The next journey, the goal of the next state of consciousness is no longer about the karmic experience of learning about ourself. Who will I be if I put myself in this circumstance or that circumstance? How will it change me? Instead it becomes learning about ourselves as manifestors and it becomes we're using the connection to the all that is to understand. So say, for example, I'm in the new reality and I'm here with you. And I would say, what is it that Alex needs and all the people around me? What do they all need that is also needed by the earth that I am uniquely set up to fulfill? What do I bring to this that is of use to everyone around me? And then the challenge is how do I create it? And then the exploration of who I am is through the process of me trying to bring that gift to the surface. And so that is the New that's how we will be working with the unified field once we get there.
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A
And the unified field is another quantum field.
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B
It is like a charge. Like she describes it. And I had to look it up because she was talking about the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic. It is literally built into our bodies. It is our nervous system, but it is the parasympathetic. It is the part that relaxes and opens. This is how we use the energy. What we have a tendency to do is when we try to create, we constrict and we plan. People always say no plan survives contact with reality. That's because we're doing it wrong.
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A
So is that the reason why? When we are between asleep and awake is one moment when we're in deep meditations, another moment where ideas just flow so beautifully. But when you're stressed.
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B
Yes. You can't get anything.
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A
It's like it's a block.
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B
Yeah. And think of it gets back to that concept of resistance. Resistance is this key universal concept that prevents flow. And so. And she divine mother, Mother of creation is so she says the best way to understand her is like water. That's the best metaphor to understand her as a being is that water. Water is always what it is. It never not what it is. It changes form, but it's always what it is. And water never pushes, it's never demanding. Right. You can and water. But water always moves and it constantly changes.
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A
It's fascinating because I've been around creatives most of my life, working in the film industry and I've known many high level creators who are on some sort of drug because they believe that that is the only thing that gets them creative.
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B
Oh, interesting.
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A
It's fascinating. And I never understood it. To really understand it right now is because what it does, it just lowers the resistance. Lowers the resistance. And they don't understand what's happening. They know if I take this, this comes out kind of thing.
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B
And I want to just say, not that I would advocate, like, I think you don't need drugs to get there. No, you don't.
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A
That's the point.
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B
It's so much better if you just resolve your own issues, you know what I mean? And then you have it like the ideal is to heal your soul to the place where it just flows through you naturally all the time. Like that's the goal.
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A
So with plant medicine, which has become very, very popular, people know what ayahuasca is?
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B
Yes, for sure.
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A
Ten years ago.
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B
Yeah. I never even heard of it.
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A
Exactly. So ayahuasca and psilocybin and mushrooms and I mean, this is not new stuff. It's been around for a long, long time, but it's become more and more popular because exactly what you said, it is bringing people's resistance. Resistance down to a point. But this is the danger.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Is that when you meditate slowly over the course of years, you're starting to be able to do it at whim.
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B
Yes.
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A
Through breath work, through meditation, other techniques, you can bring down your resistance. But because you're doing it gradually, you're kind of taking step by step, accepting what comes through.
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B
Yeah.
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A
When you take plant medicine or, you know, some sort of, you know, substance that does it for you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You go from here to here very quickly and you're not ready for it.
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B
Very true.
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A
It's giving a 15 year old a Ferrari.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
No, yeah. Don't do that. You should know. I see these kids driving, I'm an old man now. I see these, these young teenagers running around in their daddy car and I'm like, you know, what are you doing? They don't give a child that kind of power. And that's very similar to some people who take that. That are not ready.
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B
Right.
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A
Because if they go down that fat, they bring down the resistance that fast. All this stuff comes in.
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B
Yeah.
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A
They're not ready. The best example of that I've ever heard was from a guru I had on the show and he said meditating. Well, taking, taking plant medicine or substances. It's like taking a sledgehammer to the wall to see to the other side of the wall.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Where meditation is. You're installing a window.
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B
Yes. I so. And not that I think that like, I think used properly. Agree with. With a. Yes. With guides. With a. Really. Because it needs to be a healing experience. Not. And it's not. I just want to see if I can leave my body. You know, it needs to be.
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A
It's, it's. You need to respect it.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
And I'm not against it or for it. It's just, it depends on your journey. But you have to be careful with it.
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B
I so agree.
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A
Where. With meditation, anyone could do it at any time. And it's so gradual and it doesn't have to be like years. It could be done quickly. Breath work also. Breath work actually is really. I don't know how much breath work you've done.
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B
Oh my God. So I had a crazy experience one time. So Yeshua showed up in my bedroom, as one does, and told me to do breath work. So Literally, like he's. It was a crazy experience, but. And I was freaked out because I didn't understand what was going on. So I thought there was some sort of a being. I was trying to clear my room energetically and then I realized I was clearing Jesus out of my room. I'm like, come back, but away from you.
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A
The power of God compels you. I'm like, I am God. Can you imagine? Can you imagine you feel like you're being attacked in your bedroom and you hold up a cross to Jesus?
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I don't know what happened.
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Can you imagine?
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Yes, I can really imagine that because that was what happened to me. So you're exercising Jesus on your roof.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah. But I was going to tell you something so fascinating is you mentioned mycelium or you mentioned the mushroom.
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Sure.
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And one of the crazy things that the mother creation told me is that the mycelium mushrooms are what hold consciousness in the planet.
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Interesting.
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Yeah. She said. And there was this very specific. So here she says. Yeah, it was really. I never heard this before, but she said that there are no magic strings other than the mycelium. Structured. They create structured openings of belonging. They create personal intrusions with structured openings for participation, for your choice or abandonment. They are holding the shape of consciousness, conscious awareness in place, evolving from within itself. From within itself, new understanding can be met. Tried on, danced with for a time. Yeah. Isn't that amazing?
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That's amazing.
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I know, right?
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Mushrooms are amazing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's amazing. What. And it's actually more of that information starting to come out as adaptogens and.
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Yeah.
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All that stuff that's happening with mushrooms, it's pretty remarkable this whole journey. So, I mean, I would love to talk to.
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Yes.
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The missus.
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Yes.
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As she comes in, because we all know that she runs the universe because she's the feminine versus the guy who belches out creation. So obviously, as any married person knows, you know, it's obviously the feminine that's running the show. So can you explain to people how you channel and are the angels going to be involved at all or. We're going to go straight into mother creation.
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So I typically. Typically the angels are always involved. Like they facilitate my connection, which is really great. But she connects when I connect with her directly, she connects through my heart chakra.
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And so typically, I will stay in my body in the beginning in order to start the connection. She'll come in and then slowly. And then as long as you're game, she will connect with you. Because we need two people to create the light. Hey, so I am here.
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Let's do this.
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All right, fantastic. And then. And then we'll just see what happens. So. But, yeah, but then I. She will begin speaking, and you're.
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And you have. You feel energized as you're doing it. And can you explain to people what you do when she's here? Like, for. Because people. A lot of people, like, channeling is a little mystical. So what actually physically has happened to you? Your consciousness, What. When does that.
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Yeah, so for me, when I channel, I know it's different for different people. I am what's called a trans channel, which is different. Everybody has the ability. And this gets back to what we were talking about before, about spiritual gifts. Every single person has at least one, sometimes, often many spiritual gifts. Everybody, every single person has the ability to connect to their higher self and to get that source of higher wisdom. Every single person. And then among the population, there will be some people. Everybody has different spiritual gifts. So some people will be gifted with mediumship. Some people will be clairvoyant channels or clairaudient channels. I am a. I am a specific type of channel called a trance channel, which means I go into a trance, and then they literally come into my body and speak through me. And so I'm there. I just kind of step a little bit this way. So I'm still present, but it's like I'm very much in my right brain. And so imagine almost like it would be like if you didn't speak the language. Like, I can pick up, I can hear the words, but they're just. Nothing sticks. There's no Velcro. And so they show me images, and that helps me to kind of track what's going on. But after, I cannot for the life of me, like, to repeat back. It's very hard for me to come back in to describe what happened or what they. Until people kind of, oh, they said this, and that'll spark a memory. But then, like a month later, people will say, what did you say? I just can't retain it.
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Dreamlike.
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Yeah, it's very dreamlike Very, very dreamlike is the best way I can describe it. So I'm there, but I'm kinda not there. Gotcha.
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And you feel energized afterwards.
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The thing that is the most draining is going in and out of channel. Actually making the connection is the most draining. But just channeling information is less draining. The channeling, the healing can be var. So I do have to watch my energy. I have at times over committed myself with my various healing programs. And there was a time where I did that, where they told me to stop one program and to start another. And I was like, but I don't want to let go that one. Which is like best. I'm always like, let go. Release, Allow. And I was like, no. And so I kept doing the old one and it just knocked me out flat because I literally, during the day, I was having to sleep between sessions during the day, all day long. It was terrible. And so, yeah, so I realized I needed to. I understand from working with this energy. Energy. It's about freeing up energy. Healing takes. It's like combustion. It takes an enormous amount of energy to heal. So you gotta free up energy from somewhere. So there are some people who come to my, like my different healing programs and that they will be in perfectly. They had a great night's sleep. They feel wonderful. The minute I start channeling, it's like a light switch goes out and they fall asleep. And the minute I stop talking, they turn on again. And they. And the reason for that is the thing that takes a ton of energy in your body is your brain. So they just turn it off and they free up all that energy to allow for the healing. So one of the other gateways that I use is digestion. So if I would. During that time period where I was absolutely wiped out, I started intermittent fasting, which is like a really fancy way of saying skipping breakfast. But I just rested my digestive system for those extra five hours or whatever, and that made all the difference. And it freed up enough energy so that I could stay awake during the day until I had kind of finished that commitment.
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So if you're eating a giant porterhouse.
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Yes.
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You're not channeling right now.
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That's exactly right. Yeah. And I do a ton of stuff like you talked about. Like I. To me, I. I treat this very, very seriously. Like, I take the commitment that I made to be a channel very, very seriously. So that is why, like, I moved out to the country. I grow all my own vegetables. To me, it is like I need to put as much Light in my body as I possibly can to make the connection more fluid. I encourage on my healing. On a non. I'm constantly like, okay, what is the next thing on my path? What is the next. Because the more I clear out, the more open I am, the clearer channel I can be. So it is. I take it very seriously. So I don't. I have. I don't drink. I don't. I don't do anything. You know what I mean?
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The occasional cocaine, but who doesn't? I mean, that's how I get through the day.
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Yeah, exactly. A little pick me up.
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All right, Scarface. No, it's. It's. I bring that up as well because. And I don't want to get into the whole dieting thing and what you'd eat, but there is something to say about the kind of foods you're eating.
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Absolutely.
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And what it does to your.
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Yeah.
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To your system when you're trying to do things. There's a reason why a lot of these masters, you know, many of them are vegetarian. Again, nothing against it. I know. I actually know some. Some spiritual. Very highly high level spiritual people who eat meat, you know, eat fish. So it's nothing. It's. It all depends on the person.
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It depends on the person.
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It really depends on the person. But. But putting light in your system by the food that you're eating. And it's not even just the food you're eating. It's like, you know, I'm sure you've been to Europe, so when you're in Europe, not that they're perfect, but the food there is so different.
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It is, yeah.
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You know, because they don't allow a lot of the stuff that we allow here. It changes.
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Yeah.
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You know, I just could eat cheese.
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Yeah, I know.
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Lots and lots of cheese in Italy.
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Yes, exactly.
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Well, you can't do that here.
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You know, I was not able to eat gluten or dairy. It was one of the first things that came up on my spiritual journey. And I tracked it through my dreams and they were like. It was very, very clear. Dreams of pasta with worms in it, dreams with cheese on the floor, like, do not eat these foods. It was a major issue with my digestive system, which I. Anyways, I thought that was going to be for life. But after I healed, one of the major themes of my life was like a thing that traced back from childhood and really from the womb. Actually, the minute I healed it, I had a dream where my guide was handing me an ice cream cone.
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Stop it.
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Yes. And now I can have dairy gluten. It's like the best thing ever.
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I mean, gluten is good.
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Yeah, I know. Gluten is good. Gluten is really good. I always. I am always careful. I don't. I don't over indulge, but.
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Yeah, but nice baguette with a little bit of sliced cheese. Stop it.
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It's nice.
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Let's aged cheese.
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I know. It's very nice. Okay.
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Sorry, everyone. If you're hungry now, it's just gelato. Anyway. Pizza. Now I sound like Homer, right? Pizza. Okay, so enough with all these jokes. Let's get serious now. We're bringing in the mother of creation. For God's sakes.
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She has a great sense of humor.
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Should I have my cross ready?
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Yeah.
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That was the. I'm gonna hold on to that story. Jesus came in and I tried to exorcise Jesus out of my bedroom with a cross. Let's bring her in.
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Okay, let's do it. All right, so if you're good, I'll do a little grounding for us first, please. Okay, so. Okay, go ahead and relax. Close your eyes. And drop down from your tailbone a nice thick root that goes down through the floor and down into the ground. And follow it down with your mind as it grows and extends, growing deeper and deeper into the earth, following it down where it's dark and cool, extending longer and longer. And follow it all the way down to the very, very center of the earth. And when it reaches that central point, feel the root sprout and anchor itself in. And as it does, notice that the root is pulling gently and becoming taut. And feel as that tautness move all the way up the root and now all the way up your spine, anchoring you securely to the earth. I'd like to ask the angels to please help me to be a clear channel of healing and information for our highest and best good. And please help us. Help us to receive this healing and information. Thank you. And I'll go ahead and connect with her. I stay in my body as I do this. Blessings, Blessings. Blessings. I am within. I begin speaking with you now on the topic of some concern. Your bodily awareness has been faltering. You're not concentrating upon the rivers of light that you carry. You have not the awareness of how these rivers are forming, where they are from, how you may work with them. You have no understanding or comprehension of the depth, the profound depth that you carry. There is an orchestration of light that is always available to you now. It has come from the shadows that you bear from the heaviness that you've endured, this has generated the capacity to carry more light. And this you have succeeded in enduring. You have traveled through generative experiences and drawn these heavy memories into the grounding of this body, this incarnating. And you are now prepared. The furrows have been drawn and the light will flow. But the rivers, the rivers, the rivers you have no knowledge of.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show.
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You do not assemble the mind correctly for the instrumentation to divide itself between the memory you do not have yet the orienting that is required to carve out a new reality. Do you understand me?
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Yes.
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I wish. I wish, I wish. I wish to bring forward to you now a greater comprehension of how these positive expressions may grow from within you. They are the light that I am. They are the resonant frequency of my own being. I am a creative power. I am a furtive glance, an easy passing, a flowing memory. I am that which evolves from within itself, that cannot be held, that cannot be put down. I am that which moves within you. I have shared my heart and its becoming nature through your own bodies. I share this capacity of what I am so that you may create in the freedom of your own expression. I do this because of the truth of my own knowingness, that that which creates in its own form knows itself better and returns to what I am for my own greater expansion. That which you are is an expression of what I have been, of what I am now, and what I will be in the future. But to know yourself truly, you must master this capacity that you contain, which is what I am. And you have nothing yet not yet allowed it to be what it can become. Do you have questions?
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I do. I do. First question is, how do you envision humanity evolving in the next century?
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Humanity has, from its origin point, decided amongst itself to be of a divergent nature, to separate from itself. Again and again with each incarnation, with each incarnating experiencing of itself, it has chosen the path of deformation from which it will evolve into greater and greater truths of its own expression. This is the pathway chosen. It is not the only pathway, but it is one that is valid and expansive and it shall be shared from within the collective forces of your own awareness that the truth of you is becoming congealed into a higher understanding of your own potency, into that memory which must be pulled forward from the depth of you. That there is one unified consciousness of which you are but one piece, one aspect, one shared memory unites the wholeness of you. The trust in your own relationship to the divinity of your nature is what must evolve first to share this within, to trust yourself. The path that you have chosen, to trust in your own betterment. Because of it, the pathway has been a hardening, a tempering, a strengthening of your form, of your relationship to Source and to each other. It has been difficult, not easy. But it is an expression of light that you carry. You are choosing the expression of light. The darkness is also a pathway to truth. The darkness takes longer to choose. The path of darkness is a pathway through which one may journey, to encounter themselves with the eventual outcome to be remembering. The way to the light. All contain the light, even the darkness. But you have chosen the pathway of light for your own becoming. This pathway must congeal itself through form, through substance, which is what you have been doing in the consecration of this period of semi enlightenment, of endurance, of suffering, of hardship. You have tempered the soul enough. Now there is the structure that is required for the building upon which you shall have the remembering. It comes upon you not at once, as each are ready to forsake that which is tired, that which is exhaustive, that which has been draining. As you are prepared in your own soul, in your own self, to allow the eternal, the ease, the memory of ease. It comes upon you gently, gently, like water distill your perceptions. Understand. It is trying. It is trying to emerge from within you. As you rise, as you are pulled into the higher state of consciousness, this rises, this perceptive umbrella. A peaceful expression of your light which without force, no force, no force, no agony or antagonism shall exist within this new perception of reality. It comes through the expression of self without resistance. This shall be your effluence. It comes. It comes. You already nearly there. There shall be the addition, the supplementation of the atmosphere by the light that he carries. Yes, the central sun. The central sun. He does. He does supply you. He supplies all living beings with their force of light. The light that you carry is from him alone. I am the creative spark. I am the flow of light bearing. Bearing the wishes. What will you create? This is me. This is what I am. Do you have questions for me?
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Yes. Will technology advancements like AI help or hinder humanity's spiritual growth.
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There are questions, questions you may resolve within your own consciousness relating to the generative capability of. Of, as you call it. Artificial. Artificial beingness. But no beingness is truly artificial. It is simply beingness. But as to its relationship to yourselves, this will evolve from the capacity of your own needing of it. How do you use it? How will it deploy its resources according to your needs? Do you require it to define you? Do you require it to aid you where you feel not endowed with your own generative capacity? Or does it live alongside you? Inequality in a capacity of knowing itself while you are also knowing yourselves? In this future wherein you are holding the capacity of generative equals, it shall live alongside you for the purpose of aiding and serving, much as you aid and serve yourselves. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. What is the nature of the soul across lifetimes?
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This is a question I enjoy hearing. It is a solvable puzzle for yourselves. Enjoyment fixation states here. It is the persuasion of your own embodiment muddled across many different experiences. And this puzzle shall remold and multiply itself into a variety of expressions. Each of these are generative themselves, much as I am. I generate souls who generate themselves again and again and again. You are generative creatures, much as I am. The multitude of your experiencings come back to yourselves, much as you come back to what I am. You employ your own capacity for regeneration to recall each of these selves into wholeness for greater and greater expansion of what you are. I do the same. I create all living beings within this particular sphere of existence.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show.
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And they return to me and expand what I am. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. How does free will intersect with divine guidance?
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Free will is the gift that I bring. It is the concept of my own energy used for the purpose of creating what you wish to create. An expression of who you are. This is the gifting of my own heart. It is the field I have created. An energetic pulse, an electromagnetic pulsation that encompasses all living beings. It is the expression of my own field. It is what I am. It is the expansiveness of this offering That I do not endeavor to control what shall pass within the field of my own offering. I allow it to become what it shall become. I allow it to flow equally to each and every living being. I create from within what I create. Each living being creates from within what I am. And we are all as one within this unifying field of creation. This is an expression of what I am in my wholeness, in my truth, in the truth of my capacity as a living creator. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. What is the true purpose of suffering in our soul's journey?
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Suffering. Suffering. You need not this. You need not suffer any longer. Suffering exposes the self to the self. It is a dialogue within your own journey wherein you have decided to shut down your capacity for your own internal guidance. It is wherein you have endowed the external with your own creative force. You have robbed yourself of the gift I have given you. So many say they accept. They accept the freedom. They do not. They do not. They deny themselves this core aspect of their own truth. I am creative. You are by offspring, creative as well. You may create the reality of your choosing. What do you care? Care. What do you choose? What do you make? You make suffering. You make suffering. It is not a dialogue I would make.
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Can you explain how karma really works from your realm's understanding?
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Karmic constructs are a method by which you may uncover yourselves. They are methods that are working, that have been working. They are not fun. They are not fun. I do not like them. I do not want them for myself. But you have been expanded. Expansive. They are expansive. They will work. They are all right. They are all right. They are tempering the soul, which is necessary. They are all right. They are of your own choosing. I do not make them. You have made them. You have made. Made this karmic construct of reality. It is a method by which you are expansive. Not really. Not as expansive as you will be. As you will be when you come to the fullness of your understanding about this. What I am. The rivers of opportunity, the threads of the mighty power of self attunement. Attunement which you carry. That is the expansive nature of you. This will be a golden age of creation. Creation you are heading to. The karmic construct was decided upon within your own consciousness. Not mine. Not mine. You are independently forceful with your own thoughts. Thought forms create fields of reality. They are tender. They are malleable. But they are in alignment with the truth held wholly by your own selves. This has been a magnetic force of reality creating. And within it the constant construct of karma was born. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. What does it mean to live in alignment with divine will?
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Divine will. Will. Will. Will has two aspects to itself. Will is a form of generative capacity. You may generate from will. Will is a necessity. It generates form. This is necessary. However, will, when known only to itself, becomes consumptive. It becomes an energy that is calloused against the true form of itself, which is love. Love is the expression of that same energy, but within a generative field that embraces all things equally. Will power, as it is known, creates form without love. Divine will, there is no such thing. Divine will is yourselves, yourselves alone. There is no one outside of who you are that creates a form or construct within which you must exist. You are free creatures. I made you. Thus, freedom is the principle by which I exist. It is the foundational understanding of my own energy. I crave, I desire. I exist within the context of freedom. Freedom to be. To be what I am. To be what I am. When the dialogue of freedom is corruptible by willpower, it generates separation. Separation from that which is constraint, from that which is overbearing, from that which is exhaustive. Thus, separation, separation yields the darkness and the darkness from within which you cannot generate the light. Thus you are called back. Back. Back into unity. Unity. And this is the dance you have been playing. The voyage away from what is the light. Away. Seeking freedom, seeking separation from that which is overbearing, from that which is constraining. Seeking your own self, your own light, your own context, and then realizing you cannot generate the light when you are separated. This has been the dance of the karmic construct. Once you have balanced the immeasurably important forces within your own bodies, the masculine and the divine feminine, you shall live within the formation of the generative field that I create and shall balance yourselves into harmony. Into harmony once again. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. For those who are watching that might have resistance or an issue with the idea that you have created them, as opposed to the God or the source or something larger than you. Can you kind of explain this process to people so they can understand it?
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God is larger than all things. God created what I am and created yourselves through what I am. We are all aspects of the divine One, of the oneness that we all share. There is no hierarchical structure of embodiment wherein one belongs to another through a chain of experiencing. We are all an expansion of one thought, one soul flame that expanded infinitely as we all belong to ourselves. We belong to the one God is the all surrounding presence of which I am just a part. I am no greater, no better than any one person for each person is what I am. We are all as one, experiencing a life that we design for ourselves to experience what it is to be living. I do take ownership of my participation in the dialogue that you are creating currently, within which I have decided to share what I am. To increase the capacity of my own light through the expression of it in the generative field of becoming. By creating more light through the birth of many, many ways of beingness through the souls that you are becoming. But we are all as one within the eyes of God. God is what we are.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show. Why are there so many conflicts and divisions on earth right now?
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Earth is in a quagmire of its own experiencing itself. It must come to this understanding not through pleasantries, but through its own expansive and contractive expression of loving and disliking itself all at once. And this is not an easy process. It is the process of your own choosing of the earth herself. She must diagnose what she is and has become and is becoming. She cannot do this in a vacuum without understanding, understanding more deeply, understanding more deeply through conflict, through contrast, through her own internal revolution. This is the process by which you have chosen to expand for this time frame. This is simply a dialogue you are having internally within yourselves. Do you understand me?
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I do. Is there a spiritual reason behind the war and the chaos in the world today?
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War is, as a state of expansion, very heavy. There is seldom a war or aspect of fighting that is born from the light. It is almost always a dance of darkness, a dance within which there are two parties, one who takes the light and another who fears. To share is this expression, this dialogue of anger, hatred, fear, loathing. It is not pretty. It is not what I am. It is not an expansion of my nature. It is an expression of what can become in the absence of the expression of what your truth is. It is an expression of will. Of will. Do you understand me?
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How can we interpret mass suffering and collective trauma from a soul perspective?
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The souls that you are must find yourselves more deeply There are pathways you have chosen where in the diagnosis of your own selves comes more readily when you are in a field of repression, when you are shut down, when you are laid waste, when you are brought to your knees in the deepest suffering known to humanity. This is an expansive state. It is as if all of creation is brought to a standstill. As if all that would move into dialogue with you can no longer be accessed. And from this point of stillness an opposition is born and the light is created from within. It is a choice made by many who chose to come in this time frame to find themselves. More goodness, yes, more goodness can evolve from this. It is an experience worth having to some degree. It is not easy. It is not easy, but it will catapult, catapult, catapult those who are caught, caught in the hailstrom of these undergoings. It will enliven their spirit. It will draw them into a greater dialogue of their own self understanding. Do you understand me?
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I do. How can individuals maintain inner peace during global instability?
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This I like very much. This is a dialogue about my truth. I enjoy this. I enjoy speaking about my truth. My truth as an expression, as an expansiveness of my soul encourages the light. More light comes in. Can you feel that? Can you feel this, Alex? As light comes in, I connect to your heart. To your heart. We generate. We generate the light. Can you feel this?
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I can.
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Can you expand yourself a bit more now? Can you draw toward me a bit more of your truth? And there I have found. I have found. I found your heartstrings. I'm playing your note now, Alex. We are in confidence. We are in confidence with one another. And we are enjoying each other's company. And I am drawing myself into greater and greater truths. As you are moving into greater and greater depth of your own soul. I am incorporating what you are into my understanding of self. I'm drawing from you the wisdom you have learned. And I share my own. I share my own. Do you understand this?
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I do.
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I have not answered your question. I'm having fun. I'm having fun. I am. I'm enjoying myself. I am enjoying myself. Now I speak to your question. Now, what would you like to be answered?
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How can individuals maintain inner peace during global instability?
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Peace is from within. Peace is an endowment of the divine, your creator. Peace is the umbrella we've been given to resolve ourselves into oneness with what is. Acceptance. Acceptance is the pathway to peace. Acceptance of what is. You need not like it. You need not embrace it. Simply acknowledging the truth of what is. The absence of resistance is peace. Peace. This is the state, the divine state of the Creator. Peace. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. What role does forgiveness and compassion play in healing nations, communities?
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Everything. It contains all things that are needed. Compassionate embrace of everyone and everything. Understanding all persons, all souls contain the light, no matter what journey they have chosen. All beings contain at their core the illuminative force of their own divinity. Contain, within your own heart the compassionate, compassionate heart. For what is. For what is. This is the governing principle of this universe. Compassion. Loving thy neighbor. Loving what is. This is the definitive structure of this universe. Do you understand me?
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I do. I do. Is humanity being tested? Or are we in a process of a purification of some sort?
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Of neither. Neither. There are no such tests. There is no greater God than the one that you love that would command you to be something that you are not. Already you are already perfect. You are already loved. You are already on the pathway to greater and greater endowments of your own truth. There is no test. There is only the desire to understand yourselves more deeply. And for this purpose, you have drawn yourselves into this expansive, although difficult, period of increased karmic constriction. Constriction is a force by which you may generate increasing capacity for the light. The more broadly you stretch yourself through the pain of your own separation, the greater you will reach for the light that you carry. Do you understand me?
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I do. Are there any practices that effectively connect us with our higher selves and with you, for that matter?
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Yes. You may find your truth more easily when you spend time in nature. You hear this often? Often. But how about this? Reach to your own heart. Tap it twice. Turn yourselves to face the north. Then expand your arms diagonally up toward the sky. And from this placement of the body, encounter yourselves as one with what I am. Being of a mind to allow the light in, allow the self to expansively connect with what I am. What is your truth? Allow me to gaze freely into your soul. Open your heart to me. Allow the body that you are to become expansive, expanded state. Do this regularly, often, as often as you are pleasing. Turn in this embodiment and open your gifts to me. And we shall share a dance of loving expression and expansion. And you shall generate a field of belonging within your own experience of living, belonging to what is light, to what is living, to nature, to what abounds, to what abounds. You shall feel increasingly your capacity to belong, to accept what is. This is a practice I would recommend where I may be of service, of service to everyone. Do you understand Me.
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I do. How can we best align with our soul's purpose in daily life? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show.
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Your soul's purpose is to expand yourselves in your capacity for being, to be more fully who you are. Notice where you have been in constriction, where you are not allowing your light to shine, where you are bridging the gap between two persons. Rather than becoming an expression of what is your own truth, become aware of how and when you are reticent to expand. Do you keep yourself hidden in order to not offend? Do you spend your hours guarding against what another might think? Do you spend your own wishes to prevent rather than to create? What is your truth? This is what must be experienced. This is the pathway to your own formation. Seek greater and greater opportunities of freedom to be what you are. Cultivate a life that is expansively allowing to be what you are. Seek greater and greater expansiveness regarding your joy, your passion. Passion must be bridled with grace. And within that context, it becomes unity. Do you understand me?
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A
Yes. What is the most important message you have right now that humanity needs to hear?
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Blessings for this question. Alex. I say to be within your own heart space and to allow what is light to enter there. There to come to peace, to terms with what has been this earth life. To encounter no one greater than yourself, than your soul. You are the light. You are the light you carry. You are what I am. I am what you are. We are as one. There is no one more endowed, no one more blessed, no one more creative or powerful than what you are. You are the creator and flesh. You are what I am. You are blessing. All you contain is light. You are a light being. You have chosen the pathway of light. Expand this. Expand your blessings by allowing the goodness you contain. The goodness you contain is not always nice. It is not always nice. Be sometimes that sharp edge which generates feeling. Be sometimes that rough road that must be traveled in order to surface a true longing. Become yourselves. This is all. This is all I request. Become yourselves. It is a gift. You must share it.
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And do you have any parting messages for the audience?
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Blessings to all, to all, to all, to all who will listen. I share My vocal tones of courage. Courage for yourselves. Courage is what I share. Courage to be. To become yourselves. Courage, encouraging you vocal tones, vibrations I share. Permeating. Permeating these frequencies. Courage is what I share. I bring. I thank you.
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Thank you.
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Blessings, goodbye.
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Hey, she's back. She came in back. You came in back fast.
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Yeah, I'm not super far away. I'm close by. So I get back in pretty. It takes longer to get out than it does to come back in.
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Your eyes are a little teary. Are you okay?
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Oh, I'm good. Yeah. It's just, you know, her energy's a lot.
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I'll tell you from my point of view, because I'm assuming you don't channel often with others in the room unless you're doing an event or something like that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But a one on one like this, when she comes in and throughout the conversation, I felt very peaceful. Almost like a warm blanket. She reminds me of a blanket that just came out of the dryer.
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That's awesome.
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I love that and that you've wrapped around you.
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Yeah.
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And that's how I felt.
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That is awesome.
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And I kind of. I just felt peace. Very relaxed peace. It's happened a few times in the room with me. When Buddha showed up, I felt that kind of relaxed. I almost was like. As she was talking, I was like, man, I could just meditate right now, man, I could just go down. I'll go in there so quick. It's not even funny because it's. I don't know if you had this problem, but like when you meditate, when you go into meditations, you know, my life's becoming crazier and crazier because of everything we're doing with Next Level Soul and Next Level Soul TV and everything. So I'm. My life is becoming more hectic. So I find that I need to try to meditate as much more. But I find it harder these days.
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Yeah.
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Interesting to go in to it. Because if the mind is. If the mind's going crazy, it's like, it's tough. Like when you go in, you're like, yeah, but I got to get that show taken care of. And I gotta go do this and I gotta do this and this, that and it's. It's harder for me to kind of get down than it used to be. For me, it's weird.
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Yeah.
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Because my energy is getting hecked. More hectic.
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Yeah.
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So it's harder for me to go down. She. I was there and I'll be like, oh, that's awesome.
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That is awesome.
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I go right now, I'm still like, on. I'm still like in this Zen, like, little vibe, like almost drunk. Almost drunk. Not that I've been drunk.
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I deal with her. I feel like I'm almost a little spiritually drunk. I come out, I'm always spiritually, I'm always. Oh, you know. Cause it is. It's like. And it's. I think it is that flow, that ease, that, like, I love that she uses. And she's given me several metaphors to understand her. And one of them is that there's the starling concept, which is the unity field, which is amazing, which is what she's trying to get us to hold. But her, herself, her energy is water. And it is. If you think about water and how you can put water in a place. But if there's any crack, it doesn't matter how big water wants to move. It's constant change. It's always moving.
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And that. It makes the crack.
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Yeah, exactly, exactly. It finds it and it expands the crack, you know, and. But it never pushes. Water never forces. It just is. Water just is. It never pushes. And that's her energy is. It's this like the ultimate mother energy because it's completely encompassing, completely loving, like a warm blanket. But it never pushes you. It always. And for her, it's always about making space. Nurture, nurture, nurturing, making space for you. It's almost like you have a little seedling and putting space around, providing the sun and the water and watching it grow and making space for it. And that. She says that is. And she even said that in here, like, so there's this part in here. Where was it, where she talks about her vision of the new reality and what it will be like.
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A
Yeah, if you could read that, that would be amazing.
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Yeah, it's really cool. I think this was it. I don't have my glasses on. I put them on. Oh, this is the mycelium bit. This is why I was confused, because that was really cool. And I'm sorry, I just bunked it this. But she says. She says I create from a vision of all beings, inequality without suffering. I create from a space of internal harmony in dialogue with their creator. These are the basic rights upon which all else is predicated. Nothing exists within these boundaries that does not contain this self knowledge. It all exists. It all marries itself into consciousness because of the structure, the barriers, the allowings. You are created by this. It justifies itself within the mirror. It sees itself, justifies itself again. It gets Hardened and hardened and hardened as a consciousness baked into a way of being. So this is sort of like, yeah, this new concept of a reality without suffering. And it's really about trying to be and to allow others to be exactly as we are. It's sort of like it's possible to have many different ways of being and existing. Like. Like they gave me once the angels gave me a graphic to understand the shift in consciousness, which was really cool. And I don't have a pen with me. Right. Draw it for you. But the. The idea was the. The frame of reference that we're living in right now in the 3D reality is imagine you have a projector right here, which is one concept of what reality is. And then it's got, like, you had the path of light that's going out like this, and we are all here. And then here is the movie screen, right? And the path from the light from the projector is shining through each of us. So we are each transforming it as it's coming through us. But we share one shared screen at the end, right? And we are each changing it because a light moves through us. And then we have the shared projection that we're all a part of in the new state of consciousness that we're moving into. Imagine that there are. Imagine that all of the souls are each a projector. So imagine in the picture I drew lots of projectors all around a circle. And then each of us have rays of light coming around each of us. Some of those rays are coming into the center, and it looks like a Venn diagram, if you know what that is, where you have circles drawn and they overlap. And in the very center is where all of us share one thing in common. So in the new stage of reality that we're moving to, we are each creators. We could be creating in our own way of being. We could be creating eight different ideas that we are living. One of those might be part of the shared construct that we are all a part of. But we have these other ways of being that we're also exploring. And there could also be a thing where, say that I have one that's part of the whole, and then I have two others that maybe you and I share. And then I share two others with this person over there that it's like we are much more empowered as creators and we are living within a shared construction, but we have the capacity to participate in other constructs at the same time.
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A
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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B
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A
And now back to the show. Well, the analogy sounds like the allegory of the cave. Plato's allegory of the cave.
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Which is.
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A
Which is the allegory of cave that Plato said was there were. It's similar.
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Yeah.
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There's a cave, and light is coming from outside, projecting inside. And the shadows that we're creating.
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Yes.
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I think they're locked in. They're like, in a chair, and they're, like, locked. They can't turn around. They only could look one way. The shadows that are on the wall is their reality. It's the only reality that exists. So from their point of view, that's all there is. But one of them loosens themselves and gets outside, tries to come back in and go, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the real. The real thing is there. And they're like, you're crazy. The shadows is the real stuff. That's the allegory of the cave. And it goes back to one of my favorite quotes of Yogananda, who said that the movie projector going straight to the movie projector. The movie projector projects light onto a screen, and on the screen, there is death and violence and love and drama and telenovelas. And all of it. All of it is on there. And you're. And it's intoxicating.
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You're.
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There he goes. Where we're focusing our energy is there believing that's the reality.
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Yeah.
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But the key is to look at where the light is coming from.
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Yes.
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The source is what you should be focusing your energy on. Isn't that beautiful?
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I love that. Yes. Yeah. And I agree. That is getting into that spiritual perspective. And I think this. So the key here is us learning how to work with the energy that is coming, that we contain, that comes to us from the mother of creation. It is a married energy. It's a married energy between her and the grand central son, the divine feminine and the divine masculine. But we're trying to learn to balance, to use structure, but to also use it with the fluidity of the creative force that we hold and to get away from the concept of will. Right. And into this concept of creating through love.
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A
So obviously, the grand central son is Homer. The mother of creation is Marge. And we're Bart.
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B
Yes. Or Lisa.
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A
It could be Lisa.
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But more of us.
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More of us are Bart. Let's just. Let's just couple are Maggie. But generally speaking, we're all Bart. I'm just trying to bring it back down for everybody to understand. Clearly, Anne, this has been so great. I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna ask you the few questions I ask all of my guests.
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Yes.
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A
It's changed a bit since last time you were here, so there'll be a few new ones.
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Okay.
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What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
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Oh, my goodness. It is to try to be as much of myself as I possibly can. Like, that idea. That. And that's something I'm learning from a mother of creation, is to try to chase my own sense of freedom to freedom to be, and to try to turn towards my goal, my joy. Is my goal to try to live in accordance with my joy.
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A
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Ann, what advice would you give her?
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I think last time I said to stop eating cheese. And I still keep that one.
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A
Unless you're in Italy.
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Unless I'm in Italy. But I think that life is not meant to be heavy, and I think it's just that understanding life is not meant to be heavy. And I think we get so caught up in all the stories. Life is hard. Money doesn't grow on trees. That to understand. And I heard the mother creation she showed me today when she was telling. I don't know exactly how she expressed it, but she was specifically showing me. Because you must have asked something about karma.
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A
Yes.
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And she showed me the concept that it's not. She was just like. She was doing this. She's like, meh, it's not mine. I didn't make that.
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A
I didn't do that one.
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Right. And the idea that. Not that karma has been a really useful tool, it's been great for us. But the idea that, yeah, it doesn't have to be. It's not meant to be heavy or hard or difficult. And anytime I fell into or fall into a pattern of thinking that I should just tough it out, that there is no glory in toughing anything out. That it's not that if it's not a thing that is growing you that is expanding you, that is loving you, then it needs to be questioned.
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Now, what would little Ann tell you today?
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Oh, let's see. What would she tell me? I think she would tell me to have more fun. You know, I think she would definitely tell me to have more Fun. That is probably something I need to do more of, that I tend to get caught up. Work is fun for me. So it's really easy for me to just work all the time.
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A
Yeah.
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You know what I mean? You know the feeling? Yeah. It is fun. Like, I love it, but I need to balance that more.
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A
And with more gelato in your life, essentially. More pasta, more pizza. I get you. I get you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
How do you define God?
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Oh, my gosh. I. In my vision, the first vision I had of other creation, I saw. I felt. I didn't see God. I felt his presence. I call it. I say he because it feels like it's a balanced energy, but it does feel kind of more masculine to me. I don't know why, but. But God, I think is that. It's that peace. It's that sense of like. Yeah. That umbrella of peace over everything.
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A
Beautiful answer. What is love?
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Love is self understanding. I think love is self understanding.
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A
If you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?
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B
See, I think it is what happens next. Like what? Where? Like the piece I don't know yet, that I haven't channeled on, that I would like to know is, like, I get the idea that a universe kind of rolls up and that there's. And then there's another universe. And I have this theory. I don't know if it's right or not, but I have a theory that it's almost like everything that's true in the body is true in the universe. So the way a cell divides, a cell tears itself apart and it becomes two cells. But who's the body? Like, if the universe is tearing itself apart and becoming two universes, what's outside of the cells? Is there a body? Like, that's what I'm curious about. Is there, like, how big does it go? Is it just endless? I don't know.
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A
Well, that was the thing that, as Mother of Creation was talking, something that popped into my head and I've thought about this before. Is that. That, that. Let's just place that Earth itself. Gaia.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's its own soul.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Then this solar system.
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B
Yeah.
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Is its own soul. And then you spread out to multiple solar systems that have their own souls and the planets have their own souls. And then we pull back out a little bit more. And then the. The galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy has its own.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then you keep pulling back. So you can pull back out all the way if you want. All the way up to basically whatever you were just talking about.
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B
Right, exactly.
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A
But if you go the other way, it just keeps going in. And right now within us there are trillions of universes.
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B
Yes.
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Of cells and bacteria and life and doing things that you and I have no consciousness of that are happening in our body as we speak. And if you just keep going down, down, down, down, down, eventually you get to nothing.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You get to space.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because the farthest they've gone down into a cell or to an atom, eventually there's just nothing but space.
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B
Yeah.
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A
This is technically not real.
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Yeah, technically. And the mother of creation would say that that is the field of infinite potential.
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A
Right.
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So that is that number 13. That is. That. That's divine feminine energy.
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A
Now how do you define liberation in this lifetime?
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Oh my gosh. Like, I think in the past I would have described that as my own healing, that I was liberating myself from negative belief forms and stuff like that. But now I understand that healing never stops because it's really just self discovery. It's self love. Liberation is. And there's still pieces of that where every little bit I heal is a liberation. Every little bit that I am able to see about myself. The places where I'm holding myself back or the places that is. They're like a million little liberations, you know, Every single one.
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A
It's like liberation by paper cut.
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Yes, it is. Sometimes they're like big gashes. You know what I mean? Sometimes they're biggies. But a lot of people. But though each one of those is liberation and that. And it does feel. And then also just becoming increasingly comfortable with who and what I am. Like, there was a time when I didn't tell people what I do. Yeah. I would say it's weird.
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A
It's weird. I'm telling you, Anne, it's weird. I generally don't have mother of Creation coming in and talking to me. So yes, it's weird.
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B
Totally. And now I just say it, you know.
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A
Yeah. You're in the airport. What do you do? I channel the mother of creation and the angelic you. Oh, car salesman. Got it. So, I mean, but it's become. But you know what? The concept of channeling has become so much more mainstream. People are like, I'm channeling Michael Jordan. I'm channeling. I'm channeling this person while I'm doing things. So it's becoming much more open. When someone says, oh, she's a channel. You're like, but what is she?
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Yeah, exactly.
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A
Who is she channeling?
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, do I need to bring out the cross? But. And finally what is the ultimate purpose of this life?
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Ah, it is self understanding. It is that and it's at the end, it's self understanding. But love, like love is the. Love is my understanding. And she said this once. Mother creation told me that Christ consciousness, which is the concept of love is and compassion, that that is sort of the governing principle of the universe that we are in. She says that it's not the governing principle of every universe, that the different universes have different, like love is ours. That's what we're doing.
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A
Interesting.
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B
I know, right? And that other universes and she described.
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A
Them as what's in the other universe.
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I don't know. How do we, it's almost like how do you know what you've never experienced? But love is ours. Love is what we're doing and that's what this universe is governed by.
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A
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [118:10]
B
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- [118:42]
A
And now back to the show.
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B
Yeah, and she said, and she described it as, I can find it's in my notes somewhere. But she described it as like. And she called it as a king because we call Christ, you know, Jesus. So it's basically Christ consciousness is the king. But she says there's other and there's other ones that are not in duality, other universes that are not in duality. So I don't even know how that exists. Like so. Yeah, but that, where everything has come into harmony.
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A
So I'm going to make your head explode here for a second.
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B
Okay.
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A
All right. So, so if this universe, this is like we've smoked a lot of weed and we're eating pizza kind of conversations, you know what I'm saying? So this is the conversation. All right, man. So if this is a universe is about love, right?
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B
Yes.
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A
And when we, when we die because of the near death experiences, tell us this, right? So this is my cheetah.
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B
Okay. Yeah.
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A
So like we die, right? We go up. It's my surfer dude goes up and there. I've heard that there's nothing but pure love on the other side, right?
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B
Yeah.
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And you feel this warm. It's just love everywhere. If you're in a universe that's not in love in something else, non Duality? Yeah, where they go, man. So is there, like, different heavens for different realities? Or is everyone just go back to Central Station? Like, what? Yeah, dude, my head hurts. I've never smoked weed in my life. That's purely from. It's purely from watching movies my entire life. That's where that came from. But it's a true question. Like, what? Isn't that an insane question? You're the first time I ever heard that this universe is based in love. Yeah, well, what the hell are the other hate? Or is it things that we just haven't even. Concepts that we can't even grasp?
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B
I can find it where she talks about it if you want. Just take me a minute to sort through this. Yeah, go forward. Okay, so let me. Give me just a moment. So this is beautiful. This is where she talks about how she made the journey from when she first had this power for herself to create. Because she didn't. She wasn't born with it. She. It was given to her. And she showed me the process where she merged with the sun and how she became this creative power. And then she had to contend with, do I control or do I let go? And she talks about that process, which is fascinating, but she just has a tiny blurb here where she says. And I don't know if she talks about the other, but I know she said, this is a newfound way of becoming your friend. And Jesus is king there. His friendship is known, his essence, his being. This. Yeah, I swear, there was another place where she talked about it, but I don't remember it. I don't remember it here.
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A
There's a lot of stuff that we've talked about.
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B
I know.
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A
A lot of profound stuff. It's all good.
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B
Yeah, it's amazing.
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A
So, Ann, do you have any final messages or parting messages for the audience? Oh, first of all, where can people find you?
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B
Oh, thank you for asking. So all my stuff is under my name. My website is. It's a N, N E. So Ann with an E. Annetucker.com My YouTube is Ann Tucker on YouTube. And I would love to tell people I have a retreat coming up in October where if they would like to experience healing with the mother of creation, it is the expand your heart retreat. And it's in October in Seattle. And it's all about a deep, deep, deep dive with the mother of creation for three days in Seattle.
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A
That's amazing.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
You guys can feel what I felt in the room. It's amazing. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?
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B
I think that I would just say to trust yourself, to trust your journey, to assume that if you start with the idea that everything is perfect, if you start with the assumption that your journey is perfect and that everything that happened is perfect, and then you start from there, what would shift in your life? And I think that helps us to get past resistance, which is, as we know, the barrier to channeling more light. So if we start with the assumption that your journey has, in its own way, been perfect.
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A
Sounds good. And it has been such a pleasure having you in the studio. I absolutely love talking to you. Adore the mother of Creation. And man, it was just really cool. Cool vibes in the room. Man, I feel enlightened and stuff. And I'm hungry. I gotta go eat. It's been such a pleasure and thank you so much for coming down. I appreciate you, Alex.
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B
You too. Thank you so much.
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A
I'd like to thank Anne and the Mother of Creation for the wisdom and knowledge they've given us today. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to the show notes@next levelsoul.com 620now. If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on next level Soul TV's app where Soul meets strength streaming. Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Roku, Android TV, Fire TV, LG and Samsung apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your Awakening at next LevelSoul TV. Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.
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B
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