Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode 635: What the Spirit Realm Wants Humanity to Know Right Now with Robin Jelinek
Date: November 1, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode features returning guest Robin Jelinek, channeler of the Athena group, in a candid and insightful exploration of what the spirit realm wishes humanity to know at this pivotal time. Host Alex Ferrari and Robin (both as herself and channeling Athena) delve into the themes of personal and collective evolution, managing fear in an uncertain world, the mechanics of channeling, and guidance for aligning with your highest path. The conversation is as practical as it is mystical, marked by hope, humor, and the liberating message of surrender and self-acceptance.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Robin’s Journey: From Skepticism to Allowance (04:15)

• Robin shared her evolution since she began channeling, noting a profound sense of "allowing" for where people are on their path.
• She attributes differences in people's behavior to the openness of their chakras and the energy they allow.
• Quote:
  “Awakening can happen like that ... someone can go from a very closed off state to being wide open and to really, you know, expanding in a direction that they're very surprised by. So it doesn't really have anything to do with time necessarily, but the more allowing that we are to others, the more compassion that we offer, the better they can see themselves.” (04:15)

2. The Human Life of a Channel (07:26)

• Alex points out that even those with extraordinary abilities are not exempt from human struggles.
• Robin explains that being a channel doesn’t make her “better than or higher than anyone else” — she remains human, with mistakes and emotions.
• Quote:
  “I really portray that in the sessions that I have with people... It gives them hope, it gives them belief in themselves that they don't need to be a supernatural, perfect person.” (08:27)

3. Enlightenment as Ongoing Process (11:13)

• The discussion challenges the idea that enlightenment is an endpoint.
• Robin (and Athena) clarify enlightenment means deeper non-attachment and faster release, not the end of human-feeling.
• Quote (Athena via Robin):
  “You're just not attaching to it... They've just reached a level of perception and understanding that they are not the human that a lot of people think that they are.” (11:13)

4. Practices for Spiritual Growth (14:49)

• Robin’s main practice: ongoing observation of self, especially at night when something external is blamed for discomfort.
• Once the feeling is observed (instead of blamed), solutions arise naturally.
• Quote:
  “So I offer them freedom. I offer them the understanding that we are not expected to be perfect. We are experiencers and we are to experience not just based upon the life that we're in, but upon that lineage and that history of all the lives that we've ever lived...” (10:20)

5. The Mechanics of Channeling & Light Language (18:33)

• Robin describes being able to drop into trance instantly.
• Channeling is thought-provoked: “Whenever I think about a topic, I get an answer.”
• The emergence of “light language” — a form of channeled, non-verbal communication — marks a broader human awakening in progress.
• Quote (Athena):
  “Communication is going to become what it is meant to be... telepathy only exists at a higher frequency.” (19:42)

Athena Speaks: Messages from the Spirit Realm

The State and Future of Humanity

(23:12, 24:12, 45:03)

• Athena assures listeners that humanity is in a period of unprecedented upliftment, though cycles of rise and fall are eternal.
• The current "wave" is reaching new heights.
• Quote:
  “We are coming into a time where we are starting to emerge or experience something that has never been experienced before.” (23:12)

On Challenges and Suffering

• Suffering and world challenges are seen not as disasters, but as creative, evolutionary phenomena.
• The key challenge is the frequency of collective worry: focusing on fear expands it.
• Quote:
  “If you look at everything in your life and in the world's life as a creative thing, as an evolutionary thing, ... then you would start to gain the understanding that this is how evolution occurs.” (24:17)

Energetic Shifts and Multidimensional Reality

(27:01-27:45)

• There are potent energetic changes not just on Earth but through the galaxy.
• Innumerable realities and levels exist; humanity is just one expression.

Personal Alignment and Collective Ripple

(27:52, 34:56)

• The best service one can offer: live a sovereign, joyful life and contribute at a high frequency.
• The individual’s frequency affects the collective far more than most realize.
• Quote:
  “The power that one has in alignment is immense. It is massive.” (34:56)

Compassion and Transmutation

(35:30)

• Compassion is the dissolver of negativity; lightworkers naturally transmute lower energies by embracing others without judgment.
• Quote:
  “They can actually be engulfed by it [your compassion].” (36:54)

On Surrender & Trusting the Universe (37:59)

• Fear signals denial of the higher realities already created.
• True power is in surrender — not struggle.
• Quote:
  “If you are one that is fighting for something, you are not assisting in the rise of consciousness. You are not the do gooder that you think you are. You are the one that is holding it back. Go to surrender. Go to believing. Go to letting go... Be accountable.” (49:42)

Free Will, Higher Self, and Disconnection

(41:15, 42:31)

• The universe responds to the frequency of feelings each person emits; free will is how you choose which emotions/frequencies to project.
• Disconnection stems from denying light energy to oneself (via self-judgment and condemnation).
• Quote:
  “You are only disconnected by the denial of light energy that you deny to yourself.” (42:31)

Suffering and Creation

(49:05)

• Suffering arises from belief in lack and not-love; as consciousness rises, those beliefs evaporate.
• Suffering is optional: “Suffering happens when a human thinks and believes that they cannot have, be or do something that they already are.” (48:48)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Enlightenment is more light allowed into your field.” (08:27, Robin)
• “Telepathy only exists at a higher frequency... as you rise up into the fourth and fifth density, you find yourself in a place where the frequency is quite high. The choices will be happiness, joy, love, expectation.” (20:40, Athena/Robin)
• “[Suffering] is not something that someone has to experience. Suffering happens when a human thinks and believes that they cannot have, be or do something that they already are.” (48:48, Athena)
• “If you feel fear, … it's not because you have something to be fearful of. … You're feeling fear because a reality that is already being is being denied.” (37:08, Athena)
• “All is well. … What is being experienced needs to be experienced. … Surrender is to know that as a human and as a race, you do not have as much power as you think you do in bringing what you want to yourself. You can feel it into existence. But you are not the one who cultivates the experience or exactly how it will arrive. So you may as well give up that struggle. You may as well give up that fight.” (49:42, Athena)
• On love & truth: “Love is truth and it's a frequency of telling it exactly the way that it is. Everybody wants the truth. It's the most loving thing for somebody to receive.” (56:58, Robin/ Athena)

Practical Guidance

• Monitor the media you consume and your emotional responses to it.
  If something upsets you, step back — you’re expanding that frequency.
• Observation — not repression — of “negative” emotions invites solutions.
  “I am using my anger right now... Now I’m awake, now I’m aware.” (44:37, Robin)
• Living in alignment and joy is the ultimate service to humanity and the planet.
  Cultivate compassion, reduce judgment, and surrender the need to control outcomes.

Timestamps of Important Segments

• 04:15 — Robin’s shift to allowance and compassion
• 07:26 — Navigating human experience as a channel
• 11:13 — Ongoing enlightenment and non-attachment
• 18:33 — Mechanics of channeling & emergence of light language
• 19:42 — Athena's collective message: new forms of communication
• 23:12 — State of humanity and cyclical collective evolution
• 24:17 — Athena on humanity's main challenge: worrying and expanding negativity
• 27:01 — Energetic shifts on Earth and other realities
• 34:56 — Individual choice, compassion, and collective influence
• 35:30 — Compassion, judgment, and the power to transmute
• 37:59 — Power of surrender and consequences of control
• 42:31 — On disconnection and allowing light
• 48:48 — Deeper purpose of suffering
• 49:42 — Athena's timeless message: “All is well... Surrender.”

Closing Reflections

Robin and Athena leave listeners with a hopeful but unsentimental vision: Humanity is in the midst of an upward turn, yet cycles will continue. By living with joy, surrendering control, and aligning to compassion rather than fear, each person not only transforms their own life but becomes a beacon for planetary evolution. The ultimate teaching? “All is well. Surrender to the unfoldment, and know that you are right where you need to be.”

Find Robin Jelinek at:

• AthenaInTruth.com
• YouTube & Group/Private Kundalini Activations

Learn more about Next Level Soul at: nextlevelsoul.tv

This summary captures the heart and practical wisdom of the conversation. For direct teachings, channeled transmissions, and more, listen to the full episode.