Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode NLS 637: TOP Indigenous Psychic REVEALS MANKIND'S Future in 2026 & What's ATLANTIS' Connection! with Sonja Grace
Released: November 8, 2025

Episode Overview

In this mind-expanding episode of Next Level Soul, host Alex Ferrari sits down with Sonja Grace—an indigenous psychic healer, spirit traveler, and medicine woman. Together, they explore profound questions of humanity’s future, soul healing, karmic cycles, the mysteries of Atlantis, and practical wisdom for navigating our turbulent age. With engaging candor and humor, Sonja reveals unique perspectives rooted in her Native American heritage and spiritual adventures, delivering both visionary revelations and down-to-earth advice.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sonja’s Spiritual Heritage and Psychic Abilities

• Background: Sonja is half Norwegian, with Choctaw and Cherokee roots on her mother’s side. She was born with psychic abilities, able to sense and interact with the spirit world.
  • “I can see, hear, feel, smell, and oddly taste everything in the unseen world in the spirit realm.” – Sonja Grace [04:39]
• Formative Experiences: Grew up seeing spirits; early isolation led her to art and ballet, which developed her sense of time, space, and groundedness.
• Path to Mastery: Years of mentorship with gifted teachers helped her refine and ground her psychic skills:
  • “I had three different brilliant teachers, and they all helped me corral what was happening to me.” – Sonja Grace [07:00]

Sobriety and the Importance of Inner Work

• Long-Term Sobriety: Sonja attributes her clarity and effectiveness to 44 years of sobriety, noting the detrimental impact of addiction on spiritual perception.
• Modern Spiritual Community: She critiques surface-level spiritual seeking that ignores deep emotional and physical healing:
  • “We’ve got all these people who have entered the spiritual community without addressing that basic dysfunction that many of us inherited in our family structure.” – Sonja Grace [11:10]
• Healing Process: True healing requires openness and surrender, not just passive participation in spiritual activities.

Native and Hopi Medicine Work

• Role as Medicine Woman: Within the Hopi community, Sonja serves as a medicine woman, practicing long-distance healing but also working in-person when needed.
• Traditional and Energetic Healing: She describes performing psychic “surgeries,” removing energetic blockages and processing emotional trauma—often connected to somatic illness and karmic patterns:
  • “I am taking that cancer out… energetically do the work. But it has to pass through the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual bodies, and it has to hurdle the ego.” – Sonja Grace [14:18–14:44]
• Indigenous Practices Around Black Magic: Sonja regularly encounters and clears black magic, curses, and negative energies—cultural practices like “witching” are prevalent in Hopi and many indigenous cultures (also echoed in Santería and other traditions).
  • “I am like a priest disguised as a woman in the 21st century. I kid you not. I’m doing exorcisms all day long.” [27:05]

Auras, Chakras, and Energetic Awareness

• Chakra & Aura Reading: Sonja explains how everyone projects energy, outlining examples from celebrities to everyday people:
  • “We’re reckless with our energy. We’re not managing our energy in a way that takes responsibility… The more we ground our energy into the earth, the more that earth energy will come up and support you.” [29:41–33:11]
• Demonstration: Sonja reads Alex’s chakras live, describing in detail the colors, energies, and assessments of each chakra.
• Authenticity & Female Authority: She highlights the need for women to reclaim authentic authority, distinct from mimicking male power structures:
  • “What is the authentic authority of a woman? I think it’s a great question and something I’d love for your audience to ponder.” [42:52]

Dimensions, Vibrational Shifts & The Fifth Dimension

• Earth’s Evolution: Humanity is moving from the fourth into the fifth dimension, a higher vibration demanding personal work and awareness.
  • “This fifth dimension is a high, high vibration that is requiring us to raise our vibration to meet it… You have to do the work.” [47:52, 51:21]
• Purpose: Our core purpose is to love deeply and universally—love is the vibrational key to navigating higher dimensions.
  • “We are here to love at the deepest level of our being… supposed to love everybody around the world as much as we love our families, our dogs, our cats, our children.” [49:02–51:18]

Spirit Travel, Atlantis, and Ancient Civilizations

• Spirit Traveling: Sonja describes her method of traveling (in meditation) to ancient sites and moments in history, guided by angelic beings:
  • “I call my ability to spirit travel a process in which I have to go into meditation. I can’t go anywhere unless I am fully dissolved.” [56:45]
• Atlantis:
  • Visited both the beginning (approx. 250,000 BC) and end of Atlantis.
  • Atlantis possessed advanced, possibly extraterrestrial technology, including a nuclear-powered sphere that was misused, contributing to its downfall.
  • Otherworldly beings and comets were involved in the civilization’s cataclysm.
  • “We first went back to Atlantis right before Atlantis fell… There was another race of beings not from Earth that got a hold of that sphere, and it caused a nuclear reaction.” [59:27–62:08]
• Pyramids & Giants:
  • Describes the Great Pyramid as a teleportation device, not a tomb, used for interstellar travel (Orion’s Belt connection).
  • “The Great Pyramid was built first with the sarcophagus and the room that that is held in. That was the first part that was built… it does go to Orion’s Belt.” [65:08–66:02]
  • Attributes the construction of ancient megaliths to giants (“Mu”) from Pegasus, who aided humanity.

Karma, Cycles, and Past Lives

• Everything Cyclical & Karmic:
  • “Everything, even this moment between you and I, it’s karmic.” [62:08]
  • Individual ailments and emotional patterns often have roots in unresolved past lives; she demonstrates how clearing these can have instant effects.
  • “It kept going where it was always the leg and always being either shattered, broken, or cut off… it’s karmic.” [85:54–86:23]
• Soul Purpose: Each individual has distinct karmic gifts—spiritual growth isn’t one-size-fits-all; authentic fulfillment requires aligning with one’s soul blueprint.

Prophecies, Hope, and the Future (2026 and Beyond)

• Cycles of Humanity:
  • Every civilization phase (e.g., Atlantis, Lemuria, modern times) follows cyclical patterns of rise and fall; we are now at a major turning point.
• Prophecies: Hopi and various indigenous prophecies predict the end of the current age but emphasize hope and collective responsibility:
  • “As a collective, it is up to us… we must light a fire under our hope.” [95:25, 115:51]
• Current State of the World:
  • “I think there’s some really good things in the future, but I also, I think it’s important that people not be naive to the fact that there are cycles… that the Earth has that are going to repeat. They will repeat.” [111:16]
• Advice for Navigating Now:
  • Ground yourself in nature, meditate, raise your vibration, and focus on hope as an antidote to fear and chaos.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Spiritual Addiction:
  • “Spiritualism has become as big of an addiction as any addiction.” – Sonja Grace [78:09]
• On Authentic Power:
  • “I talk with Authority, Because I know what I’m talking about. I’ve lived it. I’m in the trenches.” – Sonja Grace [41:25]
• On Humanity’s Purpose:
  • “We’re here because of her, because of the Earth. And we’re bound to her forever.” – Sonja Grace [96:49]
• On Practical Grounding:
  • “Go outside barefoot and stand in the grass, stand on the dirt and get yourself grounded… that’s why we’re here, is because of her.” – Sonja Grace [118:21]

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Sonja’s background and psychic awakening – [04:39–07:00]
• Spirituality & sobriety; addiction in spiritual communities – [11:10–14:18]
• Role as a medicine woman; encounters with black magic – [21:32–27:16]
• Auras, chakras, and energy fields explained & live reading – [29:41–39:27]
• Authentic female authority & collective healing – [41:25–45:00]
• Dimensional shift, humanity’s purpose & vibrational work – [47:52–51:18]
• Spirit traveling and ancient wisdom: Atlantis, pyramids, giants – [56:45–66:02]
• Karma, past life healing, physical symptoms – [85:54–89:31]
• Prophecy and the future: cycles, hope, and responsibility – [93:40–115:51]
• Concluding advice: grounding, hope, Earth connection – [118:12–119:21]

Final Takeaways: Sonja’s Wisdom for Listeners

• Grounding & Meditation: Go outside and connect with the Earth—this is the surest way to cope with turmoil and restore your spirit.
• Hope is Critical: Amidst chaos and uncertainty, nurturing hope within ourselves and our children is vital for a positive future.
• Do the Inner Work: True evolution requires honest shadow work—not just spiritual window dressing.
• Reconnect with Purpose: Remember, your existence is intimately tied to the Earth and to ancient cycles; honoring your own karmic gifts is the path to fulfillment.

Sonja Grace’s links and resources:

• sonjagrace.com
• Instagram: @therealsonjagrace
• Books, documentaries, and upcoming fiction series can be found via her website.

Memorable Closing Message:
“Keep your hope alive, because hope is everything for the generations that are coming.” – Sonja Grace [119:14]