Podcast Summary: Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode NLS 651
Title: Top Hellenistic Astrologer REVEALS Humanity's Challenging FUTURE CYCLES for 2026-2032! with Jorge Roque
Date: December 27, 2025
Host: Alex Ferrari
Guest: Jorge Roque (Hellenistic Astrologer)

Episode Overview

In this illuminating episode, Alex Ferrari welcomes Cuban-born Hellenistic astrologer Jorge Roque to unpack the roots of traditional Western astrology, explore the current and future astrological cycles, and offer a candid look at humanity’s upcoming challenges — especially between 2026 and 2032. They discuss the interplay of fate, free will, and soul contracts, and reflect on personal and collective awakening in a time of rapid and sometimes turbulent change. Roque also shares how his spiritual evolution and personal healing journey were catalyzed by past life regression and discovering supportive spiritual content, dovetailing astrology with greater soul awareness.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Jorge Roque & Hellenistic Astrology

(03:09 – 11:38)

• Identity & Background:
  Roque is the first Cuban astrologer featured on the show, practicing a deeply rooted form of astrology stemming from Babylonian, Egyptian, and Greek traditions.

  • “I’m actually a fresh Cuban, made and assembled in Cuba itself.”—Jorge Roque (03:36)

• Hellenistic vs. Modern Astrology:

  • Focuses mainly on traditional planets; treats Pluto, Uranus, Neptune with skepticism, considering them only as secondary influences.
  • Views astrology more scientifically, as a “millenary discipline” grounded in patterns that repeat and can be reliably documented.
  • Electional and astrocartography methods: finding auspicious timing and best places for life’s activities.

• Fatalism vs. Free Will:

  • Hellenistic astrology leans more fatalistic—believes the natal chart reflects inherent potential and limits, like a “software configuration.”
  • “Your free will is limited by your ability, the one that is reflected on the chart.”—Jorge Roque (14:44)

2. Astrology, Destiny, and the Soul’s Blueprint

(17:12 – 28:01)

• Blueprint Analogy & Movie Metaphors:
  • Life is like playing out a script or contract chosen pre-incarnation; resisting your nature causes suffering, embracing it brings happiness.
  • “When you are born, that natal chart is like a software configuration or firmware injected into you.”—Jorge Roque (18:39)
• Astrology & Spiritual Philosophy:
  • While Hellenistic astrology doesn’t include past/other lives, Roque notes other branches (like evolutionary astrology) explore karmic influence.
  • Personal stories of past life regression and spiritual awakening, including “between lives” planning experiences.

3. The Roots and Branches of Astrology

(28:25 – 35:11)

• History of Hellenistic Practice:

  • Emerged from 2nd century BCE through the 7th century CE; major branching off occurred due to cultural forces such as the rise of Christianity.
  • Comparison with Vedic and Chinese astrologies, including differences in techniques like zodiacal releasing.

• Astrological Analysis of Historical Figures/Events:

  • Roque recounts deep emotional responses when analyzing the astrological chart of the Crucifixion (using historical eclipse and planetary clues).
  • “There was a combination of things that was telling me, definitely, there was something divine going on with this guy.” —Jorge Roque (35:09)

4. Macro Cycles and the Coming Turbulence: 2026–2032

(40:33 – 57:22)

• Recurring Major Planetary Cycles:

  • Pluto’s 248-year return to Aquarius and Uranus’s 84-year return to Gemini as markers for revolution, conflict, and social upheaval.
    • French Revolution and American Revolution correlated with previous patterns.
    • Each Uranus-in-Gemini return roughly coincides with major American conflicts: the Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWII—next due in 2026.

• Forecast for the United States:

  • Tension and internal strife are expected to escalate from 2026 onward, peaking around 2032–2033, coinciding with the decline of US global hegemony and the rise of China as a new superpower.
  • “After 2026, the tension and the problem within the United States are going to be increasing and getting more difficult to tolerate.” —Jorge Roque (49:19)
  • Roque relocated from the US stating, “I always say that I like to be early a year before than a day late because I knew what is coming.” (47:55)

• Paradigm Shifts & Collective Evolution:

  • Acknowledges cycles of empires: Rome, Britain, Spain, and the transition from world dominance to “legacy empires.”
  • Expects the US to remain influential but not dominant; sees a gradual, not instant, change (over 15 years).

5. The Shadow, Awakening, and Hope for Humanity

(73:18 – 98:13)

• Collective Dark Night & Awakening:

  • Ferrari highlights that spiritual awakening is accelerating globally, using the podcast itself as a testament.
  • Roque discusses his personal “crisis” in 2020, moving from IT success to a deeper calling, influenced by hypnosis, reconciliation with his father, and eventually past life regression.
  • “I started realizing our life is eternal… a continual learning process to understand why we are who we are.” —Jorge Roque (82:41)

• The Role of Spiritual Content & Community:

  • Roque credits the show and similar content with helping him dismantle limiting dogmas, find courage, and launch his own astrology channel ("Astrogia").
  • Notes a shift from fighting to observing and respecting diverse truths, letting go of fear and guilt rooted in religious upbringing.

• Cycle of Shadow Producing Light:

  • “Whenever there’s a great negative, a great positive will go up to balance it.” —Alex Ferrari (90:25)
  • Both agree that turbulent times are necessary for collective growth, compassion, and rebalancing (e.g., post-WWII peace, multiculturalism).

6. Looking Forward: After the Storm

(65:42 – 71:27)

• Post-2032 Vision:
  • America will open up and become more culturally inclusive, “more like Europe,” and value humanity over power.
  • The Pluto in Aquarius era will emphasize freedom, transcending technological or governmental oppression, and foster greater tolerance.
  • “The new society coming after these dark times…will be more focused on the value of humanity, not the value of might or power.”—Jorge Roque (68:06)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We are not psychics. We are actually like a musician reading a chart, like a partiture of musical notes... published by the creator on the heavens.” — Jorge Roque (10:53)
• “Your natal chart is like the software that was installed, a letter that is opening up little by little.” — Jorge Roque (21:04)
• “Nothing that you’re saying is surprising. It’s all kind of like 2026, 2027... it starts to cool off around 2032”—Alex Ferrari (49:56)
• “During that time I was battling with the big question: so, we reincarnate? There are other lives? So, there’s no heaven and hell? …Your channel was instrumental to make me be more tolerant and understanding.” — Jorge Roque (82:41)

Timestamps of Key Segments

• 03:09 — Introduction to Jorge Roque & Hellenistic Astrology
• 14:44 — Fatalism and destiny in astrology
• 21:04 — Natal chart as a software/blueprint
• 28:35 — Historical roots of Hellenistic astrology
• 35:09 — Astrological analysis of the Crucifixion
• 40:33 — Astrological cycles and conflict: 2026-2032 forecast
• 47:55 — Roque’s rationale for leaving the US
• 49:56 — Period of US decline/China rise (2026-2032)
• 65:42 — Vision for post-2032 America
• 73:18 — Dark night of the collective soul, necessity of challenge
• 75:28 — Roque’s spiritual and personal healing journey
• 82:41 — Impact of spiritual content on deconstructing dogma, launching “Astrogia”

Resources & Further Information

• Jorge Roque’s Astrology Website/YouTube: Astrogia
• Next Level Soul Podcast: www.nextlevelsoul.com

Tone:
Warm, deeply reflective, candid, and grounded in both scholarship and lived wisdom. The conversation balances sober warnings about world changes with hope for awakening and collective transformation. Dialog is enriched with metaphors, analogies, and shared humor, often relating spiritual and historical principles to modern realities.

Summary prepared for listeners who wish to understand the core themes, insights, and future outlook shared in this profound episode without needing to listen in full. For full context and Jorge Roque's personal stories, tune in to the original episode.