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NLS 659: The Danish Scientist Who Crossed Into The Spiritual World with Marzcia Techau
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Marzcia Techau was trained as a scientist—until the spirit world refused to leave her alone. In this powerful conversation, she shares how intuitive dreams, death predictions, and relentless spiritual contact forced her to confront a reality her...
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Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here, we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion, a space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now, let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome to the show Marsha Takao. How you Doing, Marcia?
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I'm doing very, very fine. And thank you very much for having me.
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Oh, thank you so much for being here. I'm looking forward to this conversation because you have a very interesting spiritual journey, to say the least, of where you came from to where you are. But you come from. You come at the angle from scientist point of view is where you kind of started this whole thing. So you are a trained scientist, and in your book, which we'll talk about later, your soul, your life, the guy, the guide to healing and self. To healing and self healing. Before we get to that, it was a long road to get to this book.
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Yes, it was. Yeah, that's right.
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So you're a trained scientist. What originally did you believe was happening when you were starting to have these kind of experiences? To my understanding, you were having something that was starting to make you question the nature of reality.
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I studied biology as a master in biology, and the road has been like. I have been a sensitive child all my life. Easy, overwhelmed by other people and seeking the contact with animals and nature. And when I was in my late teens, I got dreams about warning about death two times. And it was like it was a week before the death happened. So in my late teens, I started to have experiences that I couldn't explain in a normal way, but still I had this feeling of wanting to close down my contact to the spirit world. And I was really much afraid of that contact, actually, because, you know, okay, people. It was actually my loved animals that were. I dreamt dying and then they died. So in that way, I closed down. I didn't really feel for having contact with the spirit world. And I started to train myself. The first thing was I wanted to be a ranger, because rangers do not have contact with people. They have contact with nature and forest. And then I found out, okay, actually, I really like biology because this deep question about how can we take care of the nature? How can we. How can we prevent or preserve it? And then the next question was, what is life? And then everything started really much, because my scientific background wants me to investigate what's life. And then I can see that biology has problems trying to explain it in only a matter, you know, not the mind, not the divine part, only matter. And then I could see what I experienced in my own life with contact with the spirits. And when I was in my mid-20s, I started to have reiki healing. So I started to heal people. And I could see that what I was being taught in the university didn't really fit in to what I am Experiencing myself. And what I saw happened when I start healing people. So the last part of my, my master degree was actually this study that I made where I studied the healing effects on plants that were stressed. Somehow they got a little too. The nurturing wasn't good enough. And of course they got water because then they were dead. But there were some, some things where they were stressed. So I had healers to come and heal the plants, some of them. And of course I have control plants. So in that way, I made a study where I investigated the effects of healing because I wanted to understand what healing actually could do. And if we heal people, everybody say placebo. But if you heal plants, then if people say, okay, it's only placebo, that the plants have an effect of healing, then they should actually recognize that plants had a consciousness as well. And then again, it would also be a win. So that study was a win win. The healing could work and it wasn't placebo. And if people thought, okay, it is placebo, then plants could actually have a consciousness that we could somehow affect. So that would actually be good. So my biology study was a healing study as well.
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So let me ask you, I detect an accent. So you're obviously not from the United States. Culturally, you're from Denmark, correct?
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Yes. Yes, that's right.
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Correct. So culturally, how is spirituality looked upon in, in that, in that country? I mean, for me, I'm a Latino, so I come from a Latino Caribbean background. That psychics, medium, spirituality, black magic, white magic, all that stuff is really in. Just in our blood. So we're very open to that stuff. How is it in your culture it's not that open?
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It wasn't when I started. I was quite young when I started, actually, I started with my spiritual healing sessions. And I'm psychic media. I'm a biologist as well. I'm a healer. And in that way, psychic. Consular. Your psychic? Yeah. So I have psychic readings, healing, mediumship. And in Denmark, it wasn't really that well known and accepted at all. And I had really problems because I wanted to have a PhD where I investigated the healing effects on cancer patients or how we could, you know, help people integrate healing into the healthcare system. And I really didn't get any money at all. So I had to. Somehow my dream about that I had to let go of because I couldn't get money for my PhD. And I think that's a part of the problem in Denmark at that time was that they were really conservative and wasn't really open for looking at new directions or how we integrate body, mind and soul. So we still have. Even though I have been working for 25 years nearly now, I have seen a really big opening in Denmark. But in the start it wasn't really easy. But I was educated a psychic medium when I was 30 years old and I was a really young one and we weren't that many and I just love doing my work and I still do. So in that way I've been following the process of what can we say, how people in Denmark actually expand their consciousness about the spiritual matters. And that's really good because we have a lot of sensitive children and youngsters that really needs the unders to understand that we have so many potentials that are connected to our soul and how to live in our world. And they need help to understand how they. They can use that in a good way. So actually I think that we are a little behind somewhere somehow in Denmark. But it's getting so much better. The last 10 years has been really, really good. There has been a lot of TV shows, a lot of books, a lot of people educated as healers and psychic mediums now. And it. I think it's rising really, really good. But in the. When I started earlier, it was. It wasn't that well known. Yeah.
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So let me ask you. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show. You know, we, we.
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You.
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You basically said that you had some dreams about death of your animals coming in and then they happened at. Since you weren't. It doesn't sound like you were raised spiritually. So you didn't have a very deep spiritual background at all. So when these things started to happen, were you ever scared that this was actually a real thing? Like the spirit world is. Oh my God. It's changing my foundation. Because when you, when you, when you are programmed as a child in whatever culture or family or religion or belief system, when that is shaken, when you're shown something that shakes that it can. It can be traumatic for the person depending on how deep they were in that original story. So how did you process this as you were going. Because you were still going to school in, in the scientific path, but yet thinking about psychic mediums in the spirit world and communicating with the other side. So how did you process all of that?
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Mostly it was the prediction of the death were really, really scary. And what happens later on was that I started to sense the presence of mostly dead animal that I knew, but I was afraid of that as well. And I just have. It's like A feeling of, okay, it's not really happening. It's just a part of my imagination. It's not there. And still, because I'm a very curious person and I have this mixture of being a science, a scientist, civic person, and a healer at the same time. It's not like I have those two all the time. You know, we're looking at each other, trying to find a way to. To fit in. And the third thing was that I was so sensitive that many times I knew what people were feeling and how they were and they were saying something different. And I was like, okay, you say you're fine, but actually I feel you're not. So am I wrong or do you still alive? And I was so confused a long time till I started to really have the feeling of contact. I started to heal. With Reiki healing, it opened up for angels and spirits. And I could sense the soul of each person when I was working with them. And I could sense the presence of the spirit world helping. And in that realm, I really felt enormous love and support. So when I was working, I was feeling safe. But when I didn't work and there was still was a lot of spirits running around and I could sense them, I really had these big walls around me. And I really thought, okay, maybe I'm insane. Maybe there isn't any spirit world at all. Because it wasn't really. It wasn't. I couldn't really talk to people around me because they didn't have the same experiences that I had. So I am. When I was in my late 20s, I met my spouse that I have now. And that was actually the first time I described that person because it was so intense. So I described this person and my spouse recognized it. And I was like, okay, so it's actually true. And in that moment, something really happened with this wall that I was, you know, building around myself. Because if it was true and all the other things that I was experiences, what experiencing as well was true then. Whoa. It was big then. So at that time, I had this. I had two paths. I should go to the doctor and say, I hear things and I feel ups. I feel that people are looking at my me even though they are not there. You know, that wouldn't be really good to go there.
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Generally not.
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So I went to this in Denmark at that time. There was one school teaching psychic mediums how to. To train their skills. And I went to that school, and that was a big turnover for me because what I learned there was that I could control my sensory system. I could Control when I was open to the contact and you know, dialogue with the spirit world or when I was just myself. And that was actually a really, really good turning point because that meant that I could start to have the feeling of being me and also that I had the help to not feel a lot of other person. Even they are dead or they are alive. They were disturbing for me. So my training was that when I was working, I was in deep contact with spirit world. They were working through me. I could, you know, like, you know, give advice and stuff like that. And, and also the healing work were immensely sleep better when I started to have my training with my psychic abilities. So what was interesting in that was that I found out that combined with my biology study, I knew how the, a person, you know, how we work as a. How our sensory system works, how we sense the presence of if it's cold, warm emotions. We have something called mirror neurons where we mirror each other. So when you smile, it's more likely that I'm smiling. When the little kid is looking up at mama and mama and smiling and the kid is smiling and the happiness starts. That's actually something we mirror in our relation with each other. And those mirror neurons are connected with the bottom body. And when you use your sensori system to sense the spirit world, you also get the sensations within yourself. And when you mirror, you mirror the surroundings and other people and all those information comes into your nervous system as things that you don't really recognize that you know, but you know them. So my training was to find out what people subconsciously know about other people and actually say, okay, this is me, this is the spirit world, this is another living person. And start to control my sensori system to be myself and mirror myself.
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So basically your spouse was the, the determining factor of you going all in. Because it was proof. It was a proof because until you have someone else or something else that can really without a shadow of a doubt give you something to, to hold on to. It's just, I'm hearing voices. You're not ed. No one's talking to you about it. You're alone. Yeah, but when the, but when your spouse said no, no, I, I see it or I feel it too. And you're like, oh, I'm not crazy. And that kind of just opened the floodgates for you. And that's when you started.
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Totally. Yeah, totally. Because it opened it open to an accept or recognize recognition of what I actually was capable of. Capable of. And then I started the path and it was a. It has Been a big, big joy since that. It's all the love, all the healing power that the spiritual world has to offer us and support us with all the time. Yeah, it's. It's something that with Reiki, everybody can heal, but of course, not everybody should work as a professional with psychic abilities in that way. But every people has a really big potential to use the healing power within themselves to heal themselves, to heal traumas. They have to heal the people around them, if. If you want to, of course. So it's. It's a potential that everybody has as a part of their soul, as I see it.
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Let's. Let's talk a little bit about the death premonitions. When the first one came in, how did it come in? I know you said it was a dream, but was it emotionally? Was it intuitively? Was it scary? Because when you first saw, you didn't know it was going to come true. I guess it became a little scary afterwards. But as they continue to come in, do they always come in in dreams or do they come in. You can feel it physically. You can feel it emotionally, intuitively. How does it work?
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The first times, it was in dreams. So the first dream was that I was finished with my high school. I had been riding Icelandic horses for many years, and I went to Iceland after my degree. And when I was in Iceland, it was the first time I was away from home for a longer time. And there I had this dream where my sheep, which was called Sig Saxine. And we had a really, really good connection, the sheep and I.
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As one does with sheep.
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Yes, yes. You know, that's. And then at night, I was. In the morning, I wake up. Woke up with this dream about that she was dying. And my grandfather was not sick either. He was really like. He was going to. He was totally blue in his face. He couldn't really speak. And he was saying to me, oh, you know, sick Saxen is going to die. And I, in that dream, had to, you know, really distinguish between my sheep and my grandfather. And I had to say, okay, okay, it's her time, but it's not your time.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show.
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So in that way, I knew deeply in this dream that she was going to die. And there was a difference between her and my grandfather, and he was not going to die. And I woke up, you know, really scared and really listen. And then I went to the. To the. To the shop and bought a big postcard with a sheep on, because they have a lot of those in Iceland. And then I brought home 6, 16 keep hanging in there. I will be home in a week. And that was quite interesting because the, the postcard landed and my. In my parents postcard box the day they picked me up in the airport. But that was also the day that the sheep was dying and they had buried her. So my parents actually had borrowed the, you know, she was dead and they picked me up and my dad had to tell me, you know, I just read your postcard and the sheep is dead. And what was. They didn't really think about it, but I thought a lot about it because how could I know that one week before it was so intense for me. So I have sent her a postcard, of course also I will be home and I am all right. Dad and mom and dad. But it was actually for her to keep her hanging on there. And so I knew that and that was really, really like how was it possible nine months later? I had something like that as well. A dream about a horse that I was going home to ride. You know, it's. Yeah. And she died as well. So it was like. And I was in Thailand at that time. So it's like, how is it possible to know that who is giving me the information? So I was quite intrigued by it and it has formed me a lot then the development into, you know, investigating how it was possible, how I could use my skills and how I could combine it with my natural science. It has been a big part of my life how to use the knowledge we have from nature. Silence in cooperation with what I know from the spirit world and the healing work.
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Let me ask you, you. You were saying earlier that you're very empathic. You're very sensitive to people and people's energies and things like that. As you've continued to walk down this path and do this kind of work, you're exposed to more and more people and also you're dealing with energy work as well. And also, you know, psychic work and, and so on mediumship. So how do you protect your energy doing this work and any advice you have for other empaths watching on how they can protect their, their energy because it is a thing. I personally don't like being in large crowds. It, it's like it, I, I get overwhelmed and have been since I was a kid. It's, I'm, I'm very empathic that way. So I, I've done things from my own world to try to protect my own energy when especially doing the work I do all the time talking to high energy folks like yourself. Yeah. So how, how does it work for you?
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When I was again in my start 20s, I moved out of. I'm born on the country, I grown up on the countryside in Denmark. And I went into the big Copenhagen, which is not that big, but you know, the biggest town in Denmark to study. And there I was in a old house where there was a lot of dead people. And remember again, I wouldn't really. I wasn't like, it's not existing, it's not existing, but I'm really scared. I was that way. So actually there I started to use like I called on my guardian angel. I called for an angel standing, coming down through light, standing beside me or behind me and just surrounding me with the power of my guardian angel. In that way I got. I use and still use my guardian angel to regulate my nervous system. And in that way when you're not afraid, you're not overwhelmed. So when you are in a surrounding with love, your nervous system relaxes. And because it relaxes you can actually much better keep your grounding and the contact to yourself. So in that way I started without the training at all. I started to use the contact to my guardian angel. And what I found out after that is that when people have near death experiences, they talk about coming to this tunnel of light where there is peacefulness, there is love and often there is contact with the spirit world as well. And as well in this near death experience. So what I have been doing is to. I call it the pillar of light. But actually connect myself with this near. This expense. Near this near death tunnel exists for me it's like a dimension. So it's not a tunnel, it's a dimension.
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And when you look like a wormhole.
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Like a wormhole or almost not, not really. I see it more like a dimension where you're actually connected with your soul are connected with that dimension all the time. So it's not when you're only dying, it's like a present within you and around you all the time. You just have to move your focus into that. So when you, when you sleep at night, you're in contact with that. When you are in deep meditation or you have the intense to be in contact intention to be in contact with spirit world. You actually have this, this dimension is the. Some like the spirit world can easily come to you and you can easily come to that. So what I use to protect myself actually is to be connected with that dimension and to the spirit world around in that connection. My team of guides, the guardian angels. And in that way there is a secure place with both an inner secure place, but also my surroundings. Because what we do as human beings, we use our sensori system to somehow sense is it a safe place or is it not a safe place? If you enter a room and you sense the room is not pleasant, your nervous system and your system will start to react. If you enter a room and it's a nice place, then all your system can relax and you are open for receiving both love and support and you're grounded and yourself. So what I do to protect myself is first of all use my. This is also one of my free healing meditations on my website. This pillar of light is of course. So the pillar of light healing meditation is where you come in contact with this realm or this dimension. And then you can also use your guardian angels. So you start to actually, instead of getting noise from other people or disturbing energy from surroundings, you create your own surrounding connected with something that's really, really there for you. Because your guardian angel, your angel knows you. So that's one of the things I do very much. So I'm grounded, actually. I use the guardian angel and the spirit world to be grounded because if I'm not in, in a place where I'm feeling safe and feeling all right, actually I'm not grounded and then it's difficult to be me. But if I'm grounded and I sense myself, my soul and I'm present, then I can, you know, I can manage much more input without getting disturbed. So I use that. It's very simple to do. And the next thing is I have to find out what's trickling me. So what in other people or surroundings is tricking me, tricking fear or feeling of not belonging and stuff like that. So I have to look of what kind of patterns or traumas or things that can trigger me out of my safe place where I'm feeling good and grounded. And that's where the healing work starts, which is quite interesting. So when you start to do the healing work, your nervous system relaxes. When it relaxes, you feel more in ease with yourself, more grounded, more at home, and you're not that easily, you know, shaken. So the other part is actually your own development, your self healing, your knowledge about, okay, what have you inherited from your ancestor, what have you adapted or which traumas do you have from your early childhood? Stuff like that can actually help you very much when you work with that. You also release your nervous system and come in better contact with your soul. That Automatically has a bit of contact with the divine. It's like our soul is divine. So if you're in contact with that, you're in contact with the divine. It's easy in that way as well.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show. When you went down this path, Marsha, I got to believe that your family and friends around you kind of looked at you a little odd. As a general statement, how did you. And please, if I'm. If I'm incorrect with that, please let me know. But most people, most psychic mediums I've spoken to, when they go out publicly, because it's one thing to do it quietly, friends, family. But when they write a book and they're out there publicly and this is now their career, there's ridicule, there's people who don't understand, people who think you're doing the devil's work, all this kind of nonsense. How did you process that? And what advice would you have for others who are in the same boat, who are starting to awaken, starting to find out that they don't. They have their own abilities and are afraid of what their family is going to say or their friends are going to say or what the world is going to say.
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I think it's very important that that's actually to. To have the contact for yourself for a while, to get the feeling of that you're not alone. So when you're connected with your soul and the divine and the spirit world, this deep feeling of. Of belonging and also have a purpose starts to emerge. And when you have that feeling and you sense yourself a little bit more, then it's easier to stand your own ground, even though other people feel something opposite. And in my. My parents weren't against it. It just didn't really understand it. They had tried to understand it and stuff like that. And I haven't really felt that, you know, I, I was outside from the start, you, you know, anyways, it wasn't people that knew me had. They loved me for who I. Who I am.
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You were, you were a strange bird. You were a strange bird.
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So, you know, just even. But, but, you know, now with nice little feathers. So. So what's really interesting was that the university there, of course they had this, okay, so you are studying, you are really good student, you have good grades, and you still work with the spirit world. That was interesting for them. But again, because I didn't say you should believe this, or I just said, okay, let me believe mine. And do my job and I will let you do yours. I don't want to. I don't want to. Of course, if you ask me, I will explain how I sense the world, how I experience the world and what I can do. But if you don't ask me, I will tell you. And I won't go into a discussion if it's true or not. Because for me it's true. And it's okay. It's not true for you. Because I knew how overwhelming it was for me to experience that. What I thought was right was totally different. So when I opened for this gate to the spirit world, my life was transforming very, very fast. Something that I had believed, I didn't believe anymore. And what I now sense was so full of power that it was like there was no way to return that. And I don't want people to have that experience before they are ready. And they are only ready to when they start to listen to themselves and sense that you are your soul, you're not your brain.
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So you mentioned earlier and in your book as well, how you can use your own innate healing abilities to not only heal yourself physically, but also heal yourself of trauma and other things. Can you explain to people how they can start the process of self healing? The trauma, specifically? Trauma. Yeah, that, that we go through because all of us, every single human being on the planet has a trauma of one way, shape or form.
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Totally. Yeah.
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No one gets out alive, as they say.
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There is only one thing, you know, totally sure in our life that we are born and we die. The rest is really up to.
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And taxes. Taxes, Generally speaking, taxes for most people. But anyway, so what, what. How can we tap into that ability within ourselves to help deal with the trauma and heal the traumas within us?
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In, in my book, you saw your life, I. I describe different ways to do it. It's like exercises and different contexts. You can, you can use. And I have a lot of healing meditation that I have recorded. And again, as I said earlier, some of them are free healing meditations. And the free ones is actually the ones learning where you can connect with this pillar of light. You can connect with the divine, you can connect with your, with the guardian angel, you can release the energy from other people. I have something I call the bucket exercise where you actually start to acknowledge that much of what you think and feel maybe are not your own thoughts or feelings. Even some people that are really sensitive feel other people's tensions and hurts in the physical body. So when you are empath as you are the bucket Exercise is very good because you connect with the pillar of light, the healing energy, and then you start to release what's not yours. And it could be from the day that you have just been through. So often I recommend that you do it before you go to sleep, because then you don't have to in the nighttime dream about all the stuff that's not yours and all the stress. So if you just listen to that one before you go to sleep, you will be in contact with your soul, yourself, and there will be more peace. And you can go into a deeper development with yourself and the spirit world in the night time because there's a lot of healing going on every time we go to sleep. So the, the bucket exercise is one that I can recommend. And then when you have used to that on a daily basis, you can start to use an ah, the trauma from my childhood, all the trauma from somewhere else. You can start to ask for healing for that and also notice that some of your trauma you have actually copy pasted from your parents of you have inherited from your lineage. Because there's a lot of healing and a lot of epigenetic transferred traumas from your ancestors. And the next part is actually you can connect with the pillar of light and then you can ask for help from your ancestors because they are ready to help you to heal the traumas that are transferred within your lineage. It's not meant for you to carry the traumas of others, but when they are on the other side, they actually have the potential to come with the healing power. They can take responsibility for the trauma and for their wrongdoings or misdoings, and you can release what's not yours. So they can take responsibility for it. They can take it off your back or your shoulders, they can heal it, and they can also strengthen your soul. Connected with your body is meant to be a connection, not a disconnection. When we have trauma, we are disconnected. When we are full of other people's emotions and thoughts, we have problems sensing our own being of potential within our soul. So, so when you train to use the pillar of light and the contact to spirit world, you can also have the contact to your ancestors. It's normal for people, very many cultures, and also what your background is. It's normal to have the contact with ancestors, but ask them for the healing work that lies within the lineage. The epigenetic healing is really, really transformative because you're carrying a lot that's not yours and it's from the past. If we should go forward as humankind, we have to release the traumas, the negative beliefs from the past. And we have to grow within our soul connection and the light that everybody actually have. So when you do that, you releases all the inherit patterns. That creates a lot of conflict. So in that way you can use the ancestors to heal you, but they would not only heal you, they would also heal your lineage, both the one after you, before you and the prison lineage. So in that way we have a potential to heal humankind very much. Because the heaviness, the mental, emotionally trauma heaviness on earth, when you start to release that within yourself and within your lineage, that makes a huge difference. So they are ready to heal you. They want you to succeed. Because if you succeed, the lineage succeed. And that way we have really strong powers.
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And that's a part of the cell healing as well. But it's also an understanding of from where do you come and also the power that you actually have. I was trained by a Hawaiian healer that really much trained me in this contact with the ancestors because that's a big part of the Hawaiian culture and it's not a big part of my Western Danish culture. But I had the training as a medium, spiritual medium, where I had contact to deceased loved ones. But this one is much bigger because it's the whole, it's, it's the ancestors that come and helps you. They have a lot of power. Your soul have life force, your ancestors have life force. When your life force on your soul are connected with you and your body, you can start to live your life with much more life. Not just surviving, but living. And many of us have patterns, thoughts inherit from my lineage that only have the focus on surviving, but what about living? And that's actually what we can gain by doing the self healing work. And there are so many ways to do it. But Pillar of Light healing, meditation and the, and the bucket exercise are two really simple and good ways to do it. And then train from that and then ask your ancestors for help. In my book, I call it the epigenetic healing. And there is also a lot of work within a child. Not because you have to be a child again, but because everything you have experienced when you were a child is within your nervous system, in your body, in your bones, in your organs. And if it wasn't good learnings and you were in surroundings that you just adapted to like, and it wasn't something that were, you know, strengthen your soul, you and your life, but maybe more inhibiting you, then it's time to do something about it. Because you're not meant here to be inhibited. You are meant here to do good, to follow your soul and really be a part of a big divine healing process creating life. That's why we're here.
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So the, the concept of ancestral trauma is something I've discussed on the show before, but I want to kind of dig into it a little bit because a lot of people, most people don't understand it, don't even know that it exists and that, you know, we don't think about it, especially in the west, we don't think about our ancestors. In the Latino culture, it's a little bit, a little bit more. In a Hawaiian culture, it's a little bit more. There's a lot of reverence for grandparents, great grandparents and so on. But generally speaking, most people don't think about what their great great grandfather did, you know, or where they came from or so on. And I've had actual experiences from my lineage. After I did my DNA test and found out exactly where my DNA came from, which completely lined up with what my grandparents were taught telling me, I was like, oh, that's the area of the world that I came from. And then when I went to that area of the world, I was, I was warned that certain things were going to happen and I didn't believe them. And from what I was told, I was like, you're gonna have to, you're gonna take on something that you're gonna have to, you're gonna carry the weight for your line and you're going to process it and you're going to release it, but it's going to be extremely painful. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. A friend of mine who's a psychic medium told me that when I was going to go on vacation and I, I forgot all about it because it was a couple months earlier when I got to that, that's that country in the same city that my great grandparents were. One of my great grandmother was born in. My God, it happened like this and all of a sudden, boom. And I was just like, what? I'm on vacation. Stop this. Why are you doing this? To me, it was pretty overwhelming. So I have first hand experience with ancestral trauma and dealing with it and processing it. And a lot of times we are given the, the, the mission to clear that. And it's something as simple as alcoholism running through a family and all of a sudden you stop it or abuse happening throughout. And then you say, nope, I'm Breaking the cycle, that. And then so our next generation doesn't have to deal with that. So can we dig in a little bit deeper into that and how to. We talked a little bit about how to clean it, but can you talk a little bit more about it and how it actually really affects us? Affects us.
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It has immense effect on us because it's in our genes, it's in our DNA. And, and that's why I love this background of biology, because the understanding that, okay, you have a lot of genes, you have a lot of DNA that you inherit from your father and from your mother, but it's older than them, our genes, some of that is also connected to, you know, a couple of million years ago. We have a lot of experience within our genes. And not all genesis, all genes are active or transcripted. So when you do this healing work with your ancestors, it's like they have an impact on your DNA. They had it because when they were living, they had the experiences that now are a part of the memory within your genes. So in that way, it's like a combination of you have the DNA that you have, and when your ancestors is in the other world or on the other world or in spirit world, they can come in and connect with the healing process because they have access to those responses that they were experiencing that time. If it was 200 years ago, 500 years ago, it doesn't matter because it's still active. If you have that trauma or that thought, it's still active because it hasn't stopped yet. So when they come in and start to heal the trauma, they are the only one that can. We cannot heal other people's trauma. Yes, you say you can break the cycle, but you cannot heal their trauma. And what happens is when you have a trauma and you have been transferred a trauma from your lineage, you start to repeat the trauma. So when they come and help you take their healing process seriously, because they can do. Because you are ready, they can access it. They are dead. They do not have a body. They cannot come to the genes before someone in the living lineage is ready. So you were ready there. And because you were ready to take that enormous process, they could come in and help you. They could start to heal. And in that way, the genes from it could be alcoholism. They started to say, okay, you don't have to have drinking problems because you're sensitive anymore. You don't have to have drinking problems because you cannot deal with your emotions now they can heal you, so you can start to deal with your emotion. The Power within your lineage was actually to be an empath that feel things very much. But now you also have the support from your lineage to help you to solve the problems, live with your empathy or your kind heart, your love. So in that way, it's a power that was locked down. It's a power within your DNA that was locked down with the trauma. And when the trauma is released, it's a potential that matches your soul. So in that way, you have the potential within your genes and in your soul at the same time. And your ancestors can come and release that. They can help you. You're not alone in that process. You have a big, big begging group that has all the power, and it's their trauma. So they can only solve it because you are physical and they need you to actually release it. And when it's released in you, it's released in the future generations, but it's also released in them. Many religions have this feeling of being reincarnated again. So imagine that your granddad has to reincarnate in a physical body to solve that trauma himself. But now you are here and you are ready to solve it, and he can come and help you. And next time he reincarnates, he doesn't have to solve it because he will be your grandson. So in that way, he can come back now without the trauma. So it's not only because you are ready, they are ready and they want to save somehow to help the lineage and you, but also to help themselves so that when they come next time, the soul can integrate much better with the body and the earth and the living, living world. Because when you have trauma, some part of you is not really living. It's like in freeze. So when you release trauma, you feel the warmth, you feel alive, you feel your sensory system is starting to really enjoy life instead of being afraid.
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So in that way, it's a transformative journey, not only for you, but also from your genes and from your ancestors. Because when you go from a trauma or fear into love, there is a big change within your DNA. Not the DNA, but the genes that are expressed are different. So if you have a legacy that says, okay, we are depressed in our family, we are so depressed, we are really depressed in our family. And then there will be this healing process, epigenetic healing process, then the reason for the depression is there is not serotonin enough. There is not the possibility because we have a lot of serotonin within our stomach area. The serotonin is what we get some entry antidepressant medicine. So when you actually start to release the tension and fear within your stomach that you are born into because of your DNA or your traumas from your family, when you release that, you start to get access your nervous system change from stress and alarm to peacefulness, parasympathetic responses. And then suddenly you get all the contact to your body. Your brain starts to have more oxygen, much more oxygen within your organs and your stomach and the serotonin from that part of your body start to come into the brain and you start to feel happy. So even though you had this pre encoded potential to be depressed, you also have the pre encoded potential to be happy. You just have to heal the trauma in that way. And that actually what your ancestors can help you with, transform yourself, transform your life and transform the legacy. And they help you. You're not alone. They are the right ones to do it because they experienced it, they started it and they are also the right one to stop it. But they help you and they need you to say yes and you had said yes and that's why you had this enormous process. And it's physical, it's, it's within our body, it's like it's such a physical thing, it's emotional, it's mental. Because everything is connected. So in that way it's a really, really. I have so great hopes for healing with ancestors that way because we can raise the level of enlightenment, awakening soul connected with earth and body so much more because we have all the other from the other side helping us. It's our soul is here to do good, it's actually here to do better than last time. And the same is for our ancestors. They are here to do good and they are waiting for our next time, but they are helping you to do better. So it will be easier for the next generation. And what's important by soul energy is that it's divine and it's life force. So when you have a person in a near death experience, the body is clinical dead, but when the soul enters the body again, it's alive. And think about it, when you are really alive and connected with your soul, this life force of divine energy will enter the realm of the physical world, the nature, and connect nature with the life force. Again. When we are going around half in drama and not really connected, it means that the earth, the nature is not getting the life force, divine life force that it needs actually to really live. And we don't either. So there is only one way for me, it's self healing, connecting with your soul and dealing with your traumas and also dealing with the potential you have. Your legacy has so much potential. We have so much potential in our soul. There's so much hope, so much power and it's time now.
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You just said it's time now. What do you believe humanity is rediscovering right now about its own consciousness and its own soul? Because there seems to be, I think everyone can clearly state that things are a little wonky right now in the world and every part of the world. So we are definitely going through something where before, you know, if, if I was going to ask you in the 80s or in the 70s, hey, what are you going to be doing next April? You'd have, you could probably give us a good idea. Now if I ask you what are you going to do in April? You're like, I have no idea.
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What the hell.
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So what is your thoughts?
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My thought is like, like, like a healing process, something we have to take care of that we didn't take care of. And it's our inner world again. When I was taught by, by the Hawaiian healer Sean Kiyahi, he also taught me about Hooponopono. And that means that we have to take a very deep responsibility for ourselves and our own actions and how we affect the surroundings. And in that context he taught me in another way than he has his own way. And he used God in that process. So he asked God for help for taking responsibility for himself and also releasing the tensions and the negative effect that he have had on others, but also asking for help for healing the, the conflict that may have been in the legacy or in the lineage between him and others and stuff like that. So when you do your own healing work, it also sends, sends a lot of healing energy or light out like rings in the water. So in that way it actually makes a big difference. But a part of the healing process. As you said yourself, it's nasty. It's not. It's a mess up. And I feel that the world is in a, in a breaking point with a lot of mess up and junk that has to be dealt with before much of the light can be more present. So it's a development of the basic human kinds consciousness to be more in contact with the divine and actually accept that we come from the same source and that we have to come away from this basic survival mode because it creates the same as every survival mode have done for millions of years. So it's, you know, it's power. It's. Yeah, all the walls that we have right now, something is not healed up. The basic part of accepting that we are divine creatures and that we don't have to fight each other in that way. And we have to be aware that right now we are healing all traumas. The problems right now in much a part of the world is actually also the Second World wars, trauma that's not really healed. And we cannot go to the next state of development without healing the trauma in ourselves and in the humankind. And I think that we are. I deeply feel that we are part of that process right now. And I deeply feel that the light and the love and human development will succeed in this process.
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As a psychic and intuitive, I'm assuming you've kind of tapped into where we're going and when we're. When this is. This process is going to. You know, obviously it's an ongoing process, but it seems to be intensifying. Yeah, every year since 2020, basically, it's been intensifying every single year. What is your feeling on when we are going to kind of go over the hump a bit and start to kind of clear some. I mean, because there's a lot of stuff going on.
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My feeling is actually some years yet.
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Sure.
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So. So. So I have a feeling of this, except of really knowing how important our own process is for the big process and what we as one person can do and also in that way have to hope for others. I feel that we will be over the bump around five to six years. So that's some years, but it's not that long in humankind's story history. But what I really feel is that in Denmark we have a lot of kids and youngsters that are not feeling good and we have a lot of the old way of doing things, school and kindergartens and stuff like that. And we haven't created a society where. Where people actually are feeling good. And I don't think it's only in Denmark. It's a large part of the world where. Where it's not possible actually to be happy and have a nice good life and instead of surviving, start to develop things that are good. Use your creativity, use your happiness, use your caring and loving. Express yourself from your soul and not from your patterns. So I deeply feel that we have to develop our society, our cultures, the way we are living in the world.
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And that way we have to go back to some of the old things. Of being connected with nature, but not in. Like we should go totally back. We have this knowledge behind us from science, from what we know from the body, and also what we know from the spiritual realm. So it's like opening up to a new way of seeing life, being in life. But we have to do that because the young people now are coming with something much more intense. They have psychic abilities, like in birth, present all of them. And we have to have a society that helps them to express and develop those human potentials that we have that they have. And in that way, it's going to be really interesting. And I really deeply feel that the love from a parent to a child and from our legacy or lineage to us will make a difference and the connection to Mother Earth. The earth wants to live. The nature wants to live, we want to live. And we just have to do it in a little way that we are used to. And it doesn't matter because the way we are used to, I'm not a really good one.
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Fair enough. Fair enough. Now, if someone is listening right now that feels abilities coming on or stirring within them, or they are awakening in some way to the spirit realm, to their own abilities, to healing, to anything that's. That we've discussed here. What is the most important first step that they should take?
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If they're really alone with it, I would recommend them to talk to someone that works with it, that can help them to understand it. Just few talks, maybe to really accept that that's how they. That's real for them. And I could also really much recommend them just the healing meditations that I have on my homepage, because they are. I used them in the start of my development. So the pillar of light and the guardian angel were some of the things I used first before I was trained. And it helped me very much. And the bugger exercise I developed later on when I really started to sense how much I was picking up from other people all day long. And that's why I couldn't feel myself and why I was nervous and why I was fearsome and why I was tired all the time was because I didn't have properly contact to myself and was filled by other people's stuff. So that one would be very good as well. Because if you have psychic abilities, you have the abilities to sense both the living and the dead. And in that way you are easily overwhelmed by both. So when you start to do those simple things, I also have one called control of your sensory system, where I train people. Also one of the free healing Meditations where I help people to take their sensorial system back to sense themselves instead of sensing everything around them. And there's also a little grounding exercise. All of those things are important because when you start to connect with your soul instead of your mind and you connect with the spirit world, then they can help you. Much of my training has come from the contact with the spirit world that have wanted to train me and support me. And that's a very good way for a first step somehow to get the contact and to realize that it's real and it's good. But you have to be aware. You should have respect for it. You shouldn't just open up and say, is anybody there? Because they are. So when you work with the spirit world, connect with the pillar of light where the loving loved ones, angels, God are connected instead of, you know, just opening up a little fearful. When you open up and are fearful again, remember what your sense then will probably be fearful. Even though it could be a nice grandma, you will look at her and say, oh no, it's your grandma. So. So you have to first be calm with yourself, have the training and be in contact with the pillar of light or this dimension where the spirit world can help you. And then you can start to open up even more. So. So that was just a simple way.
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I would say, Marsha, where can people find out more about you, your amazing work and pick up a copy of your book, your soul, your life?
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Of course, the book is everywhere, it's worldwide. So in bookstores, online bookstores. I would be in LA in February for the Consciousness Expo Expo in la. So I would be there and I would be talking about inner child work. And I have a workshop as well with the epigenetic healing Ancestor. Ancestor healing as well. Book signings. So in that I will be there on my homepage, marcia.com you will.
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And how do you spell? How do you. And how do you spell Marsha? Because there's a difference.
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Yes, I. It's here. So M A R set CIA Got it.
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So just want. It's. I want to make sure they get to. I just want to make sure they get to.
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So. So they are the healing, the free healing meditations. And if you want to go even further with healing meditations with ancestors, I have a healing meditation with, you know, your mother's lineage, your father lineage, some with archangels and how to heal trauma stuck in your system. I have different healing meditation that you can listen to that will help you to get in contact with the healing energy and the self healing. So that's a possibility. I will make courses later on online and I'm also planning from next year to have from January and February to have what I call healing to the day. Where I am in Denmark, in Denmark I have this community where I have a life guide and healing meditation four days a week which help people to have a spiritual practice connected with the healing energy. And we are together on a. Yeah, a live thing where I guide a healing meditation just for the day, but also to help people with the development they are in both their inner world and the outer world at the same time. And I will make that in English as well. So. So it will be available in January or February and, and go on that way. So. All right. So yeah, there's a lot of possibilities for self healing and development and contact with spirit world if, if you look at my homepage or my Facebook media, stuff like that.
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Marcia, it has been a pleasure talking to you. Thank you so much for, for being here and sharing your story with us. And I hope this helps others who are listening on their journey. And I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken the planet. So thank you again, my dear.
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Thank you very, very much and the same to you. Likewise.
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Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode@nextlevelsoul.com 659 and if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV. Until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.
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Sam.