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Speaking and Releasing Stranded Spirits to The Other Side with Laura Warren
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What if ghosts aren’t what we think they are? Psychic medium Laura Warren has spent years communicating with spirits, helping earthbound energies move on, and uncovering the hidden emotional stories that keep some souls tied to our world. From...
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Alex Ferrari
Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level Soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the Next level, explore Next Level Soul tv. Our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your Consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of of Next Level Soul, its host or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome to the show Laura Warren. How are you doing, Laura?
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Laura Warren
I am amazing, Alex. So happy to be here.
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Alex Ferrari
Thank you so much for coming on the show. The way you got on is easily one of the most unique ways anyone's ever gotten on the show before because we reached out to you to be on the show and that doesn't happen very often, but it does happen every once in a while. But when you got the email, you actually thought it was spam, right?
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Laura Warren
I did. I did. I opened the email and I looked at my wife and I said, this can't be. This is spam. This isn't right. It was just like these things that pop into your awareness and I really do trust that things happen at the right time and the right people come into your life. But I looked at the email and I had to read it three times.
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Alex Ferrari
Well, yeah, we reached out to you because I discovered you through a little show called Sightseers, which is a new show that we have on Next Level Soul tv. And how, how that show even got on my radar is, is a mystery. But I think I have an idea of how that show was brought into my awareness by the other guest that's going to be on the show as well with you in a little bit. Because there's really no reason why this show should have even been on my, my radar. It's a one season show about a psychic media, a blind psychic medium who goes to haunted houses and does readings and, and clears things and has a, a sidek yourself on as well. It's a Canadian show. It just didn't, it should have not have ever been on my radar, but it was. And the thing I love the most about it is you also have a skeptic following you and then you have a believer following you who, you know, house hunt or a haunted house hunters, I guess it is, or ghost hunters. And also a skeptic who doesn't believe in anything is literally they're trying to disprove what you guys are doing. So it's a fascinating, fascinating show. So after I discovered the show, I went on this archaeological hunt to find it, get the rights to it, get the distributor, all that stuff. And when we finally locked in the Rights for Next Level Soul tv. I told my wife, I'm like, I gotta get Laura on the show. Because I couldn't find anything about Mark Jolly. I couldn't get any contact information, anything else. And Mark is the blind psychic in the show. And I'd never really seen that before. Blind psychic medium who goes around doing work and so on. But then you inform me that Mark has passed since the recording of that first season.
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Laura Warren
Yes. So his last name was Jolly. Mark Jolly. Yes. There it is. Yep. And he. We did. We filmed the first season. And because we filmed 2020 and we're in the middle of COVID there was a lot of things that didn't happen in 2021, and I think we would. That we were planning, like gearing up to. But 2021, we did not film. And then by 2022, he had developed lung cancer. And Mark was so determined to do this show that he was ready to do it anyway. Even though he wasn't feeling well, he was telling us that he could do it. It was okay, you know, but I think the cancer just advanced so quickly. And I really have to say about Sightseers, it's. It was. It was such an amazing group effort. So many people involved in that show made a beautiful show. And it's just the way it happened. It wasn't a show that that network normally does, so it wasn't as promoted. I found when it came out, a lot of people didn't know about it, but anybody that watches it, I still get emails from viewers, obviously, and.
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Laura Warren
So Mark was like the inspiration. He was really the inspiration for the show. And the creators found him and really wanted somebody to work with him that could kind of guide. Because there's challenges like walking in haunted houses that the floors are uneven and there's like, you know, things you can bump into. And then, of course, you need somebody to talk about, you know, where are we? What does it look like? You know, what kind of era is this house built in? You know, all these things. And so the creators of the show, I had met them years ago and I had done readings on them and they knew me and they had worked with me before on other projects. So they pulled me in and it's. Me and Mark did not know each other before the show. And it was just such an easy kind of connection because we were both thinking like we were both along the same lines Feeling the same things all the time, to the point at first I was like. Like he's reading my mind. Like he's reading. But we had this ability to kind of bounce things back and forth and build on that, to really get in and figure out what was going on in some of these situations. So pretty. It was pretty amazing to me.
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Alex Ferrari
What I found also very fascinating is that, you know, being a psychic medium is a very solitary existence, meaning that you do your own thing. You generally don't team up with other psychic mediums to do work. It does happen every once in a while, but it's not something that happens all the time. So that was one of the reasons I wanted to kind of have you on the show as well, is to. To discuss how was it like working with another psychic medium? Because everyone's gifts is very different. Everyone does these things in a very different way. So how was it working with. With Mark, as. As, you know, with cameras on you and all that kind of stuff, that kind of pressure. What was that like? And the other thing was that Mark was blind, you know, and it's very different point of view on everything. You have. You have reference points of what's going on. He literally is going in blind and just doing psychic readings and reading, feeling the room in a way that most psychic mediums at least have their eyes to feel. You get some cues of what's going on sometimes. But his was very different experience. So what was that like?
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Laura Warren
Like, he's. So it was very authentic when he gave messages, because you can imagine that, like you said, he wasn't. He wasn't seeing things. So mediums often gather sort of like their own personal catalog of symbols and images and. And smells and tastes and things. And he had to rely on all his other senses because sight just wasn't going to be reliable for him. And so that's how it. It actually is quite amazing when two psychics can work together, because it's almost like in his case, he was authentically feeling these visions because he would get a lot of symbols, too, a lot of like. And where they come from, who knows? But all these images and things that he would get, and then we would talk, and I could tell that what was coming through for me was very similar. So there's a saying that I've had since the beginning of. I. Since the beginning of doing mediumship, that the truth is always similar. And that is the thing with him was. So. It was so amazing to collaborate, to have that synergy and that energy so that we could Kind of do the work together. And that's kind of where. Where I came from the show, like, what came from it after was this feeling like we do need. All lightworkers need to unite. We have to give it over our, you know, our differences and kind of come together and unite and work together in this time. And I learned a lot through Mark, and I'm gonna say it wasn't always easy because he was very set in his ways, and we had to really kind of get into a groove with each other and have an understanding. And like I said, I had. I was just introduced to him the night. The night before we did the demo. So, you know, we. But we did. You know, he. I know that he really respected what I did. And the funny thing was, I got a call from his daughter after he passed, and she said, dad said the only one he wants me to have a reading from is you.
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Alex Ferrari
Oh, that's. That's so sweet. You know, one thing I've always wanted to ask, and I don't think I've ever asked a psychic medium this on the show before, but I understand when you're doing a reading, you know, let's say grandma's in the room. Like, you're doing a reading with me. Like, oh, yeah, grandma's in the room. Like, you don't know that person. You're kind of just trying to feel out what's happening and what they're trying to say to you. But what is it like connecting to someone who you knew, who you worked with, who you did things with on the other side, like you did with Mark? Because now Mark is also in the room with us and also giving his energy to this conversation. So when you first started to connect with Mark, what was that like?
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Laura Warren
Yeah, I brought him in today because I thought, you know, I know he would want to do this. This would really, like, be very exciting for him. So, yeah, I definitely. I brought him in today. I said, you. You're part of this. Like, you got to come in and help me. So. Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Laura Warren
Well, with Mark, it's actually not, it's not hard to connect with him. We although like, you know, we work together, colleagues, there's not a lot of intense like emotions like you would have more intense emotions with like a loved one, a family member. And I've experienced that too where I've lost a family member. And actually I'm writing a book about that because I lost a baby late in a pregnancy and the baby connected with me but the connection was so difficult and I'm a medium. I'm thinking, okay, yes, this is terribly sad. I'm going to lose this baby, but I'll be able to talk to them still. And it just didn't work for me. And I was really frustrated until I figured out what happened. And it was, you know, emotions are energy and they can be quite powerful. And the emotion that I had around his passing needed to be released so I could have a connection with him. And so it's taken me years to figure this out, but I finally got to the place where I realized what I had to do. And I do have a good connection with my son now that I lost. As far as Mark, he would, he loves us. So he's going to come anytime. He's going to be right there. You know, he wants to talk. So, you know, he's a hand there, He's a Hand. He's a hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His sense of humor is definitely not. Not mine, but he is.
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Alex Ferrari
You know, I'll be honest with you. There is a beautiful sincerity to Mark on the show and to both of you, actually, of what you're trying to really do, trying to help people understand what we're doing here on this earth. But before we get going down that road, I wanted to take it back a little bit, and I wanted you to tell me, at what moment in your journey did you realize that your psychic abilities were not something that you would suppress but actually celebrate? Because so many psychics out there, you know, just constantly are suppressing what they do because they're afraid of, you know, what people would say, what their family would say, being ousted from the community, so on and so forth. So how did. When did you know?
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Laura Warren
I did a lot of that blocking. I blocked my ability for many, many years. And then when I was pregnant with my first child, it was like I was open to the spirit world. The door was open, and I couldn't shut it, so I couldn't block what was happening. And there was so much coming through at that time that it was kind of overwhelming me. And this. This went on for quite a while. You know, I was trying to manage it, and I actually. I was a school teacher at the time, so I'm trying to teach, look after the baby and deal with all this paranormal stuff that's happening in my house. You know, slamming doors and footstep and voices on the baby monitor.
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Alex Ferrari
Well, you essentially were being haunted at this point.
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Laura Warren
Well, what I've learned since then is that mediums have. Anybody that can communicate with the spirit world has a slightly different vibration that spirit knows and can see. So what was happening was that lighthouse effect. They were all drawn to me, and I didn't know what to do about it. I didn't know what was happening. I didn't like it. I didn't want it, you know, and one day, I was really desperate, and I just asked my. I just asked spirit. I just kind of yelled out loud and said, what am I supposed to. Supposed to do with all this? And what can't you, like, make it stop? And, like, I just want to live my life. And the first. For the first time, I heard a voice I recognized, and it was my great grandmother. And at that time, I didn't have. I didn't have a lot of family and spirit, but my great grandmother, I knew up until I was four or five years old, she passed around that time. So I Heard her voice and she said, laura, if you do not accept this part of you, you will always feel like something is missing and you will never stop searching. Oof. So, yeah, so I. I didn't like that answer, you know, at the time. But what I've learned through all of this is that it's true. You do have to accept who you came here to be and allow it to just flow. All the power is in the flow. It's all in the place of allowing.
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Alex Ferrari
So when did you start feeling this? When did you start, like, understanding that, oh, I have a different ability? Like, do you see? Did I see dead. Did you see dead people? Did you hear it? Like, it. It. It comes and go. It comes in in different ways for different people all the time. So when did you know?
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Laura Warren
You know, I didn't realize that my story. My story is kind of stereotypical, like, because a lot of mediums have this kind of similar story. But I have had. I had a severe illness when I was nine. Just, like, a really high fever. I had hallucinations and things. And when I got better, I could hear. The best way I can describe it is, like, frequency. Like, I could. Radio station, kind of out of tune. So you can hear voices, but you can't really hear what they're saying. And I'm nine, so I. I don't know what this is. You know, it's scary. I didn't want to tell anybody. It's embarrassing, you know, but it just was very persistent. Until one day I felt something. I felt an emotion with what I was hearing. And I learned that if I listen to the emotion, then I could figure out what the voices were trying to tell me. And as soon as I figured out the. It was sort of like a key. As soon as I figured it out, the voices stopped. So then I was just in a place of feeling. And that deep feeling was difficult for a kid. And my mom was frustrated because often I would just cry and have these, like, crying fits. And she didn't. She would say, what's wrong? Like, what can we. What. What can I do? You know? And I didn't even know. I didn't know. But usually it was. I had come in contact with somebody who was unwell or sick or somebody unhappy, and I absorbed it. I didn't. I didn't know I was doing that. So this has evolved over time, and there's been lots of kind of learning, and I feel like I'm still learning all the time. I don't feel like we really ever stop. You Know, it's just. It's a continuous evolvement or unfoldment of your path.
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Alex Ferrari
When did you decide to finally kind of come out of the closet, if you will?
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Laura Warren
I'm going to tell you something. So coming out of the psychic closet was a lot harder than coming out of the gay closet. I will say that I don't know why that is, but that. That's sort of what happened. So when I was. I had met another teacher who was a lot like me. She was talking to Spirit, and she was feeling things about people. And we had this idea, kind of like a side hustle. We were going to do readings together. And I just. I don't know how. It was really hard because I remember telling people and I remember asking, of course, who do you ask when you're practicing? You ask family and friends if they want readings because you're, you know, you don't. You're not ready to put yourself out there yet. That was harder than actually reading people that I didn't know. But I didn't know that at the time. I just thought, I need practice. So I started telling people. And there were some people that were a little weird about it, and some people that were accepting. But I just started reading Family and Friends like crazy. Anybody that wanted reading. And then realized later that I actually did the hard thing first. Maybe I should have just went public, read the public, and then went back to family. But. But it all worked out okay in the end. It took people, some people in my family many years to kind of see and accept and understand what I was doing. But it didn't matter. It made me so happy. It made me so happy. I knew that it was the right thing to do.
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Alex Ferrari
So your ability is that you hear the other side, but do you hear it, like, audibly in, like, our world? Are you hearing it in your mind? Like, Mark's in the room right now? So how is that situation working right now?
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Laura Warren
That is mostly it's in the mind. I have heard Spirit with my physical ear. Clairaudience is kind of interesting because everybody can experience the Claire's differently. And in my case, I do hear them physically on occasion. But most of the time it began as almost. Sometimes I would hear my own voice in my mind, but it would be information for the person I was reading. So I knew that it wasn't my voice, but that's how I heard it initially. But now it's kind of changed into I hear the tone. Like, I actually hear the tone in somebody's voice or I hear their accent or their language. Like if they speak a different language, I'll hear them speaking to me in the different language, but then I can feel what the message is. So it's kind of all happening in the energy field, I believe, but not necessarily using your physical eardrum.
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Alex Ferrari
So what do you mean that you feel the message? What does that mean exactly? So if someone on the other side is speaking Spanish or Swahili, which I assume you don't speak, how do you translate that to the client or to the person that you're doing a reading for?
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Laura Warren
It doesn't move through my my actual physical mind. It moves through my heart center. So it's the vibration.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Laura Warren
So the vibration of what's being said. I can hear the language and I can say to the person I know that your loved ones speaking a different language but this is what I, this is what they're saying to me because it's not about the, it's not about our, how our brain processes that information. It's about how the vibration makes me feel.
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Alex Ferrari
Interesting. It sounds. You know, what popped into my head is the near death experiencers I've spoken to that they say on the other side, everyone knows everything and you can communicate instantly, but there's no language. It's more of a vibration, more of a feeling, which is, is very interesting.
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Laura Warren
Yeah, I, I don't know. This is the other part of it that's kind of funny to me is I've had two concussions in my life. And after each concussion there was more, there was more feeling, there's more ability, there's more connectedness.
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Alex Ferrari
So what you're saying is don't get a concussion if you want to be a psychic medium. Yeah.
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Laura Warren
Right.
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Alex Ferrari
You just don't, don't do that. Which this is really interesting because, you know, as you, as you had more concussions, you kind of like stripped away little parts of your brain a bit. So it kind of like you're kind of removing the veil or the weight that you usually have with having a fully functioning or fully operational brain. When you have concussions, the little parts of it kind of, kind of go offline a little bit. Which makes it a little easier for you to connect. Correct.
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Laura Warren
It's freedom. Freedom of the energy to flow and to connect with me in any way it needs to. And in the beginning, this always felt like I was just, it was weird. People would ask me, well, what do you do? And I was like, well, it's a little bit of everything. So it's whatever the person needs. So not everybody needs a mediumship reading. Some people need other things. And so I'm open to various types of communication from spirit, and then I'm open to whatever's in the highest good for the person I'm reading. And so I do, you know, I use the title psychic medium because there's really nothing. I couldn't find anything else to explain it in a way that people would understand what I'm doing. The feeling for me is that, that, you know. No, absolutely. Do not go out and have a head injury because you, you will, you, you will struggle.
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Laura Warren
That is not the key.
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Laura Warren
A lot of NFL players are not psychics. Yeah. I don't know if spirit thought that I was too stubborn to just do this on my own or what? But now I teach people to do this. I teach mediums to connect with spirit for themselves. And I know it's possible without getting a head injury, so please don't do that. But there is something that happens. We can say it's damage, but we also know that nothing happens that isn't supposed to happen. And so what has happened, it removed some barriers for me, some pretty strong barriers within me that needed to be. They needed to be removed so I could continue my work. You.
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Alex Ferrari
You need to stop playing rugby is your thing. I mean, I don't know how you got your two concussions. I'm sure they're very interesting stories for another day, but you just please protect yourself. So you've done, at this point, hundreds, if not thousands of readings throughout your career. What is the one thing that people get wrong about or misunderstand about connecting to loved ones?
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Laura Warren
On the other side, I really feel like people, they're expecting a full communication with their loved one, as if their loved one was still alive. So they're expecting their loved one to walk into the room and have a conversation with them. And there's a few things that, you know, I think people don't realize that spirit doesn't waste. They don't waste energy. You know, they don't waste words. So they're not going to come in and talk about, you know, the weather and, you know, did you have a cup of tea today? Or, you know, like, they. They don't waste energy, so they want to get right to the point. And so they will deliver a message, a sign, something through energy. And there's. There is a specific kind of energy language. And when you're attuned to pick up on those kind of, I'll say triggers, the energy kind of tidbits, the psychic impressions, you start to see that this works through frequency and vibration. So it's not your loved one talking to you. But they can. If, even if you're not a medium, like, you're just a person that wants to connect with your loved one. Sometimes your loved one will trigger a memory. So you might hear something in your head. You might be asking a question, saying, oh, dad, like, I don't know how to fix this. I don't know how to fix my front door step. And then your dad might trigger a memory, might trigger a memory of him, like using a certain tool on the house or something, or maybe he was showing you something. And so you'll. You'll have a memory triggered, or you'll have A catchphrase that they always used to say, kind of triggered because they can't actually speak to you like people do anymore. They have to use what you know, they have to use your awareness, and they have to communicate through feeling.
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Alex Ferrari
Would they do these things within a dream? And possibly also a deep meditation?
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Laura Warren
So dreams are a little different because we are in an altered state. So when we're in an altered state and there is an opening for spirit to come through, they will come into dreams. Often what I hear from other people and what I've experienced is sometimes they can still be a little cryptic, but you know, the person is there. You know, you see them, you feel them. And often in the dream, people have no awareness that their loved one has already died. You know, they don't have that awareness. They just think, oh, we're, you know, having a visit. And it typically. What it's. What it seems like for most people is there's always like a connection, connection of love, physical touch, a feeling, and then also some kind of message, and then that's it. They're very. They can be very fleeting. Now I have talked to one of my clients is a mom who lost her son due to a drug overdose. And it was a terrible, terrible thing. And he was young and he had been in rehab. He was sober, but had taken prescription drugs by accident. So it wasn't something like he was trying to do. So she asked him to come into a dream, and they had a beautiful experience together and conversation. And she said what she really took away from it is that he is still here. He's still here with her. And she said when he kissed her on the cheek, she woke up and still felt like the kiss on her cheek. And so those are like some of the symbols and signs that we get from spirit in a dream. We know, we feel physically, we feel their hug, we feel their love, like, go right through us and stay with us. And they absolutely can do that. And I've just found that the dream state is a much clearer space also, because people put a lot of pressure on themselves. Sometimes this takes a long time to happen, you know, So I think it's about telling your loved one, you. You would like to have them come into a dream and then giving them the space to do it, rather than you continuously pushing for it. I think we just have to allow it to happen when it's possible.
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Alex Ferrari
I imagine that with all the readings you've had over your career that you've been surprised by spirit at one point or another. Do you have Any stories you'd like to share about that?
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Laura Warren
Okay, well, I'll share this one because it's connected to Sightseers. It was interesting when I took Sightseers because I have a great interest in the paranormal, but it's not my complete work. So I excited to do it, but didn't know what was really going to happen. And I was told by Spirit that I would have other purposes so I would be filming a TV show. But there was always going to be a story or work for me to do behind the show. So behind the story of the show. So before our first episode, I'm trying to sleep. I say trying because my wife is intuitive too. And she said, laura, I don't know what's going on, but that feels like there's Spirit lined up to talk to you. So they're like lining up down the street, waiting. So the night before the show, I have a dream. And it was a native man. And native meaning like I'm talking before, right around the time probably Europeans were coming to Nova Scotia. So he was from the area where we were going to film. But he kept pushing a bloody stump in my face. So he, his hand had been cut off and he kept pushing like his arm in my face. And it was really weird because wasn't bleeding, but it was, you know, like you could see the hand had been cut off and it was, there was blood but not actively bleeding. And I didn't know what he wanted. He just kept saying like, making me feel like, this is urgent, you have to do something for me. When we get to the location immediately I walk in the door and it was Queens County Museum. And I saw the curator kind of walking by. She was on her way to be interviewed and I got to say hi to her. But I said like blurted it out. I was just like, do you have an indigenous connection? And her face went pale, like just right down. And she, she kind of went, uh huh. But then went in the other room and I was just like, okay. So, you know, interesting. I had to wait.
- [34:47]
Alex Ferrari
Nice job, Laura.
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Laura Warren
Nice job. Laura scared her. You screwed up.
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Alex Ferrari
You screwed up that interview. Okay?
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Laura Warren
Yeah, right. She was really messed up. So then when she was free, we sat down and I said, a native man came to me and he showed me a bloody stump and he was wearing hides and furs like you, like you would maybe picture an indigenous person before the Europeans came. And he was, he was adamant that I talk to you. And now that he's coming through, I feel like he wants to say thank you. He keeps saying thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Alex Ferrari
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And now back to the show.
- [37:01]
Laura Warren
She was part of the Historical Society and that morning she had sent a letter to the head of the Historical Society to say that this man was the first man to be buried in Liverpool. So he was the very first man. He had died as the Europeans were starting to settle. He had died in the town, away from his family. Instead of taking his whole body into the forest and try to find his family, they cut off his hand. They took it to the family and they said, can we please bury him in the cemetery? He'll be the first one buried there. So his legacy was this. That was all that was left. But he wanted to say thank you to Linda because she had fought for him. She had fought for him and said he is the first one in the cemetery and he continued to share a few other things. But that was not meant to be Part of Sightseers, but just kind of spiritual, kind of just started showing up, you know, So I was surprised with that one because I didn't. I didn't understand any of it at the time. I'm like, this native man, bloody stump. I don't know. I'm just gonna go with it. But that's what it was. She had only that warning, sent the letter off to say, no, you're wrong. This is the first one buried. First person buried in the cemetery.
- [38:22]
Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. You know, and that. That sparks me.
- [38:25]
Laura Warren
Sparks.
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Alex Ferrari
Another question. Another question I have. You know, you mentioned the man with a bloody stump, right? That man is that soul or his oversoul is representing himself as a spark of the oversoul of the grand soul, as a spark of a lifetime. But arguably, why is the soul doing that, the oversoul doing that? Because that man or that soul has already experienced that lifetime. Why are they hanging around here? You know, if you. If you're walking down a field and you see a Viking who died There, you know, 1500 years ago, why is that a thing? Why shouldn't that soul already moved on already and not be dealing, you know, hanging out here? You know, and I know that's like all. All lives are happening at the exact same time, and there is no time. There's no, you know, past lives, future lives, none of that stuff. But let's not get into that right now, because that make everyone's head hurt. But why is this oversold still representing itself in that spark of itself in that lifetime, in this time when we're. We're not connected to it at all? We're talking about hundreds of years later, sometimes if not thousands, you know, when they represent themselves like that, Is it more for that soul or is it for the soul that you're. Or for the lady that you're reading for that needs to see that person or that soul or that experience at that time for their growth or who's it for?
- [39:55]
Laura Warren
Good question. I. I feel like it's for everyone. I. Because I. For me, that really, to start off the show that way, that helped me feel like, okay, I do have a greater purpose. Like, yes, we're going to film these hauntings, but there's a greater purpose here. And. And I felt called, you know, to do that for Linda. She needed that confirmation that what she was doing with the Historical Society was important work. Work. And so she needed that. And probably writing the letter probably kind of sparked. You know, it's a ripple effect owed into the universe. Owed into the energy field. And it came back to him. It came back to that man and when he was in that life. And something had to come forward. I believe in a lot of. In indigenous culture, like, there's a lot of kind of sharing, but then giving back. It's sort of like the flow of life. And there was some reason why he felt compelled to thank her. But I. I do believe it was so that she knew that she was doing important work. She knew that some of the other things that she had thought about life were confirmed. And she needed that. She needed that boost in confidence. But for him, I believe it was kind of like there was something about what was happening with him that he needed to actually release. Like, he needed to actually let go of. And so there was a lot of. I. And you know, often, often when I do readings, I try to stay in the best energy possible. But I did, I did feel a lot of anger within him. And maybe that anger had to be released. Maybe that was something that he had to actually say. Thank you for recognizing me. Now I can rest.
- [41:48]
Alex Ferrari
Okay, so I'm going to bring in like, Abraham Lincoln. Right. So as a soul, his oversoul. You know, obviously Abe has lived many lives before, quote, unquote, and many lives after. But, you know, a lot of people in this time period will maybe call them in a seance or something like that, will call upon Abe for guidance or questions. Why is that oversold? Why is that soul presenting itself as, as, as Abe, when it could be anybody? Like, what's the point of it? Does that any of this make sense?
- [42:17]
Laura Warren
Yeah. So I look at it like the oversoul sometimes. I say the higher self. So the higher self is like the complete picture of us. And we can think about those fragments, those soul fragments and different lives. If you think about what it looks like when you look through a kaleidoscope, and there's all these different parts, but they do all fit together and they make this, like, beautiful pattern. And. And so the higher self is our complete energy, our complete soul experience. And however, they need to move forward. Because souls are all about expansion. Souls are about evolvement. And we are mirroring the universe. So the universe is ever expanding, and so are we. We are part of that. And in order to continue to expand, we need to let go of lower frequency energy. So a lot of times these soul will say soul fragments. Like, you know, your grandmother will come forward and she may talk to you because it's. It's helping you and it's helping her. And that Energy is much better than the strife and the challenge and the struggle that people face or that souls have experienced. So it's sort of like moving into the next energy, into the next phase and soul evolvement and expansion happens when we can release all that lower frequency energy. And so we call it healing. You know, we say this is healing a wound, and this is healing, you know, how. Healing people and making them feel better. But really what you're doing is you're releasing the old experiences that hold people back, and you're allowing them to move forward in a better energy. And that's. I know it's kind of a simple way to say it, but that really is what's happening all the time. It's like we're all alchemists, and we're just moving from that kind of lower base energy to the higher base energy when we choose a spiritual path path and when we choose involvement. And so I. I feel like sometimes the higher self of somebody comes forward for me, and they will show me like I had this life, this life, this life, but that all that might not matter to the person that I'm reading. They might just want to talk to their grandmother. So that's why they come in that form, you know, because that's. That is what you relate to. And they are always here for us. They are here for us to create that light, for us to light the path and to help us move forward.
- [44:44]
Alex Ferrari
Okay, now, so I want to kind of dive into your work at Sightseeing Sightseers, because it was just a fascinating thing. You know, I've had many people on the show. We've had conversations about hauntings and haunted houses and haunting places and things like that. And I've spoken to mediums who've done that work, but I've never had someone on the show who I've watched watch them do the haunting, going into a haunted house and clearing it or something like that.
- [45:07]
Laura Warren
But.
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Alex Ferrari
But my question is, what. What causes a ghost? Why are they here? Why are, you know, are these souls either lost or don't even know that they've passed on? Like that great movie called the Others with Nicole Kim. And when they. They were scared that they were being haunted, but they were actually the ghosts, people just moved into their house and. And they thought those people were the ghost, but they were actually dead already, you know, or something like ghost. Sorry, guys, I'm on spoiler alert. But you know, when Patrick Sway dies, you know, he decides. He sees the light, but he. He decides to stay because he's confused. He doesn't know what's going on. And he's also worried about his his love, Demi Moore. So why is there a why do souls get get stuck in in this? Why don't they just go to the light?
- [45:59]
Laura Warren
That's a lot. But this is a really cool area of thought because really there's so many things I could, I could go in so many directions. First of all, everything that we can think about exists in some energy form. So Hollywood may take some really true, authentic elements and kind of exaggerate them for entertainment, but if you go down to the base of the event, a lot of those events can happen. Maybe not to that scale, but they absolutely can happen. And I see what has happened is if you don't have a perception of something, you can't actually experience it. So when souls are taken out of a life very quickly or in a tragic way.
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Alex Ferrari
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And now back to the show.
- [48:33]
Laura Warren
I believe sometimes there's a little bit of. There's a. I don't want to say there's no mistakes in the universe, but I feel like there's a little bit of a mismatch of energy and they. They can stay in the awareness that they knew instead of moving on to the next awareness. So I kind of explained this in the way, like, I would love to go to India someday, but I've never been, and I've never been to the Taj Mahal. So spirit would never try to tell me what it smells like or, you know, what it feels like to be there, because I don't have that perception. So think about spirit. When they are taken from their physical body, especially in a dramatic fashion, or if they have things that are really tying them to their physical life, then they don't often have the perception that they can move forward. So I know some mediums actually don't believe in ghosts at all, because the idea is that the universe protects all spirits. All spirits are good. No one's earthbound, no one's stuck. But my experience is that they are not necessarily stuck. They just haven't been given the new awareness and everything is energy. So if they don't have the awareness, they can't move into or progress into the next energy. And if you go and you, like, read about some of the, like, the original spiritualist mediums, when they are crossing over spirit, they're like. They're tough, you know, they're to the point, but they're like, why are you not progressing? Like, what's holding you back? And sometimes it is merely just the awareness that they can move forward. But if you watch the episode about Halifax Club where I connected with the spirit that was there, the reason why she was held back is because she was so upset that people had the wrong impression of what happened to her. People had the wrong idea, and so they had this idea that she was a prostitute or lady of the night, and she. She slept with somebody. He had a heart attack. The police overreacted and actually threw her out a window. That was the. The story.
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Alex Ferrari
That's intense. That's intense.
- [50:45]
Laura Warren
Intense, yeah. So when I connected with her, she was very, very upset that people had thought that because what actually happened to her was a noble man, a rich man came into her small community, saw her and promised her a better life. Took her back to Halifax, put her in the Halifax Club. But what ended up happening was then he kept sending men to her. So she Thought she was going to marry this rich man and he was going to make her life and everything, and it didn't happen. And so when she was kind of like pushing back and then this older gentleman, what the story was, was that maybe he had a heart attack or something, and then the police blamed his death on her and they, they, they did that to her as an example, like, you know, don't step out of line kind of thing. So she was very upset. So in order for me to help her cross over, I had to show her the possibilities. So I, I asked my guides to show her the better energy, you know, what we call the light, to show her that high, high frequency energy and to show her what it looks like and show her that it's okay. And then once I was able to share some of her story, she felt more settled with that and she left. But that particular episode, it was difficult because there's many energies in the Halifax Club and many stories and many strange passings, we'll say. But she just needed her space. She needed her space to be able to tell her story the way it actually was.
- [52:26]
Alex Ferrari
But Laura, like, on a spiritual standpoint, why is that soul still hanging around? Why is that spark of the oversoul still hanging around in that suit, in that character? Like, what is the spiritual purpose of that? What is the evolutionary purpose of a soul hanging out, not to use a Catholic term, but like in a purgatory or earthbound, to stay here and just wait for someone like you to walk in, you know, 100 years from now to tell their story? Like, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because, like, in 100 years, nobody's going to remember. Most of, most people won't remember who you and I were in a thousand years, will be completely forgotten. In 10,000 years or 100,000 years, no one will even know what the countries we were in, what the planet looked like, anything. So what is the point of, of, of a soul being kind of stuck, earthbound like that?
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Laura Warren
Oh, it's. There's so many different scenarios, but I would say that a lot of the time they don't have time like we do. So they don't. So hundreds of years could pass. It doesn't feel like that to them. And they also, they have, they have a perception of what they are, and sometimes they don't realize they have passed. Sometimes they're kind of. I don't know how I can compare it to anything that we know. I guess if you've ever seen somebody sort of in a Catatonic state, you know, like they are in a sense kind of stuck in their own mind. And some of these energies, it's. I don't think that like you say the over soul, like the higher self is not stuck. This is energy of a fragment of a piece of that soul that has been trapped there by some event. So whether it be tragic or. Or what. And the. Because the higher self can move on and go do things and you know, there's more incarnations that come. It's not that this doesn't have to be resolved, it should be resolved, but time is not a thing that we can completely understand. In the spirit world. They work on divine timing, which is completely different. It just means it happens when it's supposed to happen. And there's no clock, you know, ticking. And so they don't actually realize how much time has passed. And sometimes they don't know that they have passed at all. In fact, the Hance Port house in Sightseers, there was a lady there in spirit who did not know she was. She had passed. And it is a very much like the others movie kind of situation where she didn't like the family that was living there there. She didn't like the way they did things. She did. She thought they were, you know, disorganized and they didn't have a good schedule and they slept in too late. And she was like, reminded me of like a puritan. Like she had like, she had like a bun and she had a black outfit on and she had like the white on the black hat and the whole thing. And she had a cross around her neck. And she was angry at them. She was like, what are you doing in my house? And I don't want you here. And you know, you're not supposed to be doing this and this. You're supposed to be up at 6am and break breakfast by 7. And we found out later that that was used to be a boarding house and just like traveling workers used to stay there and she used to run it. So she used to have everybody up and fed by seven and out the door by eight. And that was. She had like strict, you know, rules and she did not like the family that was living there because they're a modern family, you know, they're like, you know, all of us, we don't, we don't have those strict, you know, schedules and we don't, you know, we don't. We don't say grace at our meals and pray at 9:15am and all those things. So, you know, it's it's interesting because I can't. I don't think we can fully explain it from our human perspective, but what it always seems to be for me is that this fragment of energy is stuck in place. And there is a way to free that fragment of energy. And then when you do, it goes back to the collective soul in a better way. You know, it goes back in the more complete way. And that's, that's typically what I see. I see the, then I see the light from the complete soul as that fragment goes back to that oneness, that collective.
- [56:56]
Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. That's true. That makes a lot of sense to me. But I have to ask. So you know, when you walk into a haunted house, what is it like walking into an, you know what you're walking into? Because I know when you do readings, you know, there might be some aggressive energy that comes through or, or, you know, a loved one who's very angry. Like, I can't believe my sister said something like that or things like that. I get that. But when you're walking into a known haunted house, what is it like? Is there ever a moment where you're like, I'm not going downstairs. I'm not gonna stay sleeping alone in this room. At what point, you know, did you, like, is there ever a moment like that in the show? Like that you were just like, I'm not. You guys are crazy.
- [57:40]
Laura Warren
You know what? I'm not typically scared. I don't know why. I've always, I've been this way for a long time.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [59:31]
Laura Warren
Probably, I mean I, I can't imagine. I'm sure when I was a kid I was scared of things, but yeah, it takes a lot to scare me, especially when it's spirit because they, they do throw a lot at me sometimes because energy, like the energy of emotion, like you said, like they could be really angry, they could not want you there. And I will feel things. Like sometimes some of the places we walked into, I immediately felt like I was sweating. Like, you know there's energy too close or I would hear almost like screaming or screeching or like somebody's in pain, you know, like literally like these things would kind of, in a sense kind of pile up in my energy field. So. But I do feel like, because I come with the purpose to help help and I come with the purpose to listen and support. I don't judge them, I don't ask them why, like why are you angry? Why don't you want me here? I don't do any of that. I just walk in and I just kind of allow myself to in a sense, hold space. Like you'd hold space for a person. There's no judgment, get it all out of your system, you know, be angry, be, you know, whatever. And then tell me what you need and if I can help them, I do. And I think I, I think they on some level know that and respect that because I have had a lot of odd things happen to me along the way. And I would say the only one that really scared me during the show was we were staying at a place, an old inn. And I won't say the name of the inn because they really didn't like the, like we were just staying there, there was no filming there and they really didn't like the idea that there was a paranormal, you know, know, investigators and things staying in the in. So. But anyway, I had the worst dream I ever had. And in the dream, somebody shot me in the stomach, and I felt it and I heard it, and it woke me up to the point where, you know, I heard the shot as I was waking up. And so there's. There's obviously energies that didn't want me there, you know, or didn't want me to do what I had to do. But at the end of the day, I know that I'm trying to stay in the highest good for everyone involved, and I'm trying to help. Help. So I think that kind of alleviates some of these things. One of the inns that we stayed in that was part of the show, Boscawen Inn, the director thought it might be a good idea to put me in the most haunted room, but not tell me. So she put me in the most haunted room and said, oh, isn't this a beautiful room? But I didn't know this. I never know the stories before we get there. You know, I have to, like, tune in and get the story to stay.
- [62:14]
Alex Ferrari
To stay in that room, to stay in that room to sleep.
- [62:17]
Laura Warren
So I was sleeping in that room and didn't understand why. All night long I couldn't. I could not. I just couldn't get to the place where there was any sleep. It just felt like I was aware, aware. And I do my usual, like, cleansing. And I had cleansed the room and I had put a little line of salt by the door and said, you know, you do not cross this line. Like, I'm in here to sleep and I need to sleep, and then I will talk to you tomorrow and, you know, whatever. So I did not sleep all night. And there was. It felt like there was spirit standing in the doorway on the other side of the salt, just standing there, you know, because that's my boundary. I just set a boundary. And they stayed. They stayed there. They did. They respected my boundary, but I could feel them still. So we had a little filming to do in the morning. We did it, and then I went back to my room and I started to meditate. And I realized what happened. And spirit knew I was coming. They all wanted to talk to me. They were all at the doorway. And once I let them each talk and tell me why they were there, the energy dissipated and it was fine. I wasn't too happy with the director for putting me in that room.
- [63:26]
Alex Ferrari
I understand. I apologize for my profession. Sometimes the directors just really want to get the shot and they kind of get shortsighted.
- [63:32]
Laura Warren
You know what? It wasn't the end of the world. You know, a little sleepless. Night, not the end of the world at all. And the show was that. That episode was amazing. The crew was really scared staying there. In fact, probably three of the crew, three of the crew members had some paranormal experiences while we were there. Everybody wanted me to cleanse their rooms. There was even people asking to sleep in my room because there was an extra bed in my room and it was just really funny. Anyway, after I like kind of did my thing, talked to spirit, cleanse the room, I stayed in the room for the rest of the shoot and it was fine. Fine.
- [64:08]
Alex Ferrari
Then you said something very interesting there. The salt, like you put salt on the door. What does that actually mean? I've seen that a thousand times in movies and witchy shows and something like that, like to protect you or, or bind something inside of the. So what does that practically mean? Does it have to be salt or can it be anything?
- [64:25]
Laura Warren
Well, I think it's a lot about intention. Salt must have some quality that people have learned that it works. You know, like there must be some energetic quality to it. It. But it was really my intention and I was using a physical, something physical to symbolize this is the boundary. Because the lady that I had met way back when I started doing readings and we started doing readings together, she was actually Jamaican. And in Jamaica they use brick dust. So it, you know, I think it's, it's probably semicultural, you know, like what you want to use in your practice. But I believe salt has a certain energy that it, it just works well. But also the intention of the person using it is important too.
- [65:10]
Alex Ferrari
So, you know, we, we hear that we have guardian angels and our relatives and spirit guides and all these things who are protecting us throughout our lifetime here while we're walking around this three dimensional world, you know, and you know, they like protect you from a car accident or from this situation or that situation. But if you walk in, if I walk into a haunted house and there are angry spirits or spirits who are mischievous or something that can actually harm the person, why would any of my angels, spirit guides or relatives allow that to happen to me?
- [65:46]
Laura Warren
So it's interesting you say that because I was asked to do this talk a couple years ago about psychic protection for like a, a paranormal symposium, something. And I had just had a download maybe two months before from spirit saying, you don't need any. So, so here I was, I was supposed to do this hour long talk about psychic protection and I realized you, you don't need it. You know, and if I, if I had, have really been listening to My wife, she doesn't. She. She's in this work as well, just from a different angle. She's more in the healing field, naturopathic field, but very intu. Has done a lot of the same things as me, but never worried about protection. She just knows she's protected now. My. My background is kind of Catholic, so I have the Catholic programming, the incense, the candles, you know, and the oils. And then when I met my. The. My first business partner that we did readings together, she was. She was like, moved to Canada from Jamaica only years before and was entrenched in that spiritualist kind of culture too. And they are very concern about protection. So over the years I've learned that you don't need as much. But what happens when we deal with energies that are not completely on the other side and they're not completely physical? Sometimes the physical symbol of something can really help get the message across. So I will use flowers, sometimes I'll use fruit, Sometimes I do use like crystals, oils, those kinds of things. But it's mostly for that communication to the. To the. In between the. The energies that still can relate to the physical, that might need that physical symbol to understand what you're asking of them.
- [67:39]
Alex Ferrari
That makes sense. I understand what you're saying, but let's say that, you know, you win the lottery or you all of a sudden become an overnight sensation and you're famous, which happens all the time now with social media and so on. And there's a lot of envy and jealousy in a lot of. Of that kind of energy coming towards you. In many circles, that's called like an evil eye. Well, what does you mean? What do you think about that? Like, how would you handle that? Is that a thing or not?
- [68:02]
Laura Warren
Again, I. I think my ideas have changed over the years. I was told when I started this work that there was some things I should do. And without really understanding exactly what I was doing, I was. I was really feeling strongly I should get a tattoo. And this was in the very beginning and kept seeing the symbol of an eye in dreams over and over again. So. And I kept seeing it on my left arm. And it was really. When I have dreams that are repeating, I listen to them because I know that. That there's something in that message. So I ended up googling pictures of eyes. You know, I'm just like, show me eyes. And the Eye of Horus came up and I didn't know. I didn't know much about it at the time. Again, this is, you know, long time ago, probably 15 years ago. 20 years ago. And so I started reading about it, realizing how important it may be for me. And I did end up getting that tattoo because it felt right to me and I'm not a big tattoo person. It's just something that felt really good to have protection in this world and the next.
- [69:11]
Alex Ferrari
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- [70:51]
Laura Warren
Now with regular people and the energy they send you. I've dealt with a lot of that in the beginning actually when I was teaching people just feel things about you and when they don't understand it, sometimes they just decide they don't like you. Pretty, you know, normal, common. But I had to learn how to protect myself when I began to be wide open and really moving into that empath kind of phase of my life life. So I did some things that some worked, some didn't. But what I Realized what works the best is just to keep my energy as high as possible, so to keep my vibration higher. And it's sort of like the idea of the eagle flying over the storm. The storm can happen, you know, it can all happen there. But if I keep my energy in the right place, it shouldn't affect me.
- [71:37]
Alex Ferrari
That's so beautifully said. I mean, you're absolutely right. There's many walking masters who were, you know, obviously not liked. A lot of energy going, you know, negative energy going towards them, jealousy and so on, anger. And it just seemed to bounce off of them. So is that, is there something to that? That if you're vibrating at a certain frequency that you can't even attract that kind of energy towards you? It doesn't even. It doesn't even affect you into your world?
- [72:02]
Laura Warren
I think so, because when you move out of the. When you move out of the sort of like the everyday kind of lower thinking thinking, so you've moved to a place where you expect miracles, you expect to see magic. You're not even in the place of receptivity for that lower energy. It literally looks like to me that there's this buzzy kind of staticky energy here, but if I. If I'm conscious, I can keep myself above it. So there, there may be very little interaction between the two kind of levels of energy.
- [72:40]
Alex Ferrari
Now let's bring Mark into it, back into the conversation. I just adored Mark because of his energy, his very humble energy, very sincere energy. I don't see that very often in mediums and psychics, but I guess because of his impairment, and I'm not saying that all psychics are like that, but he just seemed to have a different level of being humble with what he does, his powers and so on. He seemed like a very soft energy, very kind energy energy. Is that the way he was when you worked with him?
- [73:14]
Laura Warren
Well, what I learned about Mark, and I'm glad I learned it kind of early on, because I didn't understand at first because it felt like, I mean, this show was really important to him. He had worked with AMI before and he loved it. And he. This was a big deal to him. And what I noticed was he was really trying to like as many people I think with disabilities would do, is they try to control the things they can. And I didn't understand that about him in the beginning. So it took me a little bit to kind of step back and see it that he can't see. So because he can't see, he needs to know the play by play, like he needs to know what's happening every moment. Like, he wants to know, okay, what are you going to say? Because then this is what I'm going to say. And, you know, like, he really wanted to have that kind of overview all the time. And at first, it kind of got on my nerves, and then I realized, no, he. He's doing this because he can't control everything. And he's literally, like, when we say, walking into a situation blind, well, that's his whole life, you know, so. So I could see why it happened. And then his heart, the way he. So many things that happened to him in his life that were hard, that he really felt for people. Like, he really had this heart that he just wanted to make people feel better. And honestly, the. One of our episodes was one of the young girl at the Millbrook Nation, Anissa, or Anessa. He stayed in touch with her. He helped her with all kinds of things because she was a creative, and he wanted to support that. So they stayed in touch for a long time, and he made sure that her and her son had a little bit of help and support when they needed it. So, I mean, that's the kind of guy he was. He really did care about people.
- [75:04]
Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. Now, since Mark is in the room, does Mark have any messages for us about the show or just in general about what's going on or advice or words of wisdom, love? What does he have to say?
- [75:21]
Laura Warren
He wants people to know that no matter how dark things are, no matter how bad things seem, that there's always hope. There's always hope. I have goosebumps head to toe because I feel how he's. He had, like, every. Every human, all of us. He. I know he had so much struggle in his life, and sometimes he'll. He's admitting, like, it got the better of him sometimes, but that's human. Like, we all go through that. But the heart. The heart of who he is and what he wanted to do, do got to be expressed in Sightseers. And I think that's. It makes him happy that he was able to do that. So he's just. He's just saying, like, he's talking about you, me and him and just saying how, like, we had to work a few things out because it's true. Psychics don't normally get along. That's. That's a true thing, you know, like, so he's just saying we had to work a few things out, but we came to an understanding, and the show is the proof that we figured it Out.
- [76:32]
Alex Ferrari
That's beautiful. You know, with that said, I do agree with you that there is always hope. No matter how dark things are, there's always a spark of light. And that just makes sense because that's the balance of the universe. When there's a great negative, there has to be a great positive and so on to balance this out. But the world seems right now to be a bit negative. I'm not sure if that's social media or what, but it just seems like the world's getting a bit little crazy. What do you see for humanity's future? And while we have Mark in the room, since he's on the other side, does he have anything he'd like to throw in about where we're going and what we're, what we're up against?
- [77:09]
Laura Warren
Feeling from Mark, it's. It's sort of funny sometimes how I see things. He showed me a checklist and it's sort of like things that I believe that are going to happen. And he's. He's showing me an agreement. He's checking off some of the things that I believe too. Now, Mark, I will say sometimes our perception is. Is a little darker because of things that have happened to us. And so he is the one that will tell you, like, the truth. Like, he will say, like, things. Things may get worse before they get better, you know, and that there has to be. There has to be enough happening to wake people up, up to bring out the best in people so that we can have the world that we truly want to. So this is a time to pay attention, but it's also a time to check in with your own energy, to use your own discernment and direct your energy into places where it should be. Because if we are all. If we're all sad, if we're all in misery, then we're lost. We can't do that. Two things can be true. You can be enraged by what's happening right now, but you can also find joy in your own life. You are allowed to be happy and sad at the same time. We're allowed to be blissful and angry. So the whole thing is we are experiencing sort of like a separation of thought, a separation of evolvement, of the human spirit. And people always have a choice. You have always have a choice which. Where you want to go. And I, I started in a kind of a scary way with my ability opening and having dreams in 2009 of these terrible floods. And somehow me and a small amount of people are like, plucked out and you're above the flood. And you're seeing all these people perish. And it was terrible for me because I. It was only me. I had no one I knew that was in this new place with me. And everyone was gone that I knew. And I kept dreaming it over and over again. And I realized that what it is really, it's not. It's not a flood. It's not a physical flood. It's actually emotion. It's how we deal with fear, how we deal with love. And really, when it comes down to it, any, any guru, any connected person will tell you we're really only inferior. Love, everything comes from those two places. And so you get to decide. You get to decide where you want to be and when in history. I mean, obviously there's quieter times and there's times we can say those are the best times, you know, but when in history hasn't there been a crisis? And our job as humans is not to stay in the crisis. We'll never solve the problems from the crisis. You know, we. We have to move out of that energy. We have to move to a better place. And the only way to do that is to move up the scale in our actual. Where we invest our energy, our actual feelings. And people have to make that choice. And it's not easy. It's not an easy choice to make. But anytime, anytime I connect, you know, Mark. But any spirit, any ascended master, any guide of mine, they just continue to say that this year is going to be difficult. But the pendulum is swinging wide and it's going to swing back. We have to have this time because we need this evolutionary change. But what will happen is we'll come to a much better place. That pendulum has to come back and we can direct our energy into the future that we want to see and create that, that we all have the ability to do that.
- [81:06]
Alex Ferrari
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- [82:43]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show. That's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much for the message. I think people really needed to hear it. For those people who are watching and feel lost, feel anxious about what the world is coming to and, and they feel lost, what advice do you have for them?
- [83:01]
Laura Warren
Go outside, go back into nature. You know, Mother Nature, Mother Earth has a perfect vibration, has perfect energy to offer. And right now people don't have the strength to do anything else but to accept that higher energy, that complete vibration. In the past I've, you know, I've told people, you know, make sure you meditate and ground and you know, you know, cleanse your energy field, eat good food, exercise, all those things are good, good. But I think the advice I would give people is to look for, look, go out in nature. Mother Earth will offer that vibration to you very easily. You don't have to do anything, there's no effort and it just kind of corrects something in our systems. And you, once you raise your vibration, you don't feel as drawn to watch the news. You don't feel as drawn to eat junk food. You know, you just, you don't feel as drawn to get caught up in all that, the, the drama. And I don't know about you, but I know that my soul didn't come into this life to be distraught all the time. I feel like I came here to live a happy, blissful, joy filled life. And it doesn't mean you don't have bad things happen to you and it doesn't mean that there isn't hard times. It just means that you didn't come here to suffer. And your suffering is a choice. So choose not to be caught up in the narrative. Choose to build your own. Build your own reality and just do it in a way that makes you feel good, makes you feel happy.
- [84:48]
Alex Ferrari
Beautifully. Beautifully said, Laura. Thank you so much for that. Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?
- [84:54]
Laura Warren
Most everything's on my website. It's just laurawarren medium.com but you can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Psychic Medium, Laura, etc, and I everything pretty much is there. You can sign up for my newsletter if you want to hear about, like, current events and things that are happening with me. And I'd love to. I'd love to chat with anybody that wants to reach out. I offer classes, mediumship classes. I offer mentorship for lightworkers and I usually have events and things happening, just different things throughout the year. So yeah, just get in touch. Like let's, let's just talk.
- [85:33]
Alex Ferrari
And you do one on ones as well, right?
- [85:35]
Laura Warren
I do.
- [85:37]
Alex Ferrari
Fantastic. Well, prepare yourself. I feel that your inbox might get a little bit full after this conversation, but Laura, thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you so much for helping create Sightseers, which is available on Next Level Soul tv. If anybody wants to go and check it out, it is the only place you can see it here in the States. I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet. So again, thank you so much, Laura, for being on the show.
- [86:05]
Laura Warren
Thank you so much, Alex. I know Mark would be so happy with this. I can just. I feel him. But thank you very much.
- [86:16]
Alex Ferrari
Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at Next Level Soul Forward slash six seven one. And if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.
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