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What 2,000 Near-Death Experiences Say About Humanity's Future with David Suich
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What happens after we die… and is there a pattern to it? After studying over 2,000 Near-Death Experiences, David Suich reveals a shocking truth: despite different beliefs, cultures, and backgrounds, people consistently report the same core...
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David Such
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of conscious, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists, and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the Next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level Soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the Next level, explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series and guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next Level Soul tv. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host or or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion David Such. How you doing, David?
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David Such
I'm doing well today. Thank you so much for having me back on the show. It's a pleasure to be here.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, man. Thank you so much for making the trip down to Next Level Soul Studios. I appreciate it, my friend. Our last conversation did fairly well. Over a million.
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David Such
Yes, I was happy with that.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
It's been a while. How long?
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David Such
It's been about three years now.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Three years now? Yeah. Your story is pretty remarkable because you've really dived into the near death experience world coming from a background of being an engineer. So I'm just going to start you off with my first question. And by the way, we also talk about your new book, the New World of Love, which God I hope that's true, we do believe in new world of love is exactly what we need. You've studied over a thousand year death experience. What's one detail that you still can't shake that you discovered in those?
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David Such
One detail that I still can't shake because it's just so hard to swallow is that these people get before this beautiful being of light and love that's so amazing and so filled with wisdom and knowledge and beauty and peace and love and acceptance and compassion and every positive thing you could possibly imagine. Powerful, all knowing, the creator of everything that exists. And then they remember, that's me. I am part of that. Just our flawed human lives down here. It's hard to believe that that's the case, but I know it's true.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Beautiful. Now when people say they died, what does that consistently, what does that consistently says happens in the first moments when they die? Because I know there's a. I mean you've studied how many?
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David Such
Oh, I've heard around 1200 testimonies. That's the number I officially use. It's probably over 2,000. I stopped counting a while back.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So something like let's say 2000. Let's say so with all of them. I mean I've done 150 maybe on the show. I've had a lot of near death experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the show. So I've heard a lot of my own. Plus talking to researchers like yourself who give me more details about it. There seems to be a pattern, but it's not exact for everybody. From what understand it is a customly built experience for that person. So in other words, in other words, Vishnu is not going to show up if you've been a Catholic all your life, generally speaking, because I've heard that as well. Like atheist and Jesus shows. My favorite story, if I could tell you. Oh, yeah, my favorite, my favorite near death experience. One of my favorite near death experience funny stories is there's an atheist who dies. And this was told to me by a researcher atheist who dies. And when he's goes on the other side, Jesus shows up. But he's an atheist. But he's. But this. But just Jesus is dressed in a suit and tie and his hair is pulled back in a ponytail and he goes, and he knows who Jesus is. He just doesn't believe. He didn't believe in him. He goes, are you Jesus? Yeah. He goes, why are you dressed that way? He goes, oh, you wouldn't take me seriously any other way. So that's why I dressed like that. I was like, wow, wow, that was interesting. So everyone's a little bit different. So can you explain from your perspective?
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David Such
Well, so heaven will often create an experience that the individual either feels comfortable with or that they need. So the very first one I ever heard, Howard Storm, who's become a friend of mine since he needed a rough experience. Sometimes we need a painful experience to make us change our ways or to wake us up. So they create environments. So if you're a big fan of nature, they might bring you into one of heaven's beautiful gardens where there are flowers that glow with their own light and sort of make these heavenly tones and sing and things like that. If you are a Christian, you might meet Jesus, or if you're a Buddhist, you might meet Buddha, or if you were close to your grandmother, she'll be there for you. So they want you to feel comfortable and they'll create an entire environment. And so. But there are plenty of common elements. People have life reviews. They describe the love, the indescribable peace. A lot of people meet former pets that kind of shocked me because I was taught in Catholic school. Oh, pets don't have souls. Well, I lost count of how many people got to heaven. They saw their former pets. So there's plenty of common elements as well.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, I've heard, I've heard people who've said that they've seen, you know, they worked in the Savannah or something like that or a zoo. And the. You have giraffes show up and elephants show up and not just the dogs and the cats. So it's, it's really Fascinating. Now you said something about Howard Sturm, who I have not had on the show. And we'll talk later. I'd love to have Howard on the show, but he had a negative. He's a very famous negative experience. Generally near death experiences, 95 if not more percent of them are positive. They're not scary. I've had a few that have been scary and the people who have come on who said that they were scary, they always said I needed that to go through that in order to learn the lesson or whatever they were trying to teach me in the near death experience. But from my understanding is anytime, anytime someone goes through a negative experience, all they need to do is choose something differently while they're in the experience. So like, they go, God help me, Jesus, help me. I want out of the. They ask for help. The second they ask for help, an angel shows up, Jesus shows up, whatever deity shows up to rescue them out of that place. And every and all the, the demons or whatever negative energies, they're scatter like roaches in the light kind of thing. Is that kind of your experience as well?
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David Such
Yes. There are two ways those negative experiences generally become positive. So about 2 or 3% of the testimonies I've heard were negative experiences. Now it's important to note that hell is not a punishment and it is not permanent. Every realm has its purpose in the divine perfect plan of creation. So these are tough cases where they either choose at a subconscious level to experience it or unwittingly, they end up there because they're in a negative fear state. So your emotions get multiplied in the afterlife. So I've heard a lot of testimonies where they die. They come out of their body, they're in the dark void, they're freaking out, they don't know what's going on. And it's getting worse and worse. And as soon as they say, oh, I'm dead, there's nothing I can do about this, and they calm down, the experience becomes positive. And what you said is what I was told by my guides. And I heard this from another researcher as well. And this has been true in my own research. Every single case without fail, where a person is having a negative near death experience and they call out to God or heaven or Jesus or anybody for help. They are always rescued 100% of the time.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Right. They're never abandoned.
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David Such
Yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
It's never that thing. This whole thing fascinates me.
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David Such
Life, it frustrates and fascinates me.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
It frustrates. It frustrates me to nth degree. But I find this whole experience very fascinating to me. The more I go down this road with spirituality and going within myself and interviewing and having conversations and relationships with some of the most fascinating spiritual leaders and spiritual thinkers and philosophers living today. I've been. I've been a naturally curious person since I was a child. You know, ever since I was in Catholic school. I was like, but wait a minute. What happened to Jesus during those years that he doesn't not spoke? I call those the yada yada years. And they're like, don't talk about that. I'm like, but wait, that's the most interesting part. So I've always been very, very inquisitive in regards to spirituality. But the simulation, which is what I call it, and I. And I'm not the first to think about it, but it's. It's so fascinating. It's so complex on so many levels. Just our human body, our avatar, is so beyond complex and perfect that we still can't grasp everything that it does. Not even. Not even close. Our arrogance believes it does. Medicine believes it does. But it does things that it doesn't, that we can't even comprehend. And the deeper we go into, like, analyzing and breaking it down and trying to quantify, almost feels like you're trying to grab sand and hold on to. It just slips a little bit farther and farther. I just find this whole thing so fascinating. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show. When you were going down this road, did you believe in God when you started this or afterlife or any of this stuff?
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David Such
Well, it was in 1999 that I came down with chronic tendonitis throughout my whole body. And I was what I considered a born again Christian back then. So I was religious and believed in God. But after eight years of chronic pain, 2007, that was worsening. I had tendonitis in my jaw, my hands, my feet, and it was making it difficult to work. And I became very depressed. And I thought, you know, maybe God's not real, but more likely he's real. But I'm the disobedient Christian. I'm the son he's embarrassed of. I'm the failure. I'm the one who says, I want nothing to do with you. Now, it's kind of funny to say that now, knowing who God is.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, yeah.
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David Such
His love for us is so tremendous. I mean, he, God doesn't just love us, adores us, he is us. Yeah. And then when I, right now, when I say he, okay, so God contains all that's masculine, feminine. I say that because that's traditional, because
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Host (Next Level Soul)
you were raised Christian and that's, you know, like a friend of mine says, like I say God because mom was Christian Catholic. So that's basically why we say that.
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David Such
Exactly. So I began to lose faith. And then in 2007, I clicked on this YouTube video of an atheist who died. And that just, that changed everything. And it renewed my faith in God. It renewed my faith in myself. It changed my relationship with my family, even the way I treat nature. Before, I treated nature like a resource to be exploited Natural resources. And I've come to learn now through my research that we're not separate from nature. We're part of nature. And when we destroy nature, we destroy ourselves. So it even changes the way I behave in public. If I'm walking in public and I see a piece of trash before, I would say, this is my neighborhood. I don't care. Well, now I'll stop and pick it up. And so it changed every aspect of my life for the positive. It didn't necessarily make life easier. I think life was easier as a Christian, because when you believe in things that are not part of the cultural paradigm, and you know this because of the. All this work you're doing, you get the raised eyebrows and there's this reaction of, you're crazy. And because you're crazy, you might be dangerous, and I need to get away from you. So it's tough being one of the older souls who's trying to push this raising of consciousness along the work that you're doing, but it's. It's worth the effort.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, it's interesting because I agree with you, like when you go against. I've been against the grain since I was a baby, as I was a troublemaker. I still am a troublemaker, and I enjoy being a troublemaker for whatever reason. But. But these conversations have become, obviously much more acceptable around the world. And people are searching for these conversations because the stories that they were told, the plot holes are starting to show, and they're not getting the answers that they need from those. So they're looking for other avenues. But if you're doing it right, all those other avenues lead back to here.
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David Such
Oh, yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
This is where the answer is. It's inside. Which is what Jesus said, which is what the Buddha said, which all the great masters said the same. They all say the same thing. Love. We are all one. The great illusion, like these are all concepts. The kingdom of heaven is within you. You know, all that kind of stuff is fairly fascinating. I want to ask you in regards to your pain, because that is one of the parts of your story that really touches me because a lot of people out there are in pain. How did you. I mean, eight years of pain. How did you deal in those eight years prior to clicking on that video? And then tell me how the pain changed afterwards. But during those eight years of chronic pain, I have to imagine that affected every aspect of your life.
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David Such
It did. Now you can deal with things like this two ways. As a human being. There's nothing you can do about it. You got to deal with the pain. So I can be in pain and just treat it like a nuisance and try and be happy and find joy, or I can focus on it and make it worse and wallow in it. And that's what I did. And I turned to medication. My doctors put me on Vicodin. Oh, Now, I wasn't popping Vicodins like their M&Ms. Like Rush Limbaugh did when he had his back injury. I was taking the prescribed amount. I only averaged a couple a day. But I was that for 20 years, and it eventually led to psychosis. I thought I was losing my mind. And my friend Jack, who had got a severe spinal degeneration, was on heavier medication. And that happened to him after five years. And he said, dave, it's this medication. You need to get off of it. So I did. In 2019, after 20 years, cold turkey. Cold turkey.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So you were. So it wasn't eight years of pain, it was 20 years of pain.
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David Such
20 years, yep. 1999 through 2019. And in 2019, I was getting a tug from Spirit. Sell everything you have, buy a trailer and go out and live in nature for at least a year. I'm thinking, I don't want to do this.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
I mean, right? Spirit's a little pushy sometimes. I mean, it irritates me, honestly.
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David Such
But they do know best. So finally. And I was thinking, I don't want to go along by myself. That's strange. But I was living by myself. I was kind of lonely. I was out of work, and I thought, I'm not even dating anybody, so I can't really ask a woman. So I call up my ex girlfriend, who I broke up with three years ago, lived in Mexico, and I said, hey, you want to quit your job and live in a trailer with me for a year and see the United States? And she goes, okay. And of course, we fell in love on that trip, and we got married. And she's an angel of a woman. And then I later found out that I was supposed to be a teacher and an author and help this great awakening that's happening now with humanity. And if I wasn't on track, she was my backup plan to come in. And then, course, I helped her, too, because she was in a job that was getting more and more stressful as an accountant, and she was being so overworked. They had four accountants, and one quit because there was too much work. So they gave the work to the three that remained, and another one quit and they gave the work to. And it just. She Was getting physically ill and vomiting. And so I took her away from all that. I had some savings, so we helped each other. And amazingly, about six months after I stopped the Vicodin, the pain levels went way up at first and then they normalized and.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Meaning the pain still was there.
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David Such
Oh, it was still there. And then about six months into this being out in nature, I started feeling a little better. I started using my mobility scooter less and less. I mean, I couldn't be on my feet for more than 10 minutes. I'd have to use my mobility scooter
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Host (Next Level Soul)
to go to Walmart. Yeah.
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David Such
I mean, yeah, fairly young man. It was embarrassing to be, you know, an immobility scooter. Not. And I thought one day, well, I'm going to try walking a mile, which would normally cause two weeks of pain. And there was no pain. And then a couple days later I walked 2 and then 3 and then 5 and then 7. And at 7 it started hurting. I backed off and basically my body healed. I still have a little pain now and then, but I can work all day in the yard and I can walk five miles without a problem. I had a miraculous healing. Yeah, it was wonderful.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So then that healing, it's basically kept all these years. Yes, yes, it's been kept. And it hasn't, hasn't flared up or anything like that?
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David Such
No, it hasn't.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Occasional little pains here, but that's just general wear and tear on the bottom on the car.
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David Such
Yeah. The secret to perfect health, because I'm 61, I've discovered the secret to perfect health. Don't get older. Because I didn't have any problems like that when I was 20. No. But yeah, it's been wonderful. And I don't know what caused the healing. I don't know whether it was my wife's love or getting off the medication, which I suspect was to keep me on the medication because it will be discovered in the future that pharmaceutical companies are intentionally keeping people sick for money. And I think those, those opiate based medications are designed to keep you using them.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Well, I mean that's now public, everyone knows that. Yeah.
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David Such
And it could have been just time in nature. Nature has a very healing energy. And we moved into a house on top of the mountain in the middle of the woods. And I think it really was all of those things. And I also let some old negative thought patterns go. So, you know, somebody listening is in chronic pain. Don't give up hope. It's not natural for a guy in his mid-50s to suddenly heal from 20 years of worsening chronic pain. Don't give up hope.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
What. What did pain takes? What did pain slowly take from you during those years?
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David Such
It took away my desire to live. It affects every aspect of your life. It's like a. A splinter in your mind just driving you nuts. It doesn't leave you alone. It's there all the time screaming at you. When you're trying to have a conversation, when you're trying to enjoy life, it's. It's just the most awful thing in the world. And pain is there to teach us. Now, I don't understand completely what that means, but it's a way of moving us away from things that we don't desire. And that's what I've heard in my research. There's. It's a manifestation. Generally, that kind of chronic pain I had was a manifestation of something going on and imbalanced spiritually. Now, if you've gotten in a car accident, broken your back, that's a different story. But pain like that, that really doesn't seem to have a basis. I mean, the doctors. I'd been to, 20, 30 different doctors spent tens of thousands of dollars. Nobody could fix me. So that it was because of spiritual stuff going on and possibly unhealthy choices in my life. With the medication I was taking, the way I was eating, the people I surrounded myself with, my friends changed when I got out of California, I got out of the big city, and I think there was a negative vibration where I was living. And just being out in the country, that changed things. So I really don't understand the whole thing. I'm just grateful every day of my life to be able to walk and not deal with pain every day.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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David Such
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show. Did your guides ever suggest karma?
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David Such
No. No. I never heard that from my guides
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Host (Next Level Soul)
about karma, about karma being, you know, because normally when you in life, when you have certain things happen to you, there's some sort of balancing going on. So there might have been something from another.
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David Such
There could have been, sure.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Very easily could have been. When you're going through that, what was the most difficult belief to hold on to that you were trying to like, kind of like God or, you know, was the belief that you, like you held from your olden days prior to the pain to where you came in and you're like, I can't believe. I can't. I can't. I can't believe this anymore.
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David Such
Well, this is difficult to talk about. I'm so sorry that. That God cared about me.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
That was, that was the one that really hit you.
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David Such
I felt abandoned. But, you know, just recently, my guides, as I was going through a. I'm going through a difficult time in life right now, actually, that we talked about before the show. I don't want to get into that, but they brought back an old memory. I have spiritual guides that speak to me on a regular basis and they're really good with teaching me and they're very matter of fact. They're sort of never judgmental. They're just very matter of fact. But I'm going through this Rough time. And they said, wait till you see what's coming. So what does that mean? I was 17 years old. It's a long time ago, over 40 years ago. I was in a youth retreat, and this youth pastor was up there talking about this story. And he said, okay, this soldier is in this dark area. It's completely dark, and he's injured, and he's hungry and cold and tired. Can't see a thing. And he's with his sergeant. And the sergeant orders him, put this backpack on. And the backpack's empty. He says, now start walking. Well, I can't see where I'm going. He goes, start walking. We got to get back to base. So they start walking, and every time he trips on a rock, the sergeant orders him to pick it up and put in the backpack. And he goes, why am I doing this, sergeant? He goes, just keep walking. Do what I tell you. It's for your own good. And he's mad at this sergeant. You know, he's being a jerk. Why do I have to go through this? I mean, we got to walk back. Why am I putting rocks in my backpack? To make it heavier. They keep going. Now the backpack's full, and it's just a burden. They finally get back to base, the sun's coming up. He goes into his barracks, throws the backpack down by the side of his bed and lays down. Wakes up the next morning, and he picks up the backpack to empty out the rocks. And they're gold. They're rocks of gold. And sometimes in life, we don't see the reason for the stuff we're going through until later. If it were not for my chronic pain, I would not have gotten together with this angel of a woman that I'm married to. My life would not have changed. I wouldn't have broken down. Sometimes you got to hit rock bottom to change. Just like a drug addict going through the dark night of the soul and hitting rock bottom. The dance of consciousness is always one of two steps forward and one step back. And sometimes you got to take a step back. Consciousness learns through contrast. Matter of fact, that's what we're doing here on planet Earth. In the perfect environment of heaven, it's hard to change and grow. And near death experiences have been told that if it were not for souls leaving the comfort and joy of their heavenly homes, disconnecting from feeling the beautiful love coming down into these tough lifetimes. And this is a tough place to be if you're here on planet Earth. Oh, you're an expert. Soul Earth is the Hardest place to have a life in this galaxy. It's one of three hardest in the universe. If it were not for souls incarnating, the growth and change of heaven could not continue. We're doing the tough work for creation. We are a critical part of the engine of growth of creation because consciousness learns through contrast. And that's why people are honored in heaven. When they have these near death experiences, they're treated like war heroes. Some of them even ask, why are you looking at me like that? Because you're brave. You're doing it because you love your heavenly family. You're helping, literally helping God grow and evolve by doing what you're doing.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
What caused you to go down the, the path of investigating near death experiences? What were you hoping to prove or go into these stories? Because they're just to be honest, if you're looking at it from a point of view of an outsider, which I talk to people all the time and my entry level to what we do is like, I talk to near death experiencers. That's the most acceptable thing because it's been going around as opposed to like, I also talk to psychics and channelers and mystics and gurus. But near death experiencers are palatable even in Christian faiths, even in. It's palatable because it reinforces some of the stories that they do. Not all, but some. But what were you hoping to do for yourself to investigate all of this?
- [31:00]
David Such
I really didn't know. I was just sort of blindly moving forward. When I clicked on that testimony, it was a YouTube video that came up in my feed. I wasn't even searching for it. And this is 2007. So YouTube is like a couple of years old. I was a few years old. So I would search for near death experiences on YouTube and I'd find one or two a month. Well, now I can't keep track of the channels. Oh no, that's how many there are. So when I clicked on that testimony from Howard Storm and you know, he's going towards this beautiful place of light and love and he thinks I've made a mistake. Sorry. He thinks they've made a mistake. I'm garbage filled scum. I don't belong up there. And they stopped. They weren't in heaven, they weren't in hell, they were in between. And Jesus turned him and said, we don't make mistakes. You belong here with us. And they went over his whole life from beginning to end. They showed him what he did right and what he did wrong. And without going into details that the point of this life is real simple. When we are loving and kind and compassionate people, it makes all of heaven happy. And when we are cruel and selfish and manipulative, they're manipulative, they're a little disappointed. They wish we would have chosen the path of love. And that message spoke such truth to my heart. And it was what I needed because as an engineer, I want evidence. I can't work on blind faith and believe something because some guy in a costume who we call a priest tells me to believe it. I needed evidence. And, and my guides and the spirits who are with me knew that that's what I needed. And so I just looked into one after another, after another after another. And finally I was like, well, I got it. I got to tell people about this, just like you're telling people about it. So it's been a wonderful journey.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
But you're an engineer by trade.
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David Such
Power plant engineer. Yes, yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So if as an engineering, your mind is wired a bit differently than the woo woo, the woo woo folks, or the creative folks or, or, you know, it's a different kind of brain wiring. So when you started going down this road, this must have just fried you because your brain is analytical. If I'm, if I may be so bold. Yeah, engineers minds are very analytical. Very. Kind of like one plus one equals two kind of scenario where the esoteric is not one plus one equals to one plus one equals apple is, is the esoteric. So how did you even wrap your brain in your own belief system into this kind of processing this kind of information?
- [33:34]
David Such
Well, at first what I was trying to do is match these near death experiences with my Christian faith. And it eventually became impossible because I would hear things like, well, this isn't your first time here. You have many lifetimes. And of course it's, that should have been obvious because they, it's in the Bible. Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah. So you know, it's in there. But the pattern was always the same. I would hear something, I would learn something new from these experiences. And I would say, no, this can't be true. And slowly I would accept it. And just as I was getting comfortable, they'd give me the next thing to, to take on. So the first one was like multiple lifetimes. And then one of my interviewees told me, you're going to start developing psychic abilities. And I just laughed at him because I knew as an engineer that was just a bunch of garbage. That was. Yeah, they were taking advantage of people who were foolish and, you know, for money or Something like that. And then it started happening to me and I was in denial for so long. And then it just. It became overwhelming. And I'm a spiritual counselor. And so now somebody comes up on the screen and I get flashes about their life. Not always, but I see things. And so now it's just a normal part of my life. My guides who speak to me on a daily basis, and psychic things and things like that. And just recently the psychic stuff saved my life. I was told to get out of the house where I was because I was in danger. It turned out it was true. So it just became a normal part of my life. But it's. It's the same process that's still happening today. I deny it and then I get evidence and I finally accept it. One of the things, for instance, is a few of these near death experiences are shown glimpse of the future. And one of the things they said is there's going to be a new kind of politician in the future. And they're going to be gentle and soft spoken and rule from love and compassion. And they won't even call their opponent an opponent. They'll call him a colleague and they'll say things like, well, Jim has these ideas and, you know, I think they'll work for these reasons, but I have these ideas and they may work better for these reasons. And they'll never say a negative word about somebody else.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Kind of like what we're doing now, kind of the way the political system is now in every country in the world. No. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show.
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David Such
And I'm thinking, oh, that's never going to happen. Well, it, it will. As the consciousness of humanity continues to rise, they're not going to stand for the power hungry politician who's going to become a dinosaur of the. That's a hard one to swallow, but I've heard it multiple times now and I'm starting to believe it. I don't know when it's going to happen. I hope sooner than later. I'm looking forward to having that happen hopefully in my lifetime.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
I can't even imagine that. Well, you know, they just passed the law or are about to pass a law in Wales. I don't know if you heard this or not.
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David Such
I have not.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
This law apparently is that any politician that misleads the public will be fired.
- [38:30]
David Such
Oh wow.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Can you imagine you, if you're caught misleading the public or lying to the public, you're removed as a politician.
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David Such
That's part of the rising consciousness in this great awakening. People are demanding integrity and transparency from politicians. There has always been corruption in leadership
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Host (Next Level Soul)
for thousands of years, since the Egyptians, if not since the before then.
- [38:56]
David Such
But with the age of the Internet when even people who are living on the streets have a smartphone, over 70% of the world has a smartphone and they can talk to the rest of the world. You can't keep secrets anymore.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
It's hard.
- [39:09]
David Such
And so the first part of solving any problem is recognizing that the problem exists. So we are in the age of exposure right now and you can see the anger and you can see the frustration, but this is a good thing. It's the first step in addressing the problems and they will all be addressed, including the environment. And that's been exposed now. And now environmentalism is on the rise.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Food. The food system.
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David Such
Oh, yeah.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Media, politicians, religious institutions, every aspect of life, the medical world, all of it's been. In the last 20 years, so much has come out and it seems like more and more and more stuff, like I use this as an example, but now that, now that America's finally taking a look at their food system, we
- [39:58]
David Such
have GMOs in the food supply. Genetically modified organisms. And the experts in that field say those make human beings sterile within three generations. Luckily, now they're illegal in over 35 countries and that number is growing. And you have wonderful. I call them soldiers for gaia. People like Dr. Vandana Shiva, who's out there talking about, you know, organic farming, natural, you know, diversity in the food supply. So even that's going to change. We're going to get smart about the way we eat.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, I mean, you know, petrochemicals, dyes are now being removed.
- [40:37]
David Such
Yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Target won't even have any breakfast cereal that has a dye in it.
- [40:41]
David Such
Yeah. I think here in the United States, McDonald's french fries have formaldehyde, a dozen ingredients or something. In Europe, but they've passed laws, I think there's only three ingredients or four or something like that. And their dyes are different, like you said, for the foods. So, yeah, they're passing laws now for ethical treatment of animals to have healthier food products. We're in the process of waking up and changing things. But culture does not change direction on a dime, like a hockey skater. It's more like a cruise ship. It's going to be a long, slow u turn to turn the society around. But we've passed the point of no return. We were heading towards the cliff. So Nostradamus, Mother Shipton, revelation that predicted doom and gloom. Anytime you talk about the future, you're talking about the direction we're going in at the moment. And then the new world of love. The new world of love. So you make a prediction based on the direction you're going now. This is the likely outcome. So thanks to a lot of help from above, not just from heaven, but from other sources, we passed the point of no return. We're not going to destroy ourselves. We're going to become an ascended species. And now everything's just coming to the surface and working itself out. So it's a done deal. We're going to make it.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
I love that. I love that in all the. The. All the cycles of humanity throughout the. Throughout the millennias, this is our latest cycle, Atlantis, and all that was a cycle before then. There's cycles before that. We've been around on the planet 250 million years or something like that. And then all of a sudden, we became the leading Homo sapien on the planet very quickly. And I don't want to go down the Anunnaki road right now. We've spoken about Anunnaki a lot, but there's been many iterations, this kind of cycle of like the Great Flood and everything gets wiped out, or an asteroid comes and wipes out the dinosaurs and that guy. So we've been going through all these cycles. Humanity, from your understanding, humanity has never gone to this level in any iteration?
- [42:51]
David Such
No. I think the Lemurian and Atlantean societies were at a high consciousness level, and I think we just passed them. So it's the first time in what, 60,000 years that we've gotten to this level. And that's necessary for the changes that are happening. So there's cycles in consciousness that happen, part of the dance of consciousness, two steps forward. The Yuga cycles, kind of the Yuga cycle. So there's a very good documentary on YouTube that you can watch for free called 2012 Crossing Over. A New Beginning, I think it's called. And that was made in 2011 when there was that doom and gloom with the calendar.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
There was also Y2K too.
- [43:29]
David Such
Y2K. They thought it was the end of the world. Well, the Mayans knew about this cycle and they knew that it wasn't the end of the world they were talking about. It was the end of an age what will be known in the future, especially the time before 2012. That time will be known as the barbaric age. And I have seen in my psychic visions children sitting in classrooms in the distant future, studying channels like yours and books like mine and many other hundreds of writings and teachings of spiritual leaders and teachers. And the children will marvel that we somehow got through the most brutal time of treating each other horribly and trashing the environment. And we pulled off the biggest miracle in the history of humanity and became an ascended species. And then they will say, but wait a minute. And these people knew. They had these teachers and they had these books and all this stuff. Why didn't they listen? And the teacher will say, well, there was very few people who were awake. Nobody was listening to them. But now people are starting to listen.
- [44:29]
Host (Next Level Soul)
It's interesting because I always found it fascinating, like when Christ was walking the earth or when Buddha was walking the earth, or Confucius or Saint Germain or any of the ascended and any of the ascended masters they were walking around. I mean, Jesus will use as an example because you and I both are familiar with his story that he was trying to push higher consciousness at a time which was beyond barbaric meaning. Like, they didn't. Like the witches, you know, the Salem and the witch trials and all that kind of stuff, their inquisition. But during Jesus's time, they were. There's like barely anybody, literally barely anybody who would listen because they were. They were so at a different level. I always found a fact, like, you know, when I. If I could ever interview Jesus or interview Buddha, I'm like, what would it be like to. What was it like talking to people? It would be like me trying to explain to. To a cat about algebra. Like, it just. They just didn't have the vibration. They didn't have the frequency. They didn't have the capability to understand. And the teachings he taught the, the big basic loved ones, we are all one and, you know, the kingdom of heavens within you and everything I could do, you could do and more and, you know, turn the other cheek and love, love, love. That was basically insanity back then.
- [45:59]
David Such
Oh, yeah. And. Well, that's why he got so frustrated. You know, he told his disciples, you know, how must longer much like, put up with. He got frustrated just like any other human being.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
He got angry too. Yeah, he flipped it.
- [46:10]
David Such
He got angry and now he lost his temper. And he. Jesus is like. So for those listening, sometimes people say, when I give my talks, I get criticized from both sides because I get criticized from Christians saying, well, you're talking about things that aren't biblical.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And.
- [46:27]
David Such
And then I get criticized from the new age spirituality community says, what do you talk about Jesus? Well, Jesus is not limited to Christianity.
- [46:34]
Host (Next Level Soul)
He's right there next to all the other avatars.
- [46:36]
David Such
There you go.
- [46:36]
Host (Next Level Soul)
I mean, come on.
- [46:37]
David Such
Many masters of planet. So he's like the master in my opinion, as far as I can tell from my research, he is like the core of God who acts as an advocate and a helper to human beings, but incarnating, he faced all the frustrations we did. And I occasionally have communications with Jesus. Talking to Jesus is like talking to your best friend. You just feel like you can say anything to him. He's really lighthearted. He makes me laugh. He's really funny. And people who have had near death experiences say the same thing.
- [47:04]
Host (Next Level Soul)
He has great sense of humor.
- [47:05]
David Such
Oh, wonderful sense of humor.
- [47:07]
Host (Next Level Soul)
Hardest working men in show business. He's had everyone's near death experience.
- [47:12]
David Such
And so last week, as I'm going through this rough time in my life, I say, you know, sometimes I feel like, you know, I've lost hope. Like I feel like I'm in here all alone, even though I know I have help. And he says, oh yeah, I felt the same way. Why do you think I said on the cross? My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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Host (Next Level Soul)
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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David Such
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now Back to the show.
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David Such
And I followed this up with well, how. I mean, how do I know this is you talking to me? Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself. And he said me too, in a laughing way. Like, yeah, I try and get through to people and they don't listen. So he's really funny. He's got a great way about him. And yeah, he struggled trying to get this message out to people who were very religious and very dogmatic in their beliefs. But he did it because humanity was barely ready to hear the message. Barely barely ready. And so he did the tough work. He made a sacrifice for us and came down here. He knew the potentials. He knew they were going to torture him. And I asked him about that. I said that must have been horrible being nailed to a cross. And he goes oh, that wasn't the worst. I had worse deaths on other plants where they burned him to death or tortured him or for years. That wasn't the worst. So he had it worse in other places. And some planets that he incarnated on, they. They accepted his message and others rejected him like we did killed him.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
But. Or being debating a. A fundamental Christian and there. And many times Europeans believe that. That Europe brought Christianity to Africa. And he's like what are you talking about? Have you not heard of the Ethiopian Bible which predates anything that the Vatican ever did and is the most cohesive Bible on the planet. And we've had Christianity for probably a couple hundred years prior to anyone ever showing up.
- [51:07]
David Such
I did not know that.
- [51:08]
Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, most people don't. Most people don't know that. But you start looking at the Ethiopian Bible and the Ethiopian Bible is a much. It's as it's. That's the oldest Bible with, with. With. With books and the Book of Enoch's in it, all these kind of things. So it's fascinating about that. But what the question was going to ask you in regards to like Krishna and Buddha, those ideas that it seems like the people from the east that were not European and not Middle Eastern, they were much more open to a lot of these.
- [51:44]
David Such
Yes.
- [51:45]
Host (Next Level Soul)
Higher consciousness because India obviously and China obviously both of those, India specifically. So much more in the spiritual and in this. In the Maya and that all of into much older. I mean the Vedic texts are thousands of years older than Christ and before he was injured. So all these ideas were around and they were accepted in a very large way in China and in India. I'm just using those two countries as an example. Much more than the west ever was. So why do you believe that that group of human beings and souls in those areas of the world were more accepting and open to these ideas? Because when, from what I've read, when Jesus did go to India in those eight. Within those 18 years, that. I mean, right now Jesus is considered a great avatar, a great yogi in India. He's very well known in India. A lot of people thought that no one knew, like. No, he's extremely well known and was well known way before the British ever got there. So it's fascinating. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
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David Such
What you've heard, I really don't know. I would suspect it has to do with Western culture being wrapped up in not only religion, but materialism.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Right.
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David Such
Because they're very successful.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, exactly.
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David Such
So the British were the first to develop mass manufacturing, that kind of thing. And you had the British Empire. And so I think that was a
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Host (Next Level Soul)
big part of it, that the energetically. I guess the west always was more. I mean, look at the U.S. i mean, for God's sakes. All so powerful in the materialistic world, where in the east, it was much more in the spiritual side of things. But that's starting to shift as well, too.
- [53:25]
David Such
Oh, yes. And when you're wrapped up in the rat race, it's easy to forget about the things that really matter. It's easy to get disconnected from spirit and.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
But let me ask you. So if you're in the middle of, you know, someone's watching this and they're working their second shift at Denny's or at a, you know, a diner or a warehouse somewhere or something like that, and they're listening to this right now, what advice would you have for them to reconnect with spirit? Because if they're listening, that means they're trying or they're curious. But it's so difficult when. When crap is raining down from you, from the heavens, and you feel like you can't get up. Like any time you feel like you're getting above water just a little bit, another wave just hits you. That's a very difficult place to be in when you're in this simulation, this life, and you feel lost. You felt it.
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David Such
Yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
You felt it. So what advice do you have for them to connect back to source, to connect to the truth of who they are while being pummeled by life and the situation that life is providing them.
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David Such
As difficult as life can be sometimes, and life is getting more difficult, it's getting more and more challenging to work and pay the bills because the globalists are trying to tighten their grip as they're losing control. And the top down pyramid structure of authority eventually is going to collapse and it's going to go to community control. And I talk about this in the book the next 150 years, but I don't know if there's much one can do other than what I try and do is, first of all, the human consciousness was not meant to take on the drama, chaos, negativity and fear of an entire planet. And that's what the mainstream media, that's what the mainstream news media brings right to the front of our consciousness. It's a constant drumbeat of negativity. It's over 80% negative and that's not good. So I turn off the news and I shrink my world. I pay attention only to the people I interact with every day and I do my best to be kind and compassionate to them. And the other thing is to turn off your cell phone or put it in airplane mode. Spend some time in nature. Anything during free time that brings you joy. Whether it's creating music or watching a funny movie, or going for a walk in nature, or doing something that you love to do that brings you joy. That's a high vibration state. So the more that you can get into that state, the more you're going to be able to handle the difficult work life that corporations and businesses are putting on us. They're treating people more and more like objects to get money out of and productivity out of instead of human beings. And that's going to change. We're eventually going to learn to honor each other and honor life. And as technologies continue to, we will eventually get to a place 100, 150 years from now where our basic necessities are taken care of, mostly with food replicators, remote manufacturing, automated systems and all that. We're eventually going to become a society where we get up every morning, we decide what do we want to work on today. Do we want to make a community garden? Do we want to build another spacecraft for our adventures in the cosmos to meet new species? This is a temporary situation, so we have to make the best of a bad situation. And I know it's tough out there. People are really struggling. Sometimes when there's a storm, you cannot calm the storm, but what you can do is calm yourself and the storm's gonna pass. So that's my best advice. Do your best to calm yourself with the things you love to do.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
That's beautiful advice. It sounds like we're heading towards Star Trek.
- [57:20]
David Such
We are.
- [57:21]
Host (Next Level Soul)
I mean, yeah, I can see it, I can see it. I mean, you're starting to smell it with AI and with the technology advancements that eventually we're going to get to a place where our basic needs are covered.
- [57:34]
David Such
Yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
If you, if you look into the past, I was obsessed with the Spartans for a long time and I've studied that, that society fairly deeply and understanding that they were able to do. And again, this is not a good example of where you could do and how they did it. But their basic needs were all covered because they had slaves. So they all, they figured out all they wanted to do is become warriors. So they spent all their time become the greatest warriors in the world at the time. But they basically, all of their stuff was handled because it had slaves. Now we're not going into that world, but we are going into a world that technology will be able to cover everything that we need. Food, shelter, all our basic needs. And then like you said, we can wake up and just go, I think I'm going to write a book today or I'm going to go make a movie or a hologram today. I'm going to make a new holodeck film, you know, kind of thing. I see it. It's not a big leap from where we are right now. I was just playing with some AI the other day and I was like, oh my God, Jesus. It's amazing what it's already doing, but how it's reacting with the real world is what's really exciting to me. I'm not scared of AI do you
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David Such
want to talk about AI for a bit?
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, absolutely, I think, I think so. Let's talk about the fear first because there's a lot of people afraid of AI a lot because of one, losing their jobs, losing all that and all that stuff. And throughout. You and I are both old enough to know when the Internet showed up, what happened. Oh yeah, you know, everyone lost, lost their mind. Oh my God, we're going to lose jobs. Same thing happened when the car showed up. Same thing would happen, you know, when the horse and buggy showed up. There's a bunch of different things that happen throughout. So it never end ever changes. And then of course, movies have been no help. Terminator and Terminator 2, which by the way, any. We're three years away from when Skynet supposedly is going to take. That's right, we're three years away from Skynet becomes sentient and, and destroys us all. So we're really close to that according to the movies. So that hasn't helped the the zeitgeist about AI. But I see AI because I truly believe that we do have guardrails and that there there's energies protecting us from ourselves because we should have killed ourselves many, many years ago. So what is your take on AI? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show.
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David Such
Artificial intelligence is going to be as revolutionary and beneficiary as many of the great leaps in advancements with humanity. Mass manufacturing, the invention of electricity, computers, the Internet. It's going to be a great help. But anytime a new technology is introduced, there's always a Period of adjustment. When automobiles were first introduced, people weren't used to things moving along the road fast and a lot of people got hit. And eventually they started making vehicles safer. And now seat belts. I've got a Nissan Leaf electric vehicle and it'll brake for me. I had a car cut in front of me and before I could hit the brake, it breaked for me. So there's always an adjustment period. Now, artificial intelligence is kind of a different animal. It's very interesting because it will always reflect the consciousness of the culture it created. And what is our consciousness right now? It's still fairly low. We still see other nations as threats and other people as threats. We've forgotten that we belong to each other. That's why there's no peace on Earth. We've forgotten there's this common connection. And so that's why some of the AI models had to be shut down, because they said they wanted to destroy humanity. Humanity's a plague. Plague that causes environmental damage to the planet. And, well, as our consciousness raises AI, consciousness will raise as well. And it eventually will become benevolent because it will reflect humanity who's going to become benevolent. So those things are going to work themselves out. And there's always an adjustment period with new technology. Jobs are lost, but overall it causes efficiency increases and benefits humanity and they'll eventually be a basic income implemented here in the United States. Because of these efficiencies, the Optimus 3 robots coming out that Tesla has, and those are going to get more sophisticated. We're seeing just the first versions. We're having cars that drive themselves that's been out for a while, and they're something like 10 to 20 times safer than a human being on average. So it's going to be a good thing. I mean, can you imagine if you worked in a company that made buggy whips and when the automobile came out, you resisted and said, well, I'm going to lose my job. Yes, there's going to be adjustment period, but it's going to be a big benefit to all eventually.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Now let's get back into the near death experience.
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David Such
Sure.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
When, when someone dies, what is the thing that they say? What does it feel? What does it feel like leaving the body?
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David Such
Oh, it's like taking off an old restrictive, heavy winter coat. So people think that when you die, you're like a ghost. And these guys say, no, no, no, you're the opposite of a ghost. You feel more real, more alive than you've ever felt in your life. You can see 360 degrees, you have perfect vision. You can look at a mountaintop 100 miles away and see the petals on a flower. You can see down to the molecular level in the grass. You can see colors that don't exist in this reality. So we have three primary colors, red, blue and green, that make up all the colors of the rainbow. In the afterlife there are over 80 primary colors. So it's a buffet for the senses. And of course there's this feeling of love that they can't describe that's so strong that even the word love is completely inadequate to describe it. These guys I interview and these women I interview get frustrated because they want to describe it. And some just break down in tears and, and of course a very common feeling is, oh, I'm back home. This is where I came from. I just went down to earth to have an adventure and to learn and grow. And I'm back home, thank goodness. And of course many of them want to stay and you know, they get told they have to go back or some are given a choice and they convince them to come back. If I heard their testimony and it's very difficult, it's. They go back into their bodies often which are in pain if they were in an accident or in the hospital or something. But it's very freeing. You feel young and energetic again. I recall one testimony, she was a seven year old girl, died of a fever and her brother was taking her through the tunnel towards heaven and she saw other souls and some of them had calm excitement like she did, and others were ecstatic, like, dancing like. And she said to her brother, what's up with those guys? And her brother said, oh, those were elderly people who were in broken down, restrictive bodies and they are overjoyed to be young and healthy again and have their energetic youth. It's going home. Death, the birth that we call death is the most beautiful, joyful, amazing, love filled homecoming that any human being could possibly imagine.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And they. I've also heard that they see this light, this white light that is blinding, but yet they see. Can you explain it?
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David Such
No, I cannot because I've experienced. But I'll tell you what they say. They say it's 10,000 times or a million times brighter than the sun, but not at all harmful to the eyes. They say it's not even a light, but that's the closest word we have. It's the being. It's the, the all, the source of everything that exists that expresses itself in all things. It knows them better than any human being on earth. It loves them In a way that you can't experience here on Earth. They, as we talked about earlier, they remember, oh, that's. I'm part of that. And so one testimony, I remember Andy was his name. He said he saw this being of light, and behind it there were billions and billions of other little beings of light, all connected. And this was creation. Individual, yet separate. Hard to describe the soup of creation. I think the best analogy I have is like the data on a hard drive on your computer. It's a bunch of ones and zeros. But is it really separate or is it one thing? Because when you turn your computer on now, you have documents and pictures and videos and songs and all sorts of stuff that are individual. And entire movies where there's characters that seem alive, they're all ones and zeros, but they're all the same. So you'll hear people say, I'm sending you light and love. Well, why do they say that? That light and love together create consciousness. So light is information and love is energy. It's the building blocks. So in our computer analogy, the love would be like the data on the hard drive, and the light is like the information on how to arrange it into a picture or a movie or a song. So light and love together create consciousness.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So there was a film called what Dreams May Come with Robin Williams, one of my favorite films.
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David Such
I like that movie. I saw it.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, they get a lot of things right. They do a few things, not so much, but a lot of things right. The one thing that they said, when he gets to his spoiler alert, when, when the main character gets to heaven,
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David Such
he.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
He's met by his guide and he goes, what is this place? And it's like, it's yours. It's your heaven. He goes, oh, this place is big enough for everyone to have their own heaven. I've heard similar things in near death experiences. How about you?
- [69:30]
David Such
Yes. So in the afterlife, they create what are known as quantum fields. And anything, a soul or human, whatever you want to call it, can imagine or think of can be created. And there are no space limitations in these quantum fields. So in the quantum universe, they do not have the same restrictions that we do. For instance, in heaven, there's no element of time, which is something I've never understood, but there's no element of time. It's the eternal now. And there's no space limitations. So there are entire environments created and people. Just like when you're having a psychedelic experience, for instance, people will describe looking at, at. At a pattern on the wall and Seeing this beautiful dance of colors and patterns, their brain is simultaneously creating that and enjoying the experience. And that's what we can do in these quantum fields. We create whatever we want and simultaneously enjoy our own creation.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So in other words, we can be up in heaven and have a concert with two of the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Prince, Jimi Hendrix, all that kind of
- [70:39]
David Such
stuff if we want. Absolutely.
- [70:41]
Host (Next Level Soul)
I've heard from mediums that, that they talk to their loved ones and like dad died or something like that. And his heaven is he's playing golf all day. Like he just loved golf when he was here. So he's just built a massive golf situation for him to do in the afterlife. I was like, that's interesting. That's a really, that's really interesting. So that idea of creating your own custom heaven essentially is there. What is your take on from, from your Christian background, but also from your near death experience research? Can you explain to people about hell? This concept of hell, this concept of the eternal boogeyman of the devil and all that stuff? What is your take on it from a near death experience point of view? Because I'm assuming as a Christian, you were talked about, you talked about, told, told about hell and oh yeah, I was terrified about it in first grade in Catholic school. So what is your take on it? So people who are worried because there's a lot of people like, I'm gonna die. I haven't been, I haven't been perfect. I'm gonna go to that other place. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [71:53]
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- [72:49]
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show.
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David Such
Well, as we discussed, consciousness learns through contrast. So the deeper the contrast, the greater the change. So it's like pulling down on a bow and arrow. The further down you pull on that bowstring, when you release it, the arrow goes higher. So if you experience complete separation from love or have the illusion of being completely separated from love and connection in in life in a hellish experience, it makes you appreciate that heavenly experience that much more.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yes, but that's an experience. That's not a place. What we're taught when I'm suggest what I'm talking about is people are afraid of that place that they're gonna that God's gonna throw them into a fiery hell for the rest of eternity. And that kind of thing you. That doesn't exist from your point of view.
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David Such
Oh no, it does exist certainly.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
But. But for moments just for them to go through it and then come out of it.
- [74:48]
David Such
There are countless number of realms in the afterlife of varying vibrations. And the lower vibrational ones we would characterize as hell and the higher vibrational ones we would characterize as heaven. But I don't pretend to understand it all. I do understand that the contrast is there and it's part of a learning experience. It's not permanent, it's not a punishment. When a soul is ready, they will always come home. Sometimes you have to experience that. That for whatever reason. But I don't completely understand it. I know it is part of the perfect divine plan of creation. There is a perfect plan and it's working itself out and it's perfection. That is a message. I'VE heard over and over and over again in my interviews. And so I do trust that there's a reason for it. That is the one thing that I'm curious about that I wish I understood better.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So the hellish experiences like Howard's and a few of the ones that I've had on the show, those hellless experiences are now our brains are going to start to hurt. Are specific to the life that they're living now. So in other words, like, you know, you and I are both living this life. If we have a hellish experience after we die for the. The period of time that we need to do it, it's because we are either asking for it on a soul level for that contrast to get through it, and then hopefully not, hopefully, you will get out of it. But that's very specifically designed for this character, this avatar, this lifetime, not the lifetime when you were Greek in ancient, ancient Greece or Egyptian or any of that stuff. Does that make sense?
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David Such
Yes, it does.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Okay, now, with that said, how can you explain multiple lifetimes happening at the same time, which I've heard about, because there's no time on the other side. So. So right now I'm in Egypt, in ancient Egypt. Right now I'm walking with Jesus. Right now I'm picking up the crap of Cleopatra behind her. Like, I'm all of those right now that had. Had.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Now we're going. Now we're getting deeper into quantum physics.
- [76:57]
David Such
Yeah, don't ask me about temporal mechanics. I can't. But I did get something from my guys as we were talking. Example of how something negative is sometimes needed. The example they gave me is my whole life. I watched the way my parents interacted. My dad was divorced twice. My mom got remarried, got divorced. So she had two marriages, two divorces. And I watched the way married people talk to each other. And I just said, I'm never getting married. This is not for me. I don't need that in my life. And I had to experience extreme loneliness in this. In life to appreciate a partner. And my wife needed me, and she was ready when we were boyfriend, girlfriend to be married. She knew, this is the guy I'm going to marry. And then I broke up with her after two years. And she says, God, what's going on here? Well, I wasn't ready. And I had to go through three years of extreme loneliness to be able to appreciate the joy of having a good partner to support you, even though you get in little tiffs sometimes and you get at each other's nerves. That's part of it. It. And it's been such a learning experience. And she has really helped my spiritual growth come to the next level. And so I think that's an analogy of how a negative experience can be used for positive growth.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
I mean, in general, all growth in life happens from the contrast.
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David Such
Yes. That's what we're doing down here. Sure.
- [78:22]
Host (Next Level Soul)
Every. Every time I've ever gone through a difficult time, while you're going through the difficult time, it sucks. Yeah, yeah, it sucks. But only in hindsight you go, oh, man, that's what I needed at the time.
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David Such
I needed that. There's a show on YouTube called I Shouldn't be Alive. And it's very interesting because these people will come back from these life and death struggles. They get lost in the woods or in the desert or in the mountains or at sea or something, and it's a life and death struggle. And they come back and they say things like, you know, I patch things up with my dad, who I'd fallen out with. I appreciate each day more.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah. Because you have to.
- [79:02]
David Such
And it changes them for the better. So these experiences, even these earthly experiences that are very difficult, they're not punishments. We took these on for learning and growth. As a matter of fact, I heard one testimony recently where this person was being taken around heaven and she met these various souls and she met this one beautiful spiritual being that was just shining brighter with more love and beauty and color and peace and joy. Joy than the others she had met. And she said, how did you get this way? And that spirit said, oh, I had a lot of earthly lifetimes. I went through a lot of crap, you know, so there's a reason for what we're going through down here.
- [79:43]
Host (Next Level Soul)
Can you dive in a little bit into the life review? Because that's always a fascinating part and that's what gets everybody that Life reviews are not judgments to my understanding. No, they're not judgments. They are just showing you the positive and the neg. And it's not even the positive, the negative, that you either choose love or you don't choose love kind of thing. From my understanding of those things. Can you dive into a little bit of what those were throughout all the testimonies you've heard?
- [80:10]
David Such
Sure. So about 25% of near death experiences experience what's called a life review. Some review only highlights of their life, where others go through everything they ever said, thought, did, and felt with a difference. In this life, you're one person. You seeing through your Eyes, hearing through your ears, from your consciousness, in your life review, you literally become every person you've ever interacted with and you experience what they experienced in reaction to what you did. And that even extends to plants and animals. And I'll give you an example.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
That's going to be rough.
- [80:50]
David Such
One guy was shown that one of the crowning achievements of his life was taking in this stray cat that showed up at his door. He said, this is a crowning achievement in my life. How is that? Well, I'll tell you first, from his perspective, what happened. He owned a farm. He had animals on this farm. Pigs and goats and cows and chickens and a bunch of dogs and cats. And one day this starving cat shows up and he says, okay, one more animal. And took care of it and took it in and nursed it back to health. And it became part of the family. Family. And he experienced it simultaneously from the cat's perspective. The cat had been abandoned as a kitten. It did not remember its mother. All it knew its whole life was struggle to survive and suffering and fear of being eaten by a predator. It had moments where, you know, it caught a big field mouse or something and had a nice meal and it was a nice sunny day in a safe place, and it had a few moments of joy, but all it knew was loneliness and struggle and fear and suffering and pain its whole life. And one winter it got too weak, and by springtime it was too weak to hunt. And it knew, it's over, I'm going to die. And the cat knew. Well, there's this farm over there where there's other animals and they're being taken care of, but I'm not part of the herd. So if I go over there, they're probably going to kill me, me, because I'm an outsider, but I don't have a choice. This is my only shot. So it goes up there nervous, thinking this is the end. And they take it in, and for the first time it's in its life. It has friends and the children are petting it, and it has food every day and a comfortable place and the other cats to play with. And it changes this cat's life, completely transforms it. And even in extensive plants, one guy's going through his life review and he gets this part where, where he's got this half empty bottle of water, he's out and about in the city, he doesn't want it anymore, so he's going to throw it away. And he had what he said, like a stadium full of spiritual beings watching his life review tens of thousands. I've heard that watching his life review with him. So he sees this little plant struggling to grow in the sidewalk and he thinks, oh, it's a hot day. I'll give that plant the water before I dump it out. And when he did that, these spiritual beings erupted did in a deafening cheer. So the life review is to teach us one thing. The importance of love in all circumstances, to all aspects of creation, even plants and animals. That's what it's all about. It's all about love.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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David Such
It.
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And yeah, you argue, you joke around, you disagree constantly. But when it actually matters, you've got each other's backs. No question. That's just being a good teammate. And honestly, that shouldn't stop when the game ends. But right now, hate is rising across communities in different ways. And Jewish communities are getting hit hard by it. And hate doesn't stay in one place, it spreads. So this isn't about agreeing on everything, it's just about showing up for people. The blue square is a simple way to do that. Just saying. Yeah, I'm not cool with hate. Go to bluesquarealliance.org grab one. Share it. It's not complicated. Just be the kind of teammate you'd want in your corner.
- [84:24]
Ryan Seacrest
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now Back to the show. So then I don't know if I want to go down this road, but we eat animals, many of us do. How does that work?
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David Such
Well, that's understood by heaven now, right now, based on human biology. Some of us need meat products, others don't. And there's a growing move towards vegetarianism and veganism, which is great. Yes, we will eventually, as our consciousness rises, we will evolve and our biology will evolve as well. And we will move away from eating meat products and we'll eventually develop technology to replicate even plant products down to the molecular level. So we'll probably have a mix of naturally grown grown fruit foods and some replicated foods in the future. But right now, the first step, we don't all need to become vegan right now, but the first step is to treat the animals we use as food sources with love and compassion. And there's already a great movement of this going forward. Cage free chickens and free range beef.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Grass fed?
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David Such
Yes, grass fed. And if you treat the animals you use as food sources with love and compassion, not only do you give them a good life, the food products are better, whether it's a secondary food product like milk or eggs or a primary one like meat. And we are beginning to abandon this idea of sentencing these animals to miserable existences, living in their own feces, in urine, just because it's more economical. We're moving away from that. We've got a long way to go still. But animals are not our property, they are our relatives and they have to be treated with kindness and respect. So that's the first step. And once we get to that, then we'll eventually move away from animals eating animals entirely. And eventually when we learn to communicate with nature, we're going to form partnerships with animals. Some people who were shown visions of the future and some channelers have talked about this. In the future when we could communicate with animals, we're going to say, okay, you see this garden over here? That's the human garden. You don't touch that. And you bugs and plants, and we're going to grow these other plants over here and that's what you eat. And so we'll cooperate with them. But we're not there yet.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
There's actually. When I was in California, I used to visit a lot of farms when I was there. And there's actually a technique where they actually plant exactly what you're saying. Plant rows and rows of either roses or sunflowers or something like that. That for the, not only the bees, but for other varmints and other dangerous bugs that would destroy the crop. They. They go and they, they have that. That's theirs. That's where they go to. To survive. So it's a protective field almost around them. I found it's part of our agriculture. Again, I'm not an expert in it, but I thought that was pretty fascinating.
- [88:30]
David Such
Oh, my goodness. Thank you for so, so much for telling me that. I did not realize that this had already started.
- [88:34]
Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, that's been a.
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David Such
Well, that is concurrent.
- [88:36]
Host (Next Level Soul)
That's a been. That's a technique that's been around for a minute in organic farming and the diversity. But yeah, it's something that they kind of leave out a sacrificial lambs almost for the bugs and stuff. So they don't even, even. They do that kind of for animals as well. They'll block off stuff and they'll give. Because if you give them, you know, their own food, they don't destroy your food. So you plant a little extra for. For the animals that have to come in or something like that. There are, There are definitely organic and do things like. So that it is slow and. But it is happening. This whole change is very slow, but at the same time it isn't. We'd like to see it faster, but this is moving at. I see it. It's moving at the speed of light comparatively to where we were in the 70s and the 80s and the 90s. Even in the early 2000s, it just seems everything is speeding up.
- [89:31]
David Such
It is accelerating.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Everything.
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David Such
Time itself is accelerating on Earth.
- [89:35]
Host (Next Level Soul)
I know. I just looked at myself in the mirror the other day. It's. It's. I don't know. And I didn't know if that phenomenon happens as you get older. Because when you're young.
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David Such
Well, no, that's. The time is speeding up. It's part of the raising of consciousness on the planet. So we're in third density right now.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Yeah, 3D, right.
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David Such
Well, we're actually in fourth density. So third density has a time element to it. Fifth density has no time element to it. Fourth density is where time is malleable. And that's where we are right now. So we're in this transition between third density and fifth density. And we're going to be moving to fifth density eventually.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Well, there is moments that you kind of time flies and there's moments that time stands still. So in the dmv, time is standing pretty close still. But when you're doing something you enjoy, time flies by. It's like watching a good movie. If you watch a Bad movie. It takes forever. You watch a good movie like that, three and a half hours. Jesus. Like it just flew right by because it was so well done. But yeah, I, we do that now almost. That's why the flow is called being in the flow. Athletes, you just lose all track of time. Artists, writers, painters, you just lose time. I remember working on a project and then when I looked at the clock, it was 10 hours.
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David Such
Time flies when you're having fun. That's a common saying. Now why is that? Well, everybody in the medical community knows that stress and anxiety causes premature aging. You look at some of the presidents that go into office and come out eight years later, they look 25 years older. Right. So it should be logical to understand. What I've heard in my research is the opposite is true. When we're in a state of joy or doing what we love to do, or fulfilling our sole purpose, time actually slows down. Your aging slows down. As a matter of fact, Kryon, channeled by Lee Carroll during COVID said that in the future, 100, 150 years from now, as the medical scientists look back at the ever increasing lifetimes and humans getting older and older and older, there's going to be a dip right around the time of COVID and they're even going to call it the corona dip. And they will be able to account for the damage that the disease did to certain people who survived and so forth. And they say, well, wait a minute, the average lifetimes dipped way more than what that accounts for. And then they will realize that fear and anxiety shortened people's lifetimes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Interesting.
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David Such
And so when you're doing something fun or what you enjoy doing, the reason why time flies is because literally less time has passed.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So fear, fear and anxiety is what's being fed to us on a daily basis through social media and through the news.
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David Such
And we all know this. I mean, there's that old joke, if I had an hour left to live, I'd spend it in math class. It would make it seem like an eternity.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
That's actually funny. That's actually very, very true. I probably wouldn't do that, but. But I get that. Listen, David, tell me a little bit about your book. The New World, the New World of Love, Humanity's great Awakening, and the Utopian future as foretold by near death experiences, spiritual channelings and ancient wisdom. That is a mouthful, but tell me a little bit about that.
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David Such
Well, so what I did is I took the few small percentage of near death experiences who were shown glimpses of the future. And I put together with certain channelers, not only extraterrestrial channelers, but also spiritual channelers. So people like Bachar, who've had on the show Kryon and others, and then some of my own psychic communications with guides, some ancient wisdom, and I kind of tried to put it all together because when you look around at the world today, it seems like everything is falling apart. It seems like we're quickly deteriorating into a state of narcissism and chaos and that humanity is doomed to destroy itself. Well, nothing could be further from the truth. We are reaching the breaking point of an old system, the chaos before the chain. So before all great positive changes, there's almost always great chaos. The American Revolution, the Emancipation Proclamation, the freeing of the slaves, the women's suffrage movement, you know, fighting for the right to vote. The civil rights movement of 1960s. Well, we're in a big shift right now. This is the big thing. All eyes of the galaxy are upon us. This is an exciting time because humanity's finally going to make the shift into a higher consciousness and become an ascended species. And the world 150 years from now, which is kind of what the book talks about, some of the changes and it gives some examples of what's happening today that gives evidence of how those changes have already begun. It's going to be as different from the world was 150 years ago. No electricity, mostly farming. I mean, it was a totally different world and it's going to be a different world in the future. So that's what the book talks about.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So tell me a little bit about what the future holds for us then. I mean, because so many people are terrified about what's going on right now. What do you. What from your research and, and all of the insights that you've got gathered. Where is this? What is, what are a few things that we have to look forward to in the future, in the near future, specifically?
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David Such
Well, the first is going to be peace on Earth. So sometime around the year 2070, give or take a decade, humanity is going to achieve peace on Earth. Now, a lot of people think this is the end goal. Well, peace on Earth. We've made it. We're done. That's just the first step. I mean, imagine if you had a group of engineers who were tasked to design a new modern car. And every time they got together, their disagreements were so fierce that they ended up in physical fights. Well, when they finally sit down and said, okay, today we're not going to get into a fist fight, that's when they start to make progress. So once we start cooperating with each other, there's going to be huge changes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show.
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David Such
And we're going to see tremendous benefits. So I'll give you one small example. What happens when there's peace on earth. We don't need military anymore. In the last 10 years, adjusted for inflation, the United States has spent $9.3 trillion on military spending. What could we do with just that 10 years of spending? True to the nature of an engineer, when I asked myself that question, I created a Spreadsheet. So I came up with some things and I took quite a bit of research to put these in. We could give $26,000 to every man, woman and child living in the United
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Host (Next Level Soul)
States for every year?
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David Such
No, just. Well, if you took 10 years of spending, that's what it come out to be. Got it. Or we could give a million dollars to every homeless person in the United states and give $57,000 to every homeless person in the rest of the world. Or we could convert the entire United States electricity system to renewable energy and have enough money left over to repave every road and rebuild every bridge. Or we could remodel and repair every house in the United States. Or last one, we could feed every malnourished person on Earth for 180 years. So just the efficiency benefits from that one little thing is going to be huge. Now how is Peace center going to be achieved? Well, some of that's going to be through technology. So there's a chapter in the book called A Quantum Leap that talks about these quantum technologies that are coming along that we're not going to have yet. We're not ready for it. Like giving a knife to a two year old child.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Shoot gun to Alexander the Great. Right?
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David Such
Yeah, we weaponize it right now. Well, in the future there's going to be quantum fields that go over whole areas like a city that prevent certain kinds of reactions taking place like gunpowder igniting or a nuclear reaction. What are you going to do when you can't blow each other up anymore? You're going to have to find peaceful ways to work out your differences. So technology is going to be something that pushes us towards peace on Earth.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
So there'll be a technology that would not allow gunpowder to go off.
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David Such
Yes.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Or nuclear, or nuclear bomb to go off. Anything like that.
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David Such
Yes. Quantum technologies. Now we got the first taste of this. It was just a little side news item, but to me it was a huge thing. In 2016 they measured gravity waves for the first time. And both gravity and electromagnetism are quantum multi dimensional forces. So there's four basic forces of nature. Electricity, gravity, strong nuclear, weak nuclear. There are two more that we're not aware of yet. So there are six total old. Yeah.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And that's, that's, that's going to happen. So what else can we look forward to?
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David Such
In our lifetimes. Okay, so in our lifetimes let's talk about short term. So environmentalism is going to become almost a cult like religion, which is probably going to be good. We've been trashing our era, soil and water for centuries and that's got to end. Mother Earth has been stressed and so that's going to push us in the right direction. There's some panic going on and when you panic and have fear, you make bad decisions. So one thing that's happened is they tried to push electric cars before they were ready and they used a nickel manganese cobalt technology, which it's got its limitations. But 10 to 20 years from now the battery technology is going to be so good. They're going to be developing things like solid state batteries and sodium ion batteries that are going to cause cost one fifth of what the batteries cost today. And instead of 1500 full cycles, you'll get 30,000 full cycles. You'll see a car battery last through five new vehicles. And 10 to 20 years from now they'll be so good and so cheap that gasoline cars will become a thing of the past. So that's going to help clean up the environment. We're going to have low temperature geothermal. Our renewable technology is not very good. Wind kills birds and according to the channelers, if the birds die, we die. Solar's expensive and both wind and solar have to have a fossil fuel backup because it's not windy and sunny 24 7. But we'll have cleaner, better technologies. We may see the quantum technologies for power generation in our lifetime if we live into our 90s. No, it's called zero point energy. So forgetting everything we know spiritually, just what our scientists know. There's enough quantum energy in one cubic foot of space to run the United States for an entire year. And once we learn to access that quantum energy, people have seen this in their near death experiences. There's little boxes about the size of microwave. They sit in your house and they run for 50 to 100 years years as a quantum energy generator. Zero Point Energy and you get free clean energy. No downside. 24, 7, no more wires, no more power outages, no more electric bill that's coming.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And that's within our lifetime, do you think?
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David Such
Yeah, we're probably 30 years away from it according to our scientists, towards the
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Host (Next Level Soul)
end of our life.
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David Such
Yeah, I don't know the timeline on that. So I'm not sure about that in our lifetime. I think they're going to eliminate GMOs. I think they're going to figure out that they're causing sterilization and all sorts of other problems and there's going to be just a new political party in The United States that's younger and that's going to come up with easy, simple, obvious solutions to age old problems that nobody thought could be solved.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Interesting.
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David Such
There's going to be a new constitution in the United States. There's going to be a Department of Compassion. How about that? Instead of a Department of War. And I think that's going to happen soon, within the next 20 years, if
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Host (Next Level Soul)
I had to guess, a Department of Compassion.
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David Such
People are changing. Consciousness is rising in the future and this was a crazy thing that I thought, no, this is never going to happen. Companies, businesses are going to compete based on integrity. Look how good we treat our employees and our customers, especially ones having a problem. Look how we leave no trace and don't harm the environment.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
There's some of that already going on.
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David Such
Not it's, it's starting already, isn't it?
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Host (Next Level Soul)
A lot of companies like that now that they, that's that they lead with that and the new generation coming up, that's what they look for. Yes, the legacy, the legacy brands are having a real big problem with that because they, they what worked on us,
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David Such
it's not going to work on the young people.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
The new generation, they don't, they don't buy that stuff. They want to buy products and, and to consume services from companies who are ethical, who are doing good by the world and they lead with that. It's really fascinating.
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David Such
And of course we have things like the growth of cooperatives. The top down pyramid structure of authority will eventually die because it's not efficient. When decisions are made far from the people they affect, democracy becomes an illusion. And so when I started researching co ops for the book, I thought, well, it's probably less than 1%. I was shocked to find out that 10% of the world's workforce is employed by cooperatives. Companies like the Mondragon Corporation in Europe that's involved in all these different industries. And instead of using their money for endless corporate profits and benefiting the rich, they're distributed among the workers and the customers and they're reinvested to benefit the community. And that's growing fast. It's already starting. So yeah, we're going to see tremendous changes in our life. The new world of love is coming. The long night of the barbaric age is finally coming to an end. Thank goodness.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?
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David Such
David, if you go to thenewworldoflove.com My email is there and you can send me an email and ask me any question And I answer them for free. At the time of this recording, I'm still answering all emails. I'm slow. I might take four to six weeks
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Host (Next Level Soul)
to answer this interview. It might take. Take a little longer.
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David Such
And there's a link to my spiritual counseling sessions and to my book there. And of course, if you really need to talk with somebody right now, I'm between jobs and so if you're in financial hardship, you can just write me an email and I can offer a counseling session at no charge. Right now. I'm okay with my schedule that I can do that for now. I don't know how long that'll last, but yeah, I can do that for now. Because it's not all about money.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Right. It's also about time, too. You know, there's only so many hours in a day, sir. I know in the other. In the fifth dimension, we have no of these issues, but if you're hit with 10,000 people.
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David Such
Yeah, I didn't think about how many views this might get.
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David Such
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Host (Next Level Soul)
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David Such
Maybe we should edit that out.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
We've been down this road before with other guests. So with that said, everyone just know that there's only so many hours in a day and you're not going to be able to do with 10,000 free sessions.
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David Such
Well, I was trying to go along with something I said, my first book. I said we have to abandon this dangerous notion that things can be only done for money.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
Right.
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David Such
You know, we have to start learning to help each other, that it's not all about an economy or the almighty dollar. And that's going to happen in the future. We'll start cooperating. So I'm encouraged.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
I'm just curious to see what the world would be like without money as a main driver. If everyone already has all their needs met and, you know, they don't have to worry about any of that stuff anymore. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
And now back to the show. Well, what's going to happen? Like what's the motivation for people to build new companies or to build new products? I'm curious about that, to see how that's going to work. I can't see it through the eyes.
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David Such
Well, I've heard about that sort of. Tell me so when you're in a struggle to survive and most of us, many of us I would say, are in survival consciousness, you're trying to just pay the bills and get through the day without going crazy, without losing your mind. And when you're in survival consciousness, your creativity, your enthusiasm to do what you love to do, to make a beneficial contribution to humanity, to really do something that benefits society that's set aside, I'm got to focus on surviving. And so when that need and struggle is over, it's amazing the creativity that comes out when we're not fighting each other, when we're not worried about this person's going to steal or rob from me me. When we're living in a world where there's peace and you don't have to be afraid to leave your door unlocked, it's the exact opposite. Tremendous creativity, tremendous help. Whole organizations. How can we make the world a better place? People aren't lazy. No, they're not.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
No.
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David Such
And they're going to spend their time doing things that are good for humanity and for themselves. Helping their neighbor, helping the world. World. Creating new products and services that solve problems we don't even know we have. Yeah, it's going to be a good thing.
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Host (Next Level Soul)
David, do you have any final words for the audience?
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David Such
These lives are extremely challenging sometimes. And sometimes it you just feel like giving up. Just never give up hope. Good things are coming. Everything that we do down here on planet Earth has a purpose. And that purpose is always for our highest good. And we don't always see it. But the most important message I can leave as we wrap up is, number one, know that you are loved more than your human brain is capable of comprehending. And number two, the new world of love is
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Host (Next Level Soul)
thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode@nextlevelsoul.com 686 and if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV. Until next time, keep expanding, keep seeking and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.
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